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Title: Soccer Football Conference
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Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
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337.0. "Scottish Cup 1993/94" by KIRKTN::AMILLAR (And some late news just in...) Mon Jan 10 1994 09:39

    
    This topic is for notes relating to the Scottish Cup for season
    1993/94. 
    
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337.13rd Round DrawKIRKTN::AMILLARAnd some late news just in...Mon Jan 10 1994 09:5538
    
    3rd Round Draw, to be played 29th January
    
    Airdrie             v  Dunfermline
    
    Albion Rovers/
    Huntly or Stranraer v  Falkirk
    
    Alloa or Gala       v  Ross County
    
    Clydebank           v  Dundee
    
    East Stirling       v  Aberdeen
    
    Hibernian           v  Clyde
    
    Kilmarnock          v  Ayr United
    
    Morton              v  Cowdenbeath or Stenhousemuir
    
    Motherwell          v  Celtic
    
    Partick Th          v  Hearts
    
    Raith Rovers        v  Brechin City
    
    Rangers             v  Dumbarton
    
    St Johnstone        v  Hamilton
    
    St Mirren           v  Montrose
    
    Selkirk or Arbroath v  Dundee United
    
    Stirling Albion     v  Berwick Rangers
    
    
             
337.2Results for 3rd RoundPAKORA::AMILLARAnd some late news just in...Sat Jan 29 1994 17:2035
    
    3rd Round Results                            
    
    Airdrie            1   Dunfermline     1
                                            
    Alloa               v  Ross County     Off
    
    Arbroath           2   Dundee United   3
    
    Clydebank          1   Dundee          1
    
    East Stirling       v  Aberdeen        Off
    
    Hibernian          2   Clyde           1
    
    Kilmarnock         2   Ayr United      1
    
    Morton             0   Cowdenbeath     2                 
    
    Motherwell         1   Celtic          0
    
    Partick Th         0   Hearts          1
    
    Raith Rovers       2   Brechin City    0 (Easy...Easy....)
    
    Rangers            4   Dumbarton       1
    
    St Johnstone       2   Hamilton        0
    
    St Mirren          2   Montrose        0
    
    Stirling Albion    1   Berwick Rangers 0
    
    Stranraer          2   Falkirk         1
             
337.3HEARTS FOR THE CUP.KIRKTN::JCRONINNine BelliesSat Jan 29 1994 18:102
    What is the draw for the next round of the cup?
    FERRY JAMBO.
337.4Scottish cup update.KIRKTN::JADAMSWed Feb 09 1994 04:4335
    
    	Tonights cup results;
    
    
    		Dunfermline 1 Airdrie 3
    
    		East Stirlingshire 0 Aberdeen 3?
    
    		Alloa 2 Ross County 0
    
    		Cowdenbeath 1 Morton 2 (Contrary to Archie's note a couple
    back, Morton didn't lose the first game 2-0, they actually scored twice
    in the last two minutes to force the replay)
    
    	Only tie still to be decided tonight is the rematch on neutral 
    ground between Clydebank and Dundee (after the boxing match in the first
    game). Heard on the radio that there's only going to be 300 Clydebank
    and 450 Dundee supporters at the game due to the stringent procedures
    put in place regarding the purchasing of tickets for the game (even
    though the SFA - which of course as we all know stands for what Jim
    Farry and his chums know about football - decreed that 750 of each
    side could attend).
    	Some of the 4th round ties;
    
    		Hibs v Hearts                   Dundee Utd v Motherwell
    		Raith Rovers v Aberdeen         Rangers v Alloa Ath.
    		Morton v Kilmarnock            
    And then this is when it all starts to go hazy.
    		Stranraer v Airdrie              
    		St. Johnstone v Stirling Albion
    		Dundee/Clydebank v St. Mirren
    	Being played on Sat 19th Feb (apart from Hibs v Hearts which is
    live on BBC1 on the Sunday).
                                             
                       
337.5The replay is at Kirkcaldy 8-))MASALA::AMILLARAnd some late news just in...Fri Feb 11 1994 14:446
    
    Well, since John corrected me, I'll correct him.....
    
    It's actually   Aberdeen -v- Raith Rovers  ie at Aberdeen
    
    Archie
337.6Fourth Round ResultsKIRKTN::AMILLARAnd some late news just in...Sat Feb 19 1994 21:4515
    
    Results from the 4th Round  Saturday 19th Feb
    
    Aberdeen          1  Raith Rovers          0
    Airdrie           1  Stranraer             0
    Dundee Utd        2  Motherwell            2
    Morton            0  Kilmarnock            1
    Rangers           6  Alloa                 0
    
    St Johnstone -v- Stirling Albion   Postponed
    
    Playing Sunday 20th
    Hibernian   -v-  Hearts
    Dundee      -v-  St Mirren
    
337.7All Dundee final loomingKIRKTN::AMILLARAnd some late news just in...Sun Feb 20 1994 21:0214
    
    Sunday's games:-
    
    Dundee       3  St Mirren    1
    Hibernian    1  Hearts       2
    
    And the draw for the quarter finals:-
    
    Kilmarnock   -v-  Dundee
    Airdrie      -v-  Dundee United or Motherwell
    Rangers      -v-  Hearts
    St Johnstone
    or Stirling  -v-  Aberdeen
    
337.8Replay at StirlingKIRKTN::AMILLARAnd some late news just in....Tue Mar 01 1994 07:059
    
    Result
    
    St Johnstone   3 Stirling Albion  3
    
    (Premier St Johnstone equalised with seconds to go)
    
    Replay is tomorrow night (Wednesday)
    
337.9replayKIRKTN::AMILLARAnd some late news just in....Wed Mar 02 1994 07:385
    
    Replay
    
    Motherwell  0  Dundee United  1
    
337.10Update, before QuartersKURMA::AMILLARAnd some late news just in....Wed Mar 09 1994 20:2612
    
    Last week's replay
    
    Stirling Albion  0  St Johnstone  2
    
    Revised Draw (Games being played this Saturday)
    
    Airdrie      -v-    Dundee United
    Kilmarnock   -v-    Dundee
    Rangers      -v-    Hearts
    St Johnstone -v-    Aberdeen
    
337.11Quarter Final ResultsKIRKTN::AMILLARAnd some late news just in....Mon Mar 14 1994 12:4716
    
    Results
    
    Airdrie          0 Dundee United   0
    Kilmarnock       1 Dundee          0
    Rangers          2 Hearts          0
    St Johnstone     1 Aberdeen        1
    
    Semi Final Draw
    Kilmarnock  -v- Rangers
    
    Airdrie or        St Johnstone or
    Dundee United -v- Aberdeen
    
    dates and venues to be announced today (Monday)
    
337.12VenuesKIRKTN::AMILLARAnd some late news just in....Tue Mar 15 1994 08:139
    
    Both Semi Finals will be played at Hampden Park.
    
    Airdrie/Dundee Utd  -v- St Johnstone/Aberdeen   9th April
    (Both replays tonight[Tuesday], BTW)
    
    Kilmarnock -v- Rangers  10th April
    
    
337.13The long road to GlasgowKIRKTN::AMILLARAnd some late news just in....Wed Mar 16 1994 07:067
    
    replays:-
    
    Aberdeen        2  St Johnstone  0
    Dundee United   2  Airdrie       0
    
    
337.14Rangers/United FinalPAKORA::AMILLARAnd some late news just in....Sat Apr 16 1994 12:2212
    
    Semi Final Update
    
    Aberdeen    1  Dundee United  1
    Replay:-
    Aberdeen    0  Dundee United  1
    
    
    Kilmarnock  0  Rangers        0
    Replay:-
    Kilmarnock  1  Rangers        2
    
337.15UNITED,UNITEDAYOV16::IREIDChoppers The TimTue Nov 22 1994 10:0311

	Final Score from Hampden:

	Dundee Utd 	1

	Rangers		0

Utd make it seventh time lucky.

 CTT
337.16UTRTSC::WARDTue Nov 22 1994 10:332
    Some late news obviously ..   That must have been some celebration
    party you attended ..
337.17Scottish Cup Second RoundMASALA::AMILLARFilms Process Response TeamSun Jan 08 1995 21:4018
    
    Please treat this as the home for info regarding the 1994/95 Scottish
    Cup.
    
    Tennents Scottish Cup Second round
    
    Alloa          2-3 Ross County
    Brechin City   2-3 Stirling Albion
    Buckie Thistle 1-3 Berwick Rangers
    Burntisland    6-2 St Cuthberts
    Cove Rangers   2-1 Cowdenbeath
    Forfar Ath     0-1 Meadowbank
    Gala Fairydean 2-6 East Fife
    Keith          2-2 Huntly
    Queen of South 0-2 Clyde
    Stenhousemuir  4-0 Arbroath
    Whitehill      0-0 Montrose
    
337.18To be played 28th JanuaryMASALA::AMILLARFilms Process Response TeamSun Jan 08 1995 21:4637
    
    Scottish Cup Third Round Draw
    
    	Clydebank    -v-   Hearts
    
    Whitehill or
           Montrose  -v-   Hibernian
    
           Hamilton  -v-   Rangers
    
        Meadowbank   -v-   Berwick Rangers
    
           Falkirk   -v-   Motherwell
    
      Cove Rangers   -v-   Dunfermline Athletic
    
      Stirling Alb   -v-   Airdrie
    
      Raith Rovers   -v-   Ayr United
    
      Dundee United  -v-   Clyde
    
            Dundee   -v-   Partick Thistle
    
      St Johnstone   -v-   Stenhousemuir
    
    Keith or Huntly  -v-   Burntisland Shipyard
    
            Celtic   -v-   St Mirren
    
          East Fife  -v-   Ross County
    
          Aberdeen   -v-   Stranraer
    
         Kilmarnock  -v-   Queen's Park or Morton
    
    
337.19I think !MASALA::JJACKSat Jan 28 1995 19:5621
    
    Celtic.........2  St.Mirren.......0
    Montrose.......0  Hibernian.......2
    Dundee U.......0  Clyde...........0
    Aberdeen.......1  Stranraer.......0
    Huntly.........7  Burntisland.....0
    Raith R........1  Ayr United......0
    Cove Rangers...0  Dunfermline.....4
    
    Postponed matches & replays due Monday/Tuesday & Wednesday of next
    week. Dundee play Partick Thistle at Dens tomorrow.
    
    4th Round draw highlights.............
    
    Celtic v Meadowbank or Berwick
    Hibs   v Falkirk or Motherwell
    Huntly v Dundee United or Clyde
    Clydebank or Hearts  v Hamilton or Rangers
    Dundee or Partick v Raith Rovers
    
    
337.20WORK NOT REST PARTY.MASALA::GBRUCESat Jan 28 1995 20:535
    JJ,
    Away you and do a bit for that OTT wage you get,not for being a
    Fitba journo.
    
    Gordon'company head on the night'Mickeymouseky. 
337.21They tell me you get carried.MASALA::JCRONINThe CrowSun Jan 29 1995 14:426
    Hi Gordon,
              Are you on the Drink or something,You've been writing some
    pish in this conference.
    
    Ferry Jambo
    
337.22Quarter FinalsMASALA::CGALLAGHERREMEMBER...log out, JJ's aboutMon Feb 20 1995 09:1212
    
    
    The draw for the quarter finals is:-
    
    Celtic	v 	Kilmarnock
    Raith	v	Airdie
    Stenhous'mr v	Hibs
    Hearts or   v 	Dundee Utd
    Rangers
    
    Colm.
    
337.23KIRKTN::GPIKELinlithgow Rose (magic team)Mon Feb 20 1995 23:3023
    
    
    Semi_final line up 
    
    Kilmarnock v Stenhousemuir
    
    Hearts     v Raith
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    p.s. this is only a prediction although don't be surprised if it's
    true.
    
    What who said it's fixed. 
337.24We'll see who's closest Gordon, A Mars bar on it ?KIRKTN::JJACKTue Feb 21 1995 07:1511
    
    Have you been at the Solvent deck Gordon ?
    
    Try this.........
    
    Celtic
    Hibs
    Dundee U
    Raith
    
    
337.25Bring on the Hearts, the Hibs, the Airdrie!AYOV16::IREIDOur day will come......April 7thTue Mar 21 1995 16:0814
    
    Unlucky JJ, 
    
    Hearts v Airdrie	April 8th  2pm KO
    
    Celtic v Hibs	April 7th  7.30pm KO
    
    
    
    What date is the final?
    
    Hopefully Celtic v anybody!
    
    Choppers
337.26AYOV27::FW_TEMP01John Hussey - Dunure's greatTue Mar 21 1995 16:355
SFA Cup Final is 27 May

English FA Cup FInal is 20 May.  Fortunately, the Anchorage in Dunure can
receive BBC Northern Ireland so I can watch both live.

337.27All utter crapWSTENG::DSMITHShut the F**K up Mr. HoweTue Mar 21 1995 18:278
    
    
     But why the hell would you want to watch the Scottish Cup Final live?
    No matter who of the 4 teams qualify, I predict it will be one crap
    game, just like all the other crap served up in the name of Scottish
    football this season.
    
     Danny.
337.28Is on its way back home to paradise!!AYOV16::IREIDWhen we know the Scottish CupWed Mar 22 1995 15:079
    
    Aye right, English football is a dream to watch.
    
    Shut the F**K up Mr. Smith
    
    Choppers
    (The bait eater)  
    
    :-)
337.30Away up in Gorgie at Tynecastle ParkMASALA::CPATRICKThe Scottish Cup Is GORGIE boundWed Mar 22 1995 18:036
    
    re-1....
    
    choppers, you really know how to get your self in bovver......
    
     SQF Jambo #1
337.31Crap, crap and more crapWSTENG::DSMITHShut the F**K up Mr. HoweWed Mar 22 1995 18:3225
    
    
    re .28
    
    Man U v Spurs
    Liverpool v Newcastle
    Blackburn v Forest    etc etc etc
    
    Celtic v Thistle
    Killie v Hearts
    Falkirk v Hibs  etc etc etc
    
     I know what games I would pay to watch, certainly not the crap
    currently being offered in Scotland. Think about it, Celtic and Hibs
    have won 7 or 8 league games all season and are in with a chance of a
    European place, doesn't that tell you something. Rangers currently have
    their worst team for 4 or 5 years but yet again are running away with
    the Premier league. Unless there are some very favourable first round
    draws, ALL scottish clubs will leave Europe after 2 games next season.
    
     Danny.
    
    
     IREID - away home and grow up little boy. Come back when you have a
    little bit of sense 
337.32no comment required i think.KIRKTN::GPIKELinlithgow Rose (magic team)Thu Mar 23 1995 03:579
    
    
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
    
    
    wally
    
                                                                     
     
337.33WSTENG::DSMITHShut the F**K up Mr. HoweThu Mar 23 1995 16:523
    
    
     Hey Wally, whits yer problem?
337.34Theres always one...KIRKTN::GPIKELinlithgow Rose (magic team)Thu Mar 23 1995 20:5413
    
    I actually don't have a problem but it appears that you have Mr Smith.
    
    What should help your problem is a remote control for your television
    that can switch channels so that you can just press a button
    whenever a scottish football match is on tv. Its a pity we can't all
    delete the notes you grace the conference with as they are sometimes
    pretty irrelevant (just like this one).
    
    Bye for now Mr Smith I'll no doubt read you reply tomorrow night when
    I'm back on shift.
    
    
337.35Get a grip.WSTENG::DSMITHShut the F**K up Mr. HoweThu Mar 23 1995 21:5115
    
    
    
     Hey, all I said was that Scottish football is crap. 90% of football
    folk would agree with that. If I wish to watch a top English
    premiership game then I will. Do you realise that more people in
    Scotland watched a recent English game on TV as opposed to a Scottish
    game on the same day. Tells it's on story.
    
     I only expressed an opinion about my views on football in this
    country. That's what this conference is about, individual viewpoints.
    You obviously have different views. That's your right, I'm not about
    delete your reply because I think it's wrong or irrelevant.
    
     Danny.
337.36ONLY ON THE SURFACE.KIRKTN::SROBINSFREE SCOTLAND..we can survive aloneFri Mar 24 1995 06:3026

     Well what a lot of crap,I watch a lot of English football on the 
  Sky TV and as a loyal follower of Dunfermline A.F.C  I have had the 
  great pleasure of watching games in all of the leagues here in Scotland 
  and must say that I find very litle difference between the English
  and Scottish game,
  Yes English football look more entertaining(sp) because the game is played at
  a slower pace to the Scottish game,most of the parks are bigger than Scottish
  parks so the game tends to look more fluent(sp).But when it comes down to 
  real hard nitty gritty stuff the Scottish game is no worse than the English.
  I've sat a many a night in front of the box watching English games and have 
  nodded of,coming to at about 12 midnight and checking the text to see what I 
  missed and finding a 0-0 result.English football is more in the limelight
  than Scottish by way of the media but when it comes down to playing ability
  then you only have to look at the Leeds Untd -Rangers results a couple of year  
  back.
  Yes Scotland and their domestic teams have struggled a bit in world/European
  football where England have progressed through to various rounds of the
  European comps' and this is partly due to the numbers of games domestic
  teams in England play compared to the amount they play in Scotland.The
  Scottish F.A  are needing to re-think the amount of games the domestic teams
  play per season and concentrate on the building of a good international side
  which will be able to compete with the rest of the world.(But of course the 
  big gun in Scottish football will not like this ie Rangers.Celtic etc because
  they will lose out on the income from the gates).  
337.37The Pars,now there's boring !!!!KIRKTN::GMCDONALDAye Judas sold for silver pieces too.Fri Mar 24 1995 08:1713
    
    Re last,
    
           Scotland have guys in the squad from the English first
     division,if that doesn't tell you that their game is at a higher 
     standard than ours I don't know what will .
           True there are some boring games in the English Premiership but
     mostly you get to see class players like Cantona,Sutton,Shearer and
    Rush showing their skills .Compare that to Wullie Falconer,Wayne Foster
    Bobby Williamson and Gordon Durie .No contest .
           Oh and most "parks" are roughly the same size,60yds wide and 
    110yds long .Same throughout the world !
      
337.38AYOV16::EWHITEFri Mar 24 1995 09:0532
    re -1
    
    >>Yes Scotland and their domestic teams have struggled a bit in
    >>>world/European football where England have progressed through
    >>>to various rounds of the European comps' and this is partly 
    >>>due to the numbers of games domestic teams in England play 
    >>>compared to the amount they play in Scotland.The Scottish 
    >>>F.A  are needing to re-think the amount of games the domestic
    >>>teams play per season and concentrate on the building of a good
    >>>international side which will be able to compete with the rest of
    >>> the world.(But of course the big gun in Scottish football will 
    >>>not like this ie Rangers.Celtic etc because they will lose out 
    >>>on the income from the gates).
    
                                  Scotland       England
            # League games          36             42
            # Coca cola cup       1 leg/round    2 leg/round
            # FA/Sco cup          max 4 games    max 5 games    (+ replays)
            # Europe              max 2 games    max 12 games
    
    All this nonsense about too many games. The performance by English
    and Italian teams have proved that this is not a valid excuse for
    poor performances home and abroad.
    My opinion of why Scottish football is so uninteresting is due to a
    number of reasons.
    Firstly, top teams playing each other 4 or 5 times a year breeds 
    familurality. Secondly Rangers have too much money at their disposal
    for anyone to seriously compete with them. And finally, my experience
    of scouts was that they were more interested in signing the physical
    players as oppossed to the natural skilful players.
    
    Erich
337.39Err.. not sure about thatAYOV27::FW_TEMP01John Hussey - Dunure's greatFri Mar 24 1995 09:1119
Re.36

I think top English teams play more games.


	  Scotland	England

League		36	     42
Cup rounds	 5	      6
League Cup	 5	      6 (2 of which are 2 legs)
Euro Cups	 1 ;-)	      4/5

Even before this season when Scot Premier played 44 league games it still 
seems comparable. 

The main problem with Scottish football is that there are no middling games
where the result is not vital to promotion/relegation so produce a lot of
tense (& crap) football so not helping younger players to learn proper 
skills.  English football also has a similar problem.
337.40Best game ever...Gers 4 Celtic 4.MASALA::DROONEYLifes a beachSun Mar 26 1995 12:1110
    
    The Hearts v`s Rangers televised cup tie was the best game I`ve seen
    in Scotland for a long time.
    Apart from the Southampton v`s Spurs cup tie,I have to go back to the
    Liverpool v`s Man Utd 3-3 game at Annfield a couple of seasons back,for
    a really memorable game.
    There are crap games on both sides of the border but I must admit,
    Scottish football is dismal just now.
    
    Davie.
337.41Best game ever..Celtic 5 Sporting 0 or 1 whateverMASALA::CDOUDIEMake it soSun Mar 26 1995 12:3321
    RE:-1
    
    Davy,
    	it's obvious you don't see much english games on Sky. There has been
    at least 6 crackers I can remember this season already. The Crystal
    Palace Wolves one last week was a stormer, great goals etc. Perm any 4
    from the rest of the games, i.e a couple of the Man Utd games, a couple
    of the Spurs games and one of the Newcastle games was a cracker as well,
    and it's only March.
    
    p.s. And your right, the Hearts v rangers was a cracker. The biggest
    cheer of the season must go to rangers' equalizer and total silence of
    the year must go to Hearts' 4th. (rangers supporters only).
    
    and before all you TIT for tats come in, I'll say it....what about 
    Raith Rovers, nana na na na. OK, you can take the nappies back off now.
    
    regards
    
    colin
    
337.42The Grand FinaleAYOV16::IREIDOur day will come....May 27thWed Apr 12 1995 11:218
    
    Scotish Cup Final:
    
    Celtic v Airdrieonians
    
    May 27th 3.00pm
    
    Choppers *:^)
337.43Extra time and penalties.KIRKTN::AMILLARFilms Process Response TeamThu Apr 13 1995 01:557
    
    Well, you should certainly be confident....up against First Division
    opposition 8-))
    
    Archie
    SQFRRFCSC