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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 634.1 | WISH I COULD HELP BUT I CAN'T....... | PNO::CASEYA | THE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) | Thu Jul 28 1988 15:32 | 22 |
| Hi Trev,
Are you new to the notes_file? Don't recall seeing the name before
but I see yer' from Basingstoke...you must've known Bob Day, eh?
Welcome aboard; I miss hearing from the UK on as frequent a basis
as when Bob was there...'twixt you and Andrew (Boddington), perhaps
the gap is filled.
I hate to rain on yer' parade and I hope I'm wrong but I doubt you'll
evoke much response from the "colonies" as we see verrrry few British
kits here. A few Brian Taylor/Mick Reeves scale kits are imported
but that's about the extent of it. Hopefully a fellow Brit noter
will come to yer' aid; as much as I (we) would love ta' help, it's
probably not likely as we have no knowledge of the ship in question.
Best o' luck with yer' project.
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| | 00 Adios, Al
|_|_| ( >o
| Z__(O_\_ (The Desert Rat)
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| 634.2 | time to reconsider? | WRASSE::FRIEDRICHS | Golf 5, Jeff 1 | Thu Jul 28 1988 16:19 | 24 |
| Actually Al, I think that the "Flair" kit is manufactured here in
the U.S. They have ads in RCM and MA all the time, and they push
their stuff heavily at Rhinebeck...
I have not built nor seen a built plane from the kits. They are
not meant to be scale, and that is why they don't use the prototype's
real name.
Now to raelly rain on your parade (Al must have missed this in your
opening note...)... I think everyone in this file will agree that
building such a plane as your first endeavor is going to be a mistake.
Biplanes in general are not good trainers; WW-I planes tend to
be even less forgiving.
Please go back and read all of the great information that people
have entered for the beginer. There are lots of suggestions for
first/second planes...
All of this is meant to make sure that your first experience with
R/C is an enjoyable one. I really am not trying to be a kill-joy...
cheers,
jeff
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| 634.3 | Good for a laugh! | COMICS::TALBOT | Trevor Talbot | Fri Jul 29 1988 05:18 | 14 |
| Hi,
Thanks for the replies chaps, I have already read the earlier
notes on the suggested beginners planes etc.. BUT.. I love a challenge
and the BIPE should give me a good run for my money! for at least
10 seconds (if I get it off the ground..when built!).
When I finish building it and have about to perform maiden flight
I'll post another note to let you know how I got on with the build
and then a post flight breakdown. Other BIPE fans may find it
interesting.
bye for x months..
Baron Von Trev
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| 634.4 | Let's get the dialog going again Al! | HAMPS::WARWICK_B | | Tue Aug 16 1988 07:01 | 18 |
| Hi Trevor,
I am building a Legionairre ( very similar ) and several of the
guys in my club ( Reading & District MAC ) have built the Pupeteer.
I am in Hampshire House ( extn 5239 ) - give me a call and we'll
get together.
Regards
Brian
P.S. Hi Al - you can't keep a good guy out - I'm back - started
back yesterday with the old badge number - Tektronix made me redundant!
Soooo - there are a few more of us in the UK
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| 634.5 | WELCOME BACK, BRIAN....!! | PNO::CASEYA | THE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) | Tue Aug 16 1988 11:59 | 12 |
| Hi, Brian,
I wondered what had happened to you. Bob Day said he thought you'd
left the company but he had no details. What was it you were
struggling to get going, a helicopter? Did you ever get it worked
out??
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| | 00 Adios, Al
|_|_| ( >o
| Z__(O_\_ (The Desert Rat)
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| 634.6 | Progress report so far. | COMICS::TALBOT | Trevor Talbot | Fri Feb 03 1989 12:46 | 41 |
| Hi again,
Months have passed since my last note entry into this conference,
I have been over worked etc.. etc.. But have managed to progress
on the all important build. Well how's it going you're wondering!
the answer is very slowly I guess, not being too sure on average
build times for biplanes!!
We have built lower port and lower starboard wings, these have
been joined and what a mess the fibre-glass and resin makes!! The
servo bay and control wires for ailerons have been added. The ailerons
have been cut out and made. The same for the upper port and
starbboard.
The fuselage with cockpit and cabane struts was interesting
to build, it went faster than the wings, doesn't balsa curve nicely
when one side is dampened to shape the barrel front?
The emmpenage was built relatively quickly and requires the
mylar hinges and control wires added next.
The final rigging is next and will tell us if everything so
far has been built true and square etc....
Has anyone got tips on how to add the mylar hinges, can you
or do you:
1) Insert them or recess them into the balsa securing with glue.
2) Glue them on the balsa surface and cover with heatshrink
material.(tacky)
3) bolt them them on some how.
I think I'll plump for number 1 but welcome comments.
We have a planned maiden flight (if build is completed etc on time)
for easter bank holiday weekend( weather permitting).
till the next time,
see ya
-Trev
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| 634.7 | Pin 'em for peace of mind | LEDS::LEWIS | | Fri Feb 03 1989 13:49 | 24 |
|
>> 1) Insert them or recess them into the balsa securing with glue.
>> 2) Glue them on the balsa surface and cover with heatshrink
>> material.(tacky)
>> 3) bolt them them on some how.
I recommend (1) plus at least one pin per hinge. Simplest method
is to push a steel straight pin thru the wing and hinge (after the hinge
is glued in), push until the pin head is slightly below the balsa
surface, then cut the pin off flush underneath. A drop of CA on top
of the pin keeps it in place.
A more elegant method is to drill a hole thru wing/hinge, insert a
drop of glue (ambroid or epoxy) and then a round toothpick
and cut flush at top and bottom of wing and sand smooth.
Use at least one pin on each side of each hinge. Losing a control
surface can ruin your day!
Bill
P.S. in case you don't know, there are inexpensive tools available
that help you center the hinge nice and square.
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| 634.8 | Stick it to 'em! | COMICS::TALBOT | Trevor Talbot | Mon Feb 06 1989 07:36 | 9 |
| Thanks for you prompt reply Bill,
Great advice, I'll follow the cocktail method, sounds best to
me. I wonder if you can elaborate on the in-expensive item for
hinge installation that you mention, I have not heard of this before,
many thanks again,
-Trev
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| 634.9 | Hinge slotting kit | LEDS::LEWIS | | Tue Feb 07 1989 09:04 | 7 |
|
A few companies offer hinge slotting kits for a few bucks, it's
basically a special Exacto blade and a tool to align the blade
so it is centered and parallel. I know Tower sells several types,
but can't tell you which is best - anyone have a recommendation?
Bill
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| 634.10 | | SA1794::TENEROWICZT | | Tue Feb 07 1989 09:40 | 25 |
|
I used to use the DRbro hinge slotter guage. The one that's like
a guage with a small plastic pin protruding..... Well after wearing
out two of them and in the middle of finishing a ship one day I
made my own. Really quite simple.
I took two pieces of 3/8 x 1/4 hardwood and cut them to length.
app. 1". Then I took two strips of 1/8"ply 1/4 wide by 1" and tack
glued them together to make a 1/4x 1/4" piece. I marked the center
and then drilled three holes. One at each end and the third in the
center. I/16" holes in the ends and a 1/32" hole in the center.
I then split the ply apart and using servo mounting screws I screwed
the four pieces of wood together to make a square. I then installed
a T pin in the center holes of each ply piece and cut off the excess.
This set up fits all wing training edge sizes. Oh yes forgot. I
rotated one of the ply pieces 180 degrees just in case the center
drilling was off a little. If it is you get two scribed lines on
the trailing edge. The center of the trailing edge is in the center
of the two scribed lines. I most cases careful drilling will eliminate
this problem.
Tom
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| 634.11 | interested but puzzled! | COMICS::TALBOT | Trevor Talbot | Tue Feb 07 1989 11:08 | 12 |
| Thanks again for speedy responses,
The slotter guage design instructions posted earlier, sound great
and are probably easy to understand if you know roughly what the
thing looks like! However, being a complete novice I've never seen
any guage slotters before, so trying to build one I will need precise
step by step instructions. I tried sketching what I thought it may
look like but couldn't really picture it, perhaps Tom you could
list the 'idiots' guide to building one, so that I can have ago
at building your design.
-Trev
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| 634.12 | | HEFTY::TENEROWICZT | | Tue Feb 07 1989 12:53 | 54 |
| OK Trev, I'll give it a try. To start it helps if you have a drill
press at your disposal...
Materials list.
QTY
---------------
Hardwood stick 1/4 x 3/8 x 1" 2
plywood stick 1/8 x 1/4 x 1" 2
Servo mounting screws 4
"T" pins 2
Take the two 1/4 x 3/8" pieces and tack glue them together to make
a piece 3/4" x 1/4". Locate a 1/16"hole app. 3/16" of an inch from
each end. Drill the hole into the 3/4"thickness. Seperate these
pieces and put aside.
Take the 1/8 x 1/4"ply pieces and tack glue them together to make
a piece 1/4 x 1/4". locate a 1/16" hole app. 3/16 of an inch from
each end. Also locate a 1/32nd hole in the center of these two
holes . Seperate these pieces.
Place one of the ends of the 1/8"ply pieces over on end of one of
the 1/4" pieces and secure with a servo mounting screw. this should
be a tight enough fit to eliminate slop but also allow the pieces
to swivel. Repeat this assembly step on the other pieces.
---------------------
/ o / / o /
/ /------------/ /
/ / / /
"T"pin--> o / / o <--------- "T"pin
/ / / /
/ /------------/ /
/ o / / o /
---------------------
Install the "T" pins where noted and cut off the excess.
Done
See if this helps?
Tom
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| 634.13 | | COMICS::TALBOT | Trevor Talbot | Thu Feb 09 1989 04:15 | 9 |
| Thanks Tom,
These instructions are much clearer than the last set, I like
the sketch, this clears up my mind on what it should look like.
Now I feel confident in building it, I wonder could I ask you to
supply details on how to use it in a similiar fashion.
Cheers Trev.
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| 634.14 | Maiden flight... | COMICS::TALBOT | Trevor Talbot | Mon Sep 25 1989 06:35 | 22 |
| It's me again,
Another set of x months have passed, the plane has now been
fully built, covered and roundels hand painted on the covers,
engine run-in, fuel proofed etc etc oh and the pilot added with
obligatory scarf!
On Sunday 24th Sept. MAIDEN flight day! The sun was high and
bright, no wind, a little cloud cover but ideal flying conditions
for the first flight. Engine started up and taxi commences, open
up the throttle and ....heart in mouth, pulse racing..she's airborn,
after a short yardage, a dip to the left but trimming and more lift
kept it up..(12 seconds into flight) the plane commences it's first
turn, no problems and from then on more turns , a roll and a loop
and the all important safe landing.
Heart beat coming back to normal, the plane was examined for
any stress damaged etc.. none found, a slight adjustment to aileron
connections will be required for next flight to reduce vibration
but other than this minor change....everything went o.k and most
of the flight was filmed for posterity reasons....exit 2 fairly
proud aviators..
-Trev
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| 634.15 | WAY TA' GO, CUZ'..... | PNO::CASEYA | THE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) | Mon Sep 25 1989 11:48 | 9 |
| C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S, TREV!!
BTW, is the Puppeteer the one that resembles the Sopwith Camel/Pup/
Snipe?
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| | 00 Adios, Al
|_|_| ( >o
| Z__(O_\_ (The Desert Rat)
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| 634.16 | | COMICS::TALBOT | Trevor Talbot | Tue Sep 26 1989 13:38 | 5 |
| Hi Al,
It looks like the Sopwith PUP, and thanks for your concrats..
-Trev
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