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308.1 | We pay the tab either way :-( | POBOX::KAPLOW | Have package, will travel | Wed Oct 09 1991 19:16 | 9 |
| According to the bylaws, if we (DCU and/or its members or anyone
else) sue the BoD for any actions they have taken on behalf of the
DCU, then the DCU picks up their legal tab, even if they are found
guilty of mismanagement or fraud. This would seem to cover even
the defense that Mr Mangone will obviously require for his aledged
actions. See article XIX, section 8(a)-(c) of the bylaws.
I seem to remember reading somewhere in here that the BoD was
bonded for $3M.
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308.2 | Title: Are DCU members paying a lawyer to fight against DCU members? | SELECT::CHAVEZ | | Thu Oct 10 1991 10:20 | 10 |
| Copied from Note 304.24
Re; .22
**"At this point, its' their lawyer versus us non-layers."**
Now, here is an interesting point. Is DCU BOD paying for "their" lawyer
with DCU's and, therefore, its' membership's money? Is "their" lawyer
advising BOD how to negate or "work around" DCU members special petition?
I had understood DCU BOD's lawyer was hired to litigate with Magone's siutaion.
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308.3 | | SSBN1::YANKES | | Thu Oct 10 1991 12:46 | 49 |
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Re: .0
When I was serving on a condo association's board, that same
question of "what are our liabilities?" came up. The answer from the
condo's attorney was that as long as the board members were acting
with prudent business judgement based on acceptable levels of information
they could not personally be held liable for anything that went wrong.
(This isn't to say noone could have sued the condo's board -- its just
that the board would probably win.)
The "acceptable levels of information" part says that the board had
to take reasonable care to insure that they had all the information
customarilly needed to make that particular decision. It doesn't say that
the board has to research everything to the last degree, however, only
obtain enough information that a reasonable person would reasonably
need to make the decision.
The "prudent business judgement" part says that the board would
have to consider the information at their disposal, and make reasonable
judgements that a reasonable person would be expected to make. (ie.
don't ignore pieces of information, don't make a decision that is
contrary to what the information suggests, don't make a decision that
knowingly would harm the business, etc., etc.)
These two parts together make up what is known as a "fiduciary
responsibility" for something. If someone were to step outside the
bounds of the fiduciary responsibility, _then_ they could be personally
held liable for their actions. As can be infered from my wording thus
far, it all boils down to doing what is considered "reasonable".
In other than blatant cases, violating a fiduciary responsibility
can be a very hard thing to prove. The "reasonable information" part,
for example, can't be proven by looking back on a situation with
new-found knowledge and say "but you should have done XYZ..." based on
that new-found knowledge. What you have to prove is that the board
had enough information / evidence / reasonable doubts / etc., _at that
time_ to cause a "reasonable board" to seek other information before
making a decision. The same with the "prudent business judgement"
part. Just because something went wrong doesn't mean that prudence
wasn't used in making the decisions -- what has to be proven is that
the board made a decision contrary to what a "reasonable board" would
have made at the same time and with the same information.
Anyways, that's how our condo's attorney explained it to us. Apply
at will to the DCU situation...
-craig
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308.4 | One other instance | MUDHWK::LAWLER | Not turning 39... | Thu Oct 10 1991 12:52 | 14 |
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re -.1
Kinda like the "Due diligence" stuff I pontificated about a
while ago. (But I just play one on TV... :^)
There is, however one other instance where a director can be
sued. If a director knows (or should have known) of, and condones
criminal actions of the organization, the directors can be held
individually liable for the criminal activities of the entity.
-al
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308.5 | | GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZ | Someday, DCU will be a credit union. | Thu Oct 10 1991 18:45 | 19 |
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RE: bonding
I requested copies of the bonding policies on the BoD before they
stepped in to protect us. They denied copies but did tell me that the
BoD was bonded for a total of $3 million.
RE: lawyers
Yes people, may queries concerning DCU's lawyers have told me that DCU
has hired the biggest and best legal counsel in Boston. I have been
told they are very expereienced in handling matters involving
management and shareholders. We ARE paying for our BoD's lawyers.
Welcome to the cold, cruel facts of life, chapter 1. The people in
power have all the advantages of that power. What WE have is
determination to do the right thing, no matter how long it takes. No
legal counsel can prevent our open and trusted BoD from coming up for
election over the next few years. Trust me BoD, we'll still be here,
waiting patiently for you. My pen eagerly awaiting...
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308.6 | Digital Bondage | KL10::WADDINGTON | Ban Censorship! | Thu Oct 17 1991 22:15 | 3 |
| We should run another petition drive! Lets set up a petition to see
how many folks would be willing to start a new credit union, and
dispense with the current BOD altogether... ;-)
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