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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

891.0. "Info on Starret 45?" by P928S4::MCBRIDE () Fri Jul 08 1988 12:49

    Has anyone seen a finished Starret designed boat?  I have seen these
    advertised recently in several magazines available in various stages
    of completion.  The lowest priced kit starts at $7,995.00 for the
    basic hull and deck for the Starret 45.  They look like an old CCA
    type design.  Any info, comments?
    
    Brian

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891.1InfoLDP::PARKERMon Jul 11 1988 14:4610
    I believe these are a Charlie Morgan design. They used to be build
    in St.Petersburg Fla, home of Gulfstar, Irwin, Morgan, Watkins and
    about a dozen other mfgs. The hulls were nicely done and the finish
    work was done by the owner and therefore was as good as he was.
    This was about 5 to7 years ago and so the molds are that much older
    and the crew has more than likely changed as often as the tide.
    Take a ride to the site before you make a decision and understand
    that building the hull is the less timeconsuming part of building
    a boat. Also the less expensive.

891.2Morgan 45LDYBUG::FACHONTue Jul 12 1988 13:2321
    Yep, that's a Morgan design -- the old Morgan 45.
    CCA all the way.  Spent most of my youth cruising aboard one.  
    Full keel, heavy displacement, but moves very nicely,
    even in light air.  Hull speed was almost 9, and
    properly trimmed, they can do 6.5 to 7 knots at 30 degrees 
    apparent.  Only 12 or so built by Morgan before he sold 
    his first company to finance "Heritage," his unsuccessful
    America's Cup contender.
    
    When the boats were built by Morgan, they were
    very nicely finished -- very solid.  I never cared
    much for the Starrat incarnation, mostly because
    I saw too many hatchet jobs on a boat I very much
    love.  If you ever cruise Narragansett Bay, look
    for a white ketch named "Allez."  She is one elagant
    lady.  The rig is not original, but the rest is.
    Even the gel-coat.  


        

891.3What $8K buysEXPERT::SPENCERJohn SpencerMon Jul 18 1988 14:2416
I saw that ad, too, and chuckled.  It appears in one form or another every 
couple years.  Perhaps the molds are tired, or maybve just paid off.  
Anyway, for only $8K you probably can't expect to get much.  Corners may 
be cut in layup, thickness at key stress points, quality of resin 
(undoubtedly off-brand polyester at that price) and any number of things.  
For instance, you might have to pay them to put in temporary bulkheads 
just to cart the bare hull to your yard.

It's possible to do, and save plenty of bucks, but watch out for the 
gotchas, and recognize that first $8K provides a hull shape and little 
more!

J.

(If you do work from a bare hull sometime in the future, keep us posted.)