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2184.1 | loran couplers | ASDG::ANTONIADIS | | Mon Jan 16 1995 15:49 | 16 |
| Alan, I dont think that you need to worry about "adapting" a cooupler.
I had a Combi Loran, vintage 1983, with fried coupler that worked fine
with an new Apelco coupler. In fact I run both my new Apelco and
the old Combi off the same coupler simultaneously. Of course, one
of the Lorans had to be capacitively coupled to avoid DC feed short.
By looking into my coupler I found it to be very simple, although
I did not attempt to trace the circuit, since it works. I doubt
that either the voltage or the impedance matching (at 100 KHz)
is that critical.
I would suggest that you look into buying a replacement coupler for
any one of the modern popular brands. I seem to recall that the feed
to my Apeclo (vintage 1992 I dont remember the model No), is about 9-10
V, and I imagine they all run off similar valtages with large margins.
/Dimitri
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2184.2 | thank you, TI | UNIFIX::BERENS | Alan Berens | Mon Jan 23 1995 15:28 | 25 |
| re .1:
Thanks for the suggestions.
I finally did what I should have done in the first place -- I called
Texas Instruments. The phone number in our owner's manual now belongs to
a real estate company. AT&T information for 800 numbers gave me a number
for TI's customer response group. The woman who answered didn't say
"loran?", she just immediately transferred me to Elgin, a pleasant
fellow who said, "yes, we still have those couplers in stock, $150
each, would you like it shipped 2nd day air or will UPS ground do?"
Wow, what a pleasant surprise. We bought this loran in early 1982, and
since TI has been out of the marine electronics business for a while (so
far as I know), I was fully expecting no help at all. The entire call
was less than five minutes. If only every vendor were so helpful and
organized.
Alan
PS As to why I want to continue using an old loran ...... It has a very
bright display that can be read from the cockpit (it is mounted at the
back of the chart table) and, even more importantly, I know how to use
it without (re)reading the owner's manual. I just don't want to learn to
use another box if I don't have to. After a year, I still have to
frequently refer to the manual for our GPS.
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2184.3 | | SX4GTO::WANNOOR | | Wed Jan 25 1995 01:27 | 4 |
| $150? What a rip-off!
I can buy a used Loran unit complete with antenna for $50 around
here...
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2184.4 | 7930 = new software | OTOOA::MOWBRAY | This isn't a job its an Adventure | Wed Jan 25 1995 07:34 | 6 |
| Just to steer this topic a few degrees off course, has anyone out there
updated their Loran for the new 7930 Chain ? I would be interested in
finding out what is involved in general and in particular with
RAY-Jeff.
Thanks
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2184.5 | Some Ray-Jeff Experience | SMURF::LIU | SWIFTERNAFARTINAWINDSTORM | Wed Jan 25 1995 08:21 | 7 |
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Which chain is 7930? I have flown coast-to-coast with a PL-99.
They updated my software beforehand and I had no coverage problems
anywhere. Just sent them the unit beforehand. It came back in
maybe three weeks. I seem to remember the update costing $50-$60.
Hope this helps.
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2184.6 | my choice | UNIFIX::BERENS | Alan Berens | Wed Jan 25 1995 08:57 | 10 |
| re .3:
I'm sure I could buy a used loran for less. But I chose not to. I know
how to use my present loran, I know that it is reliable, accurate, and
has been well taken care of. With a new coupler I will be able to
depend upon it for many years to come. A used loran is of uncertain
reliability, especially a very cheap one.
You may choose differently.
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2184.7 | Labrador | OTOOA::MOWBRAY | This isn't a job its an Adventure | Wed Jan 25 1995 10:34 | 12 |
| 7930 is the Labrador Sea chain. Probably not an issue for most Noters
as the coverage is North Atlantic, Greenland, Northenr Newfoundland
etc.
The Master was moved from Iceland to Newfoundland a few months ago and
consequently the software needs updating. I have never been too
pleased with the PL-99 ... when it works it works fine but there are
times it is too tempramental for my liking, so I have been wondering if
I should stick the cost of the change into a bank account to go towards
a nice GPS system. Your $50-60 will translate to $100 Canadian .... I
would think that I could get a GPS for $600 CDN plus 20% sales tax so
say $720. that $100 would be a nice start.
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2184.8 | 7930 is North! | SMURF::LIU | SWIFTERNAFARTINAWINDSTORM | Thu Jan 26 1995 08:44 | 17 |
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Labrador Sea - Haven't gotten up there. I note that my PL-99
performs much more temperamentally without a pre-amp on the
antenna. The pre-amp cost $50 USD and is half the size of a
pack of cigarettes. THe down side is that it chews up battery
power so connection to external power becomes pretty mandatory.
Since I only paid $165 USD for mine used, added a pre-amp and
a software update, and its taken me from Atlantic to Pacific,
and Carribean to Canada, I've gotten my money's worth. But the
minute GPS's drop into that price range, I'll jump.....
I too vote for simplicity and reliability. Stuff that is too
high tech, that requires too many keystrokes and function
sequences, too often becomes useless in a jam when you really
need it. I dumb box you can work in your sleep is much better
than a smart box that you have to use every day to be able to
remember the key strokes when you need them.
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2184.9 | | OTOOA::MOWBRAY | This isn't a job its an Adventure | Thu Jan 26 1995 12:42 | 4 |
| The pre-amp is a coupler that fits on the PL-99's whip atntenna ? I
assume that yours was totally hand-held ?
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2184.10 | PL-99 Info | SMURF::LIU | SWIFTERNAFARTINAWINDSTORM | Thu Jan 26 1995 13:03 | 11 |
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I used the antenna, power, and ground connectors on the lower rear
of the unit. About 8' of coax runs from the PL-99 to the pre-amp.
about 1" of coax connects the pre-amp to the short whip antenna.
The PL-99 is velcro-ed to my knee most of the time. Sometimes
I pass it over to the passenger. So, yes, I am holding the actual
PL-99, but not the antenna. An easy set up to duplicate. And the
antenna that I use is only 2/3 the length of the standard extendible
whip that is supplied.
Hope this helps.
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2184.11 | | POBOX::ROGERS | hard on the wind again | Fri Jan 27 1995 14:55 | 15 |
| I agree with Alan. New and low cost Lorans seem to be garbage. I sold
my LC90 when the boat went on the hard for a few years. Plugged in an
Apelco 6400 last summer.
Forget it: 1.4mi repeatability, only from 2-4pm, 2nd and 4th tuesdays,
odd months.
The rest of the time I'm navigating between Indianapolis and Terre
Haute.
Needless to say, it sits in a cardboard box waiting until I find the
time and motivation to send it on a "voyage" to Hudson NH.
If it works, keep it!
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