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Conference 7.286::dcu

Title:DCU
Notice:1996 BoD Election results in 1004
Moderator:CPEEDY::BRADLEY
Created:Sat Feb 07 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1041
Total number of notes:18759

545.0. "DCU Information Center - first experience" by BAKER::DOUG (Doug Baker, US SDSS, 592-4628) Thu Apr 30 1992 18:14

    	I've just had an interesting experience w/ the DCU here in
    Colorado Springs (CXO).
    	Attached to todays paycheck was a DCU flyer introducing me to
    "Expanded Hours o Improved Service o Toll-Free" and directing me
    to call "1-800-DCU-8797" DCu Information Center. I thought nothing
    of it and tucked the flyer away in my briefcase for transport to
    my house.
    	Well I just now needed to call the DCU. I dialed up the CXO
    DCU # and immediately got a recording, maybe 30-45 seconds worth,
    directing me to call the above noted DCU Information Center phone
    number. I wasn't given the option of holding on the line and getting
    passed to the next available attendant, phone jargon... The line
    went dead, I waited 15-20 seconds, and then hung up. I called the
    800 number and got a pleasant attendant. She assured me that she
    and all others like her were fully trained to help me. I went with
    this, giving the information I needed. After being put on hold, only
    a short 15-20 seconds I was told that someone from the branch would
    have to call me back to assist me, a loan application, and we then
    proceeded to provide the appropriate info, ie my identity. I did
    note that the attendant offered my name and asked me to confirm it
    rather than having me provide her with the information, basically
    all you seem to have to do is provide a badge number and the DCU
    will tell you whom they think you are and ask that it be confirmed...
    	Well I waiting for a call back from the DCU, which I can pretty
    much see from the window above my desk. Seems to me what I have here
    is a service where I call an 800 number, in the 508 area code, so
    people across the street can call me back. This will probably not be
    true for all occurances, but it sure is for me at this time. I'll have
    to see if I can find a local phone number, even though I was told by
    the attendant that DCO folks won't be on the phone much anymore as
    they will be focusing on the member in from of them, ie face-to-face.
    Since I'm in 'support' phone service is fundamental and key to what
    we do, and really wouldn't expect such a bumpy start but stuff happens
    while the kinks are worked out. I'm off to a bumpy start, but not to
    worry I'm wearing protect padding!
    Doug
    
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545.1SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Thu Apr 30 1992 18:561
    Hmmm.  I didn't get anything attached to my paycheck, also in CXO.
545.2A move in the right directionSMAUG::GARRODFloating on a wooden DECk chairThu Apr 30 1992 19:5226
    Re .0
    
    I think this is a reasonable system. I'd say a lot of the calls could
    be handled centrally. For the ones that can't DCU HQ informs the local
    branch to call you. Hopefully in a very efficient manner.
    
    This has a number of advantages. It frees up a local DCU person who
    previously had to answer the phone on and off and no doubt is not set
    up with as much info as the central person or the training.
    
    In addition maybe this freed up person could be used for something more
    useful, like being able to stay open during the lunch hour.
    
    I'm very glad to see some changes being made in DCU. As the number says
    they are TRYing. I feel Chuck Cockburn genuinely wants to improve the
    DCU and began to do it when he started. He now has a board to really
    help drive him in this direction. Hopefully it is the way he wanted to
    move anyway.
    
    Also nice to see a board member (Paul Kinzelman in this case) saying
    in a note (this one or anither one). Oh had a quick word with Chuck. We
    changed the system because of 'X'. Paul then drops the info here.
    No muss no Fuss. In the past it would have been more difficult to get
    simple questions like that answered.
    
    Dave
545.3inconvenientFRETZ::HEISERask meFri May 01 1992 13:455
    What I don't like about it is dealing with the DCU's in Mass.  Most of
    my banking has to be done my mail now.  The mail takes 3 more days to
    reach me from Mass. than it does from Colorado Springs.
    
    Mike
545.4OASS::MDILLSONGeneric Personal NameTue May 05 1992 10:004
    re .1
    
    These cards were sent to us separately.  The secretary of the person in
    .0 probably just attached them before handing out pay stubs.
545.5CSC32::J_OPPELTI like it this way.Tue May 05 1992 15:1921
    	Well, I've always wondered about the equity  when I can, in effect,
    	cut to the front of the line by using the phone.  I've been in the
    	CXO branch with a line out the door.  The tellers' phone rings, and
    	they put the person on hold until they finish with the person at
    	their window.  Then they attend to the person on the phone.  That
    	caller "cut" in front of all the people waiting in the branch
    	office.
    
    	So now we have a system where there are just phone "tellers" at
    	a central location (much like we run the CSC, you know) and a
    	teller/specialist who can handle the calls without interrupting 
    	all the people queued up for a different service access method
    	(ie standing in line at a brance office.)
    
    	If there is something out of the ordinary, DCU does an LOR
    	(local office referral for you non-csc types) just as the DEC
    	CSC (Customer Support Center) does.
    
    	I like it.
    
    	Joe Oppelt
545.6Results from basenote?AUKLET::MEIERWhere do the mermaids stand?Thu May 07 1992 13:1712
re .0 (Doug Baker)

So, did DCU get back to you in a timely manner?  I think that's one of the key
questions here.  Our mortgage was transfered from Comfed to L (protect the
guilty and all that :-)) when Comfed went out of business, and L never called
me back when I had to leave my name on their machine (because they were too busy
to talk to me when I called) despite assurances from the main switchboard that
they return all calls in 24 hours.  We have had our new mortgage for 3 months
now and they still haven't called me back :-) It was a great day when we
said "Goodbye L" rather than "$^($#%*&  L".

Jill
545.7AOSG::GILLETTSuffering from Personal Name writer's blockThu May 07 1992 13:5530
.6 raises an issue (albeit inadvertently) that I've been thinking about
for quite some time.  That's the issue of who purchases mortgages from 
DCU, and the potential results.

When a financial institution fails and "the fed" (encompassing FDIC, FSLIC,
NCUA, and whomever else) steps in, the bottom line is that those who acquire
the failed organization's loan portfolio are not usually required to accept
all the loans, or the terms of the loans.  A real dangerous situation arises
when an institution fails, and then the acquirers decline to take Joe Blows
mortgage action and call the loan.  Joe has to fork over the balance due,
or risk losing the place.  Needless to say, either way Joe isn't a happy guy.

In spite of the enormous battle waged over the DCU BoD, and ultimately over
the way things are done in DCU, and despite the Mangone fraud and the resultant
red ink, I've never believed that DCU would fail.  I think it was, and is,
sound, and that it's a sound place to save and borrow.  On the other hand,
when DCU sells mortgages, do we always know the purchaser is in good shape,
and isn't going to fold?  With the plethora of bank, S&L, and CU failures
of the recent past, I think this is a valid concern.

I see the risks of failure, the possibilities of homeowners losing their 
homes, and the general hassle of having your mortgage change owners under
your feet as strong reasons for DCU not to continue selling of mortgages,
at least not to the extent that they've been selling in the past.  Couple this
reasoning with some warnings I've read about DCU having "too much cash" and 
that this could lead to taxation and other hassles, and I think it makes
sense for DCU to originate, and hold more mortgages.

./chris