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684.1 | mixed feelings | PULSAR::BERENS | Alan Berens | Mon Nov 02 1987 13:15 | 17 |
| I have very mixed emotions about Tania Aebi. I admire her for doing what
she has done. Offshore sailing, especially alone, is at times frightening
and grueling. To circumnavigate on a Contessa 26 is a remarkable
achievement.
On the other hand, I am quite taken aback by her at times apparent lack
of maturity, her not always careful seamanship, and her lack of the
basic skills needed to maintain a boat in seaworthy condition. By the
time she was knocked down in the Med she certainly should have known
enough to be more careful, tired or not. Somehow I keep thinking that
she has been very favored by the gods of the ocean.
In printing her articles I have the feeling that Cruising World is in a
sense condoning poor seamanship and planning, or at least is excusing
Tania because of her youth. Would Cruising World have printed the
articles if a middle aged (fe)male had written them?
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684.2 | Admiration & Amazement | CTOAVX::WOCHE | | Mon Nov 02 1987 16:47 | 21 |
| I agree with "mixed feelings" about Tania Aebi. I admire her enthusiasm
but also agree that after 2+ years at sea she should have been better
prepared. I know that after many weeks at sea there is a tendency
to get careless but if there's one thing I have learned from sailing
is that you need to take deliberate precautions so as not to be
caught off guard.
Cruising World not only seems to be condoning poor seamanship but
also ENCOURAGING other unseasoned sailors to take similiar chances.
Earlier in her voyage I remember reading many editorials in CW from
outraged parents who couldn't believe that Tania's father would
allow such a trip for his daughter. Although I disagreed with many
of them, it does seem that he would have instilled caution and safety
in his daughter before she left. I suppose that at 20 years, however,
she should have enough "boat smarts" to avoid such problems without
dad leading her by the hand.
All things aside, boating provides an education that no learning
institution can provide. Will Tania make the grade?
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684.3 | Live & Learn | JUNIOR::CARRERA | Joe Carrera | Mon Nov 02 1987 17:00 | 7 |
| If I remember correctly, Tania's boat was knocked down in the Indian
Ocean earlier in her circumnavigation. I would have expected her
to learn from that particular experience and be better prepared
for another like (or worse) experience. We all should learn from
our own and others experiences.
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684.4 | Like Father, like ... | BCSE::SUITS | | Thu Nov 05 1987 11:59 | 5 |
| ... and if *I* remember correctly, her father didn't know much (if
anything) about sailing when he flew the whole family over to Europe,
boarded a 40+ foot something they had just bought, and sailed back to
New York. He's an artist.
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684.5 | New York, 6-Nov-87 | DFLAT::DICKSON | Network Design tools | Mon Nov 09 1987 09:23 | 36 |
| Well, she's back. She arrived in New York on Friday (6-Nov) and got a brief
mention on the evening news. Also I found an article in the Saturday Boston
Globe. A few snippets:
1) She doesn't get a record for youngest person or first woman to solo
around the world, because she carried a passenger for 80 miles in the South
Pacific. (At least when Robin Graham did his trip, he would double back
to make sure every forward mile was traversed single-handed.)
2) One report referred to her as a "rebellious teenager". She was "unhappy
with formal schooling" (just graduated from high school, remember?) and
her father offered her money for college OR the boat, with the condition
that she sail it around the world. Tania's last job before this trip was
as a bicycle messenger in New York.
3) WCVB said that she did not get the real hang of navigation until she
reached the Galapagos. (Natalie Jacobson pronounced it GAH-lah-PAH-gos.)
4) She said in an interview that she completed the trip through "dumb luck".
(I didn't see the interview. I just heard it reported. Anybody actually
hear her talk? The networks did not give the story much time on Friday.)
I dunno, maybe sailing around the world isn't as difficult as it used to
be.
I did check back in the CW story about the knockdown, and she did say she
was extremely tired due to lack of sleep, having to constantly change sails
and watch out for shipping in the crowded Med.
"Thinking back, my mistake was the bare poled bit. Had I had
my wits about me, I would have set a small jib, or had conditions
worsened, I should have heaved to. Fatigue is the sailor's enemy."
This is probably the most dangerous aspect of single handed sailing. "Yes,
I'd do it again," she said. "But probably not alone."
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684.6 | not the first woman | PULSAR::BERENS | Alan Berens | Mon Nov 09 1987 10:51 | 10 |
| re .1:
>>> 1) She doesn't get a record for youngest person or first woman to solo
around the world, because she carried a passenger for 80 miles in the South
Pacific.
Naomi James circumnavigated singlehanded and nonstop (as I recall) some
years ago and wrote an excellent book about her experiences.
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684.7 | | DFLAT::DICKSON | Network Design tools | Mon Nov 09 1987 11:07 | 3 |
| This is what comes of listening to press reports. Chet on WCVB said she
would have been the first. I was surprised.
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684.8 | | GRAMPS::WCLARK | Walt Clark | Mon Nov 09 1987 12:48 | 7 |
| Despite the folks who think she was crazy, I say more power to her!
Good goin' Tania, and welcome home!
Walt
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684.9 | It was a great effort! | CTOAVX::GERMAIN | | Mon Nov 09 1987 16:04 | 15 |
| I agree with Walt! I am impressed with her achievment. I toy with
the idea, but haven't seriously considered it. So what if she wasn't
academically inclined.
And who among us could say we have ALWAYS learned from our mistakes?
I admit that a knockdown is serious business, and that it might
be the wrong mistake NOT to learn from. But that's the way it is.
I bet she is a better stronger person for the experience. I am willing
to learn from other people's experiences,and point out that which
I would try not to do in similar situations, but I won't let that
detract from her achievment.
Gregg Germain
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684.10 | Goals accomplished | CAMELS::MCGARRY | | Mon Nov 09 1987 16:25 | 8 |
|
I think it was a great achievement. Who among us can
drop everything and just leave for two to three
years and sail around the world? I enjoyed reading
about her adventures and hope Cruising World has
more articles about people who do challenging things.
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684.11 | | DSSDEV::JROBINSON | | Tue Nov 10 1987 11:34 | 5 |
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If I were just out of high school and my father bought me
a sailboat, I might be able to just leave for two or
three years.
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684.12 | | JUNIOR::CARRERA | Joe Carrera | Wed Nov 11 1987 08:20 | 7 |
| Personally, I do not want to lose sight of her willingness to "do"
instead of "talk". Although there are some things we all may/would
have done differently, her accomplishment speaks for itself. I have
a great deal of admiration for her. I think the message from the
boating community to her should be "well done, and welcome home".
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684.13 | She definitely shouldn't go on TV! | GROCHO::MOODY | The GRAND adventure continues... | Wed Nov 11 1987 17:03 | 12 |
| > I think the message from the boating community to her should be
> "well done, and welcome home".
I saw here on Dave L. latenight last evening! Prior to interview I would
have agreed with the above statement, now I'd say "Boy, are you lucky!".
Her attitude is "White American Smart... Princess". I just hope
she has enough concience to not encourage others! In my opinion she didn't
learn a thing, and from what I saw, she sure didn't mature much.
Then again, I'm an opinionated SOB anyway....
Greg
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684.14 | just a comment on the negativity | TALLIS::RICKARD | | Fri Dec 04 1987 11:11 | 19 |
| It was nice to read some positive replies in this topic after a
very negative start. Tania chose to sail around the world for reasons
all her own. She completed her voyage. Maybe she learned something
and maybe she didn't. Maybe she matured and maybe she didn't.
Sure she made mistakes but don't we all? Even Naomi James, who
I respect a great deal, didn't learn to navigate until she almost
ran into Africa; had it not been for Rob James who was racing ahead
of her in the Fastnet and communicating with her daily, she could have
had some real problems getting home.
So, who are we to judge another's accomplishment? If I can
learn something from that person's feat then I can grow. I can
learn from mistakes as well as the accomplishment itself. Anyone
attempting a similar adventure does so of his or her own choice.
Tania's articles and tv interviews may provide information to
other individuals interested in making a similar voyage, but the
ultimate choice to begin such a trip is left up to the individual.
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684.15 | Chew well, then swallow... | GALAGR::MOODY | The GRAND adventure continues... | Wed Dec 09 1987 15:29 | 45 |
| mumble...hamble...ramble (It's hard to talk around the humble
pie I'm eating....)
re: .14
You are right! Opinions, and observations are personal and esoteric.
I guess I had my parent hat on too tight. The biggest fear I have is
my (darling) daughters (19 and 17) going into something so
ill-prepared that it will get them killed or maimed. They generally
get only "Go for it.." from thier peers, and "you don't know what
you're getting into" from adults (and parents).
Strange coincidence... My 19 year old came to me and said "Dad,
I want to go hiking around Australia for a year. What do you think?"
My first reaction was "I don't think that is very smart, without a lot
of study and preperation. Have you really thought this out. You
ought to wait til you are older. You ought to finish college first."
THEN the next day I remembered that
a) I got married at 19 (when everyone said "You'll never make it.")
b) We had her (my oldest) at 20 (when everyone said "Are you nuts!")
c) I really didn't know what I was getting into, BUT I LEARNED QUICK.
d) We did make it (20 year wedding anniversary was last summer)
e) We have had a good and happy life. (gray hairs from teenagers
excluded...)
e) We aren't nuts (what nervous twitch?...)
f) You have to live your life for yourself and your mate, not others.
g) Caution comes from experience, not via advice.
So I swallowed the humble pie, gave her a list of everything I
could think of she should do to prepare, got her an AT&T international
credit card for emergency calls, offered to drive her to the
airport, or harbor, or train station, and said "Its your life have
fun, but CALL WHEN YOU GET THERE!" (once a parent...always a parent).
So I apologise for my tone, the opinions expressed were mine and
mine alone (and those I REFUSE to apologise for), but she does deserve
the credit for "DAMN, You actually did it! Congratulations."
Greg
PS - My daughter decided (on her own!!) to finish school THEN
go on a walkabout. (maybe I can stop worrying about her now,
if only her sister were ....)
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684.16 | That's all right...Tania. | SLUGER::KREBS | | Tue Dec 15 1987 16:26 | 16 |
|
I was envious when I first read about Tania's voyage, but I supported
her endeavor and was eager to learn that she was successful. I
think that her seeming flippancy about many things may not have
been real. Sometimes our own feelings of inadequacy and fear and
lonliness etc. are expressed in strange ways. I remember when I
was twenty, ready to take the bull by the horns, believing that
I believed I could do anything--if I had a boat then, I very well
might have done the same thing. I do intend to sail around the
world in a few years. I hope I have as much luck and courage as
Tania. I've finally got the boat. One things for sure--she did
do something that most of us don't have the courage to do and many
of us don't have the time to do. There are, however, some of us
who will make the time, if we have enough courage.
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684.17 | The sound of an anchor being swallowed. | EXPERT::SPENCER | John Spencer | Fri Aug 12 1988 15:02 | 10 |
| From the just-received ad issue of Soundings:
(RI) JJ TAYLOR SLOOP CONTESSA 26 "Varuna", Canadian built "around the
world" cruiser. 6 sails, Monitor self steering, Autohelm 1000, RDF, VHF,
DS, 8hp Bukh inboard and boat recently overhauled. Very good condition,
many spares and extras, fully equipped to go anywhere, $25,000./OBO. Call
anytime (401)846-7664.
J.
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684.18 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Mon Aug 15 1988 13:07 | 5 |
| re .17:
Yes, but she and Oliver Somebody_or_Other are getting married. Perhaps
they'll continue cruising on his boat.
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684.19 | "maiden voyage" | AITG::COUTURE | Abandon shore | Mon Nov 06 1989 12:40 | 4 |
| Has anyone read Tania's book, "Maiden Voyage," or something like that?
I read excerpts in Cruising World that sounded interesting, but I
trust the noters more than the reviewers.
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684.20 | Ok but not great | STAR::KENNEY | | Mon Nov 06 1989 13:27 | 9 |
| I read the book it is not bad but it depends upon what you are looking
for. After finishing it I wish I had checked it out of the library
rather than buying it. I had just finished Dodge Morgans book and I
preferred it. Neither book is heavy reading each took a less than 8
hours to finish.
Forrest
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684.21 | Maiden Voyage | DECWET::TARDIFF | It's all rock-and-roll to him. | Mon Nov 06 1989 17:50 | 14 |
| Re .19:
I read the book and enjoyed it, although I agree with .20 that it wasn't
a masterwork. The excerpt in Cruising World was somewhat different --
better, actually -- than the corresponding chapters in the book, and that
tells the story; the book could have been better edited. The story moves
well until Tania falls in love and heads up the Suez; I get the impression
that at that point in the voyage/writing of the book she lost interest and
just wanted to get it over with.
I read the book in one sitting, so it was absorbing enough to hold my
attention. I walked away agreeing with Alan Beren's (I think it was him)
comment about Tania -- she's damned lucky to be alive.
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684.22 | Tania's talk | NAS007::WINTERS | | Sun Mar 17 1991 09:38 | 22 |
| I attended her Cruising World talk in Boston a few weeks ago. She's a
charming speaker and it was an enjoyable evening. A couple notes:
o she did some blue water cruising with her dad before her trip - from
the publicity I had assumed she had no experience.
o her problems with her engine made the addition of a solar panel
paramount for her.
o her near collision with a freighter was avoided for the most part by
her little boat surfing on the freighter's bow wave!
o she's now got her delivery license. [Enjoying her talk and letting
her deliver my boat somewhere are two entirely different matters!]
o she's now got "a bun in the oven" (her words).
o she'd recommend "oh, at least a 32' boat" to anyone wanting to
repeat her experience, but wouldn't go bigger than 34'.
-gayn
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