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| 1305.1 | self-tailing? used? | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Fri Aug 11 1989 10:41 | 8 |
| Yup. You ought to seriously consider self-tailing winches. More
expensive, but worth it. With self-tailers you can use both hands on the
winch handle or trim without putting down your sandwich. Unfortunately,
there are few small self-tailing winches around. The smallest I'm aware
of is the Barient 17 (one speed, about $300). A two speed Barient 21 is
about $460. You might also consider used winches. Bacon and Associates
in Annapolis is one seller of used winches.
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| 1305.2 | Marine Exchange | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Aug 11 1989 10:58 | 4 |
| Also Marine Exchange in Peobody. Great deals.
Dave
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| 1305.3 | Large Self Tailing Winches are Nice | GUIDUK::RADKE | | Fri Aug 11 1989 15:05 | 13 |
| The width of your combing need not restrict the width of the winch. I
have Barient 32STs on my boat which are slightly larger than the
combing top. A stainless steel bracket (which is difficult to describe
verbally) was fabricated to extend the width for the outermost bolt of
the winch. It looks fine and is as solid as a rock. With these large
winches my wife (medium build) has no problem single handing the boat
(43 feet LOD) or winching me up the mast.
There is no question in my mind that the extra cost of self tailing
winches is worth it.
Howard
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| 1305.4 | Enkes Winches | CSSE32::BLAISDELL | | Fri Aug 11 1989 17:30 | 10 |
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Widening combings by brackets or teak blocks is not uncommon, but also not
ideal. Before I bought my used C22, I was considering new and the new boats do
not have the nice winch mounting platform found on my boat. In my research on
winch upgrades, I discovered that Enkes (sp?) winches needed less space for
mounting than other brands. They had the only ST winch that met my needs and
fit onto the combing with no extensions.
- Bob
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| 1305.5 | Self-tailing -- right. Mounting? | DECWET::TARDIFF | It's all rock-and-roll to him. | Fri Aug 11 1989 18:41 | 18 |
| I was sold on self-tailing winches before I began this project. Nancy prefers
to use both hands to grind. She tried a self-tailer on another boat, and was
hooked. So self-tailing isn't an issue (although price still is, unless I hit
the lottery).
I guess I'm still thinking about the mounting. Short of fabricating a bracket
(or talking someone into doing it for me -- I'm not enormously imaginative
when it comes to clever methods of mounting), and assuming that I can find
a winch that fits the space I have (Lewmar makes a self-tailer that fits and
has a higher power ratio than the current winches), should I worry about the
old, unused-but-patched-with-epoxy holes weakening the mounting area, or will
my unclever-but-big-and-sturdy backing plate spread the load enough so the
patched holes aren't a factor? What would you do on *your* boat if you were
facing this situation? Granted, these are very specific questions that are
hard to answer, but you all did great on the first, more general question...
+ Michael
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| 1305.6 | Big plate | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Aug 11 1989 18:49 | 8 |
| Patching the holes with epoxy will not add any strength to the mounting
area anyway. Just patch them up for keeping water out of your boat.
Then put a big backing plate beneath. If it is under a coaming
you can make it asymmetrical with the longer part running fore and
aft since most of your load is also running the same way.
Dave
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| 1305.7 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Sat Aug 12 1989 12:32 | 5 |
| The reduction in strength, if any, from filling the old holes with epoxy
is negligible. The headsail sheet loads for a 25' boat aren't all that
great. If your backing plate is about the size of the winch or a bit
more, you should be fine.
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