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1085.1 | Ted Turner's advice | ECADSR::FINNERTY | | Sun Jan 01 1989 08:00 | 26 |
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btw, here's what Ted Turner has to say about steering:
"There are two schools of thought in steering: to keep
a dead helm, not steering at all, and to steer a lot.
The conditions determine which method to use. In
relatively steady wind and flat water, a boat has a
tendancy to slow down whenever you move the tiller, so
steering a lot is to be avoided. In choppy conditions,
however, you may find that you have to steer more to
maneuver the boat around the waves. Similarly, you
may have to steer more in puffy wind conditions."
"A perennial steering question is whether to drive (sailing
with the sails full) or to pinch (sailing with the sails
luffing). ... As a rule pinching is better in flat water
as long as the boat is kept on its lines. As the boat becomes
overpowered, play the sails, easin them out in the puffs.
In these conditions, keeptin the boat on its lines is the
most important factor in good steering. Playing the sails
and feathering (pinching) slightly will help do this. When
the waves are short and choppy, drive the boat to keep up
speed. In a chop, power in the sails should be well forward.
Steer around the waves so that your bow never goes into a
wave at a right angle."
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1085.2 | Avoid them? | ECADSR::FINNERTY | | Sun Jan 01 1989 08:14 | 14 |
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re: .0 and .1 "avoid them"
one clarification: I said that sometimes waves over the bow
cannot be avoided; that is, cannot be avoided without a major
course deviation of up to 45 degrees. Because waves are coming
from different directions and adding this wave may not form until
about 5 seconds before it meets the boat, and depending on the
current angular momentum of the boat this may require a drastic
helm action to truly avoid... a cure which I believe is worse
than the disease.
- Jim
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1085.3 | | ASABET::HO | | Tue Jan 03 1989 14:55 | 34 |
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Condition: Wind and waves aft of beam
Solution: Tighten your tiller. If there's any play in the steering,
you'll know about if fast. Both wind and waves want to push the
stern down and spin the bow up into the wind. There will be varying
amounts of weather helm peaking as the wave hits the stern. Anticipate
that this will happen and fall off slightly before the wave lifts
the stern. If fighting the wheel or tiller gets too fatiguing,
set a larger jib and reef or furl the main. If you're sailing low
enough, furl the main and set two jibs wing and wing. Or if you
have a spinnaker, set it. Trim/flatten/reef the main to neutralize
the helm and minimize rolling. Keep your head down. Rig a preventer.
Condition: Beating with big waves between 12:00 and 2:00.
Solution: Foot. Both windward and leeward telltales down. Draft
in main and jib forward and as full as the wind velocity will allow.
Keep the main leech tight and play the traveler to balance the helm.
Fall off when you see a big wave coming. Work back to weather in
the calmer spots. Tighten the rig before going out in these
conditions. The closer the waves are to 12:00, the more you should
consider being on the other tack. Even if you overstand your
destination a bit, it may be worth it to save the abuse on your
rig. Pich a calm spot when you have to tack.
Condition: Beating with waves at 3:00
Solution: Take dramanine and stay high (on the rhumbline). Distance
to weather has to be made on this tack. When you flop over, the
waves will be on the nose and it'll be necessary to foot.
- gene
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1085.4 | | SPIDER::FACHON | | Wed Jan 04 1989 12:38 | 35 |
| I tried to start a similar discussion in 1035, but
there was little interest. That you've gotten only
one reply suggests the same. I'm wondering why. Perhaps
it's because you've touched upon one of the more artistic
elements to handling a sailboat, helmsmanship, and the
touch therin required to steer a boat masterfully. I tend
to think that, especially in this aspect of sailing, you delve
into one of the most intimate and subjective interactions between
a sailor and his sailboat.
Certainly, pundits will argue that there are general
guidelines to helmsmanship -- some of which Gene touched upon.
But beneath the guidelines there is nothing but feel -- the
pressure coming through the helm to your hands and the motion of
the boat beneath you. And yes, the metaphor is intentional.
That's how attuned a good helmsman becomes to his/her boat. Within
this realm, there are myriads of techniques -- techniques that work
for some boats and not others. And the same goes for helmsmen.
Watching the waves is only a small part of helming
a boat. As they say when driving a car, let the vehicle be
an extension. The same goes quadruple for sailboats.
Yes, watch the waves. Upwind, steer up the face and down the back
of waves that will let you; downwind, steer away from a wave as
the bow drops and into the wave as it passes beneath and the
bow comes back up. But more importantly, feel the boat. She will
tell you when to let her find her own course and when to take
control. TBC...
Thank you Dr. Windbag!
Next caller please...
;)
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1085.5 | | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Jan 12 1989 11:37 | 5 |
| We find that an added incentive is to have the entire crew yell
"A--HOLE!" whenever the driver blows it.
Dave
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1085.6 | Another Approach | BPOV02::KEENAN | | Thu Jan 12 1989 11:59 | 14 |
| My basic technique is to head off going up the face of a
big wave, sail straight on the smaller ones, and always try the
shoot to windward going down the back face. The longer the waves,
the easier I find this to do.
This is the opposite of what others have mentioned here. And it
is opposite to what you would do to maintain a constant apparent
wind. But my feeling is that in strong winds you've got more
power than you need - so I don't worry if my apparent wind is
not optimum.
Do you big boat Marbleheaders find that the opposite works for
you?
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1085.7 | yelling isn't nice | BANYON::BERENS | Alan Berens | Thu Jan 12 1989 12:36 | 7 |
| re .5:
The added incentive may be to find another boat and skipper.
:-)
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1085.8 | Crash, splash, A--h.... | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Jan 12 1989 12:54 | 13 |
| Re -.1 Probably true.
Re -.2 I can't imagine how, in short seas you avoid pounding using
this method. By sailing higher after coming to the crest that puts
the boat more nearly perpendicular to the wave direction with less
of a chance to "slide down" the back face of the wave. In fact,
we find that the hardest thing is to keep a rythm that lets the
driver fall off on every wave. Every now and then he'll miss and
the boat falls off the wave with a pound that slows us measurably.
Does this not happen in the kind of boat you sail?
Dave
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1085.9 | | ASABET::HO | | Thu Jan 12 1989 13:54 | 16 |
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I've found .6 only works when the waves are long and smooth, both
front and back. Heading up on the backside of large square waves
puts too much air under the keel for my boat's long term health.
If the backside of a wave turns out to be smoother than expected,
I'll try to get a bit of distance to weather before heading up the
face of the next one.
In fact, when the waves are long and smooth my inclination is to
let the boat find the best path. Sometimes this results in an up
the frontside and down the backside motion and sometimes in just
the opposite. Whatever feels good on the fingertips of the helsmperson
usually works.
- gene
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1085.10 | Developing Feel... | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Thu Jan 12 1989 16:50 | 34 |
| The process of developing feel begins by making correlations between
the pressures exerted through the helm and the corresponding action
of the boat. In the beginning, the helmsman is a passive observer.
Yes, he/she steers the boat in a specific direction, but that steering
is largely mechanical -- unrelated to the changing pressures
transmitted by the boat through the helm.
With time, you will percieve correlations between wind variations
and pressure through the helm. For instance, you'll notice how
a sudden gust of wind adds weather helm (in most cases). As your
perception evolves, you will feel the difference between 1 knot
and 5 knots more breeze, and the entire spectrum above,
below, and in between. As you make correlations, you can begin to
respond to the helm based on feeling. When you've got the
feeling right, you can steer a straight course in variable winds
-- on a flat sea.
Learning the feel of the sea requires a similar process of making
correlations between what happens when a boat enters and/or exits
a given wave, and the pressures transmitted back to you. The spectrum
here is the variety of waves you encounter. Start by fighting
the waves to steer a straight course, then try letting the boat
follow its natural tendencies. Note the difference in the boat's
motion as well as the feel in the helm. The optimum response to
a wave generally lies between these extremes.
The final stage in developing feel is layering these two
fundemental types of feedback together -- for each point of
sail. It takes years to do this, but once you've done it
with one boat, it will be easier to do so with others.
Happy sailing (I can't wait!)
;)
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1085.11 | Exiting steep waves... | SPIDER::FACHON | | Fri Jan 13 1989 14:19 | 22 |
| Rep to Gene, Pual, and Dave on exiting waves
In note 1035.30, I desribed a techniqe that works
extremely well for exiting steep waves -- pumping the
helm to induce a rotational force to windward. In that
note, I failed to mention that I do not pump the helm
until after the bow is decending -- when depends
on how fast she's dropping. Because the wave is under
the stern, boyancy aft is increased and somwhat leveraged
to the lee side. Consequently, I think the pump channels
the momentum of the bow falling directly into the
leveraged boyancy aft and the two cancel each other out.
The hobby-horse motion is completely damped out and the
boat settles square in the trough as the wave clears the stern.
If you've never done this, give it a try. I think you'll
be surprised. As I mentioned in 1035.30, this technique
can't be used repeatedly. Although you loose little speed,
the boat needs to re-establish its rythm. Fortunately,
most waves can be dealt with more conventionally, storing
plenty of rythm for the periodic rogue.
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1085.12 | | BPOV04::KEENAN | | Fri Jan 20 1989 10:43 | 26 |
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Several people have mentioned the need to head-off and slide down the
backside of waves to avoid crashing. For big monster square waves, I
totally agree. I also agree that you must be flexible; adapt to the
wave size, shape, length, direction and your boats length, displacement,
and response. But for friendlier waves, I find that heading off
on the way up the wave keeps my boat moving faster because the
slope is shallower. I maintain this angle going over the crest to prevent a
crash, then as the crest moves aft and the boat accelerates downward,
I use the speed to windward by heading up. This carved turn usually takes place
in the last half of the wave's backside and is carried through the trough.
I think that most methods will depend largely on the boat itself. The
J-24 I sail is very light and quick. I think of it as a big dingy. I
was surprised by how similar the boat feels to my old Snipe. What
works well for this boat may not make sense for another.
This reminds me of something I heard about Dennis Conner as he
prepared for the Cup in Freementle. Since his origins were as a light air
sailor, one of his challenges was to master the timing needed
to tack properly in those huge waves.
Not too fast, not too slow, yeah that's the way to do it. ;)
-Paul
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