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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

846.0. "Stereo Radio & Speaker Installation" by GOLF::WILSON (Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure) Thu May 30 1991 17:18

    Moved by moderator.  This deserves its own seperate topic.  I
    think this was discussed before, but I can't find it.  Sooo,
    this is the new stereo radio topic...
    
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Note 425.7                         HELP NEEDED                            7 of 9
RAVEN1::B_ADAMS "Dover and over and over!"           14 lines  29-MAY-1991 22:08
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    Help needed...

    	I want to install a Radio/Cass under the dash of my boat.
    Should/Would it be better to place the radio under the dash near the
    driver or under the "glove compartment"?.  Where would I run
    speaker wire to/from..under/around the inside of the boat?  

    	one more thing...Are there any "waterproof" speakers available?
	and how much do they cost?
    
    Thanks...

    B.A.
        
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846.1GOLF::WILSONBill and Ted&#039;s Excellent AdventureThu May 30 1991 17:2021
    moved by moderator...
    
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Note 425.8                         HELP NEEDED                            8 of 9
RAVEN1::GHOOPER "I am not a MERRY man!"              14 lines  29-MAY-1991 23:17
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    Hey, B.A.!
    
    	I've got a factory set-up sound-system in mine, but Infinity
    poly-pro speakers (5"-6" dia.) would work great. I don't know what you
    would do about an antenna; mine's just a cable coiled up under the
    dash.
    
    	Check with the Music Machine; they should have some good prices on
    Infinity speakers. As far as speaker wire, you can just about run it
    anywhere inside the boat; just keep it out of the way where it won't
    get yanked on.
    
    	Can't wait to see this boat!
    		-Hoop-                      
846.2RAVEN1::B_ADAMSDover and over and over!Thu May 30 1991 19:169
    Thanks Hoop..
    
    	I'll check around.  Shouldn't be hard at all. I was just wondering
    where the wires in most boats were located.
    
    Later,
    
    B.A.
    
846.3Speakers$60/pr...Radio$120+/SALEM::JUNGFri May 31 1991 17:299
    In my Starcraft the wires are up under the gunwales. I upgraded
    my stereo too. The speakers I used are Minimus 7's from Radio
    Shack. I have them mounted under the dash. The radio is mounted
    in the glove compartment. The only way I could get water damage
    is if it sank. The whole set-up cost about $150. Thats 12 watts
    per channel...sounds good.
    
                                        Jeff (Captain)
                                        Team Starcraft
846.4Am/Fm radiosGOLF::WILSONTue Mar 31 1992 09:5519
    Moved by mod.  Also see note 370.
    
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Note 959.0                        Am/Fm radios                        No replies
TPSYS::SOBECKY "Today is the tomorrow you worried a" 13 lines  30-MAR-1992 21:33
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    	I have a question regarding AM/FM radios on a boat. The answer
    	may seem obvious to many of you, but it's got me thinking...
    
    	I want to install an AM/FM radio in my boat. Are there any
    	special considerations that I need to remember regarding the
    	antenna? Will the grounding of the antenna through the radio
    	chassis be sufficient to guarantee good reception?
    
    	Remember, my experience has been limited to car radios..
    
    	Thanks,
    	John
846.5Use a wire insteadSUBSYS::CHESTERTue Mar 31 1992 13:3711
    Try this first before installing an ant.  Just staple a piece of wire from
    the ant jack to the inside of the boat.  About 3 to 4 ft long. 
    Verticial is better but not required.  Assumes a fiber glass boat.  You
    can buy the male connector end at Radio Shack or You Do it.  Solder the
    wire into the connector and plug it in.
    
    Advantages.  Out of sight.  Will not be broken, will not leak.
    For all but offshore recption the ground through the return lead
    will work fine.
    
    Ken Chester
846.6The frame of the windshield?BROKE::TAYLORThe tie goes to the 18-wheelerWed Apr 01 1992 11:167
    re:- John,
    
    If you can, try using the metal frame of the windshield, by wiring to
    an anchoring screw under the dash, that holds the windhsield on. That's
    what Four Winns does. 
    
    Mike
846.7Will tryTPS::SOBECKYToday is the tomorrow you worried about yesterdayMon Apr 06 1992 10:304
    
    	Thanks..I'll give the last two ideas a try.
    
    	John
846.8New Car AntennaFASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameMon Jun 01 1992 00:563
    The previous owner of the boat I just purchased used one of those newer
    Stainless Steel rigit attennas such as on stock Chevys & Fords. Mounted
    on the gunnel and no corrosion visible.
846.9basic installation questionBUSY::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaFri Jun 18 1993 14:1013
    Basic installation questions?
    
    I have installed many car radios, but this is my first time at being a
    boat owner.  The boat is an older 1965 fiberglass 14.5' Starcraft
    Runabout with only an ignition key and an electronic choke switch that
    does not work.  There is also a light switch somewhere near the drivers
    seat (can;t recall if it is in the dash or not).
    
    Should I run a stereo's power and ground wires directly to the battery,
    or can I hook them into some other component?
    I assume the power line should be fused, what fuse rating?
    
    Thanks, Mark
846.10try this....USCTR1::BORZUMATOFri Jun 18 1993 14:3117
    
    Running back to the battery for appliances is a pain>
    
    I would install a bus bar under the console, and run from
    
    there (of course fused) to the appliance. Kinda eliminates
    
    the "rats nest effect"
    
    
    As for the fuse, need to know what it draws for watts or amps.
    
    Rule of thumb is 120% of what it draws for a fuse. ex. 
    
    If it draws 5 amps between 6 & 7.5 would be sufficient.
    
    JIm
846.11Rather easyGUCCI::HERBAl is the *first* nameSat Jun 19 1993 10:395
    You should be able to find a power lead to your ignition switch with a
    tester. Quite possible though that there's no ground wire going to the
    dash so that may have to be run to the dash. Generally, you want power
    full time to the radio if it has electronic station re-sets and a
    clock.
846.12Found a bus barBUSY::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon Jun 21 1993 10:0723
    Thanks for the helpful replies.  This weekend I crawled under the dash
    and found a bus bar, however there was no voltage going to it.  Traced
    all the wiring...  There is a 3 lead wire running from back to front
    which serves 2 purposes, feed the bus bar and control the bow and back
    lights from the dash light switch.  The power lead had a couple of
    small leads pig tailed together coming out of the battery + side. 
    There was 12 volts at the battery terminal and 7 volts 3" out on the
    first lead.  Corroded wire = much resistance.  I put in a new wire and
    new connectors to battery + and - and I now had 12 volts at the bus
    under the dash, plus a working bow light.  Still no working back light,
    but I ran out of time to trace that problem.  The lead coming out of
    the battery + is fused with a 10 amp (I think 32 volt) fuse.  So now I
    should be able to power a stereo under the bow.  Once I determine the
    best way to install it.  I'm thinking a cheapo am/fm stereo radio with
    no digital clock or tuner to avoid the constant draw from the battery.
    There is no glove box and I don;t think I want to cut a hole in the
    dash, so I may try to install it behind the dash with a couple of
    speakers under the bow.  I am thinking of using a small cheapo factory
    foreign car radio like one out of an old Subaru.  Speakers are a tough
    decision, as small cheap spkrs sound lousy...
    
    To be continued.  Thanks, Mark