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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

685.0. "trailing rudder tab?" by RDF::RDF (Rick Fricchione) Tue Nov 03 1987 04:14

    Noticing a few boats that just got hauled, I can't help but wonder
    what the separately controllable tabs at the aft end of a rudder
    do.  Are these the trim controls that the inner wheel on a 12 meter
    controls?
    
    The rudder looks like this.
                     
    |   | Post
    +---+---------------+--+
    |                   |  | <--- There is a control arm which moves
    |                   |  |      this around, coming out from near
    |    Main           |  |      rudder post.
    |    Rudder         |  |
    |                   |  |
    |                   |  |
    |                   |  |
    |                   |  |
    +-------------------+--+
    
    Rick

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685.1One explanation?AYOU17::NAYLORTue Nov 03 1987 05:334
    Wind-vane autohelming?
    
    Brian

685.2another explanation?VLNVAX::FRENIERETue Nov 03 1987 09:087
    I think Brian's right. The wind vane does not have the torque to
    move the whole rudder so thru linkages it moves the vane enough
    to use the pressure of the water moving by to drive the rudder.
    I think thats the way it works....
    
    Don

685.3ok..butRDF::RDFRick FricchioneTue Nov 03 1987 13:488
    Yup, I did see a wind-vane autohelm setup.  It suprises me though,
    that you need a special rudder to use one.
    
    On my embarrassing 12 meter correlation:  What exactly do the trim
    tabs/inner wheel on a 12 meter do?
    
    Rick

685.4Tabs on trailing edge of keelSTAR::KENNEYTue Nov 03 1987 16:321
685.5windvanesMSCSSE::BERENSAlan BerensTue Nov 03 1987 21:5522
windvanes:

There are many different windvane designs with various performance 
characteristics. Some operate entirely independent of the boat's main 
rudder (eg, Sailomat), some operate in conjunction with the boat's main 
rudder. All modern vanes capable of steering large boats use a servo 
mechanism to develop enough power to steer the boat. An example is a 
trim tab on the trailing edge of the main rudder. The tab is easy to 
rotate because it is small. The sideways force on the trim tab is enough 
to turn the main rudder. More sophisticated vanes (servo pendulum 
designs such as the Monitor, Aries, and Fleming) are capable of steering 
quite large boats in really bad weather (eg, a Monitor steered a Valiant 
47 during most of the last BOC). 

There are several excellent books about windvanes. An excellent source 
of advice and vanes from different manufacturers is Scanmar Marine 
Products in California. Scanmar is run by two fellows who circumnavigated 
some years ago. We bought our Monitor vane from them. 

Alan