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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

1690.0. "Training videos" by RDGENG::BRYANT () Tue Jul 02 1996 09:19

    
    
    I have been learing to fly (under instruction) for what seem an 
    excessive time. One thing that I note is that the instructors at our
    club are not very good at pre and post flight briefings.  
    
    I was wondering if it would be useful to look at any of
    the training videos such as "one week to solo" of the first 
    "wring it out" video to get different perspective on how to fly
    the basics.
    
    Has anyone seen these? Are they useful?
    
    Stewart
    
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1690.1HiSNAX::SMITHI FEEL THE NEEDTue Jul 02 1996 13:2711
    Any of the video's dealing with "learning" to fly should be helpful.
    If you've been training for awhile, you should be able to pick up on
    the points their trying to relay in the video and compare them to what
    YOU are actually doing. If the tape says to do "this" and your doing
    "that", you know you have to make a change.
    
    Question. How long have you been training, and how often do you train.
    It's difficult to quantify "excessive" without knowing these details.
    
    
    Steve
1690.2One of my favorites :)AD::BARBERTue Jul 02 1996 13:355
    And for inspiration check out Pink Floyd's video, "Learning to Fly".
    
    
    Just an earthbound misfit, I.
    
1690.318 mthsRDGENG::BRYANTWed Jul 03 1996 05:5116
    I have been learning for about 18 mths, although for the first 6 mths
    there were a number of difficulties with the engine, and I was sharing
    one trainer with my son. I get to the field most Sundays, and typically
    get three flights, but not always the same instructor each week.
    
    I am quite confident in the upper air, although the circuits and figure
    eights are not as tidy as they should be. I do seem to have difficulty
    setting up the approach.
    
    I have agreed with our club that my son (who is 14) is sufficiently
    competent to take me up to practise what I learn in the instructed
    sessions, so I should get a lot more flying time from now on.
    
    Stewart
    
    
1690.4some inputSNAX::SMITHI FEEL THE NEEDThu Jul 04 1996 08:3850
    Hi Stewart,
    
    	It sounds like your not really getting "instruction". Rather,
    someone takes the plane up for you, let's you fly around awhile, and
    then lands for you. Everyone learns at their own pace, but I have to
    believe that if you were getting "real" instruction, you would have
    soloed by now. Certainly, you should be taking off by yourself at this
    point.
    
    An instructor should be taking you up and MAKING you do different
    things until you can do them competently. You mention circuits and
    figure eights. Your circuits should be square and done both to the left
    and to the right. You should be able to fly upwind in line with the
    runway, make a 90 degree left turn, level out, fly out for a ways, make
    another 90 degree left turn, level out (now putting you going down
    wind), continue flying down wind to the point where you would normally
    start making your approach to the runway, make another 90 degree left
    turn, level out, and then make a final 90 degree left turn putting you
    back on the upwind leg directly in line with the runway and back where
    you started. All this should be done with no loss/gain in altitude. You
    should be able to do this equally well both to the left and to the
    right.
    
    Figure eights are the same concept. Picture the number eight laying on
    it's side. The point where the two lines cross in the middle of the
    eight should be directly in front of you. When you fly the figure
    eight, the plane should follow those lines and cross directly in front
    of you each time. If it doesn't, your not making the sides (or loops)
    of the eight equal. There should also be no loss or gain in altitude.
    
    These maneuvers are designed to teach YOU to fly the PLANE rather than
    the plane flying you. YOU put the plane where YOU want it. If you can't
    do that, your not in control. It takes practice, especially when you
    consider that mother nature may have other ideas on where the planes
    going. But that's the whole point. You don't say oh well, I guess if
    the wind is going to push the plane over that way, that's where it's
    going. To the contrary, you MAKE the plane go where YOU want it to
    DESPITE the wind.
    
    The reason you have to learn and master all this up in the air is so
    you can take off and land. If you can't make that plane do what you
    want it too up high, how do you think your going to fair when your low
    and slow trying to land???????????? This is the point where there's no
    margin for error and if your not in control, your probably going to
    crash rather than land.
    
    The whole point though is that you need to have an "instructor" that
    will stand with you and tell you exactly what to do, what your doing
    wrong, and how to correct it. If their just letting you get "stick
    time", their not doing you any favors.
1690.5Don't give upAPACHE::BRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @17.5K music to my earsThu Jul 04 1996 12:5619
    To add to this note and to say don't give up.
    
    I'm proud to announce I got my wings on July 1st. It took a full year
    with November to May off because of the cold. I could basically fly by
    myself last September but it took the next few months to prove that I
    had the full control needed to earn my wings.
    
    The next day of flying I was so confident that I could greace my
    landings every time and felt very controlled at all times. I suppose like
    a teenager with his drivers licence. I know I'll be brought down to
    earth soon but I feel real good about my flying now as apposed to very 
    frustated knowing I could fly but nobody would give me the recognition
    to say I was good enough . They were right but I was still thinking 
    I could fly by myself.
    
    Now it's more practice and on to my next plane.
    
    Fred