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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
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1010.0. "DEC - Global Competition?" by MPGS::BOYAN () Wed Jan 17 1990 16:03

  Folks,

     As of late, in the last several months at least, much rhetoric
concerning Six Sigma, Employee Involvement, Employee Empowerment,
and others, have been floating about.

     Six Sigma is stillborn.  Employee Involvement Program is
impotent. Employee Empowerment is simply propaganda.

     What is going on here, people.  The need for this company to
effectively compete on the global market is bandied about constantly.  
Are we really serious though? (as a company)  

     What are the opinions of the noters concerning the following article.  
Are we in such jeopardy to the point that it would raise the concern of a 
professor/lawyer in Colorado?  Even Andy Rooney (of 60 minutes fame) 
occasionally writes articles in his syndicated column concerning the
precarious state of U.S. industrial capacity and it's ability to 
compete on the world market.

     People, you must understand.  What we are discussing here is the
survival of American Industry into the 21st century and the future of our
children.   YOUR children.   Where will they work?  Is there a place for
our children in the future?  What will be left to them?  Are we only to be
concerned with our own immediate prosperity and future be damned? 

     For many years, I also have expressed the same sentiments concerning
the survival of U.S. manufacturing in the face of the new global market.
All my arguments to date, have fallen on deaf ears.  I go home to escape
the frustrations of the workplace and pick up the evening paper only to
find articles such as the following presented to me -- in a local paper no
less; is it me?  Are the problems as serious as they appear to be as
expressed below?  In the past year I have read over 30 books authored by
those who appear to know well of the precarious situation in which
U.S. manufacturing finds itself.  Are they to be believed? 

     It would seem that the problems are apparent as well as the 
solutions.  What has become of the American Spirit?  Are we really willing
to "change the way in which we work"?  Why do we resist change?   Why do we
not meet these problems head on with fortitude and determination -- and 
solve them?  Why do we sleep?  Or is it that all is really well?  Is it
simply ME?  Am I insane?   What are WE going to do?  

      Read the following article and you tell me.


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      The following is reprinted without permission of the author
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              REASONS WHY THE U.S. IS LESS THAN COMPETITIVE
              ---------------------------------------------
                           by Richard Lamm

   Winston Churchill once said, "We build our buildings and then they
build us."

   A society whose culture builds productivity, hard work, education,
scientific research will build wealth.  A culture that encourages
hedonism, sloppy work, poor worker motivation and illiteracy is one
that shall be eclipsed.

  A nation whose culture easily obtains from its citizens cooperation,
discipline and self-sacrifice has a cultural building base much firmer than 
those whose work ethic has been eroded, whose sense of mission is undercut
and whose destiny is less manifest.

  America's work culture is not competitive with its international
competitors.  We work neither as long nor as effectively.  The average 
Korean worker averages 54.4 hours per week at work, while the average
Japanese worker spends 44.8 hours a week on the job. The average 
American spends 35.3 hours per week.

  In addition, we do not have enough skilled or motivated workers in our 
future.  Today, members of the high school class of 2000 are 8 years old.
Many of them will be looking for their first job in 10 years, yet:

  *About 35% of these children are "at risk" of never entering the economic 
mainstream. The are poor, handicapped or can't speak English.

  *About 23% of these kids live below the poverty line, often in single 
parent homes. Too often they lack the motivation, training and sometimes
even the basic nutrition to become productive workers.

  *Each year more than a million high school students drop out of school
and, of the 2.5 million who do graduate, about 25% of those can't read at 
an eight grade level.

   Such figures lock in national decline.  A nations success is built on 
the bedrock of its workers skills and motivations.  An incredible number of 
our future workers will not have the education or skills, and those that do
have the skills often don't have the motivation.

   The fact that the United States has twice the absenteeism rate and 25
times the industrial unrest is also evidence of increasing 
uncompetitiveness.  The President's Commission on Industrial 
Competitiveness has found that the United States loses 813 days per 1000
workers to industrial unrest compared to 31 days for Japan and 6 days for
West Germany.  Our employee motivation is constantly below that of our 
international competitors.

  U.S. workers do not work at or near their full potential. One reason for 
this is that 3/4 of U.S. employees believe there is little connection 
between their level of pay and the quality of their performance.  A mere 9%
of U.S employees believe they would benefit from increased productivity,
while 93% of Japanese workers believe an increase in the productivity of 
their employer will personally benefit them.

  A great nation needs great citizens. It needs skilled, educated and 
motivated workers. And we have failed to produce enough great citizens to 
keep our nation great.

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Richard Lamm, an attorney, is former governor of Colorado, author of 
several books, and is a professor at the University of Denver. 
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1010.1re: MotivationROYALT::FURMANWed Jan 17 1990 17:2437
    From my perspective, Richard Lamm's article puts the finger on a
    serious underlying issue:  how does society, the educational system,
    and business appropriately motivate the population to achieve the
    greater good.  As a simple example, consider the carrot vs. stick
    component to motivation.  Only half the population is motivated to
    avoid a penalty in any given context:  rising drug use and prison
    populations bear this out.  Now give the students entering high school
    the promise of a college education if they graduate (as seen on 60
    minutes several years ago, and now repeated numerous times by
    philanthropists) and watch the dropout rate plunge. 
    
    A complete characterization of motivation has emerged and has had
    remarkable success in job placement, management and sales for the 
    organizations using it, as I've been told by a V.P for a local
    high tech company.  The striking aspect of companies that understand
    how to motivate their employees is their flexibiltiy in using the
    motivational strategies available and the appropriateness of being
    able to motivate their employees to attain mutually successful
    outcomes.
    
    The U.S.'s greatest strength is its diversity and its ability to attract
    and welcome people from all over the world to contribute their talents
    to our society.  Perhaps this makes motivating us that much more 
    challenging.  We are not a homogeneous society and we will express
    ourselves individually and creatively, given a nurturing environment.
    
    This then is a truth test for how competitive our market economy can be
    in global competition.  With legitimate leaders who can harness the good 
    we have to offer, we will succeed the way we do things now (in
    business, education, etc).  Until then, there will be a stream of big
    winners and big losers (Montgomery Ward vs. Campeau, for example). 
    Hopefully our standard of living will not fall too far while we each do
    what we can to develope our leaders.    
    
    This IMHO is one way to understand what's going on.
    
    Terry
1010.2Rack up another one for Gov. Gloom.COMET::LAFORESTWed Jan 17 1990 17:327
     I won't respond to the article in context but I do want people to know
    and realise that Richard Lamm was also know as "Governor Gloom".  He is
    also the one that made the statement that older people have a duty to
    die in order to make room for younger people.  My own opinion, as a
    citizen of Colorado, is that I wouldn't take much of what this guy says
    very seriously.
                        
1010.3Cheap shots,CSC32::M_MURRAYWed Jan 17 1990 18:028
RE: .-1

No, you won't criticize the article in .0 on its own merits or lack thereof,
but you will resort to name calling and to quoting the ex-Governor out of 
context in an attempt to influence people's opinions.  Mr. Lamm  may
be annoying, but an attack on him is not germane to the discussion.

Mike
1010.4there is a world outside U.S.TKOV16::AIHARA_TWed Jan 17 1990 19:3318
RE: 0

What is going on?
I guess the U.S. is not as aggressive as Japanese companies.
Now, I work for DEC Japan.  From my observation, Digital is just
as agressive as any other company in Japan.  However, I do see
some lack of support from the U.S.

One thing that I want to remind you is that Digital is an American
firm but a global company.  Thus, it is quite easy to offend people
in the same company by pressing the "Americal Way".

Let's think on an international and global scale.

Tim Takao Aihara
Edu Serv
DEC Japan

1010.5this is NOT the 'How we work in America' fileSNOC02::SIMPSONThose whom the Gods would destroy...Wed Jan 17 1990 19:459
    re .4
    
>One thing that I want to remind you is that Digital is an American
>firm but a global company.  Thus, it is quite easy to offend people
>in the same company by pressing the "Americal Way".
    
    Thank you.  You said it for me.  Equating Digital with America is
    wrong.  In an abstract sense I could care less if America went down
    the tubes.  But I still work for Digital.
1010.6DEC25::BRUNOAn Innocent ManWed Jan 17 1990 20:384
         Ditto on the sentiments mentioned in .3.  Character attacks don't
    change the validity of statements.
    
                                       Greg
1010.7COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertWed Jan 17 1990 20:566
It's not clear that this is all that close to "The Way We Work at Digital."

Wouldn't PEAR::SOAPBOX, TRUCKS::EF90, or LDP::WORLD_FORUM be better places
for this discussion?

/john
1010.8Look AgainMPGS::BOYANThu Jan 18 1990 09:2624
    re.7
    John,
    
      The topic most certainly does relate to "The Way WE Work at Digital."
    I opened the topic commenting on supposedly real programs (Six Sigma,
    Employee Involvement) that appear to have been left by the wayside
    almost immediately after their introduction.  WHY?  They were trumpeted
    in and introduced as effective tools to increase the global
    competitiveness of this corporation.  I understand that over 20 million
    dollars is being or has been spent on the on the Employee Involvement
    Program already.  Was it well spent? 
    
      re. Doom and Gloom:
    
    You are not impressed with what R.Lamm has to say.  Dr. E. Demings has
    been saying the same thing for years.  So did the 1989 MIT Commission
    report on U.S Industry.  So did the 1987 report from the Blue Ribbon
    Commission of Princeton University.  H.Ross Perot also feels the same 
    way. So does Tom Peters of In Search of Excellence and Thriving on
    Choas fame.  So does the present Presidental Commission studying the
    state of U.S. Industry under the Bush administration.
    
       Perhaps Tim (of DEC Japan) would kindly tell us of the relationship
    os Japanese Industry and Dr. E. Demings.
1010.9DEC = Global COMPANYMOVIES::LESLIEIs a movie better than a stationary?Thu Jan 18 1990 09:374
    I hereby join in the chorus: DEC is a worldwide company that derives
    the majority of its revenue from outside the US.
    
    Thus this topic is not relevant to this conference.
1010.10you must get involved to affect changeODIXIE::CARNELLDTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALFThu Jan 18 1990 09:41205
    REF: <<< Note 1010.0 by MPGS::BOYAN >>>
           -< DEC - Global Competition? >-

    <<As of late, in the last several months at least, much rhetoric
      concerning Six Sigma, Employee Involvement, Employee Empowerment, and
      others, have been floating about.

    << Six Sigma is stillborn.  Employee Involvement Program is impotent.
       Employee Empowerment is simply propaganda.

    <<What is going on here, people.  The need for this company to
      effectively compete on the global market is bandied about constantly.  
      Are we really serious though? (as a company)>>
    
    Responding to Boyan's topic, I too have concerns.  After all, my
    economic livelihood, like Boyan's and every other employee, is directly
    tied to maintaining the success of Digital, and building an even more
    successful Digital than what is now.
    
    Too often, however, have I seen employee apathy (managers and
    individual contributors) who don't want to get involved, who don't want
    to assert their ideas to build a better and more successful Digital,
    and who don't want to make changes, for that entails risk, jeopardizing
    personal career interests, like raises, promotions, power and fiefdoms,
    and being perceived as a good team player who makes no waves for
    change.  Too often have I seen real customer satisfaction and real
    employee involvement be regarded as of little concern, where changes to
    improve both have been stifled by bureaucrat managers who put personal
    agenda ahead of Digital and their people, and by individual
    contributors who just don't care enough to take ownership to drive
    change to make Digital more successsful because that's "not their job." 
    Yet, everyone has something they don't like and express it over
    countless lunch table discussions (and VAXnotes conferences, like this
    one, are just lunch tables, only bigger with more people at the table).
    
    Criticism, without accompanying action, is worthless.
    
    In your country where you live, if you don't like a law or action (or
    lack of a law or lack of an action) that you think is adversely
    affecting the country, and you can't get changes at a local level, you
    write a letter expressing your concerns along with your recommended
    actions for change to make things better.  You send your letter to your
    government representatives and even the president of your country
    asking for action.
    
    Similarly, the same should be done in Digital.  Write a memo expressing
    your concerns and list your recommended actions to make things better. 
    In the case of Digital, Ken Olsen is the president and the government
    representative advocating employee involvement is the Corporate
    Employee Involvement Group (e-mail addresses: EMPLOYEE INVOLVEMENT @CFO
    or SOCIAL::INVOLVEMENT).
    
    The Employee Involvement program was chartered directly by the 
    Executive Committee "to make sure that our rapid growth in recent 
    years does not prevent employees' good ideas from being heard."

    Ken Olsen himself even encourages all employees to share their 
    thinking.  In the October 1989 Digital DECWORLD company newsletter 
    sent to our homes, there was a letter to employees from President  Ken
    Olsen.  He said, "We encourage people to express their opinions and to
    therefore help in the formulation of policy."
    
    And as I recollect, I believe I read something in the Digital
    Management Memo about 5 or so months ago that had Jack Smith saying
    something to the effect that any manager, caught putting down any
    employee for submitting his idea to anyone, was out of here.
    
    Digital is NOT going to become more successful with just negative
    criticism and docile employees, who take no further action, who only
    say, "It's THEIR job to make the changes and fix things, not mine." 
    
    Just who is THEY?
    
    I submit that if every employee doesn't start getting REAL involved
    -- supported, encouraged and nurtured by EVERY manager -- then as global
    competition gets REAL FIERCE, we may all be out of here.
    
    But if real employee involvment, participation and creativity IS being
    stifled by some bureaucrats and apathy, then we, all of us, got a
    problem, for it will adversely affect our future and our ability to
    compete effectively and successfully worldwide.
    
    And if you can't make a change locally because of such apathy, then,
    like influencing government, you must stand up, and express your
    concerns and ideas in writing, and send it.
    
    Now, to answer those who are saying, "Yeah, did you do what your
    preaching?"  Enclosed is one of my memos I sent -- anyone has my
    permission to copy and forward and post anywhere to anyone, this
    VAXnotes reply and the copy of my memo imbedded, doing anything you
    want with it.  Whether you like or dislike what I wrote is not
    relevant.  What is important is that I took "lunch table concerns" and
    translated them into action.  If you want to get changes incurred, you
    must get involved.
    
    If you don't get involved, you cannot affect change.
    

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     24-Oct-1989 01:58pm EST
                                        From:     David Carnell @ALF
                                                  CARNELL.DAVID
                                        Dept:     SOA CS Proposals Sup Grp
                                        Tel No:   385-2901/404772-2901

    TO:  Remote Addressee                     ( KEN OLSEN @MLO )

    CC:  Remote Addressee                     ( ANN JENKINS @MLO ) CC: 
         Remote Addressee                     ( EMPLOYEE INVOLVEMENT @CFO )

    Subject: An employee suggestion for a vision and true empowerment

    President John Kennedy galvanized our nation with the vision of 
    America putting the first man on the moon.  With Japan having  eight of
    the largest corporations in the world, it seems that some  corporate
    leader in America should establish a vision and mission  of America
    having THE most successful and largest corporation in  the world, using
    new methods that take quantum leaps over the  traditional American
    business school approaches in order to ensure  the attainment of that
    vision and goal.

    I would like to suggest the benefits of having Digital, as the  leading
    information technology company in America and the world,  taking this
    vision, galvanizing both Digital's employees to higher  cooperative
    levels of success, and America, via adopting new  approaches that will
    demonstrate once more that the United States  offers the best
    innovative leadership in the world.

    If you feel that such a new vision might have merit, I would like  to
    suggest that the avenue to achieving this vision lies in 
    re-establishing some of the esprit de corps that was more present  in
    the Digital of the 60's and 70's where employees perhaps felt  greater
    ownership in building a successful company via perceiving  one was more
    empowered and had more opportunity to have a say in  presenting and
    trying new ideas.

    One method of quickly bringing about greater ownership would be to 
    make every employee truly empowered by giving every direct report 
    employee an equal say in who will be their given group's manager.

    And in order to guarantee continued effective leadership and  coaching
    to ensure higher levels of success and excellence, give  every direct
    report employee annually an equal say in whether the  group, via a vote
    of confidence, will elect to follow the  manager's leadership for their
    given group for another year, or to  elect to get a new person from
    within Digital to be their manager  who can offer more effective
    leadership and coaching.

    By these simple changes in the rules within Digital, all employees 
    would own total responsibility for continuously making proactive 
    decisions and changes to enable the entire organization to more 
    effectively accomplish the vision and goals set by the  representative
    of the stockholders, you as president.

    No longer could any employee say, "It's not me, it's management."   Now
    the employees are responsible for ensuring they have the best 
    leadership for their given group because now the employees have  the
    authority to guarantee THEY are receiving effective leadership  and
    coaching by a person who sees managing as a "calling" to lead  others
    to success, with their success reflective of the success of  their
    direct reports.  

    Through this change in the rules, bureaucracy and professional 
    bureaucrats who put personal agenda, self-aggrandizement and  ambition
    ahead of the success of Digital and their people would be  reduced, if
    not totally eradicated from Digital, thereby  eliminating what may be a
    major inhibitor to total employee  involvement in building more
    effectively a more successful Digital  into the decades ahead.

    Next, to further foster more effective internal "cooperation"  (versus
    personal competitiveness at the expense of other Digital  employees and
    the company), consider making all salary increases  for managers
    contingent on attainment of both business goals PLUS  leadership
    metrics, determined by both a manager's manager and the  manager's
    group of direct reports.

    Then, consider implementing a corporate growth and profit goal,  which
    if obtained, allows every employee to receive a profit  sharing bonus,
    thereby giving all employees further ownership in  the success of
    obtaining Digital's new yearly goals and vision.

    Finally, to accelerate proactive change to increase productivity,  to
    decrease cost and waste, and to more effectively grow products, 
    services, markets, customers, margin and profit, establish  monetary
    rewards to get every empowered employee to think, coming  up with
    effective suggestions and ideas, affecting any part or  action within
    Digital, bringing these benefits into reality.  For  every idea
    implemented, award a monetary award in proportion to  the impact, and
    publicly metric all groups for the number of ideas  created,
    championed, and implemented.

    I believe that almost every employee in Digital will follow you.   Give
    us a fantastic vision and goal, and give us true empowerment,  full
    responsibility and full authority, to achieve that vision and  goal,
    sharing in the success of Digital accordingly as it is  realized.

    To conclude this note reply, that was the memo I sent up, again,
    translating lunch table discussion into action.  I stood up for my
    concerns and ideas, and I get involved in affecting change.
    
    You, each of us individual employees, can make a difference, but  only
    if you, all of us, have the courage to express our ideas, suggestions
    and opinions.

1010.11"BULLETS and BUZZ-WORDS"CSMADM::GLASSThu Jan 18 1990 12:1024
    Very interesting subject matter from a long-time professional who has
    "heard and seen it all", but still refuses to give up on any good or
    new idea that will drive change or foster change artists to step  for-
    ward and be counted!
    
    As for SIX SIGMA, there is a "special and active" notes file at SSVAX::
    SIX_SIGMA on this latest project/program that we know as the way in
    which Motorola positioned itself for and was able to win one(1) of our
    initial Malcolm Baldridge awards(Of course few responded to the 10,000
    applications and no service sector winners have emerged in 2 years!).
    
    Continuous improvement is the goal. Whatever gets such a process
    started is fine as long as the process starts. Be it a zealot, a glib
    consultant, a well designed campaign, buzz-words or empowerment! We
    seem to look at the negative sides of any 'scheme" and not what the
    positive fallout might be from continuous improvement.
    
    The recent Paul Revere "QUALITY HAS VALUE" project lead to a book that
    is titled "Commit to Quality". Get it, read it and internalize the
    thought of 'commit to...." versus the more popular "commitment to...."
    theme that seems to leave out the pepole element.
    
    When our feet are to the fire, we wil..........!
    Tom
1010.12FSDB00::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Thu Jan 18 1990 14:053
I probably don't want to know, but what is/was SIX SIGMA?

Bob
1010.13Dallas?DEC25::BRUNOAn Innocent ManThu Jan 18 1990 14:116
    RE: .12
    
         The fact that you had to ask that question is disturbing
    commentary.
    
                                         Greg
1010.14Six Sigma: Follow-on to Five Sigma?NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerThu Jan 18 1990 14:4212
    re: .13 (re: .12)
    
    I doubt that many (any?) people in my unit could define "SIX SIGMA".
    I, for one, haven't the faintest idea what it is (other than the notion
    that it might somehow be related to quality or somesuch).
    
    re: .12
    
    Gee, Bob, don't you know the answer by now?  You obviously don't "need
    to know".  Get back to work now...  8^(
    
    -- Russ
1010.15FSDB00::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Thu Jan 18 1990 14:543
re: .13

Dallas?  Yes.  Is that good or bad?
1010.16somewhat inside anecdoteHANNAH::LASKOReview often; Test often; Ship onceThu Jan 18 1990 16:332
    I'm sure that everyone in VIPS knows that "Six Sigma" is 99.997%.  
    We all got this letter....:-)
1010.17More Input (Yes, this note DOES belong hereCOMET::MESSAGEHarder&#039;n Chinese AlgebraThu Jan 18 1990 18:3259
    In the last couple years, I have done a large amount of reading
    on the subject of declining American competitiveness/productivity,
    etc., as well as reading on the general malaise of American society.
    
    In my mind, these two seemingly disparate topic types are decidedly
    connected. Read some/all of the books listed, and I think you'd agree.
    
    	"The Closing of the American Mind", Allen Bloom
    	"The Tempting of America", Robert Bork
    	"Quality, Productivity and Competitive Position", W.Edwards Deming
        "Quality Is Free", William Crosby
    	Any of Louis Rukeyser's newspaper editorials
    	Etc.
    
    I have been a Quality professional more than 15 years, and I'm here
    to tell you that DEC is in a large, non-exclusive group of American
    companies that won't/can't seem to get it together to PRODUCE (not
    only design) world-class quality products at a competitive price.
    
    In fact, I was laid off at AMPEX (a maker of professional audio/video
    recorders, etc.) due to increasing competition (SONY) eating AMPEX
    alive. AMPEX, in order to begin to compete with SONY, needed to
    discount it's products up to 40% just to keep from being told to hit
    the road!
    
    Every American industry, from shipbuilding, consumer electronics, 
    automobiles, computer chips, steel, ad nauseum, is being eroded 
    by foriegn manufacturers. Why? There is a wealth of evidence that,
    if industry X isn't careful, country Z's performance will take over
    most, if not all of industry X's market share. I refuse to believe that
    even American industrial managers are stupid enough to believe that,
    "It can't happen to me (us).", but maybe they are.
    
    The way we work at DEC is to hand out oars, and tell EVERYONE to start
    flailing the waters. Meanwhile, some folks have figured out that they
    need to plan, organize, etc., but these are NOT the "people in power"!
    
    Personally, I believe Ken is truly a great leader, but, somehow, the
    professional bureaucrats beneath him, all 337 layers of them, are
    distorting his message and leadership positions. There is potential
    within DEC, as well as most of the rest of American manufacturing, for
    things to be turned around, and America won't lose more than it's fair
    share of markets/market shares.
    
    Every day, time after time. I personally try to help DEC (therefore, 
    American manufacturing) pull away form the precipice of corporate 
    extinction by giving all I've got to performing my job function with
    excellence, as well as demanding and encouraging and coaching for 
    excellence from my peers, subordinates and all other co-workers.
    
    Being human, I sometimes get tired, disgusted, impatient, etc., but
    I NEVER GIVE UP! Commitment to excellence from 100,000-plus individuals
    on a daily, never-ending basis would certainly be ONE, small step
    toward DEC being around for a long time, providing the right products
    to the world.
    
    Bill Message
    
     
1010.18Yea, so I don't know either.. Sue meSTAR::MFOLEYRebel Without a ClueThu Jan 18 1990 23:157
       
       
       
       	Would someone just please answer the question "What is SIX SIGMA?"
       without a smartass answer?  Thanks,
       
       							mike
1010.19European DEC way of WorkingNBOIS2::BLUNKBruce P. Blunk NBOFri Jan 19 1990 06:0042
    The DEC way of Working....! Does this mean the DEC way of working
    in America only?  I liked the comments from Tim Aihara DEC Japan!
    I can assure everyone that the European DEC employees are working
    hard for the success of Digital Equipment Corporation....!
    
    RE: 0
    I am an American Citizen living and working in Europe for several
    years (Nuermberg Germany Office).  I don not agree that the average
    American worker works less than his international competitors. 
    The average German employee has 6 weeks vacation and ca 10 days
    of public (religious) holidays.  I do, however, see a big problem
    in our (American) education system.  Perhaps our priorities in Top
    Management and Government are wrong.
    
    We can compete, if we do it right and perhaps  eliminate rather
    ineffective government regulations concerning export to foreign
    countries.  You wouldn't believe how many VAX's are in East Germany!
    
    This is a quote  from the DEC European Publication; European Technology
    News (Issue 53, Jan 1990):
          From the Feature Section - Europe 1992 
          Assessing the opportunities and strategies:
        "Opportunities exist for US firms in this growing market. In
    fact, one could ask whether US firms are writting the 1992 agenda.
    The experience of US firms in provision of products and services
    in a deregulated environment has prepared them well for the challenges
    of Europe's transitional phasing into a unified market."
        "This is especially true given the continued dominance of large
    technology-driven, multiproduct manufacturers in equipment markets..."
        "Of course, any firms competing in Europe must respect the 'rules
    of the game' in order to take full part in the market.  This requires
    local presence in areas such as R&D and manufacturing, which is
    characteristic of the Europeanized US firms, such as I.. and DIGITAL."
    
    GO FOR IT AMERICA....!
    
    European Technology News is available to DEC employees. They may
    be obtained by sending your name, badge number and location code
    to the Editor (EUROPE::MURITH or Deborah Murith @GEO).
    
    Bruce
    
1010.20DEC25::BRUNOAn Innocent ManFri Jan 19 1990 07:093
    RE: .18
    
                                        No.
1010.21ULTRA::PRIBORSKYAll things considered, I&#039;d rather be rafting.Fri Jan 19 1990 07:4312
    Oh, come on.   Six Sigma is a statistics term.  It's damn hard to draw
    a bell curve on a terminal.  Six sigma is the far right.  The area
    under six sigma is what the 99.997% meant.  It means that 99.997% of
    your things, if you've got six sigma quality control, will be correct.

    It is an agressive goal.   I've seen full-page ads from Motorola about
    their six sigma program in the trade rags.
    
    For more information on statistical quality control, read Deming's
    books, sign up for the Introduction to Deming seminar, and if you can,
    go to his workshop.   I have had dinner with Deming.  It was quite a
    session.
1010.22SIX SIGMAMFGMEM::BENCHFri Jan 19 1990 08:1116
  Briefly, SIX SIGMA is a quality improvement program being 
implemented within SIMG and possibly within other organizations 
in Digital.  The program is based on the Motorola program and was 
introduced to Digital's senior management at a meeting in 
Breckinridge, Colorado.

  SIX SIGMA strives to achieve very low product defect rates by 
improving all stages of the manufacturing process.  Designs are also 
expected to be robust and able to tolerate shifts in the manufacturing 
process mean.

  Aside from the technical approach, SIX SIGMA is supposed to foster 
an attitude whereby all individuals strive to constantly improve their
own individual job performances.

Claude   
1010.23Top Down solutionsISLNDS::BAHLINFri Jan 19 1990 09:0812
    It's interesting that so few people know what Six Sigma is (as a
    program or a statistical term).   It seems to me that it is another
    stillborn half executed strategy if we don't have more people that
    know what it is (and isn't).
    
    Frankly, I know more about the program at Motorla than I do about
    the program at Digital.   And, I have never read a single book or
    article on the 'application of statistics in the management of
    business' (SPC) that didn't endlessly recite the need for total
    management commitment if one desires a successful execution of the
    program.    Why don't we (executioners, I presume) know what
    it is?
1010.24Please explain yourselves before using specialised terminologyMARVIN::COCKBURNPromoting International UnityFri Jan 19 1990 13:5519
 I do not know what Six Sigma is either, even though I studied maths for 6 
 years (in the UK and the US) and then 2 years at University. I have never 
 come across the term before.

 I agree with the a previous reply, PLEASE give a reasonable explanation of
 what this obviously important programme is about with out giving smartass
 answers. We can't all have brains the size of planets. Not all of us have
 PhD's in Statistical theory either. Reply .20 is nice and helpful, I must
 say !!

 How you can deduce 99.997 from the term SIX SIGMA is completely beyond my
 comprehension unless you are psychic, telepathic, have a degree in stats or
 have read the memo. Since most of the audience are none of the first three,
 can you give a reasonable explanation or post the original memo detailing 
 the programme announcement.

	thanks,
		Craig.
1010.25Six SigmaISLNDS::HAMERCASWAGFri Jan 19 1990 15:1430
    Six Sigma, in the context of the program for producing virtually
    perfect products, is **not** 99.997% good. Six Sigma really means plus
    or minus six standard deviations from the mean under a normal
    distribution, or on the Z Table, 0.000000001. 
    
    Because all processes, regardless of control, are subject to some
    irreducible variation, the Six Sigma program allows for a shifted mean
    of 1.5 sigma bringing the Six Sigma percentage to 99.999995, or about 5
    per million. 
    
    The program relies on careful identification of opportunities for
    defects (defect= anything causing unsatisfied customer, whomever
    customer may be) and then working through a variety of methods with a
    variety of tools for reducing those defects, or the opportunity for
    them to occur, to 5/1,000,000 or better.
    
    It is an exciting program because it is readily and sensibly extended
    to all work, technical, service, support, or you name it. It provides
    people doing all work with a common goal and a common vocabulary to
    made stunning improvements in the quality of their product. It isn't
    stillborn, it isn't unsupported at high levels of the corporation. It
    is a long (over)haul, with the final Six Sigma achievement
    optimistically five years off. 
        
    But journeys of a thousand miles and all that stuff...
    
    There is an interesting and mathphobe-friendly article about it
    in the January, 1990 Business Month magazine. "Stalking Six Sigma".    

    John H. 
1010.26Simple Concepts sometimes are more powerfulCIMNET::MASSEYHide the paint, here&#039;s Gully JimsonFri Jan 19 1990 16:297
    SIX SIGMA means nothing to me.  5 parts per million defects is graphic and
    to the point.  If you want to excite lots of people talk
    parts-per-million or for some who have already achieved this goal
    parts-per-billion as a quality goal.  This is a mind-grabber and
    conveys more information to more people than SIX SIGMA ever will.
    
    Ken
1010.27Letter from Ken Olsen to employees 18-Jan-90ODIXIE::CARNELLDTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALFFri Jan 19 1990 16:4973
Here is the latest letter from Ken Olsen to all employees posted 
in Livewire, 18-Jan-90.  Note especially the last paragraph.  I 
submit KO is behind employee empowerment, involvement and 
creating ideas collectively to build a more successful Digital.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens 
can change the world.  Indeed, it's the only thing that ever 
has."  Quote from Margaret Mead.

Our world is Digital.

Regards,
David

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

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   Our financial position is strong, and today we have the products that we 
 dreamed about a few years ago. We've realigned organizations to let sales
 focus on selling and marketers on marketing. We've put decision-making closer
 to the sales person. We're focusing on accounts. We've made a lot of progress
 in our enterprise integration work. But we could do so much better with the
 excellent products and people we have.
   Remember, customer satisfaction is our paramount goal. We have to focus 
 attention on removing barriers that keep us from doing our very best for our 
 customers.
   We're a big company in a fast-changing industry. Our size is a big advantage
 in terms of all the products, services and experienced people we bring to bear
 to solve the business problems of our customers. But we have to watch our
 costs carefully while not allowing ourselves to get tied up in process. Like a
 seven-foot basketball player, we need to work hard, constantly, to stay in
 shape to be fast and effective. Size is an advantage in this game, but we have
 to be agile, quick and lean.
   We have so many creative people who want to contribute. We have to make sure
 that good ideas are heard and implemented. We have to listen. And we also have
 to speak clearly. We want to enable everyone to focus their collective
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1010.28Act, don't complainPSG::GUPTAFri Jan 19 1990 18:4721
    I am sick and tired of hearing EXCUSES why the Japanese are taking
    over. Blame it on the dumping, blame it on the short sighted Wall
    street, blame it on copying trade secrets....
    
    1) Why does AMERICAN quality suck? Take steel, automotive, cameras,
       semiconductor equipment, home electronics, appliances.
    2) Why are we a nation of information overload? We have more hype
       than what the product or service deserves.
    3) Why are we so arrogant? The customers don't want the "American
       way", they want what is best for THEM.
    4) Why are we, as an economy (and as a culture) so short term focussed?
    5) Why is our productivity on the decline? Germany and Japan are sill
       on the rise.
    6) Why do we as a nation not save? If we spend beyond our means, someone 
       has to finance it. It would be nice if all Japanese financing was coming
       in as productive capital investment (one that contributes to GNP) -
       too bad it is not.
    7) And finally are we just doing our job or trying to exceed our
       goals?
                                                                         
    Anil .
1010.29Not just U (S)JUMBLY::DAYNo Good Deed Goes UnpunishedMon Jan 22 1990 06:4213
    Two small points ...
    
    1. The perceived Japanese threat is not peculiar to the US.
       Have a look at the UK Motorcycle industry/Car Industry/TV ...
    
    2. The sigma discussion. As pointed out, sigma comes from very
       basic statistics - standard normal distribution and so on.
       As not pointed out, 6 sigma could also refer to the extreme
       left of the curve - or supercrudsville if you prefer it that
       way ....
    
    Mike Day
    
1010.30more amplificationMPGS::MCCLUREWhy Me???Mon Jan 22 1990 08:4725
    re .26
    Six sigma is not 5 Parts Per Million. The specifics stated in
    the six sigma training are "3.4 defects per million opportunities".
    The problem is defining 'opportunities' for your piece of the pie.
    I submit that however many thousand opportunities to mess up that
    you may define in manufacturing a PC board, the only measure of
    your success that makes sense is "How many failed to work at the
    customer site?". If you think this out, it is mind boggling.
    
    Re .29
    The training told us about the +/- deviation. For the purposes of
    this program, six sigma represents the total area under the curve
    from + to - six sigma or 99.99nn% of the area.
    
    Incidentally, Motorola is 4 to 4.5 sigma and DEC thinks its at
    3 sigma.
    
    Simply translated to decision makers, you can only be wrong 3.4
    times out of a million decisions 8-).
    
    Incidentally, there is a different definition for software folks.
    Its "defects per thousand lines of code". One of the shuttle
    launch aborts which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, was
    caused by a missing semi-colon. However, they didn't tell us how
    many lines of code were involved in that program. 8-)
1010.31Maybe I'll understand this after I take the courseHANNAH::MESSENGERBob MessengerMon Jan 22 1990 10:4821
Re: .30

As applied to software, the idea of having a .003% or whatever defect rate
seems just silly to me.  Customer satisfaction depends on more than just
"bugs per line of code".  It also depends on providing the features people
are asking for in order to achieve the customers' goals.  Since each customer
has his/her own goals, we can never hope to write software that will satisfy
99.997+% of all customers.

As you pointed out, even assuming we've chosen to implement the right set of
functions, "bugs per line of code" is still more or less meaningless; it
depends on what the bugs are.  A bug that one customer considered minor might
make the software worthless as far as another customer was concerned.

The VIPS letter mentioned earlier said that not only would we achieve
99.997% quality, but we'd also reduce product development cycles by 50%.  The
only way I can see us achieving both goals is if VIPS decided to sell nothing
but VT320s from now on: if we keep engineering the exact same product, maybe
eventually we'll get it right. ;^)

				-- Bob
1010.32U.S. companies realize the problems...now they just have to start doing domething about them.CELICA::SANTOROYour grasp should always be farther than your reachMon Jan 22 1990 12:34101
RE .28

To take a cut at answering some of your questions...

>    1) Why does AMERICAN quality suck? Take steel, automotive, cameras,
>       semiconductor equipment, home electronics, appliances.

There are many reasons why quality and productivity in this country
are not as good as in other countries. The high cost of capital, too much focus
on short-term ROI, too little focus on process technology developement, 
management/labor conflict/complacency attitudes, I could go on. These are not 
excuses but just some facts that have long been identified as 'problems' in 
U.S. competitiveness.  However, I think the biggest problem the industry
has to overcome is dealing with the continual decline in the pool of 
skilled workers in this country.  The sad fact is that not only are less younger
people coming into the workforce due to the last of baby boomers moving into
middle age, but the few that are coming into the workforce are even more
uneducated and untrained than ever.  It'd be tough enough trying to regain
a competitive edge with a superbly trained workforce let alone one that 
continually lags behind every one of our major competitors.  

I'm not just talking about the workers at the lower levels of the company 
either, the lack of an education effects a company at all levels; at the 
factory floor, in the cubicles, and in the offices with doors.  Anywhere from 
10 to 20% of our 17 year olds can barely read at the 8th grade level let alone
excell in math and science.  Less and less people are graduating with 
engineering and technical degrees, and many of today's managers are still
too complacent in their old ways of doing business and in relating to their 
employees.  All of this has to change before the U.S. can hope to again
be known for it's quality, cost effective products.

We need the 'Education President' we were all promised to finally stand up and 
start putting more effort and investment into education in this country.  
Corporations have
to begin investing heavily in internal education and training programs
and also increase thier cooperation with community schools, technical schools,
and universities to develop programs for long-range fundamental and specialized
skills development.  

DEC has long believed education and training to be important and has what I 
believe to be one of the better in-house training programs.  It stands to be
a bit more focused but at least everyone in the company has (or should have)
the opportunity to gain the skills they need to be more effective, flexible
and productive.

>    2) Why are we a nation of information overload? We have more hype
>       than what the product or service deserves.

The U.S has long been putting too much enphasis on the marketing and selling
of product and not on the processes involved and designing and building product.
But no matter how well you market or try to sell a product, no one will buy it
if it is a piece of junk.  This again is finally being realized by many of
today's manufactures.  For many years DEC was at the other end of the 
spectrum..."a quality product is all that is needed, it will sell itself"
was quoted many a time, marketing and sales were never really focused upon.
A better position, maybe, but still far from the most effective attitude. 
Full cooperation and integration between manufacturing, marketing and sales
is necessary.

>    3) Why are we so arrogant? The customers don't want the "American
>       way", they want what is best for THEM.

It's mindset that has been ingrained into the heads of us for years.  I believe
it is finally changing....just not fast enough.

>    4) Why are we, as an economy (and as a culture) so short term focussed?

Economic and cultural shortsightedness can probably be explained by that fact
everyone over the years had become obsessed with everything fast; fast growth,
the fast tract, fast food, fast cars...the mindset built up over
many years and especially in the financial community, is very difficult to 
reverse.  Wall st. punishes companies that sacrifice short-term profits
for long term strategies.  This forces managers to take short-cuts in
process and product development.  A cycle that is though to break and can't
be done overnight.

>    5) Why is our productivity on the decline? Germany and Japan are sill
>       on the rise.

For the many reasons I've already stated.

>    6) Why do we as a nation not save? If we spend beyond our means, someone 
>       has to finance it. It would be nice if all Japanese financing was coming
>       in as productive capital investment (one that contributes to GNP) -
>       too bad it is not.

We used to save as a nation but not anymore, Easily available credit (credit 
cards, car loans, etc..) and the consumer generation has seen to that. The
saving rate of this country is directly responsible for the high cost of 
capital that keeps our companies from being able to cheaply finance new
investment into new and innovative process technologies, training programs,
and R&D.  I'd personally love to see credit cards done away with and the
return to deductable retirement savings, but those are just simple-minded 
approaches to the bigger problem of changing the attitudes of everyone
in this country.

>    7) And finally are we just doing our job or trying to exceed our
>       goals?

I think way too many people today are just doing the former.
1010.33REGENT::POWERSTue Jan 23 1990 14:3924
> < Note 1010.31 by HANNAH::MESSENGER "Bob Messenger" >
> -< Maybe I'll understand this after I take the course >-

Yes, you will, because.....

> As applied to software, the idea of having a .003% or whatever defect rate
> seems just silly to me.  Customer satisfaction depends on more than just
> "bugs per line of code".  It also depends on providing the features people
> are asking for in order to achieve the customers' goals.  

...and this is, indeed, part of the quality process.  
A great deal of "Quality" is really just applying what we learned as
students of engineering, business, sales, whatever.  Designing
to accommodate variation in the manufacturing process (mfg's 3 sigma and 
eng's 3 sigma being 6 sigma) is so obvious I've often wondered how
people like Deming and Taguchi could become famous for pointing it out.

In large measure, it comes down to getting out of the sand box and paying
more than lip service to the rigor (bureaucarcy, if you will) that we
have all been taught as applying to each of our disciplines.

Number one on the list:  SOLVE THE RIGHT PROBLEM.

- tom] (recent veteran of one six sigma offering)
1010.34It's Probably Too LateMSCSSE::LENNARDWed Jan 24 1990 09:5219
    There's not enough storage on this system to list all the things that
    would have to be done to start the turn-around.
    
    The absolute frightening level of ignorance of far too many Americans
    of the world around us is a major contributing factor to our decline. 
    I sat in a business meeting yesterday next to a "professional", who
    did not know what country Budapest was in.  We were discussing East
    Bloc business potential.
    
    We will clearly be a second-rate power by the year 2000.  All of our
    major financial institutions and most manufacturing companies will be
    foreign-owned by then.
    
    If I could do one thing, I would turn our shameful primary and
    secondary education systems around.  I would fund it at exactly the
    same level as "defense".  I would also to a large extent get the
    local yahoos out of the decision-making loop on education.  An educated
    youth is a national resource far too valuable to leave up to town
    meeting decisions and local school boards.
1010.35It's all in the mind...folks...STRIKE::KANNANWed Jan 24 1990 15:3222
 >> If I could do one thing, I would turn our shameful primary and
 >> secondary education systems around.  I would fund it at exactly the
 >> same level as "defense".  I would also to a large extent get the
 >> local yahoos out of the decision-making loop on education.  An educated
 >> youth is a national resource far too valuable to leave up to town
 >> meeting decisions and local school boards.

  IMHO, throwing more money at the problem of school education is not going
  to help one bit. There's got to be a sea-change in the attitude of the society
  as a whole. When a kid who is interested in Math and Science is considered
  as a "Nerd" or socially unacceptable while an athlete is considered a hero
  (Don't get me wrong, I am not against sports, only for it to be considered
  for what it is really worth in a new world where wars are being fought 
  on Industrial production and economics). When it's "cool" to be
  studious you can produce extremely good products out of the schools even
  with half the facilities currently available. I ought to know. I come from
  a country with extremely poor resources for education. Schools in this
  country now have facilities comparable to some institutions of higher learning
  elsewhere in the world (libraries, laboratories, computers etc..). There's
  absolutely no excuse. It's just a question of attitudes and motivation.
  Being a developed country leads to complacency and slackening after a while,
  I guess. 
1010.36But more funding wouldn't hurt.SCAM::GRADYtim gradyWed Jan 24 1990 16:568
    Still, it is shameful what little value we place on education as
    demonstrated by the typical salary scale of our teachers.  We can't
    expect to attract the best teachers when we offer the worst rewards.
    
    Teachers should be paid more.  There is no reason why the person
    teaching me how to better my career in computers should be routinely
    making less money than me.
    
1010.37close rathole pleaseCVG::THOMPSONMy friends call me AlfredWed Jan 24 1990 17:014
    This in not the place to discuss the state of education in the
    US. Sorry but there are other better forums for that discussion.
    
    			Alfred
1010.38I wonder what a teacher in Japan earnsVMSDEV::HALLYBThe Smart Money was on GoliathWed Jan 24 1990 17:413
.36>    Teachers should be paid more.  There is no reason why the person
    
    Looks like someone needs to learn the law of supply and demand.
1010.39Interesting Story...STRIKE::KANNANThu Jan 25 1990 14:5080
   Here's a story that came floating around from someone in DIGITAL. It clearly
   brings home the point about getting lost in technology while the real task
   of providing solutions for customers goes ignored.

   Enjoy!

   Nari

 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------


        
                        THE PARABLE OF THE TOOL BUILDERS
        
        
        
        Once upon a time, there was a great and wealthy nation by the 
        name of Latigid that built its wealth by providing stone to its 
        neighboring countries.  Previously, the citizens of these 
        neighboring  countries depended on their own government to take 
        the large, monolithic stone and to break it into smaller sizes 
        with which the citizens would then build their homes.  Latigid 
        was able to develop a process which allowed them to export small 
        stone economically to the citizens of these neighboring 
        countries.  With this capability, home building flourished and 
        Latigid became a wealthy nation.  
        
        As time passed, other nations were able to replicate Latigid's 
        process, and in some cases, were able to produce and export even 
        smaller and more economical stone.  Seeing their dominance in 
        this market place eroding, the leaders of Latigid decided that 
        they would not only export stone, but even more valuably would 
        assist the citizens of these neighboring countries in building 
        their homes.  "After all, that was the business they should 
        really be in." And so a great effort was mobilized to develop 
        the talents necessary to be successful in this home-building 
        market.  
        
        It was also decided that the stone salesmen would be the ones 
        who would now offer this new service.  Over time, they reasoned, 
        the declining stone sales would be more than offset by the 
        increasing home building sales, and so it made perfect sense to 
        use the same salespeople to offer both. 
        
        Whereupon, the craftsmen of Latigid proceeded to develop their 
        art for export to these other countries -- architects, 
        carpenters, stone masons -- each with their own specialty.  And 
        being a truly open society, each craftsman in turn, approached 
        the salesmen and discussed how their tools would help construct 
        the homes of the neighboring countries.  As time passed, this 
        endless procession continued, each craftsman describing how 
        their tool was the best suited to construct the homes of their 
        foreign neighbors.
        
        It also happened that in those few instances where home building 
        services were actually sold, the salespeople were not able to 
        deliver the necessary resources, because it appears the 
        craftsmen were much more interested in designing tools and 
        promoting their quality, than they were in building anything 
        with them.  At last, frustrated by the lack of support and 
        thoroughly confused by the multiplicity of tools, the salesmen, 
        each in their own way, quietly withdrew their support and 
        continued selling their stone.
        
        Whenever other craftsmen heard of this lack of success, they 
        reasoned that surely the reason for failure was the poor tools, 
        and so, decided to develop yet another set of tools and tried to 
        convince the salesmen that theirs were the best tools to build 
        homes with.  In the meantime, a curious thing happened -- so 
        many people were developing tools that this great nation 
        collapsed from inattention to internal matters, economic strain 
        and dissension amongst the craftsmen as to whose tools were the 
        best.  The heads of foreign governments remarked how strange it 
        was that such a great nation had collapsed so suddenly.  "I 
        don't understand," said one of these government officials, "why 
        they never understood that what we really needed were 
        home-building services and not stones." 


1010.40SCARY::M_DAVISMarge Davis HallyburtonThu Jan 25 1990 17:186
    re -.1:
    
    Ties nicely with Ken's parable of the restaurants.  Check it out in the
    January Management Memo, volume 9, #1.  
    
    mdh
1010.41Maybe someone can relate the parable?NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerFri Jan 26 1990 11:578
    re: .40
    
    *sigh*
    
    This would be much easier to do if it were made available to us...
    
    -- Russ (who has seen just one issue of MGMT MEMO in the almost three
    years I've been here)
1010.42make you manager read MGMT MEMO todayCVG::THOMPSONMy friends call me AlfredFri Jan 26 1990 14:2626
	If you aren't seeing MGMT MEMO or at least getting a summary in
	some staff meeting then it sounds like you boss isn't doing their
	job. Topic for an other note perhaps.

	Anyway Ken's story talked about a resterant where when people placed
	an order for any not pachaged item the waiter had to negotiate
	with all the different cooks about it. He had to figure out who
	did would work and got what credit. "Woods meetings" were held
	to work things out. I assume deviding the tips got real complicated.
	While this was going on the customer went hungry.

	The customer doesn't want to be involved in all this. He just wants
	his food. It goes on and on like this. It really does sound like the
	way DEC dues business but in the context of a resterant the sillyness
	is obvious.

	 Bug your manager to let you read it. That's even better than you just 
	reading it here or somewhere else. Why is that better? Because if enough 
        of a managers people ask to read something *they* are likely to read it 
	themselves. I'll bet a lot of managers don't read theirs (Sorry R.S. sad 
	but true).

	KO's article is one of the best things I've seen in MGMT MEMO in a 
	long time. Make your manager read it.

			Alfred
1010.43ULTRA::GONDAIs this a PARACHUTE or what?Fri Jan 26 1990 14:2765
�          <<< Note 1010.37 by CVG::THOMPSON "My friends call me Alfred" >>>
�                    -< close rathole please >-
�
�    This in not the place to discuss the state of education in the
�    US. Sorry but there are other better forums for that discussion.
    
    Well since DEC has started this program in Education I think 
    that Education is a relevant issue for this conference.  See
    the Livewire listing attacted.
    
 Digital - 'Engineers into Education' program offers career change opportunity
	{Livewire, 23-Jan-90}  
   Digital is offering a small number of employees in the U.S. the opportunity 
 to change careers and go into teaching. The MEM pilot program, "Engineers into
 Education," will provide some employees who are re-evaluating their career
 directions with an additional option. At the same time, it will help some
 communities deal with the growing shortage of qualified mathematics,
 chemistry, physics and computer science teachers. The program is primarily
 intended for those individuals who in mid-career feel motivated to give their
 time and effort to the community through teaching; and who, with financial and
 other support to help them through a period of change, could manage with the
 lower levels of income common to the teaching profession. Support available
 from Digital (the "Education Bridge Package") includes counseling, the
 opportunity to maintain certain benefits coverage for a fixed period of time,
 a lump-sum financial package based on the number of years worked for Digital
 and help with tuition for teacher preparation and certification courses. In
 April, the first phase of the program, "Explore Education," will help eligible
 employees decide if a career as a math or science teacher is appropriate for
 them. This phase will be conducted by a local education consortium of public
 schools over a 10-week period. The first two weeks will be held in a local
 school district. Employees can participate in this part of the program without
 obligation. During the 10 weeks of Explore Education, those who decide they
 actually wish to leave Digital for a career in teaching may do so by electing
 the second phase of the program, the Education Bridge Package. March 9, 1990
 is the deadline for applying for the program. Applicants must meet the
 following eligibility criteria: 
  o apply and submit all necessary materials;
  o have at least a bachelor's degree in engineering, mathematics, physics, 
    chemistry or computer science from an accredited college or university;
  o work in MEM (Manufacturing, Engineering and Marketing);
  o work in Massachusetts or New Hampshire; and
  o have a 1, 2 or 3 rating in their last performance review.
  
 Following completion of the pilot, the program will be extended to other 
 organizations and geographies within the company. Whenever there are more
 eligible applicants than opportunities, applicants will be selected in the
 following order:
  o first, those who have been designated as "available" under a formal 
    transition program;
  o then, those with the most company seniority, defined by total length of 
    service with Digital.
  
 Informational presentations will be conducted at Digital sites in
 Massachusetts and New Hampshire in February and March:
	Feb. 5, 1:30-3:30 p.m., General Doriot Auditorium, MLO4-5
	Feb. 12, 9:30-11:30 a.m. and 1:30-3:30 p.m., Babbage Auditorium, 
			Spitbrook Road (ZKO)
  
 The following three sessions will all be held in the MRO3 Amphitheater, 
 Marlboro:
	Feb. 15, 1:30-3:30 p.m.; Feb. 16, 9:30-11:30 a.m.; Feb. 23, 9:30-11:30
			a.m.  
 
 Additional information is available on videotex (to access, type VTX EEP at
 the system prompt), or contact Burt Goodrich, DTN 223-3603 (RDVAX::EDUCATION).
1010.44WMOIS::FULTIFri Jan 26 1990 15:177
Can you believe it? Digital expects that there are engineers willing to 
give up their careers and go into teaching....
I don't know for sure but I suspect that any engineer here in DEC is making
at least twice what any school system would be able to pay. Isn't that the
reason for the shortage of qualified teachers to begin with?

- George
1010.45They will!SIVA::ELMERFri Jan 26 1990 15:3523
    Perhaps there are some DEC engineers who would cherish the thought of
    teaching in the secondary school system....and perhaps $$ money $$
    becomes secondary after a while.....
    
    I "expect" that there will be a modest response to this program
    particularly from those engineers who:
         o  need a change
         o  are financially secure for the long haul
         o  want to make a significant contribution to education
         o  want to enjoy something
         o  want to have "customer contact" on a daily basis
         o  WANT TO HAVE FUN.
    
    I applaud the concept and the program.  Massachusetts really needs
    something injected into its educational system besides mediocrity.
    
    The American university system was based on the "industry/school"
    partnership.  MIT, Carnegie Inst of Tech (old name), and Rensselaer
    were founded on the endowments of industry; designed to promote
    engineering as a discipline and a profession.  I believe a similar
    approach can and should be considered for the secondary school system.
    
    RICK
1010.46Average teaching salaries in U.S.PHAROS::DMCLUREYour favorite MartianFri Jan 26 1990 19:459
re: .44,

> I don't know for sure but I suspect that any engineer here in DEC is making
> at least twice what any school system would be able to pay.

	See note 475.2 for statistics which also include average high school
    teaching salaries for every state in the U.S. (complete with rankings).

				    -davo
1010.47KO's restaurant story and surrounding articleCVG::THOMPSONMy friends call me AlfredMon Jan 29 1990 08:53186
	Posted with permission from MGMT MEMO. Please note that it
	is clearly marked for DIGITAL INTERNAL USE only and not for
	sharing outside the company.

*********************************************


DIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLY

from MGMT MEMO Jan. 1990, based on speech delivered at State of 
the Company Meeting, Nov. 16, 1989

STATE OF THE COMPANY ADDRESS
by Ken Olsen, president

By all traditional measures, we are doing well.  We are growing 
and are profitable, like the best of the big companies.  In terms 
of cash flow, even in Q1, which was our slow summer quarter, we 
ended up with $180 million positive cash flow.  We also are 
investing $1.5 billion this year in new product development and 
are budgeted to invest $1.2 billion in capital expenditures.  

By those measures, we are doing well.  But considering the assets 
we have, we are doing poorly.  

We have the best products by far.  We can say today, "Digital has 
it all."  We have everything from the simple terminal to the 
supercomputer.  Those products which we dreamed of and planned 
for two and three years ago, we have today.  They are beautiful.  

Much of the computer industry is in serious trouble.  If you look 
at the list of computer companies, very few have a significant 
operating system, or the products to go with it.  The future for 
most of them is very bleak.  And we have it all.  And yet, we are 
not selling anywhere near as much as we should.  We are not 
growing like we should and not getting the marketshare that we 
should.

Phil Caldwell, our director and formerly of Ford, said we have 
done the hard part.  It takes years of investment to build up the 
staff to generate the products, and to be able to deliver them, 
sell them and service them.  He said the easy part should be to 
market and sell them. 

But how do we do that?

If you go into a fine restaurant, all your contact is with the 
maitre d'. The maitre d' takes care of all your wishes without a 
hassle.  There are chefs and many people to serve you, but you 
don't notice them.  It is a pleasant evening, and you look 
forward to coming back again.  That's the way it should be.

But instead of operating like that, we follow modern management 
techniques learned in business school.  Service is way down the 
list of priorities.  The most important thing is to measure 
everybody because, obviously, you get what you measure.  

In the other restaurant, nobody knows how many chefs there are.  
But in this restaurant, there is a meat chef, a fish chef, a 
salad chef, a pastry chef, a dessert chef and a wine steward.  
And the important thing is to measure each one.  

Then, some customers, who are used to the other restaurant, 
nicely ask the maitre d' if could they could have a piece from 
that item and mix it with this one, and they would like one side 
of the steak cooked well and the other side not as much.  In this 
restaurant, they use "process" for making decisions.  So the 
maitre d' goes back and negotiates with all the chefs, and there 
is an argument about who will get what share.  They hold "woods 
meetings" to talk about it.  Then the maitre d' comes back and 
explains the problem.  Meanwhile, the people are getting hungry.

The customer just wants a meal.  He only wants to deal with the 
maitre d'.  He doesn't want to get in the middle of contests 
between all the different people who are measured.

We have to remember that the measurement is not the reason we are 
in business.  The process of developing consensus and making 
decisions is not the main reason we are here.

In the other restaurant, the customer never notices the six 
people who quietly serve.  In this one, they are all vying to be 
the one who serves, and they argue whose right it is to serve 
whom, even though the customer doesn't care.  

In this restaurant, when it comes to billing, the finance 
department won't allow the waiter to bring the bill until the 
customer signs that he accepted everything.  By then, the 
customer doesn't even want to remember what he bought and what 
changes he made.  

That's the way many customers look at us.  We try to tell them 
how beautiful this way of operating is -- that it is process that 
counts.  We explain why we wouldn't want them to pay us unless 
they signed for it first.  We explain why we wouldn't want them 
to get the equipment, unless everybody in the organization had 
their share of the order and had their lawyers argue with one 
another.  

Some people believe in process like a religion.  With process you 
don't have to know anything about customers or service or 
products.  You simply follow the process.  But, unfortunately, 
the more you are devoted to process, the farther you get from the 
customer's real needs.   

Last night I called Jack Smith and I said, "Jack, Pete Zotto has 
a DECWORLD all planned for Boston in second week of July next 
summer.  How do you want to make this decision?"  He said, "Oh, 
quit this process stuff, Ken.  Just do it."  And he was right.

Generally, at Digital, we would talk about a project like that 
for nine months.  July would be over if we followed that process.  
So DECWORLD is on for July.        

Sometimes people complain that it takes forever to get a decision 
on a proposal.  But far too often, the people making the 
proposals don't state them clearly.  They present all the data 
and assume the committee will ask the right question.  Instead, 
they should pose their question in a way that can be answered 
with a simple yes or no, and make clear who is going to be 
responsible for the project.  

Before Jack Smith took over Engineering, Engineering was in 
trouble.  We had had five years with no major new products.  One 
time we had a woods meeting to analyze our products, I looked 
around and saw that the people there were all staff people -- no 
product development people.  We had gotten so caught up in 
process that people who knew nothing about technical matters were 
making decisions about products.  

From then on, we promoted the people who were running product 
development, and now we are on top of the world in terms of 
products.  But the rest of the organization is still in love with 
process.  

Process, when carried to extremes, means we take our best sales 
people and make them staff people -- at district or area --  and 
because they are good, they want to control everything.  

Process people often measure their success by how thick the 
proposal is. They make pie charts because their personal computer 
makes pie charts.  But they have no message to get across.
Many of the committee meetings and staff meetings we hold aren't 
really needed because we have no clear questions to resolve.  If 
the question was clear, we could give an answer -- yes or no -- 
without all those presentations.  

Process people need consensus to make decisions; and every time 
they look for consensus, the process gets bigger. 

I will tell you how you run "consensus."  Jack Smith says, "We're 
making this change.  This manager moves over here, and that one 
over there.  Now let's have a meeting and get consensus about 
it."  He makes the important decision, and then they talk about 
what they are going to do.

At a drill company which was doing very well financially, the 
chairman told his top managers, "We're in trouble.  People don't 
buy our products."  The sales manager, the chief engineer, and 
others objected, "But we are doing so well."  He said, "Yes.  But 
people don't want drills, they want holes.  If you insist on 
selling drills, you are never going to get the point."
  
Likewise, people don't buy networks or computers.  They have 
problems to solve. 

We have to get away from process issues and change our mindset.  
Instead of explaining our internal processes to customers, we 
should be focusing on solving customer problems.

For 32 years, we have sold computer hardware and software.  We 
have to move beyond that now and tell our customers, "We'll solve 
your problem."  

We have to give up the processes to which we have become devoted, 
and act like the first restaurant where the maitre d' makes the 
decisions that satisfy the customer.  We have to let our sales 
people stand on their feet and make a deal.  Our process just 
keeps us from simply telling the customer, "We have a solution 
for your problem." 

Today, our message is "we truly have an architecture."  It covers 
the whole problem for any customer.  We've  got the hard part 
done.  Now let's solve the easy part, which is to satisfy the 
customer.

1010.48Where are we today....STRIKE::KANNANTue Jan 30 1990 11:4753
  Here's something more to chew on. Note the entry of Japanese firms into the 
  top 10. It seems that they weren't there about five years ago. IMHO,
  If DIGITAL doesn't think really long-term in terms of Information Management 
  Services or at least solutions and is happy with producing more RISC machines 
  and Version 25.190 of DECNet, it could lose its position. There is a good
  chance that EUROPE 1992 might produce formidable competitors with technology
  from Western Europe and an inexpensive well-educated labor force from Eastern
  Europe. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


              COPIED FROM THE JAPAN TIMES, DECEMEBER 15, 1989:

NEW YORK (Kyodo) Five major Japanese computer makers were among the world's 
top 20 computer producers in 1988 in terms of sales, according to an 
announcement made Wednesday by Arthur D. Little, a leading U.S. consulting 
firm.

  The announcement said Fujitsu placed third, NEC Corp. fifth and Hitachi 
sixth among the top 20.

  Toshiba Corp. and Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. also joined the top 20 
for the first time, placing 13th and 17th.

  The consulting firm, based in Cambridge, Massachusetts, predicts that 
annual sales by the top 20 firms will only grow by 8 percent to 10 percent 
over the next five years since the global general-purpose computer market is 
already saturated.

  Firms without international competitiveness and with outdated machinery and 
equipment will definitely drop from the list and be forced to either merge  or 
be bought out, the report said.

  Japanese computer makers will likely outstrip their U.S. and European 
competitors due to their long-term strategies and strong positions in the 
semiconductor and communications markets, it said.

  The following are the top 10 firms as rated by Arthur D. Little, with 
parentheses showing nationality:

     1.  IBM Corp.               (U.S.)
     2.  Digital Equipment Corp. (U.S.)
     3.  Fujitsu                 (Japan)
     4.  Unisys Corp.            (U.S.)
     5.  NEC Corp.               (Japan)
     6.  Hitachi                 (Japan)
     7.  Hewlett-Packard Co.     (U.S.)
     8.  Siemens AG              (West Germany)
     9.  NCR Corp                (U.S.)
     10. Group Bull              (joint venture between Bull S.A. of France, 
                                  Honeywell of the U.S. and NEC of Japan)
1010.49Lack of MGMT MEMO illustrates part of the problem...NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerTue Jan 30 1990 13:5249
    re: .42 (reading MGMT MEMO)
    
    FWIW :
    
    o I've been here almost 3 years.
    o I've reported to 3 different managers (4 if you count an interim mgr
      for two months, 5 if you count one person whose been my manager twice
      already).
    o I've seen MGMT MEMO once (that I recall -- about two and a half years
      ago).
    o We've had maybe six unit meetings in the three years.
    
    My point:  It's not just one manager, but a significant portion system
               which is busted!
    
    In the field, sharing a single physical document is absurd.  We aren't
    in the same physical location.  We can't afford to take off billable
    time to come to the office (which may be WAY out of the way) to read a
    document periodically -- especially when we don't know when it comes in
    or what's in it.  Sharing a document in a unit meeting is likewise
    inefficient.  Meetings occur every 3-6 months (maybe -- can't lose them
    billable hours, ya know...).  Trying to get 8-12 people up to snuff on
    however many MGMT MEMOs in a few minutes just doesn't happen.
    
    Being in the field means that you are in the outer darkness of Digital. 
    Information falls like crumbs from the divine New England table.  If
    your manager is good, he/she will be able to gather enough crumbs to
    assemble something which resembles a meal.  If your manager is not so
    good, you can prepare for information starvation.
    
    Ken's restaurant story is quite interesting.  It is a story of factions
    and frictions which prevent service from occurring.  Well, the MGMT
    MEMO information is a good example of the breakdown.  I know that many
    of my coworkers could identify with the restaurant parable;
    unfortunately, many of them will never read it in MGMT MEMO (however,
    since it is now posted here and I happen to be the self-appointed NEWS
    editor & publisher for my district, I will correct that VERY SOON!
    I'm not one to lay down and die, -- I do the best I can to keep the
    information flowing -- but there is a clog up the pipe and there's no
    way to snake out the clog from underneath!)
    
    Wouldn't Ken be interested to know that his restaurant is so loused up
    that the busboys don't even know that the head manager wants to improve the
    restaurant's service...?  8^(
    
    We'll never improve our service if the service providers aren't even
    kept in the loop!
    
    -- Russ
1010.50 Willing information surpression??THEWAV::PFLUEGERComplex nonsolutions to simple nonproblemsWed Jan 31 1990 19:2517
    re: .49 (Russ on Mgmt Memo and the field)

    I agree whole-heartedly.  In the SWA, info. of this kind is not "put out
    to the troops" (can you say surpressed? I knew you could ;^).  

    I guess  we're just too busy bringing in revenue to be concerned. Ya,
    that's it! Just do your job and we'll tell you what you need to know.
    Gee, I think I'll just leave it the the bean-counters to figure out
    how to "fix the course".

    Set mode/sarcastic=off

    The only practicle way this is going to be overcome, is through the efforts
    of individual who want ther fellow workers to be informed, and pass the 
    word(s) to them.  Control of information is power; just ask the Chinese.

                                     =Jp=
1010.51Job security?ULTRA::GONDADECelite: Pursuit of Knowledge, Wisdom, and Happiness.Wed Jan 31 1990 20:424
    MGMT MEMO rathole,  what I don't understand is that if it is to be
    ``shared by employees'' then why don't they cut the crap and put it 
    in maybe Livewire and some other such electronic/hardcopy bulletins 
    form where it can also be more accessible!
1010.52CVG::THOMPSONMy friends call me AlfredThu Feb 01 1990 09:095
	RE: .51 A usually reliable source indicates that MGMT MEMO may
	be coming to VTX in the future. The problems are more of resources
	than politics.

				Alfred
1010.53What is MGMT MEMOZPOV01::HWCHOYSo many Men, so few Brains.Thu Feb 01 1990 10:4212
    Can someone please explain the purpose of this "MGMT MEMO", who is to
    receive them, what are they supposed to do with them.
    
    My country (Singapore, Far East) obviously have never received such a
    beast. I forwarded the memo to all Sales and SWS, and the response is
    overwhelming. Including line managers who comes to me and ask me how I
    managed to lay my hands on such good stuffs.
    
    This company may have a bigger problem than people in the good old US
    of A suspect.
    
    HW (excuse me, Ken WHO!?)
1010.54RE: MGMT MEMOCVG::THOMPSONMy friends call me AlfredThu Feb 01 1990 11:3711
	From the front page of MGMT MEMO:

	"MGMT MEMO" is written by Corporate Employee Communication for the
	Office of the President. It is written for Digital's managers and
	supervisors to help them understand and communicate business information
	to their employees.

	It is sent to all managers and supervisors in the US at least I
	don't know about elsewhere.

			Alfred 
1010.55please shareODIXIE::CARNELLDTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALFThu Feb 01 1990 12:299
    
    Ref 1010.54
    
    Alfred,
    
    You forgot to mention the most important part that says please share
    with your employees!
    
    
1010.56DEC - Global company - in fact but not in spiritZPOV01::HWCHOYSo many Men, so few Brains.Thu Feb 01 1990 21:319
    re .53
    
    I think this company still has a lot of USA-orientedness embedded in
    people's thinking. Why can't this simple thing as distributing MGMT
    MEMO (and by what it claims, should be distributed to ALL, not just US)
    be done properly? I'm tired, I'm really tired... 
    
    hw (flame me if u want)
    
1010.58ARGHMARVIN::COCKBURNPromoting International UnityFri Feb 02 1990 09:087
Please do not post very long notes like .-1 without giving a warning to
DECwindows notes users in a previous reply. Decwindows notes had to read
in all 2624 lines of that note before I could read the next new one, tying
up my session unnecessarily for about 10 mins!!

	Craig.
1010.59I agree, but...LEXIS::COHENFri Feb 02 1990 10:5910
re: -1 and  -2.

I agree about warning users of a long file ahead, whew!

On the other hand, the article is very interesting.  
A lot of it is just as ethnocentric (i.e. America is great because...) 
as the United States he criticizes, but there are many valid points as well.

					Bob 
1010.60what happened to 1010.57CVG::THOMPSONMy friends call me AlfredFri Feb 02 1990 12:189
    .57 contained a 2600 line article which is part of a book called
    "A Japan that Can Say No". Because of the problems such large postings
    cause, especially to batch readers and DECwindows users, I have deleted
    it and asked to poster to provide a pointer to a location on the net
    where people who want to can get the whole note.


    			Alfred

1010.61Modern UI should not limit accessCUSPID::MCCABEIf Murphy&#039;s Law can go wrong .. Fri Feb 02 1990 12:525
    re .58
    
    Sounds like a design flaw in DECWINDOWS Notes.
    
    
1010.62feature not bug :-)CVG::THOMPSONMy friends call me AlfredFri Feb 02 1990 14:477
	RE: .61 DECWindows does not limit the number of lines read. What
	it does do is read the WHOLE note before it returns control to the
	user. This is not normally a problem. Except for long notes. It is
	related to the DECwindows widget Notes uses. There are long discussions
	on the issue in the VAXNOTES product conferences.

			Alfred
1010.63MicrocosmVMSDEV::HALLYBThe Smart Money was on GoliathMon Feb 05 1990 14:1611
    Re: .62
    
    STILL sounds like a design flaw in DECWINDOWS Notes.
    
    I don't care how DW Notes operates, I just don't want it to take
    forever to read the next note.  If you tell me I'm asking for too much
    then I'll go use some other product that does what I want.
    
    Sometimes our customers feel the same way about other DEC products.
    
      John
1010.64Looks like a flaw to meDELNI::MCCABEIf Murphy&#039;s Law can go wrong .. Mon Feb 05 1990 14:172
    ...as I said.
    
1010.65Fine so beat up on someone who can do somethingCVG::THOMPSONMy friends call me AlfredMon Feb 05 1990 14:298
	RE: Last couple. If it's a bug or a flaw then jump into 
	CLT::VAXNOTES_BUGS and beat up on the developers. They seem an
	open minded bunch. If enought people complain I'm sure they'll
	move fixing the problem higher on the priority scale. COntrary to
	popular opinion I don't have any pull there. I suspect that the
	Notes people may not even read this conference either.

				Alfred
1010.66Workaround in the meantime...PSYCHE::DMCLUREYour favorite MartianMon Feb 05 1990 16:296
	Simple solution to the DECwindows VAXnotes dillema is to try this
    the next time you start a notes session in a DECterm:

	$ NOTES/NODECWINDOWS

				   -davo
1010.67The pointer, pleaseTKOV58::SHIMONOComputers &amp; Communism made TetrisTue Feb 06 1990 00:396
  Re:  .57  "A Japan that Can Say No"

  I missed it.  Please let me know the pointer to the text.

  Dolby SHIMONO (who can say Yes/No/I donto andastando Engrish welu)
  DEC-Japan   Tokyo
1010.68ThanksTKOV58::SHIMONOHyperBigMac contains computer wormsTue Feb 06 1990 19:328
< Note 1010.67 by TKOV58::SHIMONO "Computers & Communism made Tetris" >
>  Re:  .57  "A Japan that Can Say No"
>
>  I missed it.  Please let me know the pointer to the text.

  Someone showed me the location of the file.  Thanks.

  dolby
1010.69For example like thisPAXVAX::SONTAKKEWed Feb 07 1990 13:5111
    Alright, I will raise my hand too.  Can I get the pointer to the text?
    
    Thanks,
    - Vikas
    
    P.S. Won't it be great if "*" on the note title can actually
    cross-reference a pointer to the text?  Would I be asking too much if I
    expected Notes Utility (or moderator) to move the text in a separate
    file and provide the pointer rather than people asking for the pointer?
    I am assuming that the disk-space on the host node is not premium.
                                                                      
1010.70Does anybody still hav "Japan that can say no"?USAT05::BURKHARTThu Jun 21 1990 16:536
I have looked through the replies that follow .57 but I do not find a pointer to 
the article by Morita.

Does anybody still have it and better yet will somebody post a pointer to the 
article ?

1010.71BOLT::MINOWThere must be a pony here somewhereFri Jun 22 1990 15:025
re: .70:

Try MAY14::PUBLIC:JAPAN.PS (for US LPS40) or JAPAN.TXT

Martin.