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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1177.0. "Restrictive Anchoring Laws" by PBA::SCHLEGEL () Thu Apr 13 1989 12:46

 The following article was written In Forbes, March, 1989:
    
 "LarchmontYacht Club (heard the) irate voices of over 50 area yachtsmen
    gathered there one recent evening, furious over a new mooring
    regulation enacted by the village of Lloyd Harbor, N.Y., nearby on
    Long Island Sound.  The regulation requires nonresident sailors
    to pay the town a $100 fee to drop anchor in local waters for the
    night.  The charge for residents: only $15.00.  The yachtsmen's
    unhappiness is understandable, for such laws are now becoming common
    in coastal communities around the country........But instead of
    enacting laws that treat everyone fairly, many towns and villages
    are adopting restrictions that give favorable treatment to their
    own residents.  (It goes on to state that while Federal laws govern
    use of the waterways, task of maintaining facilites and anchorages
    has more and more fallen to municipalities.) "These, in turn, have
    begun to assert a questionable legal domain over the areas involved." 
    "What results from this is mean-spirited conflict regarding where
    private shore-front property actually becomes public waterways and
    thus available to navigation to anyone." 
    
    If this continues, it appears that cruising in long Island Sound
    will become too expensive for anyone!! 
    
    
       

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1177.1this has to be a jokeLDP::PARKERThu Apr 13 1989 13:409
    Seening as how it is not the 1st of April and this note is not from
    Alan my response is......$100 to anchor, not very likely! The town
    must wash the hook off after you use it and flake the rode down
    and come and get you in the launch and take you to town in the Rolls
    and charge  $200 for a mooring. 
    Is this for real?
    
    

1177.2No Joke, apparentlyPBA::SCHLEGELThu Apr 13 1989 13:568
    Re: .1
    
    According to page 74 of the March 6th issue of Forbes, it is!
    
    What hit home with me, is the fact that my son just bought a 34
    ft'r he is trying to get into Port Jeff. Where will he be able to
    cruise to?

1177.3some hopeMSCSSE::BERENSAlan BerensThu Apr 13 1989 14:049
Along the same lines, various Florida towns have been passing ordinances 
limiting how long one may anchor and/or prohibiting liveaboards. So far, 
these ordinances have not withstood legal challanges. But, the legal 
process is slow and expensive. In the New York area, I'd bet that there 
are many sailor/lawyers who will be delighted to file suit over such 
ordinances just for the fun of it. I wonder how much the town has 
allocated for extra legal fees.


1177.4he could always...LDP::PARKERThu Apr 13 1989 16:414
    He could always drop the hook behind the breakwater in New Haven,
    it's to far for anyone to come from shore to collect and maybe CT.
    hasn't caught the $$$bug yet.

1177.5"Safe Harbor"???CDR::SPENCERJohn SpencerThu Apr 13 1989 21:0121
Indirectly related:

Though I forget where it was first heard, I've understood that one can 
seek shelter *anywhere* -- legally --  when in trouble (potential danger) 
underway by declaring "Safe Harbor".  It was a while ago, but a scruffy 
bunch of Outward Bounders in a rugged and not exactly Bristol open pulling 
boat sailed into the Ocean Reef Club's harbor on Key Largo, FL before a
35-kt breeze one night.  (The Florida Marine Patrol many times mistook us
for Haitian refugees, till they began to recognize our distinctive
vessels!)  We were met by a guard, who called his cohorts over to kick
us out.  I declared "Safe Harbor", and they backed right off (instead
requesting that we not walk into the clubhouse, and that we leave in the
morning.) 

Whether it's law, or was just bluff, it worked in a place where they take 
their exclusivity seriously.  Anyone know if this really is a law?  Maybe 
it'd get you into one of those hotsy-totsy LI harbors overnight in a gale 
without having to pay the town troll.  ;-)

J.