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| 73.1 | OM are on top... | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Thu Dec 05 1991 11:04 | 13 |
| Good to have an OM note back in the Football notes conference.
OM are top of the French 1st Division, having played some great
football. Sadly they are out of the European Cup after only
beating Spartak of Prague 3-2 at home, they went on to lose (if
I remember correctly) 2-1 away. Doom and gloom, like Arsenal they
miss out on the money spinning 'group round'.
Still, they're a great team and have signed Trevor Stevens from
Rangers at the begining of the season who has already sored one
great volley.
-Dom
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| 73.2 | Metz 0 - 0 Marseille | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Mon Dec 09 1991 07:59 | 7 |
| Game played in Brass-Monkey weather, didn't look too good with
Papin missing a couple of chances that he has converted
in the past.
OM stay on top behind them are Monaco, Caen and PSG
-Dom
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| 73.3 | A New Year | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Tue Jan 07 1992 14:44 | 6 |
| Been away for a while, so I'll have to try and catch up with results.
The most recent news that AC Milan have denied any interest in signing
Papin for next season... good news for OM anyway!
-Dom
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| 73.4 | Very good news indeed | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | Chris the Jester | Tue Jan 07 1992 14:49 | 5 |
| Yes, as he is likely to go to Juventus. I think Tapie hated the idea
of playing Milano with Papin. As Milano are favourites to win the
League, Juve and Marseille will not clash in Europe.
�JF?
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| 73.5 | | CASEE::MERRICK | Too many scientists, not enough hunchbacks | Thu Jan 09 1992 12:12 | 6 |
| Marseille have some friendlies organised:
v. Isreali selection (Jerusalem) this weekend
v. Inter Milan at Pontet on Feb 4
v. AC Milan at San Siro on Mar 3
v. AC Milan at Stade Velodrome Mar 16
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| 73.6 | $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | Chris the Jester | Thu Jan 09 1992 16:05 | 3 |
| They need the cash or what?
�JF?
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| 73.7 | Jerusalam 2 - 5 OM | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Wed Jan 15 1992 10:35 | 6 |
| 14th January
OM played an easy game against Jerusalam, whose defence looked like
they'd all turned into pillars of salt, only they were less mobile!
-Dom
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| 73.8 | Nimes 1-2 OM | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Mon Jan 20 1992 11:18 | 13 |
| Scrapy looking game with OM not making good they're chances although
they dominated the first half Nimes scored and it was 1-0 at half
time.
Second half more of the same, but this time OM scored twice with
a typical opportunist goal from Papin who jumped on to a bad pass
back to the goalie and then the sub No.12 (name?) got the winner,
with a sliding shot.
OM stay on top of the league...
-Dom
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| 73.9 | | CASEE::CIOT | | Mon Jan 20 1992 11:53 | 3 |
| > the sub No.12 (name?)
Xuereb
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| 73.10 | Woops!!! | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Tue Jan 28 1992 13:32 | 3 |
| On the 25th Jan lost to Toulon 1-0 in a scrappy game, a hic-up I hope
-Dom
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| 73.11 | Incroyable ! | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Tue Jan 28 1992 14:25 | 5 |
|
Couldn't believe it ! What happened, did the first team not turn up ?
Ads
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| 73.12 | 1-1 | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Thu Jan 30 1992 08:13 | 7 |
| Last night the replay of the game against St Etienne played because
of the 'thrown bottle' incident ended in a 1-1 draw.
Papin scored of course, with St E. equalisisng in the last minute
of time.
-Dom
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| 73.13 | Canal + ...... | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Thu Jan 30 1992 09:25 | 9 |
|
I guess I'm just going to have to get a decoder - it's too frustrating
not being able to see properly !
Anyone know how much this will cost ? And how often do they show
football/sport - will they cover the Olympics, and the European
Championsips ?
Ads.
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| 73.14 | 2-0 | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Tue Feb 04 1992 07:00 | 13 |
| Sorry don't know cost of decoder, probably will one of these days to
stop the gnashing of teeth when the picture goes fuzzy, 30 seconds
after kick-off.
Back to OM and a 2-0 win over Toulouse and two good goals, the first from
Papin (who England are going to have to watch very carefully) after
the ball bounced off the bar, he volleyed it back in the goal.
...and the second by No.11 Dechamp (sp?) from a great pass with the
outside of the right foot from Stevens....OM back on the right track
I hope, a real shame they're out of Europe.
-Dom
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| 73.15 | Tapie = Businessman ?? | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Tue Feb 04 1992 11:31 | 8 |
|
I read that Steven is likely to be on his way back to Rangers at the
end of the season because OM can't find the remaining 2.5 million of
the transfer fee.
Not a bad deal, a one season loan for 3 million ! ....
Ads.
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| 73.16 | OM 2-2 Sauchoux (sp?) | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Fri Feb 14 1992 08:21 | 7 |
| Should have won this game, plenty of chances and they equalised
in the last minute.
Still top though.....
-Dom
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| 73.17 | xjqsdxj x | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | �ric leads Leeds | Fri Feb 14 1992 17:54 | 18 |
| Re several.
Canal+ costs around 140 F a month. You get between 3 to 10 games live
per month, and ample European excerpts, England, Germany, Spain, Italy
(all games!) and a special on Italy (about 45 minutes of the top game).
Plus lots of other sports of course, films (some a bit, er, for adults)
and music.
The only reason I never subscribed was because I would spend too much
time watching the football... and the rest.
Trevor Steven has been doing well of late. Participates more in attack,
integrates better.
Xuereb scored the second goal in N�mes.
�JF?
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| 73.18 | Lens 2-1 OM | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Thu Feb 20 1992 07:56 | 5 |
| Didn't see any highlights to this game, probably a good thing....
...distracted by the rugby. Still top with Monaco catching up
though.
-Dom
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| 73.19 | Still on Top | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Wed Mar 11 1992 12:23 | 8 |
| A 1-0 win last week, and just holding on to the top of the league.
Monaco have the Cup-Winners-Cup to worry about, hopefully they'll get
distracted and let OM win the league.
Still plenty of rumours on Stevens leaving and Tapi signing
a 'Big' name.....
-Dom
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| 73.20 | Nancy 1-3 OM | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Tue Apr 07 1992 11:31 | 8 |
| Looking a bit like the English 1st division with two teams neck and
neck. Come to think of it's a bit like the English General Election,
only more people care about the result.
A great goal from I think Boli in this game....OM hanging on in there
for the title.
-Dom
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| 73.21 | Abedi Ayew Pel� | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | �ric leads Leeds | Tue Apr 07 1992 13:40 | 3 |
| I think Pel� did the ovrhead volley, not Boli.
JF
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| 73.22 | Champions ! | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Tue Apr 21 1992 16:52 | 10 |
|
This weekend, largely thanks to Chris Waddle, who was excellent,
creating the first two goals before being chopped and having to leave
the field, Marseille overcame Monaco 3-0 to clinch the championship.
Next year may be a different story, with at least five first team
players on their way, among them, Papin. Has he said where he's going
yet ? And is Tapie letting Waddle go too ?
Adam.
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| 73.23 | With Van Basten | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Tue Apr 28 1992 14:09 | 13 |
|
Papin announced he is going to Milan A.C.
Suspected to leave:
- Waddle (Monaco ?)
- Mozer
- Olmeta
- Sauz�e (Paris ?)
- Pele (Italy ?)
Some others less known also
PYV
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| 73.24 | | COMICS::WARD | | Tue Apr 28 1992 16:56 | 1 |
| So who's arriving ???
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| 73.25 | | CASEE::MERRICK | Too quirky to succeed? | Wed Apr 29 1992 10:44 | 8 |
| According to Gazzetto della wotsit, Klinsman is considering either
Marseille or Paris St Germain. Rodriguez,the Argentine player, who has
signed with Marseille but is on loan to Toulon has, er, now moved to
Atalanta. Confused? You will be... Boban, signed by Milan but on loan
to Bari has hepatitis and so will probably not now move to Marseille,
or even Toulon. Meanwhile, Monaco are in the cup-final after beating Cannes
5-3 on penalties.They'll meet Bastia or Marseille.
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| 73.26 | Radio Black Out | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Tue May 05 1992 12:06 | 7 |
|
Before the final of the cup (if they reach it), Marseilles is
rather reluctant to disclose any info about their hiring actions.
The only (unknown outside France) is Eydelie (-21 france team) from
Nantes.
PYV
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| 73.27 | Maradona to join OM ??? | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Thu Jul 16 1992 10:35 | 10 |
| Read on CEEFAX that according to his manager, there is an 80% chance that
Diego Maradona will be signing for OM.
Is there any truth in this ??
Has he repented & paid for his behaviour over the last 4 years. If he does join,
I just hope he gets his act together and only makes the headlines with what he
does on the pitch.
Al
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| 73.28 | Hope he can put the past behind him | SALES::THILL | | Thu Jul 16 1992 18:13 | 7 |
| How long is/was his suspension? Or is it one of those "banned for
life, but eligible to apply for reinstatement" type deals?
A while ago the rumour was he'd end up playing in the USA of Japan,
neither of which is a FIFA-sanctionedl league.
Tom
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| 73.29 | Just a thought! | KURMA::ISUTHERLAND | Permanently on weekend mode | Sat Jul 18 1992 15:31 | 6 |
|
Are any of you Marseille supporters coming to Glasgow for the
forthcoming friendly against The Bears? ;>)
Maybe we could arrange to meet before the game for a small swally. ;*)
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| 73.30 | Some news. | CLARID::KREYER | Andre KREYER - Valbonne | Tue Oct 06 1992 10:53 | 10 |
|
Something new in here at long last....
Martin Vasquez has left Marseille for Real Madrid.
He came 3 months ago from Torino.
He signed a 3 years contract for a fee of about 30 Millions
Francs....
.Andre.
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| 73.31 | European Cup Champions - 1993 | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Sat Jun 05 1993 10:02 | 1 |
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| 73.32 | New coach | TAEC::MERRICK | Superstition doesn't have to be wrong... | Thu Jun 17 1993 10:08 | 2 |
| The French national U-21 coach, Marc Bourrier is the new coach at Olympique
Marseille.
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| 73.33 | | FERRET::CIOT | | Tue Jun 22 1993 20:31 | 3 |
| Any big changes in the team ?
Thierry
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| 73.34 | Transfer news... | CLARID::KREYER | Andre KREYER - Valbonne | Thu Jun 24 1993 13:49 | 12 |
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New faces at "Velodrome":
Daniel Dutuel and William Prunier (both from Auxerre)
Gilles Rousset (from Lyon) as second goalie, Barthez still number 1
Abedi Pele's situation not settled yet, he may stay or leave!!!
Amoros has signed for Cannes, Sauzee goes to Bergame (Italy)
That's all I heard of recently...
.Andre.
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| 73.35 | Money Money Money! | WOTVAX::MACDONALDI | Stalybridge Celtic | Sun Jun 27 1993 16:25 | 16 |
|
What is this I read in one of the sunday tabloids that Marseille are to
possibly lose the crown of European Champs, after alleged illegal
payments to another team.
Seemingly 6 days before the Euro Cup final against Milan, Mars had to
play a league game. Not wanting to tire/injure key players it seems
marseille payed ???? to make it an easy game. Maybe someone could
ellaborate(sp?) more..
Anyway it seems that Marseille may lose their European crown and also
be relegated to the second division.????
tut tut :-)
mac
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| 73.36 | Probably bribed refs too | ULYSSE::BREADIE | | Mon Jun 28 1993 08:26 | 9 |
| If Marseille are penalised then I think the final should be replayed,
between Rangers and Milan.
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| 73.37 | Some fresher news | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Tue Jun 29 1993 16:22 | 30 |
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The Marseilles "affair" is taking an enormous dimension in France.
- The Valenciennes player Christophe Robert has admitted to heve been
given money to simulate an injury during the match. His wife is said
to have gone to the Marseilles's hotel to take the money.
- Jorge Burruchaga is also suspected to have got money.
He is expected (he is in holidays in Argentina) by the justice to
answers 'some' questions.
- Jacques Eydelie, Marseilles's player, while denying to have participated
in anything, is highly suspected ..and has been put in jail.
- Jean-Pierre Bernes, the Tapie's right arm, the Marseille's general
manager, in now under the fire. He is presently in an Hospital for
an allegged depression.
- It will be interesting to see how Tapie will manage this...
On the sport side, nothing have been decided yet. But, we can
guess:
- All the players/managers involved will be banned (for life ?)
- Marseilles will loose the French league title (Paris will have it
then ? Paris will play the Eur cup ?)
- This seems not to be correlated with the Eur champions cup. In other
terms, I can see Marseilles play for the Eur. cup while in D2, except
if UEFA ban Marseilles
- Valenciennes is now asking the league to ge re-integrated in D1...in
place of Marseilles.
Whaou !!!!
Pierre-Yves
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| 73.38 | Not looking good | TAEC::MERRICK | Sliding down the razorblade of life | Wed Jun 30 1993 10:14 | 9 |
| UEFA are now involved as accordding to their coach, CSKA Moscow were
approached before their European matches.
L'Equipe on monday listed seven other occassions when accusations have
been made against Marseille, and Jean-Pierre Bernes in particular.
It looks as if Marseille will continue in Div 1 this season as the
league starts on July 24, but who knows. Each day more worms crawl from
the can...
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| 73.39 | fakers | UPROAR::WOODWARDD | Woody | Fri Jul 02 1993 16:13 | 18 |
| French + italian + german soccer - dontcha just love 'em.
It seems not only do the players roll around on the ground appearing
dead after a simple (in English terms) challenge but that this
corruption appears to have invested european soccer to the highest
degree.
I remember Pele on the football fanzine programme on BBC2 saying one of
the best things in soccer was the way the english players approached a
game ir - no Klinnsman Dives or no rolling around trying to appear
mortally wounded after someone scratched a hair on your ankle - oh for
that attitude to be taken up by the other europeans .....
dw.f
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| 73.40 | moved for your convenience | GALVIA::SPAIN | Going to the USA | Sat Jul 03 1993 21:54 | 36 |
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Is there an Olympique Marseilles tapiec?
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| 73.41 | Latest | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Mon Jul 05 1993 10:06 | 28 |
| Latest developments:
Jean-Pierre Bern�s, general director of Olympique Marseille, is now
"temporary detained" ('r�tention provisoire'), which is the last step
before being detained. He has not received details of the charges but
he will supposedly be charged with active corruption.
The stakes are:
- For Bern�s: a life sentence in terms of working in the football
world.
- For Jean-Jacques Eydelie (marseille player): life sentence of the
same kind
- For the three Valenciennes players: Suspension of life ban
- For Marseille: relegation to division II, being stripped of the
League Title
- For Paris SG: promoted to Champions?
European Cups: The CSKA Moscow claims seem to be abandoned due to lack
of evidence. Marseille should retain their title.
As a result, we would have Marseille competing in the Champions League,
as well as Paris SG.
Who benefits from all this? ... Paris!
Well...
�JF?
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| 73.42 | Monday's news | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Mon Jul 05 1993 10:17 | 12 |
|
The league's preseident Noel Le Graet, has announced that the
championship will start as expected the 24 th of July, with all the
teams, i.e. including OM.
In other terms, the league will not take any actions before Justice
decisions, if any.
J.P. Bern�s is now due to go to the deep North (Valenciennes) to answer
the judge's questions, within a 4 days delay.
PYV
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| 73.43 | update | TAEC::MERRICK | Sliding down the razorblade of life | Thu Jul 08 1993 10:21 | 14 |
| The FFF have confirmed that OM will take part in this seasons 1st
division. Their "individuals being responsible, not the club" attitude
means that it will be 94/95 season before action, if any, is taken
against the club. Tapie has now been accused of trying to bribe
Primorac, the ex-Valenciennes manager.
The first full legal hearings are tomorrow.
CSKA have withdrawn their accusations, so UEFA are not involved. OM
will be in EC1.
On the playing side, Angloma is out for a couple of months, and they
have bought Fugier from Lyon as cover. Boksic has agreed terms with
Lazio, but for the 94/95 season.
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| 73.44 | Update | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Thu Jul 08 1993 10:22 | 19 |
|
Some news:
J.P. Bernes, the Marseille's General Mgr is now jailed in Valenciennes,
accused of 'active corruption'.
Bernard Tapie has also been 'listened' by the judge.
The French Championship will start the 24 th of July WITH Olympique de
Marseille. The League President has clearly expressed that if there
is any sanction to take, it will be the next season, unless a blatant
corruption proof is brought before July the 24th, which is very
unlikely.
The participants of the Eur cups have been published these days, with
OM. Apparently, UEFA did not see any link between the OM-Valenciennes
and the European tournament.
PYV
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| 73.45 | update... | TAEC::MERRICK | Sliding down the razorblade of life | Mon Jul 12 1993 17:04 | 12 |
| Just to carry on from the Borussia note...
OM have Voeller, Boksic, Futre and Stojkovic as their four foreigners.
Pele has moved to Lyon, along with Olmetta and Amoros.
Regarding Stojkovic, he had a knee operation in January and is now in
full training. He played in a friendly v. Toulouse yesterday.
OM and Lens agreed terms for him to go north for a season, but he
didn't wantthe move. OM play Servette Geneva on wednesday with Futre and
Stojkovic in the line-up.
New season starts 23 with Nantes v Monaco, live on Canal+
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| 73.46 | Major development | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Tue Jul 13 1993 09:28 | 33 |
| Latest:
JJ Eydelie, confined in a prison cell for the last 15 days, at last
confirmed the whole setup: He declared that he indeed was the man to
bribe the Valenciennes players and that he acted on behalf of the infamous
Bern�s, Marseille's Number 2 man. He then confirmed the Valenciennes
theory.
Things are getting clearer now:
- There was a bribery attempt
- C. Robert got the money
- Bern�s ordered the bribe (according to all players concerned)
What is still unclear:
- Did the Valenciennes players give the game away?
- Did Bernes act on his own?
If the answer to those 2 questions is NO and YES respectively, the case
is simple:
- Bernes will be convicted and judged for bribery attempt.
If the answers are different then it will get more serious. Will Tapie
be prosecuted for bribery attempt himself? I think the guy is too
shrewd to be directly involved. He may have hinted that Marseille
should win that game at all costs and Bernes "misinterpreted" the hint.
But I can't see him with so much cash money without Tapie knowing it.
Ahem. Let's wait for new developments before we cast a judgment.
"You're innocent until you're proved guilty".
�JF?
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| 73.47 | 4 or 5 foreigners????? | CLARID::KREYER | Andre KREYER - Valbonne | Tue Jul 13 1993 10:01 | 5 |
|
> Regarding Stojkovic,
You sure about Stojkovic??? Where does that leave Igor Dobrovolski?
.Andre.
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| 73.48 | Back in the USSR | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Thu Jul 15 1993 09:49 | 10 |
| Dobrovolski is moving back to some Russiam team, then he might move on
to somewhere else.
On the corruption front, the French FA hinted that Marseille could be
banned from Europe but I don't understand on which ground they based
that decision or even if the decision is final or what. Shambles to me.
The draw for Marseille os AEk Athens by the way.
�JF?
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| 73.49 | It's up to the French FA | FORTY2::ASH | Grahame Ash @REO | Thu Jul 15 1993 13:54 | 10 |
| > On the corruption front, the French FA hinted that Marseille could be
> banned from Europe but I don't understand on which ground they based
> that decision or even if the decision is final or what. Shambles to me.
The two Polish teams who were punished by their League were prevented from
playing in Europe, so if the French FA take the title away from Marseille,
then I believe PSG will take their place, Nantes would move into the
Cup-Winners and St Etienne into the UEFA - simple isn't it?!
g
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| 73.50 | I understand now... | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Thu Jul 15 1993 15:14 | 10 |
| AH... the French title, perhaps... but they WON the European Cup. So,
if EUFA is satisfied they did not break the law in Europe they will
keep their Euro title, which gives them an automatic slot for the Euro
Cup.
Possibly, we will have 2 teams in the European Champions Cup...
Marseille and Paris SG! Perhaps Paris is behind all this! (just
kidding).
�JF?
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| 73.51 | The show goes on... | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Thu Jul 22 1993 08:37 | 7 |
| Bernes stuck to his story yesterday in a 6 hour meeting with the
magistrate and the other players involved in the scandal.
Tapie still reckons its a 'Sting' against him all because of his
Politics.....
-Dom
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| 73.52 | ! | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Sat Jul 24 1993 10:21 | 6 |
| Bernes was released on Thursday, complete denial of everything....
....somebody is telling big 'fibs'!
OM play first game of the season today..
-Dom
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| 73.53 | The Latest... | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Mon Jul 26 1993 12:59 | 8 |
| Saturday - OM beat Lens 1-0 with a goal from Boli who went on to
dedicate it to Bernes. Pele has goe to Lyons and OM have kept
Voller!
Sunday - Bernes announces his resignation, was he pushed or did he
jump
-Dom
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| 73.54 | Water-tight? | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Mon Jul 26 1993 17:57 | 16 |
| When a television (France 2) crew approached Tapie's luxury boat to
interview, they were met by the Boss himself who rode a Zodiac,
insulted the crew and threw a camera (�24,000 worth) to the sea.
Meanwhile, a crew from rival TV network TF1 was onboard shooting a
special (Tapie is - or was - a shareholder of TF1).
If you want to hear Marseille's view, tune in to TF1, if not, tune in
to France 2 or France 3.
If you don't give a damn, tune in to rock n' roll.
Cheers
JF
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| 73.55 | | TAEC::MERRICK | Every silver lining has a cloud | Tue Jul 27 1993 10:54 | 1 |
| TF1 are also shareholders in Olympic Marseille.
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| 73.56 | TV schedule. | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Tue Jul 27 1993 11:01 | 9 |
|
JF,
Now that I can pick up TF1 and TF2 on the Satellite, what times are
the Football shows scheduled or/and do they broadcast live league games
??
Cheers,
Dezzz.
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| 73.57 | Some info... | TAEC::MERRICK | Every silver lining has a cloud | Tue Jul 27 1993 12:30 | 9 |
| League games are on the coded channel, Canal+, although France 2 will be
showing 2nd division games live on some saturday afternoons. International
matches are (mostly) on TF1 (this week it's France v Russia on wednesday).
Second division matches and cup games are also shown on the French
Eurosport.
As for live league games, Canal+ will be showing one a week throughout
the season. 1st August it's Cannes v Marseille; 6 Aug, Lille v Lens.
See the Monaco topic for more.
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| 73.58 | La t�l�vision fran�aise | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Tue Jul 27 1993 14:25 | 18 |
| And rejoice my friend, there are 2 weekly football programmes.
The major one is T�l�Foot on TF1, Sunday 11:05 am (but they keep
changing times so watch out). Mostly crap of course, no depth, silly
interviews but you do get all the goals. Mostly national, as Canal +
has a(n excellent) international programme on Sunday evening.
Also, France 2 (is that TF2 for you?) has an international-minded
programme sometime Saturday afternoon, entitled "Plan�te Foot",
anchored by Cannes-born Didier Roustan, the man who can speak faster
than his shadow.
There are also 15 minutes on France 2 on Sunday evening (7 pm), part of
the Sports programme.
Enjoy -
�JF?
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| 73.59 | A reasonable selection.... | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Wed Jul 28 1993 11:43 | 10 |
|
Thanks chaps...though I'm a bit doubtful about the Saturday afternoon
program!!!!!
This Canal+ is showing more and more unencoded...not sure abut the
Footy...
Cheers,
Dezzz
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| 73.60 | The End is nigh | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Thu Sep 02 1993 09:24 | 5 |
| Looks like UEFA are putting on the pressure on the FFA to make some
decision on if OM are guilty of wrong doing, and if so they will be
banned from the Euro Cup.
-Dom
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| 73.61 | And... | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Tue Sep 07 1993 07:15 | 5 |
| ...yesterday they were banned from the Euro Cup by UEFA in Zurich.
What did they expect, Tapi needs to resign...
-Dom
|
| 73.62 | Facts etc | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Tue Sep 07 1993 09:04 | 25 |
| Let's have the facts, as far as I know them:
UEFA banned Marseille from this year's Champions Cup as a "preventive" measure.
They did so on the evidence (?) they had and also because the Champions Cup
starts next week.
They gave the French FA one week to designate a replacement for Marseille.
Paris SG, Bordeaux, Monaco and Nantes declined the offer. Paris justified
this in a statement: "We only want to play a Cup for which we qualified
on the pitch" [(Cup Winners Cup)].
Auxerre indicated they would take the offer.
Tapie counter-attacked, stating through his lawyer: "The decision is not
based on evidence, the rights of the defendants were not respected, there is
no appeal, the Sports bodies cannot be above the law and the club was "defended"
by the plaintiff. We will challenge the decision and ask the French FA to
refuse it".
They have a point: The French League Association was indeed the plaintiff,
filing a suit against Marseille and Valenciennes and that body was supposed
to defend Marseille in Zurich yesterday. Bizarre.
�JF?
|
| 73.63 | Real hard Facts... | CLARID::KREYER | Andre KREYER - Valbonne | Tue Sep 07 1993 10:32 | 5 |
|
>They gave the French FA one week to designate a replacement for Marseille.
Not a week, the replacement need to be named by tomorrow 17:00
.Andre.
|
| 73.64 | No Smoke without Fire? | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Tue Sep 07 1993 11:53 | 8 |
| JF,
You have a point, but the Fact is that there is clearly 'something
rotten in the woodwork' as far as OM and the Valencienne incident
goes. The 'non-action' of the FFF looks too much like a cop-out.
This should at least force the issue - and a trial.
-Dom
|
| 73.65 | UEFA should have waited | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Tue Sep 07 1993 13:30 | 7 |
| It looks as if no-one's going to come out of this very well. UEFA ASSUME that
OM will eventually be found guilty. So they throw them out now (without the
case being proved) because it would be too complicated to throw them out
later. This isn't natural justice. OM should be allowed to fight their corner
- and then be thrown out!
g
|
| 73.66 | The Brown stuff hitting the rotating metal.. | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Tue Sep 07 1993 16:07 | 7 |
| Dont forget that Eydelie an OM player has admitted to attempted
bribary, plus he implicated Bernes in this, who of course denied
all knowledge.
OM have been banned for bringing the game in to disripute by UEFA.
-Dom
|
| 73.67 | hmmmmm | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Tue Sep 07 1993 17:00 | 30 |
| I'm not saying nothing happened. SOMETHING must have happened. And it
certainly is not the first time either.
What I believe is that all the parties involved should grab this opportunity
to clean football. What the French League Association did was a first: instead
of judging the case "in the family" they decided to prosecute officially
i.e. go to the courts. Obviously, justice is slow. When there are cases of
corruption in, say, the armaments industry the courts deliver the goods. Why
not in football?
But the problem is immense as this case involves multinational bodies.
Which court is competent? The Hague perhaps (the European Court of Justice).
UEFA lost an opportunity for a real judgment. All the efforts undertaken
so far are close to nil.
I wonder... if French justice decide that there is not enough evidence to
prosecute Marseille, what will UEFA say?
As an aside, the same facts occurred in Belgium 10 years ago with Standard
de Li�ge as culprits. Players were banned, so was the manager. That manager
was Raymond Goethals, he was banned for life. His sentence was eased to a
few years and he went on to become... Marseille's manager until last
June when he won the Champions Cup.
Coincidence?
Cheers
�JF?
|
| 73.68 | Does anyone truely think Marseille are innocent? | ISIDRO::BREADIE | | Tue Sep 07 1993 19:03 | 11 |
| I certainly suspect something happened BUT UEFA should wait for the
courts before condeming Marseille.
I agree about the disrepute charge but that should have been levelled
at the French FA for taking the long route. Based on this UEFA should
have debarred France from having an entrant in this years Champions
Cup.
Denis
ps they should also now make Rangers 3rd seeds inplace of Marseille >*!
|
| 73.69 | Another possibility | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Tue Sep 07 1993 19:14 | 16 |
|
-1 Some Marseille fans over there sustain that there is some
room (unlikely in my opinion) for a 'plot' against OM, more
exactly against Tapie (who is as you know also a industry mgr
and a politician).
They claim that the Valenciennes players could have been
contacted by Eydelie on behalf of somebody attempting to
involve Marseille in such a party.
I think it is unlikely, but not absolutely impossible, as bribing
Valenciennes was not really worthy...
Wait and see..
PYV
|
| 73.70 | Surprise | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Wed Sep 08 1993 09:41 | 9 |
|
The team which will replace Marseille in C1 has just been
announced:
AS Monaco
PYV
|
| 73.71 | Please can you explain | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Wed Sep 08 1993 12:13 | 2 |
|
Why Monaco ?
|
| 73.72 | I guess.... | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Wed Sep 08 1993 14:39 | 6 |
| Probably 'cause PSG said no and Monaco were next on the list...
...and they said Yes, Auxerre further down the list would have
said yes too...
-Dom
|
| 73.73 | Why anyone... | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Wed Sep 08 1993 15:46 | 3 |
|
...if UEFA were 'punishing' the French association by kicking out
Marseilles?
|
| 73.74 | Auxerre????? | KBOMFG::TANNER | U2 are Numbed!!!!!!!!!!! | Wed Sep 08 1993 16:34 | 4 |
|
Hadn't Monaco qualified for the UEFA cup???? does this mean that Auxerre will
take Monacos place?????
-dave-
|
| 73.75 | Correct assumption... | CLARID::KREYER | Andre KREYER - Valbonne | Wed Sep 08 1993 16:48 | 8 |
|
> Hadn't Monaco qualified for the UEFA cup????
Yes, they were drawn against Teneriffe (Spain)
> does this mean that Auxerre will take Monacos place?????
Exactly, now Auxerre will play Teneriffe for the UEFA cup
.Andre.
|
| 73.76 | Thats good.... | KBOMFG::TANNER | U2 are Numbed!!!!!!!!!!! | Wed Sep 08 1993 16:53 | 6 |
|
Iam happy for Auxerre... For those people who don't know Auxerre is a tiny
town, and the people there are very friendly and enjoy their footie. I believe
their stadium holds less than 20,000 is this correct????
-dave-
|
| 73.77 | The answer - Money? Just for a change | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Thu Sep 09 1993 11:13 | 5 |
| There was some talk yesterday on French and Swiss TV that part
of the reason that PSG turned down the Euro Cup was to do with
TV sponsor and coverage deals.....!
-Dom
|
| 73.78 | Obvious | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Thu Sep 09 1993 13:38 | 25 |
|
Their explanations:
1. Auxerre could not represent France in c1, cause they only finished
6th at the last championship
2. Paris S.G. were qualified for the winners cup and intended to play
in this competition
3. Monaco has been "obliged" to accept, cause this will allow a place
to Auxerre in C3.
What I think:
1. Paris SG could not take this place because they are considered by
the Marseille's fans as the old ennemy, and the league would not
have to assume the forthcoming troubles. Policemen has been assigned
to protect the PSG premises as well as the training fields, as the
staff received threatening letters and phone calls...
2. On the other hand, the PSG fans (some of them at least) are known
to be the bad guys of the French supporters...
3. Monaco has a very good press vis-a-vis the international entities.
Allez Monaco !
|
| 73.79 | Locked up!!!!! | KBOMFG::TANNER | U2 are Numbed!!!!!!!!!!! | Thu Sep 09 1993 14:59 | 9 |
| Re last....
2. On the other hand, the PSG fans (some of them at least) are known
to be the bad guys of the French supporters...
After seeing those fans in action a couple of weeks ago I reckon a lot of them
should be locked up.......
-dave-
|
| 73.80 | FIFA have spoken!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Thu Sep 09 1993 15:35 | 11 |
| I read on teletext this lunch time that FIFA had threatened:
a) that Marseille could face a ban in future Euro Cups if they don't
drop their appeal
b) The French could receive an international ban if the the French F.A.
don't deal with the Marseille situation.
Comments!!
Al
|
| 73.81 | Another old rathole re-openend | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Thu Sep 09 1993 16:18 | 14 |
|
> b) The French could receive an international ban if the the French F.A.
> don't deal with the Marseille situation.
Why not? A certain UK club got banned (admittedly for a serious
incident) when the opposition 'fans' were equally (if not more) to
blame. These are my wife's (non football fan) opinions, not mine, she
saw it, I didn't.
Since when has EUFA, FIFA, 'country' F.A. handled incidents in a calm,
fair manner?
|
| 73.82 | It'll end in tears.... | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Fri Sep 10 1993 07:19 | 13 |
| Yeah well its turning into an even greater farce now with OM getting
a Bern Court to over rule the UEFA decision because its against
Swiss law (and most other countries) to have a ruling like this taken
without the accused unable to defend themselves etc etc.
So in theory OM can play thier first game, UEFA have 10 days to appeal,
there is another meeting in Zurich, and their is a real possibilty
that the French National team could get banned too....
....this is certinaly putting the game in disripute, and Tapies offices
were raided by the police yesterday afternoon......!
-Dom
|
| 73.83 | becoming juicy ! | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Fri Sep 10 1993 08:58 | 22 |
|
It 's amazing to imagine what they could decide now on:
- Tapie and OM have already announced to their supporters that they
will play versus Athens next wednesday
- UEFA is claiming that by invoking a Court, OM broke the UEFA rules
and is now out of UEFA
- A decision will certainly be taken by UEFA next Monday at the latest
and perhaps today at the Zurich meeting with Havelange, Johansson,
Fournet-Fayard and...Tapie.
- What will happen if they maintain the ban ?
- Who will play versus whom is the ban is de facto suspended ?
- Is there any sense to suspend the French FA ?
Waohh !
There is a point anyway: is it normal that a small set of old
UEFA/FIFA guys have an absolute power on all the football people, this
power being above the laws ?
PYV
|
| 73.84 | btw... I think OM should play | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Fri Sep 10 1993 09:07 | 19 |
|
RE : last
> There is a point anyway: is it normal that a small set of old
> UEFA/FIFA guys have an absolute power on all the football people, this
> power being above the laws ?
I don't know the bit about being above the law, but, it is certainly
within the power of soccer's ruling bodies to act against a club
without any of the clubs representatives present. I think its all
written in the rules of association, and by signing up to play in
league or cup games, you agree to abide by ALL the rules (however
stupid) of the governing body.
I know I fell foul of this sort of thing on a few occassions as a very
(very) minor club manager - affilliated to the English FA.
Ian
|
| 73.85 | Tapie withdraws | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Fri Sep 10 1993 13:41 | 7 |
| Unconfirmed news: Tapie has withdrawn his suit against UEFA, apparently
under The French League Association's pressure [to avoid a general ban
on French clubs]. I'm sure he got compensation for that [money?].
News courtesy of Robert Diquattro.
??JF?
|
| 73.86 | | PAVONE::TURNER | | Fri Sep 10 1993 17:42 | 19 |
| re: .81
>Why not? A certain UK club got banned (admittedly for a serious
>incident) when the opposition 'fans' were equally (if not more) to
>blame. These are my wife's (non football fan) opinions, not mine, she
>saw it, I didn't.
Hmmm, if you're talking about Liverpool (and I presume you are), I
think you're on rather shakey ground there. I wasn't at the game, but
I've spoken to people who were (Italians) and while they don't deny
that the Juventus hooligan element played its part in the proceedings,
they are adamant that most of the guilt lies with the Liverpool fans,
together with the security forces and the sub-standard stadium.
As an aside, a dentist in the town where I live lost a brother that
day. I don't wish to joke about the issue, but that's one dentist I
shall not be going to for a tooth extraction...
Dom
|
| 73.87 | UEFA justice? Pooh! | PAVONE::TURNER | | Fri Sep 10 1993 17:53 | 22 |
|
Returning to the subject of Marseille:
While it would appear that the club are guilty of *something*, I can't
help feeling that it would be nice to see someone put one over on
UEFA, a toffee-nosed, arrogant and inflexible establishment if ever there
was one.
Secondly, I'm somewhat perplexed at all those who seem to be alleging
that French football has always had a rather shady reputation. Not only
am I at a loss to recall even one case of French "misbehaviour" (for
want of a better word) at international level, but I find it somewhat
strange that French clubs have only won a single European trophy to
date. Given that they regularly produce excellent players, it rather
suggests that they, like the Russians, lack friends in high places in
international football.
An example that immediately comes to mind is the '75 European Cup Final
between St. Etienne and Bayern Munich (0-1). A case of daylight (well,
twilight!) robbery if ever there was one.
Dom
|
| 73.88 | A weakened tournament without the French Aces | KIRKTN::JJACK | | Fri Sep 10 1993 18:12 | 33 |
|
I find it quite amazing that UEFA have the power/right to ban Marseille
from the Europena Cup. Surely it should be up to the French FA, as the
supposed match rigging happened in a league match ?
If the French FA won't do anything to punish Marseille, then they
aren't doing their jobs right, and it should be THEM that's punished !
UEFA have got it wrong on numerous occassions, and I agree with the
previous noter that they are a toffee nosed, arrogant bunch etc.
My feelings for them are nothing but contempt after the way they
handled an 80's UEFA Cup tie between Celtic & Rapid Vienna.
Rapid won 3-1 at home in the 1st leg, but lost 3-0 at Glasgow in the
return.
A Rapid player feigned injury, claiming he had been struck on the head
with a bottle, and the Austrians at one stage left the pitch
threatening to postpone the game. They eventually played on, and Celtic
went through 4-3 on aggregate, or so we thought.
Rapid then protested to UEFA that one of their players was hit by a
bottle, and they wanted the game replayed. UEFA fined them, and threw
out their case for their part in the melee.
The Austrians then changed their story to that of the player being
struck by a coin. UEFA in their wisdom then saw fit to double the
Austrian ban, fine Celtic, and then made both teams contest the 2nd
leg again at Old Trafford, Manchester...with the score standing at 3-1
to Rapid from the 1st leg !!!
Any committe/body who can make such a turnaround like that, aren't
capable of running a jumble sale !
Leave it to the French FA......no matter how long it takes !
|
| 73.89 | UEFA got it right(this time). | PAKORA::WHERSHAW | | Sat Sep 11 1993 03:53 | 23 |
| A supervising body,like UEFA,is needed in cases like this in order
to attempt to gain consistency in decision making.I agree that some of
UEFA's decisions are bizarre to say the least,but this is the fault
of the responsible committees (i.e. officials) rather than the system
itself.
Remember the situation in Rumania a few years back,where corruption in
football went all the way up to government level.Bearing this in mind
the idea of corruption amongst individual football associations
doesn't seem too unlikely.In other words there could be a situation
where some clubs could do as they pleased,then rely on their FA to bail
them out.
In this case the French associations hands seem to have been tied
by French law,UEFA being outwith the jurisdiction of such laws were
able to take the necessary action.Hopefully this will limit the damage
to French and European football.Last seasons European cup has been
more or less invalidated,we really can't afford to have this showpiece
competition tarnished again.
There is of course the question of Marseilles guilt or innocence to
be considered.This seems to have become a secondary consideration
overshadowed by the implications of having the integrity of the game
questioned.All the signs are that some dodgy dealings have been going
on,but having witnessed their superb display against Rangers at Ibrox
last year,I can't help but wonder why?
|
| 73.90 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Waist not, want not! | Wed Sep 22 1993 14:33 | 4 |
|
Is it true that Marseille have been stripped of their league title?
Tim
|
| 73.91 | Can't be true! | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Wed Sep 22 1993 15:39 | 3 |
| What?
JF
|
| 73.92 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Waist not, want not! | Wed Sep 22 1993 15:45 | 2 |
|
Apparently PLUNDR::LOWEG heard this on BBC Radio 1 at Lunch-time.
|
| 73.93 | | CALLME::MR_TOPAZ | | Wed Sep 22 1993 16:07 | 57 |
|
PARIS (UPI) -- European Cup holder Olympique Marseille, already
disgraced in Europe, was stripped of its French soccer league title here
on Wednesday in the wake of an alleged bribes scandal which has rocked
world football.
And the French Football Federation (FFF) also banned three players
and former Marseille general manager Jean Pierre Bernes for their part
in the affair.
The moves were immediately welcomed by world governing body FIFA, who
had put the pressure on the French soccer authorites to act by first
banning the club from this year's European Cup showpiece and then
threatening to ban France from the World Cup.
But controversial club president Bernard Tapie escaped the backlash --
for the moment at least.
Marseille's players and officials reluctantly accepted the ban --
although the allegations have yet to be proved in court -- and vowed to
fight back.
Marseille captain Didier Deschamps hit back: ``The best way to
respond will be to win the championship this year.''
Bernes, who hinted on Tuesday he was considering suicide because of
the pressure, stands accused of using Marseille star Jean-Jacques
Eydelie as a go-between to bribe Valenciennes players Christophe Robert
and Jorge Burruchaga to throw a crucial league match on May 20.
Marseille went on to win the match 1-0 and the title, its fifth in a
row, before beating AC Milan in the European Cup final.
Eydelie, Robert and Argentinian Burruchaga all admitted their role in
the affair and were suspended until further notice. FIFA immediately
made the ban worldwide, meaning none of them will be able to continue
playing professional football.
Bernes, who has always denied the bribery allegations and who is
still undergoing psychiatric treatment following the scandal, will also
not be able to work in football management.
But Valenciennes player Jacques Glassmann, who blew the whistle on
the alleged bribery offer, was cleared by the FFF -- as was Tapie, who
had been accused in turn of trying to pay the former Valenciennes coach
Boro Primorac to take the blame for the affair.
Ongoing police investigations into the affair, however, mean the
charges could still be amended or even thrown out of court, leading to a
possible review of the FFF decisions.
The sanctions were seen as crucial, however, after FIFA president
Joao Havelange had set a September 24 deadline for action.
FIFA and UEFA, the European governing body, had forced the issue by
throwing Marseille out of this season's European Cup, arguing there was
already enough incriminating evidence and that they were not willing to
wait for lengthy legal investigations in France.
Havelange said on Wednesday: ``I congratulate the French Federation
for not only having taken sanctions against the players, but also
against top officials implicated in this affair. We will have to see
what happens.''
Jean-Louis Levreau, Marseille vice-president, said: ``I feel sorry
for the players who, for the moment, have been deprived of a title which
they won on the pitch.''
But he was pleased the club had not been docked any points or even
relegated into a lower division as a punishment.
Marseille defender Basile Boli, who headed the only goal in the
European Cup final, the first European trophy by any French club, added:
``We expected these sanctions but it is still a blow.''
|
| 73.94 | Stripped and naked | OPG::TONY | | Wed Sep 22 1993 17:57 | 6 |
| I take it that Marseille have handed back the European Cup. But does anyone know
if they have given back the players medals...??
Just a thought..!
Tony
|
| 73.95 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Wed Sep 22 1993 18:30 | 7 |
| Tony,
It's only the French league they've been stripped of not the European Cup
I think
Al
|
| 73.96 | OM's moves | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Allez O.G.C.N. ! | Mon Nov 15 1993 08:59 | 17 |
|
In order to recover after the financial disaster of the ban (about
100 MF), Marseille is selling out its players capital.
After the Boksic departure to Lazio, two other departures has been
registered this week-end:
- Marcel Desailly to A.C Milan (around $ 8 M)
- Paolo Futre to Reggiana (?)
However, they hired another centre forward until the end of the season:
- Anderson from Servette Geneve.
BTW, Marseille was defeated by Lyon 1-0 last wednesday
PYV
|
| 73.97 | Where is l'OM? | GLDOA::BOSSONNEY | | Fri Jun 24 1994 17:08 | 17 |
|
In the midst of the World cup frenzy, I have lost sight of what is
happening on the home front?
What is the final fate of l'OM ?Is anybody left? Are they definitively in
division 2 ? My most recent issue of France-Foot lend me to think that
they might not even be able to do that....By the way , it might be just
a personal impression but I have the feeling that FF has done
everything they can to "harass" l'OM ? Tapie, who appears to be their
real target, might be a real creep, but I am sometimes amazed by their
coverage of Marseill's problems. It looks like they will stop at
nothing to build the case against l'OM. They look more and more like a
tabloid to me. I have considered getting rid of my subscription but I
haven't had the guts to do so....
Jacques
|
| 73.98 | May be somebody else got more orecise infos | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Bora played for OGC Nice | Fri Jun 24 1994 17:52 | 28 |
|
l'OM still navigates in uncertain times.
1) The DNCG (FIFA/league) has decided to maintain OM in DIV 2.
However, if OM "d�pose le bilan" (something like chapter 11) after
July 29 th, it might be relegated in National 1.
2) The "tribunal de commerce de Marseille" (Business Court) also has to
decide if OM can continue (with payment delays) or must "d�poser le
bilan". This will be decided in the next 2 weeks.
To diminish the debt, several players have already been sold, incl.
Boli, Deschamps, Stojkovic, Anderson,...
Prunier, Dutuel, and Barthez should also go.
They also got payment delays from the tax administration
To continue, they must come back with new sponsors, and overall
somebody who can take the Club.
Tapie went first with a Canadian Guy claiming being able to invest
14 M$ (Mr Gingras) but this turned out to be a farce, news from this
still being expected.
He then came back with another shining group (based in UK with Arab
money). This solution nows seems as solid as the previous one.
Then, news are expected from Tapie, and from the Court.
PYV
|
| 73.99 | FIRE SALE | GLDOA::BOSSONNEY | | Fri Jun 24 1994 19:38 | 6 |
| PYV,
thanks... like always you are right on the money (no pun intended with
Marseille's financial problems).
Jacques
|
| 73.100 | I am also interested by the game itself | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Bora played for OGC Nice | Mon Jun 27 1994 09:03 | 14 |
|
Jacques,
I am not a Marseille's fan. (to be frank, I don't really like them,
being an OGC Nice fan).
However, I am interested by the financial 'background', not very clear
of football.
PYV
P.S. The league announced that, despite the payment delays and the
players sales, l'OM is still missing 130 MF to be in the right
track.
|
| 73.101 | Summer sales | EVTDD1::LAFONTAINE | A flame about this high | Tue Jun 28 1994 09:50 | 10 |
| the warehouse sale at Marseille (as far as I know)
Boli ---> Lazio Roma, Tottenham, Rangers ???
Deschamps ---> Juventus Turin
Prunier, Dutuel ---> back to Auxerre to cancel debt
Voller ---> retires
Angloma ---> Torino
Andersson ---> Servette Geneve, Paris SG ???
Eric
|
| 73.102 | Y | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | I'm the new Romario | Thu Aug 25 1994 18:12 | 7 |
|
How many games and how many goals has Tony Cascarino got for Marseilles so
far.
C U N N O
|
| 73.103 | 5/5 | EVTDD1::LAFONTAINE | A flame about this high | Thu Aug 25 1994 18:37 | 9 |
| >> How many games and how many goals has Tony Cascarino got for Marseilles
>> so far.
League: 5 games, 5 goals
Friendly vs Juventus Tuesday: 2 goals
(Then again, let's not forget that league is only French D2, ie. equivalent
to English Div1...)
Eric
|
| 73.104 | 7 goals... | EVOAI2::PAULY | PAULY'N-1....!!! | Mon Aug 29 1994 08:55 | 2 |
|
League : 6 games - 7 goals.
|
| 73.105 | Knocking them in | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Mon Sep 05 1994 12:34 | 7 |
| Marseille trashed Amiens over the week-end. 5:0. And 2 goals to
Cascarino, that makes him leading scorer in Division II with 9 goals
and Marseille are now top of their League.
Attendance: 20,000. Pretty loyal fans!
�JF?
|
| 73.106 | European team in 2nd division ? | PLAYER::LESOIL | | Mon Sep 05 1994 15:27 | 11 |
|
Re.
>> and Marseille are now top of their League.
I wouldn't imagine any other position than the top.
If Marseille can't finish first this year, that would mean
a disaster for them.
Ph./
|
| 73.107 | Just for their pride.. | EVTDD1::LAFONTAINE | A flame about this high | Tue Sep 06 1994 18:14 | 11 |
|
re 106
>> I wouldn't imagine any other position than the top.
>> If Marseille can't finish first this year, that would mean
>> a disaster for them.
I think top 3 teams go to div1, no matter if they finished first,
seond or third...
Eric
|
| 73.108 | l'OM sera toujours l'OM @:^) | EVTDD1::LAFONTAINE | A flame about this high | Wed Sep 14 1994 09:23 | 20 |
|
UEFA first round:
Olympiakos 1-2 Marseille
Unfortunately, i had to watch it in a pub that doesn't have a decoder,
but it was good nonetheless.
Marseille scored its 2nd by Marquet (I think, 'cause it was written in
greek) despite being down to 10 men; (Durand redcarded).
Barthez saved the day several times after that.
Other french result:
Bordeaux 3-1 Lillestroem
Volvograd 3-2 Nantes
Cannes 4-0 Fenherbace
Eric
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| 73.109 | Fair results | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Bora played for OGC Nice | Wed Sep 14 1994 09:36 | 10 |
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Eric,
I did not expect "l'OM sera toujours l'OM" from a PSG fan.
Good fair play !
Question: how could you watch the game without a decoder ?
On my TV, I cannot see anything tangible without decoder.
PYV
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| 73.110 | Canal+ advanced technology... | CLARID::KREYER | Andre KREYER, Sophia Antipolis (FR) | Wed Sep 14 1994 12:08 | 19 |
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> Question: how could you watch the game without a decoder ?
> On my TV, I cannot see anything tangible without decoder.
Do you remember ever watching Canal+ without decoder up to a few
months ago? It was just about usable... But Canal+ has decided to
go after the "$$$pirate decoder market" and changed the scrambling.
This had two immediate effects, and one side-effect:
- all non-official decoders stopped working
- without a decoder you now see zero
- if you want to see something, go and apply/pay for the
real thing
Obviously the change will be implemented in phases. We were hit
a couple of months ago, I think Paris and thereabouts are being
switched over in the next few days/weeks so their unfair bonus
will disappear...
.Andre.
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| 73.111 | Frechheit... | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Wed Sep 14 1994 13:44 | 9 |
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Well personally I think it's an insult to the French people encoding
these European Games....Germany and Italy show ALL of their clubs games
in the clear as they make mega bucks from the advertising....mind you
these two countries show ALL their international matches live on the
terrestrial channels no matter the opposition....ehemmm unlike SKY
which encodes every game.....
Dezzz.
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| 73.112 | You're right | BONNET::VISCIGLIO | Bora played for OGC Nice | Wed Sep 14 1994 13:51 | 10 |
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I fully agree.
That's why I don't want to subsscribe for Canal +, by principle.
Before the existence of this channel, we had the matches in clear, and
now we have to pay for...
No, I don't want to accept this system.
PYV
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| 73.113 | Issa same the 'ole weld ova... | MOEUR8::BROOKS | | Fri Sep 16 1994 15:40 | 27 |
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Yes, I agree, we are all at the mercy of the Global Media Thugs.
Satellite/Cable TV in the UK has not be welcomed with open arms as the
likes of Murdoch, etc. expected. They offer extremely poor general
programming and then snaffle, with the collaboration of the BBC, the
rights to screen the (English, not sure about rest of UK) premier league
football and charge extra for it.
As far as I am aware, the monies raised from subscription to Sky Sports
comes nowhere near the amount they spend on coverage and it's kept afloat
(unlike BSB and its proprietor ;-)) by the extremely huge wallet of
Murdoch (or maybe his employees' pension fund ;-)). This is obviously in
the hope that Joe Public will eventually say 'Oh well, it's only �XX per
month, I might as well subscribe...'.
I know I would rather save the money and go see a game on Saturday
afternoon near to home, irrespective of who's playing, once or twice a
month, than (eventually) line the pockets of Murdoch and his share-holders.
However, if you don't subscribe to Canal+ you still have to watch the
grubby films in 'wobble-vision' ;-).
Disgusted of N.F.A.,
Steve.
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| 73.114 | Feel talkative today 8-) | EVTDD1::LAFONTAINE | A flame about this high | Mon Sep 19 1994 11:38 | 31 |
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re: This weekend's game
Marseille beat Dunkerque 5-1 this Saturday. Back into 1st place.
Cascarino scored a triple, but it's a double as far as I'm concerned
unless he somehow switched his uniform number from 9 to 11 during the
game.
re: Pierre-Yves' note.
I honestly think that, when it comes to EuroCup prestige/excitement
nobody else in France is close to Marseille. Maybe St Etienne when
(If they ever ???) play some Euro Cup again.
Teams like Nantes, Bordeaux or PSG don't even deserve to be mentioned
in this context
re: Canal +
Good news as Game 2 vs Olympiakos will be on TF1. Canal+ and TF1 have
apparently agreed to share Marseille's EuroCup games on a 1/1 basis.
Re: Steve's note
>> However, if you don't subscribe to Canal+ you still have to watch the
>> grubby films in 'wobble-vision' ;-).
Give me a ring and I'll tape them 4 U. =8^) =8^)
Eric
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| 73.115 | You'll go blind... | MOEUR8::BROOKS | | Mon Sep 19 1994 13:49 | 7 |
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Thanks for the offer Eric, unfortunately I don't have a VCR
(magneto-thingummy) here in France :-(
Steve.
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| 73.116 | The man needs it! | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Mon Sep 19 1994 15:26 | 3 |
| Let's start a subscription for you then :-)
/JF
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| 73.117 | Thanx in advance... | EVTDD1::LAFONTAINE | A flame about this high | Thu Sep 22 1994 10:59 | 6 |
| Anybody knows what happened Y-Day night ???
(I think they were palying @ Perpignan or something like that...)
Eric
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| 73.118 | 0:0 | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Thu Sep 22 1994 13:30 | 6 |
| Perpignan-Marseille 0:0
Marseille now in 3rd place (both Gueugnon and Guingamp won).
/JF
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| 73.119 | Financial news ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | Benny the Ball | Mon Apr 10 1995 14:58 | 8 |
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I could have sworn (but I have very occasionally been known to be
mistaken) that I heard some news about Marseille calling in the
receivers or being declared bankrupt or something like that. Does
anyone know anything about it or did I dream the whole thing ?
Malc.
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| 73.120 | You're right | ULYSSE::VISCIGLIO | Pas a l'abri d'un coup de bol | Mon Apr 10 1995 15:33 | 5 |
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Marseille has been declared in "Reglement juduciaire" by the Court.
Please refer to topic 17 for more explanations.
PYV
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| 73.121 | OM eliminated | ULYSSE::VISCIGLIO | Pas a l'abri d'un coup de bol | Wed Apr 12 1995 18:27 | 20 |
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First Cup's semis:
PSG - Marseille 2:0
PSG rapidly scored, after 10 minutes, on a Ricardo's header following
a free kick. Marseille reacted quite well for a 2nd div team, and had
some occasions. At the 36 th minutes, during this OM domination time,
Paris scored a second, a classical, by Weah launched by Ginola.
Then, the match was over, PSG quietly managing the match to the end
without too much efforts.
The match was live on TF1. The first time I 've seen Cantona playing,
I mean Joel Cantona, the brother of the other one. In terms of football
level, nothing to do with the other one. Joel is a defender, and IMO a
very average player. BTW, he is still a sub at OM.
Today, the other semi, the East derby: Strasbourg - Metz
PYV
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