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1747.1 | try the Mystic Seaport Museum | SSGV01::TANG | | Tue Jun 25 1991 12:35 | 12 |
| Don Treworgy down at the Mystic Seaport Museum in Connecticut offers
courses on celestial navigation. I can't remember exactly how much
each course is, although I think it was a pretty hefty amount, and
I think that you need to live reasonably near the Seaport because most
courses are taught on a weekly basis. The Museum's phone number is
(203) 572-0711; ask either for Don or the planetarium.
Using a sextant isn't hard at all, but understanding what the sextant
tells you is something else entirely. All I know is: True virgins
make dull company; add whisky. ;-) Good luck!
Scarlet
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1747.2 | | HPSRAD::BUSCH | Dave Busch, MRO1-2/S10 | Tue Jun 25 1991 15:11 | 15 |
| I had a friend at work (Honeywell, Billerica MA, now retired) whose main hobby
was celestial navigation. He used to take his sextant and stop watches on
cruises when he went on vacation and compare his calculations with those of the
sophisticated computerized equipment on the cruise ship. Anyway, he had
programmed his HP calculator with all of the necessary equations, and then some.
He had even gone so far as to develop new techniques for taking running fixes
which he published in the proceedings of whatever national association for
navigation that he belonged to.
I don't know if he is still involved but if you live in his neighborhood, you
might look him up and give him a call. He may be able to direct you to the
appropriate classes, etc. His name is Ed Mathews and he lives in Boxboro MA.
Dave
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1747.3 | 3 sources. | ROYALT::FGZ | Federico Genoese-Zerbi | Tue Jun 25 1991 15:31 | 18 |
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At some point the Boston Museum of Science had courses in Celestial Navigation.
I bet they still do.
The Boston Harbour Sailing Club offers a 2 day (whole weekend) celestial
navigation course and can give an ASA Celestial Navigation cert. The course
is about $150 (not including any ASA exam or cert.)
How about the USCG Auxiliary or Power Squadrons? They should have courses too
I'd think.
The final alternative is self-study. Get a good book (just go down to
Nautical Needs or Boxelles and brouse) and an artificial horizon and find the
position of your house using the sun (initially) and other bodies several
times over several days. When it stops moving, you have mastered the art :-)
F.
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1747.4 | Just a little more needed. | CSC32::SCHONBRUN | | Tue Jun 25 1991 21:02 | 14 |
| A sextant is just one of a set of things you need in order to
find your position. They are:
1. The sextant.
2. An accurate timepiece.
3. A nautical Almanac (e. g. Reeds)
4. A calculator with trig functions or an appropriate set of tables.
5. Two clearly visible celestial bodies and a clear horizon.
There are a number of books that explain how to put this all
together to find a position. Many of them are very pedantic.
My own favorite is Celestial Navigation (I think that's the title),
by Letcher. It's short and concise and relatively easy to read.
Stan
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1747.5 | Thanks, also spoke w/Celestaire | RECYCL::MCBRIDE | | Wed Jun 26 1991 10:10 | 18 |
| Thanks for the replies (and the mail). I went out last night and
brought bodies down before the mosquitoes brought me down and basically
messed around. I know I need a few other things in order take any real
sights for plotting my house etc. Just another great excuse to use to
go boat stuff shopping! The other good news (for me) is the frau has
expressed an interest in learning how to use it also so we will
probably bumble through the learning process together. After that I
may be able to read the other half of Ocean Navigator and actually make
sense out of it. I called the folks at Celestaire and they were real
pleasant if not a little surprised to here how I got my unit. They are
supposedly the sole importers for the Astra IIIb. After all was said,
they were happy to pop a set of English instructions (along with a
catalog of course) in the mail for me. They also offered to help with
any problems I may have that requires dealing with the factory. Highly
recommended so far. For anyone interested their number is 800-727-9785.
They are located in Wichita Kansas, USA.
Brian
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1747.6 | course @ Rkpt Apprenticeshop | SELECT::SPENCER | | Wed Jun 26 1991 11:54 | 6 |
| The Rockport Apprenticeshop is offering a week-long celestial course this
July (the last week, I recall), for only $75. A very pleasant place,
pace, and people, if you have the time and inclination (or is it
declination?) to spend it there.
J.
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1747.7 | Self help | WR2FOR::BOLTONJA | | Sun Jun 30 1991 18:28 | 19 |
| I recommend two books that are useful if you want to try the self help
approach. The first one is a short traditional explanation of the
concepts involved in celestial navigation and has been around for
years. It's called:
Celestial Navigation For Yachtsmen
by Mary Blewitt.
The second book falls into the "Never mind how it works, just do it
this way" category. It's called:
A Star to Steer Her By
by Edward J. Bergin
Both of these books are useful and will help to explain the methods and
materials needed to cross oceans.
Good luck
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1747.8 | February course offering. | RECYCL::MCBRIDE | | Fri Nov 15 1991 10:09 | 13 |
| After getting side tracked for awhile with other pursuits I finally
found a place for celestial instruction. There is an individual in
Princeton, MA that has offered private instruction using H.O. 229 for
the past several years. My ex-partner used to teach this course with
him. 6 weekly sessions for $75.00 starting in February/March. The
classes are small, 6-10 people and informal. It is also strategically
located near my house which is of even greater benefit. The person
teaching the course is Dr. John Gardner. If anyone else is interested,
I can post the number (don't have it handy). Can't vouch for the
quality of the instruction but the recommendation he received from my
partner is enough for me. Thanks all for the previous suggestions.
Brian
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1747.9 | 6-Week Celestial Navigators | MEMORY::LAZGIN | | Fri Nov 15 1991 13:12 | 7 |
| I have taken the "6-week Celestial Navigation" extravaganza a few
years ago, (in '84) and need a "refresh".
Where will you have this course?
Frank
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1747.10 | Princeton Celestial Navigation course | EMDS::MCBRIDE | | Fri Jan 03 1992 13:11 | 10 |
| I received the info in the mail for the course in Princeton yesterday.
It will be held for 6 weeks starting in February, do not know which
night yet. Dr. R. John Groves will be the instructor using H.O.229.
His practice is in Worcester but the course will be held in hos home in
Princeton. If interested, he must be contacted before January 15th.
His office number is 508-754-4299. I also have his home number but
will not share that here because it is unlisted. Please send me mail
if there is interest.
Brian
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1747.11 | Museum of Science | HANNAH::SEARS | Paul Sears, DSG1-2/E6, dtn 235-8452 | Mon Jan 06 1992 12:03 | 5 |
| Another source, which i'd highly recommend, is the Boston Museum of
science, Hayden Planetarium. They display the navigational triangle
right there above your head.
paul
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1747.12 | Wednesday nights beginning 2/12/92 | EMDS::MCBRIDE | | Wed Jan 08 1992 12:50 | 6 |
| Quick update on the course in Princeton. It will be held Wednesday
evenings beginning Feb. 12th and for the following 5 weeks, six
sessions in all. I believe there are a few spots open still though he
had the 6 minimum the other day.
Brian
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1747.13 | Which Princeton? | SAINT::STCLAIR | | Thu Jan 09 1992 10:47 | 3 |
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Is he going to be in Massachusetts or New Jersey or somewhere else?
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1747.14 | MA | EMDS::MCBRIDE | | Thu Jan 09 1992 11:41 | 3 |
| Princeton MA.
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1747.15 | Course complete - pretty interesting to me | EMDS::MCBRIDE | | Mon Mar 23 1992 09:31 | 25 |
| Well, the course is over and overall I am quite satisfied. Mr. Brodeur
was the only other Digital person in the class, the majority of the
folks were local friends of the good Doctor's. We went into some
detail on the history of celestial navigation which made it more
interesting to me. It was not a cook book course by any stretch.
We used H.O 229 for sight reductions. All of the different celestial
bodies were covered, Sun, Moon, planets and selected stars. We also
covered sextant mechanics and history as well as adjustments. I found
that I had significant side and index error which I was able to correct
Saturday. I had an index error approaching 35' which is a lot.
The last day we were able to do a morning sun sight and then a noon
passage. There were three of us and one artificial horizon which made
it sort of difficult to work through. The glass also kept fogging up
since it was so cold and the sun was very bright. I did manage to
verify that Doctor Grove's house has moved only slightly though :-).
All in all I am pleased with the course. I do not believe he will be
conducting it next year though. To gain proficiency, I will most
likely retake a course next Fall if the opportunity to practice often
does not present itself. So if anyone is in need of a novice
naviguesser, I'm in ELF.
Brian
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1747.16 | | EYLAK::BATES | Ken Bates | Mon Mar 23 1992 10:31 | 7 |
| > it sort of difficult to work through. The glass also kept fogging up
> since it was so cold and the sun was very bright. I did manage to
Try using Wesson oil (or something similar) instead of water in the artificial
horizon. It won't cause fogging, and is also much less sensitive to movement.
- Ken
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