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Conference 7.286::dcu

Title:DCU
Notice:1996 BoD Election results in 1004
Moderator:CPEEDY::BRADLEY
Created:Sat Feb 07 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1041
Total number of notes:18759

491.0. "One Petition Candidate's Experience" by GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZ (Vote for DCU Petition Candidates) Wed Mar 11 1992 22:22

	The following describes another petition candidate's experience
	while running for the Board a few years ago.  This candidate
	contacted me and wanted it to be made known what petition
	candidates could be up against.

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	I would like you to know the form of harassment I took while
	trying to get elected.  Even though we weren't given much time
	between submission of our "petition submission" and election/ballot
	time, they wanted 2 weeks to approve any campaign materials.  I
	simply restated the same "short qualification paragraph" they
	published in the election announcement going out to all members.
	I was handing them out around MKO.  I also had a friend
	sitting at a table in the cafeteria here at MKO asking
	for votes for me.  They said this was "unauthorized" campaigning
	and threatened to remove my name from the ballot.  They backed off
	when I asked them who my lawyer should contact for improper election
	policies. 

	The next two years I got no announcements of coming elections
	from the DCU.   On the 3rd year, I asked the DCU MKO branch
	manager why I wasn't getting the announcements about the elections
	or a ballot.  (On several occasions.)  When she finally got back to
	me, I found my birthdate had been changed from 2-Jul-1930 to
	2-Jul-1983, thus making me "too young" to receive such material....
	tricky huh?
	
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491.1Any good stories for this year?SMAUG::GARRODAn Englishman's mind works best when it is almost too lateThu Mar 12 1992 20:166
    I was just wondering. I doubt whether any petition candidate has come
    up against anything so blatantly biased this year. What's the worse
    that has happened? Taking down posters is one thing but in my mind
    changing someones recorded birthdate is in a different league.
    
    Dave
491.2On the flip side...GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZI'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next weekSat Mar 14 1992 14:097
    
    Now that I think about this a little more, if somebody could change the
    birthdate of somebody so they don't get a ballot, they could also
    change the birthdate so somebody under age COULD receive a ballot. 
    Should this be a concern?  Not that I don't trust DCU to hold a
    completely fair election and count.  Just like they did at the Special
    Meeting.  Maybe a call to the NCUA is in order?
491.3SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Sat Mar 14 1992 15:482
    Not on the basis of just one example that could very well be a simple
    clerical error.
491.4clerical error?RGB::SEILERLarry SeilerSun Mar 15 1992 22:2912
re .3:

How often is the non-financial data that the DCU keeps on us altered
in their data base?  Aside from addresses, I would have guessed
almost never.  *Sometimes* somebody changes their name, but I really
don't see how a clerical error could result in a change in birth year.
Assuming that this event really happened and assuming that it was an
accident, it still seems to me to be very important for the DCU to 
figure out how it could have happened, to keep it from happening again.

	Enjoy,
	Larry
491.5Food for thoughtTLE::AMARTINAlan H. MartinTue Mar 17 1992 19:548
Is it possible to defraud DCU (or the IRS) by changing the age of account
holders (perhaps something to do with tax law)?  If so, you'd expect there
to be journaling of the "change age" transactions, and you'd expect the
journaling to be preserved for examination by auditors.

And you'd expect to be able to find out which person allegedly altered the
account record...
				/AHM
491.6Will Judge Crater please be counted?OASS::MDILLSONGeneric Personal NameWed Mar 18 1992 11:112
    You know, this is beginning to sound an awful lot like Chicago politics
    in the Daley regime.  I wonder when the dead will start voting? ;-)