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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

1568.0. "Laser Engines" by BAHTAT::EATON_N (Stupid English Ker-nigg-it) Mon Oct 25 1993 10:18

     
        I haven't found a note covering the "Laser" four-stroke engines
        made in the UK by Neil Tidey, so I thought I'd start one.
     
        My wife has just ordered a .70 for me as a present! (maybe I should
        start a note on my wife!).
     
        I've chosen the Laser because:
    
    1)	It's a four-stroke.
    2)	It'll run happily on no-nitro fuel (no more corrosion worries!)
    3)	It's hand made, and of very high quality.
    4) 	It's British! (I'm allowed a little nationalism? 8^)
    5) 	Got a problem with a Laser? Ring the *guy who made it*, and talk
    	to him in his workshop. 
    6)	Believe it or not, it's actually cheaper than an OS .70 Surpass.
    
    	I really like the idea of being able to talk straight to the
    	manufacturer. I wasn't too sure how well a .70 would fit in
    	my new model (A Flair Puppeteer) so I rang Mr Tidey, and he
    	told me that he knew of several guys using them in this model
    	and I should mount it inverted, and use a 6 to 9 oz tank, and....
    
    	I also know two or three guys at my club who swear
    	by these engines, and wouldn't use anything else. The larger
    	engines seem to be widely used in the scale world in the UK.
    
    	Anyway, I'll post more news when I receive the engine (2 - 3
    	weeks). In the meantime, anybody else have experience of Lasers?
    
    Cheers
    
    Nigel
    
    
    	
    
     
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1568.1I like them.CSTEAM::HENDERSONCompetition is Fun: Dtn 297-6180, MRO4Mon Oct 25 1993 10:5413
    The no nitro is defitely a bonus. Not for $ or Pound strerling reasons,
    but for rust reasons.
    
    I have seen several Lasers run and they are very robust and handle very
    nicely indeed.
    
    The two used on the Vickers Vimmy bomber at the scale Top Gun in
    Florida this year ran just beautifully once they fixed the tank!. I    
    chatted to David Boddington who just loved them.
    
    Regards,
    
    EVL-1.
1568.2prices rarely fall !GALVIA::ECULLENIt will never fly, Wright !Tue Oct 26 1993 11:189
    >>    My wife has just ordered a .70 for me as a present! (maybe I should
    >>    start a note on my wife!).
    
    If my other half did this I would think she was unwell 8-).
    
    Amen - for no nitro for cost reasons. 
    
    Eric.
    
1568.3Valve QuestionANGLIN::BEATTYWed Oct 27 1993 12:476
    I've never seen one.  Are the valves activated by cam, pushrods and
    rockers or is a belt and rotary valves used.  Are the valve
    rockers/mechanisms covered?
    
    Will
    
1568.4I've heard nothing but praise for them...KERNEL::ANTHONYSat Oct 30 1993 13:0014
    	Nigel,
    
    	several members of my club, have nothing else but laser
    	engines.  In fact they must be the most popular engine
    	seen at the flying site.  One member has eleven of them
    	from the original 62, to the 150 twin. (he seems to order
    	a new one every month!)   I don't know if you are aware,
    	but Neil Tidey has just upgraded the entire range.  The 
    	original 62 is now the new 70, the old 70 becomes the new 80 etc.
    	Seems like he's managed remove some metal, increase the capacity
    	(saving weight in the process!) and power output.
    
    	cheers
    	Brian
1568.5Great stuff!BAHTAT::EATON_NSmile when you say that!Mon Nov 01 1993 08:0120
    
    re .3
    
    The valves are operated by pushrods and rockers, which are enclosed.
    The pushrods are at the rear of the engine too, which gives good crash
    protection (important for me! 8^).
    
    Re .4, yes I'd heard about the new sizes. I have drawings of the .62,
    which is still available incidentally, I used these to check that the
    engine would fit in my airframe. The .70 is the same external
    dimensions, so I went for it on the basis that "there ain't no
    substitute for cubic inches".
    
    Keep saying nice things about them folks, it makes me feel even better
    about my decision!
    
    Cheers
    
    Nigel
    
1568.6It's here!BAHTAT::EATON_NSmile when you say that!Mon Nov 15 1993 07:0923
    
    The Laser arrived in this morning's post. I am *very* pleased with it
    so far. The finish is lovely, beautiful crisp machining. The carb
    supplied is, I believe, a Super Tigre item. It feeds directly into the
    head, from the rear. Again this is good for crash-worthiness, and they
    say it gives easier adjustments. The carb and exhaust can both be
    rotated to give the best fit within a cowl. 
    
    Engine specs are:
    
    	Bore		:	1.09 in
    	Stroke		:	 .74 in
    	Weight		:	20 oz
    	Prop Size	:	12x7 - 13x8
    	
    I am now looking forward to getting a prop on, putting it in a test
    stand and firing it up! Regrettably work intrudes once again, and this
    is going to have to wait until later in the week 8^(.
    
    I'll post more when I know it, but so far I'm a happy boy.
    
    Nigel
    
1568.7And it works!BAHTAT::EATON_NSmile when you say that!Mon Nov 22 1993 08:5719
    
    Well, on Saturday I finally got round to finishing the test stand and
    installing the Laser.
    
    I oiled the valvegear and bottom end (as per instructions) turned it
    over three times to prime, hooked up the glow plug and flicked it over
    by hand. It started third flick! 8^) 8^) 8^)
    
    Happy, happy, happy. I let it run a tank full through at tickover
    (which is amazingly slow for a new engine, running straight fuel a bit
    on the rich side), with occasional bursts up to full throttle. 
    
    It runs beautifully, and sounds *gorgeous*.
    
    All that remains now is to shoehorn it into my Puppeteer, and see how
    it behaves in the air. So far, so good.
    
    Nigel (A happy punter).
     
1568.8Unsolicited testimonial!BAHTAT::EATON_NPersonal Name Removed to Save CostsFri Jan 28 1994 09:4723
    
    Very belatedly (been a busy boy), here's a quick update on the Laser. I
    flew it in my Puppeteer, and I'm still mightily impressed. It starts
    very easily, doesn't seem in the least upset by a less than perfect
    installation in terms of tank position. It ticks over (OK, *idles*! 8^)
    very slowly, even though still new and tight. It seems to make *plenty*
    of power, although I daren't open it up fully in the Pup, it'd probably
    pull the wings off! Throttling is reliable, and it doesn't seem in the
    least sensitive to the needle valve setting. I'm letting it run on the
    rich side for the moment, since I don't need the last drop of power,
    and I don't want to risk a lean run, but it still starts easily
    (inverted, and starting by hand), and throttles up smoothly and
    reliably. Great stuff!
    
    And last but not least it's quiet, and what noise it does make is very 
    pleasant and easy on the ear. As the Pup trickles by on a low pass with 
    the engine burbling away to itself it's a sight and sound to please 
    anyone.
    
    Buy one today!
    
    Nigel.
     
1568.9fyi. RCM&E ArticleGALVIA::ECULLENIt will never fly, Wright !Wed Feb 02 1994 04:565
    There was a good right up in one of the English mags recently on Laser
    engines and Neil etc. Several pages.
    
    
    Eric.