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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:	DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:	See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:	STAR::VATNE

Created:	Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:	Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3726
Total number of notes:	19516

551.0. "shutdown via windows" by PHDVAX::COMFORT () Thu Apr 06 1989 20:23

    Hi -
    
    I have an account running DECwindows as well as VWS on VS3100's
    in an LAVc.  There is a need to switch between windowing systems
    which involves a shutdown.  We attepmted to create a "shutdown"
    captive account and were informed that DECwindows will not run in
    a captive account.  Fine.  So we set the environment to start a
    terminal window, modified the account  to run only the login.com
    and we can begin to shut down.  The shutdown gets up to stopping
    DECnet and the screen flashes some info too quickly to catch  and
    the system hangs.  Is this due to running shutdown through the session
    manager via the terminal window?  How is this different from selecting
    a dcl command from a viewfile (fileview?).  A DCL invoked  shutdown
    works fine in the latter situation.  I need some info and/or a work 
    around as the customer will not give user accounts  the  privs to
    invoke shutdown.                                               
    
    Thanx,
    
    Dave Comfort

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
551.1		LESLIE::LESLIE	Andy �� Leslie, CSSE	`Fri Apr 07 1989 02:56`	3
	Don't know what the problem can be, but why not hit the cpu interrupt button?
551.2	.COM I use	FEATHR::BLUEJAY	Once is luck, Twice is magic, Three times is science.	`Fri Apr 07 1989 09:15`	12
	$ If F$getjpi("","PRCNAM").eqs."Shutdown" then goto do_shutdown $ $ Run/detatch /input='F$environment("Procedure")' - /output=NLA0: - /process="Shutdown" SYS$system:Loginout $ $ Exit $ Do_shutdown: $ ! Minutes Reason Spindown Site-spec When up Reboot options $ @SYS$system:Shutdown "0" "Reboot" "N" "Y" "Shortly" "Y" "Save_feedback"
551.3	Try if from file view	CSC32::G_JOHNSON	Just a nickle's worth of dreams	`Fri Apr 07 1989 11:43`	9
	Our experience has been that if you try to shut down the system from a decterm, it cuts yo off at the knees and hangs your system, assumedly because it stops the term emulator before it completes the shut down. However, runnig shut down from file view (either as a customized command or from a DCL command) works fine. Greg... CSC/CS
551.4	Shutdown doesn't hang in newest VMS	LESLIE::LESLIE	Andy �� Leslie, CSSE	`Fri Apr 07 1989 14:05`	2
	RE: .3 fixed in VMS V5.2.
551.5	it's the uic-group	VNABRW::ACKER		`Wed Jul 26 1989 09:00`	12
	Between label 50: and 59: in shutdown.com is a loop which stopps all processes greater uic-group 1. If you invoke the shutdown from any user-account greater uic [1.x] your window gets killed and therefore the shutdown gets stopped at that point. Normaly all remaining processes (including the decw$server_0) are hibernating at that moment, noone wakes them up and therefore the system hangs. If you invoke the shutdown from the system-account it works fine (if the uic is still [1.x]!). regards heinz
551.6		PRAVDA::JACKSON	Elect Bill Jackson, Newton Ward 1 Alderman	`Thu Jul 27 1989 14:54`	7
	This is fixed in the V2 DECwindows software. I routinely shut down my system at home from my terminal window. Instead of stopping all user processes, it stops all but the one that's running SHUTDOWN. -bill