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149.1 | I'll have a go | CHEFS::LINCOLN_J | | Tue Mar 04 1997 15:10 | 40 |
| I'll have a go. Most teams seem to have improved their
cars enormously over the winter, and there's the added
complication of how the Bridgestone tyres will show in
the races. In testing Bridgestones have been most
impressive. Only when "the flag drops and the guessing
stops" will we really know who has something in reserve
and who hasn't.
I wouldn't want to go against Williams as being the
most consistent and quickest team around. Villeneuve
may start better than Frentzen but later on I think
the order will change. Benetton could triumph but their
drivers are the problem. Alesi is too erratic and Berger
often lacks motivation. If however he gets off to a good
start Berger could challenge the Williams.
McLaren are next. Good trouble free tests with a car that
observers thought to have something in reserve. Expect
lots of consistent good finishes. The Jordan drivers
lack experience but are no mean performers and the car
is now described as 'more driveable' than last years erratic
performer. May do well, may not finish.
Only Schumachers brilliance will extract anything from
this years unreliable and unstable car. Taking Irvines times
as a guide it's very midfield, moreso than it was last year.
The star of 97 may well prove to be Panis in the Prost-Ligier.
Extremely fast in testing, the only real question is whether
its Bridgestones can do in the race what they have in testing.
With Prost (presumably) helping with development we might
see an awful lot of the blue car this year. Nakano though
is an unknown quantity.
Disaster of the year will be Hill in the Arrows. A string
of poor qualifications and DNFs will get a lot of publicity
in the UK, where unfortunately the public do tend to think
that its drivers that win races rather than cars.
-John
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149.2 | Silver Mercedes - a surprising cocktail | MILE::JENKINS | | Tue Mar 04 1997 17:43 | 47 |
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Benetton : I think this will be a good year for them. Berger showed a lot
of enthusiasm last year and I believe he could well be a potential
champion this. Alesi will test Briatore's man management skills again.
McLaren : If McLaren can produce a decent chassis this year they too
could spring a surprise. Hakkinen put in some great performances
last year in some poor, if powerful, machinery. Increased Mercedes
power and a better car could bring Mika the drivers championship.
Coulthard needs a good season after last year.
Williams : I remain to be convinced about Frentzen. Although he's quick
I think he's unreliable and not guaranteed to finish races.
Villeneuve will improve his performances and is probably hot favourite
for the drivers title. However, wether the Williams will be as good
now that Newey is sidelined remains to be seen. That said, I wouldn't
bet against Williams winning the constructors championship.
Prost GP : Panis already looks the surprise package of 97. Wether this
is a flash in the pan or he can sustain it, who knows. Unless they
get success early in the season, Prost may decide that he should
spend most of his effort on getting the car ready for next year and the
Pug engines.
Ferrari : It seems unlikely that Schumacher won't win a race doesn't it?
But how many could he win? Less than last year's three would be a
disaster and I think that it could happen. Improvements at Benetton
and McLaren could well put the squeeze on Ferrari. Expect to see
Schumacher being given the pip.
Jordan : I suspect they'll have another poor season. Eddie seems to build
cars that look good but don't stand up to GPs. The probable loss of
Pug engines and $$$ next year will also be a distraction.
Arrows : Some have called this a big gamble by Damon. I don't think �6m
is a gamble, it's a gimme. This will probably be a poor season, but
Walkinshaw knows what it takes and I think he's got what it takes.
It was TWR engineers and designers - and Tom's astuteness in pinching
Schumacher from Jordan that put Benetton on the map. With the best
test driver around and some canny dealing in the engine department,
season '98 could see TWR in amongst it.
Stewart : A podium finish in a three car race will be a good result
for them this season.
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149.3 | Prost / Jordan / Williams | PGREEN::SACKMANJ | Pedalo'ing the Internet | Wed Mar 05 1997 13:48 | 36 |
| My 2p's woth of guesses:
Benetton: Berger will be settled enough to make a good showing. Alesi's
flashes of brilliance will surface occasionally. 3rd in constructors.
McLaren: Big improvement this season. More podium finishes. 4th.
Williams: I'm not convinced about Frentzen. Erratic behaviour will see
few finishes. Villeneuve may win the drivers championship, but I think
Frentzen will deny Frank the constructors. 2nd.
Prost: As .2 I think they have a good chance of podium finishes,
depending on the tyres. If the tyres are good then they may get the
constructors. I feel they may have the best package overall, including
a figurehead that the team and the (French) nation can get behind.
Ferrari: As good as last season, maybe a little better. Schu may start
getting fed up as the season progresses. Irvine will have a much
improved season.
Arrows: Lets see how Hill contributes to the development of the car.
Not a contender, but should improve as the season moves on, maybe a
podium finish or two. Lots of DNFs, Hill must remember that other
drivers will not pull over just because he was WC last year!
Stewart: Tiffs in the team will not affect them. As Arrows, they will
form a solid backbone to the middle runners.
Jordan: May push Williams into 3rd. The team to watch after ProstGP.
We shall see!!!
Jon.
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149.4 | Mystic Mog | CHEFS::PATEMAN | Celebreties to the Hebrides | Wed Mar 05 1997 14:42 | 78 |
| And another one...
Williams:
Start like a train, if a little fragile. Villeneuve well in the lead by
mid season, Frentzen steady Top 3 finishes, 1 or 2 wins. Get
progressively caught later in the season as the lack of Newey kicks in,
but still take the constructors title and JV is WC.
Ferrari:
Very like last season, with Irvine getting the rubbish car while they
sort out Schum's. Get stronger as the season goes on but never quite
able to run with an on song Williams. Schu runner up again.
Benetton:
Better than last year but not Championship material. Solid record of
podium finishes gives them runner up in the Constructors, should win
one or two.
McLaren:
Will run consistently in the Top 6 and one or both drivers will
regularly feature on the podium. May sneak a win if the others hit
trouble.
Jordan:
Cars will perform for a change but will let down by driver
inexperience. Lots of early season offs, combined with some excellent
qualifying positions. Will be poised for the big time next year but
will lose their engine and will be back to square one.
Prost:
Panis will be a podium finisher at least 4 or 5 times and could win if
it is wet in the early races. Car will be solidly in the top 10 all
season.
Sauber:
Will embarrass Ferrari early in the season but fade as the engine gets
a bit left behind. Will be regularly in the top 10 in qualifying and
score a few points.
Arrows:
Will go for a conservative start and may sneak into the top 6 in Oz. If
the Yamaha can be pursuaded to stay together they have the resources to
be in the top 6 by season's end. Hill will *always* out qualify Diniz,
barring mechanical or meteorological catastrophe, will prove his true
worth as a driver and be in a Benetton or McLaren in 1998.
Minardi:
Best season for years - score some points but still be nowhere near the
front
Stewart:
Thoroughly professional but not in a position to be in the mix for
points until mid season. Magnussen to outshine Barrichello
Tyrrell:
Like Minardi - best season for a long time - Salo could get a podium in
an atritional race, but not up there with the big boys
Lola:
Learning year basically throwing $$$ into a test program at real races.
Will not qualify much during the first half of the year but will get
better after Silverstone.
Now to be proven totally wrong!
Paul
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149.5 | Words from Canada | BRADOR::ZUFELT | V12 @17.5K music to my ears | Wed Mar 05 1997 22:03 | 42 |
| Her's my words of wisdom ;')
I think JV and Williams will dominate even more than last year. HHF will
not come up to standards and will have quite a few off track travels.
Benetton will be fast this year but I have yet to see either of their
drivers put in a full race let alone a full season of error free
driving.
Ferrari I think will be the main competition for Williams if they hold
together, I do not see them holding together for a full season.
Jordan has the 2 new rookies and I see this will be their down fall
with the drivers trying too hard causing many mistakes. R_SCH will have
trouble living in his brother's shadow, a big shadow to fill and nobody
will give him the time. We forget how long it took Michael to mature
and win. last year we saw pressure on Villenueve he came through the
first year. We will see the same on the little Schu with slower
equipment. He's got to brake.
Prost racing I don't know, Ligier couldn't get it together I can't see
how Prost will make it happen, not the first year anyway.
Arrows, they've been back markers for ever, I don't see anything that
has changed. Hill will find it takes more than a good driver and it
sounds like the Yamaha isn't going to help
Stewart racing I will have to wait on this team, can't see much the
first year.
Lola I think have bit off more than they can chew they have tried a few
times before when it was eisier to compete and failed. I see them having
trouble making the 107 %.
Maclaren I think will be the most improved. Now that they have the
silver of the great MERC I think they will have the power. The team has
always been there near the top or at the top. I think this will be the
come back year.
There it is in black and white.
Fred
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149.6 | oh, Minardi - worse off than Lola... | WOTVAX::STONEG | Magician Among the Spirits......... | Thu Mar 06 1997 10:01 | 48 |
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My slightly biased opinion :-
Mclaren should win the championship - the Mercedes star and Silver paint
job are very significant - with a drivers title for Hak and third or
possibly runners up for Coulthard.
Williams will make a good start, but will tail off after 2 or 3 races as
new developments - without Newey, remember - either aren't forthecoming
or fail on the track. When things start to go wrong I doubt the drivers
have the experience to pin-point the problems and get them fixed.
Benneton - reasonably solid performance from both drivers, consistently
top 6 with a few podiums; runner up in the constructors.
Ferrari - continued improvement, but with only one good car again, Irvine
will struggle; runner up or 3rd in the drivers for Schu.
TWR/Arrows - a full season of race length tests should prove useful for
1998.
Stewart - a few top 6 finishes, with the odd podium when the
Bridgestones really make a difference. Reasonably solid start for a
first season.
PGP - unlikely to to anything that Ligier didn't unless the
Bridgestones make a real difference - and even if they do can the
drivers take advantage ? - the odd top 6 finish but nothing to write
home about.
Jordan - a lot of offs as Ralf tries to gwet to grips with F1 and
living with his brothers reputation, coupled with engine problems I
doubt they'll score a point in 97.
Sauber - could well have their best season yet, if the engines hold up.
Tyrell - with two reasonable drivers they could get an odd top 6
finish, but I doubt the Ford V8 will be on the pace of the Merc,
Ferrari & Renault powered cars.
Lola - unlikely to score at all unless the Bridgestones make a real
difference in the wet.
If that isn't the kiss of death for Mclarens title hopes, I don't know
what is %^/
Graham
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149.7 | Moments of madness in prediction | PGREEN::CLARKE | Me? Very Resourceful! | Thu Mar 06 1997 10:08 | 18 |
| Consistency will be keyword this season for all teams
This will be closest season for some time
Villeneuve has reputation for fastest , but not the most conservative
of drivers and with Frentzen will probably not secure Team championship
for Williams
Best bet is on Maclaren for team honours as the two drivers will be on
podium more regularly than any other team as team is stabilised and is now
competitive
Jordan, Ferrari and Beneton will push the two above for honours with Prost/
Ligier picking up some honours (expect Panis to be in top 5 drivers)
As for WC odds on Villenueve, but I would not be surprised to see Hakkinen pip
him at the post
Alan
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149.8 | Silver more slippery?? | PGREEN::SACKMANJ | Pedalo'ing the Internet | Mon Mar 10 1997 08:03 | 7 |
| RE: the last couple.
Does the silver paint have a better aerodynamic qualiity or
something!!??
Jon.
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149.9 | The West is the best... | IOSG::DUTT | Nigel Dutt | Mon Mar 10 1997 16:43 | 2 |
| I'd guess some people at Marlboro must have been feeling a bit
silly yesterday....
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149.10 | | WOTVAX::STONEG | Magician Among the Spirits......... | Wed Mar 12 1997 17:58 | 9 |
| Don't know about the silver paint, but I did read an article about F1 a
couple of weeks ago, where they discussed some of the changes at
Mclaren. One of them was use Gold Leaf (�30k worth/car !) as a heat
shield instead of the aluminium used by other teams - Benneton
commented that they had considered it but it dodn't give enough of a
benefit so they didn't use it, perhaps they'll have a rethink now !
G.
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