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1669.1 | so far it's only a rumor | NOVA::FISHER | Rdb/VMS Dinosaur | Tue Nov 12 1991 03:56 | 4 |
| The rumor broke here sometime midday. Microsoft's stock climbed 2+ pts
on the rumor.
ed
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1669.2 | From UK Livewire (VTX information for employees) | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Hari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari Hari | Tue Nov 12 1991 05:24 | 24 |
| Hmmm - this says "broad strategy", nothing about a merger.
Could be nothing more than the alliance we had some time ago with
that small computer manufacturer - Apple. (Y'know, the one that produced
hardly anything).
Maybe we are climbing into bed with them with Windows NT?
Peter.
digital 12-Nov-91 LIVE WIRE
DIGITAL NEWS
MICROSOFT SETS ALLIANCE WITH DIGITAL
MICROSOFT CORP., indicated that it planned to join with Digital
Equipment Corp. in a broad strategy to combine software applications
with networking. The two companies said they had set announcements
over the next week.
International Herald Tribune. 12th November 1991
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1669.3 | Wait till 11/18/91 | ODIXIE::SILVERS | David Silvers, Office Pardner... | Tue Nov 12 1991 07:56 | 2 |
| We have some announcements coming 11/18 in the office space - wait
till then....
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1669.4 | On last night's news | LEDDEV::GAUDET | Because the Earth is 2/3 water | Tue Nov 12 1991 11:11 | 8 |
| Boston TV station Ch. 5 (WCVB) reported this in their 6:00 p.m. news
segment last night (Monday, 11/11/91).
They made a point to mention that Microsoft chose to do business with
Digital because IBM now has an agreement with Apple. No other details
were given.
...Roger...
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1669.5 | New Wave business | TPSYS::SOBECKY | Still searchin' for the savant.. | Tue Nov 12 1991 12:11 | 5 |
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I don't think it is a "merge" of the two companies, merely a
business partnership. It's the new way of doing business.
John
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1669.6 | so who are we taking to the Prom? | TOOK::DMCLURE | Did Da Vinci move into management? | Tue Nov 12 1991 13:01 | 10 |
| re: .5,
> I don't think it is a "merge" of the two companies, merely a
> business partnership. It's the new way of doing business.
This is all starting to remind me of junior high school romances.
Have you heard? Ever since Apple broke up with DEC and started going
steady with IBM, now it looks like DEC and Microsoft may be going steady...
-davo
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1669.7 | | AUSSIE::BELL | Charitas Patiens est | Wed Nov 13 1991 01:56 | 3 |
| It now looks like Radio Australia misunderstood the 18/11 announcement gossip.
Peter.
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1669.8 | | AUSSIE::BELL | Charitas Patiens est | Wed Nov 13 1991 01:56 | 3 |
| It now looks like Radio Australia misunderstood the 18/11 announcement gossip.
Peter.
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1669.9 | | SSDEVO::EGGERS | Anybody can fly with an engine. | Wed Nov 13 1991 11:44 | 1 |
| The third try is a charm.
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1669.10 | Now it's Digital and Apple.. | TPSYS::SOBECKY | Still searchin' for the savant.. | Wed Nov 13 1991 11:55 | 3 |
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Also, in today's Globe, Digital and Apple plan to sell each other's
computers in Europe. Another "business partnership" deal.
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1669.11 | | BUNYIP::QUODLING | Mup - mup - mup - mup - mup - mup - mup | Wed Nov 13 1991 13:03 | 5 |
| Apple selling DEC's computers. I'll believe that when I see, it. Most
of the co-operative efforts have been a little one-sided, methinks.
q
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1669.12 | | FRETZ::HEISER | I don't feel tardy | Wed Nov 13 1991 18:25 | 9 |
| I think we made a mistake by letting Apple team up with IBM (just mho).
Re: DEC selling Apples
Does that mean we can get *REAL* employee discounts now? Hopefully not
like the last attempt by the Employee Purchase program where you could
beat their deals at Computerland.
Mike
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1669.13 | re .12 -- Now *that's* indeed the question of the hour!! | RDVAX::KALIKOW | Partially Sage, and Rarely On Time | Thu Nov 14 1991 08:07 | 1 |
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1669.14 | Define 'REAL'... | KITVAX::STODDARD | Just toolin' around... | Thu Nov 14 1991 10:16 | 12 |
| RE .12
SET MODE CYNICAL
We don't get 'real' employee discounts on our own systems! Why should
we do any better with Apple's stuff?
SET MODE NONCYNICAL
Well, we can always hope...
Have a GREAT day!
Pete
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1669.15 | | ALIEN::MCCULLEY | RSX Pro | Thu Nov 14 1991 12:02 | 3 |
| .14> We don't get 'real' employee discounts on our own systems!
Sure we do. We get "real" employee discounts on unreal system prices.
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1669.16 | Digital/Microsoft elsewhere | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Truth, Justice, and Flames | Thu Nov 14 1991 16:13 | 3 |
| To end the specualation and plain silliness regarding Digital and
Microsoft I have posted the press release in NODEMO::MARKETING
as note 1673.6. It's a marketing aggreement.
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1669.17 | And for product details... | JOHNPC::BOEBINGER | John Boebinger | Sat Nov 16 1991 13:46 | 5 |
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Also, information concerning the underlying DEC product sets in support
of this agreement can be found in the ABBOTT::WINDOWS_OFFICE notes file.
john boebinger, TeamLinks engineering manager
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1669.18 | I still believe.. | EJOVAX::JFARLEY | | Sat Nov 16 1991 16:02 | 2 |
| I still believe Mitsubishi is secretly buying us out one stock at a
time, but that is another story and another topic.
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1669.19 | we'll have plenty of warning | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Sun Nov 17 1991 21:04 | 8 |
| > I still believe Mitsubishi is secretly buying us out one stock at a
> time, but that is another story and another topic.
Almost anything is possible. However, by law a company must reveal
ownership information in an other company when that ownership reaches
some amount. 5 or 10% I believe.
Alfred
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1669.20 | question on how to prevent being sold | STAR::ABBASI | | Sun Nov 17 1991 23:24 | 5 |
| If another company wants to buy DEC, can we the employess buy all the
stocks befor and prevent that compnay from bying us?
/nasser
p.s. i got C- in my economics class, so be easy on me.
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1669.21 | | MU::PORTER | bah, humbug | Mon Nov 18 1991 01:22 | 2 |
| If another company wants to buy DEC, and they're offering
a good price for stock, I'm selling!
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1669.22 | | SOLVIT::ALLEN_R | Get these mutts away from me | Mon Nov 18 1991 07:29 | 9 |
| >If another company wants to buy DEC, can we the employess buy all the
>stocks befor and prevent that compnay from bying us?
at 1000 shares per employee it would just about cover all that are not
currently owned. But all we would have to do is own the majority and
vote them to control the company.
There's about 120mil shares outstanding. And employees own a little over
10% now.
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1669.23 | A little vicious circle | PULPO::BELDIN_R | Pull us together, not apart | Mon Nov 18 1991 08:30 | 10 |
| re .20-.22
It all fits. We are our own best customer - Digital buys more of its
equipment than any one else. Our employees comprise the biggest
collection of Digital users in the world. Why shouldn't we also run this
company?
:-)
Dick
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1669.24 | | REGENT::POWERS | | Mon Nov 18 1991 09:13 | 14 |
| >If another company wants to buy DEC, can we the employess buy all the
>stocks befor and prevent that compnay from bying us?
It's an open market. Buy all you want, and/or lobby your co-workers
to do the same.
Do you want the effort to be organized? Form a holding company and sell
stock in it. Then use the money raised to buy DEC stock.
The alternative, as the previous reply indicated, is that large numbers
of employees will SELL their stock in the face of a favorable take-over bid.
Personal profit wins.
- tom]
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1669.25 | No way, Jose | BAHTAT::HILTON | How's it going royal ugly dudes? | Wed Nov 27 1991 07:34 | 4 |
| US Government/law would not allow a japanese company to take over Digital
misquoted from a talk by Jack Smith
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1669.26 | Shareholders are the owners | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Honey, I iconified the kids | Wed Nov 27 1991 08:17 | 15 |
| There are a number of ways in which a Japanese industrial conglomerate
could have influence over Digital indistinguishable from owning
Digital without "owning" Digital.
The way other companies in which the CEO thought were "unbuyable" by
the Japanese were bought were by dividing the company into two or more
companies, only one of which had a government/military supplier role.
The other company or companies were then available to the highest
bidder, in many cases, the highest bidders were Japanese.
And of course, why should the shareholders of Digital be restricted as
to whom they can sell their shares to? If the United States government
wants to stop me from selling my shares to a Japanese corporation, they
can buy the shares themselves.
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1669.27 | | RANGER::MINOW | The best lack all conviction, while the worst | Fri Nov 29 1991 19:33 | 7 |
| re: .25:
US Government/law would not allow a japanese company to take over Digital
It wouldn't let Ollie North ship arms to the Contra's, either. I.e., I
am not sleeping easier tonight.
Martin.
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