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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

247.0. "INCOME TAX WRITEOFF??" by BTO::SILK (I'M THE N.R.A) Wed Jan 25 1989 11:43

    
    
    It's Income Tax time again!!!
    
    I purchased a new 24ft. Four Winns in 88 and would like to write it
    off as a summer res.? I was wondering if anyone new the requirements
    for the boat, to be able to write it off???
    
    I've heard that it had to have a seperate head,sleeping quarters,and
    you were required to be on the boat more that 14 days.I believe
    a Galley was also required.I've got a sink, refrigerator and portable
    stove.
                  
     I sure would like to get better than the 40% of intrest paid. Of course
    the dealer told me that the boat qualified,but I think they would
    of told me what I wanted to here just to sell the boat.

                                                    Thanks,
    
                                                      THE " REDEYE "
     
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247.1HAZEL::YELINEKWITHIN 10Wed Jan 25 1989 17:184
    
    Can you define: Portable Stove .
    
    Not Coleman I hope.
247.2NOBTO::SILKI'M THE N.R.AThu Jan 26 1989 07:347
    
    
    
    
       NOT COLEMAN!!
    
                     " REDEYE "
247.3deduct the interest ?BAGELS::MONDOUThu Jan 26 1989 08:159
    I'm sure this was discussed at length last year but I couldn't find
    the note.  Perhaps someone else will help.
    
    To my knowledge, the only expense you can "write-off" is any
    interest on a loan.  That's assuming you don't operate the
    boat as a business, etc.   
    
    If there are any other expenses that are deductible, I would
    like to know !
247.4only interest...TYCOBB::J_BORZUMATOThu Jan 26 1989 09:216
    There are no other expenses you can write off for second home
    deductions except the interest you are paying on the note.
    
    This i am positive of.
    
    Jim.
247.5BOOTES::KEYESThu Jan 26 1989 13:213
    All I can tell you is that if your head is built into the boat and
    not a portable, your boat payments are tax deductible. 
    
247.6HAZEL::YELINEKWITHIN 10Thu Jan 26 1989 17:3023
    careful....
    
    Of course if you really want to be SURE you could always call your
    local IRS Office or speak to Mr. Block. Over the last 2-3 years
    (since the tax reform of 1986), the laws regarding deductable interest
    on 'qualified' second homes which float have become more focused
    etc. You can't just have a built in head, fridge, and bolt in a cheap
    microwave. The length of the boat also fits into the 'equation'.
    In fact, A friend of mine, when he was shopping for a boat, was
    told by the dealership that the type of boat (23 ft. Grady White
    Gulfstream) would qualify. Later he found that this was not the
    case. I also have heard second hand information that indicated that
    an individual DID consult with a tax accountant concerning the type(s)
    of boats that would qualify. I guess if you're out to buy a 40 ft.
    Hateras(sp?) you can rest assure... you'll be able to deduct the
    interest on a loan however there is a fine line which may be
    questionable by the IRS.
    
    /MArk
    
    
    
     
247.7Write off the gas ????BINKLY::SMITHFri Jan 27 1989 01:4312
    
    Anybody have any info on writing off the gas you use in your boat?
    I have heard of this being done but I can not remember the reason
    why it was possible.  I think it has to do with a highway tax that
    is included in the price of gas.
    
    I may be off base on this, but I could swear I have heard of it
    being done.
    
    /Mike
    
    
247.8MSCSSE::BERENSAlan BerensFri Jan 27 1989 12:2012
re deducting interest:

The pamphlets I got from the IRS last year indicate that the length of
the boat doesn't matter -- the boat must simply have permanently
installed living accomodations (stove, icebox, toilet, berths). 

re fuel tax:

My understanding is that there is a federal highway tax on motor fuels 
(gasoline, diesel) that you can claim as a tax credit if you've used the 
fuel for other than a highway vehicle (eg, in your lawnmower). There is 
or was a special tax form for this.
247.9Seperate marine fuel taxCIMNET::CREASERAuxiliary CoxswainFri Jan 27 1989 16:508
    There is also a marine fuel tax which is split between the COast
    Guard and the States. It is fed into a fund which has Safety as
    one of its main goals. Those of us who gas up at the corner gas
    station avoid this, but if you stop at a marina gas dock check
    out the tax info on the pump. 
    
    Jerry