Conference 7.286::digital

.0>I am planning on enrolling into a career related course. The course would
.0>be very relevant to the work and direction that my group is taking. My
.0>manager is enthusiastic about this coursework. I would take the course in
.0>the Fall semester. It would be the right thing to do if I am staying in
.0>the group.

Suggest that DEC directly pre-pay the educational institution for the
course. That way if you only do half of the course it is an issue between
DEC and the other folkes- you are left out of the loop.

This probably won't fly since it isn't a 'normal' procedure.

Lee

    The Orangebook Section 4.13 says...
    
    
    "When an employee leaves Digital, managers are responsible for    
    indicating on the Termination Information Form if there are any  
    unsettled tuition payments."
    
    Hope this helps....
    
    Mark
    

    This was along time ago but:
    
    In the early 70's while working for General Electric I started on an
    evening business graduate degree program at Boston University, normally
    a four year program. During the time I was going to B.U., GE
    strategically planned the department where I was working out of
    existence. In looking for a new job, one of my terms and conditions was
    that my new employer would continue paying for my studies. Analog
    Devices, who hired me, agreed to do this. After a year of a job doing
    telephone sales support, Digital recruited me and agreed to the same
    conditions. So my MBA (dreaded word) was paid for by three different
    employers.

    
    Hold off on the course, especially since it won't help you
    anyway else (like an MBA would). EDS did and still does require
    reimbursement for training or a 2 year commitme after the
    training is completed.
    
    Good Luck,
    
    Joan

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    If an employee is laid-off and has already been approved and
    received payment for external courses (MBA Program) for Fall
    semester.... 

    o Does this constitute a "contractual" obligation by the company
      that CANNOT be rescinded upon involontary termination 

    o Or will the terminated employee have to withdraw from these course and 
      refund the tuition to DEC or

    o Or will the tuition be deducted from severance payments

    
    
      I don't believe it would constitute a contract,  in that 
    	DEC recieves nothing in return for your taking the course.
    
      It would, however seem to constitute a good case for "Promissory
    Estoppel".  I'm not a lawyer,   but under some circumstances,
    if one party makes a promise which induces  another party to
    act detrimentally,  the first party can be legally estopped
    from renegging on the promise.  (In short,  they can be forced
    to perform.)
    
      Before coming to DEC,  I worked summers at a small company 
    which went from 400 people to 40 in about 3 years.  It was
    common practice for them to honor tuition reimbursements 
    layed off employees,  and they weren't known for their
    generosity...
    
    
    						-al
    

    
    Have things changed since the last time I used Tuition Refund benefit
    but at that time you couldn't get the money up-front. You had to show
    proof of passing the course and the bill after the course was over to
    get the reimbursement.
    
    -Ray
    

    Nowadays the easiest way is to pay yourself, then request a tuition
    advance. Show them the receipt, get your money back, and then 
    turn in your grades to show you've completed the course. They
    then file the paperwork. 

If you don't have the money to pay for the course out of you pocket,  you 
don't need to.  Just fill out on Application For Education and Training 
form.  Submit to your manager and personnel.  When it's signed off you 
can have petty cash write a check out to you/the school.  Just endorce
your name on the back and give to the school.

Debbi

    
    It's my understanding that if you do not finish the class while
    still an employee you will have to pay back digital. This happened
    to someone who was tapped for tfso 2 or 3 here in cxo.