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905.1 | TRY M.A. MAGAZINE.... | PNO::CASEYA | THE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) | Tue Feb 28 1989 13:07 | 10 |
| Re: .-1,
Check the Old timer column in Model Aviation magazine. It may well
contain the information you need for hitching up with S.A.M. again.
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| | 00 Adios, Al
|_|_| ( >o
| Z__(O_\_ (The Desert Rat)
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905.3 | Here it is! | 37623::COX | So Speedy, how do we get zeez brains? | Tue Feb 28 1989 17:16 | 18 |
| I'm just in the process of joining S.A.M myself.
The address is :
Bob Dodds
Society of Antique Modelers
209 Summerside Land
Encinitas, CA 92024
Membership is $10.00 per year with 6 issues of SAM Speaks!
--|-- Happy (con)Trails!
(O)
________/ \_______ Scott Cox
P.S. I still can't figure out of S.A.M. refers to antique models or
modelers! Oh well, if the shoe fits! 8^)
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905.4 | my checks (going) in the mail ! | STEREO::HOWARD | Isn't this FUN ?? | Wed Mar 01 1989 12:25 | 4 |
| Thank you Scott...
-ph
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905.5 | SAM SPEAKS | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Tue Dec 12 1989 07:06 | 24 |
| Update on S.A.M.
Refer to .3 for Treasurer, membership & dues info
From a recent issue of their newsletter:
SAM SPEAKS is the official publication of the Society of
Antique Modelers and is published 6 times/year.
Editor: Bill Darkow
1237 S. Grant St.
Tacoma, WA 98405
Phone: (206)272-6395
Officers - President: Jim Adams, 2538 N. Spurgeon St.
Santa Ana, CA 92706
Eastrn VP: Mike Granieri, 3 Dryden Rd. Box 78
Pottersville, NJ 07979
Midwst VP: Bob Larsh, 45 S. Whitcomb Ave.,
Indianapolis, IN 46241
Rky Mt VP: W.L. "Bill" Schmidt, 4647 Krueger
Wichita, KS 67220
Westrn VP: Bob Angel, 1001 Patterson Rd.,
Santa Maria, CA 93455
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905.6 | Antiques | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Tue Dec 12 1989 08:09 | 21 |
| Ray, about your search for old engine parts:
Surprisingly I couldn't get anything out of researching the
SAM SPEAKS newsletter, at least not with a quick review.
I did find some ads in Model Builder and Flying Models,
however, that may be of interest. I won't retype the ad
contents but the ad source for your inquiry, as follows:
Engines, ignition, old, used, etc. from R. Eierman, 504
Las Posas, Ridgecrest, CA, 93555 (619)375-5537
S.A.S.E. for list.
Antique ignition & glow parts, catalog 100 pages, $8.00(?)
Chris Rossbach, R.D. 1, Queensboro Manor, Box 390,
Gloversville, NY 12078 (No phone given)
New & Used motor list, $1.00 T. Crouss, 100 Smyrna,
W. Springfield, MA 01089 (No phone given)
john
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905.7 | Thanks John... | BEMIS::SYSTEM | | Thu Dec 14 1989 10:33 | 9 |
| John:
Thanks for the effort, I'm going to check them all out
and see if I can get the parts that I need. Oh, by the way, when
I got the engine from my brother-in-law, it had an old wodden prop
on it. The prop is almost new, how about that, lucky huh?
Ray...
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905.8 | Parts source | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Thu Dec 14 1989 10:43 | 11 |
|
Ray,
I,m sure you're going to guard that prop as well, as the
antique that it must be. There's a fellow here at my plant
who also has a couple of Ohlsson's, and he too has been looking
for parts (although not too intently). If and when you find a
source would you let us know?
john
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905.9 | Yup.. | BEMIS::SYSTEM | | Thu Dec 14 1989 11:32 | 7 |
|
John, I sure will..
Ray...
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905.10 | Model Art! | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Wed Jan 03 1990 12:27 | 65 |
| From the latest issue of SAM Newsletter, here copied for your
pleasure, is an article entitled "Aeromodeling as an Art Form"
written by Art Grosheider, Newsletter Editor, SAM 1 - Model Museum
Flying Club, Denver, Co.. ....... ....:
A recent newspaper article was headlined "Art World Shows Contempt
For Society". The author was reacting to the recent junk that was
displayed and funded by the National Endowment for the Arts.
He went on to say that, "One needs to grasp the sorry moral condition
of art today to get a perspective on the history of art and its meaning
to society."
We have reached the point where it is just about impossible to offend
anyone anymore, but every artist worth his salt yearns to create some-
thing so offensive and so insulting as to earn him a clear judgement
of genius for his success at being misunderstood. The "art" display
that involved walking on the American flag and the crucifix in urine
are cases in point.
When one looks back at the majestic sweep of art in history and its
awesome accomplishments, how nasty and puny are so many of the prod-
ucts and so much of the philosophy of contemporary art by comparison.
Art was once thought of as a service to people and was measured by
the degree to which it was "ennobling". Art once achieved greatness
by embodying great ideas as well as mastery of the medium.
So, what does all this have to do with model airplanes?
To me, the designing, building and flying of model airplanes is an
art form - though not recognized as such in this country. I have done
some painting, and it is far easier for me to paint a picture than to
build a decent model - and the painting just hangs there.
Like sculptors, we work in three dimensions, fashioning materials into
a lovely and functioning whole. If you want to see mastery of our
medium, take a look at what is being flown at contemporary scale
contests. These are better than museum quality I've seen at the
Smithsonian - and they fly! I've seen models turned out by our members
that are so beautiful they can bring tears to your eyes - yet the aver-
age dweeb still thinks we "play with toy airplanes".
Is what we do "ennobling"? I don't know about the rest of you, but I
am plenty ennobled by seeing what we build and how it flies. I am
ennobled by Joe Elgins beautiful Playboy every time I see one. I am
ennobled by the old airplane and engine designers who have given us so
much pleasure.
Are machines art? You bet they are. The Italians know it and their
designs show it. Make no mistake - what we do is an art form. It
isn't recognized as such, but maybe we're lucky at that because it
hasn't been corrupted by the public. (Ed. note: what about the plague
of plastic, cloned ARF's?)
Maybe what we do is kind of kinetic sculpture. In any event, it is an
art form, however obscure. Keep that in mind the next time you are
building and flying. You have mastered the medium. You have created a
thing of beauty. Your creation soars with the birds and you have
ennobled yourself and your friends in the process. Howe many contemp-
orary artists can say the same?
respectfully copied, john
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905.11 | JUST GREAT....!!!! | PNO::CASEYA | THE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) | Wed Jan 03 1990 13:13 | 13 |
| Re: .-1, John,
THANX A JILLION fer' re-printing this great testimonial here. I LOVE
IT!! It says all the things I think/feel about our hobby/sport/rec-
reation and says it eloquently. We should all carry a copy of this
article in our wallets and produce it any/every time we're confronted
by some uneducated rube who accuses us of [ugh!] "playing with toys."
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| | 00 Adios, Al
|_|_| ( >o
| Z__(O_\_ (The Desert Rat)
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905.12 | $10 well spent | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Wed Jan 03 1990 15:06 | 19 |
| Al,
I'm deeply gratified that you read this piece by Grosheider,
and hope that others too have read it, and dwelled on it a little
bit.
I hope you make it to the Oldtimers meet in Feb., many of us
will be waiting for your report on it.
Incidentally, in the last issue, alone, of MB I saw references
to: Lanzo, Good, Korda, Taibi, Ohlsson, Pond, and others that I
don't recall at the moment, and in perusing the list of contenders
and results in the SAM Newsletter - it was another walk down memory
lane apropos the recent discussions we have all been enjoying in
the notes files lately.
I'm really not that active in the Oldtimer movement, but it is
definitely worth my $10/year just for the reading pleasure I get
out of SAM Newsletter.
john
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905.13 | SAM FAME | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Thu Jan 04 1990 07:17 | 23 |
| More news from SAM.
This taken from the Newsletter:
SAM HALL OF FAME AWARDS
Ten famous modelers were inducted into the SAM hall of fame at the
1989 SAM Champs in Jean, Nevada;
Irwin Ohlsson
Dr. Walter Good
Bert Pond
Sal Taibi
John Pond
Dick Korda
Maxwell Bassett
Frank Zaic
Gordon Light
Chet Lanzo (deceased)
Sep/Oct issue of SAM SPEAKS,
regards, john
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905.14 | Bleed!,Oh Heart! | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Mon Feb 05 1990 07:31 | 37 |
| I just got the Nov/Dec issue of SAM SPEAKS, and thought you might
be interested in this article about the A.J. FIREBALL.
The following is represented verbatim:
WHAT'S A U-CONTROL MODEL DOING IN SAM SPEAKS?
by Bill Darkow
You may have been surprised and a bit shocked to find an ad for a
control-liner in what is essentially a free-flight and R/C publication.
Well, it's not generally known, but the Jim Walker "Fireball" is a SAM-
legal free flight! Yes, that's right, and the documentation is
provided by the U.S.Navy.
The American Junior Aircraft Co. built Fireballs under contract with
the U.S. Navy in 1942.
(Here I must caution sensitive modellers to read further at their
own risk)
They were equipped with Ohlsson .23 ignition engines, painted bright
orange and launched free-flight from ships at sea for target practice.
(In case you haven't heard, war is not only hell-but it is extremely
wasteful.)
There is no record as to how successful this program was, but never-
theless it was implemented.
If you doubt a Fireball can fly successfully as a free-flight, check
with Clarence Bull, winner of the Spirit of SAM Concours event at the
1989 SAM Champs. He'll be glad to show you how his Bantam .19 version
performs.
Who'll be the first to fly an R/C version?
john.
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905.15 | HINT OF THE MONTH | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Tue Mar 20 1990 09:19 | 24 |
| From "SAM SPEAKS", an article by Dave Gilbert, Houston 82
"The Good Ol' Boys"
I have found that in order to be most successful, Old Timer
models need to be recreated in the same atmosphere and spirit
in which they were originally created.
One way in which to accomplish this is to build them to a
background of "Big Band" music. Benny Goodman seems to be the
most effective with "Flyin' Home", "Stompin' at the Savoy" and
"One O'Clock Jump" being particularly noteworthy examples.
Artie Shaw's "SUmmit Ridge Drive:and "Jungle Drums" will do it
too. The model seems to come to life right on your workbench.
There are probably others.
(Ed. Note [Bill Darkow]: Naturally, I wouldn't pass along such
a valuable and important tip without testing it first. While
Benny Goodman seemed to be OK, I found that Glenn Miller's
"In the Mood" got better results. However, overexposure can
lead to a slight twitchiness in the tail section and a tendency
to "Dutch Roll" rythmically in the glide.)
John
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905.16 | 'Ol Time Mtn.Music..the only way to fly | ELMAGO::TTOMBAUGH | High Plains Drifter | Tue Mar 20 1990 12:26 | 10 |
| re .15
Goodman and Miller work ok if you're building an old timer designed
by someone from New Jersey, but for truly superior performance
try building to the strains of the Monroe brothers (Bill & Charlie),
Mainers' Mountaineers, Uncle Dave Macon, or Charlie Poole &
the North Carolina Ramblers, to name just a few.
Terry
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905.17 | I closed my mind when they stopped using props | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Tue Mar 20 1990 12:42 | 10 |
| Re.: .15,.16
I hate to sound like a Long-Haired "Square", but I go for
the Really antique music when I build, - like: Mozart or
Vivaldi. Maybe even some Gregorian Chants.
Especially good if you're doing a model of Da Vinci's
flying machine, or maybe a Pterodactyl !
john
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905.18 | Music to build by | K::FISHER | Only -13 Days till Phoenix! | Wed Mar 28 1990 11:33 | 15 |
| Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong.
I listen to such jewels as
"My Word" from the BBC
Dragnet
The Six Shooter (Jimmy Stewart)
Hopalong Cassady
and my favorite of all is...
The Jack Benny Show
Bye --+--
Kay R. Fisher |
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905.19 | "SHIFTING GEARS" | RUTLND::JNATALONI | | Tue Apr 17 1990 08:38 | 28 |
| This from the last issue of FM, F/F SPORT column, by Larry Kruse,
excerpted, without anyone's permission! : (Parentheses are mine-JN)
Shifting Gears
One of the attractive features of our hobby/sport is that it has so
many facets that it is impossible for a died-in-the-wool modeler to
ever feel that he'll be able to build all of the models he'd like to
build. Not only that, but the very idea of being bored with it all
is virtually impossible to conceptualize. Typically, however, a
modeler who has been single-mindedly pursuing one aspect of the hobby
for a period of time can really be refreshed by occasionally "Shifting
gears" and focusing his or her attention to one of the other facets
for a while.
(The author now goes on to describe how he, by chance, got talked
into building an OT rubber for a SAM contest.) - and continues:
Since last fall, I've completed three Old Timers and have two more on
the board. In all. the experience has been so refreshing that I'm not
going to give up Old Time free flight when I return to scale modeling.
It's an area rich in the heritage of our hobby and one that I would
highly recommend to novice and expert alike
(I can attest to this folks, having a stick n' tissue on the board,
and puzzlin' out the fine points of construction, is satisfying -
and educational - even for an old timer like me!)
John
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905.20 | SAM FAME | LEHIGH::JNATALONI | | Thu Aug 02 1990 08:02 | 19 |
| I think it's nice to pay some homage to the 'Greats' in our
hobby, so here's a list of this years additions to the SAM
HALL OF FAME, as taken from the latest issue of SAM SPEAKS.
David Baker
Joe Beshar
Wm. L. Brown
Frank Ehling
Joe Elgin
Mike Granieri
Charles H. Grant (deceased)
Herbert J. Greenberg
Joe Kovel
Irwin Polk
Nathan Polk
Ben Shereshaw
Earl Stahl
Henry Struck
Elbert J. Weathers (deceased)
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