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1192.1 | Further away from the Mill ... | VIRGO::BRAUER | | Wed Sep 19 1990 13:18 | 39 |
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RE the base NOTE:
> When change is rapid, and we're approaching many problems in a
> non-traditional fashion, it is easy to generate confusion,
> anxiety, and miss the big picture. I want to avoid this problem
> by improving the flow of communications.
> I've asked the Corporate Employee Communications group to
> orchestrate a program, using all the vehicles we have available,
> including Digital Video Network (DVN) reports, Digital This Week
> (DTW), Live-Wire, and VTX to ensure all employees have a solid
> understanding of our plans.
> We'll initiate this increased level of communications with a DVN
> broadcast on Friday, September 28th ...
While welcoming an opportunity to ask the hard questions
- and hopefully get some real answers - this memo seems to reveal
a "Greater Maynard" view of the Digital world:
- DVN sites are a long journey for many field folk - and we're trying
to reduce the travel budget.
- DTW is a local vehicle.
Digital News is the US-wide vehicle, and it has a questions and answers bit.
- Live-Wire and VTX (isn't Live-Wire just an info-base on VTX?) gets to a lot
of people, but not everybody monitors them (it).
Wouldn't a broadcast message from system managers get to more people?
Don't virus warnings, and the like, get distributed in this fashion?
How did Jack expect us all to hear about this broadcast ... ?
When was Jack Smith last in a field office?
From an "isolated corporate site".
Martin
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1192.2 | looks like a serious intent to involve everyone | CVG::THOMPSON | Aut vincere aut mori | Wed Sep 19 1990 14:02 | 15 |
| I expect that Jack Smith expects people to hear about this show
via a lot of forwarded mail messages as well as VTX. I assume it
will show up in LIVEWIRE (yes that's a VTX infobase) soon if it's
not already there.
To me the memo shows an awareness that people are communicating at
low levels (ie you and me). It also shows a willingness to use the
technology we have to create some communication up and down the line.
By passing the middle management filters both ways. This is good.
I wish the memo also indicated an intent to use Notes as well. We could
really get some two way communication going that way. Even if
management read in Notes and replied in VTX that would be a start.
Alfred
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1192.3 | | SDEVAX::THACKERAY | | Wed Sep 19 1990 14:28 | 10 |
| I suspect that Jack Smith does read Notes, or at least has them
forwarded to him. A recent memo by him had, in the text, a reference to
"MORE EASY STUFF", which is in the title of a previous topic in this
notesfile.
However, I agree with -.1 in that our management should contribute much
more to Notes like this one, not just for this kind of topic but for
technical, marketing, sales etc....
Ray
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1192.4 | | STKMKT::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Wed Sep 19 1990 15:48 | 4 |
| Friday, September 28, 1990 sundown commences the most solemn holy day
of Judaism.
Whose differences are being valued?
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1192.5 | VTX | MSBCS::KING | | Wed Sep 19 1990 16:05 | 19 |
| Broadcast messages over the system are intended to convey system,
software and network availability.
VTX, DVN and newsletters are the vehicles that are intended to
disseminate information to all employees. Just about every site has a
LIVEWIRE terminal in its lobby. If you look in LIVEWIRE right now,
there is a polished version of Jack Smith's memo about his DVN
broadcast.
System managers are not responsible for conveying such messages but making
sure that the vehicles designed to deliver them are functioning
properly, i.e. VTX, MTS, DECnet, VAX hardware.
Thankyou,
Bryan
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1192.6 | Getting real... | MARX::BAIRD | | Wed Sep 19 1990 16:25 | 14 |
|
I, too, am sure that Jack Smith reads these notes and I believe the
purpose of taking a broader approach technically in dealing with the
message and direct input is a result of the extensive miscommunication
that has occured in the last couple of weeks.
While the forums being used may not service everyone at once, a lot of
folks are going to have the chance to hear Jack's message first hand.
This sure beats some of the gross misinterpretations I've run into
lately. I believe things can be greatly improved with a clear meassage
of direction from the top and creative, innovative solutions from the
'bottom.' Bypassing the middlemen is great idea.
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1192.7 | What's a lobby? | SCAACT::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow | Wed Sep 19 1990 16:47 | 9 |
| re: .5
You are exhibiting GMA thinking. I do not know of a single terminal in Dallas
or Fort Worth dedicated to LIVEWIRE, whether it is in a lobby or not. In fact,
most people here don't even know about LIVEWIRE. I hardly ever read it because
it uses the VTX interface which drives me crazy. Now if I could get it mailed
to me....
Bob
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1192.8 | You've got it backwards | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Wed Sep 19 1990 18:08 | 12 |
| > I suspect that Jack Smith does read Notes, or at least has them
> forwarded to him. A recent memo by him had, in the text, a reference to
> "MORE EASY STUFF", which is in the title of a previous topic in this
> notesfile.
Oh, Ray.
The Jack Smith memo with the subject "MORE EASY STUFF" was written by him
on 7-Sep and posted in the "MORE EASY STUFF" topic note of this conference
on 10-Sep.
/john
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1192.9 | oh joy | KEYS::MOELLER | DEC-rewarding successful risk takers | Wed Sep 19 1990 18:22 | 7 |
| The closest DVN facility is 120 miles away. We'll ALL go.
The only time I've seen LIVEWIRE is in building lobbies back East.
My best shot at hearing what he says is RIGHT HERE...
karl
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1192.10 | | GWYNED::YUKONSEC | Leave the poor nits in peace! | Wed Sep 19 1990 19:16 | 8 |
| RE: .4
This may be why the broadcast is starting at 1:00 eastern time. He
did say he will only be talking for about 15 minutes, then taking
questions via call-ins. Even giving 2 hours for questions, this has
you out by 3:15, and should not interfere with Yom Kippur, IMO
E Grace
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1192.11 | What no orders? | DELREY::MEUSE_DA | | Wed Sep 19 1990 20:18 | 13 |
| I find that scheduling this on the 28th of September a little difficult
to understand. Since I work in OMS, that day is the last day of the
quarter. Meaning both sales and oms will be pushing to certify business
and for some it will be very hard to get away for any length of time.
Why the 28th?
Won't there be any business?
Just my humble opinion.
DM
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1192.12 | what does Corporate REALLY mean ? | SHIRE::GOLDBLATT | | Thu Sep 20 1990 06:24 | 4 |
| Is this to be a U.S.-only broadcast ? 1300 EST is 1900 here in
Switzerland, and where's a DVN to be found here ?
David
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1192.13 | | TAGART::DONNELLY | Joe Donnelly, LES PBU, Ayr | Thu Sep 20 1990 06:43 | 6 |
| > Is this to be a U.S.-only broadcast ? 1300 EST is 1900 here in
> Switzerland, and where's a DVN to be found here ?
DVN broadcasts do not reach Europe.
Joe
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1192.14 | | MARVIN::COCKBURN | nemo me impune lacessit | Thu Sep 20 1990 06:57 | 19 |
| > <<< Note 1192.13 by TAGART::DONNELLY "Joe Donnelly, LES PBU, Ayr" >>>
>> Is this to be a U.S.-only broadcast ? 1300 EST is 1900 here in
>> Switzerland, and where's a DVN to be found here ?
> DVN broadcasts do not reach Europe.
DVN = Digital Video Network ?
Oh come on, surely you must know by now that the terms 'Digital' and 'US
only' are freely interchangeable.
Yeah, it would be great if the broadcasts were at 1300 BST, then maybe
Europe could join in.
Europe? did someone mention Europe? Hang on, while I go and look it up
on the atlas to see where it is.
Craig.
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1192.15 | Post your memo in Notes? | RAVEN1::TYLER | Try to earn what Lovers own | Thu Sep 20 1990 08:55 | 8 |
| LIVEWIRE can be reach from any terminal right? You can get into VTX
from any terminal so any of the functions that it caries are
accessible.
I do wonder who is responsible for making sure that EVERYONE in Digital
does see J.Smith's memo.
I also wonder who put in the base note. I mean Notes is a means of
communication so why can't he or any level person make use of it. Gosh
knows I do! ;^)
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1192.16 | Long-term OR ONLY short-term???? | CSOMKT::MCMAHON | Carolyn McMahon | Thu Sep 20 1990 09:15 | 36 |
| Do you think there is sincerity here? If so, what kind of topics do
you think he's interested in? ONLY SHORT TERM ONES?
Unfortunately, a lot of the things we need to fix are, in our culture,
considered long-term (6 mos. +). If we had addressed some of these
"long-term" issues a year ago, we'd be reaping the benefits today!
Since we can't turn back the clock, do you think we could learn from
our errors and address some of these "long-term" issues now? Is Jack
Smith & company the right place to do this?? I don't know & would like
your feedback.
PS: I sent the following to his office (trying to help the cause):
I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 20-Sep-1990 08:01am EDT
From: CAROLYN MCMAHON @MKO
MCMAHON.CAROLYN
Dept: DELTA
Tel No: 264-5977
TO: Remote Addressee ( JIM JOHNSON @PKO )
Subject: RE: Jack Smith's 9/18 DVN
Jim,
If you aren't already track this, I suggest you follow VAXnotes
conference HUMAN::DIGITAL note 1192. This note is raising some
pertinent points.
Carolyn
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1192.17 | | LEVERS::MPETERSON | | Thu Sep 20 1990 10:57 | 26 |
| I find it very interesting how a lot of people can come
up with so many excuses/problems to viewing the
DVN broadcast. Also looking at livewire.
* If the nearest broadcast is 120 miles away
make arrangements to have it taped.
* It fall on the morn of a holiday, nothing was
mentioned for a broadcast after sundown.
* If it is a month end closing come to work a few
minutes earliers if your that concerned.
* If you don't have vtx in Dallas why don't you
research on how it can be aquired.
My perception is that if more effort was put into
what we can do to correct situations instead of
critizing we would be better of corporate wide.
A manager once told me that if you come to me
with a problem bring along some solutions. I am
not going to solve all your problems.
Mike
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1192.18 | Just trying to redirect thinking outside of GMA | SCAACT::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow | Thu Sep 20 1990 11:21 | 14 |
| re: .17
> * If you don't have vtx in Dallas why don't you
> research on how it can be aquired.
VTX is available in Dallas. I was replying to the reply that seemed to think
that since he saw terminals in the lobby where he worked, that they must be
universally available.
Bob
P.S. This is of course ignoring completely the issue of how do employees
who only come into the office once a month or so, get timely access to the
information that would be available.
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1192.19 | No Interpreter? | CURIE::FLEESE | | Thu Sep 20 1990 14:33 | 7 |
|
The memo does not even mention whether they will provide the sign
language interpreter. I think every hearing imparied employees have
rights to know what is going on during the DVN.
Kevin
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1192.20 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Andy Leslie | Thu Sep 20 1990 16:08 | 5 |
| RE: .17 Well excuuuse us for being isolated by a parochial attitude
that says Asia and Europe don't exist.
/andy/uk
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1192.21 | | SSBN1::YANKES | | Thu Sep 20 1990 18:10 | 25 |
|
So let me sum up how this broadcast has to be done in a way that makes
everyone happy:
1) Make sure it isn't done on a workday since that would interfere with
getting real work done.
2) Make sure it doesn't fall anywhere near any holiday of any religion.
3) Broadcast it on a time of day that is simultaniously convenient to
all of the Digital sites around the world.
4) Simultaniously translate it into every local language for those
Digital employees who are not fluent in English. (I'm taking the hearing
impared comments to their next logical step. If we shouldn't be US-centric,
we certainly shouldn't be just English-centric.)
5) Find a mechanism for the discussion that lets people who aren't
near DVN, aren't in the GMA, don't have terminals or who are on systems that
don't have VTX installed to hear the message immediately.
Sure, sounds easy. What would the net result be anyway? All we'll do
is hop into notes that much sooner and beef about what was said.
-craig
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1192.22 | The winner is.. | DELREY::MEUSE_DA | | Thu Sep 20 1990 18:21 | 12 |
| re:21
Yes, you are correct on all points.
But, just a simple little e-mail is fine with me, I watch too much of
the boob tube as it is.
Dave
ps( Our stock just hit 54, should be quite a speech).
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1192.23 | EDT vs EST.. you get confused. | KRAPPA::CRABTREE | | Thu Sep 20 1990 18:43 | 11 |
| I wonder if the broadcast will really be at 1:00pm EST. The last time
I looked at my watch I was still on Eastern Daylight Saving Time. If I
get there at 2:00pm EDT for a 1:00pm EST broadcast it will probably be
all over. God only knows what time it will be on in Arizona and parts
of Indiana.
Would somebody check into this please. I can't believe no one else has
caught this goof.
JC
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1192.25 | a suggestion for Jack Smith | ODIXIE::CARNELL | DTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALF | Thu Sep 20 1990 21:11 | 15 |
|
Speaking of hopping into notes, if Jack is opening the phones for most
of the broadcast for questions, why doesn't he ALSO have his secretary
type his 15 minute speach up ahead of time electronically and the day
of the DVN just after he finishes, he accesses this conference
(HUMAN::DIGITAL), and dumps a copy into a reply in this topic, directly
from his electronic account, where he adds a preface, "Hi. I, Jack
Smith am now an official noter too! Here's the speach below from DVN.
What's your question?" Aren't there more employees worldwide accessing
this conference (10,000 to 40,000?) than are able to be at a DVN site
AND call in during a limited 90 min DVN and get through with their
questions?
This is my employee involvement suggestion, Jack. What do you think?
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1192.26 | What questions to ask? | GLDOA::HYDE | | Fri Sep 21 1990 01:38 | 18 |
| Would anyone care to shift the discussion to brainstorm and explore what sort
of questions we should ask Jack? And how they should be phrased? In the DVN
broadcast of the quarterly report, some of the callers either didn't get their
point across or weren't answered in quite the way they hoped.
Two of the issues I'm struggling to phrase questions about regard:
(1) what does he see as the mission of Digital, what is his vision; and
(2) what sort of LONG-TERM thinking are the exec's engaging in -
i.e. what have they learned from this, how will we not repeat
mistakes once this crisis is past; are they willing to examine
the traditional systems, processes, and structures and potentially
make changes such as significantly flattening the organization?
I'm also curious to see if there's any specific _types_ of 'global
questions' that you all feel should be asked. I'd hate for such a golden
opportunity to result in mostly "send me a proposal" answers. Thanks.
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1192.27 | Relate some examples of leadership | AGENT::LYKENS | Manage business, Lead people | Fri Sep 21 1990 09:36 | 13 |
| Mr. Smith...
Can you give me some examples of cost cutting measures that the
executive committee/senior management have adopted that reduce expenses they
directly incur?
[My morale would be boosted a few points to hear some specific things our
senior executives have done personally as opposed to organizational directives.]
I like my management to lead by example.
-Terry
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1192.28 | Question? | DELREY::MEUSE_DA | | Fri Sep 21 1990 14:14 | 14 |
| I have one simple question. Sources say that we have 25,000 too many
people. If 25,000 people were let go with the normal U.S company type
serverance pay (2-4 weeks) would that fix things? Would it fix things
over the long haul? Or are we so lost that it wouldn't?
Can all of these expense cutbacks really make up for the reduced
revenue that will not support a population of 125,000.
Please don't respond emotionally, just with your best business sense.
Thanks
Dave
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1192.29 | Access should be important to us all | MCIS2::CASERTA | | Fri Sep 21 1990 14:51 | 17 |
|
Just for clarification....
The broadcast will be interpreted into American Sign Language.
As for the person who thought we should investigate a variety of
different translations etc. etc. ,although it was presented in humor
(I think), its important for we as a company to remember that
we cannot hold employees responsible for adhering to information
presented in forums in which they cannot obtain access.
Sharon Caserta
Sharon Caserta
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1192.30 | Yes, in jest, but with a message | SSBN1::YANKES | | Fri Sep 21 1990 19:11 | 16 |
|
Re: .29
Yes, my comments were in jest. I believe _fully_ that every employee
should be able to find out what was said. Clearly, as you pointed out, we
can't hold employees responsible for things they cannot hear about. I was
poking fun at the lamentations that every employee does not have the technology
and/or right time_zone and/or right holiday schedule to hear it "live". Really,
finding out the info a day or two later is no big deal. I was venting my
frusteration that people seemed to be more concerned about who is going to
hear it when and what continent Smith is going to be broadcasting from/to rather
than what is going to be said. (And also pointing out that we can "value
everyone's differences" to the point where the broadcast cannot be made due
to the inevitable stepping on of someone's toes. Time-zones, for example.)
-craig
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1192.31 | To .26. Getting to Actionable things | CSOMKT::MCMAHON | Carolyn McMahon | Mon Sep 24 1990 09:28 | 33 |
| I rather see us get our thinking further developed and away from what
we've allowed to become "escapes". Things like "vision" and "mission"
have become pretty much gossamer fluff here because we've not put any
real meat or teeth behind these statements.
I think the time for smoke is past and it's now time for action. For
instance, it seems that reducing so many levels of management is well
at hand. These are some of the questions I'd like to see addressed
now:
- What is executive management going to do to insure that only
good quality managers remain after such a revision?
- In our Executive's view, what are the dominant attributes of good
management? What should our management standards be?
- What of themselves are Executives going to put into this most
critical improvement?
I see this as only one of areas that must be addressed in concrete,
specfic terms if we truly want to improve our corporate performance.
The way I see it, the greatest hope that we have for really turning
this company around is that Executive management champion the process
by discovering and getting down to root causes. However, that alone is
not enough. The Execs. must decide on concrete, actionable plans to
fix these things - let us know what they are - and then put teeth into
them.
Saying "do the right thing" won't cut the muster anymore. Our company
needs leadership with both logic AND action. Our leaders must lead by
example, not just dictate. I believe it can be done - but that it must
REALLY be done.
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1192.32 | to .28 "Off with their heads"? | CSOMKT::MCMAHON | Carolyn McMahon | Mon Sep 24 1990 09:39 | 12 |
| I'm afraid that cutting out 6,000, 25,000 or even 50,000 people at
random won't solve the root problem. There are so many examples that
this strategy doesn't work, I won't take up the space here to go into
them. These examples are from both inside and outside Digital and many
are sprinkled throughout NOTES if anyone's really interested.
However, I suspect that we will still go through with cutting out
people and still be left with the root problems. How about we learn
from others (and ourselves) and start to think SMARTER right from the
Executive level right down to you and me??? How about we try to really
fix things instead of taking the relatively easy route of the old
standby F&A answer - "Off with their heads!"?
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1192.33 | "Right-sizing" | TPS::BUTCHART | Machete Coder | Mon Sep 24 1990 09:58 | 15 |
| There was a good article in "Fortune" magazine a few months back on
"right-sizing". It pointed out a number of instances where companies
destroyed or seriously damaged themselves by downsizing. If you have
fundamental problems of direction or management, an excellent way to make
them WORSE is to downsize. Still got the same problems, the remaining
people still don't have an effective way to deal with them, and the good
ones are now overworked to boot!
If we have "lots of deadwood", that's a MAJOR failure of management, the
same people who will be deciding who and where to cut. Unless the fundamental
problems of communication and direction are solved FIRST, cutting headcount
will lead to nothing but more cutting of headcount. And our costs will still
be out of control.
/Dave
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1192.34 | I guess I will send in some questions. | POETIC::LEEDBERG | Justice and License | Mon Sep 24 1990 11:51 | 25 |
|
It used to be that an individual could make a proposal
and get "real" answers about it from management and
their peers. More and more I see and hear that all
one gets is the infamous DEC NOD. The No Output Division
used to be a joke, now I fear it is the main stay of
business for DEC.
I had the opportunity to work in the field for 8 days
last spring, it changed my view of DEC alot. It is
my feeling that our Executives need to look at where
DEC is now, what we do well, what we don't do well,
see if there is anything that we can change for the
better and then DO IT. And the most important thing
is not to punish individuals for pointing out that the
Emperor has not clothes on (or the project is slipping
YEARS).
We have to believe in DEC but DEC also has to believe in
us. This is one of the things that is missing, upper
management's belief that the employees really do understand
the business DEC is in.
_peggy
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1192.35 | | FDCV07::HSCOTT | Lynn Hanley-Scott | Mon Sep 24 1990 12:48 | 3 |
| re .32 and .33
Hope you send your questions in for the telecast....
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1192.36 | | CGHUB::CONNELLY | Eye Dr3 -- Regnad Kcin | Mon Sep 24 1990 15:53 | 8 |
| re: .33
That hits the nail on the head. When the "re-org/reduction" that's supposed
to fix our problems is wholly designed by the people who are responsible for
the present mess, with no real input (other than "just nod your head") from
the people in the ranks who are NOT responsible for the present mess, there
is a major opportunity for disaster to strike.
paul
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1192.37 | More competitive. | DELREY::MEUSE_DA | | Tue Sep 25 1990 12:53 | 12 |
| I would like to suggest that our sales representatives salary be
figured on a commission basis or at least partly so. Based upon what I
have seen, there are a lot of good reps. But, there are a lot of reps
earning 50K to 75K and not generating a lot of business. A lot of it is
business that was generated on its own, by customer demand.
I know quite a lot of people don't like this idea. But I think it would
be right. If you can't do the job, please don't expect the rest of
Digital to carry you.
Dave
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1192.38 | More cut-throat | ESCROW::KILGORE | Wild Bill | Tue Sep 25 1990 14:58 | 17 |
|
Re .37:
>> I know quite a lot of people don't like this idea. But I think it would
>> be right.
A lot of people don't like it because it puts selling anything ahead of
fulfilling the customer's requirements, which does not tend to result
in a happy customer.
>> If you can't do the job, please don't expect the rest of
>> Digital to carry you.
We have two ways to implement that idea: 0% pay adjustments, and
dismissal. These measures are not confined to sales only, but can be
implemented equitably across the board.
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1192.39 | Yes, but.. | DELREY::MEUSE_DA | | Tue Sep 25 1990 18:06 | 12 |
| I think our customers are a lot smarter than we think and know what
meets their expectations and what doesn't. At least the customers I
have a work with, most are engineers who know what they need. They
can't be sold the product if it doesn't measure up. Sorry, I don't
think the current salary system is motivational enough. Too many people
just not performing and getting away with it. And I don't think within
Digital it is that easy for managers to correct the problem. Too many
warnings,hoops, paperwork and talking. Just easier to move the
offending person to another account.
Dave
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1192.40 | to .39: More whitewash?? | CSOMKT::MCMAHON | Carolyn McMahon | Wed Sep 26 1990 09:53 | 8 |
| Switching to commission-based remuneration for Sales hasn't cured the
problem for any other company that has done it. All it does is change
the game, not change the outcome.
Besides, beating on any part of Digital that is the victim of poor
management isn't going to improve the situation. Changing incentives
around, like the proverbial pea under the shell, is no substitute for
fixing the root cause - poor people management.
|
1192.41 | submitted questions | STKMKT::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Wed Sep 26 1990 10:00 | 53 |
| These are the questions that I have formally submitted. I request,
although I regret that it won't be honored, that DIGITAL conference
participants _not_ discuss or speculate in this note how they will be
answered.
Furthermore, I submitted these questions on my own as an individual
employee and not as a representative of any group within Digital.
Q: A problem that I see in Digital never seems to be addressed: Small
profit-oriented companies keep their staff as small as possible. When the
profits are divided, each person receives a bigger share. Digital managers
strive to make their staffs as large as possible. What incentives are in place
to reward managers who get results with 8 people rather that 12? Or spends
$1 million rather than $1.5 million?
Q: A lot of the recent memos are directives that remove discretion from cost
center managers and lengthen the time it takes to obtain final decisions.
Why can't cost center managers be trusted to make the right spending decisions?
Or make a decision _not_ to spend?
Q: In the Wall Street Journal, two years ago, a business school professor wrote
that the Digital's critical problem was in sales management, that Digital's
sale force didn't know its customers, know its products, or even call on many
customers. Would he be accurate today?
Q: The best lessons are the ones taught by example, how are Ken Olsen, Jack
Smith, and the Vice Presidents personally saving Digital money?
Q: Do we have too many vice presidents and managers and not enough engineers
and sales reps? Why is it after "downsizing", the number of levels of
management never change? Have any offices in MA or NH reverted back to
shopping malls?
Q: Isn't the easy decision to automatically say "No": "no" to hiring, "no" to
capital decisions, "no" to supporting a third party software vendor. Won't
this strip Digital of the tools it needs to be competitive after the crisis
is over? How does one prioritize spending?
Q: Why can't decisions once made stay "made"? What can't budgets once set,
stay set? This isn't flexibility, it's day-to-day chaos that undermines any
investment in a plan created six months ago, or create any incentive to
sincerely plan for the next six months.
Q: Ken Olsen in 1982 said "When a company has a layoff, it's management's
fault... In a recession people want to test me, to see if I'm brave enough to
have a layoff. I'm willing to take that ridicule because it's paid off to hold
on to our people. I don't have layoffs to show how brave I am... We have a
big investment in the people,.. It's also good business for our people to have
confidence that we will not lay them off just to help our profit short-term.
This faith in the company is important." How has this sentiment changed, if
at all in 1990?
Q: What steps will restore Digital to profitability?
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1192.42 | Jack, please answer all the questions | ODIXIE::QUINN | | Wed Sep 26 1990 10:18 | 11 |
| I submitted a question stating:
Since the broadcast was of limited time, only a few questions can be
answered. The object of the broadcast was to open communications and
let people knwo what is going on, can Jack's staff answer all the
questions submitted and make them available electronically either
posted in this notes file and/or VTX?
Let's get answers to the hard questions, not just the easy ones.
- John
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1192.43 | broadcast rescheduled | CVG::THOMPSON | Aut vincere aut mori | Wed Sep 26 1990 14:00 | 30 |
| DQR employee telecast with Jack Smith rescheduled
to Wednesday, October 3 at 1:00 p.m. EDT
The DQR employee telecast, featuring Senior Vice President of Operations
Jack Smith, originally scheduled for Friday, September 28, has been
rescheduled to Wednesday, October 3, at 1 P.M. Eastern Time.
The move is in response to feedback from managers and employees who want to
attend the telecast but need to focus their full attention to closing Q1
business. Again, the new date for the telecast is Wednesday, October 3, at
1:00 p.m. Eastern Time.
There has been a lot of employee feedback, pro and con, from the last employee
telecast, and some cost-saving measures announced in recent weeks. Jack will
explain why both "big-ticket" and seemingly "small change" cost-saving efforts
are necessary to make the company more competitive in the next several
quarters. In addition, we will try to answer as many employee questions as
time permits.
As usual, a limited number of seats in the studio audience at the BUO
facility in Bedford, Mass. will be made available on a first-come,
first-served basis. If interested, please contact Barbara McKenna, in
Corporate Employee Communication, at DTN 251-1308.
Videotape copies of the telecast will be available through the Digital
Library Network, and copies should also be available at most DVN sites.
The telecast will be sign interpreted.
Consult U.S. News menu, choice 99 for the location of the DVN site nearest you.
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1192.44 | Commissions | RBW::WICKERT | MAA USIS Consultant | Thu Sep 27 1990 16:55 | 19 |
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The problem with basing a sales rep's salary almost entirely on
commissions is that not all accounts are created equal. Is it fair to
assign a rep to an account like DuPont where the orders almost fall
into their laps vs an IBM stronghold account where we're attempting to
break into it for the first time? I've seen both types of accounts and
have known sales reps, and therefore the corporation, who have invested
several years selling almost nothing while making steady progress
against the competition. And it never fails that within a month of the
sales rep moving onto other assignments that account places a large
order which the new rep get's credit for but we all know it's the
groundwork done by the previous rep that really paved the way.
How do you allow investment selling while still ensure the sales rep is
compensated fairly?
-Ray
ps shouldn't this be in another note?
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1192.46 | pathetic | HEFTY::CHARBONND | scorn to trade my place | Mon Oct 01 1990 11:23 | 12 |
| re .45
Ayuh, there's a problem - I knew about the rescheduling on the
26th (Wednesday afternoon.) As of Friday my supervisor still
thought the speech was to be on Friday.
So tell us, Jack, *how much money will be wasted getting the word
out through slow, archaic, wasteful communications channels* ?
IMO management non-use of the latest communications media/tech-
niques is the biggest time/money waster in DEC.
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1192.47 | Telling it to Jack | SICML::LEVIN | My kind of town, Chicago is | Tue Oct 02 1990 18:24 | 23 |
| From a mail message I sent today to Jack Smith. I'm posting it here so readers
of this conference also know there IS a mechanism for sending out messages, even
if it seems to almost never be used. (No, I don't know if using it also
generates large amounts of paper mail.)
" ... I've heard complaints from some people about the slowness of
getting messages (such as the announcement of the Quarterly Report last Friday
and the rescheduling to tomorrow) sent out to the populace. Although I
received notice through normal channels, some people have expressed lack of
such notification.
My notifications came through our DVN coordinator in Chicago, which makes me
assume that the announcement was sent out via some sort of "send to top
management and have them forward down their chain" process.
I'd like to suggest an alternative. Are you or your staff aware of the ability
of Digital Telecommunications to send out mail based on the DECnet cluster
structure? According to the MTS Matrix, a report maintained by Dave Emerson
@PKO, a message can be sent to 32 USA clusters, 17 European and/or 10 GIA
clusters. The cluster manager can then direct messages to all "Subscribers" in
their area. This seems to me like a very efficient way to get the word out at
least to everyone in the corporation with an electronic mail account."
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1192.48 | | HEFTY::CHARBONND | scorn to trade my place | Wed Oct 03 1990 07:56 | 1 |
| re .47 Thank you
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1192.49 | | BLUMON::QUODLING | Are we having fun[ding] yet? | Wed Oct 03 1990 09:19 | 5 |
| Doesn't that tend to forget the engineering groups that don't use
All-in-1/MTS? But then, they have faster "grapevine" methods...
q
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1192.50 | | KOBAL::DICKSON | | Wed Oct 03 1990 11:11 | 2 |
| No one method is going to reach everybody. I'd rather hear something
three times than not hear it at all.
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1192.51 | | TAGART::DONNELLY | Joe Donnelly, LES PBU, Ayr | Wed Oct 03 1990 12:38 | 4 |
| Would some kind person care to take the time and give an overview
of what is said in the broadcast.
Joe
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1192.52 | | ROYALT::KOVNER | Everything you know is wrong! | Wed Oct 03 1990 14:40 | 6 |
| I second the request for a summary, before the newspapers do that for us.
My site (DSG) had no sound.
I guess this is part valuing differences - only people who know ASL could
get anything out of it.
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1192.53 | I just want to know what was said.. | CGOA01::HARROP | Ring those phones!!! | Wed Oct 03 1990 15:06 | 6 |
| I will "third" the request for a summary...
For those of us in offices where DVN is not available and travel in
excess of 500 miles would be required to get to one, all this
discussion about notification of DVN broadcasts being poor is very
pointless. We have yet to hear what was said at all.
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1192.54 | Over all I was impressed with the show and the man | CVG::THOMPSON | Aut vincere aut mori | Wed Oct 03 1990 16:07 | 58 |
| Quick summary. I didn't take notes and it went about an hour and
a half so errors and omissions are my own. Tapes are, we were told,
going to be sent to Europe and GIA.
Jack started with some opening remarks. Much of what he said can be
found in topic 1213 and he did get WW II timing wrong. He's also
been reading (hard copy or on line I don't know) from Notes BTW. So
I suspect he'll get the message for the future.
Key points were that he and top management REALLY want to hear ideas
from people. The ideas in his recent memos around cost cutting
(bottled water etc) largely came from other employees. He answers
critics who say he should be working only on the big things with
two things. One the big things only get us half way. Second, he
feels that using his name and office to distribute and encourage
the implementation of other people's ideas for "small things" is
a good use of his time.
He also talked about some "big things". He said that they've reduced
floor space by 500,000 square feet recently and that they hope/expect
to reduce it by yet an other 1.5 million square feet by the end of
the calendar year. Also spending on international travel (I assume
from the US) is down about 18-20%. He also talked about a 5-6 day
improvement in DOS (Days Outstanding) in our accounts receivables and
some improvement in inventory turns.
After opening remarks Buzz Luttrell (the host) showed a stack of
about 150 questions/concerns/suggestions that came in response to
the request for same for this broadcast. They were not all addressed
by the broadcast. Suggestions will be fed into Delta which Jack
expressed his support for both strongly and regularly. He really
convinced me that he at least believe that employees can provide
important and helpful suggestions. Someone made the comment that
managers who do not encourage or who discourage people from making
suggestions are a problem. Jack said that maybe they should look at
groups were making suggestions or perhaps more importantly what
groups are *not* making suggestions.
Jack expressed some concern over the number of anonymous suggestions
both by mail and notes. He feels that if people are afraid to come
forward that that is a very bad thing. He understands that the ODP
(Open Door Policy) can not work in such an environment. He is now
trying to understand how big or widespread a problem that is and
look for ways to fix it.
In answer to a question about moving to a flatter management structure
Jack indicated that restructering at all management levels was going
to happen. Not in a matter of months but in weeks. When asked about
people (in management) who created large deep organizations being
asked to fix them, Jack indicated that some top down (hinting at him
being the top) instruction may have to take place. He indicated at
the end of the broadcast that top management (I assume KO and him)
have the resolve to do what ever is needed to turn things around.
There was more but that's off the top of my head and to get something
in quickly. More later if I have a chance.
Alfred
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1192.55 | | SCAACT::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow | Wed Oct 03 1990 17:02 | 5 |
| I think Alfred pretty well summed it up. The thing that impressed me most was
the statement that the management reorg was going to be done in weeks, not
months.
Bob
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1192.56 | 5 to 6,000 employees to be offered buyout | BABBLE::MEAGHER | | Wed Oct 03 1990 17:11 | 14 |
| One more point: Jack said we're looking to lose 5,000 to 6,000 employees by
the end of December. The company is doing all it can to avert layoffs, but
"never say never," he said. Someone from Phoenix asked about the rumor that
8,000 people would be laid off by whatever date, and he said categorically that
that was not true.
At the end he said that people often tell him that top management doesn't seem
to be serious in what it's doing to get us back on track. He emphasized that he
is *very serious* and we shouldn't doubt that he'll do what he has to.
I thought it was a good telecast. Except for the WWII glitch, I was impressed.
(But hey, some Americans don't even realize the U.S. fought in World War II.)
Vicki Meagher
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1192.57 | Here's your chance to affect change -- act now | SAHQ::CARNELLD | DTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALF | Wed Oct 03 1990 17:21 | 19 |
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Key feedback on DVN:
The majority of call-in questions revolved around the same issue,
stated in different ways: There are fundamental problems impeding
employee involvement, real participation, good ideas and programs
getting truly implemented, and effective change. One cause expressed
by many seemed to be bloated bureaucratic management who did not care.
When asked specifically if MANAGERS "should resign" who do NOT support
employee involvement programs and encouraging employees to create
ideas, Jack Smith said, "YES." He also said management structural
changes may be weeks away as time is running short.
Jack invited feedback on the DVN and repeatedly said he wasn't real
sure "what the problem was." Enlighten Jack, everyone. Send a memo.
TO: Jack Smith @CORE
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1192.58 | for those who don't follow VTX LIVEWIRE | CVG::THOMPSON | Aut vincere aut mori | Sat Oct 06 1990 00:34 | 100 |
| Worldwide News LIVE WIRE
'Let's get on with it': Jack Smith challenges employees on
'Digital Quarterly Report'
"Everyone has to get in the game," Senior Vice President Jack Smith said
in a recent "Digital Quarterly Report" broadcast.
Every employee's help is needed, Jack said, so that the company can return
to profitability. "You are being heard. Many of your suggestions have
already been implemented, many more will be implemented, and still more are
being analyzed. But we need all of you to get in the game."
During the 90-minute broadcast, Jack talked about the company's current
cost-reduction strategies and answered employees' questions. He also talked
about Digital's future. "When you look at the future, you have to think of
what the marketplace will look like," he said. "The successful companies
and industries in the future will be those who provide customers with
cost-effective products and/or cost-effective services in real time.
"In many areas, we've made the right investments," Jack continued, noting
that Digital's "number-one strength" is networking. He also cited the major
investment the company has made in supporting OSF, the Open Software
Foundation. "We've probably committed more technology to OSF than any
other company," he said. "This will give us an edge.
"So we believe that in the future, computing will be done in a heterogeneous
distributed environment; that customers want to maintain their current
investments; that they need networking to tie it all together; and that they
will want to buy from a vendor with worldwide capabilities.
"When you put that all together, you realize that we're one of the few
companies that can compete in this environment. We are well-positioned for
the future," he said.
Employees viewing from DVN sites across the U.S. called in with questions
and comments. Some suggested ways in which Digital could save money. A
Maynard area employee, for example, suggested that test equipment be put
into a "pool" so it can be shared among groups.
Another employee suggested that people should find ways to eliminate their
own jobs, as an employee in Europe did recently. "That takes a special
kind of person," Jack replied. "We want to encourage people to take a
look at the growth areas of the company. If you feel that your area is not
an obvious growth area, then come forward and explore the growth areas.
Remember, we haven't stopped investing. But we must invest wisely."
Jack also spoke briefly about how facility consolidations were saving Digital
money. He said that the company is moving out of leased space into company-
owned buildings for additional cost savings. "To date, we've closed 500,000
square feet of space just through consolidations," he said.
"By the end of Q2, we'll eliminate an additional million square feet --
representing a savings of $20 million a year. An additional 2.5 million
square feet of space has been identified and scheduled to be vacated by
the end of this fiscal year."
Other cost-containment measures that are reaping savings are in the areas of
relocation, travel, in-house equipment, inventory turns, and days sales
outstanding, which is the number of days it takes customers to pay Digital.
"Most of the ideas for cost savings in the area of relocation have come from
people who have relocated," Jack said. "To me, that's a significant
indication that people are really getting the message about what we are
trying to do."
Jack noted that in Q1, relocations were down 25% from the same period a
year ago -- a big cost saving.
Travel-related expenses are also trending downward. "Most of the cost savings
in this area are obvious -- booking two weeks in advance, fly coach -- the
normal things that we do when we travel ourselves on our personal time. It's
interesting to note that the average cost per ticket for international travel
has already dropped 18% for Q1. That's good news. First quarter projections
indicate a trend that will cut this expense by a minimum of 20%. And most of
this was based on your ideas."
Inventory turns over the last several years have gone from two turns to
roughly 4.3 turns. That improvement has put $1.4 billion on Digital's balance
sheet. In fact, Jack said, "we ended Q1 with less inventory than when Q1
began. We should feel very good about that."
Many employees called to say they were concerned about staff reduction
rumors. A caller from San Diego asked Jack to set things straight.
"The current transition program is a voluntary program," Jack said. "Our
operations people have indicated that we will get the 5,000 or 6,000 people
we need. At the same time, I want to get across the message of expediency."
Employees were encouraged to send their ideas to IDEAS CENTRAL @OGO or
SONATA::IDEASCENTRAL. Jack reminded viewers that "there isn't a place in
the company where we can't save money.
"Change is hard," he said. "But we have the resolve. We know what we have
to do."
"Digital Quarterly Report" is produced by Corporate Employee Communication
and distributed around the world. For copies of tapes of the broadcast, send
mail to the DVN office at EXIT26::AVINFO.
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