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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

442.0. "MICROBALLONS" by DARTH::GAROZZO () Thu Jan 21 1988 15:26

     WHAT ARE MICROBALLONS AND WHAT ARE THEY USED FOR. DO YOU USE THEM
    BY THEMSELVES OR DO YOU MIX IT WITH SOMETHING?
    
    BOB G.
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442.1its like dustTALLIS::LADDThu Jan 21 1988 15:306
    microballoons are the moral equivalent to balsa dust.  i usually
    mix it with epoxy or fiberglass resin.  the higher the ratio of
    microballons to resin, the lighter it is and easier to sand.
    also you can mix it so think you can use it like putty.
    
    kevin                                                  
442.3Boo for Micro-Balloons!!!!ARCANA::JORGENSENThu Jan 21 1988 16:3617
Micro-balloons are a component of stira-foam.  As the previous noter
indicated, you can mix them with the clue of your choice to produce
a filler.  However, I would NEVER use such filler.  When mixed with
epoxy, the stuff is as tuff as bullets, and consequently, VERY difficult 
to sand.  When used to fill balsa, the results are nothing short of 
TERRIBLE.  Why don't you try Micro-Fill by Northeast aerodynamics, or 
[I believe] Magic-Fill.  This stuff is a white material with a "fluffy"
consistency.  It dries "stiff" and is a "joy" to sand... sands just like
balsa.  Once you try it, you'll never anything but.  

A word of caution... DO NOT use micro-balloons and Epoxy on balsa!

Good luck,

Brian
                                                              
442.4BSS::TAVARESJohn--Stay low, keep movingThu Jan 21 1988 16:4118
Microballoons are tiny beads of glass, so fine that they look and
handle like powder.  They are used as a thickening agent in
fiberglass resin, such as when mixing a gel coat, and for general
useage as a filler.  The spackling compound consists of an
base material, acrylic, I believe, similar to very thick white
paint, with microballoons (blast it, I cannot spell that word!)
to take it to the consistency of a filler.

I like to take the mixture and thin it with water back down to a
thick liquid, then apply it over bare balsa with an artist's
knife.  When sanded, it produces a very smooth surface for paint. 

The spackling is cheap.  I'm still working off a can of Model
Magic filler that I paid 3-something for, before I opened the can
and found out what it really was.  

One of those miracles of modern life...we used to use cornstarch
in dope.  Very heady to say the least.
442.5BALLOONS HAVE A VERY DEFINITE PLACE......GHANI::CASEYATHE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8)Thu Jan 21 1988 17:4234
    As John already explained, micro-balloons are extremely fine beads
    of actual glass, not styrofoam.  As Brian [I think} mentioned, if
    not mixed properly, especially with epoxy, the stuff can be miserable
    to sand but, like nearly everything else, if properly used in the
    right applications, micro-balloons are a real godsend!
    
    The first thing to bear in mins is that, unless you intend to use
    the mixture internally [where no sanding will ne required], do not
    mix balloons with epoxy adhesives, i.e. 5-min, 30-min. epoxy, etc.
    Balloons should only be mixed with polyester or epoxy resins if
    the mixture is to be used externally and sanding will be required.
    
    I like to use polyester-resin/balloons for such things as small
    fillets around stab and rudder, fairing in canopies, building up
    fairing panels etc.  I mix the stuff "extremely" dry; lots of balloons
    to just a little resin and the stuff sands very easily, can be carved
    with a knife or shaped with a file.  BTW, mix the resin/balloons
    "BEFORE" adding the catylist...then, as you need it, take a little
    of the mixture and catylize with the smallest single drop you can
    manage and apply to the intended area. smoothing it with a dampened
    finger or equivalent.  On the MiG-3, the panel fairings around the
    stab-to-fuse juncture, the gun tunnels and the canopy framing adjacent
    to the fuse are all done with balloons and the effect is quite realistic.
    
    I don't recommend balloons as a balsa filler though I know of some
    modelers who use it this way and swear by it.  My buddy, Ted White,
    applies .6-oz. glass cloth [Dan Parsons', of course] with K&B clear
    epoxy, then after a second coat of clear, he applies a slurry of
    K&B epoxy primer and micro-balloons.  After sanding the slurry down
    nearly all the way to the cloth, he's ready to paint.  I may try
    this technique myself but, `til I do, I can't honestly recommend
    it.                                                                      
    
    Adios,	Al
442.6Microballoons and CA glue- made in heaven!CTHULU::YERAZUNISExit left to FunwayFri Jan 22 1988 10:0413
    Microballoons are also an incredibly fast strength-filleting system.
    
    Finger-pack DRY microballoons into the joint, smoothing them with
    your finger.  Then get back a bit and hit the joint with a drop
    or two of CA glue.  The glue will "hit" almost instantly, and you
    have a very strong (but mildly ugly) fillet.  
    
    Microballoons are a lot lighter to use than _my_ moral equivalent,
    Baking Soda!                                
    
    (I thought microballoons were hollow, not solid beads ??  Anybody
    got a microscope and a hammer? )