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KERNEL::HAWLEYI "product of the working class"        6 lines   2-DEC-1991 15:29
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    now that there are two Barnsley fans in the conference, i thought i
    would start up this note for the discussion of the best team in
    South Yorkshire...
    Ian.
    

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KERNEL::HAWLEYI "product of the working class"       14 lines   2-DEC-1991 15:31
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    what happened to David Currie?
    he was brilliant...
    he went to forest...
    he was rubbish...
    he went to Oldham...
    he was rubbish...
    he came back to Barnsley...
    
    i havent seen him on the score sheet, whats happened to him?
    isnt Machin playing him?
    
    Ian.
    

    
    Barnsley won 4-1 against Grimsby on Saturday.
    Archdeacon got 2, currie got 1 and i think Saville got the other.
    
    oh well, just thought id mention it!
    Ian.
    

    
    re last..
    
    careful, Ian.....nearly let it out of the bag there ;-)
    
    Andy.
         

    
    i was born in Barnsley! I lived for 18 years in Barnsley!
    Why shouldnt i support Barnsley!!!
    Ian.
    :-}
    

    ...as well...
    

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                                 -< Liverpool >-

>    ...as well...
 

Is Barnsley twinned with Liverpool?


Stuart
   

    
    The truth is that Barnsley are a cr*p second division team, and Ian is
    a glory hunter- so he follows the team that won the league the year he
    finished school -  Liverpool.....   :-)
    
    Paul
    
    PS - have you ever been to a Liverpool game Ian ????????
    

    i meant, why shouldnt i support Barnsley as well as Liverpool,
    after all, i was born in Barnsley...
    or something...
    erm...
    Ian.
    :-)
    

    Paul,
    
    stop abusing me and Barnsley or i wont feed your cats!
    Barnsley are a good second division team, as they have proved
    recently by beating Newcastle 3-0 and Grimsby 4-1.
    as the great Brian Long once said...
    You are only as good as your last game...
    so its a good job that everton managed to snatch a point saturday isnt
    it?
    
    Ian.

    
    	Sorry for opening that little can of worms up for you Ian, but
    	you should have stuck to the Liverpool note topic and not strayed
    	from the faith 8-)
    
    	Don't feel obliged to answer any of those questions, but anything
    	you *do* say may be used in evidence..
    
    	Andy.

    arent there any other people out there who support 2 teams?!?!?
    Ian.
    

    Yup - 1 Yorkshire - Leeds and (speaking quieley) 1 Lancashire - Burnley.
    (Burnley was the nearest club to my home village of Giggleswick, and
    also my dad followed their fortunes. Leeds, they were Yorkshire, and
    the the easiest to get to on the train - the line from Skipton to Colne
    was closed in 1970 - very shortsighted !)
    
    jb.

    
    	>>line from Skipton to Colne
    
    	know it well JB! Know Foulridge?
    
    	Andy.

    Yes, the station is now at Ingrow West on the K&WVLR, and there is a
    long tunnel on the Leeds and Liverpool canal.
    
    Foulridge is real 'Border Country' - I remember going to see my Uncle
    who was headmaster at Kelbrook Prinmary School, and he pointed towards
    'Darkest Lancashire' 200 yards down the road near the old Stone Trough
    Inn.
    
    (Everybody was a Burnley fan then and there)
    
    jb.

    EXACTLY!
    so, Andy, stop taking the mickey cos i support Barnsley too!
    after all, i cant help NOT being born in Liverpool.
    you might say, well, why do you support Liverpool then?
    i learned this weekend that the reason that i started to support the
    pool was because they were against Man United in the '77 cup final
    (when i was a mere 6� years old) and i have ALWAYS hated Man United,
    so i supported them and was upset when they lost.
    
    Ian.
    
    p.s giggleswick - isnt that where Russell Harty lived/was the
        headmaster of the local school?
    

    Giggleswick :-
    
    Russel Harty taught at the school 1964-1966, I just missed being taught
    by him. He did have a house (Rose Cottage) and he spent his last days
    there. He is buried in Giggleswick Churchyard.
    
    This has nowt to do with BFC thought ...
    
    
    jb.

    
    Watford 1-1 Barnsley
    
    reasonable result, that Nogan chappie scored a well deserved equaliser
    after Watfords early pressure had been absorbed by the Barnsley
    defence. Barnsley broke out to take the lead with a goal from Mark
    Robinson. Watford came back with Nogans goal but it was the Watford
    Keeper James who kept a point for the home side with a string of good
    saves as the reds finished the stronger side.
    Ian.
    

    
    Reasonable Christmas for Barnsley, although a poor result against
    Sunderland yesterday. :-(
    Went to see the Swindon game, BRILLIANT match, best ive seen for a long
    time. David Currie came on and looked back to his best (before he went
    to forest and oldham) nice to see him taking on defenders and showing
    his star quality...
    Ian.
    

    
    can anyone tell me how Barnsley went on over the weekend?
    Thanks in advance,
    Ian.
    

Barnsley 0 Cambridge 0

    thanks, i sort of lost touch with everything over the weekend.
    i even had to ask Paul Watterson for the Liverpool result this morning.
    oh, the shame of it.
    Ian.
    

    Barnsley continued their recent run of form (5 wins out of last 6?)
    with a somewhat suprising defeat of league leaders Blackburn.
    And i missed the chance to go :-(
    Blackburn took the lead in the 28th minute through Shearer but Barnsley
    levelled after about 60 minutes and Rammell hit the winner 18 minutes
    from time.
    it seems to me that Barnsley either start the season well and finish
    badly or start the season badly and finish well! if they could get the
    two together i think they could have a good chance of promotion.
    staying up there would be a different matter, but they seem to raise
    their game to higher opposition...(and lower it to lower opposition :-)
    
    Ian.
    

    
    re. last
    
  �  it seems to me that Barnsley either start the season well and finish
  �  badly or start the season badly and finish well! if they could get the
  �  two together i think they could have a good chance of promotion.
    
    Depends which two really, doesn't it.
    
    jeff

    Jeff,
    late night, early morning!
    :-)
    Ian.
    

    
    well, i always said Barnsley would make it into the first division and
    see, i was right!
    
    :-)
    
    Ian.

    An ex-TOBY TYKE,now living on foreign shores,found great delight upon
    finding a conference on the Super Reds.Then great dissapointment to
    find it was a few years since anyone wrote in it.A lot of things have
    happened since the last note,A new manager,A new stand,a new team,and
    the same results.As the season nearly closes,and the Reds looks like
    they are going to be in the first division at least one more season,is
    there any body out there in the great Digital world who would like a
    chat about it all.  
           yours expectantly Neville.

    "Battling Barnsley", as the Chronicle so often refer to them, are on
    a bit of a roll at the moment. They managed to go down 1 nil to Palace
    but that's not too bad - considering. They beat Sunderland by 4 goals
    to nil a while back, which marked the turning point of Barnsleys
    season. They have clawed their way up to 6th(?) from bottom, with games
    in hand and look certain to maintain their mid_to_bottom of the 1st
    division domination for yet another year.
    
    I don't support them (my wife does), but I do like to see them do well,
    as long as they aren't playing The Owls that is.
    
    Al.

    >       -< Viv Richards red n white army >-
    
    Ok, Al, we'll let you off as it's the first day of the cricket season.
    
    My girlfriend is a Barnsley supporter as well. Nowadays, though, she
    seems to be more interested in how Wednesday do - probably because this
    is an indication of what sort of Saturday night she is likely to have.
    
    Paul.
    

    I knew he was a Viv :^)
    
    Al.

    Barnsley lost 5-0 to Middlesboro' last night. This puts them in trouble
    at the bottom of the first division. Anyone got a paper and can post
    the bottom positions?
    
    Paul.
    

    very surprising result last night.Barnsley usually do well against the
    noth eastern teams,and I was counting on a certain victory.I think one
    more win should see them safe,with 3 left to play.Wolverhamton at home
    on saturday could be the one,we'll show the Graham Taylor howlers how
    to play
    Interesting fact time.In every Barnsley win this season they haven't
    conceded a goal.But they have certainley let in a few when they have
    lost,yesterday no exeption.here's to the next few clean sheets
        
     Nev.

		P  Pts
Bolton		42 54
Barnsley	43 49
Watford		44 48
Luton		42 48
Birmingham	44 47
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Oxford		44 46
West Brom	43 45 (surely not?)
Peterborough	44 37

grahame

    Good win last Saturday 2-0 over Wolves.I like it when they win
    Wolves,and they usually do.That makes just about safe,but another
    couple of wins would go down nicely especially the home game with
    Millwall and the return to oakwell of one Mick mcarthey.
     
     Nev
    

    Bah gum ah bet its parky up at stka11:: Another South Yorkshire fan 
    (penchant for the Owls) replying. Watched the Reds at Oakwell many a time 
    (part of the job at the time mind you). Thanks again for Hirsty, I used
    to wonder when we were going to get that other one, but now he's getting
    on a bit so you can keep him.
    
    Cheers, Simon

    What "other one" were you after now.we've all seen the good`ns come and
    go from Oakwell over the years.Hirsty was one of the best,turned out to
    be a real bargain.Larry May was the last one I remember leaving for the
    big brother in Sheffield don't think he had much luck though.But fairs
    fair we get all the old ones given to us when you^ve finished with `em
                 nothing against Viv though I think he'll be a good'n.His
    first season ended on a high yesterday 3-2 over Bolton.A rather
    disapointing season overall,but we had a decent cup run,and excitement
    till the end,hopefully next season will be better.
    By the way does anybody know what happened to Mel Machin did anybody
    give him a job ?
     Nev.

    
    Glad to see that a few more Barnsley fans have emerged while ive been
    away. There were only 2 of us when I set this note up!
    
    Has there been any news on whether Viv Anderson will be leaving Oakwell
    to join Robson at Middlesborough?
    I know that theyve made a formal approach to Barnsley for him.
    
    Ian.

    While on holiday in Portugal recently,I stumbled across a week old
    Daily Express in a rubbish bin.Not wanting to miss any bullshit and
    lies which fill this certain newspaper I retrieved it from it's
    misery.There hidden behind orange peel and banana skin I saw it "Why I
    owe it all to Brain Clough" the story how Danny Wilson got the job at
    Oakwell.I've since returned back to Stockholm not seen the chronicle
    for months can any one fill me in with some information.Did Viv get
    poached to Middlesborough? did the board sack him,after one season? Did
    Eric Winstanley secretly poison him,so he could have the job? or did
    Ronny Glavin come back and visit Viv's wife?
    any information grately recieved,and how will this effect the coming
    season?

    
    Yup, Viv has gone to 'boro apparantly. He's Robbo's assistant up there.
    
    I haven't read the Chronicle for ages, so I can't fill you in on the
    rest of the gossip. I'm back in Barnsley in 3 weeks time, so I'll have
    get gemmed up on the latest then.
    
    Cheers,
    Al.

    Yep, he defected to middlesborough. I dunno how good Danny Wilson is
    going to be as a manager. I say bring back Mel Machin! 
    
    I haven't been back to Barnsley since february, so i'm a bit out of
    touch. Must go back soon and pick up a 'Chron. Oh yeah, and visit my
    mother too before she disowns me!
    
    Ian.

    What with Derby spending all their millions,and Wolves and
    Middelsborough too,Sheff utd,Swindon etc.wanting back in the big
    time,and of course Barnsley spending their 50p's worth I reckon this
    coming season will be the best for a long time and put the premier
    league to shame.I'm not sure who'se going to win it but apart from
    Barnsley Idon't think any of the above mentioned will do it.But it's
    going to be tight just like a..........
    thanks from me Nev.

    tight just like a....... gnats chuff?
    
    As every Barnsley fan knows, Barnsley will NEVER get promoted. 
    Barnsley are a lower-mid first division club. Ask anybody.
    
    Al.

    
    >>  Ask anybody. 
    
    And of course Al you'll ask the missus tonight ???
    
    Dezzz.

    
    Certainly, it will be a major victory if the lads dont get relegated!
    
    Money wins games, Barnsley havent got any money, Barnsley win nowt.
    QED.
    
    Ian.

    >>And of course Al you'll ask the missus tonight ???
    
    Dezzz, I asked her - and she agreed with me :^)
    
    Al.

    
    Barnsley 2-1 Derby County
    
    So, the great Barnsley trash the league favourites!
    Was anyone there to give a report?
    
    Was anyone there at all??? :)
    
    Ian.

    Ian,
    
    Has Danny Wilson taken over at Barnsley after Viv deserted to
    Middlesborough??
    
    Good result on Saturday.
    
    Paul.
    

    Yes,
    
    and he stole the Messiah, Malky Shotton from Ayr to be his 1st team
    coach.
    
    Kev..

    don'tknow how many were there on saturday,but Ibet it was,or almost was
    the capacity crowd for the season.this being about 9,000.There's only
    the new stand remaining,vandals are destroying the rest of the ground
    and putting nice new shiney seats all around it.Well they've finally
    taken the ponty.
      nev.

    After the convincing win in the first round,anybody know who we've got
    in the second round of the burp causing fluid,cup?
    Hope it's a big one we need to fill the stand.
    Thanks in anticipation Nev.

    
    Must have missed this, what was the score?
    
    Ian.

    If you missed the first leg it was Darlington away which ended 2-2
    after Barnsley were leading 2-0.The return leg at Oakwell,reached an
    exciting climax and ended after extra time 0-0.Barnsley going through
    on away goals rule.
       This brings me onto what everyone at Barnsley always talks about,the
    ability to turn it on,and get results against the good top teams,but
    flop miserably against the bottom poor teams.Just think when Barnsley
    finally get into the premier league,they'll win every match (apart from
    Wimbeldon,coventry,and the likes) then tear Europe apart winning
    everything in sight.The bigger the team the bigger the thrashing.
    What an awesome thought,come on you Reds!
     Regards Nev.

    Anybody know the Barnsley v Newcastle result??
    
    Cheers,
    Al

    Newcastle 	2-1  Barnsley
    
    Cole 27	     Redfearn 20
    Fox  85
    
    
    Barnsley aquitted themselves very well and at times made Newcastle look
    a bit shaky. Redfearn scores after 20 mins, the first time that
    Newcastle have been 1-0 down this season.
    
    Ian.

    
    Should be a good return match at Oakwell in front of a capacity crowd
    no doubt. I wonder if the toon army have decided which 5 of their number 
    are taking the away allocation of tickets?
    
    Al.

    
    Is Malky Shotton still playing for you's or is he just coaching now??
    
    He had a great rapport with the fans & the players up here,  a lot of
    the fans were unhappy when he left.
    I'll tell you we could do with him back just now to get us out the rot
    we're in.seemingly it was him that ran the show & Stainrod didnt have
    much to do with the coaching side of the game.
    
    
    cheers Fin.......

    
    Fin ,
    
    
           Simon's doing just fine 8*)
    
    
                                                          SQF Killie...
    
    
    

    Well, I went to see Barnsley play Pompey while I was back for Easter. 
    8 quid for the cheap seats! The weather was foul. I was sat towards the
    visitors end of the "covered" seating of the new stand. The cheap
    seats don't afford much protection however, and I was soon regretting
    not bringing an anorak(!).
    The game was just as foul as the weather, it was a bit like watching
    a sunday league match. Barnsley won 1-0, and all the other results 
    went our way, to lift us briefly into a play-off position.
    Monday at Grimsby brought the boys back down to earth though, despite
    dominating the second half Grimsby's 3rd minute goal was enough to
    earn them the points.
    Saturday saw 'boro at Oakwell, the points were shared. Which
    realistically means the end of Barnsleys play-off hopes. We now have to
    rely on one of the other teams (Reading probably) slipping up, and
    have to win all remaining matches. Sheff Utd, Southend and Oldham to
    go - not easy games.
                                         
    
    Al.

    In the Chronicle there was a lot of speculation that The Owls were
    after Danny Wilson. Both Barnsley and Wednesday are denying it but...
    The Owls chairman was apparantly at Oakwell for the Middlesborough
    match too, so there might be some truth in it.
    
    Al

            <<< Note 70.60 by UNTADE::TOP "I've done some things" >>>

>    In the Chronicle there was a lot of speculation that The Owls were
>    after Danny Wilson.

     This is presumably the same ( Meet ) Danny Wilson, who was responsible 
     for the 80's seminal pop classic, "Mary's Prayer".

     Stuart

   

    
    Stuart,
    
    You are quite correct, following in the footsteps of Kevin Keegan and
    'Hoddle and Waddle' the great Danny Wilson took time off from playing
    for SHeffield Wednesday to produce the said seminal pop classic. He
    then did a stint as the stand-in vocalist for Andrew Ridgeley with
    'Wham'. His talent obviously comes from the fact that his mother is
    Mari Wilson (sp?) who produced that fine example of anti-materialistic
    80's pseudo-ballad "Ive never been to me".
    
    Ian.

    
    I dunno, but he DID follow his uncle Bob into football...
    
    Ian.

    
    Al,
    
    To be honest I reckon the Grimsby game did for us.
    Its a shame because to see Barnsley in the playoffs would be fabulous.
    I mean, this is a team with next to nothing in terms of financial
    backing and its holding its own with the 'big' clubs of the first
    division with really very few outstanding players. Its all just pure
    old fashioned teamwork and team spirit that keeps them going.
    
    Theres always next season, but I think I join Danny Wilson in being
    dead proud of the way theyve stuck to their task this season.
    
    Ian.

    
    Forget Danny Wilson.....Go for Robert Runcie, Shakin Stevens & Mick
    Hucknall.
    They're not getting a game at the moment, as Billy The Fish has
    brought in the Three Degrees to replace them.
    
    

    
    JJ, 
    
    He's DROPPED Mick Hucknall!?!?!?
    
    It'll end in tears.
    
    
    <Ian>

    
    Ian,
    
    He had to drop him, as Mick was asking for too much wages. Billy
    informed him that.........
    
    Money's too tight too mention !
    
    

    
    
     Is Malky Shotton still playing doing the business at Barnsley? He left 
    Ayr Utd a season or two ago and the club has went downhill since. If
    only we could get him back to replace Stainrod, I'm sure things would
    improve drastically.
    
    Danny.

    Shotton is still playing at Oakwell, I couldn't tell you how he's
    doing though - since I only see them every blue moon.
    
    Ian - couldn't agree more, it will be a shame if they don't reach the
    play-offs but they have done really well this season - I think all of
    Barnsley are proud of the team.
    
    I was sad to read the news about Hucknell, and especially Shakey.
    Personally, I can't see the 3 degrees making the same impact as these
    two great strikers. Pitty.
    
    Al 
    
    

    I see Barnsley have sneaked into 3rd spot already!
    
    Al.

    
    Barnsley 2-1 Tranmere
    
    Barnsley are in 2nd!
    

    
    Barnsley 0-5 Birmingham
    
    

    
    Listened in on the world service at half time, 0-0. It must have been
    about five minutes later we were 3 down, I thought they must have
    made a mistake, so I kept listening. 
    They kept interupting the Wolves match commentary to mention the drubbing we
    were getting, 5 bloody nil.
    
    Al.
    

    
    2 players were sent off including Dave Watson in goal.
    It could have been 6. Butler saved a penalty in injury time!
    
    Ian.

    >>"Something inoffensive" 
    
    That's fighting talk down our way :*)
    
    Al.

Once again its time to resurrect this topic after Barnsley make yet another
marvelous start to the season. Expect them to lose 5-0 in their next game.
But for now, they are top of Division 1 after hammering Reading 3-0.

Scottish U-21 Andy Liddell (I once had the dubious pleasure of having him run
rings around me on the footy pitch as he used to board at my best mates house)
scored twice and Sheridan got the other (great shot).

Ian.

Man City 1-2 Barnsley
		marcelle 2

I was in Barnsley Saturday. Trust the team to be playing in Manchester!
No gripes about the result though.




  Team                  Played   Won  Drawn Lost     For Against   Points

1.Barnsley                 4      4     0     0      10     3        12   
2.Norwich City             5      4     0     1       7     3        12   
3.Stoke City               5      3     2     0       9     6        11