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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:	DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:	See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:	STAR::VATNE

Created:	Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:	Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3726
Total number of notes:	19516

1251.0. "How to keep icon placement from locking the icon box?" by HYDRA::COAR (Have you mutated yet to-day?) Wed Aug 09 1989 16:12

DECwindows V1, VMS V5.2.

I want the icons for some of my applications to come up in specific places in
the icon box.  So far, I've been able to accomplish with the *iconBoxX and
*iconBoxY settings.

Unfortunately, I can't control all of my applications this way, and so I need to
move the icons of the few remaining by hand.  This is not the problem.

The problem is that I am no longer able to move ANY icons as soon as one with
a specific placement has appeared.  The icons will highlight but not move.  I
can work around this by clicking on the `reorganise' button in the upper left
corner of the icon box, but then I have to manually rearrange ALL of my icons.

So, my question is:  Why does forcing an icon to a specific location lock down
ALL icons?  And what can I do to get around it?  It would be great if the
forced icons *alone* were immovable, but that's not the case currently.

#ken	:-)}

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1251.1		LESLIE::LESLIE	Andy �� Leslie, CSSE/VMS Newbury	`Wed Aug 09 1989 17:03`	4
	Sounds like QAR material. - ��
1251.2		GOSOX::RYAN	DECwindows Mail	`Thu Aug 10 1989 09:10`	6
	It works for me (V2.0 DECwindows FT1, it also worked for me in V1.0). I set the iconBoxX and iconBoxY for those windows I can, and move the rest around when they come up, and it works fine. Mike
1251.3	Argh..	HYDRA::COAR	Have you mutated yet to-day?	`Thu Aug 10 1989 10:46`	9
	Humm. It looks like this is a new problem, since I haven't seen it reported before and people have been placing icons for long and long. Fraak. I've got VMS V5.2 DW on my VS3140, but all of my applications are running as clients on a VMS V5.1 system. wmSticky set to True wouldn't cause this, would it? #ken :-(}
1251.4	workaround: resize	R2ME2::OBRYAN	When in doubt, let the user decide.	`Thu Aug 10 1989 15:12`	11
	re:.0 -< How to keep icon placement from locking the icon box? >- >The problem is that I am no longer able to move ANY icons as soon as one with >a specific placement has appeared. The icons will highlight but not move. I >can work around this by clicking on the `reorganise' button in the upper left >corner of the icon box, but then I have to manually rearrange ALL of my icons. I've experienced the same problem. I don't know the cause, but I can give you an alternate workaround: when the box locks up, simply resize it. (This seems to unstick the system.)
1251.5	I've also seen it	COOKIE::KITTELL	Richard - Architected Info Mgmt	`Thu Aug 10 1989 17:57`	4
	Before I upgraded to UWS 2.1 I had seen this often. I worked around it by scrolling the icon box a little. I haven't seen the problem since I went to 2.1.
1251.6	Positioning ???	DSTEG::HOSSFELD	I'm so confused!	`Tue Aug 15 1989 15:23`	16
	Ijust loaded v2 on SDC v5.2 vms and the icons that I force to a position all end up in the top left corner of the icon box on top of each other. Also any new icons come up in the top of the box By the way my icon bon is abouy 2" wide by 4" long in the lower left corner of the screen. Is there a resource name for the session manager icon title pause/quit text Thanks Paul H.
1251.7	ps to .6	DSTEG::HOSSFELD	I'm so confused!	`Tue Aug 15 1989 15:27`	4
	I also noticed that v2 is much slower grabbing input focus than was v1. Is there something I may have over looked in the instalation?
1251.8	Not a grid position anymore	STAR::CYPRYCH		`Wed Aug 16 1989 11:26`	17
	re: .6 The icons that you "force" to a position - I presume you mean you are using iconbox_x and iconbox_y resource? This has been answered in a previous note. In V1 there was a grid and the resource reflected the grid position. Due to the need for monitor independence, having a grid set to something like 32x32 pixels did not work on all monitors. (it "worked" it just looked terrible) So, the icon motion and placement is based on pixel value and not on a 32x32 grid. Therefore, the resouce iconbox_x and iconbox_y relected pixel value and not grid position.
1251.9	decw V2 slower	DSTEG::HOSSFELD	I'm so confused!	`Fri Aug 18 1989 12:48`	6
	Has anyone else noticed V2 being slower or not? Mine is and I am woundering if I got somethine wrong? Paul H.
1251.10		STAR::MCLEMAN	When all else fails,throw your mouse.	`Fri Aug 18 1989 13:46`	3
	I actually find mine faster.
1251.11		GOFER::HARLEY	A m��se once bit my sister...	`Sat Aug 19 1989 09:52`	4
	Me too... Actually, it feels "crisper", if that makes any sense. /Harley
1251.12	Repeatable ICON BOX locking	HOONOO::PESENTI	JP	`Wed Aug 30 1989 09:18`	15
	I run VMS V5.2 w/ DECWindows on a VS2000/GPX. I place as many of the icons as I can. My icon list contains the following: Session Mgr 2 local child sessions 1 remote child session 1 remote decw$mail window 1 local notes window decw$clock When I spawn the carfiler, the icon box locks up. It stays that way until I reorganize the box. If I quit the cardfiler, and restart it, the box locks again. I do specify the placement of the cardfiler icon.
1251.13		STAR::CYPRYCH		`Wed Aug 30 1989 10:15`	4
	Does the same problem occur if you don't specify the placement of the icon?
1251.14	no placement = no locking	HOONOO::PESENTI	JP	`Wed Aug 30 1989 11:30`	5
	If I do not specify the placement of the icon, the locking does not occur. If I do specify the placement, even the icons that have not been placed are locked.