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Conference turris::womannotes-v3

Title:Topics of Interest to Women
Notice:V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1078
Total number of notes:52352

818.0. "Breast Cancer" by MCIS1::DHURLEY (Children Learn What They Live) Wed May 15 1991 17:26

    With all the discussion around breast size I starting thinking about
    the 20/20 program I saw the other evening around breast cancer....did
    anyone else see that program...Women from the Boston area starting
    to demonstrate and make people aware of the lack of energy from the
    scientific community in regards to finding a cure for breast cancer...
    
    any comments?
    
    denise
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818.1GEMVAX::KOTTLERThu May 16 1991 09:246
    
    I didn't see the program but I'd be interested ... do you hve any more
    specifics on what they meant by "lack of energy" about finding a cure?
    
    Dorian
    
818.2Me, TooELWOOD::CHRISTIEThu May 16 1991 11:487
    I, too, would like to know what was discussed in that particular
    program as my mother had a radican mastectomy 10 years ago.  I
    have to have a mammogram every 6 mos to keep tabs on a tiny lump
    that is undetectible by feeling.
    
    Linda
    
818.3NAVIER::SAISIThu May 16 1991 13:008
    I saw the segment too.  It was about a new movement of women who have 
    been effected by breast cancer becoming activists and demanding more
    money for research into prevention, treatment, and cure.  Similar
    to what ACT UP has done for AIDS research.  One of the women spent
    time with an ACT UP leader in California to learn strategy.  In
    the Boston area there was a Mother's Day march for breast cancer
    research funding.  The Globe covered it earlier this week.
    	Linda
818.4TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Thu May 16 1991 13:5031
    
    There was also a big article in last weeks Village Voice, although I
    haven't read it yet.  From what I've heard.. the basic gist was the
    general lack of resources, research, etc.  Some numbers comparing the
    vast amount of women afflicted each year - many more than are afflicted
    with AIDS.  
    
    There was a very hopeful article in the NY Times science section a few
    days ago about a tree sap serum (Northwest Yew maybe?) that has been 
    enormously successful in drastically decreasing - often completely 
    eliminating! - ovarian and breast tumors.  The problem is (of course 
    there's always a problem :-/), there are very few of these trees - 
    they've never been found 'useful' for anything else and are usually 
    cleared away without thought or notice.  Because they've never been 
    monitored before, authorities are having difficulty locating them..there 
    was a figure.. I think if you searched through a hundred acres of (Oregon) 
    forest you'd find these trees on 4 of them.  Also, it takes a lot of sap, 
    which translates to old, big trees, so many that they do find aren't even 
    useful (too small.)
    
    As of yet, noone has been able to successfully replicate the molecular
    structure in a laboratory so it can't be artificially reproduced.
    
    All in all, it was a very positive article and I had planned on typing
    it in when I had some time, but the paper was inadvertently thrown
    away...sorry.  I believe the science section is on Tuesdays, if anyone
    wants to look it up.
    
    Phyllis
    
    
818.5From a different political viewpointLEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarThu May 16 1991 14:0712
    	From the Wall Street Journal:
    	The reason that people are not being treated with the extract of
    the Pacific yew is that the trees are located in Spotted Owl habitat. 
    In this case environmental interests are preventing people from getting
    a drug which is effective in what would otherwise be hopeless cases
    	Also from the Wall street Journal:
    	A study of men with prostate cancer confirms the result of an
    EARLIER study on women with breast cancer.  Both studies show that
    patients are treated in accordance with chronological age rather than
    physical condition.  In other words older patients do not receive as
    good care as younger ones with the same condition.
    						John
818.6a poem lovely as a tree ...GEMVAX::KOTTLERThu May 16 1991 14:107
        
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    Thanks for entering that. Let's hope it doesn't also induce abortion...
    (like RU486)
    
    Dorian
818.7someone's working on synthetic "yew tree extract"DECWET::MCBRIDEIt may not be the easy way...Thu May 16 1991 15:4916
I saw a tiny article in the Seattle Times yesterday that said that
researchers may have synthesized an substitute for the yew tree extract
that has been used to treat cancer.  This substance, whose name escapes
me, has been known of since the '60s.  It's scarcity is not realated 
to spotted owls.  A person who has cancer now might feel that it 
would be worth using up some biodiversity in exchange for a cure.  But
that could elimitnate the next potential cure for cancer or AIDS or
something else.

The yew tree substance is apparently very complex and difficult to synthesize.
It seems to occur only in wild yew trees.  Attempts to get it from "farmed"
yew trees have not been sucessful.  But now it looks like there is a
breakthrough.  Maybe if funding priorities had been different, it wouldn't
have taken so long.

Mac
818.8Doctor recommendations pleaseCUPMK::LELLOSMon Jun 17 1991 17:3211
    At a recent eaxm, my mother-in-law was told she has 2 tumors in her
    breasts. Can anyone recommend a doctor (or surgeon) to perform a
    biopsy if necessary. She had this done before, but the doctor has since
    retired, and his office is not offering referrals. She is located in
    New Hampshire, but is willing to travel for good care.
    
    Please respond via mail if this is not the right note for replies.
    
    thanks very much,
    
    Peter Lellos
818.9MEWVAX::AUGUSTINEPurple power!Mon Jun 17 1991 18:086
Yes! Doctor Helen Cooksey of Watertown or Dr. Susan Love in Boston 
(Faulkner Hospital, I believe). Highly recommended.


Best of luck to you and your m-i-l. This is scary stuff.
Liz
818.10pointerLEZAH::BOBBITTpools of quiet fireTue Jun 18 1991 11:087
    See also:
    
    womannotes-V1
    251 - breast surgeon
    
    -Jody
    
818.11Try a Plastic SurgeonLJOHUB::GONZALEZlimitless possibilitiesTue Jun 18 1991 11:5418
    I had a plastic surgeon remove the lumps I had for biopsy. Result, 7
    months later, you have to look hard to find the scars. I went to her
    after another surgeon told me that with my  medical history of
    scarring, I'd be much better off.  Oh, yeah, the sensation seems pretty
    much unimpaired, too.

    Dr. Hytho Pantazelos of Emerson Hospital in Concord, MA.

    I have also heard great things about Dr. Susan Love.

    BTW, Interface Center in Watertown, MA is having a day long symposium
    on breast cancer featuring Dr. Love on Saturday, June 22. There may be
    still openings.

    Good luck to your Mom.  Not all lumps (tumors) are bad, only a biopsy
    can tell you the story.
    
        Margaret
818.12thanksCUPMK::LELLOSTue Jun 18 1991 13:133
Thanks for the responses and pointers so far. I'll pass the information along.

pl
818.13OCT is Awareness MonthDISORG::PARAVENTIThu Oct 03 1991 11:059
    October is Breast Cancer Awareness month.
    
    One in nine American women will be diagnosed with breast cancer.
    
    If you're due for a mammogram, why not schedule it.
    
    Remind a friend to schedule their's.
    
                           susan
818.14CGVAX2::CONNELLShivers and TearsThu Oct 03 1991 13:095
    Thank you Susan for the reminder. After what my mom has just gone
    through, I hope a pray that every woman gets a mammogram done. I never
    want to see this happen to anyone again.
    
    PJ
818.15when?MARLIN::IPBVAX::RYANMake sure your calling is trueThu Oct 03 1991 13:294
At what age should one start getting mamograms done? If there is a history in
the family, does this effect when you should start?

dee
818.1635BOMBE::HEATHERHeartbeats on the windThu Oct 03 1991 13:4818
    Well, I know they suggest a baseline to be done around age 35, and then
    every two to three years, depending on what your doctor thinks.  After
    40 they start asking for you to have one done yearly.  
    
    Now, IF you have a family history (I have one, big time) they will
    probably start you with a baseline a bit earlier than 35 and I have to
    have one every other year now and when I get to 40 every year, plus
    6 month checkups.  My doctor may be being a little cautious with me,
    but my family history is intense.....My mother had 12 other siblings
    of which only 5 are alive today, the others all died of several
    different forms of cancer, and my mother and one of my remaining aunts
    have both had radical masectomys.  Scared, me....You bet!
    
    Talk to your doctor then do what they think best, better safe than
    sorry!  Take care.
    
    bright blessings,
    -HA
818.17but don't count on them 100%.GEMVAX::BROOKSThu Oct 03 1991 13:566
    
    I'd just like to remind people that there are some types of breast cancer 
    that a mammogram can't detect...Mammograms together with monthly self-
    examination are the best insurance.
    
    Dorian 
818.18EEK!BOMBE::HEATHERHeartbeats on the windThu Oct 03 1991 13:593
    Thanks Dorian....How could *I* of all people forget to add that!
    
    -HA
818.19POCUS::FERGUSONZappa for President in 92Thu Oct 03 1991 21:1710
    If you're not considered to be at risk, then the recommended schedule
    is:
    
    One baseline betwwen ages 35-39
    One every other year betwwen 40-59
    Annually at 50 & up
    
    
    
    ginny
818.20hmmmmNOVA::FISHERRdb/VMS DinosaurFri Oct 04 1991 08:136
    ahhhh,
    
    One every other year betwwen 40-59
    Annually at 50 & up
    
    does not compute...
818.21oopsHOCUS::FERGUSONZappa for President in 92Fri Oct 04 1991 15:357
    Sorry, that's supposed to be "One every other year between 40-49"
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    There was so much garbage on my line last night that I couldn't see
    what I was typing.
    
    Ginny
818.22Don't Underestimate Your Risk!!!USCTR2::VRUHEWed Oct 16 1991 15:2025
    Please don't dismiss these important messages by thinking you're not at
    risk.
    
    According to my surgeon, ALL WOMEN WITH BREASTS ARE AT RISK!!!!! 
    If you have a family history, smoke, or have a diet that contains more
    than 30 grams of fat daily, your risk is increased. 
    
    Across the country, one in nine women can expect to get breast cancer.
    California statistics are one in eight, and New England Area is very 
    close to one in seven.  This is an epidemic which will hopefully become
    more visible through awareness projects, (like the march in Boston on
    10/27) good information in magazines, and word of mouth.  The good news
    is that it's curable 80% of the time if caught early.  And take it from
    one who knows, living in the aftermath of this devastating disease is
    so much better than the alternative.
    
    Wishing you good health -
    
      Ginny Ruhe
    
    
    
    
    
      
818.23MR4DEC::EGRACEINvalidation out the wazooWed Oct 16 1991 15:514
    Ginny Ruhe, do you know *why* the risks are so much greater in New
    England than elsewhere?
    
    E Grace