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Title:How to Make them Goodies
Notice:Please Don't Start New Notes for Old Topics! Check 5.*
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Created:Tue Feb 18 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4127
Total number of notes:31160

1396.0. "Lobster Size" by FSTTOO::CICCARELLI () Tue Sep 27 1988 16:20

To all you lobster fans out there I am looking for you help and inputs on the 
following topics:
	* What the ratio of edible lobster meat to the total weight of the 
	  lobster?

	* Is the ratio a "constant" regardless of the size of the lobster?

I have watched many cooking shows and read many cookbook and there appears to be
a great deal of controversy on this subject. I realize this is a highly 
controversial topic dependent upon how much time and effort you want to expend 
in order to obtain all those succulent jewels which might otherwise be 
discarded.

I am looking for candid inputs on this matter regardless of whether or not you 
scavage the lobster or take the easy way out and use only the claws, knuckles 
and tail. I realize whichever way you go impacts the "edible meat to total 
weight ratio". However I believe our contributors to this conference would be 
interested in sharing all points of view on this subject.

Denis...


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1396.1You might find more info here...HOONOO::PESENTIJPWed Sep 28 1988 08:1818
Here is a quick list of existing lobster notes (DIR/TITLE=LOBSTER):

  28  DREAMS::SIART         6-SEP-1984     0  SHRIMP WITH LOBSTER SAUCE
 144    BRAT::PORELL       25-JUN-1985     3  baked stuffed lobster 
 376  MRMFG1::A_PEIRANO    15-OCT-1986     5  Lobster Bisque???
 534  BAGELS::LANE          1-MAR-1987    10  Baked Stuffed Lobsters!!!
 690  FRSBEE::GIUNTA       26-AUG-1987     6  Freezing uncooked lobster
1272  RUTLND::HANLEY       18-JUL-1988     3  lobster newburg
1301  SQUEKE::BIGGS        31-JUL-1988    19  Microwave Lobster?
1392  EMASA2::DREIER       26-SEP-1988     0  Wanted-Lobster Casserole

and, by the way, the bigger the lobster, the more meat you get, 
proportionally.  Most recipes tell you to overcook a large lobster, so most 
people will tell you the meat is tough.  This is not the case if you cut the 
cooking time way down.

						     
							- JP
1396.2Isn't nature wonderful?CECV03::SADLERAndy Sadler, BUO/E10, 249-4416Wed Sep 28 1988 19:3232
    
    I haven't cooked enough lobsters to be able to give a ratio, but
    my knowledge of the anatomy and life cycle of lobsters (and crabs)
    would indicate that this is *not* a constant ratio.
    
    Two of the major reasons:
    
    1. There is an 'overhead' in the construction of the lobster. Some
    pieces contain no usable meat, and they are present in all lobsters.
    However, these parts represent a smaller fraction of a large lobster
    than a small one, so a large lobster will contain a larger proportion
    of usable meat than a small one.  So I agree with -.1 in general
    except that:
    
    2. Lobsters shed their shell from time to time. This happens when
    the existing shell, which is rigid and cannot expand, gets 'full'.
    At this stage, a new 'soft' shell is formed under the old one and
    the old one is shed. The new shell is 'pumped up' with water to
    expand it, and then it hardens. The 'pumping up' allows some space
    inside the new shell to allow for future growth. The upshot of all
    this is that a lobster (or crab) which is just about to shed its
    shell will be 'denser' than one which has just shed it ( they will
    have the same weight of meat but the second one will be bigger).
    So in this one special case the bigger lobster will contain a *smaller*
    proportion of meat.
    
    
    
    The only real way to gauge the likely contents is to feel the weight!
    
    Andy
  
1396.3I don't think there's a constant eitherPSTJTT::TABERAnswer hazy -- ask again laterThu Sep 29 1988 11:035
The old Yankees also say that lobster varies in density depending on 
water temperature.  I can't remember which way they say it goes, though 
I'd imagine it's shrink when cold, expand when warm (old Yankees think 
60� is warm, by the way.)
					>>>==>PStJTT
1396.4the elusive SHEDDERS' meat to shell ratioCIVIC::WINBERGThu Sep 29 1988 17:0013
    The questions you raised are _perfect_ for controversey, because
    there _literally_ are almost as many answers as there are lobsters.
    
    As you probably know, lobsters shed their shells frequently throughout
    their lifetime.  As they reach their maximum size inside the shell,
    the ratio of lobster to shell is high (as their edible flesh has
    fully filled the shell); at various stages of their development,
    their shells are less hard and less well filled out -- at that time,
    the ratio is lower.
    
    Because they shed, and because the shell varies in weight/hardness
    throughout the growth and shedding process, there's really no reliable
    ratio of edible meat to weight.
1396.5exDROO::WEYMOUTHAI SELECT Business Development MgrFri Sep 30 1988 09:1214
    My experience over the years (I grew up doing lobster bakes with
    my dad and one of his friends) is that the only reason large lobsters
    are tough is that in order to cook the inside of the meat, the outside
    is over-cooked.
    
    In general, though, you will find more meat per pound with the ability
    to cokk throughout without inconsistent done-ness if you stick to
    1 1/2 to 3 1/2 pounders. Those 3 1/2 pounders are still pretty big
    mothers, though.
    
    Yes, I am back and editing the cookbook again - maybe I'll be done
    sometime in the next 50 years.
    
    Don
1396.6ah, check that scaleSALEM::MEDVECKYFri Sep 30 1988 14:0112
    RE.0.....may I ask WHY these questions are being asked....I mean,
    does it REALLY matter if a 1 1/4 lb lobster containes 14.5 or 14.8
    ounces of meat?
    
    What I do is this....and Im going to do it tonight....if the lobsters
    Im buying (chickens) look on the small side, Ill buy THREE....that
    way I know Ill get "enough" to satisfy myself.....
    
    Happy crackin
    
    Rick
    
1396.72 pounds is perfect for 1 personMYVAX::LUBYDTN 287-3204Fri Sep 30 1988 17:028
    
    
    	I personally find that a 2 pound lobster, with some steamers,
    	and some tossed salad is enough to satisfy me!!  Yes, I can
    	outeat some of the men that I know but hey!  Gotta love high
    	metabolism!!!!
    
    	Karen
1396.8TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceSun Nov 27 1988 22:2610
    RE: .2
    
        
>    The only real way to gauge the likely contents is to feel the weight!

    But is this likely to be true if you buy a lobster that has just
    moulted and his pumped-up shell is partially filled with water?
    It sounds like your buying a lot of seawater at lobster prices.