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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

977.0. "Salary sub ranges?" by KYOA::MENNER (People everywhere just wanna be free) Thu Dec 07 1989 07:04

    
    Sorry 'bout another salary question/issue but i would like to see
    collaboration/verification of the following:
    
    		Is a salary range for a particular level subdivided 
    into sub ranges (which have some overlap) based on performance 
    ratings.  Therefore the maximum (or even near the maximum) of a
    salary range is only attainable by "one" performers?
    
    
    	  hope this doesn't clutter up this conf with 100+ replies-:)
    
    				..ron
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977.1COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Dec 07 1989 13:1624
>    		Is a salary range for a particular level subdivided 
>    into sub ranges (which have some overlap) based on performance 
>    ratings.

No.  Salary ranges are simply divided into quartiles.

>Therefore the maximum (or even near the maximum) of a salary range is only
>attainable by "one" performers?

This is true (as it should be) for a different reason.

If you remember the chart I posted elsewhere, for each position in the
salary range (based on quartile) and for each performance rating, there
is a minimum and maximum percentage raise permitted.

If the salary ranges remained constant (were not annually adjusted), even
a three performer could theoretically move up to the top of the range, if
pmin were not zero for the top quartile(s).

But since the ranges are adjusted upward each year, the only way to progress
to the top of the range is to perform well enough for your pmin to be greater
than the increase in the top of the range.

/john
977.2CSC32::M_JILSONDoor handle to door handleThu Dec 07 1989 16:418
>But since the ranges are adjusted upward each year, the only way to progress
>to the top of the range is to perform well enough for your pmin to be greater
>than the increase in the top of the range.

I believe this should be changed to Salary ranges are reviewed each year 
and adjusted if necessary.

Jilly
977.3Not EverywhereDSTEG1::WENTWORTHFri Dec 08 1989 13:454
    I don't think the rules quoted previously apply to all groups at DEC.
    I haven't seen "quartiles" in many years, the measurement now is a %
    of your salary range with mid-point a significant point.
    On paper you shouldn't reach max unless you are a superior performer.
977.4exceptions to every "rule"CGHUB::CONNELLYEye Dr3 -- Regnad KcinFri Dec 08 1989 22:3916
re: .1,.3

>    On paper you shouldn't reach max unless you are a superior performer.

The other case would be if you took a job that was several levels below
your previous job.  In that case you would be very near the max for your
new range even though you might be far from the "most valuable performer"
at that level at first.  You might also end up getting no raise for a few
years.

This scenario could become more common as we get more into "redeployment"
or "reskilling" of people whose formerly valued skills are now obsolete or
in low demand.  Both the employee anf the hiring manager for the new
position would have to recognize this as a problem situation that would
need to be monitored carefully.
								paul
977.5MAASUP::FILERFri Dec 29 1989 11:265
    Unfortunatly JEC changed the salary ranges for WC4. Generally the
    made the range wider by adding a few $ to the high end and bring
    the lower end down by several $K. This will mean that almost every
    one moved up in the salary range because the range moved down. This
    will make it easy for MGMT to justify not giving a pay increase.
977.6outside of salary planning systemPHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Mon Nov 18 1996 10:351
977.7HRRMULAC.DVO.DEC.COM::S_WATTUMMon Nov 18 1996 11:215
977.8QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Nov 18 1996 13:144
977.9DEC is far behind the industryPHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Mon Nov 18 1996 13:487
977.10I used to think we were "behind"...USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Tue Nov 19 1996 00:194
977.11Never heard of it...WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Nov 19 1996 06:338
977.12POMPY::LESLIEAndy, it's hip to b�Tue Nov 19 1996 06:341
977.13WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Nov 19 1996 06:413
977.14WLDBIL::KILGOREHow serious is this?Tue Nov 19 1996 06:489
977.15BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurTue Nov 19 1996 07:226
977.16WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Nov 19 1996 07:555
977.17Different job families... several levels apart...BSS::BRUNOGen X BoomerTue Nov 19 1996 11:237
977.18NCMAIL::SMITHBWed Nov 20 1996 07:474
977.19BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurWed Nov 20 1996 07:575
977.20need to know vs right to knowGRANPA::JWOODWed Nov 20 1996 08:3811
977.21Should be very important...WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Nov 20 1996 11:374
977.22They are VERY VERY WIDENPSS::JOHNSONMike J., Network Products SupportWed Nov 20 1996 11:426
977.23PHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Wed Nov 20 1996 11:581
977.24KAOM25::WALLDEC Is DigitalWed Nov 20 1996 12:144
977.25BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurWed Nov 20 1996 16:208
977.26MAASUP::MUDGETTWe Need Dinozord Power NOW!Wed Nov 20 1996 18:048
977.27wide overlapsINDYX::ramRam Rao, PBPGINFWMYWed Nov 20 1996 20:035
977.28gaussian would be too expensiveWHOS01::ELKINDSteve Elkind, Digital SI @WHOThu Nov 21 1996 16:295
977.29when did you get that BS?REGENT::POWERSFri Nov 22 1996 08:4111
977.301983MAASUP::MUDGETTWe Need Dinozord Power NOW!Sat Nov 23 1996 08:186
977.31LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOMon Nov 25 1996 13:573
977.32REGENT::POWERSWed Nov 27 1996 08:509
977.33It's done every dayNUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighWed Nov 27 1996 09:018
977.34REGENT::POWERSWed Nov 27 1996 09:1018
977.35Windows 95INDYX::ramRam Rao, PBPGINFWMYWed Nov 27 1996 10:594
977.36PHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Wed Nov 27 1996 11:536
977.37INDYX::ramRam Rao, PBPGINFWMYWed Nov 27 1996 12:369
977.38PHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Wed Nov 27 1996 12:401
977.39POMPY::LESLIEandy ��� leslieThu Nov 28 1996 04:366
977.40"Suggested Retail Price"STAR::JACOBIPaul A. Jacobi - OpenVMS DevelopmentFri Nov 29 1996 15:277
977.41BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Mon Dec 02 1996 12:0812
977.42I don't think I've ever seen Bose on sale at LechmereTLE::INGRAMoopsMon Dec 02 1996 12:117
977.43several companies do itPHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Mon Dec 02 1996 12:134
977.44More info about pricing.CPEEDY::FLEURYMon Dec 02 1996 12:4022
977.45NUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighMon Dec 02 1996 14:5813
977.46WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Dec 03 1996 06:1311
977.47SYOMV::FOLEYInstant Gratification takes too longTue Dec 03 1996 22:508
977.48BUSY::SLABCandy'O, I need you ...Wed Dec 04 1996 11:424
977.49QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Dec 04 1996 12:023
977.50PHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Wed Dec 04 1996 13:435
977.51BUSY::SLABConsume feces and expire.Wed Dec 04 1996 14:234
977.52POLAR::TOMKINSThu Dec 05 1996 09:212
977.53How they get the 'averages'SNAX::PIERPONTTue Dec 10 1996 16:4615