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Conference akocoa::decpc_portables

Title:DECpc _Portables
Moderator:PCBUOA::GLANTZ
Created:Wed May 08 1991
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2423
Total number of notes:11059

2283.0. "bigger disk on HiNote Ultra I" by STARCH::HAGERMAN (Flames to /dev/null) Wed Jan 22 1997 13:31

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2283.1answersRSNC::BRUILIf it's broken we'll fix itWed Jan 22 1997 14:3112
2283.2what I didSLOAN::HOMWed Jan 22 1997 16:338
2283.3SMURF::PBECKPaul BeckWed Jan 22 1997 16:364
2283.4STOWOA::READBob Read @OGO, DTN 276-9715Thu Jan 23 1997 07:193
2283.5get rid of junk on diskSLOAN::HOMThu Jan 23 1997 08:108
2283.6STARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullThu Jan 23 1997 11:074
2283.71.3g drive???SSDEVO::BOWSERThu Jan 23 1997 15:245
2283.81.3g yes, drvspace yes too, both WIN95NWD002::FEIGLEThu Jan 23 1997 18:1523
2283.9Compression: Change Ratios to match actuals VERY IMPORTANT!JULIET::HARRIS_MANetworks Sales ExecMon Jan 27 1997 16:3020
    RE: last few.
    
    After you drivespace a disk and use it for several weeks or so, you
    should left dbl-click on My Computer, and then RIGHT single-click on
    the drive letter that is compressed. That will bring up a window/dialog
    box. One of the tabs will be "Compression" and when clicked, it will
    actual calculate your compression ratio.
    
    Here;s the key: If it tells you your ratio is REALLY 1.6, you should go
    back into Drive Space and using the menubar tool "Change Ratio..."
    change it accordingly. By default, I think Drivespace uses 2.0:1 ratio
    which is vastly misleadinbg if you store lots of ZIPS and EXE files.
    
    DOS/Windows may "Think" you have 200meg free, but in reality you may be
    FULL! Doing the above periodically fixes/adjusts the numbers correctly
    based upon ACTUAL compression being done on each file.
    
    Very Important!
    
    Mark
2283.10What brand od drive???SSDEVO::BOWSERTue Jan 28 1997 15:113
    What brand do you recommend,... I have not had good luck with 
    Toshiba drives....  Thanks  Ron
    
2283.11Quantum/Toshiba are okay, Toshiba is my preferenceNWD002::FEIGLEWed Jan 29 1997 01:3620
    I've tried Quantum and Toshiba.  Both worked... but the "shock" rating
    of the Toshiba was better than the Quantum.  I was later told that
    while Quantum makes a good disk... their shock values are not as good
    as others.
    
    I have the Toshiba 1.3GB, which is the same disk that Digital puts into
    the HiNote Ultra II from Canada.  I purchased mine 3rd party.  I carry
    my laptop "everywhere"... and it has been very reliable.  Concerning
    shock "stuff" FWIW from the spec sheet:
    Vibration and Shock:
    Operating Vibration		0.5G
    Operating Shock		100.0G
    Non-Operating Shock		200.0G
    
    If you want the gory full spec sheet I have it... but it is also on the
    web.  I bought it first since it was one of the few low profile big
    disks that I could find.  I was happy later to find out that Digital
    uses it themselves...
    
    jff
2283.12how big a pry bar to open Ultra case?STARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullFri Jan 31 1997 23:091
    How did you get it in there? Field service or DIY?
2283.13info on big disks for HiNote Ultra I CT475STARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullTue Mar 25 1997 09:3116
    Here's what I've found out about bigger disks for the CT475. I haven't
    actually done this yet, though.
    
    The Digital Parts Source is where to get stuff like this. They
    are at 1-800-225-5385.
    
    There is a 1.35 GB disk that fits. The drive part number is
    30-46764-01 and is orderable from IEG.
    
    For installation, the part number is FM-XE135-UP. This includes
    the disk and is $749, internal price.
    
    I'm still trying to figure out what to do about backing up
    my system before I send it off to be upgraded...
    
    Doug.
2283.14BUSY::SLABBaroque: when you're out of MonetTue Mar 25 1997 09:478
    
    	RE: .13
    
    	Direct connection to a system on an NT server, and copy your C
    	drive to your local area.
    
    	It might take awhile, but it'll work.
    
2283.15.14 may be neccessary, but is not sufficient...FIEVEL::FILGATEBruce Filgate SHR3-2/W4 237-6452Tue Mar 25 1997 17:5411
 There are 2.5" to 3.5" ide cable adapters.  With one of these, the
 the old drive can be taken to a lab machine and copied to a scratch drive,
 then the new drive connected and the data copied from the scratch to
 the new drive.

 It was my understanding that this data move was part of the disk 
 replacement cost charged by the repair depot when they replace
 a disk drive?

 Bruce
2283.16axel.zko.dec.com::FOLEYhttp://axel.zko.dec.comTue Mar 25 1997 18:3410

	Or, use MS Backup that comes with Win95 to backup the whole disk
	to a network drive someplace. (as a backup saveset)

	Put in the new drive, boot off a floppy with a Xircom adaptor.
	Connect to a Win95 kit, install, now use backup to restore the
	saveset and Bob's your Uncle.

							mike
2283.17Re .12: ``how big a pry bar to open Ultra case?''NETRIX::"[email protected]"Eric DubeWed Mar 26 1997 13:5217
I'm not going to put technical details here due to the
fact that people may try it and cause damage to their
laptops.

But the HiNote Ultra I can EASILY be disassembled for
a hardrive upgrade if your careful. In fact I did it
in my hotel room a while back. All I had was a couple
of small screwdrivers and a thumbtack. (You need a good
degree of patience, and a good understanding of how
to read our field service technical repair guides.)

I wouldn't recommend it as the only person who should open
your laptop should be a fairly skilled technician or field
service.


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2283.18Not for the faintJULIET::HARRIS_MANetworks Sales ExecMon Mar 31 1997 17:3311
    MCS actually created a Windows HELP file (.hlp) that shows the drill.
    Yes, it takes patience, and yes, not for the weak of heart.
    
    The key is lots of room, plenty of light, and a very slim hard disk
    drive. (I think 12.7mm is the limit). I found lots of 1+ gig drives in
    the 12.7mm range, for perhaps $350 or less. I found 540meg drives for
    $99!
    
    Mark
    
    P.S. markja::dkb700:[pccommon]hinote.hlp
2283.19can't getLGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 381-0426 ZKO1-1)Wed Apr 02 1997 11:566
re Note 2283.18 by JULIET::HARRIS_MA:

>     P.S. markja::dkb700:[pccommon]hinote.hlp
  
        > Error opening MARKJA::DKB700:[PCCOMMON]HINOTE.HLP;1 as input
        > Insufficient privilege or file protection violation
2283.20Fixed?JULIET::HARRIS_MANetworks Sales ExecWed Apr 02 1997 15:343
    fixed. try it now.
    
    Mark
2283.21greatSTARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullThu Apr 03 1997 17:342
    This is TERRIFIC! How come I've never seen it before? Are there
    equivalents for other machines (like the VP, for instance)?
2283.22QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centThu Apr 03 1997 22:135
    It was posted here once, got removed at the request of PCBU (I think).
    
    Replacing the disk in a VP is simple and documented in the manual.
    
    					Steve