Conference vmszoo::rc

    BILL MURRAY
    PHOENIX
    551-5129
    
    
    I am new to notes but have 4 years experiance in 1/10 RC car racing.
    I raced off road for 3 years and am presently racing dirt oval only.
    Sprint cars and late model stocks is becoming very popular out here
    in Phoenix.  We have 50 to 60 entries every Wednesday and Saturday
    night.  I wouuld like to hear from those who are active in dirt
    oval racing and share ideas.  I am runnig a RC10 with an Ascot sprint
    car conversion, Twister or Quarter Flash motors.  It hooks up and
    hauls.  
    
    
    
    				GO FAST AND TURN LEFT!
    

Its our Club AGM time and also the BRCA (UK equiv of ROAR) 1/10th section
AGM continuation time and I7d like to get some information from 1/10th RC Car
Club members regarding what typical costs are in your part of the world.  
Whenever we consider an increase (!!!) in club subsciption there is a great
outcry so this year I'd like a few comparisons.

1   What is your Club Annual Membership Fee?

1a  Does this include affiliation to your National Association?

2   What is the typical entry fee to a National Associatiom Sanctioned Race?

2a  Is this for 1 or more days racing?

2b  Is membership of the National Association required to enter?

3   What is a typical entry fee to a club meeting with no trophies/prizes?

3a  Is this a full day or half a day?

4   What is the price limit for different motor classes?

5   What is the price limit for 6 cell packs?

5a  What is the typical price range for packs?

I would be greatful for this information as soon as possible.  I'll give you 
the answers for the UK in pounds (1 pound = $1.8 approx)

1   6 pounds (we plan to increase to 8, including BRCA Affiliation), BRCA full
    membership is 6 pounds per year

2   Typically 4 pounds but 5 or even 6 has been noticed last year

2a  This is for one day

2b  BRCA non members may race but not accrue championship points

3   up to 1 pound (50p min) if no trophies, 2-4 pounds if trophies, depending on
    track rental.  Cash prizes are outlawed in Europe by EFRA (European
    Federation...)

4   Standard class 15 pounds, Modified 40 pounds.  This may change at the BRCA
    continuation AGM, but we are fighting it!

5   No price limit, used to be 25 pounds

5a  Under 20 pounds for unmatched 6 packs (Sanyo SC or SCR) up to 40+ pounds
    for so called matched packs (SC, SCR or SCE, if you think you will get the
    good ones rather than rubbish ones that the sponsored drivers don't want!
    Buggy drivers believe in Father Christmas.  The also don't understand 
    much about the Chemistry of Nicads!  How often do YOU re match your cells!

    We don't use 7 cell packs in the UK.  We also banned the 'oversize' Sub C
    cells at our National AGM.

Thanks in advance.

Rob,  bbk Racing

    
    	Hi,
    
    	is there anybody interested in RC-CAR-RACING in the area of
        munich. I drive a Turbo Optima and a Porsche 959 on local
    	races.
    	Please contact ---> Michael Schenkel @UFH
    

    
    Is there any RC car racers out there? Should we open a conference?
    Just testing the waters.
    
    
    		Harry 

    Hi!  I'm just getting started, myself.  I am running a JR-X2 with
    the new Imex street tires.  I started to late in the season for
    any serious dirt stuff, so I got into carpet track 'street' modified.
    I currently race at Hobbies Plus...Yah, I think thats the name---its
    been a couple of weeks since my last race.  Anyway, they are located
    on Amherst street in Nashua NH and are set up quite well.
    
    I just received my order from sheldons.  Yippee! I'll be playing
    with my new stuff tonight.
    
    I loved talking tech. and hardware, so I'd be more than happy to
    add my $.02, but It will be mostly theory/logic because I have so
    little experience.
    
    Fred 'Shiny side down'
    
    

    Glad to sign in!  The name's Greg Dwyer, I work in Merrimack, N.H.
    My son Justin (13 years old) and I have been involved in building,
    modifying, maintaining (lot's of maintaining!) and racing 1/10 scale
    electric off-road machines since last Christmas.  He's got a Kyosho
    Raider, I have a Traxxas Bullet.  Both are currently converted for
    on-road stock class racing (with the cold weather coming, we had
    to say good-bye to the dirt track for awhile).  Hobbies Plus is
    the only track we're racing at currently.  Actually, my son is the
    only one currently racing, I'm playing pit crew and coach.  When
    time and wallet allow, I'll get my own driving time started.
    
    There haven't been too many of us active in this conference, hope
    that can change.  My time for notes is constrained, but I'll try
    to get my priorities straight and contribute more from now on!
    
    Greg

I discovered R/C car racing late last year and purchased a JR-X2 
for off-road racing.  Later I got a Blackfoot for my daughter and 
gradually evolved it into an off-road racing machine.

I race about once a week at local tracks.  There are two excellent 
indoor off-road tracks within reach of where I live: Hobby Haven in 
Livermore and R/C City in Milpitas.

In my high school days (late '60s) I raced scratch-built and Group 
20 slot cars in the L.A. area.  The big slot tracks in L.A. pretty 
much died out while I was off at college.  I hope we can avoid the 
boom-or-bust syndrome with R/C cars.

Mark Brown
UCT
Engineer
Systems Research Center
ENet: DECSRC::MBROWN
Home: Palo Alto, CA

    Dan Daignealt here. I started RC cars so that I could get a feel for RC
    controls. I bought a hellicopter but sisnce its so expensive I never 
    tried to fly it, Some day soon thought...
    
    I've picked up a FUTABA FX10 and a Kyosho MAXXUM FF. I've yet to race
    outside of my back yard but I'm looking forward to trying my hand at
    it. I live in Groton Mass andwork at DSG in Westford...��
    
    	DanD
    

    My son, Justin (14) is the RC car enthusiast in the family (yeah right
    Dad).  I tend to be pit crew, provide second tier financing and some
    technical advice.
    
    He races an RC-10 off-road.  This past summer we spent a lot of time
    at RCPC in W. Bridgewater.  They have indoor dirt and a carpeted oval.
    During the school year he attends High School in Georgia, and has
    succeeded in getting a local hobby shop merchant to set up a dirt track
    (funny, since the guy sells RC-10 and JRX-2s and there were no tracks
    around, the guy didn come up with this himself).
    
    While this conference is mainly flyers, I am sure it is open to car
    drivers and besides every once in a while they have something useful to
    say (Smiley face here)! I think we should stay here.
    
    Walt

I'm a flyer but my son (12+) has been bugging us and we got him a Kyosho Shadow
for his birthday next month. He's been active with friends that have them so I
dare say he'll be an enthusiast soon.

I hope the drivers out there stay here in this conference. I probably wouldn't
monitor a second conference and I feel that there is enough overlap in the
battery, motor, and radio areas for both groups to benefit. We've just got to
get you guys to be less shy!

    It's been a while since I've read this notes file.  I'm pleased to see
    some activity on cars since this conference is so heavily dominated by
    planes.  I would not want to see a new conference for RC cars because I
    gotten alot out of non-car notes in this conference.
    
    I have a heavily modified Turbo Optima and a Big Brute.  I have had
    countless hours of fun building, modifying, crashing, rebuilding, etc.
    with them.  Personally, I get more enjoyment building, modifying and
    maintaining them than running them so I let my kids and other kids in
    my neighborhood run them around (closely supervised of course).
    
    Recently I've been taking my son up to Hobbies Plus in Nashua, N.H. to
    watch the carpet racing.  Even if you don't have a car it is alot of
    fun to watch.  I've gotten the bug to build a 1/12th scale carpet racer
    and hope to take the plunge soon.  I think I might enjoy running the
    cars in competition instead of just around the yard.
    
    Todd
    

    Jimi Ibbett, working out of TTB (next to ZKO) in Nashua NH, living in
    Merrimack NH. Used to race indoor oval, but now into Funny Car drag
    racing. Currently trying to develop a 2-speed transmission and slipper
    clutch combination to handle the power of a Trinity TOP FUEL II motor
    and 10 cell pcak combination. Tire smoke is cute, but does not produce
    optimum acceleration... :-)
    
    "You pop the clutch at *this* end and the 'chute at *that* end"

    Hi folks.  Tony Arrighi based in FXO (Franklin, MA) but currently at
    TAY2 (Littleton, MA) for a few months.  Well, I've found an activity
    that both of my sons (13 and 6) and I enjoy.  Actually, I didn't find
    it; it found us.  I'm still trying to get my older son interested in
    ham radio, but RC took no trying at all.  After "playing" with some toy
    store RC stuff over the years, we got into more "serious" RC recently.
    I'll be entering a reply in topic 505 on our Big Boss truck (more
    accurately "their" truck -- I'm the finance manager and mail order
    supervisor). Somewhere down the road I may get my own on-road racer,
    but not yet. 
    
    We've been down to Roller Kingdom in Hudson, MA on Tuesday night once,
    and we plan to go more often.  Would also like to see what goes
    on at the Framingham civic center on Sunday afternoon and maybe
    get up to NH too.
    
    I'll probably be entering some questions in here. Hope to hear from you
    all. 
    
    Tony

    
    Hi,
       I have just started with the company and have relocated to Ayr,
    Scotland.
    
       I started racing 1/8 scale I.C. cars last year, (complete novice)
    but I have been unable to find out if there is a track or at least
    anyone else interested here abouts.
    
    	I run a Serpent 6000. 
    
    	Any help that is offered will be gratefully received. Especially
    on the glow engines.
    
    
    Murray..

    Hi !
    finally I found someone who  owns a car  that I know (serpent) !!
    I `ve been driving a 1/8 car "on road" for about 10 years (always
    an SG) and I use to go to a really wonderful circuit placed in the
    middle of a large park but, sorry Murray, I live in Milan Italy.
     
    Anyway, My compliments for your Serpent; it seems to be the best
    car actually. The only problem I see is the price: it costs double
    price than an SG (about 500 pounds !).
    
              Mauro.

Mike, son of John Potucek, in Derry, N.H.. I (John) work in NIO in the Gov't 
Systems Mfg. business group.

Mike is into RC Trucks and has a Tamiya "Blackfoot" and a brand new Kyosho
"Big Boss". 
"Boss" has bearings and a "Monster Mash" motor. It will be getting a Robinson 
Ball Diff' in the near future. 
Blackfoot has bearings, Thorpe rear except for the Ball Diff', Heavy Duty 
Shocks, and a lexan body.

Had a MAJOR problem with a Thorpe axle and will not ever deal with them again.
BEWARE, they do NOT back their warrantees.

John Potucek

	Name 		: Katsuhiko Matsushima
	Location        : EIC/JAPAN-OSAKA
	Node		: OSAV03::MATSUSHIMA or OSOV50::MATSUSHIMA
	Interest	: 1/12 Erectric Car,1/8 Engine Car
			  (Someday I wish enjoy scale plane)


	I am very new to R/C car for 3 monthes. But 20 years ago,
	I enjoyed R/C plane with my father. And stoped to enjoy it
	15 years ago for my father's death.
	Anyway,I enjoy R/C ON-ROAD Racer with my friend now.
	I currently drive Associated RC-12L and TAMIYA Ferrari F1. 
	Next year, I'm going to step up to Serpent Sprint or BMT
	891. And someday, I'll back to R/C plane( Maybe then, Scale
	plane ).

	By the way, there is no R/C note in DEC-J, but I find a pic-
	ture of FF OFF-ROAD Racer with digital logo decal in japanese
	R/C magazine.

						/Katsushiko 

    I am Carlos Jensen from Brasil plant PCM.
    My sons and me started in RC cars in the end of the last year.
    We own RC10 aluminum chassis and we "play" in competition of two 
    categories, 2W drive race and dirty oval that we call here open rallye.
    
    best regards.
    
    Carlos
    

    Name: Philip Howk
    Node: ROCHE::HOWK
    LOC:  KCO - Kansas City, MO
    
    Interest: RC 1/10 scale car racing
    
    Toy Box:
    
       *  2 RC10s - 1 full-body oval, 1 Sprint, both with STEALTH tranny &
                    full bearings
       *  1 JRX2 - offroad w/bearings
       *  Novak, Tekin, and MRC receivers
       *  Novak T4 & T1, and TEKIN 310 & 411P ESCs
       *  several 1200, 1400, and 1700 MAH SC, SCR, and SCE home built
          battery packs
       *  Protech 702 and 706, and TEKIN BC100L battery chargers 
       *  KO-PROPO EX-5, MRC Top Gun, and Futaba Magnum radios with various 
          Futaba, MRC, and Novak servos
       *  Boxes of miscellaneous parts, tires, etc.
    
    
    There are a couple of excellent indoor tracks here in Kansas City that
    feature dirt and clay oval, asphalt on-road/oval, and offroad.  One 
    shop has 3 independent indoor race tracks with these different surfaces
    and configurations.  Each shop has a 7-days per week race schedule and
    one shop races for $$$$.  I got interested in this sport/hobby because
    it seemed to be an excellent father/son activity from an entertainment,
    competitive, and educational perspective.  Hopefully when my son is old 
    enough to participate I will have learned enough (or spent enough $$$$)
    to teach him the tricks of the trade.  I have been in the hobby for
    almost two years and am just now getting to the A-mains consistently.
    .

I'm located in Colorado Springs.

My racing stable consists of:

A broken Formula V (SCCA, full-size)

2 JRX-pro (started as JRX-2s)

1 JRX-2 (all the old parts, my 4yr old son's car)

1 TRC PRO-10

The local racetrack, Colorado Springs R/C Raceways, has an indoor 3400 sq. ft.
offroad track and races outdoors in the parking lot during the summer 
(1/12 and 1/10 scale electric, 1/8 and 1/4 scale gas).

I'm located in Maynard.

I have a Tamiay Hotshot

Futuba Magnum JR radio

I just got the Hotshot (my first car), I bought it used and it looks like I'm
going to have to rebuild it. Or at least take apart and clean everything.

Hi Brad, when do they run the Gas stuff, specialy the 1/4 scale Gas stuff, I
just hafta see that....

Mark Antry

    what the heck...
    
    Dave Mitton
    Office: LKG
    Home: Arlington,Mass
    
    I've recently resurected my 1/8 scale gas car.  (discussed somewhere
    else) and am considering buying into 1/10 scale electrics.
    
    Interested in tracking the hobby and the tracks in the area.
    Is any one racing gas in the area?

    Another Road Warrior...
    
    Steve Schustak
    Office: NJO, Parsippany, NJ
    
    I've been running/racing my RC10 offroad, and 10L on-road for about a
    year and a half.  Current problem...the indoor track I've been racing
    the 10L on went Chapter 11 and closed.  Anybody know a good indoor
    track in northern NJ???
    
    Aside,,,just got bitten by the RC plane bug, too.  75% through building
    a Goldberg Eagle 2 (Enya 40 BB, Futaba 4Ch FM)
    

    Sal Villari
    Pottstown, Pa
    337-4128
    
    I just got my first truck...a Losi JRX-T.  It will be all stock from
    the box until my first crash.  I have a Futaba Magnum Sport radio, a
    speedworks 350 and Novak T4 ESC.  The track by my house closed but
    there are several nearby.  I'm just going to off-road in my local field
    for now.

    Robert White
    Burlington, VT
    
    Been flying for 11 years, racing for 1 1/2.  Cars are fun, you can
    drive away from most accidents but can fly away.  Have 10L SS, 12L and
    a JRX2/T. I convert back and forth depending upon what I want to race
    that day.
    
    Racers in Mass., is Wilmington Speedway still going?
    
    Robert

    Steven Vore
    Roswell, GA
    
    Just getting started in R/C Cars (flew for a couple of years). Looking
    for others in the ALF area.  Hello?
    

    Chris White
    Athol Ma.
    
      A friend and I each just purchased an Inferno 10, 1/10 scale glow
    fuel powered cars. Were running the O.S. CZR in them.
    
      We have each had a few electrics before,Optima Mids,Turbo Ultima's
    etc..
    
      I am impressed with the power of the CZR, with stock gearing it has
    a top speed of about 30 mph. Not the fastest thing around but with the
    power these things display it seems with different gearing they would
    go much faster....
    
      I noticed the last note in this topic was some time ago..Any other
    r/c car people still out there ? Anyone else with glow powered ones ?
    
      Thats all for now..Nice to find an r/c notes conference. Hope there
    will remain enough people to keep it going !
    
      Chris
    

  Hi Chris, and welcome!

  I don't know of anyone else in here who devotes their primary R/C energies
to land-based vehicles.  In other words...the rest of us are "Air Heads"! :^)

  But don't let that stop you from contributing in here!  We've had a lot of
people convert or at least try other types of r/c because someone else shared
their experiences in here. But a word of caution....use real simple, single
syllable words to describe what your doing.  Otherwise your going to completely
confuse some people (like me)!  :^)   Engines, radios, and batteries we 
understand!  But if you start talking about a 5/8 fusion gear transmission....
your gonna lose me! :^)

  Now what I'd like to see in an r/c car is an ambulance and fire engine that
I can send out to my next crash site!  :^)


        Welcome aboard!


              Jim

  P.S.  This is a VERY serious notesfile!  We expect you to treat it 
        accordingly!!!


               :^)

    I'm still here and I do both, but mainly electrics on the ground and
    full power, arrrg arrrg, arrg, in the air!
    
    Robert

    I'm still here, mainly looking.
    
    My main interest is cars. Winter indoor started last week. This year
    I'm trying an F-1.
    
    Fred

    Yes I'm still around too, primarily as a reader though... 
    
    I'm into the 1/12 electric and Fred Z. et al are trying to get me into
    a gas car for next summer.  Only time will tell I guess.  Drop me a
    line and we'll chat about it sometimes.
    
    al

    
    Well, I finally decided to dig out the Inferno 10 again.
    Last season after only a few times out I had a servo go, and
    I never replaced it. Put one in last nite and should have it
    running sometime this weekend.
    
    As I said in my original note, I really like the glow motor..
    
    Chris
    
    

    I've entered the world of R/C.  R/C cars, that is.  My brother bought 
    a Traxxas Stampede for Christmas "for his kids".  Yeah, right, we all 
    believe that, don't we?  
    
    Anyway, I drove it a few times and it was a blast, so after some
    research and advice from him I ordered myself a 1/10 scale monster
    truck.  I got a Kyosho Tracker, and upgraded with ball bearings and
    an electronic speed control.  My radio is a Futaba Junior.  I chose
    the monster truck because I can drive it in the back yard, without
    having to seek out tracks or what have you.
    
    This weekend I finished painting the body.  The stock body isn't yet 
    put together, because it's got a lot of chromed add-ons, and I figured
    I'd just smash them up learning to drive.  I bought a Chevy S-10 body
    by Parma that has no add-ons and had a great time painting it - black
    with red patterns on it.  In fact, I had so much fun that I might just
    buy another body so I can try some other designs.
    
    I initially bought the Kyosho truck, radio, batteries and recharger from
    Tower Hobbies.  Since then I've been going to Hobby, Etc, in Amherst,
    NH for painting supplies, my second truck body, spare parts, advice,
    etc.  Those guys are a great help, and if it weren't for them and my 
    brother I'd probably still be struggling with it.
    
    I've never modelled before, and I know nothing about cars.  Imagine my
    surprise when the box arrived full of itty-bitty parts, and minimal
    directions!  I was rather taken aback.  Somehow I was under the
    impression that this truck was ready-to-run.  It took me awhile, but I
    finally have it running, and I learned A LOT from it.  Now if only the 
    snow would melt so I can drive it!
    
    I hope there are still some car nuts here,
    Karen.

    I'm still here, car guy first then airplanes.
    
    You've bought a good truck for running in the back yard, I
    think you'll have lots of fun.
    
    If you want to race you will have to find out what classes they have
    and see if your truck matches any of them.
    
    First hint would be to always set up a course before you just run
    around, even in your back yard. This will help you learn to steer the
    truck where you want it to go rather than where it happens to go. This
    will come in handy when you drive on a 10 FT wide track with other
    trucks. You will know how to drive.
    
    Good luck
    Fred
           

    
    Hi,
    
    Another car fan here. Don't note in here really, but then how much
    talk of cars is in here !
    
    More into nitro power at this point. Started with electric for quite
    a while, then got the bug. Power is VERY impressive, makes driving
    the electric seem rather tame after getting used to the nitro...
    
    Chris

    Chris, what car are you driving ?
    
    We run an OFF-ROAD "Pay-Dirt" series and an ON-ROAD "Easy street"
    series.
    
    "Pay-Dirt" is for .12 trucks and Buggies, plus stock electric Buggies and
    Open motor Stadium trucks.
    
    "Easy Street" is for 1/10th on road up to .15 and Formula One and 4
    wheel drive Sedans on the electric side.
    
    I like the Formula Ones the best, but the GAS are quicker most times.
    
    Fred
                                           

    
    Hi Fred,
    
    I have two, ones the 1/10th Rampage Pro (buggy), and the 
    Inferno 10 (4wd buggy).
    
    Haven't used them much because of winter, but probably will be getting
    them going soon....for off-road, they seem to me to really out power
    the electrics..
    
    Where do you race ?
    
    Chris

    Hi Chris, I have a tamiya F-1, a Benetton. We run them during the winter 
    indoors on carpet and in parking lot races during the summer.
    
    I've seen the Inferno 10 go, quite fast, much faster than electric.
    4 wheel drive makes it handle like it's on rails in the dirt.
    
    If you want to know more about our racing do a search on YAHOO or
    Altavista for "National Capital Radio racers" I can never remember the
    addresses. Go to the home page and you can see our racing. Our 2 series
    races are Easy street and Pay dirt. Plus the indoors racing is covered
    very well.
    
    Fred      
    

    
    Unfortunately, I'm on a VT1200, so I don't think I can get on
    the internet/web.
    
    Chris