Conference 7.286::digital

>  College grads are not in 20's but 30's, many are women 

don't understand, all the college grads we hire are in their 20's.
Many are women.


>o  33,00 people in Massachusetts work for DEC; DEC is largest employer in 
>   Mass.  

typo, 33,000?

    I don't understand about having 1 husband and a non-working wife...
    
    But then, it is 11 O'clock...
    
    
    				- Lou

re .0:

>o  33,00 people in Massachusetts work for DEC; DEC is largest employer in 
>   Mass.  
>o  12,000 people in N.H. work for DEC
>o  50,000 in New England work for DEC
>o  70,000 in the U.S.A. work for DEC
   -------
   135,300

Which is more than;

>o  123,762 people

Dave.

re .-1
        Mass and N.H. (33,000 and 12,000) are both part of New England
        (50,000). New England is of course part of the total U.S.A.
        (although there are those that would question that...)
        
        q
        

>    o  DEC is based in 80 or 90 countries

    Which is it, 80 or 90?
    
-Andy

:    
:>  College grads are not in 20's but 30's, many are women 
:
:don't understand, all the college grads we hire are in their 20's.
:Many are women.

    
    	What - DEC won't hire a person who gets a degree after the age
    of 30 ?       The "figure" (as I understand it) means that DEC hires
    a lot of older college graduates.   Of course, it could also mean
    that most of DEC's degreed employees are in their 30's -- even if
    they got their degrees 10 years ago in their 20's.

    I like the "Chinese Restaurant" statistic. 8-]
    
    -Don-

    Maybe we can send out the 123,763rd employee to count the number
    of countries DEC's in...
    
    Karen

>o  38% of people are outside USA
>o  123,762 people
Gives 76,732 or so inside the USA, which is close enough to
    >o  70,000 in the U.S.A. work for DEC
    
    As for the other numbers, I though Raytheon was the largest employer
    in Mass. and DEC was number 2, or did that really change?
    
    Incidentally, I only count 71 countries in the latest phone book,
    31 of which have only "distributor" or "reseller" listings.  Whether
    this counts as "based in" I leave to the reader's judgement...

        re .-1
        
>     Incidentally, I only count 71 countries in the latest phone book,
>    31 of which have only "distributor" or "reseller" listings.  Whether
>    this counts as "based in" I leave to the reader's judgement...
  
        This would nopt include a number of countries that we dont
        bother listing in the phone book.
        
        i.e. We have an engineer in Papua New Guinea, and in Fiji there
        is a office with 4 people.
        
        q
        

>:    
>:>  College grads are not in 20's but 30's, many are women 
>:
>:don't understand, all the college grads we hire are in their 20's.
>:Many are women.
>
>    
>    	What - DEC won't hire a person who gets a degree after the age
>    of 30 ?
sorry - should have said "most" - we certainly have no rule against 
and no problem with hiring college grads in their 30s - was just 
commenting that ALMOST all I HAD SEEN were in their 20s, this 
disagreed with the original statement "not in 20s but in 30s"

    We have offices in Hong Kong, Taiwan, and China Mainland (PRC).
    Do you count them as one country? ;-)
    
    Hope this is not too political for this conference.

    .10, etc.
    
    It just means that most of the people, who have college degrees,
    are in their thirties now.
    
    						Ann B.

    
    In Q3 of FY88 each of the 123,762 employees produced $22,817.84
    of our total operating revenues.
    

        I beg to differ... I produced much more than that.
        
        
        Rather a small amount isn't it?
        
        q
        

.13 reports a QUARTERLY figure

The Datamation 100 reports that DEC's computer and information systems
revenue per employee was $89K for 1987, about 4 times the quarterly
figure in .13.

Ans yes, it IS a small number.  DEC's revenue per employee is the lowest
in the top ten of the Datamation 100 and 16th out of the top 20.
IBM is $139.2K, HP is $98.7K, and Apple is $383.7K!

>    < Note 570.8 by SMURF::REEVES "Jon Reeves, ULTRIX compiler group" >
>               -< 43% of all statistics invented while-you-wait >-
>    
>    As for the other numbers, I though Raytheon was the largest employer
>    in Mass. and DEC was number 2, or did that really change?

    As far as I remember, Raytheon has more than 33K employees in Mass.
    so is still number one.  I remember the number being up in the 40K
    range, with ~70K employees world-wide.  
    
    Charlie

    Re: .13:
    
      That figure is obtained by taking the revenue total for the three
    months ended March, 26, 1988 from the Q3 Report FY88 and dividing it by
    the current number of employees.  Obviously, all 123,762 haven't worked
    for us for three months starting back in late December 1987, so the
    figures must be adjusted upward somewhat. 
    

    
    $22K (per quarter)X4=$88K/employee....pretty close.
    

    I think we have sites in 91 countries.  I can't confirm it as I
    misplaced my notes to a recent meeting that produced this statistic.
    
    Yes, I frequent Chinese restaurants, esp. in chinatown
    
    peter
    

    
    from: Internal Guide to Digital Organizations revised 30-Jun-88
    	  Chapter 1, Page 1
    
    	Digital has about 1000 sales, service, manufacturing,
    administrative and engineering sites in *64* countries and employs
    more than 119,000 people worldwide.
    
    
    -Joe
    

    re: the original statement about Californians wanting carphones...
    
    I'd say that this is something most of the people in this office want,
    and the statistic about 33mph is not particularly useful in describing
    the commute down the San Diego freeway to DEC's Los Angeles office
    (LAO). A more illuminating piece of data is that this freeway has
    two of the worlds three most busy intersections in the world on
    it. That is, the intersection of the San Diego and Santa Monica
    freeways is the busiest, and then the intersection of the San Diego
    and the  Ventura freeways is the next or possibly third busiest,
    in the world. What this means to the many DEC employees travelling
    to work on the 405 or San Diego freeway is, that there are not one
    but several zones approaches these intersections where traffic
    *appears* to average 0 to 5mph, and if you are lucky there are zones
    where you can get up to 33mph. Carphones would allow sales reps
    and similarly busy folks to make some use of all those hours spent
    inhaling that fifteen year old Pinto's plume of carbon monoxide
    ahead of your car. Its even worse going downtown, where we are
    reportedly opening a new office. The freeways going downtown seem to have
    more 20 year old trucks with giant clouds of noxious gases settling
    in the hot air. The big question is, are we going to die first from
    diesel asphyxiation, or stress overload from the crazy actions car
    drivers here are resorting to? 

    I wonder if everyone in L.A. had a car phone, how many area codes
    would have to be added.  At last count, there are only 2 unassigned
    numbers.  It would probably be better if Digital allowed you to
    work out of your home if you lived in L.A.   Of course, those
    of us in the less populated western states question if there is
    intelligent life in Southern California.

    Are you questioning:
	1. The intelligence,
	2. The existence of life, or
	3. The existence of Southern California?

    Re: .23      Yes.
    
                         - Ed -            :-)

    My brother, who lives(?) in San Diego, believes that a true "Southern
    Californian" is only concerned about damage to his genes if he is
    forced to sit on a known carcinogen.  Not knowing any of that breed
    myself I'm forced to accept his opinion.

    re.22 on running out of area codes...
    
    Actually PacBell Cellular is a DEC customer, so if we all got car
    phones, Digital would see some of that money back. But there is
    a more scarce resource that would run out before area codes...
    airwaves! There is only so many frequencies allocated for cellular
    conversations, and when those run out, tough luck. Further more,
    there are something like 3 million cars in LA area, but how many 
    of those could afford carphones at $0.45 per minute? Not that many, 
    I'm sure. And there's four area codes to choose from, I believe
    they ask you what area code you want when you sign up for a C.P.
    
    Intel-ligent life? they're up in Santa Clara, I think. Working on
    the 486. You're right, there's very little intelligent life here
    in LA or SoCal. Its really come down to just a few unlucky folks who
    didn't party hard enough during the seventies and as a result still
    have their brains intact. Imagine the pain of trying to communicate
    with all those human water buffaloes out there. It's really ghastly.
    
    If you could convince all those New Yorkers and Jerseyites to go
    home, we could get back to being laid-back.
    
    Tired of cliches yet? Its so easy to knock LA, but its been done
    before...