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1002.1 | our most important assets -- our people? | ODIXIE::CARNELL | DTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALF | Wed Jan 10 1990 14:52 | 6 |
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And how can Bright Bob do this if Personnel and their current policies
and procedures not only discourages such creative utilization of "our
most important assets -- our people" but actually (to varying degrees,
depending on perspective) prohibits the creation of such a new job!
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1002.2 | let's say this about that | MELKOR::HENSLEY | thats Ms. Pushy Broad to you... | Wed Jan 10 1990 15:36 | 7 |
| You need to find a friendly and supporting host manager who also
can absorb the headcount, although they may be able to negotiate
the funding of the position. It does happen. It may not be
intuitively obvious as to "how", and certainly involves some creative
effort on your own behalf.
ih
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1002.3 | | ULTRA::GONDA | DECelite: Pursuit of Knowledge, Wisdom, and Happiness. | Thu Jan 11 1990 07:38 | 2 |
| One way to create the job you like is to come up with a RAD
proposal and get sponsorship for your idea through RAD.
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1002.4 | Brave New Rule for HCG | ISLNDS::BAHLIN | | Thu Jan 11 1990 08:37 | 21 |
| One of the biggest roadblocks to getting something like this off
the ground is the 'head count game' (HCG). In HCG, a manager's
budget (i.e. power) and influence is directly proportional to
LEGITIMATE head count. This has the stifling effect of maintaining
the status quo inspite of the opportunity realities. An 'outgoing'
manager (unless they are enlightened) has very little incentive
to participate in shifting people around. An 'incoming' manager
has some downright disincentives, like a blown budget, to accepting
an unplanned head in HCG. The entire process is also arbitrarily
constrained to 1 year lumps.
I propose a new rule for HCG. With my new rule, a manager can
earn HCG credits (HCGCs). Any time it is necessary to trade heads,
managers can use HCGCs as follows. An outgoing manager earns HCGCs
whenever an employee shifts to another group. Incoming managers
spend previously accumulated HCGCs to take on this employee. A
HCGC is equal to 1 person-week. HCGCs have no limits, i.e. they
are accumulated for the life of the manager and across fiscal
boundaries.
What do you think?
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1002.5 | Acronym alert! | SMOOT::ROTH | Insist on Wolf's Head Motor Oil! | Thu Jan 11 1990 11:22 | 3 |
| Re: .3
What's RAD an acronym for?
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1002.6 | Even a losing personality can win? | WORDY::JONG | Steve Jong/NaC Pubs | Thu Jan 11 1990 12:09 | 7 |
| Re: .4 (Bahlin): Let's see if I have this straight. If I, as a
manager, am a jerk, and drive people regularly out of group, I get
*credit* for it?
Where do I sign up?
8^) (with tongue firmly in cheek, if not in check)
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1002.7 | That's a Roger .6 | ISLNDS::BAHLIN | | Thu Jan 11 1990 13:17 | 10 |
| re: .6 Driving people from group
Yup! This is far better than the present system where managers
who are jerks keep all their people and simply drive them crazy
where they stand while continuing to get budget for it.
At least with my method, the incoming manager gets a chance to make
you sane again. I suppose we could modify the rule so that if
too many credits pile up in your account (because nobody will work
for you) you have to buy them down with your paycheck.
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1002.8 | Its RAD(ical) to be selected by RAD :-) | ULTRA::GONDA | DECelite: Pursuit of Knowledge, Wisdom, and Happiness. | Thu Jan 11 1990 15:48 | 5 |
| Re: <<< Note 1002.5 by SMOOT::ROTH "Insist on Wolf's Head Motor Oil!" >>>
Research and Advanced Developemt. Every once in a while they
send out notices (including in Digital This Week (DTW)) for proposals.
December 19, 1989 Vol 16, No 20 (last) issue had one on page 5.
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1002.9 | | MAMTS2::TDAVIS | | Sat Jan 13 1990 16:43 | 2 |
| Interesting concept, however we would have to hire additinal headcount
to track it.
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1002.10 | Headcount bah humbug! | COOKIE::HANKS | | Sun Jan 14 1990 21:05 | 4 |
| Trying to control spending by 'head count' is such a gross over
simplification that it truly demands that those of us in the trenches
revolt and make management aware that it does do more harm than good on
many fronts. Creativity is just the most obvious.
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1002.11 | Counting heads, brains.....beans | BISTRO::BREICHNER | | Mon Jan 29 1990 10:14 | 15 |
| re.10
It's even worse than that. Just saw a note from Human Resources
that we can't hire students anymore.
They don't get much pay,
They don't stay long,
They usually do a good job,
They are motivated to "be with DEC"
BUT they are in the "headcount", so BASTA...
(Maybe we want to make sure to never ever have them apply for
a regular job, which means disaster to the headcount)
A concerned headcounter
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1002.12 | cut costs, cut down summer hires | XCUSME::KOSKI | This NOTE's for you | Mon Jan 29 1990 15:17 | 22 |
| > They don't get much pay,
> They don't stay long,
> They usually do a good job,
> They are motivated to "be with DEC"
I can't agree on points 1,3 & 4. Depending on the type of program
than the student is involved with they may be getting paid plenty,
for example graduate students may be paid at a rate equivalent to
a level 34/36 (read big bucks) to do rather mundane projects with
fancy names (to look good on the resume).
They do a good job? I'm sure there are motivated hard working co-ops,
but how many notice the sheer volume of new coop noters every spring.
I don't know about you but I get a bit ticked off that these part
timers with specific projects to be working on have the time to learn
and actively participate in Notes. These people are not noting after
work from home.
College hires are needed, summer hires I wonder...I think it's more
of a PR venture.
Gail
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1002.13 | One possibility | PHAROS::DMCLURE | Stand up for your writes | Wed Feb 14 1990 13:17 | 12 |
| re: .0,
> -< Can you create your own job within DEC? >-
No, but in an info-market (note 1024), you could basically offer
your goods and services for sale in the notesfiles and, if successful,
use the resulting capital generated from one venture to fund the next.
In this way, you could basically create your own job as an intra-
corporate entrepeneur - doing what you like to do (and what others feel
is worth enough that they are willing to pay their own info-dollars for).
-davo
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1002.14 | One step further, hypothetically speaking | TIXEL::ARNOLD | Real men don't set for stun | Tue Mar 20 1990 17:11 | 65 |
| It's interesting that this topic came up, as I've been wondering
something for a long time that kind of fits this topic. Suppose,
hypothetically speaking, there is an employee with a particular
skill set for a particular set of software products. This employee's
consulting/programming skills are good with this software, and his/her
presentation skills regarding this software (official seminars,
customer presentations, etc) are also rated highly.
Suppose further, hypothetically speaking, that this employee has made
a lot of friends throughout the corporation because at one time or
another over the past several years, he/she has helped many people
and organizations; ie, helped put out fires, did programming and/or
consulting on highly visible projects that resulted, directly or
indirectly, in big bucks, made presentations to targetted customers
when no local people were available or had the expertise that the
customers required/expected, etc ad nauseum.
Now, suppose further yet, still hypothetically speaking of course,
that this employee works in an organization that seems to be narrowly
focused on its own goals, such that when opportunities as discussed
above arise, he/she must turn them down. In many cases, this results
in the requestor trying to find another resource. That's fine, but
in other cases, this results in applications not being done or being
done poorly, a presentation to a customer not being done or being
done with a resource that is clearly not familiar with the software
or the corporate strategy, etc. This employee can feel badly about
saying "no" to the requestor, of course, but the goals of his/her
current group "must come as a first priority", as he/she is constantly
reminded.
Hypothetically speaking, if there were such an employee within
Digital in a theoretical situation as described above, is there an
organization within Digital where that employee might want to look?
Is this part of the AHOD program?
In this possibly non-existant group/cost center, the employee would
be responsible for maintaining technical currency with the software
he/she supports, scheduling reasonable amounts of training when
needed, and working out a mutually agreeable schedule with any calls
that come in. This employee would not *bypass* any of the official
support organizations, either local or corporate, but would *work with*
those support organizations to ensure that the customer is happy, the
proper presentations to the proper folks are made, the software is
working & expectations are correctly set, etc etc. In all cases,
when group "A" or area "B" or organization "C" call to request some-
thing of this employee, the requestor is more than willing to pay
for any expenses incurred, so this cost center would not necessarily
need to have a humungous travel or "misc" budget set aside.
Is this really a fictitious group or cost center? Other replies to
this topic talked about RAD and "creative effort". Presumably, one
would have to find a manager/cost center who:
1. Had room for an extra headcount. (Do those exist ANYWHERE within
Digital these days??)
2. Who was willing to have a person in his/her group who would be
making "corporate contributions" instead of focussing his/her
energies towards this specific manager's goals.
3. A partridge in a pear tree. (If you can find #1 and #2, then
finding #3 should be a piece of cake!)
Any ideas?
Hypothetically wondering,
Jon
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1002.15 | | STAR::MFOLEY | Jammin with Bill and Ted | Tue Mar 20 1990 23:01 | 6 |
| RE: .14
Wow... Someone's been reading my future thoughts!!
mike
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1002.16 | Hypothetically speaking, it *could* happen... | AUNTB::WARNOCK | Todd Warnock @CBO | Thu Mar 22 1990 06:53 | 13 |
| I think that .14 could be many jobs - depending on your manager.
Fortunately, my last two managers have had that approach. It sounds
like some Sales Support jobs I know...
If a hypothetical person such as .14 existed, with the skills described
in .14, I *might* hypothetically know somewhere to send a resume'
(within DEC).
One *could* contact me via mail, hypothetically... :-)
Good luck in your hypothetical quest !
Todd
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