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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
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Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

70.0. "Canopies and monokote... How do?" by LEDS::ZAYAS () Tue Feb 24 1987 20:13

    	Got a question for you expert modelers.  How do you make a
    canopy look nice over monokote?  I've got a box fuse (sanded to
    make it more round and presentable) that I want to monokote.
    To make the plane a bit more `realistic', I've got a plastic
    canopy I want to have sit on the slab-top fuse.
    
    	Now, with paint, you can do a nice fillet with epox-o-lite,
    fill, sand, paint, and it blends very nicely to the surrounding
    painted surface.
    
    	How do you get anywhere this nice a result with the plastic
    wrap coverings?  Ideas?
    
    	Thanks.
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70.1same thing but differentHPSCAD::WFIELDThu Feb 26 1987 13:2711
    You can still make a fillet the same as you would if you
    were going to paint. monokote will work into fillets pretty
    well with the proper tools and a little practice. One of
    the small monokote trim irons with a rounded tip really helps
    alot in working around fillets. Monokote is more than just
    a quick covering job, just about anything that can be done
    with paint can be done with monokote once you have a little
    experience.
    
    Wayne
    
70.2What sticks to what?TALLIS::FISHERKay R. FisherThu Feb 26 1987 13:5213
Maybe that is a good answer and I misunderstood the question.
So here's my version of the question.

How do you stick the canopy and form a fillet when the fuselage
is already Monokoted.  What do you glue plastic canopies to Monokote with
and what material do you use to create the fillet?

              _!_
Bye        ----O----
Kay R. Fisher / \
 
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70.3A Canopy fixing method.NOGOV::BODDINGTONAndrew Boddington, RE02 F/M8, 830-4557Fri Feb 27 1987 09:3311
    In my experience canopies do not adhere to any plastic film covering,
    no matter what adhesive you use. I always trim the canopy until
    it fits the fuse' shape, and then position the canopy in place.
    Draw round the edge of the canopy onto the film with a chinagraph
    pencil. You can then remove the film where the canopy is to be glued
    and use epoxy to hold the thing together. 
    
    While you are doing this you can add a little cockpit detail or
    a pilot for greater realism.
    
    			Andrew.
70.4SPKALI::THOMASFri Feb 27 1987 11:069
    
    	There is a glue that is specificly formulated for canopies.
    I don't remember the exact name but it is "(something) 56". I
    think that with this general description most any hobby store
    could get you the right glue. I have used it on fiberglass,
    monocate and ARF plastic. Never had a problem with it. It comes
    out cloudy and when it dries it becomes clear.
    
    					Tom
70.5RC 56 - Where do you get it?TALLIS::FISHERKay R. FisherFri Feb 27 1987 11:4523
>    	There is a glue that is specificly formulated for canopies.
>    I don't remember the exact name but it is "(something) 56". I
>    think that with this general description most any hobby store
>    could get you the right glue. I have used it on fiberglass,
>    monocate and ARF plastic. Never had a problem with it. It comes
>    out cloudy and when it dries it becomes clear.
>    
>    					Tom

My Black Baron Special calls for RC 56 glue to put the plastic pieces
onto the wood.  I asked Ernie at McManus Hobby and he never heard of it.
He suggested contact cement.  I tried that - didn't work.  Does anybody
know if Tom's hobby in Chelmsford has it?  Maybe when my plastic pieces
fall off I'll put them on right the next time.  Anyway - I'll have more
canopies to do in the future and it sure would be lots easier not to have
to cut thru the Monokote.

              _!_
Bye        ----O----
Kay R. Fisher / \
 
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70.6Call to find outSPKALI::THOMASFri Feb 27 1987 12:525
    
    I'm almost sure that Tom's would have it. He has on of just about
    everything else.
    
    					Tom
70.7RC 56 glue - no longer made...TALLIS::FISHERKay R. FisherFri Feb 27 1987 15:2615
>    I'm almost sure that Tom's would have it. He has on of just about
>    everything else.
>    
>    					Tom

I just called Toms.  Whoever answered the phone said that RC 56 glue was
not made any more.  They said they stock Franklin's "Home shop & craft glue".
and they claim it is the same functionally.

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Bye        ----O----
Kay R. Fisher / \
 
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70.8Clarify .1 pleaseLEDS::ZAYASFri Feb 27 1987 18:2214
    re: .1
    
    Fine, I understand.  Problem I have is the order of things...
    
    Do you suggest I fillet first and then cover?  Or cover the fuse,
    remove the monokote under the canopy only and then fillet around
    it?  In this case, I'll have fillet over monokote which will allow
    sepage.  Or do you add trim strips of monokote over the fillet and
    onto the surrounding area?  The idea of a covering seam around the
    canopy didn't strike me as very attractive.
    
    Anyway, a step-by-step sequence would be appreciated.
    
    Thanks!
70.9let me explainHPSCAD::WFIELDFri Mar 06 1987 13:0320
    Let me try to explain what I do when I monokote a plane with a bubble
    canopy, maybe this will make what I said in an earlier reply more
    clear. Once the fuse is all sanded I mark off where the canopy is
    going to be then I generaly paint the area that is going to be under
    the canopy with flat black paint or what ever kind of detail is
    desired. Next I glue the canopy in place. For this I use R/C
    56 or CYA ( I think I recently saw R/C 56 at fisher R/C in framingham
    MA but I am not sure it is still made). Next I add the fillet
    which is made from SIG something or other (epoxolite?). Once
    this is all done then I monokote using one of the small trim irons
    with the curved tip to work the covering into the fillet. Be careful
    not to melt the canopy with the hot iron! I usually let the covering
    lap up onto canopy about 1/32". If you don't like the above
    proceedure then just cover the fuse without the canopy in place
    then carefully trim the outline of the canopy out of the monokote
    and glue in place with CYA, don't bother with a fillet.
    
    Hope this helps
    Wayne
    
70.10Thank you, thank you, thank youJAKE::ZAYASFri Mar 06 1987 13:425
    
    	Ahhh, thank you.  I always appreciate a response tailored to
    my speed of thought.
    
    	Will give it a try!  Let you know how it works out.