[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference 7.286::dcu

Title:DCU
Notice:1996 BoD Election results in 1004
Moderator:CPEEDY::BRADLEY
Created:Sat Feb 07 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1041
Total number of notes:18759

506.0. "Ray Schmalz note to volunteers" by INDUCE::SHERMAN (ECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326) Sat Mar 21 1992 16:52

This note is being posted in the DCU notes conferece at the request of
Ray Schmalz.  It is a memo that has been sent to volunteers who have been
distributing the "Vote for A Qualified Board" flier.  Ray gives permission
to readers of the note conference to forward it to others who may be
interested:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
TO: VOLUNTEERS
SUBJ: Vote for a Qualified Board Flier


Thank you for your recent efforts in distributing the "Vote for a Qualified 
[DCU] Board" flier.  I believe you have helped in educating other DCU 
members about all the choices available in the current election.

As some of you know, this flier has generated a great deal of feedback, 
both positive and negative.  I believe it would be in everyone's best 
interests to stop distributing this flier.  We now need to let the members 
decide how to vote, and meanwhile refocus everyone's energies on Digital's 
business.

I would appreciate your cooperation in support of this request by removing 
fliers from cafeterias and other public places and discarding them. I also 
urge you to be mindful of the rights of all DCU members and Digital 
employees to express their opinions within Digital's policies and 
procedures.

We are considering issuing a new flier and will send these out as soon as 
possible if we decide to move ahead with them.

Thanks again for your continuing support.


						Ray Schmalz
						DTN: 223-7736
						@MSO or FIDDLE::SCHMALZ


T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
506.1But it's ambiguousBUBBLY::LEIGHDCU: I'm voting for REAL CHOICESSun Mar 22 1992 07:4210
    re .0
    
    I've sent mail to Ray pointing out that this memo could be interpreted
    as a request from Ray for volunteers to remove _all_ flyers --
    Qualified Board ones _and_ other candidates' ones.
    
    I'm going to keep a careful eye on the REAL CHOICES flyers in my
    facility.  I didn't authorize Ray or his volunteers to take them down.
    
    Bob
506.2re .1RGB::SEILERLarry SeilerSun Mar 22 1992 09:0016
Hopefully the context of Ray's statement will be clear -- Ray refers to
specifically to problems with the "qualified board" flier and says that
they have stopped distribution of *this* flier -- and only then asks
people to remove fliers.  Still, you never can tell what people might 
read into words -- I have also had experience with people reading more 
into what I say that I had intended.

But given the many reports of "real choices" fliers disappearing prior
to Ray's recent message, it is certainly a good idea to be watch for 
whether it keeps on happening -- if it does, that is important but may
be unrelated to Ray's most recent message.

Let's all keep working to make this as clean a campaign as possible.

	Enjoy,
	Larry
506.3SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Sun Mar 22 1992 13:047
    The REAL CHOICES literature sometimes disappears without "opposition"
    help.  On Friday afternoon, all the tents disappeared from the CXO1
    cafeteria.  When I checked into why, it turned out the contract
    cleaning people had a standing order to clean out everything every
    Friday.  I wasn't happy, the the disappearnce was certainly benign.
    
    Now, should I make new 200 new tents (ugh!) for Monday?
506.4INDUCE::SHERMANECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326Sun Mar 22 1992 21:325
    Personally, I appreciate Ray's memo.  I am hopeful that all candidates
    and volunteers will work for a "clean" election.  These are tremendously 
    important decisions that shareholders are making.
    
    Steve
506.5SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Sun Mar 22 1992 21:523
    Yes, I appreciate it, too.  I would have appreciated it more eight days
    earlier.  Then we could have avoided many incidents and complaints to
    Ron Glover.
506.6Ron can help with the other problemsGUFFAW::GRANSEWICZI'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next weekSun Mar 22 1992 22:5620
    
    RE: .0
    
    Might I offer some advice if you do decide to re-issue this flyer? 
    A call to Ron Glover concerning Digital's Policies and Procedures would
    be most enlightening.  It was the very first call I made before the
    Special Meeting petition drive.  He was very helpful and was very clear
    on what was allowed and what was not allowed.  Handing out flyers at
    entrances and exits, as you instructed volunteers, was explicitly
    disallowed.  You might also ask him about placing flyers in mail slots
    and in other work areas.
    
    Might I also suggest, in the best interest of DCU-DEC relations, that
    you also not utilize DCU employees to recruit volunteers for your
    efforts?  It needlessly places them in a very uncomfortable position. 
    It also is in violation of DCU's Election Guidelines.  Surely you can
    get volunteers through normal channels.
    
    Doing all this according to established policies and guidelines is just
    so much easier and 'the right thing' to do.
506.7SQM::MACDONALDMon Mar 23 1992 09:4911
    
    Re: .0
    
    > ... We now need to let the members decide how to vote, ...
    
    Interesting.  Was there no need before?  Is this perhaps very subtle
    evidence of the current BoD attitude that not just anyone could/should
    run the the DCU?
    
    Steve
    
506.8I like these two statements in conjunctionEOS::ARMSTRONGMon Mar 23 1992 09:556
    "We now need to let the members decide how to vote, ..."

unless we decide they may make the wrong decision, so

    "We are considering issuing a new flier and will send these
    out as soon as possible if we decide to move ahead with them."
506.9Where is his WHY?XCUSME::LEVYMon Mar 23 1992 12:5811
    Ray didn't seem to think it necessary to indicate to his workers
    WHY the fliers are being recalled.
    
    He must be in the mode of "do this" "do that" "don't ask" "just do".
    No explanation other than letting the members now decide, as if
    they'd had enough guidance from above for one day.
    
    Is he too embarrassed to admit that the flier broke DEC's P&P, or
    does he not think it important? Would you vote for this man?
    
    
506.10An indication of the future?PLOUGH::KINZELMANPaul KinzelmanMon Mar 23 1992 13:213
Gee, if he's that concerned about keeping seemingly innocuous information
from folks that agree with him, I wonder how communicative he would be on
the board?
506.11CSC32::J_OPPELTI like it this way.Mon Mar 23 1992 13:454
    	re .3
    
    	It looks like these things need to be collected for safety's
    	sake every Friday afternoon.  (Maybe every afternoon period.)
506.12CSC32::S_MAUFEsociety needs a cat proof keyboard.Mon Mar 23 1992 15:509
    
    The CXO3 canteen has the new "Qualified cnadidates" flyer, minus the
    persons name who didn't want to be on.
    
    Tom's flyers are still there. When putting them out I explained to the
    cleaning person that thery'd be there for two weeks, so I guess she
    didn't hit them last Friday 8-)
    
    Simon