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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

494.0. "RUMORS" by ULTRA::BURGESS () Mon Aug 28 1989 13:00

	Its time we had a rumor topic.  I mean a FORMAL RUMOR TOPIC, in 
addition to the rumors that creep into other topics.

	I'll go first, of course, since it is my idea - see .1

	Reg

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494.1No; not *_ME_* !ULTRA::BURGESSMon Aug 28 1989 13:038
	A certain member of this conference is selling their current 
boat  NOW !  and will be buying a much bigger and more powerful boat  
SOOOON  in readyness for next season.   Clue; its a 3 or 4 year old 
boat.

	R

494.2Is his initials "R" ?TAZRAT::WHYNOTMon Aug 28 1989 13:065
    So Reg, what are you asking for your Stingray, and is the Malibu
    Skier gonna have a 350 or a 454??
    :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)
    Doug
    (Am I close?)
494.3Who is it?ARCHER::SUTERGentlemen, start your *marine* engines!Mon Aug 28 1989 13:445
    
    	My guess is that the MC dealer must not have wanted the
    Whaler in trade!!!!
    
    Rick
494.4Count me in!NRADM::WILSONSouthern NH, The Mass. MiracleMon Aug 28 1989 14:116
    
    Wouldn't the list be shorter if we tried to figure out which of
    us does *NOT* want a bigger and faster boat for next season?!
    
    Rick W. (Who has "bigger-boat-itis" after only 4 months with the
             '89 Sunbird)
494.5Its yours!DONVAN::DECAROLISThe Open has openedMon Aug 28 1989 17:496
    
    Rumor has it that the author of this note wants to buy my
    boat!  (see note 3.389)
    
    jd/
    
494.6Big vs Slip Cost ( Yuk!)PACKER::GIBSONI'm the NRATue Aug 29 1989 09:549
    We all know that Reg. Really wants a 350 inboard. But can he handle it?
    
    Anybody want to swap an Albin 43 for an Alura 30????? I'll throw in the 
    dingy.
    
    Just wishful thinking!
    
                                      Walt
    
494.7Let Mikey try it!ARCHER::SUTERGentlemen, start your *marine* engines!Tue Aug 29 1989 11:146
    
    	I heard that Brunswick Corp has purchased Baja Boats and the new
    product, called Bajliner, will be available in only two colors;
    blue and maroon......
    
    Sign this? Not me!
494.8Rumor Roundup - Almost Correct..ASPEN2::MATCOTue Aug 29 1989 12:2610
	Yes I too heard that same rumor, but you were 1 off on your offset - 
	the initials were CC not BB..

	"Brunswick - On The Waters Of The World Since 1989..?"

	If you've heard a good one lately..write here to the Rumor Hotline and
	the worlds best-read Boating rumor mug can be yours..

						        Charlie Matco
494.9Sink or swim!KAHALA::SUTERWe dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)Thu May 16 1991 15:1011
    
    We haven't had any rumors since August of 1989!
    
    	I heard a rumor that a petite brown boat was found out on
    some body of water without a plug in it. When this was discovered
    a passenger in that boat jumped out and stuck their thumb in the
    drain hole then footed back to the beach being towed only by his
    thumb!
    
    	Is this true?
    
494.10Freeze! Hands above your head!KAHALA::SUTERWe dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)Thu May 16 1991 15:1611
    
    	I heard YAR (Yet another rumor) that a very nice boat
    with a blue stripe was stolen from the beach on the Merrimack
    River, since the owner had left the keys in it and then the
    boat thief proceeded to drive the boat over various rocks
    and other water hazards doing considerable damage to the underwater
    gear. A chase by the Marine patrol began on the water and ended
    with land,water and air support.
    
    	Did anyone see any futher info on this in the newspaper?
    
494.11Ugly roomers and uglie rumors.ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterThu May 16 1991 15:5126
re .9

	Sounds like another  "thumb in the dyke"  story t' me;  which
BTW, most Dutch people claim to have never heard in Holland.  
YAUSULAFL {yet another US urban legend about foreign lands}

.10

	Not in this space/time continuum - musta bin in the tardis.

.11

	Right here; this is a fresh rumor.     

A member of our conference recently visited the RW shop in Brookline NH 
to enquire about the feasibility of repairing a parasail (separate 
rumors are going around about how it got damaged).  On browsing 
through the various literature and flyers(pun) that were laid out as 
sales aids, our member was shocked to learn that there is an upper age
limit for sky-diving stoodents  - -  shocked beyond belief, coz he
REALLY doesn't think of himself as being too old for such new and
exciting ways to get hurt. 

	R {LI}


494.12Drain plug not necessaryDNEAST::OKERHOLM_PAUTue May 21 1991 13:015
    Re .9>	Could be but probably wasn't necessary. A boat will 
    drain while on plane and I doubt if you could foot below planing
    speeds.
    
    Paul
494.13KAHALA::SUTERWe dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)Mon Jun 03 1991 13:538
    
    
    
    	I heard a rumor that a blue Nautique which is parked at PKO
    might arrive at Mattawanakee around 4:30, today!
    
    
    
494.14TSGDEV::WILSONMon Jun 03 1991 14:344
    I think I saw it.  Couldn't figure out who owned it, as it was parked
    so far away from the office of a known Nautique owner, but then again
    it is parked pretty far away from the known Nautique owner's boss also.
    
494.15I wonder who's it is ???ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterMon Jun 03 1991 14:489
re .13
	Yah, but will it get launched ?


	Or will it just get stuck in the dirt ?


	R

494.16Fact or Fiction?KAHALA::SUTERWe dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)Wed Jun 19 1991 10:4013
    	When passing by the "newsrack" in the supermarket last night
    I noticed an article in a reputable paper which stated that a
    weekend party was going to occur the first weekend in August at
    some lake on the Maine/NH border.  It went on to say that all the
    people from something called "boats.note" were invited. (Whatever
    the hell that is!)

    	Has anyone heard of this? Has anyone tentatively marked their
    calendars? I'll try and get more detail on this this weekend and
    determine if it's actually true....

    Rick
494.17I musta read that same paper!ROGER::GAUDETNothing unreal existsWed Jun 19 1991 14:5812
Gee Rick, had I continued to read I probably would have come across that
article.  I noticed in that same paper that there's a water ski show happening
in R.I. the weekend before (Sunday, July 28th).  The article went on to say the
same thing as yours, that everyone from this "boats.note" thing was invited, and
that there may even be someone participating in this show that is also a member
of said "boats.note."  No other details were given, except that directions to
the show's location would be forthcoming in a future article.

Should this rumor turn out to be factual, I will endeavor to contact the author
for further details.

...Roger...
494.18decisions, decisions!KAHALA::SUTERWe dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)Wed Jun 19 1991 15:128
    
    	Gee, now that's a tough decision! A ski show advertised in the Star
    or Cypress Gardens skiers on the river in Lowell.... I might have to
    stay in Lowell because along with missing the the skiers, I'd also
    miss the pig races!
    
    Rick
    
494.19I'll take "Lucky" in the 7thGOLF::WILSONThis area closed for renovationWed Jun 19 1991 15:4215
>> I'd also miss the pig races!
    
Now now Rick, you leave those poor girls alone, they're just trying
to make an honest living!    8^)

Since I only buy "legitimate" newspapers, i.e.  my Globe has "Boston" in
front of it, I don't know what the heck you guys are talking about!  Let's 
have some details.  I'll be up at Lake Winnie the first weekend in August 
and could possibly mosey on over to a particular lake near the ME/NH border.

To add to the rumor mill, I heard a rumor that there could be a LYSB (Little
Yellow Speed Boat) in the back of my truck at the next gumball if the owner 
(me) can find enough time to finish it before summer's over!

Rick
494.20Oink Oink!KAHALA::SUTERWe dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)Wed Jun 19 1991 16:069
    
    Sorry Rick, but the "pig races" aren't held on Market street (for those
    who know Lowell).....
    
    And I hate to tell you this but you better go home right now and start
    working on that LYSB as the "next" Gumball is tomorrow!
    
    Rick
    
494.21I think I left it ummmm, lessee now..... somewhere,,,ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterMon Jun 24 1991 11:128
	I heard on the radio this morning that too much water skiing 
can lead to short term memory loss.  Just little things, like losing
car keys, coffee mugs, sweat pants, etc.  The researcher seemed to 
believe it had something to do with taking a lot of hard falls.....

	Reg

494.22I forget about working tooDECXPS::JEGREENMoney talks, mine says GOODBYEMon Jun 24 1991 13:208
    I'd have to agree, but I'd blame deepwater barefoot starts for my
    amnesia. I had completely forgotten that I had forgotten my sweat
    pants.
    
    Does this mean that we have to plan to meet sometime now to reclaim my
    belonging ?
    
    ~jeff_whose_ego_isn't_as_bruised_as_his_backside
494.23KAHALA::SUTERWe dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)Mon Jun 24 1991 14:259
    
    Ahhhh.... did someone say "Backwards barefootin'"?........??
    
    Keys were found and fortunately I have other coffee cups and the one
    left behind is pretty clearly mine, huh?
    
    Now back to the program already in progress.... :-)
    
    
494.24Where?RAVEN1::B_ADAMSGoing on a beach trip!Mon Jun 24 1991 19:056
    .21�can lead to short term memory loss.  Just little things, like losing
    
    	What?  What skiing!  :*)
    
    B.A.
    
494.25On a small local puddle near here.ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterThu Jun 27 1991 12:5614
	OK,  here's a hot one:

	According to rumor control central a slalom course was being
installed on a local body of water yesterday.   "One of those with
white plastic plumbing pipe"  was part of the description.  Errr, I 
forget where it was  (-:, (-:  - -  somewhere in the greater Maynard
area....   Oh, the guys with a Ski Challenger, that's them.

	Reg

{short term memory WHAT ?}


494.26Sir...could you expand (or expound) upon that?ROGER::GAUDETNothing unreal existsThu Jun 27 1991 13:174
Do tell us of that which you speak ... uh, that of which you speak ... err, what
the hell are you talkin' about?  :-)

...Roger...
494.27Small Pond + Ski Challenger ==> Lake Boon ???ROCK::SMITHThu Jun 27 1991 14:2123
    
    Reg,
    
    "Small local puddle" , "Ski Challenger".   You MUST be talking
    about Lake Boon.   I had heard these guys we going to try to put
    up a course.  I know of MANY people who have tried there before
    only to be refused by the Lake Assoc.  I do not know if these guys
    went the official route or not. (i.e. put it up and see if any
    complains)   One problem that has always been there in the small basin
    is the backwash you get off of ALL the walls in that basin.
    
    I hope that they do pull it off.  It is always nice to see more 
    courses going up.   Maybe if they use sub-bouys and disconnect the
    turn and boat bouys when thay are not using it they can get away with
    it.  A guy who used to ski in our club lived on a real small lake
    and he would litterly drop the course to the bottom when he was done
    then just pick it up and attach the bouys the next day.  He got pretty
    good at it. I think it only took him about 15-20 minutes to get it all
    up and floating and it saved him many hassels with him
    neighbors/fishermen.
    
    Mike
    
494.28Its a course; of course its a course.ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterFri Jun 28 1991 16:2417
re                        <<< Note 494.27 by ROCK::SMITH >>>
>               -< Small Pond + Ski Challenger ==> Lake Boon ??? >-

	Right first time  - -  a prize to Mr Smith.

	Regarding lake associations:  I've heard tell they don't have 
any REAL clout, but its best to be on their right side.


	Part 2:

	Another course is rumored to have been installed  *_TODAY_*  
on a similarly sized body of water some 20 miles farther west - just
off Rte #2 and Rte #70. 

	Reg

494.29This is true....the sickos!DONVAN::DECAROLISSlalom Fever!Wed Jul 10 1991 15:058
    
    They've been catching piranha in the Merrimack River.
    
    I can't wait to ski tonight!  :+)  Who says you can't
    walk on water, watch me if I fall!
    
    jd/
    
494.30KAHALA::SUTERWe dun&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; skis, (sometimes)Wed Jul 10 1991 15:303
    
    Does this indicate that a rumor exists that skiing will take
    place on the river tonite? Hmmmmmm?
494.31sick-O's indeed !DECXPS::JEGREENMoney talks, mine says GOODBYEWed Jul 10 1991 21:5111
    I've heard a couple of pirahna rumors/stories of late.  The last one I
    heard was a few weeks back. Supposedly an 11" pirahna was caught up
    around Manchester NH as it swam up through the fish ladder. If anyone
    knows where the fish ladder is then thats where the pirahna came from.
    The water around the power plant stays close to 70 degrees year round
    so it wouldn't be too hard for a pirahna to weather the winter.  
    
    Sick people indeed. I much prefer the rumor of skiing tonite on the
    river. 
    
    ~jeff
494.32Dum dum .... dum dum ......CSSE32::APRILIf you build it .... he will come !Thu Jul 11 1991 10:3123
>
>    I've heard a couple of pirahna rumors/stories of late.  The last one I
>    heard was a few weeks back. Supposedly an 11" pirahna was caught up
>    around Manchester NH as it swam up through the fish ladder. If anyone
>    knows where the fish ladder is then thats where the pirahna came from.
>    The water around the power plant stays close to 70 degrees year round
>    so it wouldn't be too hard for a pirahna to weather the winter.  
>    
>    Sick people indeed. I much prefer the rumor of skiing tonite on the
>    river. 
 
	Although this is old it *is* true.  Many years ago when I was
	a youngin'  (somewhere around the early 70's) there was a Shark
	that was sighted in the Merrimack River near the then Lowell Tech
	boathouse.  It was caught and was nearly dead anyways.  Speculation
	was that a couple of pranksters caught the critter out on the 
	ocean and dumped it into the River for yucks.  I remember seeing
	pictures in the Lowell Sun and it was a fairly large Shark (maybe
	10-12 feet).

	There are some absolutely *HUGE* Carp in that River.

	Chuck
494.33A second shark in the Merrimack?GEMVAX::HICKSCOURANTThu Jul 11 1991 12:116
    re: .32
    
    Around `77, a Nurse Shark came in with the tide and nearly croaked
    upstream from the brack-effect. They lured back out with chum. 
    
    Is that the incident you were thinking of?
494.34CSSE32::APRILIf you build it .... he will come !Thu Jul 11 1991 12:2111
>    re: .32
>    
>    Around `77, a Nurse Shark came in with the tide and nearly croaked
>    upstream from the brack-effect. They lured back out with chum. 
>    
>    Is that the incident you were thinking of?

	Nope.  This Shark was definately planted in the upper Merrimack
	above the Lowell Dam.

	Chuck
494.35Gettin' spoiled!DONVAN::DECAROLISSlalom Fever!Thu Jul 11 1991 16:1417
    
    Neither sharks or pirahna will keep me out of the river!
    Course, every time I ski there I'm probably taking a
    year or two off my life.  I try not to fall by W.R.GRACE
    or the power lines (which we can hear sizzling).
    
    The river makes for some incredible skiing, the stretch
    from Tyngsboro to Hudson was glass last night.  Now
    I understand why my brother only skiis the river, you
    just can't beat the conditions!  Heck, I didn't even
    complain about the *big* wake last night behind his
    2001.  
               :+)       :+)
    
    Jeanne
    
    
494.36On the other side of the wall there's just more water.ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterFri Jul 12 1991 13:519
	One of our frequent noters has been getting another frequent 
noter to try on  *-JUMP SKIS-*  !!!   and head for the wall.

	TWICE !


	R

494.37Hit it ... the Big Red Wall, that isROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterMon Jul 15 1991 12:419
And tried them he did...as did his son!  What troopers!  I hadn't seen anyone
go inverted in quite some time!  :-)  Too bad it was such a calm day and we
couldn't try the parasail.  Oh well, next time!

Next time, we'll do it *my* way ... go only 1/3 the way up on the first pass,
then work our way to the top.  Ya gotta get the feel of that "sheet o' ice"
called a jump ramp!

...Roger...
494.38Come to the show!ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterMon Jul 15 1991 12:5415
Just got the latest copy of the "Rumor Tribune" ... reply .17 has been
confirmed.  There's a water ski show happening on Sunday, July 28th at 1:30 p.m.
All noters invited.  Location is Johnson's Pond in Coventry, R.I.  Exit 10B off
Rt. 95 south, then about 8 miles west on Rt. 117.  About 1.5 hours from the
Greater Maynard area.  The site is clearly marked.  Good weather has been
ordered for the entire day.  Food and beverages will be available at the show
site.  Respond to the author of this note and he might be able to arrange
private parking and even a ride to the show site via some sort of nautical
vessel.

Look for the idiot on the beach donning a well-padded outfit which will require
him to perform ridiculous antics while being towed at high speeds across the
water.  :-)

...Roger...
494.39Ski show July 28th ...ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterTue Jul 16 1991 14:4314
Norm (712.11) asked about bringing his boat to the ski show in R.I.  The answer
is "sure" as long as I don't have too many people doing it.  Since Norm's the
first, he gets the first spot should he decide to come.  I can probably
accomodate 3 or 4 vehicle/trailer combinations, beyond which parking space will
get a little tight.  'Course, there'll be plenty of boats by then, so just come
down and jump in one of 'em!  :-)  There will be plenty of places to tie up at
the show site.

We should probably take this offline, so I'll generate a distribution list of
(potentially) interested parties and continue the discussion there.  Feel free
to send me mail at the above address if you want more details and/or you're
interested in coming down on July 28th!

...Roger...
494.40No damage...GOLF::WILSONThis area closed for renovationSun Aug 04 1991 13:379
    
    Rumor has it, that in a high speed death defying maneuver,
    one of the boating moderators may have flipped another 
    moderator's hydroplane.  This incident is alledged to have
    occured at Province Lake on Saturday, August 3rd.
    
    Initial reports say that there were no serious personal
    injuries, and after some drying out the boat was running
    again before the day was over.
494.41Keep the yellah side up, will Ya ?ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterMon Aug 05 1991 12:1810
re       <<< Note 494.40 by GOLF::WILSON "This area closed for renovation" >>>
>                               -< No damage... >-

	Later reports indicate that the owner of the hydro-, after 
administering CPR to his beloved boat,  allowed 2 minors to experiment 
with his craft on the same body of water.  No further mishaps were 
reported to our observer, who kept close watch from a pick up boat.

	Reg

494.42Directions from the land down under?DECXPS::JEGREENMoney talks, mine says GOODBYEMon Aug 05 1991 12:5211
>Note 494.41                          RUMORS                             41 of 41
>ULTRA::BURGESS "Mad Man across the water"            10 lines   5-AUG-1991 11:18
>                    -< Keep the yellah side up, will Ya ? >-

    
    Ah ha ! So you're the one that gave him the upside-down directions. The
    pretty yellow side is suppose to be in the water. The pretty wood side
    with the hole for the driver is suppose to be on top.
    
    ~jeff

494.43OK, "Yeller side down"ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterMon Aug 05 1991 13:1422
re      <<< Note 494.42 by DECXPS::JEGREEN "Money talks, mine says GOODBYE" >>>
>                   -< Directions from the land down under? >-

    
>    Ah ha ! So you're the one that gave him the upside-down directions. The
>    pretty yellow side is suppose to be in the water. The pretty wood side
>    with the hole for the driver is suppose to be on top.

	Lessee,  "Keep the shiney side up"   Yep.

	Ahhh, but both sides are shiney.

	"Keep the wood grain finished shiney side up"   Nah, too long.


	Howabout;

		"Keep the hole for the driver up"

	or

		"Keep the driver's hole up"   ?
494.44same wording, different meaningBOSOX::JEGREENMoney talks, mine says GOODBYEMon Aug 05 1991 16:0715
>	Howabout;
>
>		"Keep the hole for the driver up"
>
>	or
>
>		"Keep the driver's hole up"   ?
    
    Hmm, I suspect that the driver's hole was 'up' when it should have been
    down and there lies the problem. On the other hand the hole for the 
    driver should be up at all times regardless of where the driver's hole
    is. :^)
    
    ~jeff

494.45What's up???KAHALA::SUTERWe dun&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; skis, (sometimes)Tue Aug 06 1991 15:499
    
    Yup, I heard that the driver's hole was up and was in use at the moment
    (if you catch my drift).........
    
    I'm glad the driver of that overturned craft didn't hurt the cute
    little yellow machine and rumor has it that the driver might be
    interested in cutting up some of his or her own plywood this winter.
    
    
494.46"their" is usually safer than "his or her"ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterThu Aug 08 1991 12:2115
re <<< Note 494.45 by KAHALA::SUTER "We dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)" >>>
>                               -< What's up??? >-
    
    interested in cutting up some of his or her own plywood this winter.
				     __________

		Errr,  is there some doubt as to the gender of the 
person contemplating the cutting up of plywood ?
    

	EEEeeekkk !   Not  MORE  skill saw jokes   PLEASE !

	R


494.47Who 'sat?KAHALA::SUTERWe dun&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; skis, (sometimes)Thu Aug 29 1991 14:3513
    
    Rumor has it that YABN (Yet another blue Nautique) managed to find some
    rocks on the Merrimack River, while being driven by someone other
    than the registered owner (Sound familiar?)... Fortunately, this
    Nautique was idling along rather than moving at skiing speed.
    
    It's further reported that the owner has removed the 1 bent stabilizer
    fin and thru the graciousness of a friend has placed that friend's
    spare 14X14 prop in place of the 13X13 and is ready for more abuse
    tonight...
    
    We'll provide details as they become available......
    
494.48Inboard,H2O,Skiers.......?KAHALA::SUTERWe dun&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; skis, (sometimes)Wed Oct 02 1991 11:455
    
    I heard a rumor that a Gumball may take place on the Merrimack
    this afternoon. Any truth to this rumor?
    
    Rick
494.49End of season buying spreesULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterWed Oct 09 1991 11:5513
	There's a rumor circulating about an outbreak of "mystery toy"
buying.  Supposedly it has hit the Greater Maynard Area pretty hard
in the last couple of weeks, most notably around Hudson and Lowell, 
we're watching the Grafton and Nashua areas at this hour.  

It's quite easy to recognize, afflicted individuals will drop hints 
that they have a new toy, but won't disclose what it is  - -  you only 
get to find out by seeing it, and you're only allowed to see it on the 
condition that you try it.

	Reg	{UPS has a package for someone right NOW !}

494.501992, the Year of the Tournament BoatDONVAN::DECAROLISNo ProblemoMon Jan 06 1992 09:489
    
    Am I going to be the only Baja owner left in this notes file?!  :>)
    Has yet another Baja owner in this notes file, gone done and traded
    his Baja in for one of those tournament type boats?  
    
    Do tell Jeff, do tell!
    
    Jeanne
    
494.51You won't be aloneGOLF::WILSONMon Jan 06 1992 10:042
    RE: .50
    Don't forget Mike B.!
494.52Three, maybe more ?ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterMon Jan 06 1992 10:296
re .51(re .50)

	or Mike S.!

	Reg

494.53Thinking about it..CSLALL::JEGREENCuz I luv that [icy] dirty waterMon Jan 06 1992 10:3025
    re .50
    
    ...so far I'm still looking, and looking, and looking, but I really
    *wanna* get one this year. Can't justify the cost of a new one although
    some private parties want darn close to the price of new. Assuming
    reduced interest rates on new versus used, new may be competitive. I've
    found a couple of leftover 91's for under $17K. I've seen some 3 year
    old boats that people still want $13K+ for.  
    
    I see a lot of non-Nautiques and non-Mastercrafts for sale. Seems like
    the average recreational skier buys a new toy then bails out 2 years
    later. Don't see many, if any Nautiques or MC 190's. I've heard of, or
    read of mostly Ski Centurions. Found a 89 Ski Supreme that looks 
    interesting although I've heard they have a bit of a rooster tail at 15' 
    off. The place I bought my Baja from is willing to take it back in
    trade if I want a Sumpreme. I could do a Supreme. :^) There are a
    couple of Malibu's available on consignment. There is a lot out there if
    one know's what one wants.
    
    ~jeff
    
    Hey, the days are getting longer !! Won't be long now. :^)  
    
    
    
494.54Those Mastercrafts are pretty nice! :>)DONVAN::DECAROLISNo ProblemoMon Jan 06 1992 13:0519
    Jeff,

    I almost went that route, trade in the Baja on a Supreme,
    because the dealer sells both boats and would give me good
    $$$ on a trade-in.  As of lately however, I've decided to
    hold onto the Baja, because this seems to be the year to
    buy a house, preferably on a lake, and then offer my dock
    to somebody with a tournament boat.  :>)
    
    I know of a 1987 Mastercraft for sale, for $15,5 if you're
    interested.  Very well maintained and not hardly used in
    the last two years.  This is a private sale, you might be
    able to talk him down some.
    
    Keep looking, wheelin' and dealin', you've got a few weeks
    left before it's time to ski the Merrimack!
    
    Jeanne
    
494.55used boats not always a bargainCSLALL::JEGREENCuz I luv that [icy] dirty waterMon Jan 06 1992 13:3816
    Yowzha! $15.5 for an '87 ! Valley Marina can put me in a leftover
    1991 Mailbu Euro F3, 4 hours on the meter, loaded with everything 
    including power seat for $16.9K including trailer and cover, and 
    *guaranteed*.  
    
    I've found a couple of used boats that were bought with 6-10 year RV
    loans. After 2-3 years they loose interest in the boat and try to sell
    it only to discover they haven't touched the principal balance! Hence
    the high asking price for a lot of the used boats. 
    
    Looking is half the fun, although demo'ing this time of year is tough.
    I'm in no hurry. We have head_count_reductions starting here next week.
    Would be a bummer having a fancy ski without gainful employment. :^(
    
    ~jeff
                                                       
494.56Supreme is great at 15 off.COMET::KLEINMMon Jan 06 1992 16:5411
    re:: to the guy sorta interested in a Supreme.
    
    I have skied with a coupla guys with Supremes and the wakes impress me.
    I did'nt find any rooster tail problem at 15 off. The wakes were small
    and very soft. It has a turbulent table though at barefooting speeds.
    I also thought it was an excellant trick boat,table only slightly
    dished.
    
    hope that helps some,
    
    matt
494.57We still have our Baja'sSTAR::BOIKOVMS Performance Group - ZKO3/4Fri Jan 17 1992 15:515
    re .50
    
    How quickly they forget....right Mike S.
    
    				- Dr Baja -
494.58KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Fri Jan 17 1992 16:393
    
    
    	Dr Who?
494.59QETOO::WHYNOTMalibu SkierMon Mar 23 1992 19:167
    Rumor (or is that rumour, Reg?) has it that a certain red and black tow
    boat will be getting a new tow vehicle...also in the colors (colours?)
    of black and red. (gotta match ya' know)  It even has new tyres.  :^)
    
    Source: My bank told me...
    
    Doug
494.60EEEEEasy!KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Tue Mar 24 1992 10:217
    
    Hey Doug!
    
    	Youre banke tould youe thate Rege gyt a newe towe vehicel? Howe
    would youre banke knowe?
    
    Ricke - I'm tyred ofe thee colde!
494.61?QETOO::WHYNOTMalibu SkierTue Mar 24 1992 10:302
    Say what?, Did reg get his boat painted red and black??
    
494.62Oh Brian, I get so mixed up with speling (-:ULTRA::BURGESSThe best DOS is DOS_EQUISTue Mar 24 1992 11:4725
re                <<< Note 494.59 by QETOO::WHYNOT "Malibu Skier" >>>

>    Rumor (or is that rumour, Reg?) has it that a certain red and black tow

	Rumor and rumour are SynerGy_stic, I mean  "Synonomous"
(Synonomos ? )  yeah, same thing - -  two countries separated by a
common language. 

>    boat will be getting a new tow vehicle...also in the colors (colours?)
>    of black and red. (gotta match ya' know)  It even has new tyres.  :^)

	Don't get confused by this, the one with the wheel on the
right is the one that should float. 

	Anyone else see the black/red/white rig down at water-skis + 
on saturday morning ?  

>    Source: My bank told me...
 
	Sauce ?
   
>    Doug

	Reg

494.63Not IULTRA::BURGESSThe best DOS is DOS_EQUISTue Mar 24 1992 11:5414
re               <<< Note 494.61 by QETOO::WHYNOT "Malibu Skier" >>>
>                                     -< ? >-

>    Say what?, Did reg get his boat painted red and black??

	No, the red/black/white boat at water skis plus last saturday 
wasn't (& isn't) mine.  It is a barefoot Nautique done in Custom 
colours and the tow truck has been done to match, there is a lot of
detailing IN the truck bed - plexiglass tailgate with the bad boy 
barefooter character on it.   The owner is a sign writer/painter.
Lots of chrome under the (truck's) hood too......

	R

494.64KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Fri Mar 27 1992 14:408
    
    	It's rumored that a certain member of this conference has
    a new water toy bought and paid for at a certain waterski shop,
    awaiting their arrival to be taken home/to the water.
    
    Rick
    
    Gee, who could that be?
494.65Gee,I wonder?COMET::KLEINMNOTHING IS TOO EXTREMEMon Mar 30 1992 18:355
    Hope what ever it is,Rick,that your slalom scores will increase
    at a high rate of Velocity.   :-)
    
    
    matt
494.66Whooooosh Machine seen (-:HYDRA::BURGESSMon May 04 1992 09:0410
	I s'pose  "known facts"  would be in appropriate in this topic ?
So, we'll have to await an official announcement (-:

	Even so, gee, I wish I'd had a camera yesterday... "Teal Appeal"

	Reg

PS	It must be nice to have your initials included in your bow number.

494.67MOTTLE::DECAROLISJeanneMon May 04 1992 09:375
    
    Is somebody in this notesfile "Baja-less"....???  :>)
    
    jd/
    
494.68QETOO::WHYNOTMalibu SkierMon May 04 1992 10:098
    Jeanne,
      Check your dock...I hope it was insured.  :^)
    
    Re: Teal Appeal; (nice name BTW)  Even though Dan Lemieux is a mutual
    aquaintance, it wasn't him that spilled the beans..  ;*)
    (but you didn't hear it from me...either)
    
    Anonymous_(please ignore the above NODE::NAME and P.N.)
494.69Formerly a Baja Owner, now a .........ROCK::SMITHMon May 04 1992 11:5836
Yes,  the rumor is true.  There is one less Baja owner in
the notes file.   I was very happy with my 174 Sunsport
but it just did not do some of the more specialized skiing/footing
that I wanted.  I hope its new owner will happy with it.  I will miss
some of its features but I think I will be pretty happy with my brand new

        Flightcraft 20XLOB

        Powered by a 200 HP Mercury XRI OB 
        Fuel Injected, with power steering.
        High Five SS Prop.
	Colors are White Hull With Teal, Black, and Gray stripes
        interior colors match as well.
        Eagle Trailer Custom Drive-on Trailer.
        Teal in color with independant suspension and serge breaks.

Needless to say I am VERY happy.   The performance is amazing!!!!
It is quoted as 0-36 in 4.2 sec. and I can believe it.  It is finned
so handeling is quite good as well.  Top speed so far has been about 
60 mph and that was not even pushing the trim much and with the 5 blade
prop. (engine was broken in first)  Does 52 mph with the trim fully 
tucked in and fully loaded. Have not tested its pulling power to the
limit yet but I am told it will pull 4 barefooters deepwater start
without a problem and you can be sure this will be tried.  :-)
Slalom wake is quite good as well.

I could go on...
I will try to plan a gumball at Fort Meadow in Marlboro
sometime soon to show the new toy.

OB's,  they are the only way to go....

Mike Smith   (Former Baja owner, new Flightcraft owner)


494.70ExcellantMOTTLE::DECAROLISJeanneMon May 04 1992 13:276
    
    Best of Luck with the new toy/investment Mike!  It
    sounds awsum!  I'll bet you'll miss the old Baja (for about
    2 seconds).
    
    Jeanne
494.71When's the first "car-wash" test at the Colonial dock? :-)ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterMon May 04 1992 15:145
Congrats on the new toy, Mike!  Let me know if you need another lead-butt to hang
off one of them thar ropes to perform the deepwater tow test.  Only 4?  Come on!
We got lotsa idiots with ropes and wetsuits!  :-)

...Roger...
494.72Congrats Mike!CSLALL::JEGREENCuz I luv that dirty waterTue May 05 1992 09:385
    Congrats Mike on the new toy. As nice as it looked sitting in Dan's lot
    I'm sure it looks better tied to your dock :^) ! I did good ! I only
    told one person about your new toy!
    
    ~jeff
494.73Fast, pulls footers, good wakes... whatelseyaneed?KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Tue May 05 1992 10:1311
    
    
    Nice toy, Mike! But doesn't teal clash with your hair? :-) 
    
    If only those boyz could figure out how to put a full swim platform
    on that boat, I'd be out of arguments against one. Nice toy! Oh, I
    already said that.
    
    Is Mike B. the only remaining Baja owner? better trade it Mike!
    
    >Rick
494.74There is another BAJA owner out here!DNEAST::APPANEAL_JIMWed May 06 1992 15:0813
    Well I'm mostly a reader, but I do own a BAJA 174 sunsport! So mike b.
    is not alone!! Mine is a 1988 with the 4.3 175hp. Not quite the boat
    that the 205hp is. Mine will only do about 55mph @WOT ( now where can I
    find a 4 bbl manifold and carb?? or maybe the TURBO that they put in
    the TYPHOON 4x4, that produces 280hp from the 4.3.)
    
    As far as a lake boat the 174 is hard to beat, I would like to some day
    get a 20'-23' type but $ can make you wait and I don't want to give up
    speed or trailer ability.
    
    
    			Jim Appaneal
    
494.75"Hit IT !" "wait up, my zipper's open - YEOWWWW !"HYDRA::BURGESSTue May 12 1992 14:3529
	RHIT (rumor has it that)  someone has been experimenting as 
follows with a  DRY SUIT:

	Experiment #1:

		To determine the feasibility of donning a dry suit 
		while the hanger is still in the suit.

	result;  possible, but not really practical - a thinner wire 
		hanger might have submitted sooner.




	Experiment #2:

		To determine whether or not a dry suit is as good at 
		keeping icy cold water  IN  as  OUT.

	result;  totally successful, though letting it out through the 
		ankle cuffs proved to be a lot slower than letting it
		in through the yard long zipper across the shoulders. 


	Watch this space for further ski_sci experiments  (-:

	Reg

494.76Trust me ...ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterFri May 15 1992 08:4511
RE: Reg...

See?  You trusted the person that said they zipped the suit, didn't you?  Big
mistake.  Remember, ski buddies are your friends on the lake, but they don't have
to like you!  :-)  Oh lemme guess, it was your son that "zipped" it, wasn't it?
Man, and he *has* to like you!  :-)

Wearing the dry suit with the hanger still in it, eh?  Yeah, I remember when I
had my first beer, too!  :-)  :-)

...Roger...  still_ski-less_but_hoping_for_a_run_or_two_this_weekend
494.77Pushing the limits of adhesion - PUSH !HYDRA::BURGESSFri May 15 1992 09:0426
re       <<< Note 494.76 by ROGER::GAUDET "Because the Earth is 2/3 water" >>>
>                               -< Trust me ... >-

	Errr, wasn't me  (-:

>  ...Roger...  still_ski-less_but_hoping_for_a_run_or_two_this_weekend

	We'll almost certainly be out there on Ft Meadow Pond SOME 
time over the w/e, call first to make sure.


	============================================================

	Experiment #4:	To determine the feasibility of skiing with 
just a rear high wrap binding, while wearing the front high wrap but 
having it not attached to the ski.  This was difficult, our 
experimentor had to allow most of the screws holding the front binding 
to work themselves almost all the way out, then ski hard enough to 
just pop the rest of them.  Conclusion;  CAN be done, but its weird 
having the front foot just standing on the pad, though it gets good 
laughs from the spotter and those on shore when the skier just waves 
the boot at them.

	Reg


494.78A repeat performance no less...CSLALL::JEGREENI&#039;d rather be doing a faceplantFri May 15 1992 09:239
    Geez, you guys on Ft Meadow have all the fun experiments. The closest
    I've come lately to anything scientific was observing "someone" test
    the accuracy of the fuel gage. Twasn't worried though, we had some of
    the best paddles Kidder makes.  :^)
    
    Oh, the fuel gauge is pretty darn accurate, when it said "0" the boat
    gently fell off plane and the PCM V8 didn't sound so cool anymore.
    
    ~jeff
494.79Gotta do it right!KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Fri May 15 1992 15:0120
    
    Jeff,
    
    	You didn't describe the details of that scientific experiment!
    
    	1) Look at fuel guage.
    
    	2) Mumble something
    
    	3) (Here's the important part) Tap lightly with index finger
    		on guage and mumble. This part of the experiment must
    		be done correctly or the results will be skewed!
    
    	4) Listen for silence...
    
    	5) Idle to shore on remaining fuel after boat comes off plane.
    
    	6) Walk up enbankment to Texaco imposter.....
    
    	
494.80cheap skisSNMFS::BOWMANMon May 18 1992 02:2816
    re.77
    
    try just pulling a paling off a fence and skiing that.
    we do it everynow and then for practice.
    its hard work.
    you have to have your leading foot behind the 1/2 way mark on the 
    paling for takeoff and once up you have to try and get one rear
    corner to dig in as you havent got a fin.also you have to watch
    any waves as the paling not having a curve up on the nose tends
    to go straight in.
    
    its the hardest thing ive ever skied but one of the most fun,
    great for building stamina as you cant rest at all.
    
    the other reg
    
494.81good and dodgySNMFS::BOWMANMon May 18 1992 02:3112
    
    
    i forgot to mention that most of the ski parks around where i go
    gave up repairing their paling fences because everyone was swiping
    the palings.
    also it definately helps if you sand back splinters and add a coat
    of varnish.
    
    the other reg
    
    
    
494.82I wonder if someone could.......HYDRA::BURGESSFri May 22 1992 01:5418
	Another experiment was undertaken on Ft Meadow Pond recently, this one
to determine how fast a hyperlite pilot would tough things out before letting
go -   H'lite pilot's idea, not mine.

	Results:	
			36  still crossing the wake; sortof....
			38  OK, but straight 
			40  pilot got nervous
			40 plus  definitely NOT for the faint hearted, 
				especially without the benefit of
				anything but swim shorts (-: 

		at le'go it seemed advisable to keep the boat going fast,
H'lites keep going for quite a while with no pull at these speeds.

	Reg

494.83Radical Hyper-speed!COMET::KLEINMI got up,I fell,I was addicted!Fri May 22 1992 03:177
    WOW!  I've got my head tucked between my knees just reading that note!
    
    
    sign me,
    
    
    sure to Crash
494.84Wow, can you say nuts...ROCK::SMITHFri May 22 1992 09:5610
    Reg,
    
    You mean you ONLY got up to 40 mph,  Oh I forgot you
    were not using the RIGHT kind of ski boat.  :-)
    
    Sounds like a very interesting experiment,  I'll have to 
    mention it to Grant and Gerry,  I wonder if you can step
    off the hyper-lite and barefoot away....
    
    Mike
494.85Fast?KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Fri May 22 1992 12:365
    
    Gee, Mike you beat me to it! I was just about to suggest placing
    said kamikazi H'lite rider behind your shiny new Flightcraft....
    
    Yeeha!
494.86Yep, "only" a little over 40HYDRA::BURGESSFri May 22 1992 13:3910
	Think about it guyze;  that thing is aweful wide and its a long
weird step across to plant a foot and it gets REALLY flakey when you
stand on it with only one foot  - -  but its probably been done.

re  "over 40 MPH"  vs  "sixty something"   OK, I'll drive for anyone wanting
to H'lite behind Mike's boat :-)

	Reg

494.87Ouch with after effects ?HYDRA::BURGESSTue May 26 1992 08:119
	Errr,  anyone got a pointer to the watere-ski ijuries topic ?
Maybe we should start one, especially to address injury prevention ??

	Reg

PS	Please 'scuse the typing  (-:

	
494.88Note #937CUPTAY::DECAROLISJeanneTue May 26 1992 16:4112
    
    Reg....go to note #937.
    
    What did you injure?  Let's see....slalomn usually takes it's 
    toll on the quads, shoulders, biceps, triceps, hamstring, 
    deltoids, and the brain.  :>)
    
    Cross-training will help, also, you should have a regular
    work-out schedule.  
    
    Jeanne
    
494.89beware of 'out the fronts'BAJA::THORSTEDIn search of smooth water...Tue May 26 1992 17:347
Just be careful not to go out the front at that speed (or any speed.)  They build
direction sensors into the nose of the hyperlites so that the board will return
to you after your fall.  Unfortunately, they haven't figured out a way to stop
them yet.  Just ask Crash Klein.  How many stitches was that Matt?  They need to 
work out a brakes system similar to snow skiis?

/wayne
494.90slashes on the melon are bogusCOMET::KLEINMI got up,I fell,I was addicted!Tue May 26 1992 18:505
    17 on the outside and about 9 on the inside.
    "to the skull or not at all" sez the hyperlite.
    
    Brakes would be nice,or maybe a helmet,full face!
    
494.91Ski boat spotting!CSLALL::JEGREENTeam Advil Barefoot CompanyTue Aug 11 1992 13:1612
    Rumor has it from reliable local sources that a low slung tournament
    Flightcraft 18XLT ski boat was spotted for the first time on the 
    Merrimack in N. Chelmsford last night. The sources, recognized as local 
    experts in river flotilla, gave two thumbs up to the new watercraft. 
    The lack of bow numbers (they were reportedly on board the vessel) made 
    it difficult to establish ownership of the vessel although it was later
    seen in tow behind a familar black/grey Blazer.
    
    More spottings of this craft are sure to follow. As early as tomorrow
    evening possibly.... :^)
    
    Film @ 11!
494.92But does it "PULL" ?HYDRA::BURGESSWater dependentTue Aug 11 1992 14:5512
re       <<< Note 494.91 by CSLALL::JEGREEN "Team Advil Barefoot Company" >>>
>                            -< Ski boat spotting! >-

	Wuz it red or green ?     Stop or go ?

	Who local experts on river flotila ?   Flot_Sam and Jet_Sam 
	
	Hey, maybe take a sighting down thar  m'self  t'morroh  nite 

	R

	
494.93River What?KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Wed Sep 16 1992 13:4312
    I heard a rumor that the personal name of "River Rat" was used in the
    conference.

    The following is a comment from a person not normally in this
    conference, but that feels they are qualified for such an appraisal.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jeanne, I must point out that the name of river rat is reserved for
    those few members that actually ski until December and that a little
    summer skier such as yourself should not assume to claim such a name.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
494.94Kidder,Kidder,KidderCOMET::KLEINMWhat do you mean I missed the gates?Thu Oct 08 1992 23:4712
    Rumor has it,that Kidder is dropping it's best selling Redline from
    the slalom line-up.
    
    Said ski is supposedly being replaced by a new ski carrying the name:
    
    
    
                          The HAMMER ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
     Beats me? :-)