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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:	SAILING
Notice:	Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:	UNIFIX::BERENS

Created:	Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:	Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2299
Total number of notes:	20724

1244.0. "Mariah 31 info needed" by DPDMAI::CLEVELAND (Grounded on The Rock) Mon Jun 12 1989 20:04

    I'm getting very close to putting an offer out on a 31' Mariah built
    by Pacific Seacraft. It's a double-ender, cutter rigged, and seems
    to be built like a tank. The folks at Pacific Seacraft tell me it's
    built every bit as well as their popular Crealock series. I've gone
    through the boat, noted my questions and have a surveyor lined up
    when the offer goes in.
    
    Question: Does anyone have any experience with this boat? It sails
    well and is extremely stable. Anyone know of little gotcha's to watch
    for, sailed on them and have general info, etc?
    
    I've re-read the note on looking over stuff before you buy and what
    to watch for...that's great for general stuff, now I'm looking for
    specifics. I will probably need to make my mind up reasonably quick
    so any info would be a tremendous help!!!
    
    Thanks,
    
    Robert

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1244.1	Pacific Seacraft ... FIRST RATE Co.	LDP::LANDAU	Dick: W1IBN - Its Been Nice	`Tue Jun 13 1989 10:26`	7
	I don't have any experience with the Mariah but I just sold a Pacific Seacraft FLICKA I owned for 5 years. It was a wonderful boat and Pacific Seacraft is a FIRST RATE company to deal with. ...Dick
1244.2	old memories	MSCSSE::BERENS	Alan Berens	`Tue Jun 13 1989 13:13`	11
	re .0: We looked at a Mariah 31 at the Newport Boat Show in 1978 or so. My memory is that it was a well-built boat with lots of (some optional) teak both inside and out. Further bits from semi-volatile memory: The boat wasn't in production all that long (which seems a little unusual for Pacific Seacraft) and the PHRF rating (which I don't recall exactly -- maybe one of the racer-types knows) indicates that it is a fairly slow boat (as might be expected from the full keel).
1244.3	more	MSCSSE::BERENS	Alan Berens	`Thu Jun 15 1989 14:18`	15
	re .0: I found some descriptive literature about the Mariah tucked away in my filing cabinet. The boat has a short (by modern standards) waterline length and a fairly heavy displacement (about 16 000 pounds). The resulting displacement/length ratio is almost 470 (very heavy and comparable with the Westsail 32). The sail area/displacement ratio is 14 something, indicating that you will need large sails for good light air performance. The boat should be unlikely to capsize as the capsize screening factor is 1.70 (over 2 and one should worry about offshore sailing -- see an old note). The hull shape is quite similar to the Westsail 32 -- double-ended and quite full forward. The option list was very long -- reasonable options would have increased the base price by over 25%. All in all very much like a Westsail 32.
1244.4	No early bird here!	DPDMAI::CLEVELAND	Grounded on The Rock	`Tue Jun 27 1989 00:37`	14
	Just when you think you've found the ship of your dreams, agonized over the financial investment and decided to go for it, someone else beats you by 20 minutes from another city! I think the Man Upstairs is telling me to be happy with my Kittiwake for awhile. Thanks for your input Alan. I also called Pacific Seacraft about the Mariah and they faxed me the original sales brochure with all the pertinant info. Great people at Pacific Seacraft... Very helpful and friendly. Kinda reminds me of the noters here!