Conference turris::womannotes-v3

    Hi all. I'm Phil Connell. I've just started to become active in V2 and
    now it's time to get into a new volume. I live in Hudson N.H and work
    at NQO (DECDirect Order Fullfillment, the warehouse) in incoming
    inspection. 
    
    I'm 37 years old, divorced father of 2 teenager's. Amy, my daughter is
    leaving for Europe tomorrow and I'm nervous as heck. I'm here to mostly
    read and learn. (Read: raised conciousness) I'll reply once in a while
    and maybe more as my courage and knowledge grows.
    
    I read quite a few other Notesfiles (N.H, Dejavu, Mennotes, H_R,
    Comics) and so far this is the only one I've felt any large degree of
    comfort replying in. Thank you all for that.
    
    
                                 Phil

        Andy Fraser  -  been in this file since the very first version,
        when 'Davina' raised some ire.
        
        Now in CSS at MKO1.
        
        Still in 'learn' mode.
        

    
    seattle, washington
    conductor of the rainier symphony and systems person for decwest
    started reading three months after v1 opened for business
    feminist...getting more radical all the time...
    
    words cannot express how happy it makes me to see v3 and to see
    the terrific job our dear moderators have done setting things up.
    the magic continues...
    

Hi!!!

My name is John Heffernan and I work in CAG in ZK02 in Nashua having
been with Digital for 5 years.  I am a Principal Software Engineer and
project leader on a product called Data Access Facility (DAF).  
Enough of the boring stuff!  ;-)

I am interested in seeing clearly what role my own cultural
conditioning has in my own life.  Sometimes when I think I am aware
and "cured" of most of it; I find out that I am not.  I am
interested in living a life where all beings are seen as they are
without preconditioned thoughts due to their race, sex, or physical
appearance, political beliefs, sexual preference, or current
life situation.

I am concerned with the way women and other groups are treated and
have been treated in the past.  And I am also interested in how the
cultural conditioning to the in-power group affects and constrains my
own life.  

Currently, I am a practizing Zen Buddhist and meditator and am
interested in both "sprititual" and political issues and especially
how they interelate. I am also active in the environmental, peace
movement, feminist, and Native American issues.  For fun, I love to
juggle, dance, dance juggling, keeping in shape, reading, baking,
cooking, and music (all kinds but listened to the alot of folk, jazz,
and Grateful Dead of late).   The other great joy in my life in
working at Children's Hospital as a volunteer every Wednesday night. 
I also perform there once every two months with a friend who does
magic and juggling.  I'm taking some dance lessons to get some ideas
about incorparating more and interesting dance moves into my routines.  

I live alone in Acton, MA and am currently single.  Reading my last
intro, I noted that I was involved with a strident, rabid,
glass-chewing feminist and I wanted to read this file to understand
where she was coming from.  Well, that happened and I made many
wonderful friends from this file and came to understand women and
myself a little better (we hope ;-).  

In my last intro I wrote, "I have no idea what I will contribute or learn
from this conference but no doubt something will happen."

peace,
john

    Ad Vissers, Central Response Group, Utrecht, The Netherlands (to be
    called Holland from now on). As I said in V2 note 3.116 my primary goal
    here is to find some more input to learn from, but let me add to that
    that I really appreciate the considerate style of this conference. I
    must admit that sometimes I still feel I'm not quite adapted to that
    yet. 
    
    To tell some personal things: I'm 32, single, and share my apartment
    with two cats. I like music (almost everything except C&W and
    Schlagers), film, SF, travel, noting, photography, and I'm (almost)
    always game for few drinks in a nice bar and meet a few new people.
    
    Around the net I can be found in EF90 (comod), Friends (comod),
    Conversation (comod) (well I like drivel sometimes!), Human_Relations,
    Euro-woman, World_Forum, and a few unnannounced and even some technical
    ones. 
    
    I'm happy to see V3, and I wish it all my best.
    
    Ad

    I'm Alan Ross, still a Systems-type and still residing in PKO.
    (Some things never seem to change).
    
    I've been participating in -WN- since the summer of 1987.
    
    I'm married, and have two grown children from my first marriage.
    
      Alan

    G'Day,
    
    	I'm David Wales from Sydney, Australia!  I make up 25% of the
    Aussie =wn= readership.  I am a CS Engineer working in the Logistics
    Repair Centre at Lane Cove, Sydney (SNL).
    
    	I'm almost (1 more week) 28, married with no kids.  Been with DEC
    for just over 5 years.
    
    	=wn= version 2 was fun (most of the time) so let's see if we can
    get version 3 off to a good start and keep it that way.
    
    David.
    

    Hello all, I'm Charles Haynes. I work in Palo Alto California as a
    programmer. I've been living with Janice Comstock since 1975, we were
    married in 1985. We have one kid (so far) - Kai Comstock - born April 5,
    1990. We have two cats Teddy and Scheherezad (abyssinians). Janice is a
    programmer too, but not with DEC.

    I've been with DEC since 1984, working on various things having to do with
    Unix and workstations.

    I'm moderately tall, and fairly thin, with waist length black hair and an
    earring. I tend to dress in engineer drag - t-shirt and levis.

    I like rock climbing, whitewater rafting, downhill skiing, backpacking,
    reading trashy SF, "artsy" depressing foreign movies - especially
    Japanese, programming, cooking, eating, and my beautiful baby boy.

    I'm a strident feminist - reproductive rights division.

        -- Charles

    I am Pat Wilson and I work at DVO in facilities.  I am mostly a "read
    only person" in =wn=.

    My wife, Nancy and I have been married for 5 years now and our first 
    child is due this December.  We also share the house with two cats and
    two dogs.

    Blessed Be,
    Pat  

    
    	I am George Bushee and I work out of FXO in Franklin, Mass. :^(
    
    	I've been with DEC a little over 19 years. My title is Project
    	Engineering Tech, basically I write test programs to test incoming
    	memory chips.
    
    	I'm 43, a divorced single parent with a 18 1/2 year old son with
    	me and a 22 year old daughter out on her own in New Mexico.
    
    	G_B

Jim Henderson, Priority Operations manager for Customer Services Logistics
in Andover, MA.

Been with DEC for 13 years (in August).  Since joining Digital I've lived
in Colorado Springs (twice), Phoenix and here in New England, originally from
Northern California (silicon valley area).  One of these days I want to wind
up somewhere west of here.  Divorced for 3 months, 3 boys  19, 13 and 7 all of
whom live with their mother.  So far we have a friendly divorce and I have easy
access to the kids.

Up to now I've been 100% read only.  I have found the conference helpful as
I adjust to being single again (loving it so far), and as I seek to grow.

Other interests include reading, long walks, music (mostly Grateful Dead and
blues oriented music) dancing, cooking, and slowly getting into excersize.


Jim

    I'm David  Wittenberg,  and  I  work  in Architecture and Advanced
    Development in the Secure Systems Group.  

    I'm getting  married  on  June 3, and most of my energy these days
    goes into planning the wedding.

    I've been in earlier versions of =wn=, and am just returning after
    a  two month absence. I'm hoping that this version will be able to
    control  some  of the ping-pong noting that drove me away from the
    last version.

--David

	I'm Doug Gordon, and on this, my 30th birthday, I think it's
appropriate for me to sign in to V3.  I'm here because, in the words of
Gregory McDonald's character I. M. Fletcher, "I collect people."

	I'm a Software Specialist IV (what a silly title) working for
Internal Software Services (ISWS) out of Parker Street, but for my nearly
four years at DEC I've been contracted to Manufacturing Engineering
Information Systems in Tewksbury.  I've been reading =wn= since the first
week I was at DEC.  I do software and system management.  I generally
describe my job as "jack-of-all-trades, resident lighting designer and
director of pyrotechnic effects."

	There are probably a lot of changes coming in the next couple of
months.  I bought a house in Nashua, (closing in mid-May) and will be
looking to move my job towards NH in the near future to dodge the double
tax bite.

	I've stuck out what I consider some low content periods in previous
versions of =wn= because the "me" of today is much more aware of some
things than the "me" of four years ago, largely because of this file.  I am
the product of all the people I encounter which tends to make me a liberal
moderate with a random crazy streak.

	Outside of work, I used to be the resident lighting designer for
the Walpole Footlighters and have even appeared on stage.  Distance from
Walpole has curtailed that activity, but I will probably be looking for a
new group in the fall. I attaend the theater as oftean as my schedule and
budget permit.  Reading & Music are also big on my list.

	Around the net, you can find me here, or in ASKENET, THEATRE,
HACKERS (all of which I host & co-moderate), H_R, and some fourty other
conferences I keep up with as much as possible.

	I'm "mostly harmless" and attend most of the =wn= parties.  Perhaps
now that I own a house, I'll offer to host one.

	I don't really know what got into me today, my previous intros have
been much shorter than this.  Ah yes, and I sign my notes with either "--D"
or:

						--Doug

    Name:	Marty Jack
    Location:	ZKO (Spit Brook Road, Nashua NH)
    Job:	Consulting Software Engineer, DHSG
		At DEC 13 years.  I've done languages, operating systems,
    		graphics, utilities, a little real-time, a little hardware.
    Personal:	40, only child, married to Barbara Bazemore (another member
    		of this community).

    Why did I start reading?  Lunchtime discussion with JimB.  Why do
    I keep reading?  It brings a smile to my lips, a tear to my eye,
    and a thought to my brain.  I will write on occasion when I believe
    I can contribute a fresh insight.  I get a lot from this file, but
    time pressures often prevent me from participating more actively.

    Dana L. Charbonneau
    
    SPO - Springfield, Mass. plant
    
    WHOAREYOU  #  741
  
    started in V1, stuck in V2, a toast to V3

    I'm Douglas C Buckland, although most people know me as Bob.
    
    I'm a Program Manager working out of the Ottawa office in Canada.
    I've been with Digital in England, and now in Canada, since 1977
    with a short break when I immigrated to Canada.
    
    I'm married (21 years) to a woman I met on a blind date when I was
    working in Myanmar - my first job after university.  Have one son
    (17) who seems to spend more of my money than I do.
    
    Came into =wn= as a reader last summer, decided I like it here and
    now feel comfortable writing as well as reading.  Still however
    in learn mode, probably always will be.  Have noticed an increased
    awareness of some of the subtle sexism in society since I've been
    here so I am getting something from this.  Hopefully at some time
    I can contribute something back.
    
    Cheers,
    		Bob
       

Mark Metcalfe

  Technical Software Writer  
  Digital Start date: December 15, 1986

Persuasions:

  Traditional values but not to the exclusion of good sense; ideas stand 
  on their own merits.

  Religious in the sense that I am an active church member (for your
  definitions); I do not place my faith in my religion but rather my
  religion is an expression of my faith.

  I have opinions on almost anything, some less firm than others; I attempt
  to try ideas in the courtroom of objectivity.  Being strongly opined
  in one direction does not need to mean closed-minded.

Personal Information:

  Husband of 11 years
  Father of three daughters and one son (ages 10, 7.5, 4, and 1.8)
  Son for 30 years
  Brother to three male siblings (no sisters)
  Coca-Cola Classic is my preferred beverage
  Sporadic noter (who has the time to keep up?); mostly read-only in WN
  

    
    Since I have been following this NOTES FILE for quite sometime and
    replied to several notes ... I guess I should introduce myself.
    
    NAME: Gary Cable
    
    JOB: Principal Maintainablilty Engineer
    	(wow! thats a mouth full)
    
    LOCATION: Colorado Springs (CXO1)
    
    YEARS W/ DEC: 18
    
    Married to One Wonderful person for 22 years. 
    
    Two beautiful daughters.
    
    
    	I became interested in this file because of some problems that I
    was having with my oldest daughter ... I wanted to find out if there
    was some way that I could do a better job of communicating with her.
    
    	I have read many interesting notes in this File that have given me
    insight to things that I was not aware of.
    
    	I've only been a Father of girls (ok ... women ...now)for 19 years,
    but nobody ever gave me an instruction manual. It's been a new
    experience each step of the way.
    
    

    
    Wes Mallory
    Artificial Intelligence Information Services
    DLB5-1/E9
    291-8307
    
    I was registered in V2 and also WHOAREYOU # 1050
    
    wes
    

    Hi, I'm Dan Penny, an Industrial Eng. at the KAO (Kanata, Canada)
    facility. I'm married (13 yrs. in Nov.), and we have two wonderful
    children; Michael who's eight on the thirteenth of this month, and
    Nebraska, who turned five the end of February. 
    
        I'm going to be forty (wow, already!) in August. I'm mostly a read
    only, finding out how women view things, which certainly helps in my
    own relationship. Yes, we've had our ups and downs, but it sure is
    getting better, and this file helps that. You'll see an occasional
    reply from me here and there. Glad to "meet" all of the noters here.
    dep

    I'm still more or less Ray Davis.
    
    During weekdays I can be found at ZKO, Gnashua NH.  During nights and
    weekends, I'm in Cambridge and Boston (with fairly frequent jaunts to
    NYC).
    
    I'm one of those most grisly of beasts, the apolitical male "feminist". 
    
    I read, eat, drink, watch films, talk, write, listen to music, and
    wander on foot.  Hot buttons include dehumanization, dull mainstream
    art, journalism, attacks on birth control rights, and conformity. 
    Pleasure centers include the English language, harsh medicine (honesty,
    for example), aestheticism, cities, eccentricity, and cool weather.
    
    My =wn= persona is too cautious for my tastes but that's life in the
    big city...  I also note in RADIO_RADIO, BOOKS, JOYOFLEX, and the usual
    suspects.
    
    Ray

    hi my name is jonathan, and you probably won't be reading very much
    who may have something to say, but not the words with which to say 
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    siy am i writing my introduction like this?  probably because i iif
    l he.  not that i really am, or maybe everybody is in their ownhnt
    atwue unique than others?  oh well, it doesn't really matter.  at.m
    ua qrution to the community.  don't worry, i shan't be writinssve e
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    Hi Wommannoters,
    
    Fred Mudgett
    Baltimore Field Service
    Father of Timothy Mudgett (age 2 months, already showing signs of
    significantly higher than average intellegence)
    
    I love my wife, kids and my bike (a TREK 1100).
    
    

    Regular stuff:
    
    	Steve Mallett
    	Maynard (the Mill)
    	New Product Operations (part of L.E.S.M. or L.S.M.F.T or something)
    	  Personnel Specialist; current job task: design and write a
    	  Human Resource Development Manangement system.  At the moment
    	  I'm coding the User Abuse module.
    	13 years with Digital, all of them in Manufacturing (yes, I
    	  know; this explains a great deal).  I'm currently looking over
	  "the package" and odds are pretty fair that I won't be around
	  to do this again in Womannotes-V4.
    	
    Semi-personal stuff:

	Residence: Sudbury, Ma. (wherein lies the corporate headquarters
	  of Barking Spider Industries and it's wholly owned subsidiary,
	  Barking Spider Studios)
	Marital status: separated
	Live-in companion: J. Fujington Dinkweed, IV, esq, pats. pend.
	  (a.k.a. "Fuji", a.k.a. "the Fuj", a.k.a. "walking furball").
	  As cats go, he's a pretty decent dude, but that's no accident
	  because I trained him to believe he's a golden retriever and
	  he, being the dim bulb that he is, fell for it.
	Chronological age: 42
	Emotional age: 14

    Somewhat more intimately personal stuff:

	Looks: I'm often mistaken for Mel Gibson, Kevin Costner, or
	  Tom Cruise except when the Moon is in Pisces at which time
	  I tend to resemble Howdy Doody or Margaret Thatcher.
	Attitude/temperament: really sensitive Alan Alda type of
	  guy except when I'm being wicked macho like Mr. T.  Pretty
	  much your garden variety cross between Hulk Hogan and
	  Mr. Rogers.
	Alter Ego: Entertainment craftsperson (music, theater, etc.)
	  Actually, to me, this Digital gig is my "alter" ego and the
	  entertainment business thing is really "home" to me.  I started
	  at Digital as a contract worker between school semesters and
	  when I was offered a permanent job, I told myself, "Well, I'll
	  just do it for a year. . ."  
	Spiritual leaders: Ram Dass, Jesus Christ, Moe, Larry, and Curly
	Secular heros: My father, Lily Tomlin, Martin Luther King, Jr.,
	  Eric Clapton, Foghorn Leghorn, The Firesign Theater
	
    Favorite quotes: 

	"Sometimes the magic works; sometimes it doesn't." 
		(Chief Dan George in "Little Big Man")
	"It may turn out that human intelligence will be just one 
	 of Nature's failed experiments."
		(Unknown, but I'm sure it wasn't me)
	"It's not who you love or how you love that counts; only
	 that you love."
		(John Lennon to Brian Epstein)
	"I think we're all Bozos on this bus."
		(The Firesign Theater)
	"Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate"
		(Anonymous)
	"Never forget your nano-seconds."
		(Rear Adm. Grace Hopper)
	"You no-good son of a cross-eyed swab jockey!"
		(my father)
	"Moe!  Larry!  The cheese. . .No!  No!  The *Limboigah*"
		(Curly Howard)

    Like, *really* intimate stuff that I probably should keep to myself,
    but I'll tell you only if you promise to never tell anyone else:

	Secret hope: to play in a band with Ann Wilson (of Heart)
	Secret fear: Ann discovers what a mediocre musician I really am.
	Sexual preferences: species with scales, mayonnaise, exotic
    	  locations (e.g. hydro-electric power plants, Newark, etc.)
	Embarrasing moment: Years ago in Germany after a, um, social
	  interlude with a young woman.  She made it clear that she
	  really did, uh, that is, she really *did* have. . .uh. . .well, 
	  you know.  Anyway, despite the fact that I hadn't a clue as to 
	  what I'd done (or not done) that time to contribute to such
	  an obviously delightful ending, I was real pleased with my
	  bad self, doncha know.  Then I stopped and thought about my
	  previous encounters and realized that, despite partners'
	  assurances that it had been "wonderful", this was the first
	  time it really had been "wonderful".  Worse than that, I
	  was too embarassed to ask what it was I should(n't) do to
	  ensure that next time around my partner could have another
	  "wonderful".  Ahh, youth. . .
	Words I'd love to hear again: "Digital Equip. Corp. closed
	  today at 189�."
	Words I never want to hear again: "You are hereby remanded to
	  the State of Texas' Department of Corrections for a period
	  of not less than two nor more than 12 years."
	
    (The all-important) Why I Participate in Womannotes:

	While it's true that at one time I had motives that even
	I myself understood only vaguely, I've found that with
	the passage of time and water that I'm increasingly more
	concerned with the moral, ethical, existential and 
	mathematical questions which, failing clear resolution,
	will no doubt lead inquisitive minds towards higher
	planes of de-evolution and social unrest.
	
	What was the question again?

    My name is Michael Turro. Ive been with DEC 13 yrs. 4 years in Marlboro
    Mass working in manufacturing back when DEC 10 and 20s were hot.
    The last 9 years spent in Customer Services in the (MAA) in Washington D.C.
    
    Im married for 12 years and live in Maryland (Millersville). We have 3
    children .Christopher 11yrs,Jessica 8yrs,Anne 4yrs.
    
    Ive been reading =WM= for over a year and rarely write or reply.
    
    I have been curious as to the bashing both sexes have been taking in
    this conference the last 6 months. Other than that I find it
    interesting to read.
    
    Mike 

    
    Ron Brown
    
    Been with DEC 2 yrs. and 9 mos. (has it been that long!), all of them
    at ZKO (Nashua, NH), and all of them writing documentation for project
    management software.  Having done battle at 3 other companies since
    1975, I'm enjoying the relative sanity of DEC.
    
    Married 15 years this October to my best friend, also a DECcie.  We
    enjoy cats, dogs, old houses, antiques, cooking (because it means
    eating), and, most of all, being able to enjoy them together.  She
    supplies the planning, judgement, and ambition -- I can reach things
    on the top shelf.
    
    I'm mostly read only, and write when I feel I can add a thought or
    perspective.  I'm here because my best friends are women -- I enjoy
    their company and their point of view.  Also, by being here, I hope
    that I can stay sensitive to those points of view and find new ways
    of being supportive of my best friend.
    
    Thanks for all I've learned,
    Ron

    
    	Thomas E. Ehnstrom
    	A.K.A. Thom Terriffic
    
    	I've been with DEC for 13 years and am an Information Systems
    Specialist.  I currently work in the Mill at Telecommunications.
    
    	I'm vey happily married, working on my 19th year and have helped
    co-produce 3 children (1 girl, 14, 2 boys, 12 and 7).  I live in 
    The Town Of Templeton in northern Worcester County.
    
    	I'm mostly a read only noter but interject things "when I feel the
    need".  

    Hello, and belated congrats to the WomanNotes community on the
    new version.
    
    My curious work situation is to be an engineer in a marketing group,
    Laboratory Data Products/Science marketing in MRO4. Currently one of
    the designated vectorheads here (as in VAX Vectors, recent new optional
    architectural feature of VAXen). I'm a displaced Wisonsinite, living
    in Westford, MA. I rarely write, but read most notes that appear to
    have a good light/heat ratio. What feminist enlightenment I have is
    probably thanks mostly to a particular one of four delightful sisters,
    and to my instinctive appreciation of what's known as Women's Music.

    See v-2 for me... note 69 and 138.. 
    
    REK
    
    PS DOne on purpose!

Hello All,

I've been reading thru V2 of this conference off and on for a couple of years,
find it thought provoking, figured I may as well introduce myself.

I'm Karl Reebenacker, learning to be a System Test Engineer in low end systems
at PKO. I started working here a little over a month ago after making good my 
escape from FXO 8^), with a much needed week of carving up some Rocky Mountain 
snow in between jobs. I was a Hardware Engineer, am now a Software Engineer, 
talk about culture shock.

I'm recently divorced, amicably w/no kids, and a fanatical skier starting to
experience withdrawal symptoms. Participate in several other Notes conferences,
mostly read only. Actively note in, you guessed it, SKIING. Been a Deccie for 
3.5 years.

My political leanings tend to be moderate to conservative Republican. I 
wouldn't vote for Mike Dukakis for dogcatcher. I'm pro choice but, for reasons 
that are my own, personally uncomfortable with the idea of abortion. I 
consider myself a "humanist".

I'll probably continue to participate in a 99+% read only mode here, but may
enter a note on occaision.

    
    Several years with Digital, working in the Atlanta Southern Area Hdqs
    facility.
    
    I have posted a note or two in the DIGITAL and MARKETING conferences
    expressing my thoughts on life and Digital so I won't be redundant
    here in this reply.
    

    Hi, Bob Reilly here
     I work at the Mill (MLO) security. x2yrs
     before DEC, E.M.T  on Ambulance 6years,7 years Army medic
    Married to DECCY 2 years. And happy as can be.
    
    found this file refer to in mens note. The more I can learn about life
    the better I can become.....
    

    Hello.
    
    Brian Patman, based at Shire Hall, Reading, UK.  Work in Human Resource
    Development and Training.  With Digital 18 months.  Previously in
    teaching, preventive medicine and HRD consultancy.
    
    I am married to Rebecca.  We have four children: Henry (Hal) aged
    9, Edward (6), Beatrice (22 months) and Olivia (7 weeks).
    
    The motives which drive my interest and participation in this
    conference are similar to those which drive my career and family
    life, and my involvement with the "People First" group in the UK:
    I care for/about all people and seek to understand and appreciate
    them even more.
    
    Slainthe mhair!
    
    Brian

    Haven't been in here for awhile.  Lo and behold I see the version has
    changed.  I've enjoyed V2, V3 can only get better.
    
    Jerry Witman
    Customer Services Manager
    Orlando, Florida
    
    22+ years Deccie (Don't remember what we call ourselves way back when)
    Hobbies:Family/Photography/Disney/Notes
    

    Tony Purmal
    Software Specialist
    EIS/E Mountain View, CA
    Married to Lesley
    Have a son Colin (he'll be 5 in July)
    Live in San Jose, CA.
    
    However:
    
    o My job is moving to Bloomfield, CT and I have yet to decide
      whether or not to relocate.
    
    o My wife and I are working towards separation.
    
    o I'll definitely be moving whether or not I take the job in CT.  That
      will decide if its a big move, or a small one.
    
    I'll post another introduction when things settle down a bit.
    
    Tony

    Slightly updated introduction from V2 ...
    
    Name:	Paul Beck
    Location:	Spit Brook (Nashua NH)
    Job:	Consulting Software Engineer, VMS Development, where I'm
		DECnet-VAX consultant. At DEC since 1977.
    Personal:	Have been married for 13 years. My wife is also at
		DEC, a Senior Consulting Engineer also in VMS Development.
		I have one brother (older), two sisters (younger). I'm 41
		but don't look a day over 41.

    Hi,

    I guess I should put an intro in since I'll be coming to the IV party
    (I had one in V2)
    
    I'm John Wood, 42, divorced, single parent of an almost 16 year old
    daughter (who frequently acts like she is closer to 25).  I live and
    work in Nashua.
    
    I've been with Digital for 16� years and am a software product manager.
    
    I've been reading this file for a couple of years now and have
    learned a lot.  I'm a 99% read-only noter, but have contributed on
    rare occasions.

    I still have a lot of learning and growing to do.
    
    Thanks for helping...
    

    Heylo.  I'm Daniel Katz, a 21 year-old TAG on his last leave term
    before returning to Dartmouth College to get my BA in English
    Literature and Creative Writing.
    
    Before anyone asks, yes, there is a lot of pig-ignorant sexism at
    Dartmouth, but we're working on changing that.  Some people just
    need to have it chiseled out of them.
    
    I've just recently started reading this note, and am enjoying it
    immensely -- makes my editorial columnist instincts twitch again.
    
    And let's see...the biggest hoot I've had at DEC so far is...
    
    "You're a SECRETARY????"
    
    I had to deal with that a lot the last time I was on leave term,
    doing essentially the same job.  I got a lot of calls for "Danielle"
    Katz. Hee.
    
    Daniel

    Hi, My name is Kevin C. Hayes most people call me K.C. but most people
    think they're calling me Casey. I am a temp working as a COM Operator
    in PK01. I worked for DEC for seven years as an employee, left the
    company for other opportunites that turned out good for about a year,
    then went sour. Now I'm trying to get back in the door.(not the best
    time I know) I spent some time as a Technician and some time in
    Purchasing/Planning with DEC.
    
    I like this file to help me better understand woman, its great. 
    
    I'm married to Laurie Hayes, Laurie is an Account Executive for
    Hogg Robinson Ins Agency. We have a great 3 1/2 year old son named
    Kevin.
    
    K.C.

    Name:	Dave Lewis
    Location:	Colorado Springs CX03/CSC
    Job:	Started as Field Engineer, then System Support Engineer,
    		now VMS Internal Support Group at CX03, been with DEC
    		13 years.
    Personal:	Married to Patricia (Pat), she also works at CX03 in RDG,
    		she was formerly an Ed. Services Pricipal Instructor, with
    		DEC 10 years. Pat and I have been married just over a year
    		(July 2nd), I'll be 37 in September.

    Name:          Ray Moore
    Location:      Albuquerque
    Job:           Started at DEC in 1979, Started out as an assembler and
                   a Test Tech and now am a Manf. Spec II
    
    
    
    
                                       

    Name:	Jim Williams
    Location:	Maynard, PK03
    Job:	Principal Software Engineer / Software Architect for the
    		RT-11 (PDP-11) operating system. [Yes, we still sell
    		PDP-11s and just announced a new model 11/9x last DECUS.]
    		I've worked for Digital nearly 11 years, always in the same
    		group (an oddity, I'm sure).
    Personal:	I'm married, with an 11 year old son and, come 21 August,
    		with a teenaged exchange student from Germany.  My wife is
    		the director of the Littleton, MA public library.		
    
    		We live in Ayer, MA.
    
    		I'm on the standing committee (governing board) of the
    		Unitarian Church in Littleton and on the planning board of
    		the Town of Ayer. I was raised in West By God Virginia.

    Name:	Walter Battistella
    Location:	Toronto, Ontario, Canada, TRO
    Work:	CS/Central Geographic Software Support Engineer - supporting
    		CS technicians in VMS, Clusters and Networks.  I've worked
    		at Digital since 1984 - in this job since 1986 - previously
    		in SWS.
    Personal:	I'm Married to a divorced, intelligent woman who is older
    		than me (much to the dismay of my mother) and I am 34 years
    		old.  I have a stepson who is 20 years old studying
    		Mathematics and Physics in university.
    		My wife used to be a computer operations supervisor but
    		left that business because she found it to be extemely
    		anti-woman and now works for herself.
    		Unlike most guys, I don't like sports.
    		I also would rather stay at home or go out with my wife
    		than go out with the boys.  I have been labelled a
    		'feminist' and have become proud of it.

    I've been reading and participating in =wn= since a few months after 
    I joined Digital over 2 years ago.  Prior to that, I'd spent four years
    on active duty in the Air Force, following four years of college and
    AFROTC.  Those eight-plus years involved some heavy supression within
    myself of character traits that weren't convenient nor acceptable in
    the male-oriented world of a military officer.  I found =wn= to be a
    wonderful place to help me examine my attitudes and re-adjust, after
    that self-suppressing experience.  This community gave me strength,
    challenged my motivations, taught me to listen, and enabled me to
    change my life, far to the better.  This journey is not easy, and its
    not over; nor shall it ever be.  But I am now a radical feminist.
    Joyously.  Thank you, womannotes.
    
    DougO

    John Papa
    Principal Engineer 
    Live and work in Colorado Springs.
    Divorced
    Single Parent
    4 Children, 2 girls, 2 boys. 3 live at home with me.

   Since I opened my mouth in 273.*

   Kenn Jackson
   Divorced 9 years, remarried for 8 yrs
   Wonderful second wife
   3 beautiful daughters 
     2 from prior marriage
     1 from current marriage
   Love camping, fishing/hunting, being outdoors in wonderful
   Colorado and just being a family

    I'm an occasional reader, and put in my first note today, 281.
    I used to be active in various other notes conferences a year
    or two ago. While it has been a nice way to connect with 
    one or two people who feel strongly about the same things 
    as I do, I do not find this a very effective medium for 
    non-technical communication especially with people I know 
    very little about. I anticipate remaining in mostly read-only
    mode. Lately I've been following the "animal rights" discussion
    here with great interest (I was raised a vegetarian and have
    chosen to remain one).
    
    Originally from India, US resident for the last seven years, 
    engineer with the Marlboro facility for the last three.
    
    Ganesh.
    DTN 297-7313. 
    

    No, I haven't introduced myself yet.
    
    An old time noter checks in - now past 10 years at Digital,
    my first job out of college.  Began here as a mechanical engineer
    working with "widgets", now I'm a software engineer working with
    "widgets".
    
    The "-mr. bill" nickname predates SNL by a few years.
    
    Erica and I live in half of a two family house in Arlington.  Erica is
    an artist (it's official, saw her name in "Art in America" this month,
    so she must be) who also teaches "fibers" at Rhode Island College and
    Massachusetts College of Art.
    
    								-mr. bill
    

    G'day from Downunder,
    
     Having like others dared to venture here by replying to a note, I
    guess I'd better say a few things about me and mine - or should that be
    ours?
    
    
    Married allbut 23 years, to Patricia. Two sons, Peter 20(studying Law and
    Economics = LLb, B Econ with majors in finance and accounting)
     and Mark (studying Applied Science [biological and chemical
    technologies] 18.
    
     Been in Oz for 12 years, but originally from Reading, UK (in fact Dad
    lives within cooee of Decpark)
    
    Pretty much a tradionalist, I guess with some still intact ideas of
    place and favour, but pretty much willing to accept people as they
    are. I believe we all have a place and something to fulfil, so although
    I may not agree with some sentiments I respect others' rights to hold
    them ( and expect them to know when to keep it to themselves).
    

    Been with digital now for 3.5 years, currently with SPR EIC, formerly
    SWS/Engineering, as a Senior S/w Engineer.
    
    Interests: Scout leader (14-18 yo boys and girls)
               First Aid Instructor
               Just joined Bush (Volunteer) Fire Brigade.
               Boating when I have time, ;-|
               and the family (naturally)
    
    Hates - gardening - if I could, I'd concrete the lot and paint it green
    
    
    
    Derek Whorlow
     

    Hello.  My name is Mike Valenza.   In order to better introduce myself,
    I have compiled the following list of personal attributes:
    
    o  Hobbies:  none.
    o  Obsessions:  notes.
    o  Compulsions:  notes.
    o  Addictions:  blue corn chips, chicken fajitas, and pop tarts.
    o  Virtues:  none.
    o  Vices:  notes.
    o  Best Physical Feature:  Several women have told me that I have nice
    legs.  Well, okay, it was just one woman.  And she was joking at the
    time.  Come to think of it, I have no best physical feature.
    o  Worst Physical Feature:  I refuse to answer that question.
    o  Future plans:  In the future, I plan to continue to participate in
    notes.
    o  Favorite thing about notes:  no one knows what I look like.
    o  Least favorite thing about notes:  for some reason, many people
    seem to think that my last name starts with the letter "z".
    
    I would like to thank the moderators of this conference for allowing me
    to introduce myself here.  This is a fine community of people, and this
    conference serves as a thought provoking and intellectually stimulating
    forum.  And the best part of all--this place is just loaded with chicks.

    -- Mike

    I'm Bill Kohlbrenner, 54 years, tall, thin, balding, bearded.
    
    I've been around Digital since 1973, as employee, then contractor,
    then employee again.  I am currently a software engineer, working
    on VAX DOCUMENT, in Spit Brook (ZKO).
    
    I was married for 23 years (4 grown kids), am divorced 6 years.
    
    I suppose I am a "masculinist," which is someone who puts his 
    energy into wrestling with the same screwed up culture that
    feminists wrestle with, but with the focus on how the system
    adversely affects men, rather than women.   
    
    I'm here to give and take.

    I'm a  long-time DEC employee (13 years) who's been in Westminster,
    Marlboro, Northboro and now Ayr in a variety of managerial positions.
    
    I'm mostly a RON'er, but occasionally get infected with Male Answer
    Syndrome and will reply.
    
    I hesitate to put any labels down 'cause I'm constantly changing
    (I think it's called being alive) so by the time you read this,
    I'll be a different person. 
    
    A relatively stable label is my desire for growth and learning,
    hence my reading of this file. I appreciate the generosity and openness
    of the frequent contributors. 
    
    Cheers,
    	George

    
     Jack Flathers
     37 yrs old ( young )
     married 18 yrs...........son,16 + daughter 14.
     Software Specialist for C/S.
    
      I've been an occasional reader/writer.  But with the recent debate
    over Victor K. + Lisa O., I've made many entries. So, it best that
    I introduce myself.
    

    Bob Reilly , I think I was in the old notes but here goes
     now working at LJO. Born and raise on Long Island N.Y.
    and am now a New Englander (sounds like a DAWG)
    
    I think this file is very good...It helps if we understand about
    each other. Since we are all on this earth together..

    Not being read-only anymore, I guess I ought to introduce myself.  My
    name is Neil Sherman.  I am currently a co-op (working on a second
    bachelor's degree) working with the ASIC design group at FXO.  I am 25
    years old, and greatly looking forward to the end of my days as a
    student (until grad school, anyway).  
    
    Some of the other notesfiles that I like are Eats, Audio, H_R,
    Mennotes, Moans, and Grateful.  I am mostly a reader, but I try to
    reply when I think there is something new to say.  I enjoy notes a lot,
    and I always get a kick out of meeting noters "for real".
    
    I sign my notes "Nool", a name given to me during my first college
    experience.  Nool is a hybrid of Neil, cool, and tool (as in tooling
    around, not "he's a tool").  See you all in virtual wonderland ;)
    

    Ciao from Italy!
    
    I'm Andy Takats, 29, married to an Italian woman with a big friendly
    family.  After 6 years in the states, we're back here (I lived here 2
    years before we got married and moved to the U.S.), this time with
    our fun daughter Selene (2.4), for an undetermined period.  I'm
    going to finally study some architecture, we'll try living here for
    while, and then we'll see.   There's never a shortage of challenges
    with international relationships; so far we're doing OK.  
    
    I've become very sensitive to women's issues over the years living with
    Antonella, and especially now with Selene.  A few months ago, after 
    hearing about Model Mugging at my old work (MASSCOMP/Concurrent), I
    encouraged Antonella to take the course; she did, and it was a good
    learning experience for her and for me.
    
    I'm with DEC temporarily at the moment as a consultant (here only 2 
    weeks); I'm not sure how long I'll be around, but it's  great to
    be able to follow events, etc., in the U.S.  I'll be in touch.
    
    Ciao!
    AndyT.
    Italy so far is so(we met in
    Spain) are 
    I am here again for a while after an absence of 6 years, most of
    which was spent happily playing ultimate 
    

    I think I have introduced myself in the previous version - I am mainly
    read-only, I consider myself a guest in this file. I am 45 years old,
    divorced (my daughter is nearly "sweet" sixteen and lives with her
    mother in Australia), and at the moment I have a complicated private
    life (means - I seem to fit o.k. into this file).
    
    I like DEC enough to work four days a week, doing a fun-job, which
    consists mainly out of telling fairy tales (SW-Licencing). 
    
    Regards,
    Heinrich
    PS- If you come to Zurich, I can help with advise 

    
    I introduced myself in an earlier incarnation of this file, but much
    has changed since then. Recently I have felt able to read this
    conference (and other human relationship conferences) again, so perhaps
    I should re-introduce myself.
    
    My name is Ian Frederic Philpott, I am a [full] colonel in the British
    Army reserve, I have a doctorate in mathematical physics (ballistics) -
    so you could perhaps call me "colonel doctor", but please don't :-)
    
    I now work as a a "windowing systems consultant" in the Southern
    Technology Resource Unit in England.
    
    My wife, Usa Ann (Usa means "dawn") is Thai - the nickname that appears
    in my personal name above means "black lion" in Thai - it is my in-laws
    nickname for me, though the origins are a bit hard to explain (they
    date back to the early part of my military career).
    
    My wife and I met in America - we were both living in New Hampshire at
    the time, and after a whirlwind courtship we married in Merrimack, NH,
    much to the annoyance of my parents. My contract ended and we came to
    live in Britain, a land that is totally alien to my wife, and
    increasingly so to me - it is amazing how you perceive prejudice for
    the first time when you place yourself outside of the mainstream of
    local society. We still hope to move back to America, but 'que sera
    sera' ... perhaps we will move to the US, perhaps Australia, perhaps
    Thailand. This might be hastened if I get "rightsized" out of the local
    operation here.
    
    /. Ian .\

    Herb Nichols 52 Married. 20 yr old daughter 17 yr old daughter

    Joseph Schlam
    software performance analyst working for transaction processing
      in Littleton, MA
    
    36 years old
    married to an ex-DECie, Stacey, a complex woman who I can't seem
                to find words to describe in a nutshell ...
    2 children, Alexandra the artist and soccer player who is 7 and
                Mark the 'ballet-man' and baseball player who is 4
    
    I have been an on again/off again mostly read only noter. 
    I find the honesty and inciteful(sp?) observations expressed here
    drawing me back more regularly as I read more. So, rather than continue
    to feel like a voyeur, I am signing in, and look forward to
    participating in =wn3=.

    Hi,
    
    I'm Gene Teglovic.  I've been with DEC for over 2 years.  I work
    in the Rocky Mountain District Software Services Organization, and
    I supervise a group of ten software specialists who do test 
    engineering for a US Air Force solar forecasting integrated system.
    
    I'm married and have three daughters (7, 5, 3).  I'm also very 
    active in MENNOTES and HUMAN_RELATIONS, and wanted to be invloved
    in this one too.
    
    Happy noting!
    
    Gene

    Hello,
    
    I'm Joseph Choi calling from Hong Kong.  I'd joined DEC since May'83. 
    Travelling to PRC was frequent at that time.   I'd transferred from DEC
    PRC Ltd. to DEC Asia Region Headquarter since February this year.
    
    My blood is Chinese, but I'm a Hong Kong Born, bearing a useless
    British passport.
    
    I'd a 2 years 7 months old son and is going to have one more (my wife
    prefer a girl) at late January of 1991.
    
    Happy noting...
    
    Joe...
    
    

(Reposted from WOMANNOTES-V2, with updates)

(I was in the transition process during the inception of -V3 and so have come
in late -- GO, V3, Long (and UNINTERRUPTEDLY!!!) May You Wave!!)

I've been at DEC since May '89.  Notes in general, and =wn= in particular, have
been VERY helpful in my acculturation process, as well as fascinating, 
sometimes amusing/infuriating, and always enlightening.  Thanks, all (most of
you that is :-), for sharing!!

I live in Natick Mass. with my dear wife of 26+ years.

Here's a short technical-weighted bio I did for another notesfile:

   Dan Kalikow, Northeast Regional Personal Computer Integration    
   Resource Center, OFO-Burlington MA

*  Job:  Corporate Integration Consultant, emphasis on Macintosh/DEC    
   connectivity.

*  Time With DEC: 1.5 years; spent ~>1 year in the LJO2 Engineering     
   group which created the PATHWORKS for Macintosh(tm) product set 
   with Apple Computer.  Now happily spreading the word about Mac 
   integration to the Digital Field and to our customers.

*  Former lives:  Prime 8 yrs., DG .5 yrs., BB&N-Cambridge 11 yrs,     
   Asst. Prof., Experimental Psychology, U. of NC 2 yrs., Brown grad    
   student, Harvard undergraduate, callow youth.

*  Sound Bite:  "IMHO, DEC's Desktop Integration products -- an    
   implementation of NAS -- represent near state of the art in 
   client-server computing.  Not just file and/or print service from 
   Mac, DOS, or OS/2 clients; that's necessary for openers, but 
   doesn't utilize enough smarts on the server side.  Similarly for 
   X-flavored C/S computing -- it doesn't give enough of a role to 
   *its* "server" side.  By "near state of the art," I refer 
   especially to the DAL (formerly CL/1) phase of the Mac/DEC alliance 
   product, or to SQL Services for Mac/DOS/etc.; and when folks start 
   writing real task-to-task distributed apps using our DECnet or 
   AppleTalk APIs, our platforms will REALLY begin to take off!"

*  Scotch:  No :-)

   We're DEC...  Client/Server computing "R" us... 

(-: **BRAG ON** :-) -- with apologies in advance for the length, NEXT REPLY
recommended for the uninterested...  Much of what follows was lifted from that
blurb you (may) have to write for your 25th college reunion.  As we begin our
story, Dan, (-: "47 years young," :-) is sitting at his Mac II...

Debby and I met on my 19th birthday (at a Brandeis mixer! :-) and have been
together since.  She later earned a Master's in Clinical Psych from URI.  For
the past 18 years, she's run a very successful custom-decorated cake business
that gives rein to the artistic flair she didn't know she had until she first
wielded a decorating tube.  By now, she's modeled virtually every known solid
object, and not a few abstractions, in cake!  She also works part-time in
high-tech marketing research.

Debby & I are almost(?) through raising two wonderful kids, 22 and 19. Jodie,
our older, graduated Harvard in linguistics with high honors last June; got
"the ONLY non-academic linguistics job in the WORLD!" and is now working at
Oracle in Silicon Valley.  Mandy is a Sophomore Russian/Slavic Studies major at
Harvard.  As the joke sez, "By sending two kids to college, we got poorer by
degrees!"  But there's NOTHING we'd rather spend it on than our kids'
educations.

Our two daughters have been our chief joys.  These are two witty and delightful
people it's been our pleasure and privilege to bring up and to know.  Not
surprisingly, I've found that to raise daughters has strengthened my feminism.

Debby & I  had a very rocky time last winter -- she had two sinus operations
for a tumor that really had us scared, plus a splitting, 9-week nonstop,
recuperation headache.  But thanks to the fine Boston-area medical community,
she's made a full recovery!  Whooppee!  

Where I'm coming from:  I'm a Mass. native, liberal Democrat (who nevertheless
loathes Silber and voted for Weld), pro-choice, "unintentionally pc" :-):-). 
Both my undergraduate and graduate degrees were in Experimental Psychology, and
after my doctorate I actually professed (at U. of NC) for a couple of years in
that field before deciding I wanted to do full-time research (and to get a
better excuse to play with computers full-time!).

I spent the '70s and then some at Bolt Beranek & Newman, the Cambridge
think-tank, doing a whole range of applied engineering consulting work, from
psychophysics and psycholinguistics to office automation (as it was beginning
to be called in those days) and general human factors.  It really felt like a
succession of post-doctoral fellowships...  One interesting line of work
developed out of our digital signal processing work -- I coordinated all, and
led some, of BBN's lab work on the (in)famous "eighteen and a half minute gap"
tape that played a central role in the Watergate scandal of '72-'74.  I wrote a
successful clinical diagnostic test still used in audiometry.  I also got into
TENEX and TOPS-20, PDP-8's and -11's, electronic mail, text-editors and
-formatters, laser printers and the rest.

One of my major satisfactions then, as now, was putting new productivity tools
in users' hands.  In that connection, I also recall with pride the several
women secretaries who were early adopters of those tools, whom I "mentored"
through the transition to the development staff.

After a short and disastrous stint at DG (I made the strategic error of joining
an innovative OA group that was incompatible with the rest of the product line,
and left before the photon torpedoes hit), I spent the rest of the '80s at
Prime until the layoff ax fell.

Aside from working on EMACS, a declarative text-formatting language, and
PostScript laser printers, my chief claim to fame at Prime was as the senior
resident "Mac freak."  In the late '80s, I passionately advocated and *nearly*
pulled off :-(  the kind of strategic alliance between Prime and Apple that DEC
enjoys today (well OK, in retrospect, turn that :-( into a :-) 'cause Digital
Has It Now).

I remain a "Mac freak" to this day.  I *better,* I've bought three -- our
upgrade strategy is to buy one, send it off to college with a kid, and buy the
next at undergraduate discount rates.  Yikes, no more kids...

Here at DEC, I've got the best of both worlds -- a Mac II on my desk and plenty
of VAXen to tap into; bright, motivated colleagues; and lots of growth
potential in the market segment I'm pointed at.

Some favorite things:  Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Tom Clancy, James Clavell,
Stephen King, Desperado, time-lapse photography, international food (Indian and
French are faves), and romantic (25th-anniversary, in our case) trips to
France.  I particularly recommend hot-air ballooning over the Loire, bed &
breakfasting in actual Michelin-listed ch�teaux, and that evening cruise down
the Seine where you dress up and they feed you a 5-star meal as Paris glides by
at sunset...  Ahh...  And don't forget to buy a rose for your SO...

(BTW, FWIW, I like it when Noters mention their geographical locations -- the
EasyNet is so time/place transparent, I sometimes wonder whence on the planet
the musings appear.  But then again I wanted to be a cartographer when I was a
kid; perhaps this curiosity is out-of-place.)

Back to the college reunion blurb...  There's much that one leaves out in a
summary of this sort -- goals not met, mistakes made, paths not traveled.  As
ever, the rules change as you go along, and only the most enduring yardsticks
are reliable.  My wife and I are together, healthy, and happy; our children are
bright, beautiful and full of promise; we tend our figurative garden.  The
seasons change.  Love endures.

Thanks for listening, see you online...  Dan

    at DEC 11 years
    manufacturing engineer in BTO (ha!)
    45
    I label myself feminist
    not particularly religious
    somewhat of a misanthrope and a loner
    have been with the same woman for 21 rocky years
    she and I are both children of alcoholics
    
    not sure what I'm looking for, here or anywhere...
    
    J

Here's my intro from =wn= V1 almost four years (yipes!) ago.  Nothing
much has changed...

JP

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  I've been reading and enjoying this file for months now.  Now that I've
  begun shooting off my mouth, I guess the time has come to introduce
  myself. 

  Since coming to work for Digital almost 8 years ago, I've had the
  opportunity to work with women in peer relationships and on both ends of
  the boss/subordinate relationship.  It's been great fun.

  My SO's name is Alison and we've been together for 13 years now (married
  for 8+ of them).  There have been good times and bad but the amazing thing
  is that there appears to be a general upward trend toward good times.
  Knowing her has given me reason enough to like women in general.

  While I think prejudice is wrong (at least the coarse granularity
  prejudice like male/female and black/white) I don't think that harping
  on the wrongness of prejudice is likely to improve today's sad
  situation. Instead, I think that change is more likely to be achieved by
  pointing out the cost of prejudice.  I don't think that we can afford to
  handicap (or waste completely) approximately half of our brains and
  talent.  We can't afford it in our company nor in our country nor in our
  world.  

  I intend to go back to being a quiet voyeur because I am more likely to
  learn things if I stay silent.  Furthermore, the last thing this file
  needs is yet another opinionated male (and that describes me pretty darn
  well).  I would like to thank the participants of this file for providing
  more in the way of wisdom, compassion, and forbearance than I have seen
  in a long time.

  JP

    I'm Bob Elwell.
    
    I'm in TMP, based in WMO, but temping with DECflex in Tewksbury.
    I can't seem to catch up with the stuff in here, but I get in and read
    once in a while, and might write if it looks like it might be
    pertinent.
    
    ....Bob

    Hi, I'm Mike Johnston. I've been with DEC for one year as a Business
    Manager in Vendor Equipment Services. I work in Dallas, am 38, and have
    a divorce in progress (after 19 years).
    
    I'm mostly read-only, but may comment from time to time.
    

    Hi all,
    
    I'm Mickwid Lam from Hong Kong. I just discover this topic. Sometimes
    before I have created a new topic on sexial equity, have you read
    that?
    
    I'm a boy with 21. Working in Digital as a cooperative student in
    ISEDA/HK (Internation Software Engineering Development
    Architecture/Hong Kong.) My during in this company will last to
    30-June-1991.
    
    I hope in my days in Digital I can learn more, both from my job
    and from my dear colleagues like you.
    
    Hong Kong is a nice place. If anyone of you would come to Hong Kong,
    I hope I can give you help.
    
    
    Mickwid.
    
    
    

    
    Hello!
    
    Kevin Johnson, newly transplanted to Colorado Springs from California,
    I've been a DECie for 11 yrs. Pat (my SO) and I love it here- but the
    temperature and altitude take a little getting used too.
    
    I've heard much about this conference for a long while now, but
    have only recently begun reading it. I enjoy the dialogue between the
    sexes such as I've seen here, and the insight gained from glimpses
    of women's perspective on so many topics. I hope to occasionally
    contribute (positively and non-obtrusively, of course! :=) from
    time to time, and am sure to learn a lot, in any event.
    
    kj
    

    Hi!
    
    Since my attention was drawn to this Conference today, and i opened it
    up and read it for the first time, I felt duty bound to introduce
    myself, although I must admit that I already know quite a few who've
    been noting here already. I'm Don Casey and I work in Commonwealth Govt
    Sales at Digital's downtown Melbourne Office, ie., Melbourne,
    Australia, not Melbourne, Florida. I'll be happy to provide any other
    information about myself should anyone be interested, but in the
    meantime, it's awfully nice to make your acquaintance.
    
    Don
    *8-)
    

    Just here for about six months.
    
    Interesting conference with lots of nice people.  Wish I could stay
    longer.
    
    Cheers,
    -jt

    
    
    Hi!  I've recently been pointed to this conference and as you 
    "NEXT UNSEEN" hitters can tell, I've had a few replies already.
    
    I am a co-op, which is a technical college's name for an intern.  I
    test something confidential here at DEC in East-central
    Mass-uh-choo-sits.
    
    I like to reply to things that really get my goat when I see them.
    
    Nick
    

I've been with DEC for just over 9 years as a software specialist in New Jersey,
then a maintainability (ugh! jargon alert!) engineer in Littleton, Mass., and
since October, a software engineer.  I'm 33, married to another software
engineer (who prefers small companies), and I've been a quiet feminist of sorts
for at least half my life.

I've been an off-and-on reader of this conference since its first year. I can't
keep up with the flood of activity, but I drop in occasionally. I've left
several times when things have seemed too angry or when my noting time became
too limited, but my curiosity's always gotten me back.
    
I really value the thoughtful, caring tone of this conference, and I want to
see it continue -- and thrive.    
    

    
    I work in Palo Alto, CA. and live up the canyon; almost too far
    for the light to penetrate..
    

    Hello, guess I'm a "read only" participant, but then again...
    
    I'm from "up north"....(on the other side...)
    
    Yes, ...Norway.
    
    My name is Per Spangebu (..not Pear ;^))
    15 years in DEC, ...still in sales.

    Hi!
    
    My name is David Savage, based (and born) in the UK.
    
    I'm a 33 year old, single guy with 'normal' (?!?) tendencies, although the
    sense of humour gets a bit out of hand sometimes, who has been
    fortunate to travel and work quite extensively in the USA and Europe, 
    making many friends in the process.
    
    I care enough to want to know how, and what, various people think and
    that is my reason for reading.
    
    The personal side, which is fractionally more interesting than the work
    aspect, centres around a fairly active (skiing, sailing, hill climbing,
    theatre, films, music) hub interspersed with healthy couch potato
    balancing spells (who wants to go out on a winter's night when the log
    fire is built up and friends have turned up??).
    
    The *professional* side is that of a Business Analyst specialising in
    CASE tools and structured methods.... I told you it was boring.
    
    Anyway, thanks for a whole gamut of emotions whether it be amusement,
    concern, horror or more stomach turning. Congratulations and best
    wishes in your resolves.
    
    
    Dave    

        Since I already entered some notes, perhaps this serves to 
    formalize my being in here.
        I have been noting around various files for four years now,
    but just last week I entered this file for the first time.
    Curiosity, I suppose.  
        I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains and work in Santa Clara,
    California.
        In regards to women, I like them.  They also present me with
    some of my greatest challenges.  ;-)
        I work hard at understanding who I am, and part of that process
    means understanding who others are...and when it has to do with
    my prefered sexual appetites, more understanding of a women's reality
    becomes imperative.  Perhaps that is why I am here at this time in
    this file.
        I tend to be honest and express myself freely.  Some of you are
    aware of that already.  :-)  Anyway, since this file is clearly
    intended to be a safe refuge for women somehow, I will endeavor
    to respect that space and "hold myself back" perhaps more than
    I might otherwise.
        If there are any personals about me that are important to you,
    then you'll discover them.
    
    
    Frederick
    

    Hmm -- I thought I had introduced myself here -- must have been the
    previous incarnation of this conference.
    
    Andrew Kenah -- work is VMS Marketing, notes nowadays is read-mostly.
    
    					andrew

	Since I have already made one or two contributions to this 
	file, I guess I had better introduce myself.  
	                 
	My  name  is  Liam Boyle.   I  am VAX 9000  instructor for 
	manufacturing in Galway, Ireland.
	    
	A heterosexual, I have been married for sixteen years.  My 
	wife  Anne and I have three  children, Andrew, Heather and 
	M�adhbh. 
	    
	My political orientation is socialist.   My major interest 
	is  philosophy,  and I'm sorry to  see so  little activity 
	lately in ATSE::PHILOSOPHY.   Recently I have found myself 
	dropping  into  WOMANNOTES  fairly often,  and generally I 
	find the discussion here lively and interesting.  

Hi.  I've been reading and enjoying Womannotes immensely for some
time, so I guess it's impolite not to introduce myself and list some
irrelevant stats.

	Tech writer in LKG
	DOB: 17-NOV-1948
	5'8", 155 lbs.
	Brown hair, brown eyes (ho hum)
	Married, one son, Adam, 18
	Woodstock relic
	Slightly crazed
	Borderline depressive
	Insomniac
	No flies
	No religion
        No criminal record
	Playful

Pleased to meet you ...

A random sampling of favorites in no particular order:

    	Quote:			"It's not that I don't like people,
				I just feel a lot better when
				they're not around." From Barfly.

	Revelation or "Click":  Men are defective (yup)
	Food: 			Pasta (all kinds)
	Male rock star: 	Zimmy (what did you expect)
	Female rock stars:  	Chrissie Hynde
	Dead author:	 	Henry Miller
	Dead poet:		Emily Dickinson (would she have liked Henry?)
	Form of exercise: 	Cycling 
	Time of day: 		Morning (anything after midnight)
	Day of the week: 	Thursday
	Month of the year: 	March 
	Year:			1973 (so long ago)
	Foreign country: 	Greece 
	State: 			Vermont
	Beverage:	 	Bud Dry
	Color: 			Blue
	TV Show:		Doogey Howser, MD (!)
	Ice cream:	  	Chocolate Chocolate Chocolate
	Junkfood:		Devil dogs and, possibly, Yodels
	Vegetable:		Broccoli (it's political)
	Pie:  			Blueberry 
	Cheese:			Provolone 
	Cheap joint:	 	Santarpio's
	Expensive joint:	Turner Fisheries
	Insect:			Bee
	Wild animal:		Bear
	House pet:		Cat 
	Attire: 		Jeans (Levis)
	Sport:			Baseball
	Thing to hate:		Bigotry
	Natural wonder:		Ocean 
	Movie:			La Strada
	Notesfile: 		Womannotes 
	Noter:			Lorna St. Hilaire
	Etc.

And I don't like to drink alone, but I will if I have to.  
Questions welcome.

    Here is the same intro I used in the MENNOTES conference.
    
    
        Victor (Vick) Lawrence Bennison:  Victor   = conqueror
                                          Lawrence = conqueror
        Do you think my parents had something in mind for me?  :^)
    
        Grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma.  Married twice.  Second marriage in it's
        20th year.  Two daughters (11 and 14).  44 years old.  Ph.D., Computer
        Science, University of Chicago, 1976.  Taught 2 years at SUNY 
    	Binghamton.  Worked for Bell Labs in Naperville, IL, for 2 years.  
    	Here at DEC for 10 years.
    
        Pursuits:  Genealogy (world's leading authority on the Loop family),
                   ham radio (call NO1I), photography, poetry, painting,
                   Shakespeare, singing (Souhegan Valley Chorus), stained glass,
                   reading, travel.
        Sports:    Tennis (I have a wicked serve, but go to my backhand and
                   you will win.)
    
        All that, and yet I suffer from a lousy self-image. :^)  I am a gentle
        non-agressive (except in notesfiles :^) person.
    

I've been read-only in =wn= for a while, but now that I've entered a reply
I figure I should introduce myself...

My name is Jim Paradis, and I work in the Alpha Migration Tools group at
LTN (one of DEC's ghost-towns; the building is about half empty...)  My
technical expertise is in UNIX internals (I spent a year in the ULTRIX group
at ZKO before coming here), but the work I'm doing now is causing me to
branch out into other areas (something I've wanted to do for a while anyway).
I'm 29 years old, married to a WONDERFUL woman, no kids (and no plans to have
any), 5 cats.  In addition to my techie pursuits, I like cooking (I do most
of the cooking at our house), carpentry (we're renovating a 100-year-old
house), music (I sing and play french horn [no, NOT at the same time!]),
science fiction, and lots of other things.

I'm here because I've always had an interest in gender related issues...
ever since I was first told as a child that I "threw like a girl", 
"walked like a girl", etc.  Now that I look back on it, I notice that
a LOT of the early social patterns I developed are often described as
"feminine".  It wasn't until later as a teenager that I started absorbing
some of the so-called "male" patterns.  I find that some characteristics
of each side are quite useful to me (e.g. the female desire to build
consensus, and the male assertiveness), while others I sometimes find
detrimental (e.g. the female's tendency to passivity, and the male's
competitiveness).  I see my life as a continual striving to find the
best of both sides; male AND female.  You might say that I stumbled on
Taoism without knowing what it was 8-)

As I said, I've been read-only up until now, but more and more I'm feeling
the need to respond to some of what I read with observations of my own.
So you'll be seeing more of me 8-)

Take care, everyone!

--jim paradis

John Hicks-Courant

Married father of two girls

Freshwater Environmental Activist

Proposal Writer

Home is northeastern Massachusetts

    Hey ho folks!
    
    Yup, I'm back from my final year in the sticks. Results:  one BA Magna
    Cum Laude from Dartmouth College in English Literature and Creative
    writing, one Phi Beta kappa key and $10,000 of debt. (2 outta 3 isn't
    bad!)
    
    I'll be working at DEC until late August when I move to Baltimore to
    get my MA in Creative Writing at JHU.
    
    After that...who knows?
    
    Special interests: Women's Studies (I'm thinking of finding a way to
    combine that with my writing in a PhD program some day), Rape/Sexual
    Assault Awareness and Activism,  AIDS activism (going to work on the
    Names Project when I get to baltimore, Cooking and music of almost any
    kind.
    
    I'm looking forward to reading/particiating in =wn= community again.
    
    Your friendly Dataentry clerk,
    
    Daniel

    Uh, sorry, I thought I had introduced myself formally, but I wuz wrong.
    
    After the Grand Potluck Party Friday night, it would seem a bit late to
    introduce myself to many of you, but here goes.
    
    I have 2 daughters (16 & 18) who will both be living with me as of next
    week.
    
    I am still in my second marriage, though that may be subject to change
    most nearly any day  now.
    
    My taste in activities and food is rather eclectic.  
    
    I travel a lot for DEC and really enjoy my job as DECathena Sales
    Support.
    
    It really felt nice to be accepted by such an interesting and diverse
    group of people.
    
    Hugs
    jim

    Hello, All!
    
    I've been a long time reader of =wn= and it's about time I introduced
    myself.  
    
    Personal:
    	Name: Pete Stoddard
    	Age:  37
    	Height: 5'9"
    	Weight: Variable
    
    Family:
    	Wife: Jan (we've been married for 11 years)
    	Children: 2 boys - Mike (age 9) and James (age 6)
    
    Professional:
    	Title: Principal Engineer
    	Group: PCSG/SQE/CPG
    	Location: LJ02 in Littleton, MA, USA
    	Duration: I've been with DEC 3 1/2 years as an employee and 4 years
    		  before that as a contract consultant.
    
    Interests:
    	Music (traditional and modern folk, show music)
    	Martial Arts (I met my wife at the Kung Fu school where we both
    		currently teach)
    	Sailing (especially multihulls)
    	Reading (almost anything)
    	People (expanding my extended family and circle of friends)
    
    Thank you all for this notes file!
    
    Have a GREAT day!
    Pete
    	

    Vic Hamburger
    INDEC Customer Services Unit Mgr
    IND (Marlboro area)

    I am just starting to browse _WN_ but thought I would at least let all 
of you know I am here......I enjoy Mennotes and a variety of other 
conferences (OK, I'm a note-aholic!) and decided this was one worth 
following.

    Age 46, married to the same wonderful lady for 24 years, two children, 
young man age 20, delightful daughter age 15. Both will be another year 
older in a month to 3 months, so I feel like I'm aging fast! DECcie for 10+ 
years. 

    Interests include woodworking and carving (Hi Lynne, no I haven't 
started a carousel horse yet!) (see 2.131) photography, model railroading, 
and lots of other things. 

    Vic H

OH DA*N! He's done it so now I have to to avoid confusion.

Vic is the (according to him) younger-better-looking-Hamburger-Brother. :-}

I'm the original though :-} :-}

Amos Hamburger
Information Security Manager,  PCS&P sites

Activist to support the bill of rights for all
Pro-choice, pro-gun, pro-freedom. (the order may vary) :-}

Mostly read-only except when obvious errors appear in subjects important to 
me.

Amos

     Hello to all you FANTASTIC people!!
     
     This has got to be one of (No,make that THE BEST notesfile around!)
    
     I'm Doug Langdon,,IN-DEC field service
                   oops ,,,,,,customer service
                   ooops ,,,,,Digital service  (we change names every year)
    
      Located here in the sunny south ,been with DEC for 7 1/2 yrs now
    
     Married to a wonderful woman named Barbara for almost 19 yrs,,with 
    two fantastic girls,,12 and 8 yrs old.
    
    Doug (who hates the thought of our daughters developing southern
    accents)

	Hi.  My name is Dan D'Eramo.

	I'm 32 years old (33 next month), single, and live in
	Marlborough, MA (USA).

	I have been working at Digital since December of 1986.
	I am currently a software senior engineer at LMO2 (also
	in Marlborough), working on the Motif user interface to
	Decision Expert V2.

	I'm very glad that you also note here, because it is your
	presence here that makes WomanNotes such a special place
	to be.  Thank you.

	hugs,
	Dan

    You waited all this time to get .100. I am in awe of your
    patience!!

    Hi
    
    I am Dave Darrall.  I'm 23, single but living with my girlfriend in
    Reading UK.  
    
    I started at Digital in 89 and have justy restarted after finishing my
    college course.  I am now a engineer at DESISCo in London UK.
    
    I find Woman notes an insight in to many different areas, and the
    discussion leads to alot of thought.  
    
    Hope you carry on, I may even had a note here and there...
    
    see ya
    
    Dave D

    
    
    Helloo !
    
    I'm  Jerome Batterbee. I'm 23, single and living in a self-contained
    bedsit in Bracknell, Berks, England.
    
    I'm a contractor (so I should not have time to note !) and my 
    contract ends next month (anyone need a C programmer).
    
    I've only just started replying to notes but have been reading 
    for a few weeks. I've found wn very interesting. I think more
    men should read it - they might learn something ! 
    
    Jerome.

    Don't think I ever introduced myself yet, so here goes....
    
    Charles Mallo, working with IS end user services in Holland.
    I'm 35 and married (for 15 years already).
    
    Interests.... too many too mention 8-)

    
    	An American in Germany here. . . . .
    
    
    	My name's Rob Harrah, 35, single parent of an 8 year old daughter. 
    Write code, fix users' problems, translate documents, go to meetings.
    Also read NOTES a lot when the system isn't to slow.  I enjoy living
    near Frankfurt, but sometimes feel out of touch with things from "back
    in the real world".  Hopefully, this electronic medium is a touchstone
    to a land that I miss (sometimes. . . .)

    Rob,
    
    If you miss it that much, why not move back here? I mean this
    completely objectively, of course. There aren't enough 35-year-old
    unmarried men in America, so why not do something for your country?
    
    Eileen

    
    	Hi Eileen - 
    
    
    	   Why stay in Europe ?
    
    
    	1.  I really, really like working for DEC in Germany.  The overall
    benefits package (2 mos. per year off, a car, total health care
    coverage, et al . .) make it to be a good deal, even if the taxes are
    awful.  
    
    	2.  My daughter is getting a first rate education, as well as three
    languages.  
    
    	3.  The food is outstanding . .;-). . . .
    
    	4.  I've been in "read-only" mode about the states for the last 10
    years, apart from vacations.  I would be more than a little bit scared
    of being or feeling out-of-place.  Sometimes, the things I read (or see
    on CNN here) sadden or depress me.  I know that the whole country is
    not down the tubes, yet the sensationalistic aspects of modern
    journalism tend to leave me with a skewed outlook on life in America.
    
    	5.  Besides, the presently cheap dollar makes easy enough to fly
    back whenever those ol' homesick blues get too intense.
    
    
    
    						-rob in frankfurt

    Well, then, I'll just have to move to Europe. :-)
    Actually, I know some of the benefits of living in Europe,
    as I used to live there (Ireland). The educational benefits
    are especially good, but the two months off would be the
    deciding factor for me. I'm planning to go to the south of France 
    next year. If it's anything like what I've heard, I may never
    come back.
    
    Eileen 

    
    Yup, I've grown quite, quite accustomed to the two months off per year
    thing.  Actually, for employees of DEC Germany, it is more. . . . 2
    months off is the base, plus the work week is 37.5 hrs. per week,
    although we work 40, yielding 2.5 hrs. a week surplus.  We get to
    credit these hours towards the vacation time per year.  What this
    really means is that an employee gets a *lot* of time off.  Plus, the
    number of vacation days per year is indexed to your age, with more days
    off as you get older.  
    
    	More reasons to like working over here (but I still miss good BBQ!) 
    
    
    	
    						-rob in frankfurt

   Hi Everyone!!

     I'm Paul DiTommaso.  29 (and holding) ... Software Engineer, working in
   Marketing at the moment.  This October is my 5th year at DEC (YEA! 3 weeks
   vacation!!!!)  I live in Marlboro. 

     Its been four years since I've read and written to womannotes ... I figure
   its about time I write again!  I know some of you already, but for those of
   you who I don't know, here is some more info.

   Interests: 

     I love to cook, ... for myself and others. I cook all sorts of styles,
   but prefer italian, chinese and cajun.  I love wine also, and try new
   wines every chance I get.  I prefer red wines.

     I'm pretty active.  I produce theatre shows, run sound for theatre and
   other events in the city.  I DJ on my spare time.  I love to ski and 
   play volleyball.  I try to keep fit and work out as much as possible.
   (which isn't enough,  there just aren't enough hours in a day).  I tend
   to be a night time person, staying up late and getting up late. I love
   to socialize, which is why I get involved in so many things.

     Well, I've rambled long enough, hopefully not too long!  
   
   -paul

Hi,

I'm Scott Forten and I work here in LKG Littleton as a graphics coordinator for
T&N Publications. I am usually an on again/off again reader of womannotes
and mennotes but since I placed a reply here, I feel it polite to introduce
myself.

I have worked for DEC for almost five years (four in Security at BUO training
Center) and have enjoyed being here. I've met alot of friendly people and
have met many wonderful friends through various note conferences. I hope to
meet many here as well.

I come from a large family (five sisters and a brother) and currently am living
in Lexington with two of my sisters, my nephew, and father. One of my sisters
works for Digital too. 

What I like to do on my spare time?

Swim - I've been swimming since I was a baby and just love to swim underwater
       as opposed to swimming above water. On summer nights, I'd often go
       swimming in my pool at 3am just to relax and think.

Read - I love books, especially horror books. I have most of Stephen King's
       novels, all of Dean R Koontz, and dozens of other authors. At one point
       I had over three hundred books. On a quite week, I can read three
       good sized books.

Cook - I love to cook for my family and someday want to have my own gourmet
       kitchen with everything in it.

Eat - Eating out with good friends is a very enjoyable event. There's nothing
like good friends, food, and conversation. I've enjoyed several different forms
of cuisines like this; Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Italian, Vietnamese, Ethiopian,
Mexican, etc. Fortunately, I don't look like I enjoy eating. ;^)

Dancing - I love to dance. I dance at work (I've been caught dancing in my
          office a few times) at home and I go to Boston 4 times a week. Mostly
          to BUDDIES and then CITI on Sundays.

Well, that's about it (ABOUT IT?!!? JEESH! THAT'S ENOUGH  ;^)   )
Hope to be a regular participant in this conference.


Scott