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Conference vmszoo::rc

Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

1173.0. "HAM License Required??????" by WAV14::MARRONE () Mon Jan 29 1990 12:57

    I'm just getting started in this hobby, and last Saturday I ordered a
    whole bunch of things from Tower.  I originally had decided to buy a
    Futaba radio, but the only 1991-ready FM model available in my price
    range, (I think it is the 5UAP) requires a HAM radio license to
    operate!!?  What gives?  Will this become a new "rule" in the future?
    
    I asked if any of the Airtronics radios had this requirement, and the
    answer was no.  Sooooo...I ended up buying an Airtronics 6 channel FM
    1991-ready unit for 159.95, significantly less than I was going to
    shell out for the Futaba.
    
    Any comments?
    
    BTW: I bought the Goldberg Eagle 2 and the OS .40 FP for my VERY first
    RC project.
    
    -Joe (Who_can't_wait_until_the_kit_arrives) 
    
    
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1173.76-METER EQUIP. IS EASY TO GET, BUT *BEWARE*!!!!!!MAUDIB::CASEYATHE DESERT RAT RC-AV8RTue Oct 20 1987 17:2216
    Anker,
    
    Six-meter radio control systems are readily availablt from most,
    if not all, radio manufacturers...we're talking about the 50-53
    MHZ frequency bands.  No proof of license is required to purchase
    the equipment but *DON"T* get caught using it without the appro-
    priate FCC ticket.  HAM's (many of whom fly R/C) are VERRRY pro-
    tective of the exclusivity of the 6-meter band (and rightly so)
    and will DEMAND to see yer' license if yer' not known to them as
    a licensed 6-meter operator.  Also, you should know that the FCC
    "will" prosecute those found to be illegally using 6-meters and
    the maximum penalties if convicted are quite severe: it used to be
    up to $10,000.00 fine and/or a year in jail...correct me if that's
    wrong and/or has changed, HAM's. 
    
    Adios,	Al
1173.1Ham license and radio brand - no connectionELMAGO::TTOMBAUGHHigh Plains DrifterMon Jan 29 1990 13:1823
    re 1173
    
    Joe,
    It sounds to me like the order taker at Tower wasn't being very
    
    helpful or maybe wasn't knowledgeable enough to be helpful.

    Any RC transmitter operating in the 53 MHZ band requires a ham license
    to operate. Perhaps the only Futabas in your price range that they
    had in stock when you called happened to be on those frequencies.
    
    Of course any xmtr. on any of the 72 MHZ freqs. doesn't need a ham
    license to operate. This has nothing to do with the brand of radio.
    
    The order taker should have made this clear. I think you'll be happy
    with the Airtronics radio. I have two and been using one since last
    summer. The FM version is the only way to go.
    
    Can't comment on your plane and engine choice as I only fly gliders
    and electrics. Good luck, we'll be waiting to hear of your experiences.
    
    Terry
    
1173.2not a new ruleNACAD::ARRIGHIopen the pod bay door, HAL.Mon Jan 29 1990 13:2312
    I'm new to RC too, but I've been a ham for 29 years.  Any of the
    radios that operate in the 50mhz to 53mhz range require a ham license.
    Any other rc frequencies (72, 75, 27 mhz) do not.  The Futaba 5UAP
    (according to an add I have here) is available on 50 and 72 mhz.
    
    The 50 and 53 mhz radios fall in the 6 meter ham band (6 meters
    is the wavelength).  This band is used for many things, including
    RC by hams who are into both hobbies.
    
    Regards,
    Tony
    
1173.3Eagle-2 a good choiceLEDS::LEWISMon Jan 29 1990 15:3910
    
    The Eagle 2 is a good choice, you'll find some notes about it in
    this conference.  I can't believe Tower told you the Futaba needed
    a Ham license and the Airtronics didn't.  It is definitely not the
    brand that determines this, it is the frequency (as the past two
    notes have explained).  I'm building an Eagle 2 with my son and a
    few other people in this conference have built or are building them.
    So if you have any questions, feel free to ask!
    
    Bill
1173.4Funny you should askNAC::ALBRIGHTIBM BUSTERS - Who'ya going to call!Mon Jan 29 1990 16:3112
Joe, are you by chance the gentleman I spoke to on the Eagle 2
at the Flying Tigers meeting last week?

As far as the radio's, I agree.  Either the order taker messed up or that
was all they had in stock.  However, I didn't think they stocked the
Ham versions.

I love my Airtronics Vanguards and hope they can be converted to the
50 MHz band.  I called Airtronics last July about converting the Vanguards
and they said call back after the first of the year.  Tomorrow.

Loren
1173.5IT WAS INDEED ME!WAV12::MARRONEMon Jan 29 1990 17:1410
    Yes, we did meet at the Flying Tigers meeting last week.  So far I've
    learned something about the different frequency bands involved.  This
    was not explained to me on the phone.  I think I ended up with a 72 MHz
    unit which is not in the HAM band, hence the different response.
    
    Regards,
    joe
    
    PS.  How do all these noters in here draw pictures of planes?  Do they
    type them each time, or is there a way to save the picture?
1173.6Your getting itNAC::ALBRIGHTIBM BUSTERS - Who'ya going to call!Mon Jan 29 1990 18:3316
Joe,

I thought so.  My offer stands to give assistance.  In fact, when your
bird arrives it might be a good idea if we got the prints and the
instruction book and went through it together.  I'm sure I can save
you much time and aggravation.

I think you are beginning to understand the frequency thing.  Most
aircraft RC'ers in the states operate on a channel in the 72 MHz
band.  Those RC'ers with Ham licenses have the option of using a
recommended channel in the 6 meter (50Mhz) ham band.  RC cars operate
in the 75 MHz band.  Much of this is further explained in a booklet
the AMA will send you after you have sent your application in.  You
will get an application in the plane kit.

Loren