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Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1662.0. "Marine Equipment in War" by LANDO::STONE () Fri Feb 08 1991 08:14

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Note 705.308         Military Strategies in the Middle East           308 of 310
TSGDEV::WILSON                                       21 lines   7-FEB-1991 14:05
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    Yes there is a LORAN chain that serves the middle east.

    The US Government has been buying civilian hand held LORANs as well
    as GPS units to the point where there is a shortage of available units.

    Trimble a US GPS manufacturer that got its start in military GPS units
    is back ordered due to government orders.

    Ray Jefferson hand held LORANs and Micrologics are on allocation.

    ICOM marine hand held radios are also one of the civilian gizmos being
    pressed into military duty.

    The irony of the use of the civilian GPS units is that the military has
    deactivated the reduced sensitivity of the system so that the civilian 
    units would have maximum accuracy.  So in peace time the civilian
    units had reduced accuracy, now in war time when it could be used by
    both sides it has increased accuracy - seems a little backwards.

    Don Wilson


    
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1662.1Escalating the Nautical Arms RaceSTEREO::HOMon Feb 18 1991 16:0816
    Everyone who doesn't live in a cave has seen those remarkable night
    videos of the air raid over Baghdad.  
    
    Well, for those of us who want a peice of the military industrial
    complex to call our own, West Marine offers
    
              * * * NIGHT VISION MONOCULARS * * *
    
    The same technology used by CNN and Apache helicopters in a convenient
    hand held package.  Yours for only $1999.99.
    
    So dump those obsolete Fujinon 7X50's overboard and go with the latest
    and greatest.  Next time Taylor Ann tries racing with her lights out,
    you'll be ready.
    
    
1662.2the uses are many...SELECT::SPENCERTue Feb 19 1991 13:1919
>>>              * * * NIGHT VISION MONOCULARS * * *
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>>>    Yours for only $1999.99.
    
For the ultimate in stealth racing or cruising at night, buy *two*, and 
link them with a custom bridge fitting and head harness!  ($999.99 sounds
reasonable for this added hardware, certainly compared to the investment
in the scopes themselves.....) 

Since keeping a flashlight trained on the jib/genny telltales is such a 
hassle (batteries die, shift the light each tack, watch it short out
beating in heavy wweather, etc), this is a great high tech way to solve 
that pesky problem.  And there must be other equally worthwhile uses... 
dodging pot buoys coming into Cape Porpoise at 0100, 24-hour bird
identification, learning more about the scope and importance of this
country's underground economy through direct observation of offshore
importers right before your very eyes.... 

J.
1662.3coming soon for $299AKOCOA::DJOHNSTONTue Feb 19 1991 18:206
    On a serious note, I wouldn't be surprised to see these as semi
    standard equipment within three to five years.  The Japanese will crank
    up the volume to a point where the night vision feature will be as
    common as a built in compass, and a lot more useful.
    
    Dave
1662.4They are handy at night...MOOV01::TRAINORAnchored in my driveway...Wed Feb 20 1991 08:5211
    Dean should be able to authenticate this.  Two years ago, while I was
    racing on Bodacious, our navigator worked at Sanders Associates as a
    systems test engineer.  During the weekend of the Berringer overnighter 
    he managed to sign out a pair of night vision binoculars and we used
    them in the race.  They really do turn night into day.  We knew where
    the competition was and how the wind was effecting the surface of the
    water.  John Burbank, however, in the interest of fair sailing insisted
    that we keep the use of them to a minimum.  By the way, they didn't
    help us all that much if you look at how we finished.
    
    Charlie
1662.5got two good eyes but still can't see ...BOOKS::BAILEYBSmilin&#039; on a cloudy dayWed Feb 20 1991 14:189
    RE .4
    
    Yeah, we had 'em on Bo' for the Berringer this year too.  Lot of good
    they did us ... we got to use them to watch Claddagh and Wildside sail
    away from us while we were bobbing in a hole near the mark at Eastern
    Point.
    
    ... Bob
    
1662.6Commercial equip on subsSWAM2::HOMEYER_CHNo, but you can see it from hereWed Feb 20 1991 14:4915
    Last summer I was on a tour on the fast attack nuclear sub USS La Jolla
    in San Diego.  While on the bridge of the sub I noticed mounted
    overhead a Icom M55 VHF radio.  With all their world wide communication
    capability they needed a radio they could contact the pleasure boaters
    when entering harbors.  In close quarters and slow speeds a sub is
    extreemly difficult to maneuver on the surface.  While sailing off San
    Diego we have been overtaken many times by a sub and they are very
    difficult to spot on the surface as only the tower is above the water
    and they are doing 15-20kts.  They told me that when they are returning
    from sea that sailboats are their biggest problem of dectecting with
    their electronics unless they are motoring or playing a stereo, so they
    rely on their periscope before surfacing.  This gives me something to
    think about when night sailing around here. :-(
    
    Chuck
1662.7MSCSSE::BERENSAlan BerensWed May 22 1991 16:054
The discussion of GPS that was here has been moved to Note 452.

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