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Conference 44.392::eng_in_miniature

Title:Engineering in Miniature
Moderator:ESPO01::NEALE
Created:Fri May 29 1992
Last Modified:Wed Mar 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:166
Total number of notes:1928

9.0. "The Myford Topic." by LARVAE::CLEMENTS_D () Wed Jun 10 1992 14:50

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9.1Oil gun, Zerks, USA Dealer30513::FISHERBXB2-2/G08 DTN 293-5695Wed Feb 08 1995 18:0072
9.2HELIX::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome MRO1-1/KL31 Pole HJ33Wed Feb 08 1995 18:3015
9.3Good for YOU!9331::GREENMANThu Feb 09 1995 12:5123
9.4Englishmen prefer nipples :-)GALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultThu Feb 09 1995 13:1540
9.5More questions30513::FISHERBXB2-2/G08 DTN 293-5695Sun Feb 12 1995 15:48134
9.6HELIX::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome MRO1-1/KL31 Pole HJ33Sun Feb 12 1995 17:0713
9.7More commentsGALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultMon Feb 13 1995 14:0736
9.8and yet more...9331::GREENMANTue Feb 14 1995 13:1432
9.9HELIX::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome MRO1-1/KL31 Pole HJ33Tue Feb 14 1995 13:414
9.10More dials than Concorde's flight deck...GALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultTue Feb 14 1995 15:2523
9.11hmmm...9331::GREENMANWed Feb 15 1995 12:5518
9.12Turning to a shoulder with a MyfordGALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultMon Feb 20 1995 09:5532
9.139331::GREENMANMon Feb 20 1995 12:4640
9.14GALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultWed Feb 22 1995 12:1318
9.15GALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultWed Feb 22 1995 12:1318
9.169331::GREENMANWed Feb 22 1995 12:5314
9.17RANGER::REITHWed Feb 22 1995 16:408
9.18Go take a look a rons home page.BROUGH::DAVIESNot Also, but ONLYThu Feb 23 1995 15:226
9.19Brass corrosion30513::FISHERBXB2-2/G08 DTN 293-5695Thu Feb 23 1995 15:5063
9.20HELIX::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome MRO1-1/KL31 Pole HJ33Thu Feb 23 1995 16:389
9.21Oil the clutch?30513::FISHERBXB2-2/G08 DTN 293-5695Thu Feb 23 1995 19:0014
9.22if it's a wet-plate clutch...9331::GREENMANFri Feb 24 1995 14:306
9.23S7 clutchGALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultWed Mar 01 1995 12:2914
9.24Rebuild completedMARVIN::ROBINSONLet me manage your Video Player for youMon Jan 22 1996 16:3911
9.25Leadscrew Swarf Guard30513::FISHERwhile (!asleep) sheep++;Tue Jan 07 1997 20:3221
9.26Cheapskate lathe add-onsGALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultWed Jan 08 1997 11:5338
9.27Leadscrew Swarf Guard mounting30513::FISHERwhile (!asleep) sheep++;Wed Jan 08 1997 17:2016
9.28I'll look...GALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultFri Jan 10 1997 10:377
9.29Hows is the swarf guard held on?30513::FISHERwhile (!asleep) sheep++;Tue Jan 21 1997 22:1011
9.30Myford guard...GALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultThu Jan 23 1997 13:3612
9.31Leadscrew guard fittingGALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can't, consultMon Jan 27 1997 10:0716
Had a look at my Myford over the weekend. Remember this is an S7 with power
cross-feed (which changes the saddle design somewhat).

The leadscrew guard is attached by two "slotted studs with lock nuts". These
appear to be gib strip adjusters for the half-nut dovetails, so that any time
you disturb them you will need to readjust them. There is a third adjuster below
these two, which does not have a secondary function.

I remember a quote from way back, which said that the art of the design engineer
is to ensure that everything has only one function, and can be
assembled/dismantled/adjusted without disturbing anything else. The art of the
production engineer is to ensure that every component serves at least two
functions, if not more, and can be assembled in the factory as cheaply as
possible. Looks like the production engineer won out here...

- Brian
9.32half-nut dovetails?30513::FISHERwhile (!asleep) sheep++;Mon Jan 27 1997 14:5222
<Had a look at my Myford over the weekend. Remember this is an S7 with power
<cross-feed (which changes the saddle design somewhat).

So is mine.

<The leadscrew guard is attached by two "slotted studs with lock nuts". These
<appear to be gib strip adjusters for the half-nut dovetails, so that any time
<you disturb them you will need to readjust them. There is a third adjuster below
<these two, which does not have a secondary function.

Yikes - My top hole has a slotted stud and lock not but the bottom hole
just has a bolt in it.  Anyway I have been removing and replacing these
a couple times a week and never adjusted one yet.

So what exactly is out of adjustment - that is what would the symptoms be?


Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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9.33Have your half-nuts dropped off yet?GALLOP::NEALEWho can, do - who can&#039;t, consultFri Jan 31 1997 10:1320
[sorry about the delay in replying - lots of travel at present]

The adjusters appear to be for the leadscrew halfnuts. I have not taken the
saddle off this machine, although I did on my old ML7. I believe that the half
nuts are fixed into castings running in dovetail slides in the front of the
saddle. The effect of poor fits of the slides would be to increase apparent
backlash in the leadscrew-saddle "fit". In other words, more slop than you get
through the thread clearances alone. In extreme cases, there might also be
problems in engaging the half-nuts. The thrust face of the half-nut slides for
normal screwcutting is also against this adjuster side.

To adjust these slides, I guess that you need to disconnect the normal operating
handle with its pins on the back of the boss which actuate the half nuts, and be
able to move the sliding parts by hand to feel the effects of adjustment. Sounds
to me like the preferred way is to remove the saddle - which sounds like an
awful lot of work! Not sure how easy it would be to move the slides without
removing the saddle, although it might be possible (if somewhat awkward for the
top slide).

- Brian