Conference trucks::football;1

    Thought I would re-post this season's fixtures from the old conference,
    in case anyone is foolish enough to want to see Norwich this season!
    
Aug 17	Sheff Utd	(h)
Aug 21	Q.P.R.		(a)
Aug 24	Oldham		(a)
Aug 28	Man. City	(h)
Aug 31	Spurs		(h)

Sep  4	Everton		(a)
Sep  7	Man. Utd.	(a)
Sep 14	West Ham	(h)
Sep 18	Sheff. Wed.	(h)
Sep 21	Notts. County	(a)
Sep 28	Leeds		(h)

Oct  5	Wimbledon	(a)
Oct 19	Southampton	(a)
Oct 26	Luton		(h)

Nov  2	Nottm. Forest	(h)
Nov 16	Chelsea		(a)
Nov 23	Coventry	(h)
Nov 30	Liverpool	(a)

Dec  7	Crystal Palace	(h)
Dec 14	Arsenal		(a)
Dec 21	Q.P.R.		(h)
Dec 26	Man. City	(a)
Dec 28	Spurs		(a)

Jan  1	Aston Villa	(h)
Jan 11	Oldham		(h)
Jan 18	Sheff. Utd.	(a)

Feb  1	Southampton	(h)
Feb  8	Luton		(a)
Feb 15	Coventry	(a)
Feb 22	Liverpool	(h)
Feb 29	Crystal Palace	(a)

Mar  7	Arsenal		(h)
Mar 11	Chelsea		(h)
Mar 14	Nottm. Forest	(a)
Mar 21	Everton		(h)
Mar 28	Aston Villa	(a)

Apr  4	Man. Utd.	(h)
Apr 11	West Ham	(a)
Apr 18	Notts. County	(h)
Apr 20	Sheff. Wed.	(a)
Apr 25	Wimbledon	(h)

May  2	Leeds		(a)
    

    
    Norwich beat the local "enemy" Ipswich 3-0 in a friendly on Saturday.
    I did not hear the scorers.
    
    Tim Sherwood and John Polston have both been transfer listed and
    suspended by the club for two weeks after refusing to play in some
    pre-season friendlies.  There was talk some time ago about a swap with
    Arsenal - Sherwood going to Arsenal and Linigan coming back to Norwich. 
    I have not heard anything about this lately - any Arsenal noters know
    anything about this?
    
    Jon

    Jon,
    
    OK own up you sabotaged this notes file to remove all the ant-NOrwich
    notes? So how about reposting the last explanation of the Canaries
    run of defats and draws in the build up to the big game on NOv 30th.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
                                                     

    
    Another win last night, 1-0 at home to Sheffield Wednesday.  Fleck
    scored from a penalty in the first half after Chris Woods had fouled
    Ruel Fox.  The crowd was a disappointing 12,503. I guess a lot of
    people stayed at home to watch the European games on the box.
    
    Norwich have now shot up to 8th in the league, which I think is a
    slightly false position.  They have played more games than most.
    
    The next game is at Notts. County on Saturday.  I shall going to the
    game - hopefully it will be a better performance than last time I saw
    them (at Old Trafford).  I'm confident that we can get another away
    victory on Saturday.
    
    Jon

    
    Notts. County 2
    Norwich City  2
    
    An action-packed game.  Both teams created quite a few chances - in the
    first half Gordon and Crook both had good oppurtunites but blew them. 
    County took the lead after a good turn and shot by Rideout.
    
    After about an hour, Fleck was sent off in bizarre circumstances.  He
    had been booked early in the second half.  After this he was in a
    mega-strop!  A few minutes later, County got a free-kick.  Fleck stood
    less than ten yards away from the ball, and the free-kick hit him.  The
    referee blew for a foul, and showed Fleck the yellow card.  Yes, his
    second yellow card!  The linesman waved his flag vigourously to attract
    the ref's attention to tell him that Fleck had already been booked, and
    so should be sent off.
    
    Once Fleck went off, things seemed to improve for Norwich.  Ullathorpe
    equalised a little while later, and County became much less effective.
    However, county retook the lead when Bowen chested a harmless cross
    past Gunn, for an own goal which went in off the post.  Not quite in the
    Lee Dixon class, but still memorable!
    
    With ten minutes to go, stringer made a double substitution, bringing
    on Beckford and Steve Ball (who I'd never heard of until Saturday!)  In
    injury time, Beckford took an unconvincing dive in the County penalty
    area, but the ref gave a penalty, provoking much abuse from the home
    supporters.  With regular penalty taker Fleck enjoying his early bath,
    Bowen strode up to make ammends  for his earlier howler.  
    
    A draw was a fair result in the end.  One disconcerting part of the day
    was the number of County supporters wearing the away shirts - they are
    bright purple in colour!  Do people really pay good money for these
    horrific shirts ? :-) 
    
    Jon

    Well part of the reason that this note has been quiet for almost a
    month is that Norwich's only living supporter has been out of the
    country and away from the seemingly endless series of defeats and draws
    (:==:).
    
    I know this to be true as I met the great Canary follower himself at
    a neutral venue in Orlando Florida recently. At a bar where they
    thankfully served warm ESB and Bass they had posted some real football
    scores which included a 3-1 defeat at Wimbledon and i'm sure when Jon
    returns he will correct me if i'm wrong when I say I only mentioned
    this result to him a few hundred times that evening!! Of course since
    we both knew the european scores also I think we achieved a score draw
    with him mentioning the Kuusyi Lahti result!!
    
    At that time we hadn't heard the Rumbles second leg scores but I'm sure
    he's glad that they scraped there way through and have yet another
    easy draw in the next round.
    
    Of course the big moment for us comes on Nov 30th when Liverpool
    and Norwich meet and they'll certainly be an increase in noting
    activity here then.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    
    As Andrew said, I've been off for three weeks.  In that time the
    results have been
    
    Norwich 2 Leeds 2
    Wimbledon 3 Norwich 1
    Norwich 2 Charlton 0 (Rumbelows cup)
    Southampton 0 Norwich 0
    
    So it's been business as usual (loads of draws).  Fortunately I was not
    able to get tickets for the Southampton game - the game sounds totally
    forgettable, and Saturday was freezing cold (especially when you've
    just got off a 'plane from Florida).
    
    Andrew,
    
    If I'd have seen you a couple of days later we could have discussed the
    rugby results!
    
    Cheers,
    
    Jon

    
    Norwich beat Luton 1-0 on Saturday.  Rob Newman scored the only goal,
    but according to reports in yesterday's paper, Luton's 'keeper kept
    them in the game - he made three or four excellent saves.
    
    Also read yesterday that Norwich are interested in signing Perry Groves
    from the Gooners - I hope that it's not true!!
    
    We have got a potentially difficult game on Wednesday against Brentford
    in the Rumbelows Cup.  
    
    Jon

    
    Norwich 4
    Brentford 1
    
    A good win last night.  Two goals for Beckford, one for Fleck and an
    own goal.  When's the draw for the next round?
    
    Jon

    
    Another draw on Saturday, 0-0 against Forest.  Apparently we missed
    some good chances - Fleck missed an open goal.  It's now 8 draws out of
    15 matches.  Does anyone know what the record is for most draws in a
    season?  I seem to remember that Norwich had over 20 draws in one season
    in the late 70's or early 80's while in the second division.
    
    We've been drawn at home to West Ham in the Rumbelows Cup.  Earlier in
    the season, we beat them 2-1 in the league, so I'm fairly confident we
    can beat them again!
    
    The papers today say that Dale Gordon is about to sign for Rangers for
    �1.2 million.  I'm surprised that Gordon has not attracted a big offer
    before now.  He came up through the youth team, and has been a valuable
    player in the last few seasons.  However, I do not think that losing
    him will be as big a blow as losing Townsend and Phelan was.
    
    Jon

    
    Excellent result on Saturday - 3-0 away at Chelsea.  Fleck scored two,
    and Bowen got the other.  We've now moved up to 8th in the league. 
    Sherwood played his first game of the season, after falling out with
    Stringer over a pre-season friendly.  
    
    There are still rumours about Fleck going to Chelsea, but he was quoted
    as  saying that he's quite happy to stay at Norwich until his contract
    runs out at the end of next season.
    
    Jon

    
    Norwich 3
    Coventry 2
    
    Another good result for Norwich.  Coventry twice took the lead, but a
    good recovery secured the points.  The goals were scored by Fleck,
    Bowen and Sutton (he came on as a sub - I've never heard of him
    before).  The last two goals were scored in the last 5 minutes of the
    game.  We've now lost just one out of our last ten league games.
    
    Next week, it's Liverpool away.
    
    Jon

    
    Liverpool 2
    Norwich 1
    
    This was Norwich's first defeat since the first week of October.  I
    didn't see the goals on the TV, but apparently Molby's goal was
    special.  Beckford scored for Norwich.  Despite the defeat, we are
    still 8th in the league.
    
    Our next game is on Wednesday - at home to West Ham in the Rumbelows
    Cup.
    
    Jon

    Jon,
    
    The tears are still rolling down my face ... ha ha ha
    
    Roll on Feb 22nd for another thrashing.
    
    I'll take a warm beer off you in two weeks
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    
    Norwich 2
    West Ham 1
    
    Norwich go through to the quarter-finals of the Runbelows Cup.  All the
    goals came in the second half.  Fleck scored the first with a volley
    from outside the penalty area.  Small equalised for the Hammers.  In
    injury time Bowen was bundled over in the penalty area and Fleck scored
    from the resulting penalty.  The report in the paper said it was a
    cracking game, with both sides playing neat passing football.
    
    Jon
    

    
    
     How many goals has Fleck scored this season? I've seen a few on the
    box and some of them are certainly contenders for goal of the season.
    
     Maybe Andy Roxbourgh will include him a future Scotland squad if he
    keeps knocking them in.
    
     Danny...

    
    Danny,
    
    I do not know Fleck's total for the season, but he has now scored 6
    goals in the last 6 games.  He seems to have hit a good run at the
    moment.  Has he played for Scotland since the last World Cup?  Or even
    been in the squad?
    
    Jon

    
    
    Jon,
    
       Fleck hasn't been selected for a Scotland squad since the World Cup
    in Italy. With Mo Johnston's international career probably over, I
    would expect Fleck to be selected for the next squad for the game
    against Northern Ireland in February.
    
     Interestingly, today's Daily Record has a full page on Fleck and his
    desire to get back into international football. Hopefully his wish will
    be fulfilled as he always gave 110% when selected and gave Scotland
    some different options up front.
    
     cheers,
    
            Danny...

    
    Norwich were involved in three draws on Saturday:
    
    We drew 3-3 with Crystal Palace.  The first two goals were both own
    goals.  Norwich's other goals were from Beckford and Newman.
    
    In the Rumbelows Cup, we've drawn Tottenham away.  This could have been
    a lot worse - at least we avoided Leeds and Man Utd.
    
    In the FA Cup, we're at home to Barnsley, who are struggling in the
    second division.
    
    On Saturday, we go to Highbury.  If Arsenal's defence are as charitable
    as they were yesterday, I think we will be able to get a good result. 
    I'm planning to go to the game, but have yet to see us win this season,
    so I might put a jinx on us again!!
    
    Jon

    
    Battled my way through a pea-souper on the M4, and met up with a friend
    in Islington for a pre-match drink.  Then just before we were going to
    set out for Highbury, the landlord put Ceefax on the TV, and we saw the
    game was off.  What else was there to do but stay in the pub all
    afternoon?!  It's a good job the game was off - it was bloody freezing
    outside.
    
    Jon

    re.20
    -< F***ing fog >-
    
    shouldnt there be 1 more * in FREEZING fog?
    :-)
    Ian.
    

    Yes, there should be one more * in 'Freezing fog!'. By the way we were
    going to thrash Arsenal, lucky old QPR eh? Stealing the points off of
    us with another flukey Dennis Bailey goal(ex Farnborough Town). When
    are we going to stop selling all of our best players? Here are just a
    few of who we have sold over the years:
    Kevin Drinkell (RANGERS)
    Chris Woods    (RANGERS)
    Dave Watson    (EVERTON)
    Steve Bruce    (MAN.UTD)
    Mike Phelan    (MAN.UTD)
    Robert Rosario (COVENTRY)
    Malcolm Allen(not one of our best) (MILLWALL)
    Dale 'JUDAS' Gordon (RANGERS)
    
    And who may I ask have we bought?
    Players of such quality as Rob Newman and Darren Beckford!!!!!
    
    BILL
     

    
    A very bad Christmas for Norwich.
    
    Norwich 0 QPR 1
    
    QPR scored their winner in injury time.  
    
    Man City 2 Norwich 1
    
    Norwich took an early lead, but let Man. City back into the game.
    
    Spurs 3 Norwich 0
    
    The scoreline did not truly reflect the game.  Norwich played quite
    well but bad finishing meant we lost.
    
    Norwich 2 Villa 1
    
    A much needed win.  Goals from a Fleck penalty and the winner from
    Ullathorne gave us our first win in six matches.
    
    
    There are two important cup games coming up in the next week:  
    v. Barnsley in the FA Cup
    v. Spurs in the Rumbelows Cup Quarter final.
    
    I hope that Spurs will be complacent for the Rumbelows match after
    their victory against us last Saturday!  With a place in the UEFA Cup
    for the winners of the Rumbelows Cup this year, I'm sure both teams
    will be trying their hardest.
    
    Jon

    
    Scraped through 1-0 against Barnsley on Saturday.  Again, the winner
    was a Fleck penalty, this time with three minutes to go.  We've drawn
    Millwall at home in the 4th round.
    
    Big game on Wednesday - Spurs away in the Rumbelows Cup.
    
    Jon

    
    Spurs 2
    Norwich 1
    
    We were 13 minutes away from victory in last night's Rumbelows Cup �
    final!  Norwich started well, creating a couple of early chances. 
    Fleck opened the scoring after half an hour with a shot which was
    deflected off Mabbutt. 
    
    In the second half Norwich were content to let Spurs come at them. 
    Norwich were defending very well, only letting Spurs reate a couple of
    half chances.  However, with 13 mins to go, a long throw-in was headed
    on by Stewart to Walsh, who looped a header over a stranded Gunn.  Then
    five minutes later Spurs got a corner which resulted in a scramble in
    the box.  In typical fashion, Linekar lashed the loose ball into the
    net to give Spurs victory.  Norwich had 2 chances in the second half -
    the first Fleck was denied by Thorsveld's foot, and the other Bowen
    could not quite force the ball over the line. 
    
    I was rather disappointed by Norwich's attitude in the second half -
    defend in numbers and only go forward on an occasional counter attack.
    If they had tried attacking a bit more and scored a second, they could
    have won.  I was very impressed by young Sutton at centre back.  He
    kept Linekar quiet for most of the game.  It was also good to see Crook
    back in the team.
    
    The old Tim Sherwood/Andy Linigan rumour has started up again.  I do
    not know why Norwich want to get Linigan back - on last night's
    performance he would not be able to get into the team.  However,
    Sherwood does not seem to have a future at the club, so get rid of him
    for cash, not for Linigan!
    
    Jon

re: .22

Bill

Think about the players they sold and the profit they made on those players.

Most of them came from smaller clubs and were sold for much larger sums. Two
important players you missed from the list were

	Andy Townsend (CHELSEA)
	Andy Linighan (ARSENAL)

Both of whom went for over �1M. Townsend came from Southampton(?) and Linighan
from Oldham for �x00,000 each. So from a business perspective the club is trying
to run at a profit. Chairman Robert Chase has even gone on record and said as
much.

I'd wholeheartedly agree that the club shouldn't be run like this. The season
they finished fourth and reached the FA Cup semis would have been a good year
upon which to put together a good side, but the players that helped make the
side were let go.

Oh I forgot Dale Gordon (RANGERS) - mind you since he only really plays 1 in
every 4 games that may not be such a great loss.

/Kev.

    
    re .-1
    
    I agree that Robert Chase does tend to try to make as much money as
    possible, but does not make it available to buy players.  Norwich's
    largest signing, Darren Beckford, has not lived up to his �900,000
    price tag.  If we had been able to keep the 1988/89 team together, I'm
    sure that we would have won something.
    
    Another defeat on Saturday, 2-1 to Oldham.  We have now only won 1 game
    in the last 7 in the League.  Beckford scored for Norwich, after
    Oldham's keeper dropped the ball at his feet in the six-yard box. 
    
    Jon

    
    An eventful game at Bramall Lane on Saturday.  Norwich lost 1-0 to
    Sheffield United.  During the first half Gunn ricked his back, and
    apparently was not very mobile.  At half time he  was substituted, with
    Darren Beckford taking over in goal.  Beckford played well in goal, but
    Sheff Utd scored after a scramble in Norwich's penalty area.  We are
    gradually slipping down the table, and need a couple of wins badly to
    prevent being dragged into the relegation zone.
    
    Cup action on Saturday - at home to Millwall.  They got a good result
    an Saturday - beating Middlesbrough 2-0, so it should be a tough match
    for us.
    
    Jon

    
    There's speculation in today's paper that Stringer could be sacked, to
    make way for Bobby Robson.  However, the chairman said that the club
    had not been in touch with Robson.  Also saw a report in another paper
    on Saturday that if Norwich lost to Millwall in the FA Cup that
    Stringer would be sacked and Ray Harford was top of the list for
    replacements.  I know Norwich are going through a bad spell at the
    moment, but I do not think Stringer should be sacked.  He has done very
    well, considering he has been forced to sell our best players.
    
    Jon
    

    
    Norwich 2 Southampton 1
    
    We actually managed a league victory, only the second win in nine
    games.  Ullathorne put Norwich ahead just after half-time.  Then
    Cockerill equalised with a stunning shot from outside the penalty area.
    The winner was scored by Fleck, pouncing on the ball after a good save
    by Flowers from a Bowen shot.
    
    On Wednesday we play Millwall in a re-arranged FA Cup 4th Round tie.
    Gunn will still not be available, so Walton will continue in goal.
    
    Jon

    
    Norwich 2
    Millwall 1
    
    Goals by Bowen and Fleck (his 16th of the season) secured a win in this
    rearranged FA Cup 4th Round game.  Norwich's hero was Mark Walton, the
    'keeper who is standing-in for the injured Bryan Gunn.  He saved a
    penalty on the stroke of half-time, and also made some excellent saves
    in the second half.
    
    We've got Notts. County in the next round at Carrow Road.  With so many
    first division teams already out, perhaps this could be our year ?!!
    
    Jon

    
    Another away loss, 2-0 at Luton.  We are now 16th in the League with 33
    points, which is only 6 more than West Ham who are third from bottom.
    We need to sort ourselves out soon, otherwise we will be dragged into
    the relegation battle.  We can start by beating the Arse tomorrow
    night.
    
    Jon

    
    Norwich managed to get an away point at last, our first point in 6 away
    matches.  We drew 1-1 at Arsenal.  Norwich took the lead after about 60
    minutes through Ruel Fox.  Arsenal equalised a few minutes later
    through Merson.  The report in today's paper says it was a very poor
    game.
    
    Other news - Tim Sherwood has joined Blackburn Rovers on a month's
    loan, with a possibility of a �500,000 permanent move at the end of it.
    Robert Fleck has been included in the Scotland squad for the friendly
    next week (against Northern Ireland I think).  Gunn is not in the squad
    as he is still recovering from his back injury.
    
    Jon

    
    A resounding 3-0 victory against Notts. County in the Cup.  Sutton
    scored two goals and Phillips got the other.  Sutton is a defender, but
    was playing at centre forward on Saturday.  Certainly seems to have
    been a successful experiment!  The reporter on Radio 5 said Norwich
    abandoned their passing game in favour of a more direct style i.e.
    hoofing it up to Sutton.  As we saw yesterday in the live TV game,
    stylish football does not always lead to success.
    
    In the draw for the quarter finals, it's away to Bolton or Southampton. 
    Can't really complain at that, although it would have been nice to get
    a home draw.
    
    On Saturday, it's back to the League, entertaining Liverpool at Carrow
    Road.  Let's hope that we can go one better than our East Anglian
    rivals yesterday.
    
    Jon

    
    Norwich 3
    Liverpool 0
    
    What a result for Norwich!  I can't remember the last time that Norwich
    beat Liverpool by such a clear margin.  The goals were scored by
    Woodthorpe (a defender) and two by Fleck.  That takes Fleck's total up
    to 18 this season.  The Liverpool defence was very weak, but according
    to Radio 5 Norwich played some of their best football of the season. We
    are now in 11th place in the league.
    
    Jon

    
    Crystal Palace 3
    Norwich 4
    
    This was only Norwich's 3rd away win of the season.  We were 4-2 up at
    half-time, thanks to goals by Sutton, Goss, Newman and Fox.  Palace
    staged a late recovery, but we managed to hang on to the points.
    
    That's now three consecutive wins, with a total of 10 goals scored. 
    The threat of relegation has now disappeared, and the pressure on
    Stringer has been lifted.
    
    We go to Coventry on Wednesday night, then it's the big one at the Dell
    next Saturday against Southampton in the 6th round of the FA Cup.  The
    league game there earlier in the season was 0-0, and we beat them 2-1
    at Carrow Road a month ago.  If we continue our form from the last few
    weeks, then we could be in the semi-finals.   It's our first away FA
    Cup tie for two seasons.  
    
    Jon

    Could anyone please tell me how to get to Carrow Rd. from Norwich train
    station, what's the best way to get there and how long does it take???
    
    Noel

    
    Noel,
    
    Turn left out of the station and walk along Riverside Road.  The river
    will be on your right.  After about � mile, Riverside Road meets Carrow
    Road.
    
    If you're coming from London, the train from Liverpool Street station
    takes just over 1� hours I think.
    
    Jon

    
    Southampton 0
    Norwich 0
    
    By all accounts a rather poor game, both sides not wanting to make a
    mistake.  Fortunately I did not go, instead I watched the rugby! The
    replay is at Carrow Road on Wednesday week, with the winners playing
    the winners of the Chelsea v Sunderland tie.  Norwich beat Southampton
    2-1 at home in the league last month, so repeat of that would be very
    welcome.
    
    Jon

    
    I was on a course last week, so have not been able to enter a note
    until now.  Norwich beat Southampton 2-1 in last Wednesday's FA Cup
    Quarter Final.  Radio 5 broadcast commentary on the second period of
    extra time.  It was real nail-biting stuff, with Sutton getting the
    winner with just four minutes to go!  I do not think I would have been
    able to listen to the penalty shoot-out.  It was a niggly match, with
    Matt LeTissier and Barry Horne being sent off, both for retaliation.
    
    The semi-final is at Hillsborough against Sunderland.  We won't get a
    better chance than this to get to our first FA Cup final.  A repeat of
    the 1985 Milk Cup final would be very welcome.  I'm still trying to get
    a ticket for the match.  Norwich will get less tickets for the game as
    their average home gate is less than Sunderland's.
    
    Fleck broke two ribs during the game, and is doubtful for the semi. 
    Beckford will be suspended for the semi as he was sent off in a reserve
    game.  So it looks like it will be Sutton and Fox up front.
    
    On Saturday Norwich beat Everton 4-3, with Beckford scoring twice in
    the last ten minutes to steal victory.  Are there any match reports
    from our Irish Everton fans?
    
    Jon

    
    Norwich 0
    Sunderland 1
    
    Norwich deserved to lose to Sunderland yesterday.  The only good thing
    about it was that I was unable to get a ticket, so avoided a long,
    miserable journey home!  They did not play at all well, no neat passing
    as they did in the first half of the season.  The tactics were sending
    long balls up to Sutton.  Fleck had a poor game (he wasn't the only
    one) - I'm not convinced that he was fit for the game.  This is the
    second FA Cup semi-final they have lost in three years, and in both
    games they failed to perform when it mattered most.
    
    Norwich created a few chances, but nobody could apply the final,
    decisive touch.  Sutton missed a couple of difficult chances, and Bowen
    and Fox both came close from free-kicks.  John Byrne for Sunderland was
    a handful for the defence, and his goal was the result of a good move
    down the right, with the cross coming over for an unmarked Byrne to
    head into an empty net.
    
    Jon

    
    A miserable end to the season.  We have now lost our last seven
    matches, the latest results being 0-1 against Notts. County and 0-2
    against Sheff. Wednesday.  It is still possible that we will be
    relegated, but for that to happen Norwich must lose their last two
    games (at home to Wimbledon and away to Leeds), and Luton must win
    their last two games.  Coventry must also get at least three points
    from their last two games to finish above us.
    
    Jon

    
    A magnificent result for us on Saturday.  Well, after seven consecutive
    defeats, a 1-1 draw against Wimbledon is a good result!  We have now
    avoided relegation, but only just.  Our form over the second half of
    the season has been appaling.  This has also coincided with a change in
    tactics to a more direct style.  Are these two facts related?
    
    Despite a poor league position, it's not been too bad a season.  We
    reached the quarter finals of the Rumbelows Cup, and the semi final of
    the FA Cup.  I hope that some money is made available before next
    season so that we can strengthen our squad.  Fleck's contract expires
    at the end of the season, so I would not be surprised to see him leave
    for a bigger club (following in the great Norwich tradition).
    
    Anyway, just Leeds away next week.  I do not think that we will spoil
    their party!!
    
    Jon

Dave Stringer has resigned as manager of Norwich.

�.

    
    Last Friday Dave Stringer resigned as manager.  He will become a
    director of the club.  He was manager for about five seasons, in which
    time Norwich reached the FA Cup semi finals twice, and reached their
    highest ever league position (4th).  His teams played very attractive
    football, with neat passing rather than route one.  However, sometimes
    they tried to be a little to clever in front of goal instead of
    shooting, therefore not scoring as often as they should.
    
    Stringer has been asked to draw up a short-list of replacements.  The
    favourite seems to be Mike Walker, the current reserve team manager. 
    Also mentioned are: David Pleat, Martin O'Neill, Neil Warnock and David
    Webb.  
    
    Jon

    
    Phil Neal, the ex-Liverpool and England full-back, is expected to
    become the next manager.  He is expected to sign a contract at the
    weekend.  John Deehan, the ex-Norwich and Aston Villa striker, is also
    likely to join the club as a coach.
    
    Does anyone know how good a manager Neal was at Bolton?
    
    Jon

Phil Neal's track record probably suits Norwich :-

Bolton are a mid-table 3rd division (now 2nd division) outfit 
that lost in the playoffs season before last.

    
    Well, Phil Neal did not get the job as manager.  Apparently he refused
    to move with his family to Norwich for the first year.  The chairman
    Robert Chase said this was unacceptable, so has appointed Mike Walker
    as the new manager.  Walker was the reserve team boss last season, and
    is an ex-manager of Colchester United.  John Deehan is to be his
    assistant.  David Williams, who was assistant to Stringer, is leaving
    the club because he wanted the manager's job, and does not want to
    continue as number two.
    
    Now that the manager has been sorted out, perhaps there will be a few
    transfers.  We need a good striker, and a creative midfielder.
    
    Jon

    
    Norwich have rejected a �2 million offer from Chelsea for Robert Fleck. 
    The Norwich manager said he wants Fleck to stay.  However, I think that
    they are waiting for a higher bid to come in, probably from Spurs.
    
    Jon

    Jon,
    
    2 million for Fleck take the money and run! You can plant it in the ground
    or whatever Norwich do with all the money they make in transfers each
    year. How much is they've squandered in the last 4 years now - must be
    at least 15 million (townsend, rosario, bruce etc etc ...)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
                                                              

    
    Can anyone enlighten me as to who Norwich play on September 19th ?
    
    

    RE-1...
    
    
    Why

>>                       <<< Note 53.52 by KIRKTN::JJACK >>>
>>                    -< And is it a home fixture ??????    >-
>>    Can anyone enlighten me as to who Norwich play on September 19th ?

    Yeah.....  I think your playing Sheff Wed' at home...


				Alboy.

    
    I just received the fixtures this weekend, but forgot to bring them in
    today.  I'll type 'em in tomorrow.
    
    Jon

	1992

Aug 15	Arsenal	(a)
Aug 19	Chelsea (h)
Aug 22	Everton (h)
Aug 26	Man. City (a)
Aug 29	C. Palace (a)

Sep  2	Nottm. Forest (h)
Sep  5	Southampton (h)
Sep 12	Chelsea (a)
Sep 19	Sheff. Wed. (h)
Sep 26	Coventry (a)

Oct  3	Blackburn (a)
Oct 17	QPR (h)
Oct 24	Liverpool (a)
Oct 31	Middlesbro' (h)

Nov  7	Oldham (a)
Nov 21	Sheff. United (h)
Nov 28	Aston Villa (a)

Dec  5	Wimbledon (h)
Dec 12	Man. United (a)
Dec 19	Ipswich (h)
Dec 26	Spurs (h)
Dec 28	Leeds (a)

	1993

Jan  9	Sheff. Wed. (a)
Jan 16	Coventry (h)
Jan 27	C. Palace (h)
Jan 30	Everton (a)

Feb  6	Arsenal (h)
Feb 10	Southampton (a)
Feb 13	Nottm. Forest (a)
Feb 20	Man. City (h)
Feb 27	Blackburn (h)

Mar  6	QPR (a)
Mar  9	Sheff. United (a)	
Mar 13	Oldham (h)
Mar 20	Wimbledon (a)
Mar 24	Aston Villa (h)

Apr  3	Man. United (h)
Apr 10	Spurs (a)
Apr 12	Leeds (h)
Apr 17	Ipswich (a)

May  1	Liverpool (h)
May  8	Middlesbro' (a)

    Jon,
    
    How about these for well in advance predictions:
    
    Oct 24th Liverpool 3 Norwich 0 (Rush, Saunders, Houghton)
    
    May 1    Norwich 0 Liverpool 0 (obvious really)
    
    Regards,                                        
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    
    Andrew,
    
    I'm always willing to take a fiver off you.  If you take your predicted
    scores, and I have all other scores, then the bet's on!
    
    Jon

    Jon,
    
    No I think you have to come up with alternate scores and if it's a
    double-bet you'll have to wait 18 months for your money by which time
    a fiver won't even buy a gallon of petrol.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    
    According to the radio this morning, Norwich have offered �2m to Man
    Utd for Beardsmore, Robins and Phelan.
    
    Paul

Grab it Fergie.

That's a bargain if ever I saw one! Robins & Beardsmore
both deserve 1st Team football. It's a shame United have
too many potential 1st team players!!!!
I like it that though! eh watty???


Si

    Hasn't Robins already gone to Germany?
    
    If he hasn't then it must be 1million for Beardsmore, 1.5 million for
    Robins and -0.5 million for Phelan
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    The home game against Ipswich is on SKY on Mon. 21st December.

    
    Fleck has finally been sold, for �2.1m to Chelsea.  He walked out on
    Norwich earlier this week after they said that they did not want him to
    leave.  I do not think that Fleck has been totally committed to Norwich
    for the last couple of years, so I'm glad that he's gone, especially
    for such a lot of dosh!  However, the money must be spent on a couple
    of new players, and not spent on ground improvements or whatever.  I
    heard that Norwich are going to make a new bid for Mark Robins.
    
    Jon

    
    Arsenal 2
    Norwich 4
    
    What a start to the season!  We were outplayed in the first half, and
    went 2-0 down in the first � hour.  But when new signing Robins came on
    as a second half substitute, everythying changed.  Arsenal's defence
    seemed to imitate their supporters on the North Bank mural, letting
    Norwich score 4 goals in 15 minutes.  Robins scored the first and last
    ones, with Phillips and Fox getting the other two.  The last one was
    hilarious, with Adams not knowing what to do with the ball when he
    realised he couldn't pass back to Seaman.  Robins calmly took the ball
    off Adams, and lobbed Seaman, who was on the edge of the penalty area.
    Mark Robins could turn out to be the bargain of the season, at only
    �800,000.
    
    One reason for Norwich's success could be their new shirts.  They are
    mostly yellow, but with green and white bits all over them.  It looks
    dreadful, but will surely dazzle some defenders, allowing us to score
    plenty of goals!!  When I saw them on Match of the Day, I thought my TV
    had developed a fault, but then I realised that they were for real.
    
    Jon

    And for 49 sovs, yes only 49 (complete kit) you too can look like a 
    canary painted by Pollock. Isn't this kit business becoming a bit silly? 
    Not just the designs but the prices. Norwich have thus secured themselves
    a place at the top of the kit-price league. QPR, on the other hand,
    are charging around 19.00 a shirt. Why the difference? Because, 
    according to an R's spokesman they produce their own kit and don't 
    wish to rip their fans off. Nice one.
    
    barry.
    

    Robins does it again as Norwich look down proudly at the rest of the 
    league. He could out turn to be a hero for Norwich. He was never given
    a fair chance at united - just like Dion Dublin won't be - but when he
    was on he won the cup for them in 1990. 

Since my last reply, Norwich have drawn with Everton 1-1, after being 
played off the park!  Last night they lost 3-1 to Man City, their first 
defeat in the Premier League. Out scorer was Megson, against his former 
club.

We go to Palace on Saturday, and are at home to Forest on Monday night 
on Sky.

In the draw for the Coca-Cola Cup (what a stupid name!) we have got 
Carlisle (can't see too many away supporters for that one).

Jon

Two wins over the weekend: 2-1 away at Palace, and 3-1 at home to 
Forest.  Power and Phillips scored at Palace - Phillips' goal was a 
spectacular volley from the edge of the penalty area, and Power's was a 
header.

Last night our scorers were Crook direct from a free-kick, Power and 
Phillips (again).  I didn't see the game, but apparently Forest 
controlled much of the game.  That seems to have been the pattern in 
most of our games this season - the opposition dominates the match, but 
we score the goals.  Over the last couple of seasons it has been the 
other way round.  It seems that the new manager, Walker, has added some 
much-needed bite to the team.

So, who would have predicted that the first few leaders of the Premier 
League would be Coventry, QPR, Blackburn and Norwich?  However, by the 
end of the season, I'm sure we'll be nearer bottom than top!

Jon

Did Robins play last night?

He was a sub, but wasn't used.

    Why was he on the bench ??? Injured ?? or has been injured ??
    
    Keith.

    re -last
    
    >> why was he on the bench ??? Injured ?? or has been injured ??
    
    
    Robins was sub last night, and has just recovered from some injury.
    His replacement is Power, who last night played out of his skin, and
    well deserved the MoM award. Robins was seen warming up a couple of
    times, and I would have imagined if needed i.e. losing, he would have
    been put on.
    
    RE- a few back
    
    Forest dominated the middle have of the game, 15 mins either side of
    half time, apart from that Norwich dominated, with some VERY neat one
    touch passing. Lee Power and David Phillips(ex Man City) played
    extremely well. Phillips and Norwich's 3rd goal was a great strike, one
    to match the one on Saturday.
    
    FOREST - Need to sort out their defence, it is a shambles. Bannister as
    a forward was quite slow, but service was not very good. Forest have a
    young Icelandic player on the right wing...he was useless. Did not get
    a cross  in all night, and contributed in style by providing Power with
    Norwich's 2nd goal.
    
    NORWICH -  A team to watch out for. There passing is excellent, are a
    hard tackling team, but need to keep their head up when they are down.
    This was just a small lapse last night, but with soem good young
    players and Brian Gunn in goals, they should be in the top half come
    the end of the season.
    
    
    mac
    

Norwich 1
Southampton 0

We scraped a win with an 88th minute goal from Robins.  From the 
highlights on Match of the Day, it looked a poor game.  Rob Newman had a 
couple of chances for Norwich in the first half, but wasted them.  
Robins came on as substitute in the first half for Butterworth, who was 
injured.

To keep winning while playing badly is a good sign, but can we keep it 
up?  I hope so, but surely our luck will change soon.  Still, I'll enjoy 
it while it lasts.

Jon  

Chelsea 2
Norwich 3

Well, we won't get a luckier win all season!  We went 2-0 down in the first 
half, with Fleck terrorising our defence.  Then in the second half, Norwich 
improved enormously and scored three times, thanks mostly to some appaling 
mistakes by Beasant, the Chelsea 'keeper.  The first goal was a 
half-hearted shot by Robins, which Beasant should have saved easily, but he 
let it in.  The second goal was from a cross on the right.  Beasant came to 
meet the cross, got nowhere near it, and Robins steered the ball into the 
open goal.  The third goal was the most laughable.  Phillips hit a shot 
from the edge of the penalty area.  It didn't have much power, but somehow 
Beasant dived over it and let it creep in the net.

Robins has now scored 6 goals in 6 games.  At �800,000, he must the bargain 
of the season.  Ferguson must be regretting letting him go.

Jon

Norwich 1
Sheff Wed 0

Just for a change, Norwich took the lead in the first half.  Amazingly this 
was the first time this season that we have been leading at half-time.  The 
goal was a powerful header from Newman, after good work by Robins to get a 
cross in from the left.

A few more wins and we'll be safe from relegation!  

Jon

re -.1

> A few more wins and we'll be safe from relegation!  

Is that all you are looking at this season? It could really be the year of the
minnow to win the league and prove that it is possible to have success without 
buying talent in excess of �2.50.

                        James.

James,

Maybe I should have added a smiley to my reply.  It was said with tongue 
firmly in cheek.  Realisticly we will not win the League, but a final place 
in the top three or four should be the target, with a possibility of 
qualifying for Europe.

Jon

Coventry 1
Norwich 1

Saw the highlights on Match of the Day.  It looked a good game, with a draw 
being the right result.  Norwich scored first - Crook played a one-two with 
Sutch on the edge of the penalty area before shooting into the far corner 
of the net.  Once they had scored, Norwich seemed to take control until 
Coventry equalised.  Ndlovu's goal was well taken, especially the dummy to 
get Gunn to commit himself, but there was also some bad defending which let 
him get a sight a goal.  The second half was a bit more disappointing, 
judging by the fact the the highlights concentrated a lot more on the first 
half.

So, a quarter of the season has gone and Norwich are still on top!  Is this 
what the Premier League meant by "a whole new ball game"?  Next week, it's 
another top of the table clash, away at Blackburn.  Norwich are bound to 
lose, as this will be my first visit to watch them this season.

Jon

    NO MATCH REPORT THIS WEEK ???

	re: -1
	There had to be one didn't there!!

	Us City fans stay relatively quiet about the
	teams performance, relative the likes of Man U.,
	Liverpool et al., yet when it comes down to losing
	all manner of vultures swoop out of the closet
	and say that its gone pretty quiet in here.

	It sure has because there's not many of us
	in the first place.

	Ask any Norwich fan and he would have been more
	than happy just to see Norwich stay up this
	season. To be top for some considerable time
	is somewhat pleasing given the form of the
	larger teams in the League.

	So Norwich got beat, all they have to do now
	is bounce back and get back on top!!

	Regards from a somewhat sorry and dejected City
	fan,
		/Kevin

	P.S. Please note Ian Button said this was likely
	to be a loss since he was going to the game. He
	wasn't half right!!

As Kevin said, I did go to the game :-(  I'll post a match report later.

Jon

What a game for me to choose to see Norwich for the first time this season. 
The journey up to Blackburn was awful, due to the rain and loads of spray 
on the motorway.  We reached the ground at about 1.45, parked the car and 
headed for the pub - I believe it was called the Fenchurch.  They served a 
fine pint of Thwaites.  When we left the pub it was still raining.

When inside the ground, it was apparent that we were not covered by the 
roof on the stand, so we were going to get very wet!  The pitch at Ewood 
Park was in excellent condition - one of the best that I've seen.  The 
teams were announced, and this was good news (or so we thought) as 
Butterworth had recovered from injury to replace Polsten.

The game got off to a bright start, and Blackburn were soon pressing.  The 
first goal came as a result of some great work by Shearer.  Butterworth had 
a two yard start on Shearer down the right, but Shearer still got there 
first.  He crossed to an unmarked Wegerle, who had time to fall over, get 
up and still score.  Already the Norwich defence looked to be having a bad 
day.

A similar move brought the second goal.  Shearer crossed from the right, 
and Sherwood, standing in acres of space in the penalty area, simply headed 
the ball into the net.  "No problems", we said, remembering the second half 
recoveries at Arsenal and Chelsea earlier this season.

Wegerle made it three-nil on the half hour.  Soon afterwards, Rob Newman 
was put clear down the right.  He blasted the ball low into the far corner, 
to bring it back to 3-1.  This prompted a spell of play in which Norwich 
were the better team, but just before half-time, Shearer scored a fourth 
with a brilliant lob over Gunn.

Would there be a storming recovery during the second half?  The simple 
answer was No.  Blackburn continued to dominate the midfield, with Gordon 
Cowans and Stuart Ripley playing superbly.  Cowans scored direct from a 
free-kick after Shearer had been brought down by Sutton.  The final two 
goals were scored by Ripley and Shearer.  Double figures looked a definite 
possibility, but we managed to keep it down to seven!

What went wrong?  Well, the defence was simply outclassed by Shearer and 
Wegerle.  Butterworth did not look fit.  Shearer was in excellent form, 
taking his chances well and rceating loads of other chances.  He's also 
extremely fast - I was very impressed by him.  Even at �3.6m or whatever it 
was, he has to be the buy of the season.  

Norwich resorted to their ways of last season - pretty football but no bite 
in midfield.  Goss and Sutch were simply too lightweight to cope with the 
wet conditions.  They missed Gary Megson to add steel.

Jon

    Jon,
    
    I hope you're going to the game on Oct 24th.
                  
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

Andrew,

Going to see Norwich play against a second-rate team struggling at the 
bottom of the league does not interest me.

Jon

Norwich beat the mighty Carlisle 2-0 last night.  Both goals were scored in 
the second half by Chris Sutton.

In the next round, we've been drawn away at Blackburn.. 
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!

Jon

P.S. No, I shall not be making a second trip up there this season

    
    
    I'll bet Norwich are well chuffed with their next round draw.
    
    I'll bet Blackburn are well chuffed with their next round draw.
    
    JN.

Football being football, Norwich are more than likely
to beat Blackburn in the next round.

    Jon,
    
    So Norwich are going to concentrate on the F.A Cup then??
    and you're going to switch to drinking Pepsi in protest.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks 

Sad to hear that Bryan Gunn's little daughter Francesca died on Sunday.
Lets hope he gets over this tragic loss and back to football.

�@    

Norwich 2
QPR 1

Norwich have gone back to the top of the League, at least until tonight. 
The first goal was a penalty by Bowen, after Sutton had been bundled over 
in the penalty area.  Sutton scored the second with a great header from a 
cross by Sutch.  QPR got a goal back late in the game, but Norwich hung on 
to the points.  There was one close shave, when Culverhouse cleared the 
ball onto Norwich's bar, it bounced down on to the line (a la Geoff Hurst), 
back up onto the bar, and away to safety.

Next week's game at Liverpool has been put back to the Sunday to give 
Liverpool an extra day to recover from their Cup-Winners Cup match in 
Moscow on Thursday.

Jon

    Jon,
    
    We do not need the extra days rest to give you the sound 0-0 thrashing
    you deserve!
    
    I'll be calling you on Monday should an 'upset' occur (:==:)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

Liverpool 4
Norwich 1

Another away thrashing!  Norwich took the lead in the first minute, thanks 
to Butterworth from a corner.  Liverpool took scored twice in the first 
half.  Then Bowen blasted a penalty over the bar.  Liverpool scored twice 
more in the second half, to inflict our second consecutive away defeat.  

This week Norwich go to Blackburn Rovers again, in the Coca-Cola Cup.  I'm 
not too hopeful!!

Jon

    Jon,
    
    That's not a very extensive match report is it? At least give us
    the scorers. You don't still have a Scottish goalie do you??
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    
    Liverpool's scorers were...
    
    Thomas   (hopeful punt that somehow found the net)
    Burrows  (lucky deflection on a long shot)
    Walters (pen) (dodgy penalty)
    Hutchinson (tripped in the area and the ball hit his head and went in)
    
    Paul - as unbiased as usual :-)
    
    (please note I am not a Liverpool supporter and never have been)

    Paul,
    
    Could you confirm or deny whether you have been or have been tempted to
    be a closet Canary??
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

Blackburn 2
Norwich 0

A distinct improvement on the result a couple of weeks ago! According to 
the paper, Norwich had quite a few chances, with Goss hitting the post 
before Blackburn scored.  If Robins had been on from the start (he was a 
substitute), maybe we would have scored from some of the chances.  Shearer 
and May scored for Blackburn - one in each half.

On Saturday, we're at home to Middlesbrough.  A win is definitely needed if 
we are to stay in contention at the top of the league.

Jon

Norwich 1
Middlesbrough 1

Saw the goals on Match of the Day.  Middlesbrough scored first, after about 
an hour.  Their scorer (I've forgotten his name) out-jumped Butterworth to 
head in a cross from the left.  Norwich equalised with only 4 minutes to 
go.  David Sutch shot through a forest of legs in the penalty area and it 
ended up in the goal.  So Norwich have kept up their record of scoring in 
every league game this season.

Apparently next week's game away at Oldham is to be the live game on Sky on 
Monday night.  I shouldn't think that one will break any viewing records 
(except perhaps lowest TV audience of the season) :-)

Jon

>Apparently next week's game away at Oldham is to be the live game on Sky on 

I bet you'd get good odds on that being a goalless draw!

g

	re: -1

	That would have been wasted money!!

	Given that Norwich current goals for and goals against stand at
	27 and 27 respectively it should have been extremely difficult to
	expect a 0-0.

	Nice to see that Robins did the business again!! A bargain buy if
	ever there was one.

	/Kev

Oldham 2
Norwich 3

A good victory puts us top of the league again!  Norwich twice took the 
lead in the first half, both goals scored by Mark Robins.  But both times, 
Oldham equalised, so at half time it was 2-2.  It looked that it would stay 
that way, but in injury time Robins completed his hat-trick to snatch 
victory.  They were Robins' first goals for 8 games.  The reason that we 
won was obviously because I decided not to watch the game on Sky!  We've 
now won both live games on Sky, so I think I will avoid the next one at all 
costs!!

Both Ruel Fox and Darren Beckford returned last night from long spells out 
due to injury.  I read that Fox has a great game, causing all sorts of 
problems down the right, but Beckford was not too hot.

Jon

Norwich 2
Sheff Utd 1

Yet another win to keep us on top of the league.  With Arsenal and 
Blackburn both failing to win, we've increased our lead to 4 points. Soon 
people are going to have to take us seriously.

Norwich took the lead in the 60th minute when a United defender headed into 
his own goal under heavy pressure from Robins.  Alan Cork equalised ten 
minutes later.  But with less than 10 minutes to go, Phillips found Fox 
with a 40-yard pass, who crossed from the right wing for Robins to calmly 
slot the ball into the corner of the net.

A real test next week - away to Villa.  If we can get a result there, then 
maybe a few "experts" will conceed that Norwich are real challengers 
for the League this season.

Jon

Aston Villa 2
Norwich 3

Another great victory!  Having seen the highlights on TV, I was really 
impressed by Norwich's performance, especially in the first half.  They 
could have been 4-0 up at half time, but instead the score was 2-1. 
Norwich's first goal was created by a great run by Fox down the right wing. 
He crossed it to Robins, who passed to Phillips who shot from just outside 
the penalty area.  The second goal was a gift from Spink, who dropped a 
corner at Beckford's feet.  Having seen this, Gunn decided that it was his 
turn to make a blunder, so in injury time when Houghton hit a weak shot, 
Gunn somehow let it go under his body into the goal.

Villa equalised in the first minute of the second half - Garry Parker was 
the scorer. However, Norwich still kept coming forward, and were rewarded 
when Fox created an opening in the penalty area for Sutch to score the 
winner.  It was a good team performance, and Robins showed that he's not 
just a great scorer, but also prepared to work hard and create chances for 
others.

With Arsenal losing again, we've gone 5 points clear at the top of the 
league.  Not bad for one of the relegation favourites at the start of the 
season.  However, it would be nice to get some credit, rather than comments 
about how it will not last and the "big teams" will soon take over at the 
top.

Jon

   Jon, I personally think its good for football that a team like Norwich are
top with Blackburn in second place.... Iam sure 95% of the neutrals expected ye
to lose at Villa park me included, but that's a great result, and will also
boost team confidence... and with Arsenals good run coming to a double end (two
defeats in a row) it leaves ye siting pretty at the top...

   You know what everybody says, every team goes through a bad patch... Look
at Coventry they were at the top of the league approx 5 weeks ago, and now they
have drifted down to the middle.... Qpr, and Arsenal were going through a great
patch, and now both have lost 2 in a row.... The pool are on a roll at the
moment, and if they can keep the same team on the park every saturday then the
picture at the top may be different come 1993...

   Enjoy your stay at the top Jon.... 

                                                           regards....

                                                               -dave-

Norwich 2
Wimbledon 1

Winning is getting to be a habit.  We are now an amazing EIGHT points 
clear.  This means that we will be on top at Christmas, which is a bad 
omen.. the team on top at Christmas NEVER wins the league!  

By all accounts, Saturday's game was dreadful.  Wimbledon took the lead in 
the second half, through Laurie Sanchez.  Last season, this would have 
killed off Norwich, but this season we seem to have the determination to 
play for the full 90 minutes.  Robins got the equaliser after 77 mins, and 
Phillips grabbed a late winner with one minute to go.  The last minute 
winners are going in quite regularly this season.

It is reported in today's paper that Norwich are having talks with the 
Swedish international defender, Patrik Andersson.  The price mentioned is 
700,000 pounds.  Do any of our Swedish noters have any info on him? 

In yesterday's FA Cup draw, we were drawn at home to Coventry.  It's not 
exaclty a glamourous draw.

Jon

Man United 1
Norwich 0

Our fourth defeat of the season, and the first league game this season 
where we have failed to score.  From the highlights on Match of the Day, 
Norwich did not play too well - especially the defence.  United's goal was 
the result of a bad mistake by Sutch on the edge of the penalty area.

A big test next Monday, against local rivals Ipswich.  If we are to keep in 
contention at the top, then we must win that one.

Jon

Of course, you shouldn't comment on just MOTD highlights, but what the hell . 
. . I thought Norwich played some great stuff. Much more than Utd, but the 
difference semed to be that Utd had more bite in midfield - Ince especially 
never gave Norwich time to settle.

It was a shame it was settled by the only mistake (what was he doing there 
anyway?), but United could have had it all wrapped up if they'd taken even 
half of their chances.

I'm not writing Norwich off - if they can keep their confidence I think they 
can do it.

grahame

Norwich 0
Ipswich 2

I made the mistake of finding a pub showing the game on Sky!  Will I ever 
get to see Norwich win ????  Norwich played well in the first half, having 
the greater share of the possession.  They put some good moves together, 
without creating any clear-cut chances.  The best chance of the half fell 
to Ipswich.  A well timed run by Stockwell (?) led him to a one-on-one 
situation with Gunn, but Gunn stood his ground well and made an important 
save.

Norwich started the second half as they had played in the first.  However, 
after about 10 minutes of the second half, Ipswich got their first corner 
of the game.  It was headed on at the near post by Dozzell, and Kiwomya had 
acres of space to head in the opening goal.  After that, Norwich never 
really looked like coming back.  Ipswich defended well, not allowing 
Norwich many chances.  Ipswich made it 2-0 with a couple of minutes left, 
with the Thomson scoring from a counter attack.

It is obvious that Norwich's defence needs to be strenghtened.  We are 
conceeding too many goals.  A look at the table shows that despite winning 
12 and losing 5 so far, we have a goal difference of 0.

The next game is at home to Spurs on Boxing Day.  A victory is definitely 
needed, to regain some confidence.

Jon

A very uneventful Christmas period for Norwich.  On Boxing Day, we drew 0-0 
at home to Spurs, then on the 28th we drew 0-0 again, this time at Leeds. 
In this game, Bowen missed a tenth-minute penalty.  This is the third 
penalty that Norwich have missed this season. 

It is encouraging that our defence seems to be tightening up, but it is 
also worrying that we have failed to score now for four games.

Saturday's FA Cup game against Coventry was postponed due to frost. The new 
date is Wednesday 13th Jan.  The winners are at home to Spurs in the next 
round.

Jon

Sheff Wed 1
Norwich 0

Yet another game where we did not score.  That's now five consecutive games 
without a goal - not exactly Championship form.  And, to cap it all, our 
leading scorer this season, Mark Robins, picked up an ankle injury and will 
be out for a month.

Listening to the game on the radio, there was only one team in it. 
Wednesday had numerous scoring oppurtunities, including 5 in the first five 
minutes of the second half.  It was only in the last few minutes that 
Norwich had any pressure at all.  They've got to sort themselves out soon, 
otherwise they'll finish in mid-table.

Jon

    Jon,
    
    According to a certain broadsheet this morning, The Canaries have now
    slipped to 16-1 for the title. Surely that must be worth a bob or two,
    even if they haven't scored for a month.
    
    Rob

I think that 16-1 is a bit tight, especially as we've now lost Robins for a 
month.  It might be worth an each-way bet, though.  If I was going to bet 
on it, my money would go on Aston Villa.

Jon

Norwich 1
Coventry 0

At last, we've scored a goal!  Beckford scored for Norwich, just after 
half-time.  This was Norwich's first goal for 499 minutes - the last goal 
was against Wimbledon on 5th December.  The report in the paper says that 
Coventry had the better chances, with Gunn making two outstanding saves 
from Quinn.  We are at home to Spurs in the next round.

On Saturday, Coventry are again the visitors to Carrow Road.  I'll settle 
for a repeat of last night's score, but usually in these situations the 
result will be reversed from the cup game!

Jon

Norwich 1
Coventry 1

A game which Norwich should have won ended in a 1-1 draw.  Norwich scored 
first - a good move involving Phillips, Bowen and Fox, finished off by 
Sutton.  They created many more chances in the first half, but bad 
finishing (especially by Fox) let them down.

There was controversy in the second half, when Gunn pulled down Williams 
when he was clear in the penalty area.  The ball fell to Quinn, who calmly 
put the ball in the empty net.  However, the linesman had already signalled 
for a penalty, and the ref had blown his whistle for the penalty.  Hence 
Quinn's goal was not allowed to stand.  Gunn saved the penalty, and Quinn 
hit the rebound against the crossbar!  After the game, Bobby Gould was 
seething about the decision not play the advantage, and I think that he had 
a very good case.  Also, Gunn should have been sent off for the 
foul, as Williams had a clear run on to the goal, but he was not 
even booked.  However, Coventry did manage to score, with Quinn getting yet 
another goal.  As part of his celebrations, he had a few words with the 
afore-mentioned linesman.

Next weekend's FA Cup game against Spurs is live on BBC1 on Sunday 
afternoon.

Jon

Norwich 0
Spurs 2

Another dismal performance by Norwich on the TV.  Apart from a few minutes 
before half-time, Norwich were never in the game.  Two goals by Sheringham 
early in the second half killed off Norwich.

Norwich have got serious problems in front of goal.  They did not create 
one decent chance all game - Sutton and Beckford were anonymous most of the 
time, and spent most the afternoon off-side!  Norwich looked good until 
they got to the edge of the penalty area, but then the final ball was often 
inaccurate.  What is needed is someone with the imagination to create a few 
chances, or at least get the ball into the penalty area a few more times.  
If Mike Walker is serious about winning the League, he should go out and 
buy another striker, and possibly another midfielder.  There should be some 
money left from Fleck's transfer last summer.

Some slightly more hopeful news is that Robins may be fit for Wednesday 
night's game against Palace.

Jon

Well it always seems to be the same old story when I listen or watch City - they
always lose.

While they remained in touch with Spurs in the first half, the woeful 10 minutes
in which Spurs ran riot and only notched two goals was more than enough to
put Norwich out of the Cup.

What was Walker thinking about bringing on another big, burly centre forward style
striker when Mabbutt and Ruddock had been making mincemeat of Beckford and Sutton
in the first half.

I can't remember the other Norwich sub., but Beckford should have been the player
to come off yesterday with Fox being pushed up alongside Sutton.

They desparately need Robins back on that performance. Maybe Walker could persuade
Spurs to let go of Barmby.

/K

Norwich 4 (yes, four!)
Palace 2

Well, at last some goals.  After scoring only 1 goal in our last 6 games, 
we put four past Palace to gain our first League win since December 5th. 
This still leaves us two points behind Man United and Villa.

Palace took the lead after only 2 minutes, but Power equalised for us after 
9 minutes with a volley from the edge of the penalty area.  Sutton scored 
the second with a far post header.  Geoff Thomas equalised on the stroke of 
half-time when he outjumped Gunn.  In the second half, Norwich again took 
the lead, goss scoring from close range after a fine move down the right. 
Power made it four just before the end after a run down the left wing. 

It seems that playing Power instead of Beckford up front gave Norwich more 
confidence in front of goal.  Lets hope that it continues, and that we can 
reproduce our form of earlier in the season.  Robins will be in contention 
for a place on Saturday (away to Everton) - he was a substitute last night.

Jon

Everton 0
Norwich 1

A good away win, with Chris Sutton getting the goal in the first half. The 
report on the radio said Norwich were in control in the first half, but 
allowed Everton dominate the second.  This was our second consecutive win 
after going seven games without a win.  

With Man United and Aston Villa both losing, we have gone back to the top 
of the league, which makes the comments that the league is a two horse race 
(United and Villa) look silly. If we can now put a good run together, then 
anything's possible. It would certainly piss off Alan Hansen if Norwich win 
the League - I cannot believe how biased he is against Norwich.  He seems 
to think that just because Norwich are not a "big club" and do not have any 
"big name stars" that they do not deserve to be at the top.  His comments 
each week on Match of the Day really annoy me - now I know how Scots feel 
about Jimmy Hill!

Jon

Southampton 3
Norwich 0

This was described in the paper as Norwich's worst performance of the 
season.  We were 2-0 down at half-time.  The first goal was a near post 
header by Hall from a corner, the second Adams shot from about 8 yards with 
the defence appealing for offside.  The third came late in the second half, 
with Banger catching Norwich on the break.

Mike Walker is now talking of signing a couple of new players to help keep 
the League challenge going.  I do not know who he has in mind, but he'd 
better act quickly.  At least Villa lost, and United only drew on Monday. 
We are only three points off the top, with as game in hand, but we 
certainly won't win the league on goal difference (-1 at the moment)!
No game on Saturday (Forest are still in the Cup).

Jon

    
    Jon Re:last,
    		One of the players he is looking to sign,is Rasputtin'
    from the Vagabonds.A price of �300K is being quoted in the papers
    up here,(and by my reckoning that's �300K too much).Can't see him
    adding much to your Championship prospects as he's struggling for
    a first team place in our League.(Still maybe dropping down a 
    League maybe help him). ;>)
    

    re .121
    
    Any chance of an English translation ?

    
    RE:Last 2,
    
    I always thought you English were educationally deficient.;>)
    
    A quick translation then.
    
    Rasputtin = Peter Grant
    Vagabonds = Celtic
    	 

    
    Jon,
    
    And if it's any help, here's some more Scottish Rhyming Slang for
    you.....
    
     MIM = Rangers FC
     John Merrick Lookalikes = Rangers FC
     Govan Scumbag XI = Rangers FC
     Huns = Rangers FC
    
     8*))
    
    

Norwich 2
Man City 1

A good win against a team who always seem to beat us.  Two goals in two 
minutes after half an hour put us in control.  The first was a tap in by 
Robins, the second a shot from about 12 yards by Power after a great move 
down the left.  Man City scored just after half-time, and dominated the 
second half, but Norwich hung on to the three points.  One miss, by David 
White, in the second half was unbelieveable.  He (and another city player) 
were free in the six yard box, and Gunn had given up, but somehow White 
miscued to Gunn.

Unfortunately both Man. United and Villa won, so it's as you were at the 
top.  Next game is at home to Blackburn, on Sunday, live on Sky.  No repeat 
of the game earlier this season, please.

Jon

    
    	> A good win against a team who always seem to beat us.
    
    	I don't know Jon, we very rarely do well in East Anglia, whether
    it's against you or Ipswich. White either scores from anywhere or
    misses from everywhere!
    
    	Who played at the back for the blues? Have they still got 4 fit
    defenders? (Copyright Liverpool topic)
    
    
    		Steve

Steve,

Unfortunately I no longer have yesterday's paper which listed the teams, so 
I don't know what the City line-up was.

Jon

    
    	From yesterday's Torygraph...
    
    	Coton, Ranson, Phelan (Hill 44), Ingebrigtsen (Quigley 81), Curle,
    	Vonk, White, Sheron, Quinn, Flitcroft, Holden. Booked: Ranson
    
    	Well you did ask 8-)
    
    	Andy. 

Norwich 0
Blackburn 0

I listened to the game on Radio 5 yesterday afternoon, and it did not sound 
a great game.  The conditions did not help, with a couple of snow 
storms during the first half.  Blackburn were the dominant team, but missed 
the finishing of Shearer up front.  Norwich rarely threatened the Blackburn 
goal, but will be happy with a point considering their first choice 
midfield players (Crook, Megson and Goss) were all out injured.

We need a win on Wednesday (at home to Arsenal) to keep up our title 
challenge.

Jon

QPR 3
Norwich 1

A disappointing result for Norwich.  We are now 6 points behind Villa, and 
7 behind Manchester United (we all have 11 more games to play).  While not 
completely out of the title race, it is now very unlikely that we will 
finish top.  However, both teams still have to play at Carrow Road, so I 
guess anything is possible.

QPR went 2-0 up after half an hour, and Robins equalised a few minutes 
before half-time.  However, a third goal late in the second half secured a 
win for QPR.  From the brief highlights on TV, Norwich's defence was very 
poor at marking.  They are definitely missing Butterworth, who is out 
injured.

Two games this week, both against relegation candidates. Tomorrow night 
were away at Sheffield United, and on Saturday at home to Oldham.  
Sheffield have a good home record this season, but hopefully they'll be 
taking it easy before their FA Cup replay next week.

Jon

>Sheffield have a good home record this season, but hopefully they'll be 
>taking it easy before their FA Cup replay next week.

Like they did against Spurs?.

Sheff United 0
Norwich 1

An excellent set of results for Norwich.  We are now just four points off 
both United and Villa, so are certainly not out it yet.  Ruel Fox got our 
all important goal in the second half, finishing off a fine move down the 
left, with Power putting Fox clear with an excellent pass.  Fox steered it 
past the advancing 'keeper from the edge of the penalty area.

If we beat Oldham at Carrow Road on Saturday (and that is by no means a 
certainty), we'll be just one point off the top (well, at least until 
Sunday :-).

Jon

Norwich 1
Oldham 0

Another great set of results this weekend.  Norwich beat Oldham thanks to a 
first-half own goal.  With United and Villa drawing, we are only two 
points behind them, so talk of a two horse race is rubbish.  I only hope 
that we can keep our bottle, as we are bound to come under much more 
pressure now that we are so near the top.

We play at Nottm. Forest on Wednesday in a re-arranged fixture.  It will be 
a tough game, with Forest desperate for points.  Then on Saturday we play 
Wimbledon at Selhurst Park.

Jon

Since my last reply, there's been two games:

Nottm. Forest 0
Norwich 3

Our biggest victory of the season (so far?).  Robins scored the first on 
the stroke of half time, hitting a shot in-off the post.  The second goal 
was the result of Crossley failing to get to a corner, and Power poked the 
ball home from short range.  The third was a deflected shot by Crook.  This 
win meant that we went back to the top of the League.

Wimbledon 3
Norwich 0

This was always going to be a hard game for Norwich.  We were never in the 
game against a side who are having a good spell at the moment.  Holdsworth 
scored two, and Ardley got the other goal.  With United drawing and Villa 
winning, we are back in third place.  Mike Walker said after the game that 
we have no blown our chance of the title, and that our defending was 
dreadful.  However, the first part was said with his tongue firmly in his 
cheek.  He's trying to take the pressure of Norwich - we've got a much 
better chance of coming from behind in the last few games than going top 
now and defending our lead.

Two crunch games coming up - on Wednesday night we are at home to Villa, 
and next Monday at home to Man. United.  Six points would be very nice!!

Jon

Norwich yesterday sold their record buy, Darren Beckford, to Oldham. 
However, the price still has to be sorted out - Norwich want 500,000, but 
Oldham only want to pay 300,000.  Whatever it turns out to be, it's a lot 
less than the 925,000 we bought him for.  He has never been a regular in 
the team (especially since we signed Robins), and had some shocking games 
earlier in the season.

We play Villa tonight - I do not know any team news.  There are no Premier 
League games this weekend (England play Turkey next week), so the next game 
is on Monday week, against Man United.

Jon

    Where's Jon? Is it all too much for him?

Norwich 1
Aston Villa 0

An excellent win against Villa has now put us back on top (for the ninth 
time this season).  I listened to the second half on Radio 5, and saw the 
highlights on Sportsnight.  It sounded very exciting on the radio, and the 
commentators said it was a very open, attacking game.  Both teams had good 
chances in the first half, with both goalies making good saves.  In the 
second half, Villa should have taken the lead.  As the radio commentator 
described it: "Parker's past Polston ... now he's past Gunn ... he's got an 
open goal ... he's missed".  It sounded certain that he would score, but he 
took too long over it.  With about ten minutes to go, Norwich got a corner, 
which Megson headed towards goal, Bosnich parried the ball to Polston, who 
smashed it into the net.

It's just a pity that Arsenal did not beat Man. United.  They must be 
panicking now, and need to win at Norwich on Monday week to avoid the ghost 
of last season coming back to haunt them.

Yesterday, Norwich signed Bournemouth's striker Efan Ekoku for �500,000.  
He's been a prolific scorer for Bournemouth this season.  He may make his 
debut against Man. United.  Amazingly, this was the only signing by a 
Premier League club yesterday (the transfer deadline).

Jon

What nationality is this Efan Ekoku? Sounds african.

The reports in the paper do not mention Ekoku's nationality, so I must 
assume that he is English.

Jon

Didn't see this earlier :

CEEFAX also reported that Norwich had sold Beckford to Oldham for �500,000
earlier in the week.

/Kev

P.S. When will the TV and Radio start to take notice of Norwich!! I hope they
beat Man U. to shut up a few doubting people in the media.

    
    Norwich have got a real chance of taking the title this year.
    Especially as the two big city clubs are more worried about losing
    points than gaining them. Norwich have got nothing to lose, they can
    have a go for the last six or seven games and if they fail then they
    have already done better than most people expected.
    
    The only reservation I would have about wanting Norwich to win is how
    they will perform in Europe. I don't know much about their squad. How
    many English players are there in their first team squad ? Will they
    be in trouble in having to cobble together a team for a European cup
    tie ?
    
    			Steve.
    

Squad :

	Gunn (Scottish)
	Bowen (Welsh)
	Culverhouse (English)
	Butterworth (English)
	Polston (English)
	Philips (Welsh)
	Sutch (English)
	Megson (English)
	Crook (English)
	Goss (English)
	Robins (English)
	Fox (English)
	Power (English)
	Sutton (English)
	Ekoku (?)

Nationalities may be wrong. Maybe Jon can correct me.

/Kev

Kev,

Almost right.  Jeremy Goss is Welsh (despite being born in Cyprus), and Lee 
Power is Irish.  As far as I know, all your other nationalities are 
correct.  As for the question how will Norwich do in Europe - they can 
hardly do much worse than the English teams did this season!

You were complaining about the media not taking us seriously - that is to 
our advantage at the moment.  Nobody expects us to do anything, so we are 
not under any pressure.  It's Man. United and (to a lesser extent) Aston 
Villa who are under the most pressure at the moment.  But yes, it would be 
wonderful to see Norwich win the League to see Alan Hansen's reaction.

Jon

    Gosh spring must have started.... all the Norwich supporters are coming
    out of the woodwork (:==:)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

Norwich 1
Man. United 3

Norwich's second home defeat of the season - both have been Sky's Monday 
night game.  The first half was all United, with all three goals coming in 
a 8 minute period.  United's strikers were simply too fast for the Norwich 
defence.  At first sight the first and third goals looked off-side, but the 
TV replay showed that they were both OK.  Norwich brought on new signing 
Efan Ekoku 10 minutes into the second half, and only then did Norwich start 
to play.  Robins got a goal back, heading in a cross from Fox.  The rest of 
the game was mostly Norwich pressure, with Ekoku unsettling Bruce and 
Pallister, but Norwich could not score.  Ince and Kanchelskis both hit the 
post in the second half, but there were no more goals.  "Captain Marvel" 
came on to show us what we had been missing all season - dangerous 
two-footed tackles, for which he was rightly booked.

This defeat leaves us one point behind United, and two behind Villa (both 
have one more game to play than us).  It's going to be an uphill struggle, 
but we're not out of it yet.

The FA yesterday announced that should the same team win both the Cups this 
season, then the winners would go into the Cup Winners Cup, but the losers 
would not go into the UEFA cup, as they would not have won anything.  
Therefore England's second UEFA cup place would go to the team finishing 
third in the Premier League.  This gives the likes of Sheffield Wednesday 
and Blackburn the incentive to win their remaining games, to get up to 
third place.  Therefore we will have to wait until the FA Cup final to see 
who qualifies for the UEFA Cup from the League.

Jon

    
    	re .145...
    
    	What a fair and magnanimous note, Jon. My compliments on your
    	sporting view of what must be an enormous disappointment to
    	lose such a vital game.
    
    	One or two of our cousins in this conference would do well to be
    	similarly inclined a bit more often...
    
    	I hope Norwich do get to play in Europe. They were unlucky a couple
    	of years ago.
    
    	Andy.
             

re:-1

If you look back through the replies to this topic you will notice that Jon
and I have added replies to this note in the past. There do appear to be a few
others who have added replies over the past few weeks though - maybe they
aren't City supporters.

Well the result I had hoped wouldn't happen, actually happened:

	City	1 - 3	Man U.
	Robins		Giggs
			Kanchelskis
			Cantona

The Mancs scored three goals in a stunning 20 minute period in the first half.
There was some question of offside on two of them but Radio 5 commented that
close inspection of the TV footage at half time showed all three were valid.
Norwich were denied a penalty claim near the end of the first half, although
by then it was probably all over bar the shouting.

Robins popped in the second half to give Norwich a breath of life but to no
avail. Ince and Kanchelskis came close with strikes of the woodwork.

Brookings comment on the game "Best game he'd seen all season." The commentators
gave the impression that it wasn't as one sided as the score suggests.

Now Norwich have to ensure that they pick up the points from the remaining games
and that both Villa and United drop points in their remaining games. It isn't
over yet by a long chalk.

Regards
Kev (a City supporter in exile)

It's official - Norwich will not win the League.  Well, that's the opinion 
of Sky TV, who had planned to reschedule Man United's, Villa'a and 
Norwich's last game of the season to the following Sunday, and televise 
them all live.  But now, they've decided just to reschedule the United and 
Villa games.  With Norwich's record on Sky this year, I'm quite happy with 
this!

Jon

    Jon,
    
    Norwich will alas have blown it by then due to their regular 0-0
    draw with Liverpool on May 1.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

Spurs 5
Norwich 1

Oh dear!  We've finally blown it.  I listened to this on the radio in the 
car, and it was even more depressing than the traffic jams.  Our late 
consolation goal was Efan Ekoku's first for us.

Next game is at home to Leeds tomorrow night.

Jon

Norwich 4
Leeds 2

Norwich have bounced back after two large defeats to beat the current 
Champions.  Leeds took the lead in the second minute, but then three goals 
in four minutes gave Norwich a 3-1 lead.  Defender-turned-attacker Chris 
Sutton scored the first two - the first a far post header, the second a 
messy tap in.  Then Fox was fouled inside the penalty area and Phillips 
scored from the penalty.  Leeds got one back just after half time, but 
Norwich restored their two-goal lead when Sutton completed his hat-trick, 
shooting in from an acute angle.

Next game is on Moday, away at Ipswich.  They have not won since the end of 
January, so I'm sure they will beat us!

Jon

Ipswich 3
Norwich 1

Ipswich have done the double over us this season.  My curse has struck 
again - I knew I shouldn't have gone to the pub to watch it on Sky!  
Norwich dominated the early parts of the game, but were unable to create 
any good chances.  Ipswich took the lead after Gunn dived feet first at 
Dozzell when he had a good chance of gathering the ball with his hands. I 
have no idea why he elected to go feet first.  Norwich equalised from a 
free-kick - Sutton headed in Fox's floated cross at the far post.  Just on 
half-time, Norwich were lucky not to concede a penalty - Polston was 
adjudged to have pushed Kiwomya just outside the penalty area, but it 
looked to be inside the box when he nudged him.

Ipswich scored two goals in two minutes in the second half.  The first was 
scored by Stockwell, after Norwich's defence failed to clear the ball. The 
final goal was a great 25-yarder from Dozzell.  After these goals, Ipswich 
started playing much better, knowing that there was no longer any pressure 
on them.

This result has ended Norwich's remote chances of winning the League.  In 
fact, we still need some more points to make 3rd place certain, which would 
give us a chance of getting into the UEFA Cup.

Jon

    Norwich 1
    Liverpool 0
    
    A win in our last home game of the season has almost assured us of
    third place.  To be caught, we must lose at Middlesbrough on Saturday,
    and Blackburn must win their last two games.
    
    The only goal was a Phillips penalty, after James kicked out at Polsten
    after a corner.  Mind you, James should have been sent off earlier
    after taking out Sutton just outside the penalty area.
    
    Bryan Gunn was named as the supporters' player of the year.
    
    Jon

Middlesbrough 3
Norwich 3

A hatful of goals (at both ends) summed up Norwich's season quite well - 
we've scored a lot of goals but also have a leaky defence.  Norwich took 
the lead through Ekoku, then Middlesbrough went 2-1 up.  Ekoku got his 
second to make it 2-2, then Andrew Johnson scored his first goal for 
Norwich, in his first appearance of the season (he came on as sub. twice 
last season).  Middlesbrough equalised soon after to make the final score 
3-3.

This result means that we finish third, our best ever finish in the league. 
Now we have to wait for the FA Cup Final to see if we qualify for Europe.  
It's not very often that I shout for Arsenal, but on Saturday I will make 
an exception :-)

Jon

Well, Norwich have actually won something this season - the PFA's fair play 
award for having the best disciplinary record of all 92 League clubs.  I 
cannot recall us having any players sent off this season.

For finishing third in the Premier League, we have received �741,100, plus 
loads more dosh for televised games.  Lets hope that this money is made 
available to strengthen the squad.

Fingers crossed for Arsenal on Saturday so we qualify for the UEFA Cup next 
season.

Jon

    jon,
    
    What no - "we're going to Europe, you're not..." message in my INBOX
    i'm disappointed (:==:)
    
    I hear that with VP approval you can still get training courses in
    Evry or Munich should Norwich draw Paris St Germain or Bayern munich!
    
    albania will be a little more difficult...
    
    take care watch out for those foreign beers and women
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    >Evry or Munich should Norwich draw Paris St Germain or Bayern munich!
    
    I wouldn't bet on Bayern being champions. Beaten 4-2 by Karlsruhe
    yesterday.......

Andrew,

Don't worry, some mail is on its way.  I shall not let you forget this in a 
hurry!  

Althought I feel sorry for Wednesday losing both Cup Finals, I am obviously 
pleased that it means Norwich have qualified for the UEFA Cup. I think that 
this is a just reward for a great season - if we had finished the season 
without anything it would have been harsh.  Althought I am the first to 
admit that Norwich do not have the strength to compete with the best in 
Europe, we can hardly do worse than most of the other English clubs in the 
last couple of seasons.  Robert Chase, the chairman, has promised to make 
some money available to strengthen the defence before next season.  

I can't wait for the first round draw - Inter Milan would do me :-)

Jon

David Phillips has rejected a new contract, so appears to be on his way.  I 
do not know if any clubs have put in an offer yet for him.  I would have 
thought that he would stay so he could play in the UEFA cup next season 
(however, being Welsh, he may have thought that he would be one of the 
"foreigners" left out of the team).

Jon

    jon,
    
    why would David want to leave a team that's only going to play twogames
    in Europe (and one of those is at home) and miss out on the 42 league
    games and a few other domestic games???
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    
    Andrew,
    
>   why would David want to leave a team that's only going to play twogames
>   in Europe (and one of those is at home) ....
    
    
    That's two more games in Europe than Liverpool will play next season.
    
    :-)
    
    Jon

    and two more than england will be playing in America next year!

    1993
Aug 15	Man United	H
Aug 17	Blackburn	A
Aug 21	Leeds		A
Aug 25	Ipswich		H
Aug 28	Swindon 	H

Sep  1	Sheff Wed	A
Sep 11	Wimbledon	H
Sep 18	QPR		A
Sep 25	Everton		A

Oct  2	Coventry	H
Oct 16	Chelsea		A
Oct 23	West Ham	H
Oct 30	Arsenal		A

Nov  6	Sheff United	A
Nov 20	Man City	H
Nov 24	Liverpool	H
Nov 27	Oldham		A

Dec  4	Man United	A
Dec  8	Blackburn	H
Dec 11	Leeds		H
Dec 18	Ipswich		A
Dec 27	Spurs		A
Dec 28	Aston Villa	H

    1994
Jan  1	Southampton	A
Jan  3	Newcastle	H
Jan 15	Chelsea		H
Jan 22	West Ham	A

Feb 12	Arsenal		H
Feb 19	Swindon		A
Feb 26	Sheff Wed	H

Mar  5	Wimbledon	A
Mar 12	QPR		H
Mar 19	Everton		H
Mar 26	Coventry	A
Mar 30	Newcastle	A

Apr  2	Spurs		H
Apr  4	Aston Villa	A
Apr  9	Southampton	H
Apr 16	Man City	A
Apr 23	Sheff United	H
Apr 30	Liverpool	A

May  7	Oldham		H
    

We've been drawn against Vitesse Arnhem in the UEFA Cup. Can any of our 
Dutch noters give me any info on Arnhem - who plays for them, where did 
they finish last season etc.

First leg is at home on 14th September.  The away leg is a fortnight later.

All I need now is a meeting in Apeldoorn for the week of the away leg :-)

Jon

    re-1  Vitesse is the last couple of years that ended just after Ajax
    and PSV ( and Feyenoord this year....). They are always difficult to
    play ; their homematches are played in a small cosy Stade where a lot
    of shouting and singing fans are. They try to be the absolute top, but
    somehow they just not manage to reach it. I don't know what players
    they bought this year, I know they lost one of their keyplayers John
    van de Brom to Ajax :-) !!!!!!!
    I am sure it will be a great game ! Oh yeah, if you are in Apeldoorn,
    just hop in in Arnhem and see for yourself.......if they play,
    ofcourse.....
    As soon as I have a list of players I will put it in
    
    John

Norwich 0
Man United 2

Not a good start to the new season.  I listened to the commentary on Radio 
5, and apart from a spell just after half-time, Norwich were never in it. 
We played with Culverhouse as sweeper, Butterworth and Polsten as central 
defenders, and Bowen as full-back/midfielder.  We tried this system a 
couple of times last season, with disaterous results, so perhaps Walker 
will now revert to a different system.

Oh well, at least I can put this result down to the fact that it was on Sky 
- we never win when on live TV!!  

We play again tomorrow, away at Blackburn.  I confidently predict a better 
result for Norwich than last season :-)

Jon

    Jon,
    
    probably the only way you will do better than last season is to play
    tomorrow, the fixture list I got from Ewood Park last week says the
    game is on Wednesday !
    
    I'll be there ...  but will Alan Shearer ? 
                       
    Andy

Blackburn 2
Norwich 3

A welcome first victory of the season!  A much improved performance saw 
Norwich get revenge for last season's 7-1 thrashing.  Twice Blackburn took 
the lead, but Norwich scored twice in three minutes in the second half to 
get the victory.  Even the appearance of Shearer as a substitute 
could not stop the Norwich win.  Sutton scored the first and third goals, 
with Newman getting the other one.  The report on R5 said Goss and Crook 
were outstanding in midfield.  


Jon

                     
    Congratulations to Norwich from a Blackburn fan,
    
    Last night I watched an excellent game, two sides came out to play 
    football and really put on a show. 2 shaky defences, 3 wingers 
    and nice short grass really makes a difference. About half a dozen
    chances at each end, the woodwork rattled twice, it could have gone 
    either way. 
    
    Very impressed with your forwards, Robins we know about but Sutton 
    looked like a very good target man and Fox caused a lot of problems.
    
    I expected (hoped?) Norwich would fold up like last year when we got 
    in front but they kept playing good positive stuff.
    
    I suspect you will beat a lot teams this season but with the defence
    playing like that you are still likely to get the odd stuffing ! Its 
    amazing how similar these teams are. 
    
    The only question that remains is why, when you got the lead 20 minutes
    from the end, did you turn into Wimbledon ? 
    
    The football stopped, the time wasting and cynical fouls started. It 
    looked like the whole team s--t themselves as soon as Shearer came on. 
    The way you were playing the ball around you could have run the clock 
    down and scored a couple more.
    
    Still, I'm happy, it was a bloody good game, Shearer is back and 
    we've got Oldham at home on Saturday.

Jon,

Did you notice that Phillips has finally left the Nest??

According to the box he joined Forest for �500,000. He doesn't see it as a
step down since he believes that Forest are going to bounce straight back to
the Premier League.

Let's hope Walker goes and finds a suitable replacement for him. Alternatively
buy a decent defender to bolster the defence. 5 goals in two games already.

Regards
Kev

    Hi Kev,
    
    Yes, it was in today's paper.  I knew that he was not happy at Norwich,
    so it was just a question of time before he left.  Getting half a
    million for a player of his age cannot be all that bad.
    
    I doubt whether Walker will splash out on a replacement.  He has said
    that he thinks he doesn't need to strengthen the squad at the moment.
    However, as you say, the defence looks like it will be as porous as
    last season.
    
    Jon

Leeds 0
Norwich 4

I can't ever remember Norwich winning 4-0 away from home, but they managed 
it on Saturday.  I enjoyed watching the highlights on Match of the Day, 
especially Goss's goal.  Quickly turning defence into attack with some 
lovely passes, Butterworth eventually passed to Fox on the wing, who hit a 
long cross for Goss to run on to and volley into the roof of the net from 
about 20 yards.  Even the Leeds supporters were heard applauding that one! 
Alan Hansen, for once, had some good things to say about Norwich, and 
compared the goal to van Basten's in the 1988 Euro Championship final.

The other goals were all partly thanks to some abysmal defending by Leeds. 
Fox scored two, and Sutton got the other.  Norwich also had two goals 
disallowed for offside - the first one looked dubious, but the second one 
was definitely offside.

After the game, both Mike Walker and Jeremy Goss seemed more pleaseed that 
we had kept a clean sheet rather than scored 4 goals.

Jon

Two things about Goss' goal:

1) It was tremendous, and will be a candidate for goal of the season

2) It was nowhere near as good as van Basten's, which was struck from a far more
acute angle against a team with a defence in a major International Cup Final

No disrespect intended. 

Mike

    
    	Mike is right about Van Bastens goal.
    
    	I know Leeds were to blame for some of the goals, but Norwich could
    easily have had more. They had a penalty turned down as well as the 2
    off-side goals, and played some lovely one touch football with Sutton
    outstanding I thought.
    
    
    		Steve

re. last 2

I agree that Goss's goal was not as good as van Basten's.  Goss was almost 
straight in front of goal, whereas van Basten was wide on the right.  It 
will probably win Goal of the Month, and should give young Goss confidence 
to get forward more often.

Jon

According to CEEFAX (I don't buy a paper) Norwich won the performance of the
week award for the 4-0 win at Leeds. That gives them �650 to donate to a local
boys club.

Two gifts from Lukic for two of the goals - not that he could do much about the
first, but the fourth!!!!

Regards
Kevin

Norwich 1
Ipswich 0

At last, we've managed to beat out local rivals, Ipswich.  Jeremy Goss 
scored his second goal of the season (he only got one League goal all last 
season), after about half an hour.  This result put us into third place in 
the League, and ended Ipswich's 100% record.

In the Coca-Cola Cup, we've got Bradford City. The first leg is away.

Jon

Norwich 0
Swindon 0

A disappointing draw against the League's whipping boys, but I suppose that 
Swindon had to improve sooner or later.  Polsten came nearest to scoring, 
hitting the post in the first half.  Swindon also had a couple of chances, 
but Gunn was in good form.

There seems to be some confusion around the date for the second leg of the 
UEFA Cup game in Arnhem.  Norwich thought it was on the Wednesday, but 
Arnhem want to move it to the Thursday due to TV coverage.  Robert Chase, 
the Norwich chairman, said that TV, not the football authorities, are now 
running the game.  This is a bit rich, considering Chase was one of the 
chairmen who negotiated the contract for Sky TV!

Jon

    So what's the news on the Sheff Wed comeback then???
    
    I have to keep in touch via telephone from here and the papers are a
    day late.. One day I'll be beack there wiv me season ticket!!
    
    Lone City fan - france
    
    PS Philips never was much good, glad he's gone with Beckford
    
    Paul Ward

    >>    So what's the news on the Sheff Wed comeback then???
    
    Yes, I wouldn't mind knowing myself.
    
    Lone Wednesday fan - Germany.
    
    
    Al.

    Anyone hear about City turning down a 3 million bid for Chris Sutton
    from big spending Blackburn?
    
    Apparently it followed the Blackburn/City game!
    
    He's good, but not worth that - mind you if Wednesday paid that much
    for Sinton anything is possible
    
    Paul Ward

    
    I've been away for a couple of weeks, and am surprised that there is no
    comment on our great 3-0 win last Wednesday!  I managed to see highlights
    on EuroSport of the Norwich v. Vitesse game, and it looked that Norwich
    played some excellent football.  The goals were all scored in the
    second half - by Ekoku, Goss and Sutton.  I never expected us to win
    this game so convincingly, especially as our record at home before this
    game was 1 goal in 4 games.  Does anyone know if the date of the second
    leg has been resolved, and if it is live on BBC?
    
    In the League, Norwich fought back from 3-0 down at Sheff Wed to draw
    3-3!  I think Sutton got two and Newman got the other. I reckon
    Wednesday were feeling generous, or have totally lost confidence.
    
    Then we lost to Wimbledon at home, by 1-0, but we also do lose to them.
    
    Last Saturday, another draw at QPR, 2-2, after twice taking the lead.
    According to the report I heard, Norwich should have won comfortably.
    
    Jon

    
    Everton 1
    Norwich 5
    
    I saw on teletext that we were 1-0 down at half-time.  Then while
    watching the golf, I then put teletext on again at 4.30, and we were
    4-1 up!!  It eventually finished 5-1.  Efan Ekoku scored the first four
    goals, with Sutton getting the fifth.
    
    From brief highlights on Match of the Day, Everton could have been
    three or four-nil up at half-time.  But Ekoku really hit form in the
    second half, with three of his four goals from fast counter attacks. He
    scored one with his right foot, two with his left, and one with his
    head - so he is certainly versatile!
    
    This has moved us up to 5th in the League, and must be a confidence
    booster for the UEFA Cup game on Wednesday night.
    
    Watto, how did it look from the home supporters point of view??
    
    Jon

    
    Jon,
    
    thankfully I didn't go - so I can't add much to what you've said -
    Everton were 1-0 up and dominating the game (they hit the woodwork at
    1-0 and 1-1) - Norwich equalised a couple of minutes before half-time
    then murdered Everton's dodgy off-side trap in the second half. 
    Having seen the highlight's on MOTD and Norwich's annihilation of Leeds
    a couple of weeks back, I suspect they'll have a few more away wins
    like that before the season's over. It's great to watch, as long as
    you're not on the recieving end.
    
    Nice to hear that Ekoku's originally from Liverpool and a boyhood
    Liverpool supporter.............
    
    
    Paul

Arnhem 0
Norwich 0

Norwich did an excellent job of defending their 3-0 first leg lead.  The 
sweeper system kept the Arnhem strikers at bay, and even when they did get 
past the defence, Gunn was there to make some good saves.  The game got a 
bit physical at times, with 4 Norwich players being booked.  

If Ekoku finished as well as he did last Saturday, then we could have won 
this leg 3-0 as well.  Three times he had just the keeper to beat, but he 
lacked the killer touch each time.  Ekoku has attracted the attention of 
the Nigerian national team manager.  Ekoku's father is Nigerian, and if 
they qualify for the World Cup next year, Ekoku would be asked to play for 
them.  (He is currently qualified to play for both Nigeria and England.)

I shouldn't think that too many teams will be hoping to get us in 
tomorrow's draw.  

Jon

    
    Well if you were Mike Walker Jon, who would you fancy having a go at in
    the next round : Inter Milan, Juventus??
    
    On the ball city.....
    
    /Kev

Norwich 1
Coventry 0

A goal by Fox just before half-time was good enough to beat Coventry. 
According to Radio 5, Norwich created more chances that against Everton 
last week, but weak finishing restricted the score-line to 1-0.

An excellent UEFA Cup draw sees us playing Bayern Munich in the 2nd Round. 
It certainly is a great reward for beating Vitesse in the first round. I 
see that Bayern have been struggling (by their standards) this season, so 
who knows what's possible?!

Back to more mundane matters... we play Bradford on Wednesday in the 
Coca-Cola Cup.  We are 2-1 down after the first leg.

Jon

Chelsea 1
Norwich 2

A great morale booster for tomorrow night's game at Bayern Munich.  Norwich 
went 2-0 up, thanks to goals from Ruel Fox in the first half, and Chris 
Sutton in the second.  Chelsea got one goal back towards the end of the 
game, but the reports that I saw said Norwich well deserved their victory. 
We are now 2nd in the League, and have yet to lose away in the League this 
season.

Tomorrow night's game is being billed as the biggest in the club's history. 
Does anyone know if it is being shown live on Sky?  (I know there are 
highlights on BBC later in the evening.)  Efan Ekoku and John Polsten both 
missed Saturday's game with slight injuries, but are expected to be fit.

Jon

    Bayern Munich V Norwich is I believe live on Sky and highlights on BBC
    1.
    
    
    
    
    Gary

    
    Hi Jon,
    
        There's been no mention of this game on Sky. Eurosport would be a
    better bet but even then its unlikely to be live. A German channel may
    well be showing the game live, so if you receive satellite programs, I
    guess that would be your be bet.
    
    JBG
    

    I believe the German channel SAT1 maybe taking the game!
    I hope so, I'm planning to invade a mate with a satellite to see it
    
    Come on you Canaries 
    
    Paul

    It said in yesterday's 'News Of the World' that Bayern Munich V Norwich
    was being shown live on Sky Sports.  I think it was an advertisment it
    also showed other sports they are showing live.
    
    
    
    
    Gary

Thanks lads.

The big question is do I go to the pub to watch it?  I always put a jinx on 
them when I watch any of their games live on Sky.  (I saw three games on 
Sky last season, and we lost the lot.)  Mike Walker will never forgive me 
if I do watch this one :-)

Jon

�SUTRA::WARD
�    I hope so, I'm planning to invade a mate with a satellite to see it
   
	Buy him a pint instead. It'll be a lot less messy.

	Ian.

Just FYI...

	they're also showing the match live on SAT1 (start 20.00), so
	if you have a dish and no Sky Sports subscription, you can still
	watch it (AND if you don't mind a german commentator ;-)).

Eduard

    Eduard,
    
    My paper says programme starts at 20:25 (match at 20:30 I presume).

Rob,

	I guess you're right, I just looked it up on videotext early
	this morning (5.30) and I was still half asleep. :-)

Eduard

    
    ....and I checked on Sky this morning. Its definitely being shown live.
    Program starts at 20:00.
    
    JBG

    
    Match kick off is at 20:45......on Sat 1
    
    This is because the Eintract Frankfurt is on RTL (also on the Sat) live 
    at 19:00. Eintract are playing that unpronounceable team from the
    Ukraine...Dnejpropetrowsk....
    
    

    
    Bayern Munich............1  Norwich City.............2
    
    Excellent result !
    
    

   Well done Norwich !!  A brilliant result last night.

   Good luck for the 2nd leg @ Carrow Road.

   Nige.

Bayern Munich 1
Norwich City  2

What a result!  And at last I've broken my jinx - it was the first time 
that I've seen them win live on Sky.  It did not look good at the start, 
with both Ekoku and Polsten failing fitness tests.  Then early in the first 
half Mark Robins was injured and had to come off after 15 minutes.

I could not believe that we were 2-0 after half an hour.  The first goal 
was a great volley from just outside the penalty area by Jeremy Goss, after 
a poor defensive header by Matthaus. It was reminiscent of his goal against 
Leeds earlier in the season.  The second goal came from an Ian Crook 
free-kick. The bounce seemed to confuse the Brazilian defender Jorghino, 
and Bowen came in at the far post to head it past the 'keeper.  Munich got 
a goal back just before half time, a header by Nerlinger.

The second half was played mostly in the Norwich half of the pitch, but 
some excellent defending meant that only a few chances were created by 
Munich.  The best chance was a header by Valencia, which produced a fine 
save by Gunn.

Norwich are the first British team to beat Munich in the Olympic stadium. 
Lets hope that we can safely negotiate the 2nd leg.

Jon

    I thought the Canaries played some great stuff last night - I was
    particularly impressed with Cox who showed a great first touch, alot of
    pace and not a little skill. Culverhouse, the sweeper, did well and I
    thought Gunn played well too. All round a very intelligent disciplined
    performamnce with a couple of very good goals. 
    
    Bayern played their normal snooze-inducing 5 yard square ball sort of
    game which I remember so well from my days slurping gluhwein in the
    Olypiastadion. Dave Page must be a very happy man this morning!
    
    Norwich must beware the second leg though as Bayern travel well in
    Europe and Norwich are not the best home side.
    
    Jamie_who_used_to_watch_Norwich_when_Martin_Peters_was_the_main_man

    
    	I told you Norwich would beat them! Walker is a very intelligent
    manager (surprised he hasn't been mentioned in the 'who's next for
    England topic'). 
    
    	Anyway I was there last night and it was VERY cold! I thought the
    game was quite boring after Norwich went 2 up. But who can blame them
    for sitting on a two goal lead? I think Bayerns big name caused this
    and protected them from a bigger defeat. Bayern simply had NO ideas!
    Matthaus is wasted at sweeper.
    
    	Fox had a stinker for Norwich, but then he was playing very deep. I
    thought the Norwich back 5 played really well, especially Butterworth.
    
    		Good luck in the second leg
    
    		Steve

Excellent result, Well done Norwich.

�@

    I thought it was a superb performance.  We looked as though we had been
    playing away legs in europe for years.  Showed a lack of experience
    from time-to-time by giving the ball away, but apart from that superb.
    Mind you bayern did not play as they might - but was that us or them?
    
    Should be an interesting 2nd leg now! I hope to be there to see it!
    
    Paul

    
    > Mind you bayern did not play as they might - but was that us or them?
    
    
    	In my opinion 'them'. They are really not a great side, and
    although they have some fine individuals, are not as good a team as you
    would expect.
    
    		Steve

    I tend to agree! They looked a bit vulnerable at the back and really
    didn't seem capable enough of raising their game too much. They needed
    a bit more invention in mid-field and as for their Columbian guy - I
    can only guess that it was too cold for him.
    They are not out of it by any means, and with Norwich's home form
    (which I hope will improve) it's still an open tie. The real difference
    was the teamwork and the team spirit.
    
    I hope the second leg will be a good night for the canaries, at least
    we have our name in lights for 2 more weeks!
    Apparently the post match interviews on Sat1 were full of the german
    management and players complaining about how unlucky they were. Apart
    from one save they got exactly what they deserved. Mind you I would
    have given tow or three of them 5.9 for their dives.
    
    Paul

  Norwich got the lucky breaks last night, and defended their lead with some
excellent defending and an excellent save from Gunn. It will be hard for Norwich
to adapt a similar playing pattern in front of their home fans and that's where
Bayern excell. They have to score at least two goals at Carrow rd, so it should
be a cracker of a game...... 

                                                            -dave-

Norwich 0
West Ham 0

After the excitement of last week, this game was a bit of a let down. Both 
teams had a few chances but none were converted.  Norwich missed Ekoku and 
Robins up front, and apparently Sutton was still feeling his knock from the 
Munich game.  Morley came closest to scoring, hitting the post despite 
Newman trying to pull him down.  Instead of going down for a penalty, 
Morley kept his feet and almost won the game for West Ham.

We've got two games this week at Highbury - the Coca-Cola Cup tomorrow 
night, and a League match next Saturday.  What are the odds on two 0-0 
draws?

Jon

    Jon,
    
    Norwich should do okay at Highbury. 
    
    According to Mike Walker who was interviewed on Grandstand Saturday the
    home form problem is exactly the same problem Blackburn have.
    
    After last season, teams know you play good fast attacking football, and
    get a lot of goals on the counter attack moving quickly into the open
    spaces. 
    
    Therefore teams come to Norwich and keep it tight, defend in numbers
    and rely on the break themselves. This, if well organised, can be
    difficult to break down and is certainly a mark of respect.
    
    Like Blackburn your away form is good because the opposition are
    obliged to bring the game to you, thus the chances to counter attack
    are more frequent.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Andy
    
    p.s. After the Norwich Blackburn game I said Sutton looked good.
    Apparently Kenny thought so too and has offered �2M for him, and has made
    a bid for Ruel Fox. 
    
                  "If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em."     
           

    Anyone know if the Norwich/Bayern match is on satellite at all. I was
    going to be there, but work says otherwise. perhaps SAT1 or some other
    german channel is taking it from the Beeb.
    
    Anyone know?? 

It's on RTL at 21:00 CET.

Eduard

Sorry, I was misinformed. I've just been told it's on SAT 1, but the time
is correct.

Eduard

    
    
    Eh?? 
    
    The RTL program guide advertised it last night as being 'live coverage'
    at 21.10pm on time delay.
    
    Mind you RTL is as reliable as a PC running OS/2. :)

...believing it's on RTL and being told it's on SAT 1, I can only suggest
to check both channels tomorrow around 21:00 CET. ;-)

Eduard

  Our local footie programme "Ranisimo" (sounds like a drug) were advertising
the game on saturday and sunday... ie SAT1... But they are also going to show
NBA basketball at 10:00am every sunday morning... They had Eros Rammazotti on 
the programme sunday evening, (Italys male answer to Madonna) he looked fairly
good on the ball, should give Souness a call!!! After all Whelan, Molby, and
Stewart can't sing as good as this lad, I wouldn't even think about comparing
their footballing abilities!!!!!!  

   I heard Eurosport mention something about the Man Utd game on wednesday, does
anyone know if they are showing it live????????

                                                            slainte.....


                                                                 -dave-

    
    I do believe that all four German teams may be seen consecutively on
    the satellite on Wednesday beginning at 14:00 GMT 15:00 CET 
    	Dortmund, Leverkusen, Bremen and Bayern.....
    
    	Dezzz,
    PS.
     One might move over to the Turkish channel in the afternoon for United !!
       
    
    
    
                                                                    

Tonight's the big night.  The injury news is not great - Ekoku and Robins 
are both still out, but Polsten should be fit.  He will probably replace 
Spencer Prior in defence.  We've only conceded one goal in our last three 
games - can we keep up this record?

A good night in front of the TV tonight - Galatasary v Man Utd at 5.30, 
then Norwich v Munich at 7.15.  The only problem is that we shall have to 
put up with Motson and Hansen on the Norwich game!!

Jon

    Great result last night. After watching the match in Turkey where
    United did not have a shot on goal it was a pleasure to watch this.
    The commitment from the players was great and I thought Fox, Sutton
    but especially Goss were great. He was all over the place tackling,
    closing down players, passing, defending and finally scoring.
    
    Great result for the Canaries.
    
    Pat

    
    Congratulations Norwich on a great result and a great fighting
    performance. Being a goal down so early on, it looked a wee bit dodgy,
    but you came out "stormin'" in the second half. I think part of what
    made it so enjoyable was the contrast to that pathetic affair which
    kicked off at 5.30.
    
    Best of Luck.....Ned

    Well earned and well deserved victory for the Canaries last night.
    I thought Fox was great when he was on the ball, but looked intimidated
    by the, admittedly much larger, Munich defensive players.
    What a moaner Matthaus is! - he was rightly booked for it. After the
    match he was interviewed and he reckoned the 'better' team lost! - I
    don't know how he works that one out.
    It was nail biting stuff in the last 10 minutes though, with Munich looking
    dangerous on the break. Norwich still looked composed though, and I
    thought the coloured guy who was brought on (sorry can't remember his
    name) looked dangerous on the break too - he was unlucky to be caught
    off side after a superb through ball by Fox.
    Al.

    
    Matthaus......Should have been sent off 1 outragous tackle, man
    handling the ref, and his consent bickering at the officals....
    He should hang his boots up......
    
    Neil...

Must just claim my credit for this great win - I confidently predicted 
Bayern would win 2-0. Well done, Norwich. (I wonder if Bayern thought you were 
England's Galatasary? - "Well, of course we won't underestimate them, there 
are no easy teams at this stage [but roll on the next round!]")

Only sour point was Gunn getting booked for pointlessly getting involved with 
Matth�us - let's hope this doesn't come back to haunt you.

grahame

Well done the Canaries.

My exuberance at the scoring of the Norwich goal wasn't quite enough to put
my wife into labour although it did give both her and the baby a fright!!

The Norwich subs were Gary Megson and Aki Bayim(?).

Another goal from Goss should put record sales on his shirts in the Norwich
souvenir shop. Rumours are that they have sold out already.

Perhaps we'll get Bobby Robsons team in the next round??

Regards from a rather pleased Norwich exile
Kev

    
    So does Christian Ziege still consider Norwich to be a Vfb Leipzig!!!
    
    The last Bayern player to come out with such a naive statement like
    that was Effenberg about Cork City....and now he's playing 2nd division
    football in Italy....Herr Effenberg.
    
    Dezzz. 

Norwich 1
Munich 1

A well deserved draw was enough to put us through on aggregate 3-2.  It 
didn't look too promising at the start, with Munich scoring after 4 
minutes.  Rob Newman headed ouyt a corner, but it unluckily rebounded of 
Polston to Valencia, who hit it into the net.  During the next few minutes 
it looked that Norwich could be overwhelmed, but they managed to hang on. 
Sutton had a couple of chances, but Munich dominated most of the first 
half.  I was extremely relieved that we did not conceed another goal 
before half-time.

In the second half, Norwich were much more positive, chasing everything and 
much tighter in midfield.  Jerry Goss and Ian Crook were outstanding.  
Norwich equalised after 6 minutes of the second half - A cross from the 
left by Bowen was headed on by Sutton into the path of - who else? - Jerry 
Goss, who calmly slotted it home.  This gave Norwich a tremendous boost, 
and they started to play some really nice football.  Bayern looked 
dangerous on the break, but good defending, and another great performance 
by Gunn, kept them out.  

Gunn got booked towards the end after pushing Matthaus, who was also 
booked.  This means that we now have 8 players on one yellow card - this 
could be crucial in the next round.

After beating Vitesse Arnhem and Bayern Munich, we'll fear no-one in the 
next round.

Jon

    An Excellent performance!
    
    I was fully expecting the Germans to come and do the job on us, but
    after giving away the early goal I thought we composed ourselves and
    got on with it without ever really being intimidated. Gunny made those
    two vital saves, but never realy had much to do in the second half.
    
    I thought tactically we played it just right, pushed up on them and
    never gave them enough time to play around with it. After the goal
    Bayern seemed totally at sea for about half an hour and city looked
    well in control. A superb preformance yet again! Well done the lads.
    
    I wonder if they will seed us for the next round??
    
    Paul

Just heard - the next round is against Inter Milan.  Can't get bigger than 
that!  First leg at Carrow Road on November 24th, away leg on 8th December. 

Jon

    sigh... Jon another easy draw (:==:)

Sheff United 1
Norwich 2

Goals from Jeremy Goss in the first half, and Darren Eadie in the second, 
secured another away win for us.  Sheffield's goal was a penalty after 
Polsten was adjudged to have handled the ball.

The games against Liverpool on 24th November and Blackburn on 8th December 
will have to be re-arranged due to our UEFA Cup games.  Also, the Leeds 
game on 11th December has been moved to the following Monday for Sky TV.

An excellent interview with Mike Walker on Footy Focus on Saturday. The 
interviewer asked him if he would be making any trips to Milan to watch 
Inter before the UEFA Cup games.  "Yeah, what a drag!" Walker replied, with 
a big grin on his face.  

Watching the Milan derby yesterday on Channel 4, there was a great 
atmosphere in the stadium.  It should be great night when Norwich play 
there.

Jon

    Has EUFA decided what to do about the clash of dates on the 2nd leg
    with AC Milan?
    
    Paul

Paul,

I have heard nothing about it yet.  I would expect that Inter will play on 
the Tuesday, and AC on the Wednesday, or vice versa.

Jon

    Surely Norwich could beat them both?

    
    re -2,
    
    Inter play on Dec 8th.  Milan play Porto on Dec 1st to allow them more
    time to prepare for Tokyo.  It also means more tv rights and an extra
    match on tv from the Champions league.
    
    Gary.

Norwich 0
Arsenal 3

We were comprehensively beaten last night in the Coca-Cola Cup.  From the 
TV highlights, Arsenal were definitely the better team.  Norwich did not 
look too interested.  A great performance from Wright, especially his first 
goal, chipping over Gunn after Gunn had slipped when coming out to claim 
the ball.

I cannot say I'm too disappointed by the result, as it will mean fewer 
games to play.  Apart from International weeks, Norwich have played a 
midweek game every week since the start of the season.

Jon

    I gather the italians are messing around with KO times! Some say
    an afternoon KO and others an evening KO. Something to do with TV and
    or visiting fans, I'm not sure!
    I wish they'd make their minds up, then I can decide how to go there or
    even if I can go there!
    Either way, I'll try and get there!
    
    Paul (3 hours by car from Valbonne)

    Mmh... maybe you are too sure of yourself...
    
    Pino

    
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    >                           -< PM or late PM >-
    
    
    Hi Paul,
    
    Do you know if the game is all-ticket?  Are you just going to turn up
    and pay on the gate?
    
    Jon (who is also thinking of going to Milan).

Norwich 1
Man. City 1

Two more home points dropped, and according to most reports, we were lucky 
to get even one point.  Ruel Fox scored our goal, after about an hour.  But 
Quinn equalised for the Mancs only a minute later.

Yet again, Wednesday night is going to be 'the biggest night in our 
history', playing Inter Milan.  Robins and Ekoku are both still injured, 
and Fox picked up an injury on Saturday, so is doubtful.  The kick-off is 
7.10pm GMT, and is being shown live on BBC1.  

I have managed to get a ticket for the second leg, in the San Siro.  It 
should be quite an experience!  The kick-off for that game is 3.00pm local 
time (2.00pm in the UK).  I do not know why it's an afternoon kick-off - 
probably something to do with TV.  

Jon 

    Hi Jon
    
    I was contemplating just turning up and paying on the door. I don't
    believe it is all ticket and even if it is I wouldn't have thought it
    was a sellout! I've contacts in Milan who can get tickets either way!
    
    I'm waiting to see what tip the club itself is offering to see if any
    of my friends/relations etc want to come here and go on from here!
    I gather there is some controversy over the Italians wanting to pen in
    all the Norwich supporters for hours on end and the club are in
    discussions witht he home office about it. Nothing it seems is easy!!
    
    Is the first leg on Satelite at all? (weather permitting that is)
    
    Paul

Paul,

Yes, I saw the stories in the local paper over the weekend about the 
"welcome" that the Italian plod are going to lay on for Norwich fans.  
Officials from Norwich are in discussions with them about relaxing the 
heavy-handed approach.  They say that Norwich fans went to both Arnhem and 
Munich and there was no trouble, so why should Milan be any different.

Jon

    Hi Jon
    
    I know, I've spoken to several people who would go if they were to be
    treated properly, but are not going if they are to be herded around
    like the animals they are not!
    
    By the way, has Auntie Beeb flogged off the match to any of the
    satellite companies or italain tele that I could watch on?
    
    I have to get to see it somehow!!
    Perhaps they are thiking about protecting them from the Italian fans
    and not the other way around!
    
    paul

    
    Paul,
    
    I don't know about any satellite TV coverage of the match tomorrow. At
    the moment, the pitch has got a covering of snow on it, but Norwich say
    they do not expect any difficulties with the game going ahead.  We do
    not have any undersoil heating, so a frozen pitch is a possibility.
    
    As for TV coverage of the away leg, last I heard was that the BBC and
    ITV were still involved in bidding for it, but ITV said that because it
    is an afternoon game, it doesn't have as much appeal to them as an
    evening match.
    
    Jon

    I believe tehy are building a new generator room to house the motors to
    drive the undersoil heaqting that is installed but not operating as
    yet. They are getting there though.
    Personally I think Carrow Rd is one of the best grounds in the country
    for facilities etc. and when they get the new south stand done, it will
    really be good. Not up to the Arsenals and such, but all the same,
    pretty good.  Let's hope it does go ahead tomorrow- cath the italians
    while it's cold!
    
    Let me know of you hear anything about the Satellite coverage!
    Cheers
    Paul

>>  		but ITV said that because it
>>    is an afternoon game, it doesn't have as much appeal to them as an
>>    evening match.


Didn't seem to stop them when the Rep. Ireland were playing ;-)

Al

    
    As regards the issue of Norwich fans being "penned in" at San Siro, I
    have to say that the Italian attitude towards the English hooligan
    problem is among the more paranoic in Europe. I'm not saying that
    they're right or wrong, but since I've been living here I've had ample
    evidence of their views on the subject. From what people tell me, it
    would appear that their preoccupation is motified largely by the
    exploits of English (British) fans at the following three matches:
    
    - the 1970 European Cup Final between Celtic and Feyenoord (held in
      Milan)
    - the England vs. Belgium match in Turin during the 1980 European
      championships (police intervened using tear gas)
    - the infamous Heysel match 
    
    Measures to combat the problems posed by an "invasion" of Norwich fans
    were probably being drafted as soon as Norwich's name came out of the
    hat. The irony (in Norwich's case) is that you'd be hard pushed to find
    a nicer, more harmless club.
    
    Lastly, I recall the police "penning in" the Glasgow Rangers fans when
    they were drawn against Inter about 8 years ago. Friends of mine who
    are Inter supporters tell me that these same Scottish fans then had to
    endure cups of urine being poured down on them from above throughout
    the match. 
    
    Obviously, this behaviour shouldn't be taken as indicative of your
    average Inter fan, but don't expect them to be angels either.  
    
    Dom
                                                                      

    
    	The early afternoon return match , here in Milano, it is baecause
    	Dec. 8th is a public holyday, and everyone who remain in town, 
    	prefer the warmest afternoon temperature than the freezing nites.
    
    	We will take any prevent procedure as much as possible, and you can
    	imagine why, for isolating Norwich fans from the rest of the crowd,
    	even if I don't know how many attendant will have the match,
    	connsidering that Norwich is practically unknown here in Italy.
    
    	Naturally , it will depend on what will happen tomorrow in Carrow
    	Rd. , on both questions, welcome that we'll have up there will be
    	the same you'll find in San Siro in December ( so it's up to you
      	.......)
    
    	To clearify some confused ideas to you English :
    	
    	In Milano we have two teams , Milan and Inter ; Norwich will play
    	vs. FC INTERNAZIONALE , surely the second in terms of cups and 
    	champinship won, but , to reply to one of the guy who wrote a note
    	some days ago ( Inter who ?? ) I want to remember that WE won 2
        times the European Cup , two times the International Cup, one UEFA
    	cup ( two years ago ) and 13 Italian Championships ( as much as
        Milan ) AC is not the name of the team , that is Milan of Milano,
    	but stay only Associazione Calcio ( football Association ).
    
    	Could you please insert some Norwich issues for us here, just to
    	know something about you ?
    
    	Hope the best will win tomorrow nite, and the show will satisfy the
    	TV audience.
    
    	Ciao.		Sergio.
    
    		( F.C. Internazionale supporter, if it wasn't clear ...)
     
    	

>    are Inter supporters tell me that these same Scottish fans then had to
>    endure cups of urine being poured down on them from above throughout
>    the match. 
    
CUPS?! How very polite.

g

    Sure beats the bloke next to you peeing in your wellies !
    
    Rich.

    
    Sergio,
    
    I'm sure that there will be no trouble for the visiting Inter fans
    tomorrow night.  One thing that the local police are worried about is
    if any supporter brings any flares into the ground - after the tragedy
    in Cardiff last week they are not taking any chances.
    
    Carrow Road is a small all-seater ground, holding just over 20,000
    people.  This is the first season that Norwich have played in any
    European competition.  They finished third in the Premier League last
    season, and are currently third again this season.  The only
    international players in the team are Bryan Gunn, the Scottish
    goalkeeper, and the Welsh Internationals Mark Bowen and Jeremy Goss.
    Their great strength is that they play together as a team, and prefer
    the passing game rather than the "Route 1" style.
    
    This season, Norwich have been much more successful away rather than at
    home.  In the League, we have scored only three goals in seven
    games at home, but have scored 21 goals away.
    
    I'll settle for a draw at Carrow Road, followed by a victory for
    Norwich in the San Siro :-)
    
    Jon

    yeah OK But is it on Satellite telly anywhere!
    
    My nails are disappearing fast!!
    
    paul

    
    	Reply to .251
    
    	Jon,
    	its courious to know that Canaries are doing better abroad than
	home, because Inter is doing the exactly opposite !
    
    	We were un-beated since April 1992 in the Italian League, but last
    	Nov. 7th we lost the Derby vs. Milan ( 0-1 )
    
    	I'm sure it'll be nice to see what will happen ...
    
    	Apropose of the broadcasting, I don't know about the Satellites
    	programs, but I know the Italian State TV ( RAI ) will broadcast
    	the match 2 hours deferred from the kick-off !!  ( 10:30 p.m. local
    	time )
    
    	The nails are in danger for tonite .....
    
    	Just another thing : 
    	I heard yesterday night on TV that there is a danger of snow and so
    	of delay of the game or even also  a re-scheduling .
    
    	Are the weather condition so bad today, and what do you think about
    	this ?
    
    	Cheers.		Sergio.
     

    Come on Norwich fans how do we find out if the match is on tonight.
    Do any of you know an information telephone number?
       Any inside information?        
        -------------------------------------------------- 

    I've just had a fax from a friend in Norwich who says it is definitely
    ON following a lunchtime inspection!!
    
    Seems to be warming up a bit!
    
    Aren't sky/eurosprot or any other such entity taking it! I can't get 
    RAI 1 on satellite anyway
    
    paul

    
    re. 254
    
    Phone them.....
    
                       < > Norwich City Football Club
                             Carrow Rd
                              Norfolk, NR 1 1JE
                               Norwich         (0603) 760760
                               Norwich         (0603) 761661
                               Norwich         (0603) 761125
    
    Paul

    match is also being shown live on BBC1, starting at 7:00 o'clock ???
    
     SQF Jambo

     Even in Scotland...and on poor mans TV.Amazing...the SFA are just so
    consistent
    
    
    
    SCott

    Shame we can't get the Beeb in the south of france!
    
    Oh well looks like, I'll have to go out and forget all about it!!
    
    Come you canaries!!!
    
    

Norwich 0
Inter 1

This was an entertaining match, with Norwich matching the Italians for much 
of the game.  Inter's goal was a penalty with 10 minutes to go.  Rob 
Newman's rash challenge on Ruben Sosa was a clear penalty, and Bergkamp 
made no mistake from the spot.  This made up for three earlier chances 
which he failed to put away.  One of these, he only had Gunn to beat, but 
seemed in two minds and Gunn was able to kick the ball clear.

Inter looked very dangerous every time they attacked, but Norwich's defence 
coped well, with Ian Culverhouse outstanding as the sweeper.  Norwich were 
a bit lightweight in attack, with Sutton and Fox virtually playing on their 
own - the midfield support was lacking, especially in the first half.  
However, in the second half, Norwich created a few more oppurtunities.  
Jeremy Goss hit the cross-bar with a shot from just outside the penalty 
area, and Crook should have put the rebound on target.

The really disappointing aspect of the match was that three Norwich players 
- Butterworth, Crook and Culverhouse - were booked and will not play in the 
second leg (they had all been booked in previous UEFA Cup ties).  It will 
be difficult in the San Siro, but that's what they said about playing 
Bayern Munich in the Olympic Stadium...

Jon

    
    I too thought it was a fairly entertaining match, a view not shared by
    the Italian press. They (and the TV commentator) thought that Inter
    throughly dominated, the winning margin could have been a lot bigger,
    etc. etc.
    
    Actually, Inter did look more convincing in recent weeks, but i have to
    share Jon's view that Norwich looked a little lightweight up front.
    They haven't got much strength in depth and can't really afford to be
    without Robbins and Ehiogu (sp?), let alone Crook (and Culverhouse +
    Butterworth) in the return leg. Still, they tried to play football and
    it's a pleasure to behold a team where every player is comfortable on
    the ball. People like Bowen, Goss and Fox knock the ball about
    beautifully. 
    
    Perhaps a little more experience is needed - Newman's tackle for the
    penalty was pretty unnecessary, and I think most Norwich fans would
    have been delighted with a 0-0 draw given their tremendous away form.
    Still, all is not lost; when you've seen Inter screw up at San Siro as
    many times as I have, there's always hope. I remember an infamous UEFA
    tie against Bayern Munich where they won 2-0 in Germany, only to lose
    the home leg 3-1 (3-0 down after half an hour)!
    
    However, I'd have been a lot more optimistic had Crook not been
    booked...
    
    Dom
     

    
    But Dom...losing to Bayern Munich in that game was the first time in 34
    years that Inter lost at home in a European match...
    
    Dezzz.

    
    .... 0-1 for us....its unbelieveble !! It should be 1-3 at least !!!
    
    You guys in England must have watched another match on BBC1 .....
    
    Inter clearly dominated the match, with the only fault of haven't
    scored the half of occasion created.
    
    The only goal chance that Norwich had was the one Jeremy Goss had,
    unfortunately finished on cross-bar and the successive rebound
    finished out in the crowd .
    
    The yellow cards on the head of the most rapresentative men of the
    Norwich defense, is just one the proof of the Inter domination .
    In addition, the last book, foul on Bergkamp alone, going to score,
    ( fouled down by the last man of the defense ) was an interference
    that it should be payed with a RED card !!
    ( as last UEFA rules clearly explains )
    
    Bergkamp, alone, missed at least 3 clear goal chances, and the last,
    just 1 minute before the penalty, due to a kick on the feet in the
    meantime he was hitting the ball to a sure goal, and not because
    Gunn was able to kick the ball clear ( you should better check
    out the replay on that action, Jon .....)
    
    re. .261
    
    > Still, all is not lost; when you've seen Inter screw up at San Siro
    > as  many times as I have, there's always hope. I remember an
    > infamous UEFA tie against Bayern Munich where they won 2-0 in
    > Germany, only to lose the home leg 3-1 (3-0 down after half an hour)!
    
    I completely agree with .262 :
    
    I was there too, in that f...ing nite.
    
    That was a combination of negative events, expecially in the second
    half, that is very to difficult to re-produce in a 'normal' match.
    
    But as I said in my previous note, S.Siro will tell the last word,
    but I hope for Norwich they'll have an heavyer attack, or they'll
    be lost in the 'Scala of football'.
    
    Good luck !
    
                    Sergio
    

Sergio,

>    In addition, the last book, foul on Bergkamp alone, going to score,
>    ( fouled down by the last man of the defense ) was an interference
>    that it should be payed with a RED card !!
>    ( as last UEFA rules clearly explains )
 
Yes, I agree that Culverhouse was lucky to stay on the pitch after that.

>    Bergkamp, alone, missed at least 3 clear goal chances, and the last,
>    just 1 minute before the penalty, due to a kick on the feet in the
>    meantime he was hitting the ball to a sure goal, and not because
>    Gunn was able to kick the ball clear ( you should better check
>    out the replay on that action, Jon .....)

The Gunn save that I was refering to was the one in the first half when 
Bergkamp tried to take the ball round Gunn.  If you claim that Bergkamp's 
miss was a foul, then what about Lee Power being pushed over in the penalty 
area just before the end?  It's no use worrying about these now - they tend 
to even themselves out over the two games.

What was the reaction of the press in Italy to the game?  Is there a danger 
that Inter will be over confident for the second leg?

Jon

    re: .263
    
    >.... 0-1 for us....its unbelieveble !! It should be 1-3 at least !!!
    
    >You guys in England must have watched another match on BBC1 .....
    
    >Inter clearly dominated the match, with the only fault of haven't
    >scored the half of occasion created.
    
    Where's your problem, Sergio? 
    
    Nobody's said that Inter didn't deserve to win; I think the scoreline
    was about right and Inter looked resolute and better organised than in
    recent weeks. Sure, there's disappointment that Norwich didn't get a
    0-0 draw, given that they seem to be more dangerous away from home, but
    no arguments with the result.
    
    Goss's shot against the bar was Norwch's best chance, but not their
    *only* chance; Sutton had several headers on goal, and Fox/Sutch both
    got round the back of the defence on numerous occasions. Otherwise, how
    do you explain that most of the newspapers here gave Zenga 6.5 out of
    10? That said, it would be folly not to admit that Inter had the best
    opportunities. 
    
    By the way, I watched the match on RAI 1, not BBC. I even knew the
    result beforehand (the game wasn't shown live) and having heard the
    Italian news reports, I was fully expecting a one-sided contest. So I
    was somewhat surprised to see a reasonably even match.
    
    Just a tip: next time you watch a game on RAI TV, try turning the sound
    down - especially if Bruno "Mussolini" Pizzul is the commentator. It
    won't change the result, but it might just affect your interpretation
    of events on the field...
    
    Dom
                   

    I think Norwich were very unlucky not to have a penalty in the final
    minute.  As the TV replay showed Lee Power was clearly pushed.  Inter
    though were the better team and deserved the victory.  It was good luck
    that Berkamp didn't score more.  He usually tucks those away every
    week.  
    
    I still believe that Norwich have a chance.  
    
    Good luck to Norwich and well done to Inter,
    
    
    GAry....

    Not having seen a single second of it, my only comment is that I hope
    at least Nkoku is fit for the 2nd leg so that we can kick some ass in
    the second leg and get around the notoriously square Inter back 4.
    
    I don't know what you're on Sergio, but save the passion for the
    bedroom and leave the serious analysis to the guys who take a non
    partisan view (ie the non Norwich supporters who have commented so far
    - with the possible exception of Jon)
    
    Roll on the San Siro and to a 2-1 victory!!
    
    Bring on Efan!!
    Paul

    re: .267
    >Not having seen a single second of it, my only comment is that I hope
    >at least Nkoku is fit for the 2nd leg so that we can kick some ass in
    >the second leg and get around the notoriously square Inter back 4.
    
    >I don't know what you're on Sergio, but save the passion for the
    >bedroom and leave the serious analysis to the guys who take a non
    >partisan view (ie the non Norwich supporters who have commented so far
    >- with the possible exception of Jon)
    
    And anyone who reads Jon's regualar reports on Norwich matches will 
    agree that he's probably the least partisan of all the people who write
    in this conference! Maybe that's what comes of supporting a small club
    who are finally giving their supporters something to shout about - no
    one *expects* them to do well.
    
    Not wishing to sound condescending, but in Sergio's defence, I think he
    might not fully have understood one or two of the previous notes and
    read something into them that wasn't there. No one's denying that Inter
    looked fairly impressive the other night - here's hoping you do the
    business against Juventus on Sunday!
    
    Dom
    

Paul,

I wouldn't hold out too much hope for Ekoku in the second leg.  Both he and 
Robins were interviewed at half-time.  Ekoku said he hopes to start 
training next week, so at most he will only have one game before the Inter 
game.  But after such a long lay-off (about 6 weeks), he surely won't be 
match fit.  At best, I'd hope that he will a sub.  As for Robins, it will 
be at least a couple of weeks before he starts training.

re. the last few notes.
I never disputed that Inter were the better team on Wednesday.  Indeed, if 
Bergkamp had been on top form, the tie would be as good as over.

The Norwich players are on 10,000 pounds per man to win the second leg in 
the San Siro.  This should be quite an incentive, considering that no 
player earns more than 2,000 per week (according to Teletext last night).

Jon

    I thought that there was an interesting comment made by Barry Davies
    during the BBC1 commentary on the Norwich v Inter Milan game.
    
    When one of the Norwich players was booked ( can't remember which one )
    for tackling from behind, he said something along the lines that
    British footballers have got to expect bookings from European referees 
    for that type of tackle and, if British referees had done the same,
    there would be a lot more skill in the British game.
    
    Terry

    re: .270
    I'm afraid I think that's a gross over-semplification of the problems
    of British football.
    
    When Maradona scored his infamous goal against England in the '86 World
    Cup (the one he scored with his feet!), the general consensus here in
    Italy was: "Great goal, but if he'd tried it against us, Scirea or
    Bagni would have bodychecked him or elbowed him off the ball long
    before he got anywhere near the penalty area (accepting the
    consequential yellow card, of course), and that would have been that".
    
    I don't think asking referees to stamp out sliding tackles or tackles
    from behind will increase the skill factor. In Italy, considerably more
    emphasis is placed on the importance of *stopping* your opponent from
    playing (and more sinister measures are employed to do so!), but the
    skilful players, such as Van Basten, Platini and Maradona have always
    managed to thrive.
    
    In any case, there's nothing I like more than a rock hard challenge for
    a 50-50 ball, where both players get up without a murmur of complaint.
    If you're saying, however, that there's some discrepancy in the
    interpretation of the laws between Britain and the Continent, then
    maybe I agree.
    
    Dom
    
    

Oldham 2
Norwich 1

This was our first away defeat in the League this season (and was Oldham's 
first home win of the season).  All goals came in the second half, Oldham 
taking the lead, then Sutton equalised for us.  Oldham scored a second, and 
then with 8 (?) minutes to go, the Oldham player Mackin (sp?) was sent off 
(rather harshly it seems) for a second bookable offence.  Norwich hit the 
woodwork twice, but were a bit below par.

For the first time this season (excluding international weeks), Norwich are 
without a midweek game this week.  Just as well, considering our next two 
games are away at Manchester United and Inter Milan!

Jon

I didn't meant to offend nobody's proud with my last reply, but I
ask all of you that it were, to forgive me.

To answer to Jon's question on Italian press reaction, as you read on
Dom's reply, the Italian press considered the match a one-side contest,
even if less than expected. ( Statistic said Inter had 9 clear scoring
chance, vs. 3 of the Canaries .......and so on ...)

The risk of under-valuate the return leg exists, but there will be a lot 
of attention in preparing the psycological aspect, that is the only danger
that could reverse the spreads on the match.
In addition there will be more attention on playing 'covered' because in the 
last match vs. Juventus, we lost both our midfields, Jonk and Manicone, 
and they probably skip the match ( Jonk for sure; he will have artro-
scopic surgery today in Holland )

Finally, I couldn't give-up some questions appeared in the succesive
reply to mine :
 
	re.  to .263 :

I don't listen to Pizzul's comment,( he's a declared Milanista )
 I usually follow the match on TV with the comment of the 
Gialappa's Band on Deejay Radio ( FM 99.7 in Milano ) 
I suggest you to look for, Dom .....

	re.  to .266 :

The most objective reply...

But the push of the last minute is just one of undredth that 
happen during a soccer match  ( as somebody said correctly, this
is not basketball....)
	

	re.  to .267

About the passion, I agree with you, ( and my wife too...)
Italian are world famous to prefer bedroom Gym over everything .....
Infact I'm only a 'light' Inter fan.
Anyway, I reviewed the tape of the match twice, after all this replies,
and I'm still convinced that in the contest of the 90 minutes, the gap in
the score is a bit restricted...
I suggest you also to watch the return leg, before sayng something on 
serious analysis ( without concerning about Jon's report , that was OK )

	re.  to .270 and .271

I partially agree with Terry and Barry Davies comment : I don't think the 
idea oversemplify the question. It's true that the English football is 
rougher than the European standard, and so are the referees meter. 
I'm sure that preserving the 'playmakers' of a certain class, like Bergkamp,
is a guarantee to a better show, for all the attendant, without exclusion.


	Ciao.	Sergio.

    Latest 10 minutes
    -----------------
    
    Inter Milan    0         Norwich City    0
    
    The Radio has said Norwich are playing all the football and Inter are
    under pressure.  
    
    /Gary....

    Latest 20 minutes
    -----------------
    
    Inter Milan    0         Norwich City    0
    
    Norwich still attacking well though a mistake by Bowen almost let Sosa
    in.
    
    
    /Gary....

    Latest 30 minutes
    -----------------
    
    Inter Milan    0       Norwich City     0         Agg 1-0
    
    Norwich still playing well.
    
    
    /GAry....

    Latest 40 minutes
    -----------------
    
    Inter Milan     0       Norwich City     0        Agg 1-0
    
    Efan Ekoku had a great chance but just failed to score.  Berkamp is looking
    dangerous but Norwich look good  on the break.
    
    
    /Gary...

Good work Gary. Almost as exciting as the real thing, and significantly more
exciting than an Arsenal match.

Cheers,

Mike

    HALF-TIME
    ---------
    
    Inter Milan       0          Norwich City      0       Agg  1-0
    
    Norwich have been the better side in the first half and should be at
    least 1 goal ahead.  Ekoku is playing very well.  
    
    /Gary

    
    Is Goss playing? and if so are they 2 man marking him?

    Goss is playing and he did set up a great chance for Ekoku just before
    half-time.  On the radio they've been saying that Norwich have taken
    the game to Milan and really out-played them so far.
    
    /Gary

    Latest 55 minutes
    -----------------
    
    Inter Milan      0         Norwich City          0       Agg 1-0
    
    All Norwich at the moment.
    
    
    /GAry

    
    The best thing you've done for this conference. Keep it up Gar !
    
    I'm on the edge of me seat.....
    
    
    Come on Norwich !!!!!!!
    
    Peter(An Impartial Celt).

    Re 284
    
    Thanks Pete
    
    Latest 67 Minutes
    -----------------
    
    Inter Milan      0         Norwich City      0        Agg 1-0
    
    Berkamp was through a couple of minutes ago and went round Gunn but
    dived and the ref didn't give a penalty.  Inter are playing well but
    Norwich are still having chances.
    
    /Gary

    Bergkamp is clean through.......
    
    And Gunn has brought him down.......
    
    and it's......

    NOT a penalty.....

    
    re: .last 
    
    You Ba$!@*^d. :-))
    
    Peter(An Impartial Celt)

    Latest 75 Minutes
    -----------------
    
    Inter Milan       0         Norwich City         0       Agg 1-0
    
    
    Lee Power has just come on for a defender but i'm not sure who.  Inter
    are starting to waste time with diving...etc...
    
    
    Gary.... 

    Latest 85 Minutes
    -----------------
    
    Inter Milan     0        Norwich City       0          Agg 1-0
    
    Norwich throwing players forward.
    
    /Gary

    Inter Milan     1      Norwich City      0       Agg 2-0
    Berkamp 89
    
    
    
    
    Gary

    Final Score
    -----------
    
    Inter Milan      1          Norwich City       0       Agg 2-0
    Berkamp 89
    
    Norwich played really well and didn't deserve to lose.  2,000 (est)
    Norwich fans made the trip and Norwich are getting a great reception 
    from their fans.
    
    Gary

    
    Gary,
    
    is 'Young Doctors' on yet ? - if so, can you give us an update ?
    
    Paul

    Re 293
    
    Wrong channel Paul.  Football was on BBC 1.  I will however give you an
    update of Brookside tomorrow.  
    
    Gary:-)

	
	Shall we now have a big debate on the state of English football and
	why it's not successfull in Europe and on the international scene?????

    Gary,
    
    Did you see Jon on the TV? 
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    .297
    
    No sign of Jon.  Did he go???  The Norwich fans outsang the Italians.
    
    
    Gary...

    
    You could hardly say Norwich were not successful in Europe.
    They gave us all some entertainment, and I'm sure teams will not be 
    too happy about getting drawn against them, if they make it into Europe 
    next year.
    
    Se�n

RE. .299

You're right Sean, after all their supporters did outsing the Italians.

Tony

    Yes apparently Jon was there - hopefully someone videod the game 
    maybe he'll be on th 9'0 clock news.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    Maybe you are right when you talk about the songs, but the match is on
    the field, not on tribunes, and the field has said Inter 1 Norwich 0
    
    Norwich were unlucky in the first half, when 3 clear goal chance were
    trown away, but Inter did well in the second, ( and the foul on
    Bergkamp was a foul ....so another penalty that the referee hadn't the
    courage to give, like the one of the first leg ) , so the score I
    think, is, again, correct : Who scores, win !
    
    Good luck for the next year, and sorry for the kick in the ass that 
    somebody want to give us, and instead, he got in his own ......
    
    So you're not saying no more : Inter who ?  I'm sure you will remember,
    and respect the Italian.
    
    
    Ciao everybody and ....	Go Inter !!
    
    
    	Sergio
    

    
    re: .302
    Too much grappa with your lunch, Sergio?
    
    Even Bergkamp admitted that it wasn't a penalty. But more to the point,
    so did the Gazzetta dello Sport - the Pravda of sports newspapers.
    Incidentally, the Italian press (world famous for its
    partizan/nationalistic outlook on life) was unanimous in giving higher
    scores to the Norwich players in their individual points ratings. The
    MOTM for all newspapers (and the RAI TV commentator) was Gary Megson.
    
    Inter? Well-organised, experienced, but highly Bergkamp-dependent. 
    As for San Siro being "La Scala del Calcio", I think this owes more to
    AC Milan than Inter. 
    
    Still, congratulations to Inter - it's goals that count, as they say.
    
    Dom

    >     As for San Siro being "La Scala del Calcio", I think this owes more to
    >     AC Milan than Inter. 
    
    ...I don't know you Dom, but I think you are very intelligent, very
    competent.
    
    Pino (Milan fan)

Saw the game live on T.V.

Norwich were excellent, and certainly did not deserve to lose. They outplayed
Inter for 90% of the match, although when Inter were in charge they looked very
dangerous. Gunn, in particular making an excellent save from Sosa (sp?) when he
was clean through.

I was disappointed with Sutton. He seemed to be having a poor day, and I'm sure
that the chance he had in the first half, he would have put away 99 times out of
100.

The 3 replacements for the suspended players had great games, and certainly
weren't the weak links everyone was expecting 2 weeks ago.

I was on the edge of my seat until Bergkamp's excellent goal, which was always
on the cards in the last � as Norwich pushed for that important goal.

On this display English football still has a future!!

Al

    
> On this display English football still has a future!!
    
    Read an article the other day which basically said the same thing. It
    talked , not only about Norwich's playing style but also the way they
    treat their fans and the how family orientated the club are. Whole
    families attend home games together and the atmosphere is supposed to
    be the least intimidating of any Premiership ground, friendly even. 
    
    Well here's to more clubs like Norwich.
    
    Peter(An Impartial Celt)

Re back a few

I certainly was there!  It was a tremendous performance from Norwich - only 
their finishing let them down.  I'll put in a full report later.

Good luck to Inter in the next round.

Jon

    
    I think Peter made a good point in .306. Norwich's attitude seems to be
    different from most other clubs. Having seen the game live, I have to
    say that their second leg performance has to be one of the best I've
    seen in a long while from a British club - and ironically they lost!

    They approached the game without Polsten (captain), Butterworth,
    Culverhouse, Crook and Robins, but the ease with which they managed to
    replace them says a lot for Mike Walker's ability to prepare his
    players mentally. Contrast this with Inter; lacking Jonk and Manicone,
    they were overrun in midfield for most of the game. People like
    Ullathorne, Woodthorpe and especially Megson were superb throughout -
    it makes you think what Norwich would be capable of if they had Inter's
    finances! Inter paid enormous sums for Dell'Anno and Shalimov, but
    Megson and Goss didn't let them string two passes together in the first
    half.

    In fact, in these troubled times, I think the one area where British
    football still leads the way is its ability to produce "complete"
    midfield players (� la Bryan Robson), who run for 90 minutes, pass
    accurately (and with vision), shoot well, and never miss a tackle.
    Megson's performance (at 34 years of age!) should be recorded on video
    and sent to all secondary schools as an example. He must have caught
    Dell'Anno in possession 9-10 times! Distribution perfect, tactical
    awareness exemplary; to think he probably earns less in a year than
    Dell'Anno in a month! The Tv commentator couldn't believe how a 34-year
    old could dictate the pace of a match from start to finish (and what a
    pace!).

    Interesting "insights:

    - Dennis Bergkamp angered Italian journalists by stating that he likes
      playing against British defenders because of their "hard-but-fair"
      approach, whereas he's encountered "enough shirt-pulling and
      eye-poking in Italy to last a lifetime"

    - Inter manager Osvaldo Bagnoli (who I consider to be extremely
      competent, fair-minded and sporting) said that he watched a video of
      Norwich's performance against Man. Utd. and noticed that they flagged
      a little in the last 20 minutes. he thought this was the key to the
      match against Inter. Probably some truth in that I suppose; all of 
      Inter' chances came in the last half hour, when Norwich were  forced to
      push 8 or 9 men forward and had problem recovering.

    - The Italian newspapers thought that Megson was the best player on the
      pitch. Also highly rated were Fox, Sutton, Goss and Newman. (I have
      to agree with Al - I thought Sutton was disappointing in front of
      goal, though excellent when holding the ball up.)
      
      The highest rated Inter players were Zenga, Bergkamp (rare flashes,
      but damned effective!) and Shalimov (excellent in the second half).

      All newspapers paid tribute to Norwich's supporters - "the most
      vociferous seen here in a long time" according to the TV commentator.

    Over to you, Jon?

    Dom

    It's great to see Norwich in the big time. I used to go and watch them
    alot when I was at college there in the last seventies when they
    supplemented their home grown players with ageing stars like Martin
    Peters, Jimmy Neighbour and Graham Paddon. They always treid to play
    good football then and they have continued to do so over the years and
    now they're getting their reward. Again, Carrow Road was always a
    friendly family oriented ground - I remember a classic occasion when
    they were playing Chelsea and I went for my pie and tea at half time in
    this little shed in the old river end run by a couple of old grannies
    to be met by this group of Chelsea skinheads being given a dressing
    down by one of grannies who was telling them that they'd have to wait
    to be served until they stopped shouting and using bad language. These
    apparent thugs couldn't believe it but they did indeed start behaving
    themselves and were duly served.
    
    All in all, it points the way to other clubs - good youth policy,
    continuation of management, sensible intelligent board who aren't
    megalamaniac psychos, encouragement of a family atmosphere and a
    committment to playing attractive football. Great club!
    
    Jamie_the_man_utd_fan

I'll still say Inter who?? The difference between the two teams over the two
legs was a �15M striker who was able to score given half a chance.

I also watched the game live on Wednesday. The two clear chances for Norwich in
the first half fell to Sutton from a lobbed pass by Bowen and Ekoku again from a
lobbed pass from Bowen. If those two chances had been converted the game could
have been over by half time. As it was, the goals didn't come and as the game
went on it became clear that Walker was going to have to throw players forward.

The two second half substitutions were Lee Power on for Spencer Prior, and 
Daryl Sutch on for Efan Ekoku. With Norwich pushing forward for the all important
goal, they were caught on the break by Inter, Bowen missing a tackle on Bergkamp
and the Dutchman finishing with much aplomb. Inter did have a second chance to
put the game beyond Norwich when Bergkamp(?) broke down the left again, but fail
to lay off the ball to an open Sosa in the box.

To Sergio, it wasn't a penalty. Bergkamp seems to have picked up the same 'damp
lettuce' dive when he gets in the box that David Platt seems to have developed
while playing in Italy. If he'd stayed on his feet he would probably would have
scored anyway. As it was he got what was deserved - nothing.

I hope Norwich manage to qualify for Europe again next season, Walker and
his players have shown they have the ability to play reasonably well against
European opposition. Sad to see them go out.

Regards a Norwich exile in the kingdom of Fife,
Kev

    
>The difference between the two teams over the two
>legs was a �15M striker who was able to score given half a chance.
    
    	Shouldn't that be "who was able to finish on average only about 
    30% of his 'one-on-one' chances". Pity help Norwich if Cole had been
    playing instead of Bergkamp!! 8-)
    
    JBG

re: -1

Do you think that Bergkamp would have missed the two chances that Norwich had
in the first half of the second leg?? Andy Cole wouldn't have and I'm damned
sure that Mark Robins probably wouldn't have. Norwich didn't take the chances
that they had and for that little problem they went out of the competition
even though over the two legs they played the better football, imo.

Jon, if you happen to visit Carrow Road at any point in the future, would you
be prepared to visit the office by the souvenir shop and try to get hold of
the address of the Norwich Exiles Supporters Club, please.

Regards
Kev

When the draw was made for the 3rd round of the UEFA Cup, and Norwich were 
drawn against Inter Milan, I said that I just had to go to the away leg at 
the San Siro.  How many times in a lifetime do you get to see your team 
play in the San Siro?  I wasn't counting on a second chance, so my brother 
and I both bought a ticket and travel package from Norwich City.

We got to Norwich airport (yes, there is such a thing) at 7.15 on Wednesday 
morning, and it was a sea of green and yellow.  The local paper said that 
today would be the most number of passengers ever through the airport in 
one day.  Norwich had chartered 6 planes for the game, and just over 2,000
supporters were making the trip (including a couple of hundred going by
coach - a 23-hour journey).

The 1 3/4 hour flight to Milan quickly passed due to the showing of the
video of Norwich progress during last season, and a reasonable cooked
breakfast (although not up to the standards of Mike McCabe's breakfast on
his way to Coventry)! 

We arrived at a foggy Malpensa airport, and soon got on a coach to take us 
to the ground.  When we first saw the ground, appearing out of the mist, it 
was amazing.  The sheer scale of it was enough to take your breath away.  
It seemed to go right up to the sky.  We posed for photographs outside the 
ground, and visited the many souvenir stalls and food stands (much better 
quality food than the usual dog-burger stands outside most English
grounds). 

We got into the ground about 70 minutes before kick-off.  The disabled 
supporters section where I went was extremely well set out.  Along the 
length of one of the sides, there was walkway infront of the seats where 
people in wheelchairs and their friends could watch the game from.  There
were also proper disabled toilets - a far cry from most English grounds! 
One of the most striking thing about the stadium was how near the stands
are to the pitch.  There is no running track outside the pitch - the only
thing between the pitch and the front row was a 8 feet wide moat.  We were
about level with the penalty spot, with an uninterrupted view of the pitch.
The rest of the Norwich supporters were just to out right, in the corner of
the stadium. 

There was a party atmosphere in the Norwich section of the crowd - we sung 
all the usual Norwich songs, as well as some others such as "Alan Hansen is 
a w*****", and "There's only one Mr. Blobby".  The ground was less than 
half full (the official attendance was 30,000), but the atmosphere was 
special.  The top tier of the stands, especially behind the other goal, was 
full of Inter supporters.  Their huge flags and flares were an impressuve 
sight.

Both teams came out to a noisy ovation.  The good news for us was that 
Ekoku was in the starting line-up.  It was an inexperienced line-up for 
Norwich.  The team was: Gunn, Woodthorpe, Bowen, Megson, Prior, Newman, 
Ekoku, Ullathorne, Sutton, Goss, Fox.  The subs were: Howie, Sutch, Smith, 
Power and Cureton (who I'd never heard of - apparently he'd played for the 
youth team the night before).  Butterworth, Crook and Culverhouse were all 
suspended, and Polston, Robins and Eadie were all injured.

Norwich started very well, having most of the possession and  creating a 
few chances.  Rob Ullathorne had the first chance, on the far post, but 
Zenga just got to the ball before him.  Sutton and Ekoku both had good 
chances on the right after balls behind the defence by Bowen.  Sutton 
pulled his shot wide, and Ekoku just lobbed the ball over the bar.  There 
were also a couple of goal-mouth scrambles where it just needed a Norwich 
boot to hook it towards the goal.

Although Norwich were creating the chances, their finishing was poor.  
Also, the standard of crossing, especially from Newman and Ullathorne was 
poor.  Most crosses were easy for Zenga to catch.  Sutton was winning a lot 
in the air, and Ekoku's pace was unsettling the Inter defenders.  As 
mentioned earlier, Megson was dominating midfield, winning tackle after 
tackle, although his final pass was sometimes poor.

Inter were rather poor in the first half, not creating many chances.  They 
almost took the lead after a gift from Bowen.  He was the last man, on the 
edge of his penalty area, and he let Ruben Sosa get a foot to the ball, 
and the shot went literally 6 inches beyond the far post.  We were mightily 
relieved to see it go past the post!

The second half started where the first half left off - Norwich do most of 
the pressing.  However, Norwich were tiring a bit in midfield, allowing 
Inter back into the game.  Norwich were still playing a mixture of their 
passing game, and long balls up to Sutton and Ekoku.

Inter were looking dangerous on the counter-attack.  Ruben Sosa was put 
through, but Gunn stood up to him well and saved with his feet.  Gunn also 
made a good save from a 1-on-1 situation Dell'Anno 

Dennis Bergkamp had a quiet game, but was involved in two of the game's 
main incidents.  He had broken clear, and only had Gunn to beat.  He pushed 
the ball wide of Gunn, and Gunn made a dive to try to save the ball.  
However, he wasn't quick enough, and inevitably went across Bergkamp's 
path.  
Bergkamp jumped over Gunn, but then fell over theatrically, having seen 
that he had pushed the ball too far wide.  There is no way that Gunn 
deliberately pulled him down.  To our relief, the referee agreed with my 
version of events and gave a goal kick.

The longer the game went on, the more players Norwich threw forward.  
Spencer Prior, a defender, was taken off and Lee Power, a forward, replaced 
him.  Also, Efan Ekoku was substituted with 10 minutes to go.  He was 
clearly suffering after being out for 8 weeks.  His speed had been 
impressive, but his touch and crossing was a bit rusty.  Daryl Sutch 
replaced him.  Norwich forced some corners, but were unable to make them 
count.

One thing which was clear from watching the game live was how the Inter 
defenders will use any means to stop the forwards.  On one occasion, Sutton 
was blatantly taken out by a body-check off the ball.  If he had had a
clear run, he would have been in a very dangerous position.  Also, the
defenders are masters at nudging and holding attackers.  It is mostly very
well disguised so as not to conceed a free-kick or penalty.  I'm not saying
that Inter are any worse in this respect than any other teams - it's just
disappointing to see this type of "sportsmanship" from such gifted players. 

With Norwich desparate to score an equaliser, it was inevitable that there 
would be gaps at the back.  With two minutes to go, a long free-kick was 
intercepted by Sosa, who put Bergkamp clear.  He got to the edge of the 
penalty area, and decided that he would shoot rather than try to take it 
round Gunn.  It proved to be the right decision, as he placed it precisely 
inside the far post.

A couple of minutes later, the final whistle went.  Norwich got a great 
ovation from the whole crowd.  Everyone was expecting them just to roll 
over and give up, but they dominated the game, and played some excellent 
football.  However, as Sergio said, it goals which matter, and over the two 
legs, Inter (or should that just be Bergkamp) were the better finishers.  

The Norwich fans were disappointed with the result, but were extremely 
proud of the way that Norwich played.  Unlike England, they had gone out in 
style!  For a team missing 4 regulars, and including two players 
(Woodthorpe and Ullathorne) who had made one first team appearance between 
them this season, to lose 1-0 to a team costing �40 million was a 
magnificent achievement.

We were kept in the ground for about half an hour after the game.  We were 
singing "Mike Walker's green and yellow army" the whole time.  It was very 
moving.  Some Inter fans came over towards the Norwich section, and my
first reaction was "Oh no, there's going to be some trouble".  But I
couldn't have been more wrong! They had come to swap scarves and hats etc.
with us. They were all extremely friendly.  The Milanese stewards came over
to our section, and applauded us.  We had certainly made an impression on
the Italians, and for once for English football it was a good impression.
Outside the ground, the rows of riot police were redundant.  Seeing how
they were kitted out, I'm very pleased that they did not get any action!! 

The flight home was memorable only for the landing.  Anyone in England on 
Wednesday night will know how windy it was.  We had a strong, gusting cross 
wind as we came into land, and the 'plane was lurching all over the place. 
As soon as the wheels hit the tarmac, a spontanious round of applause broke 
out.  The captain later said that he was as glad as we were to touch down 
safely!

The highlights on Sportsnight did not do justice to how well Norwich 
played, but at least Alan Hansen was full of praise for Norwich.

After having experienced European football, we're all hooked and want to 
qualify again next season.  In yesterday's paper, an Inter "back-room boy"
said that Norwich were one of the best teams to play Inter in ten years,
including the likes of Real Madrid.  Praise indeed! 

Jon

re 312,

Hi Kevin,

I'm not sure when I'll next be going to Carrow Road.  If you want, I'll 
post the 'phone numbers of the club next week (can't do it now - I've got 
the numbers at home).

Back to the real world, Norwich got a good draw, 2-2, at Old Trafford last 
weekend.  The radio commentators said it was one of the best Premiership 
games of the season.  Sutton and a Fox penalty were our scorers.  Our next 
game is next Monday, at home to Leeds, live on Sky.

In the FA Cup, we've been drawn away to Wycombe.  As it's just down the 
road from here, I'll try to get along to it.  Does anyone know if it will 
be on Saturday 8th, or if it has been moved for live TV coverage?  Also, 
anyone got Wycombe's 'phone number?

Jon

Norwich 2
Leeds 1

A slightly lucky win for Norwich.  Leeds had more of the possession, but 
were unable to turn their chances into goals.  Norwich went ahead just 
before half-time, Sutton curling a shot in-off the far post.  Rod Wallace 
equalised for Leeds with 20 minutes to go, but Ekoku got the winner nine 
minutes before the end.  He was put clear by Sutton, and his first shot was 
blocked by Beeney, but he scored from the rebound.

There are some worrying rumours that Mike Walker is favourite for the job 
at Everton.  This would be bad news for us if he does go.  He's only been 
our manager for a season and a half, so I hope that he stays on and tries 
to get UEFA Cup qualification again next year.

Jon

What about Mike Walker for England?

Si.....

Ipswich 2
Norwich 1

This makes it even for this season with our local rivals Ipswich.  They 
went ahead early on when Butterworth pulled down Kiwomya, and John Wark 
scored from the resulting penalty.  Norwich equalised just before 
half-time, Bowen shooting just inside the post from 20 yards.

Norwich had more chances in the second half, but it looked as though it 
would be a draw, until an Ipswich corner in the last minute.  Gary Megson 
made a great run and sent a bullet header into the top corner.  
Unfortunately it was into the Norwich goal!  

Just before the goal, Lee Power had been sent off for a late tackle.  This 
seemed rather harsh, and showed up referees inconsistencies this season.  
There were worse challenges in other games on MotD on Saturday (esp. Jon 
Newsome's on Limpar) which only resulted in yellow cards, or just a talking 
to.  Also, why wasn't Butterworth sent off for his foul on Kiwomya?  
Kiwomya was through on goal, with only the 'keeper to beat.  Doesn't the 
rule say that this should result in a red card?

Jon

    Jon,
    
    do you know when the Norwich vs Blackburn game has been rearranged for?
                                                                            
    Cheers,
    
    Andy

Andy,

As far as I am aware, no date has been fixed yet.  We have also got to 
re-arrange the game against Liverpool.

Jon

Mark Robins has aggravated his knee injury while training for his comeback. 
He will have another operation, so it will be a while before he is back in 
the team.

Jon

    
    What kind of knee injury was it? 
    
    Tony
    
    

Six points out of nine over the Christmas/New Year period, but we may be 
about to suffer our biggest loss of the season - Mike Walker is rumoured to 
be on his way to Everton.  

Spurs 1
Norwich 3

This was our first Boxing Day win for five years.  The reports said we 
played some great football in the first half, going 2-0 up.  Sutton (who 
had just signed a new 3.5 year contract) scored the first goal after a 
flowing move.  Ekoku got the second with a near-post shot.  Barmby pulled 
one back for Spurs, but Sutton wrapped it up just before the end, after 
Ekoku had broken clear.

Norwich 1
Aston Villa 2

Typical!  I chose this game as my first League match of the season, and we 
lost.  It was a highly entertaining game, with plenty of goalmouth 
incident, and some great saves from both 'keepers.  Norwich created most of 
the chances, and took the lead when Sutton intercepted a Teale back-pass, 
took it round Bosnich and slid in under him.  In the second half, 
Culverhouse was guilty of a similar bad back-pass, letting Houghton in to 
equalise.  A couple of minutes later, Saunders hit a great goal from about 
20 yards, giving Gunn no chance.  After this, it was virtually all Norwich, 
but we were unable to score.  Bosnich was in superb form.

Southampton 0
Norwich 1

Our second away win of the holiday season, thanks again to Sutton.  He 
scored just before half-time, with a bullet-like shot from outside the 
penalty area.  Southampton had Benali sent off in the second half for 
elbowing Fox.

We play Newcastle tonight, at Carrow Road.  Then on Saturday, it's away to 
Wycombe in the FA Cup.  Put your money on the 3rd division team - I have 
got a ticket for this match, so Norwich are bound to lose.

Jon

    Jon,
    
    any news on a rearranged date for the Liverpool game?
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks

Nope, in the paper on Sunday, the dates for the Norwich v Liverpool and 
Norwich v Blackburn games are both listed as tba (to be announced).

Jon

Norwich 1
Newcastle 2

Yet again we've lost at home.  For the second consecutive home game, we've 
gone 1-0 up, only to concede 2 goals later in the game.  According to the 
report in the paper, it was a good game, with Newcastle playing 
particularly well.  Norwich took the lead in the 4th minute - Bowen 
volleying in Fox's cross.  Beardsley equalised after 20 minutes.  Both 
teams had chances to win it in the second half, but Cole got the winner 
with 10 minutes left.

Norwich chairman, Robert Chase, has denied Everton permission to approach 
Mike Walker, and is threating legal action if he is approached.  Under 
Premier League rules, clubs cannot approach another manager while under 
contract.  Chase has offered Walker more money this season - I've heard 
figures from a 40% rise to a 100% rise.  If he does go, his assistant John 
Deehan would probably take over for a while, but has said that he does not 
want the job permanently.

Jon

    
    Jon,
    
    I know I'm 'slightly biased', but isn't Chase being a bit of a pratt
    over Walker ?    
    
    It's a fact of life in football that if Walker wants to leave Norwich
    to go to Everton he just has to resign - and sod all these injunctions 
    that Chase is threatening. I think he's doing a good
    job of forcing Walker out by denying him the chance to speak to Everton 
    and therefore treating him like a five year old. 
    
    Judging by what Walker was saying yesterday about his treatment at
    Colchester - he was sacked when they were top of the league and has a 
    very cynical view of 'loyalty', I think he will be at Everton by the 
    end of the week.
     
    Paul                                                 

Paul,

I can understand Chase wanting to keep Walker at Norwich, as he has been so 
successful.  But if Walker wants to go, then I don't think that Chase 
should stop him.  

Walker has said that he is ambitious, so if he doesn't go to Everton, then 
the next time a job at a "big" club becomes available (Liverpool perhaps?), 
he will be one the targets, and we'll have the same arguments all over 
again.  Walker will be taking a risk by going to Everton - the boardroom 
situation is still volatile, and the pressure to get results quickly will 
be intense.  After all, Walker has only been a Premier League manager for 
17 months.  Having said this, it seems the sort of challenge that he 
relishes, and I would not be at all surprised if he does go to Everton.

Jon

I've had a couple of guys in the office commenting on Walker going to Everton
this morning. Does anyone have any more concrete facts on the matter??

Apparently an interview was shown on breakfast TV - the tone of Walkers comments
indicating that he was prepared to go. If he does go let's hope they can find
someone with the same thoughts on playing style. Maybe Martin O'Neill would want
the job.

Regards
Kevin

    
    I haven't heard anything yet - Everton approached Norwich yesterday and
    officially requested to speak to Walker, Norwich turned them down and
    threatened legal action if they spoke to him indirectly. Walker is
    extremely p*ssed off about Norwich's attitude and wants to speak to
    Everton just to see what's on offer.
        
    Paul

    re .328
    
    > someone with the same thoughts on playing style. Maybe Martin O'Neill 
    > would want the job.
    
    Don't forget that he has already turned down the offer of joining
    Forest. He's doing really well at Wycombe (4th in the Third) so I doubt
    that he'd want to make a move now.
    
    I personally think that Walker would be a mug to join Everton with the
    Board as it is and a squad of overpaid players.
    
    Paul.
    
    
    

Walker apparently commented that to earn the �400,000 pay that some papers were
quoted as saying he could get, Norwich would have to win the League, FA Cup, Grand
National and so on.

Perhaps by the end of the week there will be a clearer picture of the situation.
My personal feeling is that Walker will resign. The seeds of discontent have
already been sown by the Norwich chairman. I think the chairmans quote was
something along the lines of "if Walker leaves then it won't have been my fault.
I've done all I can for him."

Regards
Kev

    
    Just heard on the radio that walker has quit Norwich and is expected
    to join Everton..
    
    Andy..B

Sad news for Norwich. Presumably he feels he's done all he can there, and 
needs a really big challenge?!

Still, I wouldn't write off your chances of making Europe again - as long as 
Walker doesn't take al the staff with him.

g

This is bad news, but not unexpected.  Walker is only on one-year 
contracts at Norwich, so I'm sure he's off to Everton for security (or as 
secure as a football manager can ever be), and for a bigger challenge.  Of 
course, the pay rise helps as well.

Walker has only been the Norwich manager for 17 months, but he has brought 
much success to the team.  We achieved our best ever League position last 
season (third), and played in Europe for the first time.  The style of play 
under his management has been admired across Europe.  Going to a bigger 
club, Everton, will give him chance to extend his reputation.

Well, who's going to take over?  His assistant, Deehan, has said that he 
doesn't want the job.  I'm not sure who else at the club would be capable 
of taking over, so perhaps Norwich will look outside the club.  Maybe Bobby 
Robson fancies a return to East Anglia?  I would not complain if he did - 
he had much success with limited resources at Ipswich.

Jon

    Actually I can see Bobby Robson taking over at Norwich, and it may not
    be a bad thing for both himself and the club. Even if Walker had
    stayed, he would never have had the trust of the players and fans that
    he had before. Still, I have a feeling walker will be in charge of a
    division 1 team next year (called Everton.)
    
    Rich.

    
    
    Graham Taylor has been named new Norwich manager.
    
    His first action was to buy John Barnes.
    
    
    Gazzer

    
    Mark McGhee maybe??
    
    Tony
    
    

This could have happened next week. I only hope the players rally round John
Deehan and play well against Wymcombe on Saturday.

They had Gunn talking in an interview on Radio 5 last night which intimated
that the players were trying to persuade Walker to stay. Obviously it didn't
make any difference. I think Chase had already done the damage by stopping
Everton from talking to him.

Let's hope they keep hold of the players and find a manager with equal talents.
Bobby Robson wouldn't be that outrageous a choice.

/Kev

    
    Does nobody read previous replies here, or was Gary just waffling about
    Graham Taylor. 

    re .336
    
    I heard that Barnes injured himself signing the contract....
    
    writers cramp or something %*)

My wife informs me that the news report on the Walker "quit" stated that Norwich
were going to lodge a complaint to the FA about Walker being poached. This
sounds a little like sour grapes to me, Chase had already done the damage by not
letting Everton talk to Walker.

/Kev

    
    It could be worth a few ���� in compensation to the club. Chase and
    Walker might have even split on good terms.
    
    Tony
    
    

Wycombe 0
Norwich 2

Two more goals from Chris Sutton were enough to beat Wycombe in the FA 
Cup.  Not even my presence at Adams Park could put Norwich off!  It wasn't 
one of Norwich's best performances, with Wycombe probably having more 
posession, but Norwich defended well and attacked quickly on the break.  
The first goal came 5 minutes before half-time.  Fox broke down the right, 
pulled the ball back to Ekoku, who crossed into the middle where Sutton 
headed in from six yards.  Wycombe had a great chance in the second half, 
but Gunn made a good save low to his left.  With Wycombe desparately trying 
to get an equaliser, Sutton scored a second just before the end, 
side-footing the ball into the corner of the net, after a pass from Fox.

Our 'reward' for beating Wycombe is a home tie against Manchester United in 
the 4th round.  Unlike most other teams, I was hoping for an away draw, as 
our home form this season has been very poor.

Most the Norwich fans seemed to be blaming the chairman, Robert Chase, for 
Mike Walker's departure.  I have to agree with this - if Chase had offered 
Walker a three-year contract at the start of the season, or even after we 
were knocked out of the UEFA Cup, then he would still be with us.  After 
his experience at Colchester (being sacked the day he was named manager of 
the month!), it is easy to see why Walker was so unhappy with his one-year 
contract.

Although I read last week that John Deehan wasn't interested in the 
manager's job, he has now said that he wants the job.  He is the obvious 
choice - he and Walker have worked together in the last 18 months, so he 
knows the team as well as anyone.  It is reported in the paper this morning 
that Terry Yorath is also interested, and he will have talks with Chase 
this week.  I don't think that Norwich need to look outside the club - 
Deehan would be a popular choice, both with the players and fans.

Jon

    It was interesting to note that quite a few people (players, managers,
    press etc) said that John Deehan was the coach who got Norwich to play
    like they do. SO if he becomes the new manager, as expected, the
    continuity will be there.
    
    If it does all fall apart then I feel sorry for players like Sutton who
    just signed a long term(3 years?) contract to be at Norwich with Mike
    Walker!
    
    But United will still beat you!

    Having just returned from Norwich the info I was getting from inside
    the club was that Chase didn't ming letting Walker go at all. Walker
    was apparently trying to exert his influence at board level in the club
    to improve wage structures etc and this was getting up several peoples
    noses. Although the club has a low basic salary it is the highest bonus
    payers in the league (e.g Sutton on 500 a goal). Walker was wanting to
    change this and the Board and Chase was not going to let him. Hence the
    departure, plus chase will probably get compensation. I have some
    sympathy to Chase's way of things - paying for performace is much
    better for a smaller club with limited resources then paying
    exhorbitant basic wages for some superstar whi might spend x months out
    injured - but that is just one of the arguments.
    
    Either way, the overall structure at Norwich is not likely to change,
    Deehan will amost for sure take over with Megson coaching which is
    basically as it has been for a while now! The only bad cloud on the
    horizon is how some of the players react (Fox being just one example of
    a player effectively putting himself up for sale).  Hopefully City will
    appoint quickly and we can get back to business as usual and qualify
    for Europe again. All that remains is for us to stuff Man U in the cup
    (fingers crossed) and to continue winning.
    
    One issue which has arisen out of this whole episode is Why was Walker
    sacked from Colchester?? The real truth of that has never come to
    light- perhaps similar reasons to those behing his Norwich departure??
    
    Paul

My wife has just phoned to inform me that the Deehan-Megson management team
has been confirmed by Norwich. Deehan was quoted on Ceefax last night as saying
that he saw no reason to change the style of play at Norwich. I'm glad he
believes in some semblance of continuity. The only thing he has to do now is
persuade any doubting players that they should stay with the club.

The report also commented on the official complaint lodged by Norwich to the FA
over the Walker situation. Everton have been asked to explain their conduct.

Interesting to hear two City fans blaming Chase for the loss of Walker on "606"
on Saturday night on Radio 5. These fans also complained about Chases' reluctance
to allow cash to be used for acquiring big name talent or for retaining the
players they had : Andy Townsend, Steve Bruce, Mike Phelan, Andy Linighan, Chris
Woods and so on.

Regards
Kevin

It's good to hear that Deehan and Megson will be taking over.  I'm sure 
that they will continue with the style of play which was so successful 
under Walker.

Jon

    Funny old fans at Norwich! Chase et al sell mediochre players like
    phelan, townsend etc for big bucks with these guys having made their
    names at Norwich. The money is well spent on getting them some of the
    best facilities and stands in the country, then without them they have
    their best finish ever, play some terrific football, make friends all
    around Europe and STILL they COMPLAIN.
    
    Originally I was well against Chase, but in hindsight I think he has
    done a great deal for the club without getting them into debt and
    there's not many clubs who can say that in this day and age!
    Some of the fans just do not think!!
    
    Best wishes for Dixie and Meggers! The club should be able to go from
    strength to strength - after all it was Dixie who has been doing the
    coaching for the last 18 months!!
    Just hang on to them players!!
    
    Paul

Re arranged game with Liverpool is on Saturday Feb 5th,

Chris.

re last

Er, anyone know why there wasn't any games scheduled for this day?  (It's 
not for the FA Cup, because that's the week before.)

Jon

    Jon,
    
    probably some warm-up game for England in the World Cup? (:==:)
    ah well i'll get a chance to remind you about Liverpool's glorious
    victory the next day now.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
    

The FA Cup game against Manchester United has been put back to the Sunday, 
so that it can be televised live by the BBC.

Jon

    What are Sky showing in the next round???
    
    
    /Gary

re:.348

Weren't Townsend and Phelan sold the year after Norwich reached the semi-final of
the FA Cup and finished 4th/5th in the League.

The fans may have reason to be fickle when a couple of years of moderate success
gets turned into a couple of years of mediocrity because they sold some of their
best players. Someone with a Rothmans confirm what happened to Norwich in
the year after Townsend left.

As a fan Paul, what would you want to happen at the end of this season?? Keep
hold of the current crop of players and buy in a further couple of players to
bolster the squad or have Chase force Deehans hand to sell some players in order to
keep the books in the black??

The guy on "606" did make the valid point that the purchased success of Ipswich under
Robson (Muhren and Thyssen) and Forest under Clough was followed by a few seasons
of anonymity. Chase has slowly built up the support environment for success at Norwich
with the slow rebuilding of the stands and so on. Remember Norwich have the lowest
basic salary structure in the Premier League.

I really hope Norwich continue to do well under Deehan and Megson. They've had their
taste of Europe, cross fingers they can do enough to taste it again next year.

Regards
Kevin

Norwich 1
Chelsea 1

Yet more home points dropped, and we had enough chances to win it. Chelsea 
went ahead in the first half, Stein scoring after Burley's shot was 
deflected.  Ekoku equalised after about an hour - Crook floated a free-kick 
into the penalty area, Sutton headed it back across goal for Ekoku to head 
in.  Ekoku also scored later on, but it was ruled out for offside. It seems 
that Deehan abandoned the sweeper system, in favour of a flat back four. I 
do not know whether this is just for home games, or whether he will still 
play with a sweeper away from home.

The local Norwich paper last week reported that Manchester United have 
tried to get the FA Cup game played on a neutral venue, because Norwich 
cannot accomodate all the Man. United fans (there are FA regulations that 
for Cup games, a certain percentage (25%, I think) of the ground must be 
made available for away supporters).  It is a police decision, because they 
would not be able to segregate the fans properly.  The FA have said tough, 
the game will go ahead at Norwich.  Apparently, only one Premiership ground 
can accomodate the required percentage of away fans - Manchester City. 

Jon

    What more do Man U want ? Firstly every ref seems to give them the
    benefit of the doubt, and now they want away games to be an away
    fixture for both clubs. Tough luck I say, and come on you canaries. 
    
    Rich.
    
    P.S. you lot haven't got a good striker you cpuld let Spurs have on the
    cheap have you ?  

    re: 354
    
    Townsend went before last season (as did Fleck) and Phelan went before
    that.  I'd like to see us keep all the players we have and buy in a
    couple of more good ones (particularly a centre half) - but who knows.
    Sometimes, as has happened before at Norwich, the players make the
    decision to move to a bigger club without the chairman or manager
    forcing them (e.g. Rosario, Dale Gordon) because they think they are
    better than they are.  Personally I'd be surprised if Ruel Fox is with
    us next year and for sure there will be a lot of pressure to keep
    players like Chris Sutton out of the hands of the bigger fish.
    
    Bought in success can work, but Norwich has never been a club to do
    that although all the indications are that Chase is prepared to spend
    for the right player(s) I think you can honestly say that City have not
    suffered thru selling players and poeple like Sutton who have come up
    from the youth team are real diamonds. It would be nice to continue the
    success and think it can be maintained - but we might need to spend in
    order to actually win something!
    
    First we have to overcome United!!
    
    Paul

Just out of interest can anyone remember what players have been sold and bought
by Norwich in the last couple of seasons when the team have begun to clamber from
mediocrity??

Sold
----
Andy Linighan
Dave Watson
Steve Bruce (thug anyway)
Andy Townsend
Mike Phelan
David Philips
Robert Fleck
Darren Beckford (no loss)
Dale Gordon
Robert Rosario

Bought
------
Mark Robins
Efan Ekoku
Spencer Prior
Rob Newman
Gary Megson

Can anyone think of anyone else??

Regards
Kev

    
    Tim Sherwood to Blackburn, season before last. At �500,000 he looked
    totally lost in the battle (fight, scramble, panic) for promotion in 
    which Rovers were embroiled when he joined. Now he is the architect 
    of some excellent passing football and considered very good value.
    
    Was an U-18 and U-21 england international, currently team captain and 
    still only 24.
    
    Thanks,  
    
    Andy
    

Kev, 

A few more who were sold, although a few years ago:

Chris Woods
Malcolm Allen
Trevor Putney
Kevin Drinkell

Also, you can also include Beckford in the bought category as well!

Jon

RE: Ticket Allocation, the away team at United usually

doesn't get too many tickets to say there are 45,000
people there!!  Big team now you see they are
entitled to their own rules!! 8*)  8*)

Chris

    RE: -1
    
    I think you're missing the point - for FA Cup ties, the away team is
    entitled to a certain percentage of the tickets (25% ?).  It is the
    responsibility of the home team to provide adequate segregation for
    this number of fans.  If the home team cannot do so then the away team
    will, in this case, receive fewer tickets.  Is this fair ?  I admit
    that asking for a game to be switched to a neutral venue is a bit
    extreme, however it perhaps raises a point that consideration is not
    being given to crowd segregation with the re-design/rebuilding of many
    grounds.

    re - sold and Bought
    
    To go back even further:
    
    Fashanu (both of the lumps)
    Kevin Reeves (over a million to Man City - mediochre all the time)
    Graham Paddon  - to W.Ham
    
    I blame it all on John Bond really!
    
    Fleck would also have to go on the bought list as well as the sold one!
    
    There must be more of them too - sold for lots of bunce to build our
    nice new ground! Can't be bad - I don't think one of them has gone on
    to reach the heights either
    
    

    re ; -1
    
    Then thank god they didn't get Luton!!

    Hey Paul:
    - What was the score at West Ham last nite?
    - Are you still behind Sheff Wed?
    - Is Arthur Clarke still in Stuttgart?

West Ham 3
Norwich 3

It sounds like I missed a thoroughly entertaining game last night (I 
stayed in to watch the Taylor programme on Channel Four)!  Norwich took the 
lead after 5 minutes, Miklosko letting in a weak shot from Sutton. After 
this, West Ham had most possession, and Martin Allen equalised in the 37th 
minute from a free-kick.  20 seconds after half-time, West Ham took the 
lead through Jones.  Norwich fought back, and goals from Sutton (header) 
and Fox (volley) gave us the lead again.  But an inspired substitution by 
Bonds saw Morley get an equaliser with 6 minutes to go.

Jeremy Goss was back in the team, with Ekoku only on the bench.  Fox played 
up front with Sutton.  John Deehan was not happy with the defence - it 
certainly needs to be tightened up before Sunday's game against the Mancs.

Seeing Phil Neal copying everything Taylor did in last night's programme, 
made me realise how lucky we were not to have him as the Norwich manager.  
He was all lined up to take over when Stringer left, but would not move to 
Norfolk for the first year.  Chase said this showed a lack of commitment, 
so appointed Walker instead.  

Jon

    I watched the game on Sky and it was indeed thoroughly entertaining.
    I thought both midfields played well, but Norwich looked much more
    dangerous up front. The defense was a bit missing from time to time.
    After scoring early Norwich sat back and let WHam play and played on
    the break. The hammers didn't relly look like scoring and it was only a
    deflections and slip by Gunny that hepled them equalize. As soon as the
    hammers got ahead it appeared that Norwich stepped up a gear and it
    came as no surprise when we got infront again. It was only poor
    defending that enabled them to equalize. We will have to be much
    tighter against utd on Sunday - but I wouldn't rule us out it!
    
    I;m glad we didn't get Phil neal as a manager, I  never thought he was
    any good as a defender.
    
    Paul

Norwich 0
Man United 2

Apart from a spell of about 15 minutes in the second half, we simply didn't 
play.  The tactic of having a sweeper meant that Sutton was our only 
forward - although Fox was meant to be his partner, but he was not in the 
game for long periods.

United's first goal came on the break, with Giggs running about 40/50 
yards, before crossing to Kanchelskis. He laid it off to Keane who beat 
Gunn with a low shot.

Norwich had some pressure in the second half, and almost got an equaliser. 
Goss had a shot which was parried straight to Polston.  He hit it right at 
Schmeical, and then from the rebound Polston blazed wide when it looked 
easier to score!  This was our only good chance in the match.

United's second came from an awful pass by Newman which was intercepted by 
Cantona, who beat Gunn as he was rushing out of his goal.

Again we saw some refereeing which favoured a 'big' club.  In the first 
half Cantona took out Goss with a knee-high tackle, for which he only got a 
yellow card.  Later, he kicked at Polston as he lay on the floor, but the 
ref apparently did not see it.  This the second time that Cantona has got 
away with dreadful "tackles" against Norwich - remember him kicking out at 
Culverhouse at Old Trafford earlier this season?

According to Barry Davies, this now takes our record at home to just 1 win 
in 10 games.  This is dreadful, and would definitely be relegation material 
if it wasn't for the fact that our away record is so good.  Something has 
to be done - Deehan should only play the sweeper system away from home, and 
play Sutton and Ekoku as front men, with Fox on the wing.

Jon

    
    	After reading about the further speculation of Fox's future in the
    papers (Newcastle leading the chasing pack), a debate has started in
    our place on how old Ruel is. So, anyone out there know what age he is?
    
    	Cheers,
    	     John A.
    

    I the highlights on the french goggle on Sunday evening and was
    disappointed. The goals were a bit of a giveaway,the first looked
    offside and the second..well!
    I'm not keen on playing foxy up the middle with Sutton, Fox is best
    utilised wide in the midfield, playing him up the middle puts too much
    onus on Sutton as a target man and I don't think we should be using
    hinm like that either. With Both Ekoku and Sutton playing we have more
    options. I would prefer them to play those two and if that wasn't
    working well switch to the other way around with Fox.
    Really don't know what the answer is on the not winning at home
    problem.  It;s not just not winning, but they don't score either.
    Having seen the way they applied themselves at West ham when they went
    2-1 down and stepped up a gear, I would have thought they should find
    level at home and simply decimate teams! We have to be much more
    "killer" like at home and really knocking sides apart with a barage of
    good attacking football. I think we seem to sit off too much at home
    instead of going out and killing games. I'm sure we can do it, but they
    had better do it soon, otherwise Europe next year will be a dream!
    
    Glad we didn't get Wimbledon though!
    Paul
    
    Whawas the score last night??

I'll post this note in here to see if we get any comment back from anyone.

Why is that a player of Cantonas obvious class has to resort to such animal
activities??

Sadly, I was unable to see the first half coverage of the Norwich v. Man U.
game up here in Scotland, so I can't comment on the tackle by Cantona on Goss
in the first half. My father said it was a sending off offence. However,
I did see his attempted kick in the head of Polston in the second half. Does he
really need to do this?? He got away with the kick out at Culverhouse at Old
Trafford when Norwich drew there.

Regards
Kevin

    .572
    
    same here, missed the first tackle, but EVERYONE agrees that he should
    have gone for dangerous plays. I think that things like this must be put 
    down to the poor standard of refereeing. I think the ref on Sunday
    hadn't got the bottle to send him off. And as for Ferguson slagging
    Jimmy Hill and the BBC off, well you could start a whole new note on
    that subject. Just one more statement for Mr. Ferguson....
    Does the word 'paranoid' mean anything to you?...

He definitely should have gone at some point in the match, as he tried another
of those flicks in the 1st half, before the Goss tackle. It's a shame that such
a talented player has to resort to such tactics, and being frustrated because
you cannot get into the game is no excuse.

Al

    
    Whats the problem, no one was hurt this type of thing goes on every 
    Saturday/Sunday, would the game be better off without these type
    of incidents, I don't think so. If he wanted to hurt Goss he would of
    done. The tackle looked a lot worse than it really was...Fair play to
    Goss if that tackle had happened anywhere else in the world the player
    would have been needed treatment for hours and Cantona would have been
    sent off...I guess thats one of the reason why the English game is so
    respected all over the world...
    
    Neil....

    Maybe the tackle on Goss did look worse than it was - but the kick at
    Polston didn't. It was deliberate, calculated and unforgiveable. THAT
    was what Hill was really going on about. Yes, Cantona is skillful and a
    class act, but on Sunday I saw a football thug in the V Jones class.
    
    Paul

    
    > Jimmy Hill is a Prat!!!
    
    Apparently not. Teletext have just taken a poll so see if people agreed
    with Hill's/BBCs comments or took Ferguson's side of the argument. Hill
    won. Quite surprising that the most despised man in at least half of
    Britain can come out on top in a poll, when faced with the nation's 
    favourite team.
    
    Tim

    re -1
    
    >Whats the problem, no one was hurt this type of thing goes on every
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
    
    Just because he failed to hurt someone this time doesn't make it OK. He
    was trying to either hurt him or he was trying to intimidate him (and
    the other Norwich players, supporters etc). Either way he should have
    gone.
    
    >Saturday/Sunday, would the game be better off without these type
    >of incidents, 
    
    Errrm, yes.
     
    
    paul.
    

    
    
    re .377
    
     > Jimmy Hill is a Prat!!!
    
     Maybe Hill won the poll in England, but up here in Scotland he was
    probably the most hated Englishman. Chants of "Jimmy Hills a p**f"
    were commonplace at international matches for many years. I don't
    remember any sepcific incident that lead to these songs, probably
    a combination of many silly statments he made against the Scots, ie
    David Narey scoring from 20 yards against Brazil in the '82 world
    finals, Hill described it as a toe-poke. What a prat!!!! :-) :-)
    
     Danny. 

    <<I guess thats one of the reason why the English game is so
      respected all over the world...>>
    
      Aye, good one Neil 8*)
    
      As far as the Cantona tackles are concerned, they were disgusting.
      I think the Frenchman is a tremendous player with special abilities,
      but he should have been off the park for the first challenge !! 
    
      Any man who DELIBRATELY tries to hack down a player with a flying
      side kick, with no intention of going for the ball, should
      immediately be shown the red card. English referees are even worse
      than the Scottish........and that's saying something !
      If it had been another player in another team, that same referee who
      bottled it, would have probably dished out the red card straight away
    
      P.S     BTW, Apart from Celtic, I'm a fan of Man U's.
    

    
>      Any man who DELIBRATELY tries to hack down a player with a flying
>      side kick, with no intention of going for the ball, should
>      immediately be shown the red card.
	Sorry, I didn't see any of what is talked about, I just remember
	one terrible challenge going unnoticed in an FA cup final where
	Gazza jumped into someone's throat... Did Cantona's first tackle
	look worse-same-less violent????

	As for kicking someone lying on the ground, there should be NO
	excuses...

								.Andre.

    
    He jumped about 12" off the ground & lunged into the player with a two
    footed tackle. His studs looked to me to catch the back of the calf.
    He didn't connect properly though, as the Norwich player managed to
    walk away from it 8*)
    
    

    RE: .376
    
>    was what Hill was really going on about. Yes, Cantona is skillful and a
>    class act, but on Sunday I saw a football thug in the V Jones class.
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Bulls**t !!!
    
    
    Vinnie Jones would never have missed Polston's head with a backheel like 
    that !!!  ;-)
    
    
    Jerry.
    

    i think everyone agrees that Cantona is a louser and should be hung,
    drawn and quartered for his crimes. End of story....but did anyone else
    hear that song that the ManU fans were singing. Congrats to them for
    writng the worst footballing song in living memory....
    
    I didn't hear it all it went something like this
    (to the tune of 'The 12 days of Christmas)
    On the twelfth day of christmas, my true love sent me
    12 cantonas
    11 cantonas
    10 cantonas
    9 cantonas
    8 cantonas
    7 cantonas
    6 cantonas
    5 CANTONA'S
    4 cantonas
    3 cantonas
    2 cantonas
    and an Eric Cantona
    
    that must rank alongside the famous chant of the 70's and 80's
    "You're gonna get your #&@#!^%$ head kicked in"
    "You're gonna get your #&@#!^%$ head kicked in"
    
    
    A. Footiefan (retired)

    Not sure who it was directed at or which side was singing it but I also
    heard the "You're gonna get your F*** etc etc" being sung on Sunday.
    
    Paul

    
    Wasn't it Eric himself singing " .... head kicked in " ? or was he just
    doing the mime :-)
    f

    Here is my 2-c's worth.
    
    I disagree with the previous noter who described Cantona as a loser.
    Cantona must be one of the best players in the UK (perhaps top ten in
    Europe at the moment). He brings much more to the game in terms of his
    skill and vision than he takes away in his odd indiscretion.
    
    People have overreacted to this issue, most games have a lot worse
    "tackles" which are often given out by the same players week in week
    out. Cantona's kick was bad but over all it was not worse than the
    professional fouls which litter most games (not to mention the fact
    that goal keepers always come out with their feet dangerously up).
    
    Remember that some club's pay nearly three times Cantona's transfer fee
    for players who are infamous for their "tackling" ability!
    
    --Ian
         

    just nit-picking here. I think it was my note that you were referring
    to. I didn't call him a "loser", I called him a louser, it's a word we
    Irish use to describe an <<expletive deleted>>....I wouldn't describe
    Cantona as a loser by any means. I would, however, have no hesitation
    in calling him a temperemental git but a great footballer as well....
    
    Ray

    
    Ruel Fox is today signing for Newcastle for �2.2m. He flew up last
    night and agreed personal terms.
    
    Was it just me, or could everyone tell from his last two performances
    that he was leaving Norwich?
    
    Tony
    
    

It seems that Ruel Fox is on his way to Newcastle for something over �2M.

Let's hope the money is invested wisely. It takes a big chunk out of the service
to Sutton and Ekoku with the loss of Fox. Maybe Deehan has somebody waiting in
the wings to take his place.

Regards
Kev

Or maybe Chase just wants to make some money.

Ever cynical,

mike

    I gather there are a couple of likely candidates in the reserves and
    the youth team that will cover Foxy. I hope he desn't go the same way
    as Dale Gordon who he replaced! I suspect he'll play either Eadie or
    Sutch!  
    I must admit that I liked Fox but I didn't think he was as quick as
    they all say and to date I can hardly ever recall him going past the
    full back in the same way Giggs does. I don't think he will be such a
    loss and he can be replaced. I only hope it doesn't start a run on some
    of the other players - well Sutton anyway!
    
    Bring back ted MacDougal!!
    
    paul

It's a shame to see Fox going.  His pace unsettles many defenders, and 
Sutton and Ekoku will miss the service that he provides.  However, just 
lately he has been playing out of position at Norwich - on Sunday he played 
alongside Sutton in the middle, rather than on the wing, and was rather 
anonymous throughout the game.

On the day after Walker left Norwich, Fox said that he would have to 
consider his future at Norwich.  Therefore this is not a great surprise, 
but it is still disappointing.  It seems that while Norwich (Robert 
chase, to be more precise) continue to show a lack of ambition, the best 
players (and manager) will leave.

For Newcastle's sake, I hope that he performs better than the last winger 
to leave Norwich for mega-bucks - Dale Gordon.  He went to Rangers, where 
he struggled to win a first team place.  He than went to West Ham for a 
vastly reduced fee.

So who will replace Fox in the Norwich side?  Frankly, I don't know.  We 
have a few youngsters who have played odd games for the first team in 
midfield (Darryl Sutch, Darren Eadie, David Smith, Andrew (?) Johnson), but 
I do not know of any out-and-out wingers.  I doubt that much money will be 
made available to buy a replacement.  I know that Chase wants to refurbish 
the South Stand, so I expect that the money will go towards that.

Jon

re:.392

Paul,

Do you really remember Ted MacDougal??

I held a season ticket for the seasons 70-71 and 71-72. Followed them all the way
to Wembley for the League Cup Final against Spurs in 71(?).

The team at that time used to come and train during the summer months in the
grounds of a boarding school where my parents had a house, so I used to go and
watch and collect the autographs from the players at the time : Duncan Forbes,
Kevin Keelan, Dave Stringer, Jimmy Bone, Graham Paddon, Ken Foggo etc.
I even passed up the chance, one summer, of playing cricket with them while they
were there.

Other personal blasts from the past :

1. played against an under-18 side, Attleborough, which at the time had a tall
lanky winger called John Fashanu playing for them. They beat us 26-0.

2. returned home one Christmas for the University break, to be invited to play in
a local side from Norwich which contained none other than Martin Peters.

Regards
Kev

    Jon
    
    I think it's more of a case that if you had 2 million to spend, what
    winger would you go for? Assuming the criteria is pace, can go past
    people and scores I can only short list about 3/4 from the premier div.
    and I don't know anyone with a reputation worth looking at in the 1st.
    
    I'd be interested to hear who would be an ideal replacement
    Any suggestions (apart from Stuart Ripley!)
    
    paul

    re: .394
    
    Yep! I thought ted was one of the great unsung goal scorers ever! It
    didn't matter what it hit but 8 times of 10 it went in!
    
    There was him, phil boyer, and other greats like jimmy neighbour, ian
    Miller, Peter Sylvester, Viv Busby!! to name but a few!
    
    Blasts from my past footballing days:
    Clubs: Ang Combination league -  lakeford Rangers
           (Also Sunday youth league)
           Sunday Morning league  -  Marlpit (div1/2) now disbanded
    
    Duncan Forbes put 6 stitches in my knee one Sunday morning when we
    played Unity Emeralds. Fortunately we won 2-1 (without me)
    
    Also played against Peter Mendham, John Robson (used to pay CF for city
    at one time) plus a whole batch of ex city players who went on to play
    for teams like Wroxham and so on. 
    
    I alos came across both fashanus in my time - rough buggers too!
    
    I can go back and remember names like, Jim Ryan, Bill Punton, hugh
    Curran, Tommy Bryceland, Gordon Bolland, Clive Payne (still know clive
    well), Ron Davies, Alan Black, Roger Cross -- ooh the memories.
    I was there when Jimmy Bone bundled in the equalizer against Everton in
    our first Div 1 game, when Dave Stringer powered in the injury time
    header against Palace that kept us up! When we beat utd at old trafford
    in the cup 2-1 as a 2nd div side (against the likes of Law, Charlton
    and so on - Best was out drinking) and then lost 3-1 at home to Sheff
    Wed in the next round. Ye gods the memories.
     Who did score the first goal against Utd in that cup win? I can never
    remember his name! I remember law's goal and Bollands but not the
    first!
    
    So what clubs did you play for then Kev?
    
    Paul

    What has happened to Daryl Sutch? The times I saw him play in 92/93 &
    91/92 he looked an excellent player but he seems to have struggled to
    obtain a regular place.
    
    Andy
    

You could try Tony Daley. He wanted to leave Villa some time ago, and he's got a
better haircut than Ruel Fox.

mike

re. 395

Agreed, there are few �2m wingers around.  And I cannot see any of them 
coming to Norwich - the wages are too low to attract the big names.

re. 398 

Sutch has played a couple of games this season, and was used as a 
substitute in some of the UEFA Cup games.  He's still young, so will have 
more chances when the likes of Megson and Crook call it a day.

re. memories

I remember Ted MacDougall.  He never did much in the game, and was a real 
goal-hanger, but give him the ball and he would score more often than not. 
I went to my first game around '73 or '74 (we beat Liverpool 2-1)!  I went 
to most home games up until '85, when I went off to university in Kent, so 
couldn't get to many games.  Interesting that you should mention Peter 
Mendham - I saw him play a couple of years ago for my home town, Diss Town, 
in the quarter-finals of the FA Vase.  Unfortunately, he had lost some of 
his skill, so was just as bad as the others!

Jon

    Jon
    Ithink Mendham is a back room boy at the ground now, I've seen him a
    coupla times in the 101 club and in the tunnel. I seem to remember he
    retired due to a knee injury so I'm not surprised he wasn;t as good as
    he used to be!
    
    Bring on Sutch -  Tony Daley you can keep unless we get him for 500K

    
    You can have Michael Gilkes of Reading for �300,000. He's reeeeaally
    good.
    
    Tony
    
    

According to Radio 5 news last night, the Norwich supporters are supposed to be
arranging a demonstration at Saturdays game in response to the sale of Fox.

Chase was interviewed and made the point that the money that came from the Fox
sale was being made available to Deehan if he wanted to strengthen the squad. He
also pointed out that there are at least 5 players who have come up from the
youth ranks that can take the place of Ruel Fox.

CEEFAX had some rumour that Norwich were set to make a double purchase, no
names, in the light of the Fox sale.

Regards
Kev

Kev,

Yes, I saw on CEEFAX last night that Norwich are hoping to buy two 
*Premiership* players.  I also heard that Fox was offered at deal to stay 
at Norwich which would have made him the highest paid player at the club.

Jon

    
    Regular rumours this season have been that Norwich have been looking at
    Blackburns Mark Atkins, aged 23(I think) and can play midfield or full
    back.
    
    I bet that will have you wetting yourselves with excitement :-)
                      
    Cheers,
    
    Andy

    I believe one of the guy city were after was Dwight Yorke!
    
    Fox made it clear he wanted to go when Walkerwent, it was only a
    question of who came in with the right money and when!
    Shame he has no real brain to thik with!
    
    Paul

    re .404,
    
    Jon - you can have Michael Thomas and Mark Walters and still have a
    couple of million left.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks

There's an interesting article in the Guardian today about how Norwich have 
sold their best players.  Since Chase became chairman in 1986, we have 
spent �8,563,000 on in-coming players, and have received �15,690,000 for 
players leaving (including Fox).  I make this a profit of �7,127,000.  

The article says that we made �2m from the UEFA Cup run, have signed a 
�1.6m kit deal over 4 years, and our crowds are above break-even level 
(which is 15,000).  With TV rights and sponsorship, this adds up to a lot 
of dosh, so why do we still have to sell players?  Even the improvements to 
the ground have been 75% funded by grants.

A Norwich supporter argues that this shows a "blinding lack of ambition". 
He says that Chase is always refering to Norwich as a small club, whose 
ambition is only to keep Norwich in the Premiership.  We needed to 
strengthen the squad after last season, but instead we are selling players.

I certainly agree with this.  We surely don't need to sell our top players 
for the money.  And there must be something available to attract new 
players.  Chase has done well to build up such a successful team, but there 
is no need to dismantle it just as we are in with a shout of winning 
something.

Jon

    It would be exceedingly interesting to hear Chase answer those figures
    and justify exactly where all this dosh has gone - Even with JOhn
    barnes in the squad on his wages you would find it difficult to getrid
    of the excess!
    
    I bet he won't say anything!
    
    Paul

    Give the guy a break! You lot where the pundits' candidates for
    relegation last year.
    
    Look at what he has done for your club:
        - a stable team getting results
        - a team playing good football (under 3 different managers)
        - a club with a good stadium
        - a club with stable finances
    
    As a poor Jam-tart I'd be happy with just one of the above. 
    
    If you want Norwich to be like Man Utd, Newcastle or Blackburn (or dare
    I say Rangers) then get yourself either 35,000 season ticket holders
    (consistently over 5 seasons even with a poor team) or a
    multi-millionaire owner who is willing to blow money.
    
    Look at the state clubs like Everton, Man City, Celtic etc. are in
    after paying fat wages and transfer fees.
    
    Chase can buy Hearts any day and I'd be a happy man!
    
    --Ian                                           
    

    
    Ian,
    
    I agree that Chase has done a good job at Norwich, but what annoys me,
    and most Norwich supporters, is that he seems to lack the ambition to
    go any further.  It would not have taken much more money to keep Mike
    Walker at Norwich, and there's no reason not to offer him a long-term
    contract.  It would certainly not have endangered our finances - in
    fact, if Walker had brought more success, then the finances would
    improve further.  I'm sure that if Walker had stayed, then Fox would
    not have gone to Newcastle.
    
    Norwich 2
    Liverpool 2
    
    We should have won on Saturday - it could easily have been 3-0 or 4-0
    at half time.  Ekoku missed a couple of good chances, and Sutton should
    have done better with a free header.  Sutton's second goal was a gem -
    a one-two with Goss, then he curled it beyond Grobbelaar into the far
    corner.  Liverpool's second goal was a bit dodgy - Rush clearly impeded
    Gunn, but to be fair Polston had tried to pull down Rush just outside
    the area.  Gunn was rightly sent off for handball outside the area - he
    stopped a certain goal, so could have no arguments about the
    decision.  As mentioned in the Liverpool note, it was good so see
    Deehan give such a level-headed response to the sending off - a far cry
    from Ferguson's tirade last week.
    
    Jon

re: last 2

Jon and Ian both have a point.

Arguing for Ians comments. If we had held on to Walker and Fox and then reaped
whatever success this would bring, would Norwich ever hold down 35,000 season
ticket holders. Lets face it the ground, lovely though it is, only has a capacity
of 29,000(?). With that size ground how could the club afford to up the players
salaries in order to keep the side strong?? Norwichs continued success lies in
keeping their youth policy strong and strengthen the squad through shrewd buys
rather than big money buys. I'd be more than upset to see Sutton go, but will
Norwich be able to hold on to him??

I'd agree with Jon as well, that every Norwich supporter only sees the best
players leaving the club which must hamper Norwichs' chances of success.
Jon is probably right as well, that the continued success and possible European
successes would also have netted the club some reasonable cash, but I think
everyone would agree that Norwich aren't exactly drawing crowds of 40,000+
every time they play at home. Man. U. are, and have been even during their lean
years. Perhaps Chase should invest mega-bucks in giving City an Old Trafford size
stadium, increasing the players wages, spending vast sums of money to buy the
best players etc, etc. Would it bring success?? Maybe. Would the success last??

Oh God I'm speaking with the same small club mindset as Robert Chase ;-).

Regards
Kev (on the fence once more)

    
    Kev,
    
    I agree, Norwich will never get large crowds, because it is not in a
    major urban area.  Actually, the capacity at Carrow Road is only about
    22,000.  But I do not believe that 35K or 40K crowds are necessary for
    success.  It certainly helps, but there are plenty examples of managers
    spending mega-bucks but not gaining success.
    
    I'm sure that even with our crowds, the money is available for
    reasonable wages, although we'll never compete with the large clubs in
    that respect.  It was the lack of ambition, rather than sub-standard
    wages, which caused Walker and Fox to go. 
    
    If the team had been kept together this season (including Walker), and
    had been strengthened by a couple of new signings, then I'm sure that
    we could have won something.  We do not need to splash out huge sums
    for players.  There are plenty of talented players who could come in to
    help nurture the talent coming up from the youth team.  Gary Megson is
    an excellent example of this - and he came on a free transfer.
    
    Jon

    re. ground
    
    I remember a couple of years back lots of talk about building a brand
    new stadium outside of the cit, between Cringleford and Hethersett I
    believe. This was before they did the barclay stand etc etc.For me this
    was the one real good chance to build a terrific stadium that had great
    road and rail links and was only some 10 mins from the city centre.
    
    The plan involved a35 -40 K all seater with all mod cons, built in more
    of the continental styleof stadiums. Unfortunately the cost and the
    county council put paid to it - but it is indictive of the lack of
    forward thinking- We could have attracted 1) larger crowds 2) ground
    selection for European tournament and/or FA cup semi's to name but 2
    I thought it was a great idea, but as usual the Norfolk conservatism
    prevailed and we upgraded Carrow road instead - Lack of ambition or
    what?
    
    paul
    

    Norwich 1
    Arsenal 1
    
    This was our fourth consecutive home draw.  This home jinx is getting
    ridiculous.  Arsenal took the lead after about half an hour.  Gunn
    misjudged a cross, which Smith headed back to Campbell, who couldn't
    miss (unlike last Wednesday :-).  The reporters on Radio 5 said it had
    been a terrible first half.  They had commentary on the second half,
    and it certainly was an improvement.  Norwich brought on Darren Eadie,
    a winger, and immediately looked more dangerous.  Norwich were level
    after 57 minutes, thanks to a "route one" move.  A long kick by Gunn
    was headed on by Sutton to Ekoku, who took it past Bould before
    shooting past Seaman.  Both teams had chances to win it, and Arsenal
    had a penalty appeal turned down when Parlour was allegedly tripped by
    Newman (I did not see the game, so cannot comment).
    
    There was more bad news for Mark Robins last week.  He needs yet
    another operation on his knee.  With Ekoku going to play for Nigeria in
    March, this should give Lee Power a chance to establish himself in the
    first team.
    
    Jon

>Arsenal had a penalty appeal turned down when Parlour was allegedly tripped by
>Newman (I did not see the game, so cannot comment).

On first impressions, it looked like a dive, but looking at the slo-mo, Parlour
was definitely tripped. Newman was lucky to get away with it.

Al

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                        NORWICH CITY 1 - ARSENAL 1

This game never promised to be a premiership classic and it most definitely
wasn't.   It was  a bitterly  cold day and the crowd were creating noise to
keep warm  more than  because they  were enjoying  the game.   Arsenal were
without Ian Wright, their prolific goal scorer, and were out to prove their
worth after losing to Bolton in a mid-week FA cup clash.

The first  half was  dire.   Norwich were  ineffective and Arsenal were not
much better.   Kevin  Campbell put Arsenal into the lead in the 34th minute
from a  corner, but  even that was a dull goal.  The only moment of joy for
Norwich in  the first half was when Sutton spotted Seaman two yards too far
forward and  attempted a chip.  Seaman just got his hand to the ball and it
hit the crossbar.

Ekoku still  seemed to  lack the  control that a premiership striker should
have and  if some  of his chances had gone to Sutton, Norwich may have well
taken the lead.

After the  break, Norwich  seemed to  want to  make a game of it.  Two subs
were brought on and Norwich had Eadie, Power, Sutton and Ekoku on the pitch
at the  same time.   Eventually,  a long clearance from Gunn was flicked on
from Sutton  to Ekoku  and he  drove home  from 18  yards to  bring Norwich
level.   He should  have put Norwich in the lead a couple of minutes later,
but his header went wide.

The match  was shown  live on  Sky, but I doubt that many people would have
watched it.   Not only was it a dull game, but the Man Utd v Sheff Wed game
was on ITV and started before the Norwich game.

FACTS:
CROWD     : 17,667
SCORERS   : NORWICH; EKOKU 57      ARSENAL; CAMPBELL 33
HT SCORE  : NORWICH 0 - ARSENAL 1
REFEREE   : R.Dilkes
NORWICH   : Gunn, Culverhouse, Polston, Newman, Woodthorpe, Goss,
            Crook, Megson, Bowen, Ekoku, Sutton; SUBS Power, Eadie
ARSENAL   : Seaman, Dixon, Adams, Bould, Winterburn, Parlour, Jensen,
            Merson, Davies, Campbell, Smith

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ASTON VILLA    5         SWINDON        0
EVERTON        0         IPSWICH        0
MAN CITY       0         WEST HAM       0
OLDHAM         2         CHELSEA        1
SHEFF UTD      0         COVENTRY       0
TOTTENHAM      0         BLACKBURN      2
WIMBLEDON      4         NEWCASTLE      2
NORWICH        1         ARSENAL        1

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               1    MAN UTD             28   67
               2    BLACKBURN           27   57
               3    ARSENAL             28   47
               4    NEWCASTLE           27   45
               5    LIVERPOOL           27   44
               6    A. VILLA            27   44
               7    SHEFF WED           28   43
               8    LEEDS               27   43
               9    NORWICH             27   41
               10   QPR                 27   39
               11   WIMBLEDON           27   36
               12   WEST HAM            28   36
               13   COVENTRY            28   35
               14   IPSWICH             28   33
               15   EVERTON             29   32
               16   TOTTENHAM           29   30
               17   CHELSEA             27   26
               18   OLDHAM              28   26
               19   MAN CITY            27   25
               20   SOUTHAMPTON         27   24
               21   SHEFF UTD           28   23
               22   SWINDON             29   22

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It seems that Norwich are about to spend some of their money from te Fox 
transfer.  They are buying Neil Adams from Oldham for �250,000.  Does 
anyone know anything about him?  It says in the paper that he is a 
27-year-old winger.  But is he any good?

Jon

    Oldham's excuse for selling Adams was that they can't afford the luxury
    (?) of two wingers -- tell that to Fergie -- and Holden is first
    choice. For 250K, well you don't get much thgese days; probably means
    he can pull his shirt on the right way round.

    I heard he will probably be playing on Saturday!
    
    City have to get back to winning ways if they still hold any hope of
    getting into Europ next year. A top 3 finish is going be vital,
    particularly if United win 2 of the 3 trophies or better all 3.
    
    Course if Arsenal win their European competition it would be different
    
    Paul

Swindon 3
Norwich 3

Sounds like an entertaining game - the scoring went 0-1 1-1 1-2 2-2 3-2 3-3 
I only saw the goals on TV - Sutton scored the first, after a run down the 
right.  Newman volleyed in the second from about 8 yards after a corner, 
and Goss got the equaliser with about 7 minutes to go, being the first 
player to react after Crook's shot hit the bar.  Scott Howie made his debut 
in goal because Gunn was suspended, and Neil Adams made his debut on the 
wing.

Jon  

    
    
    That Goss bloke is a dirty bugger isn't he? It's a shame that he spoils
    his game with unneccessary violent outbursts. 
    
    Tony
    
    

re:-1

Tony,

You wouldn't be taking the mickey would you??

This wouldn't be because one of us, namely me, commented on the activties of a
certain Mr. Cantona would it??

/K

    
    It was in reference to Goss's right hook at John Moncur on Saturday,
    and yes, it was very much tongue-in-cheek!
    
    Tony
    
    

    It was also very much a sending off offence. As was Moncur's
    retaliation a few seconds before.
    
    But the ref was c**p all game so it was no surprise when he didn't send
    the pair off.
    
    

CEEFAX reported that Ian Crook, 31, and Rob Newman, 30, both signed new 2.5 year
deals with Norwich yesterday. This will probably keep the pair at the club for what is
left of their playing careers.

Anyone have any comments on Neil Adams' debut for the Canaries??

/K

    
    
    	Does anybody know what the Norwich v Blackburn Rovers score was
                               tonight.
    
    
    			Stevie,
    

               Norwich 2 - 2 Blackburn
       Sutton pen 40, 57   Gallacher 32, 58
    
    Blackburn's surge up the table is checked. John Polston sent off for
    Norwich after two bookable offences.
    
    Paul.
    

Polston was sent off on 45(?) minutes.

Norwich took the lead with their 10 men on 57 minutes.

Sutton missed a great chance to win it on 88 minutes.

The sad part about it all really is that Norwich have temporarily stalled
Blackburns chase of United. The last thing I want is United winning 3 domestic
trophies.

Regards
Kevin

Norwich 2
Blackburn 2

Only heard the last few minutes on Radio 5.  Alan Green said that a draw 
was just about a fair result.  Blackburn took the lead through Gallacher 
after he outpaced the Norwich back four.  Norwich were level 8 minutes 
later when Sutton was brought down by Berg in the penalty area, and Sutton 
scored from the penalty.  In injury time John Polston was sent off for his 
second bookable offence.  Norwich brought on Butterworth at the start of 
the second half, and switched to a sweeper system.  This brought about an 
improvement in defence, and Norwich took the lead just before the hour with 
a well taken Sutton goal.  However, within a minute Blackburn were level, 
Gallacher again the scorer.  Sutton had a great chance to win it just 
before the end, but his finishing was poor.

Not a satisfactory result for either team - Blackburn lose ground on 
United, and Norwich still cannot win at home.  Our chances of reaching 3rd, 
and the possibility of a UEFA Cup spot, are now very slim.

Jon

    Report on Radio Triviera here sid Blackburn should have won They had a
    goal disallowed in the first half and a definite last minute penalty
    turned down! 
    Anyone got any comments?
    How did the new guy play.  Can't be bad to hold Blackburn and/or nearly
    win with only 10men.
    
    re.430
    
    I still think we can get 3rd. All we need is a bit of luck and about 5
    wins on the trot! We are definitely letting in too many goals, perhaps
    a return to the sweeper system would be better!
    
    Paul

Paul,

>    How did the new guy play.  

Adams was substituted at half-time, to make way for Butterworth.  This was 
probably a tactical substitution due to Polston being sent off, rather than 
an indication of how he was playing.  However, the report in my 'paper did 
not mention his name, so he can't have done anything outstanding.

Jon

>>                                -< Neil Adams >-

>>Paul,

>>>    How did the new guy play.  

>>Adams was substituted at half-time, to make way for Butterworth.  This was 
>>probably a tactical substitution due to Polston being sent off, rather than 
>>an indication of how he was playing.  However, the report in my 'paper did 
>>not mention his name, so he can't have done anything outstanding.
    
    ....according to the Torygraph, he missed an open goal after just four
    minutes.
    
    Rob

    
    WHAT A LOT OF RUBBISH
    

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               NORWICH DRAW AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN ....

     Since the last mailing, Norwich have draw every game they have played,
now drawing  7 league  games in  succession !  At the Swindon game, Norwich
should have  won, going  ahead twice.   Newman,  Goss and  Sutton were  the
scorers.   That game  showed well  that Norwich seemed to be unable to both
score goals  and defend  securely at  the same  time, a point proved by the
following matches.   Scott  Howie was in goal for that match, and it seemed
that he  needed some  more first team practice.  It was also the first game
for Neil Adams, a midfield player signed from Oldham for 250,000.

     The Blackburn  Rovers game  at home on the 22nd February always looked
tough and it was.  The player who really caught my eye was Neil Adams.  His
running down  the wing  was superb  and all  of his  crosses seemed to land
exactly where  he planned  them to.   However, it was not the best of games
for a  home debut.   Blackburn  desperately wanted  a win,  to keep up with
Manchester United at the top of the league.

     The referee  was rather  book and  card happy that night, and Polston,
Newman and  Wilcox were  all booked for trivial offences.  However, Polston
suffered for  this later when he pulled at Alan Shearer's shirt after being
left behind.   The  referee saw it as a second bookable offence and ordered
Polston off  the pitch, the third Norwich player to be sent off this season
so far.

     Blackburn took  the lead  after 32  minutes from  a  quick  break  and
Gallacher was  the player  who put  the ball  in the  back of the net.  The
equalizer cam  eight minutes  later from  the penalty spot after Sutton had
been brought down by Berg.  Sutton was the player to convert the kick.

     Norwich played  the entire  of the  second half with ten men, and many
people feared  that Norwich would get a hammering.  However, Norwich showed
that they  had plenty of spirit, by taking the lead in the 57th minute when
Sutton (again)  lashed the  ball into  the net.   The  lead only  lasted 20
seconds though, with Shearer heading the ball on for Gallacher to score his
second of the game.

     After this,  Norwich, who had been playing with a flat back four, went
back to  their sweeper  system and defended well for the rest of the match.
In fact,  Norwich should  have won  the game,  with Sutton missing a fairly
easy chance with just a couple of minutes to go.

     The next  game was  again at home, against Sheffield Wednesday on 26th
February.   Wednesday were  one place  above Norwich  in the  league and it
promised to  be an  exciting match.   For  75 minutes though, it was a most
unmemorable affair.   Neither  side looked  like taking control of the game
and some  pitiful passing  of the  game sent  the crowd  to  sleep.    Even
Wednesday's Tango man put his shirt on as he was getting cold !

     However, in  the 75th  minute, Sheffield Wednesday took the lead after
Norwich's defence  (again) collapsed.   It  looked like  they had won it as
Norwich, to  be honest,  did not  look like  scoring,  even  Sutton  looked
unimpressive.   By the  time 90  minutes came around, many of the crowd had
gone or  were leaving (not myself I might add, I HATE doing that).  Norwich
earned a  corner, and in a desperate bid to get a point, Bryan Gunn went up
into attack.   Gunn's  gamble paid  off.   His height in the Sheffield area
upset the defenders and the ball eventually fell to Sutton who drilled home
the equaliser.   Neil  Adams was  again very  impressive.   He only  cost a
250,000 from  Oldham and represents Norwich's ONLY purchase since the sale
of Fox.  What has happened to the other 2 million pounds is a mystery to us
all.   Surely Robert Chase must have already secured a healthy bank balance
for the  club after  Europe, Sky  games, the Mitre deal etc etc ??  With so
much in the bank, Norwich may have huge tax bill in April !

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                     CURRENT PREMIER LEAGUE STANDINGS

                    POS  TEAM           PLD  PTS
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                    1    MAN UTD        29   68
                    2    BLACKBURN      30   61
                    3    ARSENAL        30   51
                    4    NEWCASTLE      29   48
                    5    LIVERPOOL      30   47
                    6    LEEDS          28   46
                    7    ASTON VILLA    28   45
                    8    SHEFF WED      29   44
                    9    NORWICH        30   44
                    10   QPR            27   39
                    11   COVENTRY       31   38
                    12   WEST HAM       29   37
                    13   IPSWICH        29   36
                    14   WIBMLEDON      28   36
                    15   EVERTON        30   33
                    16   TOTTENHAM      30   30
                    17   SOUTHAMPTON    29   30
                    18   CHELSEA        28   29
                    19   MAN CITY       30   29
                    20   OLDHAM         28   26
                    21   SHEFF UTD      29   33
                    22   SWINDON        31   23


                       TOP THREE PREMIERSHIP SCORERS

                    PLAYER         TEAM           GOALS
                    -----------------------------------
                    ANDY COLE      NEWCASTLE      33
                    ALAN SHEARER   BLACKBURN      28
                    CHRIS SUTTON   NORWICH        24

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I thought our run of draws was over at 4.45 on Saturday, but a last gasp 
equaliser by Sutton got us a point.  Things must have been desparate if 
Gunn went up for the corner.  He certainly caused havoc in the Wednesday 
penalty area.

re. last - Good to hear the good reports about Neil Adams.  Lets hope that 
he can inspire us to win a few home games, rather than all these draws.

There's speculation that Sutton may be in Terry Venables' squad this 
afternoon.  He's certainly been a consistent goal scorer in the last couple 
of months, and fully deserves a place in the squad.

Jon

Wimbledon 3
Norwich 1

Ah well, at least it stops our run of draws.  Norwich took the lead through 
Ekoku, but two goals from Robbie Earle, and one from Holdsworth were enough 
to give Wimbledon the three points.  We have still yet to win in the League 
with Deehan as manager.

I read something on Friday or Saturday that Lee Power is poised to leave 
Norwich.  I forget who it said he was going to.  The clubs had agreed a 
price, it was just up to Power to agree personal terms.

Jon

    Jon
    
    I went along to Selhurst Park on Saturday (even went into the Norwich
    end!) and they were well an truely stuffed. Wimbledon were unlucky not
    to add another 2 goals and Sutton was well contained. I can't see him
    getting into the England squad on that performance.
    
    Martin Q

    	
    	Anyone know how long Polston's Ban is for...
    

Well Ceefax stated that Lee Power had agreed personal terms and was being sold to
Bradford City for �200,000.

The Daily Telegraph has an article on the return of Paul Lake at Man. City. This piece
also contains stuff about Mike Sheron and alludes to the fact that Norwich have made
an approach for one the players but it isn't clear which one. Anyone else read
any news reports on this??

Regards
Kevin

Norwich 3
QPR 4

I haven't seen the goals, but according to the reports in yesterday's 
papers the Norwich defence was non-existant at times.  Norwich twice took 
the lead with Ekoku goals, but three goals in 15 minutes gave QPR a 4-2 
lead.  Bowen got one back just before the end.  We haven't won in the 
League since New Year's Day.  Our last home win was in December, against 
Leeds.

As for the Chris Sutton rumours, I don't think that he'll go before the 
transfer deadline.  Robert Chase has never sold more than one big-money 
player per financial year - too much tax to pay!  As we've already got 2.25 
million for Fox this year, Chase won't let him go until the end of the 
season.

Jon

    I think Sutton would be daft to go.. after all Spurs are a good
    candidate for relegation!  Anyone got any more news on the rumours
    about city wanting Mike Sheron of Man City?
    
    Having seen the last two games, I believe we must invest in a good
    central defender who attacks the ball in the air in the box. In both
    the Wimbledon and QPR games we didn't seem to know what to do when a
    ball was in the air. Nobody attacked it at all. Shore up the defense
    and we should return to our old winning ways.
    
    Bring back Andy Lineghan!
    
    Paul

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                  THINGS JUST GET WORSE FOR THE CANARIES
                                     
                  NORWICH CITY 3 - QUEENS PARK RANGERS 4

     Let's be  honest about this.  I had a bad feeling about this game when
I was  walking to  Carrow Road.   Not only was there the trouble behind the
scenes and  the bad run of luck on the pitch, but John Deehan had a serious
injury problem.  10 out of the 26 pros had injuries.  If you've got to pick
14 players and you've only got 16 pro's fit, you've got a BIG problem.

     Things looked  like they  might be taking a turn for the better in the
first half.   Norwich  actually played  some amazing  football.  Neil Adams
again played  brilliantly in Fox's old position.  His crosses (at home) are
far more  consistent that Fox's ever were, even if he does lack that little
bit of flair.

     Norwich took  the lead early on in the game.  Efan Ekoku put the first
goal in  with his  head from  a Neil Adams cross (suprise, suprise) and the
recent gloom started to lift from the crowd, who actually began to sing.

     The game  should have  been finished  in the first half as Norwich had
lots of  chances, mostly  to Chris  Sutton.   He seemed to be out of sorts,
probably because of the 4 million pound bid for him from Tottenham (more on
that later).   QPR  seemed to  lack Ferdinand in the first half, who wasn't
playing due  to an  injury.  Anyway, the first half finished 1-0 to Norwich
and the crowd were reasonably happy.

     After the  beak, QPR  were much  the better  side.   It seemed  only a
matter of  time before  they equalised.  Every time they played a set piece
move, Norwich  fell apart,  seemingly unable  to deal  with the ball in the
air.

     Simon Barker  scored the  equaliser in  the 50th  minute  from  a  Ray
Wilkins corner.   After this, Norwich really fell apart.  Rob Newman had to
go off in the 54th minute, after breaking his arm (another injury !) and as
Norwich didn't have any defenders on the bench, reshuffling was needed.

     Now, I  know that Norwich had a problem with team selection, what with
all the  injuries, but  if you  had to  put someone in defence after Newman
went off,  who would  it be  ?   I would  have considered bringing Crook or
Smith back  and putting Akinbiyi on further up field.  However, John Deehan
decided to  bring Akinbiyi  on in  attack, and put Chris Sutton in defence.
He played there 3 years ago and Dixie must have thought that he still would
know how  to defend.   If he did, he was wrong.  Chris Sutton looked like a
fish out of water.  Bryan Gunn looked continually worried with his defence,
and not  without reason.   QPR  quickly picked  up on the fact that Norwich
could no longer handle high balls at all.

     Amazingly enough,  Norwich took  the lead at this point.  Ekoku scored
with a lovely chip over the keeper, although he took quite a knock.  So now
it was 2-1 to Norwich !

     QPR equalised  from Darren Peacock after Devon White flicked on a long
throw in  and Devon White quickly scored another from a cross from Sinclair
which was  flicked on  by Penrice.  Now Norwich were desperate and to their
credit, they  tried their  best and  Bowen did  score in the 88th minute to
make it 3-4, but it was not to be.

     After the  game, Deehan  labelled his  team "a tacticians delight" for
opposing managers,  and stated that "basic errors at both ends of the pitch
keep letting us down.  We're giving away goals from throw-ins and corners".
It's not  really a  good sign  when the  manager starts  having a go at his
players like this !

     It's not  very often  that a  home side  scores  3  and  still  loses.
Norwich though,  have got  a terrible  home record  this season.  Out of 16
home games,  Norwich have won 3, drawn 8 and lost 5, with a goal difference
of -3 (17F, 20A) !

     It didn't  make much difference to the league positions though, as not
many games were played in the premiership.  (I haven't included a standings
table for this reason)

MATCH FACTS :

SCORE :
NORWICH (1) 3 - QPR (0) 4

NORWICH (4-4-2) :
GUNN, CULVERHOUSE, NEWMAN, WOODTHORPE, BOWEN, ADAMS, SMITH, CROOK,
GOSS, EKOKU, SUTTON.  SUBS; ULLATHORNE, AKINBIYI, HOWIE (GK)

QPR (4-4-2) :
STEJSKAL, BARDSLEY, PEACOCK, YATES, WILSON, SINCLAIR, BARKER, WILKINS,
MEAKER, PENRICE, WHITE.  SUBS; HOLLOWAY, READY, ROBERTS (GK)

GOALS :
NORWICH; EKOKU 9, 55  BOWEN 87
QPR; BARKER 49  PEACOCK 64  PENRICE 70  WHITE 84

ATTENDANCE :
16,499

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                              SUTTON TO GO ??

     Tottenham offered  4 million  pounds for  Sutton before  the QPR game.
Deehan has said that, because of his injury problems at the moment, there's
no way he can let him go.  I'm worried though, that Robert Chase will force
him to  sell.   I think  we should  get at  least 5  million for him.  That
sounds like  a lot  of money  (well it  is, but  you know  what I mean) but
consider the following facts :

1) He's only just 21 (in the last week).
2) He's got 11 England under 21 caps.
3) He's now the England under 21 captain.
4) There's no doubt he's getting better.
5) We've had lots of 3 to 4 million pound offers already.
6) His recently signed 3.5 year contract should put an extra million on.
7) He didn't cost Norwich a penny (he was a trainee).
7) He's an incredibly talented, 21 years old, 6 foot 3 striker who loves
   football and never gives up.  He's a managers dream !

     To be  honest, I  can't see  him staying.   If  the club  are  offered
anything in  the region of 5 million or more, they should take it under one
condition.   The condition is that at least two thirds of that money should
be spent  on other players.  That is what really gets on people's nerves at
Carrow Road.  For instance, people didn't really mind the fact that Fox was
sold.   At 2.25  million, Norwich  got a good deal.  The fact that only .25
million has been spent since annoys people intensely.
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                                  RESULTS

                          FA CUP, QUARTER FINALS

BOLTON    1         OLDHAM    0
MAN UTD   3         CHARLTON  1
CHELSEA   1         WOLVES    0
WEST HAM  0         LUTON     0

SEMI-FINAL DRAW :
OLDHAM V MAN UTD
CHELSEA V WEST HAM OR LUTON

                          FA CARLING PREMIERSHIP
                                     
ASTON VILLA    0    IPSWICH   1
MAN CITY       0    WIMBLEDON 1
NEWCASTLE      7    SWINDON   1 (!!)
NORWICH CITY   3    QPR       4
SOUTHAMPTON    1    SHEFF WED 1
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     There is  a  possibility  that  next  year,  I  will  have  a  network
connection in  my room.   If  I do,  and  they  decide  to  put  the  right
connections in,  I will be starting a proper footy server.  I intend to put
GIFs, text,  results, chat  and anything  else that  people want there, for
everyone (FTPable).   I  would also  probably give  people on the NCFC list
special access  permissions.   What do  you think ?  Don't hold your breath
though, it wont be until at least September !

     For the  technically minded  amongst you,  I hope  to have  a  10baseT
connection in my room connected to the uni's central gateway by fibre optic
cable, connecting  to JANET/Internet  through Cambridge.   On my machine (a
486 SX) I want to be running LINUX with about 150mb of public space.
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    At the risk of upsetting Norwich fanes - the second QPR goal should
    have been disallowed. Whoever to the throw in had his front foot at
    least 6 inches in front of the line.
    
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                       The return of Mike Walker !!

Really!!! Norwich aren't playing again until Sat. March 21st 1998.

Should read Monday 21st March at 8pm!!!

Al

At last, the first win of Deehans management career,

From the little bit of commentary I heard on the Radio, the score should have been
5-0 if not 6-0. Southall saved Everton a number of times.

Cross fingers, the team starts to put a run together.

/Kev

I was away last week, so did not get a chance to see the Everton game last 
Monday on Sky.  By all reports, Norwich were back to their best form.  Ian 
Culverhouse scored his first League goal for us (he's played about 300 
games I think), and Sutton and Bowen got the other two.  

Back to normal on Saturday, losing 2-1 at Coventry.  Norwich's goal was 
scored by Darren Eadie, who's playing while Ekoku is away on international 
duty with Nigeria. 

Jon

    So much for putting a run together eh kev.
    
    From what I heard on the World service/radio 5 - Boventry were much the
    better side (which does not say a lot about our performance).
    
    Oh well back to the drawing board for next season!
    Such a shame after it started so well!
    
    paul

re: Paul Ward,

Looks like its back to mediocrity for City after their incursion into Europe
this year. Strange how Walker was predicting a top 6 finish after Norwich beat
Everton 3-0. Looks like we'll have to hope for a top 10 finish.

And then Sutton will go......

Regards
Kevin

Newcastle 3
Norwich 0

A comprehensive defeat, but I'm not totally surprised.  We have nothing 
left to play for this season, while Newcastle are still pushing for a UEFA 
Cup place.  Chris Sutton missed his first game of the season, complaining 
of chest pains.  As a result, Norwich played a 4-5-1 formation, with only 
Eadie up front.

Jon

    re: 450
    
    Sounds like Sutton is on the market doesn't it.!!
    
    
    Oh well, only to be expected.
    Still need to buy a centre half!
    I heard the Ipswich lineghan might be interested!
    
    Paul

    
    I know this isn't the right conference to write this in on ( or maybe
    somebody can tell me where to post this ), but I wanted to contact
    an old friend which lives in the Norwich area. His name is 
    Raymond (Roly) Frostick.
    
    So if somebody has access to a Norwich Telephone book, then please
    send me a mail about his telephone and/or address.
    
    
    Thanks for any help
    

Norwich 1
Spurs 2

No report - I did not see MotD, or a Sunday paper.  I think Sutton scored 
for us, and he also missed a penalty.  Mark Robins came on as a substitute, 
his first appearance since the game at Bayern Munich last October.

Aston Villa 0
Norwich 0

Not much to report, except Sutton almost won it two minutes from time with 
a shot which hit the post.

Our last few games include Southampton, Man. City, Sheffield United and 
Oldham who will all be desparate to win.  Therefore I think that we will 
struggle to keep our place in the top half of the League.

Last Thursday Mike Walker announced that he is going to sue Norwich for 
"constructive dismissal".  The FA commission into Walker's move to Everton 
has not yet reported its findings.  It's expected later this week.

Jon

    I would have thought Walker stood more chance of being sued for that by
    Norwich rather than vice-versa. I don't see any mileage in that for him
    at all. Sounds like desparation to get some money to me!
    be more dignified to leave well alone.
    
    
    Paul

    re -1
    
    Pehaps Walker feels he may be in need of a bit of spare cash after the
    end of the season??
    
    Paul.
    

    He's just asking to be countersued for breach of contract or some other
    sort of thing. As you say he must need the cash or something!
    The shame is that he was developing an excellent reputation at City and
    if he had stayed and perhaps and perhaps got us into Europe again next
    year, he would have been more well known in Europe and really pulled a
    big job - Anything has got to be better than relegation with Everton!
    
    I heard that Chase said that if Sutton goes, he goes! Now there's
    something!!
    
    Paul

Norwich 4
Southampton 5

What can you say about a result like that?  It must have been an exciting 
match to watch, but Norwich threw away the lead three times.  The only time 
Southampton were ahead was in the last minute, when Monkou got the winner. 
Norwich's goals were scored by Robins, Goss and Sutton (2).  From the 
highlights on Match of the Day, both defences were poor, and Southampton 
could even have scored a couple more goals earlier in the game.  At the 
final whistle, there were boos ringing around the ground.  The home 
supporters were obviously upset at the way we lost yet another home game. 
The sooner this season finishes, the better as for as Norwich are 
concerned.  We need to buy a decent central defender and possibly a 
midfielder.  Oh, and we may need a striker if Sutton goes...

Jon

Man. City 1
Norwich 1

Norwich took the lead in the first half, with Ullathorne scoring his first 
goal of the season (not counting last week's own goal)!  But in the first 
minute of the second half, Man. City equalised.  Apparently Gunn made some 
good saves to deny Manchester all three points.

Ian Crook has been called up by Terry Venables to join the England squad 
sessions this week.  This is a fitting reward for Crook, who has had 
another good season for us.  He joins Sutton, who was in the original 
squad.

Jon

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               MANCHESTER CITY 1 - NORWICH CITY 1

Okay, I'll admit it.  I was very busy on Saturday, and also a bit skint,
so I wasn't able to go to the game in Manchester.  As I am not able to write
a match report, I've scanned the local newspaper report of the game and OCR'd
it for you all.  Still, it's better than nothing I suppose.


FANTASY FOOTBALL FROM GREAT GUNN
--------------------------------

Goalkeeper Bryan Gunn celebrated his 350th senior appearance for Norwich
City with an almost superhuman display to halt Manchester City's three-
match winning charge towards Premiership survival.

Frustrating the Germans seems to be a popular pastime with Gunn this season.
Bayern Munich must still occasionally shake their heads in astonishment at 
the save which defied Adolfo Valencia in the Olympic Stadium, even if the
striker in question was a Colombian.

And when Uwe Rosler and Steffen Karl next pop back to the Fatherland they 
will also be able to repon that Gunn takes a bit of beating.

Rosler succeeded once at Maine Road on Saturday, popping up just 45 seconds
after the interval to cancel out Robcn Ullathorne's first half strike for 
the Canaries.

But at the final whistle the only topic of conversation was Gunn's miraculous 
87th minute save which denied Rosler his second goal of the game, earned City
a morale-boosting point, and means the Blues must sweat a little longer.

Gunn's save of the season contender stemmed from a free-kick awarded on the 
right for a foul by Ullathorne on Manchester City's lively substitute Steve
Lomas.

Peter Beagrie's chip towards the far post was met with a thunderous downward
header by Rosler, who was already cranking up for his second one-kneed, arm-pumping
celebration of the day when Gunn swooped low to his right and incredibly managed to turn the
ball away one-handed.
  
Francis Lee compared it with Gordon Banks' save from Pele; even staunch Blues
fan Eddie Large must have gasped at the skill of his fantasy league 'keeper.

Gunn, clearly stung by conceding five goals against Southampton last week, 
had already booked his Canary man-of-the-match status with a string of 
impressive first-half saves to keep the confident Blues at bay.

Manchester City, in fact, looked anything but relegation contenders, with 
their four most recent signings all prominent. Beagrie and Karl gave the
Canary rearguard all sorts of problems on the flanks, whether faced with the
first-half sweeper system or the second half flat back four.

Ian Culverhouse's patience eventually snapped with Beagrie, who joined him 
in the referee's notebook for his angry reaction to a late tackle.

Up front, the rejuvenated Walsh wriggled around dangerously around the 
penalty area as an ideal foil to the sturdy frame of Rosler.

And Steve McMahon became an increasing influence in midfield, where David 
Smith found it tough stepping into the gritty boots of Gary Megson.

Gunn's heroics largely papered over some of City's continuing defensive 
cracks, but this was still a far more spirited all-round Canary display
against an impressive-looking Blues outfit.

The game was only 12 minutes old when Gunn began his supershow, somehow
sticking out his right foot to deny Walsh an apparently certain goal
after he had turned John Polston on the penalty spot before firing an 
instant shot.

That save proved vital as City snatched the lead almost completely against
the run of play with a fine goal after 14 minutes. Polston's free-kick from
the half-way line was nodded down by Chris Sutton to Mark Robins, and his 
neat control and lay-offenabled Ullathorne to score with an angled left-foot
drive into the far corner.

Before the interval Gunn was forced into further good saves from Walsh and 
David Rocastle, but the Canaries still enjoyed some encouraging moments at the
other end, where Sutton in particular gave Keith Curle and Michel Vonk a
few headaches.

After 16 minutes Robins was not far from celebrating his first start for six
months by putting City 2-0 up after Andy Dibble fumbled a low dive from the
hard-working Goss.

Then, after 39 minutes, Sutton was denied by a fine save by Dibble after his
neat drag-back inside the area left Vonk completely flat-footed.

At that stage hopes were still high that City might be on course for their 
first win at Maine Road for 30 years, but disaster struck as a German one-two
exposed the Canaries' defensive gremlins within 45 seconds of the restart.

Karl got the better of Mark Bowen on the right, and Rosler got ahead of 
Polston at the near post to hammer an unstoppable first-time shot past
Gunn.

City almost regained their lead after 55 minutes when Crook and Goss combined
to send Sutton clear, but a poor touch enabled Andy Hill to get back and cover.

Thereafter the home side pressed strongly, but brave defending, wayward
finishing and Gunn's goalkeeping as he denied McMahon, Lomas and ultimately,
Rosler, kept City's heads above water.

The Canaries' overall record of one league win in 16 games under John Deehan
remains a matter for concern, but this was very much a point won rather than
two lost.

As for the Maine Road jinx . . . it remains intact, but perhaps its power is
beginning to fade.  If the Blues survive, they'll be sticking pins in dolls of
Bryan Gunn next season.

           Match facts

         MANCHESTER CITY
           Andy DIBBLE
            Andy HILL
        David BRIGHTWELL
          Steve MCMAHON
           Keith CURLE
           Michel VONK
         David ROCASTLE
           Paul WALSH
           Uwe ROSLER
          Steffen KARL
          Peter BEAGRIE

           Substitutes
    Lomas for Karl (80 mins)
Sheron, Margetson (GK), not used

        Shots on target 9
       Shots off target 8
            Corners 7
        Fouls committed 7
           Offsides 1
      GoalQRoler (46 mins)
    BookingQBeagrie (44 mins)

          NORWICH CITY
           Bryan GUNN
           Mark BOWEN
            lan CROOK
         lan CULVERHOUSE
          John POLSTON
          Spencer PRIOR
           Mark ROBINS
        Robert ULLATHORNE
           David SMITH
          Chris SUTTON

           Substitutes
     Ekoku for Robins (57 mins)
     Adams for Smith (74 mins)
        Howie (GK, not used)

        Shots on target 4
        Shots off target 2
            Corners 5
        Fouls committed 12
            Offsides 4
     GoalQUllathorne 114 mins)
   BookingsQCulverhouse (44 mins),
       Ullathorne (81 mins)

EDP-Norwich Cablevision man-of-the-match : Bryan Gunn
Referee Q D Elleray (Harrow)
Attendance Q 28,020


   FA Carling Premiership

Arsenal      1  Chelsea     O

Coventry     1  Sheff Wed   1

Ipswich      1  Swindon     1

Liverpool    O  Newcastle   2

Man City     1  Norwich     1

Oldham       1  West Ham    2

QPR          2  Everton     1

Sheff Utd    1  Aston Villa 2

Southampton  3  Blackburn   1

Wimbledon    1 Man Utd      O

Leeds        2 Tottenham    O

01  Man Utd               37  23  10  4   72  37  79
02  Blackburn             38  24  7   7   59  32  79
03  Newcastle             38  20  8   10  72  36  68
04  Arsenal               37  17  15  5   49  21  66
05  Leeds                 37  16  14  7   54  34  62
06  SheffWed              38  15  13  10  68  51  58
07  Liverpool             39  16  9   14  56  51  57
08  Wimbledon             37  15  10  12  44  46  55
09  Aston Villa           38  14  12  12  41  38  54
10  QPR                   37  15  9   13  57  55  54
11  Norwich               39  11  16  12  63  59  49
12  Coventry              38  12  12  14  39  43  48
13  WestHam               37  12  11  14  40  51  47
14  Chelsea               37  11  10  16  40  46  43
15  Man City              39  9   16  14  35  44  43
16  Ipswich               39  9   15  15  34  51  42
17  Everton               39  11  7   21  39  58  40
18  Tottenham             38  9   12  17  47  55  39
19  Southampton           38  11  6   21  42  57  39
20  Oldham                36  9   10  17  38  58  37
21  Sheff Utd             38  6   17  15  36  56  35
22  Swindon               38  4   15  19  42  88  27

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From: Simon Juden <[email protected]>

Hi Stewart,

Here are a few ideas/points for discussion (through this list) on how NCFC
could start to achieve its full potential as a club. I've deliberately been
very open-ended on a couple of things, hopefully this will mean a discussion
gets started...

	1) Get rid of Robert Chase

Whatever we think of Walker after his departure, it is undeniable that he
brought the club much success. I personally attribute his departure to Chase.
I've supported Norwich for a lot of years and the story under Chase's
chairmanship has always been the same - we sit around the middle/bottom of the
table, we get a couple of players who start to look as if they might be quite
good, we do better for a season or so, we then sell said players and sit
around the middle/bottom of the table again. It seems to me that if we MUST
sell our best players the least we could do is spend the money received on
other players. A more successful side playing attractive football means
increased gates, which means increased revenue, which eventually means enough
money to spend on all these other things we seem to spend money on instead of
players. We should not have sold Fox and we should not sell Sutton.

	2) Sort our defensive formation out

In the large majority of Norwich games I have seen this season, our defence
has been confused and we have often conceded goals because of this. The last
game I actually saw live was the 3-3 against Swindon at Swindon; arguably both
but certainly one of Fjortoft's goals arose from badly organised defence (He
just stood at the near post waiting for a cross - one defender 6 yards in
front of him and one six yards behind. Neither challenged him for the header
from which he scored). All too often our defenders seem confused about where
they should actually be and what they should actually be doing there,
irrespective of whether we play a sweeper or a flat four. 

	3) Get rid of Robert Chase

	4) Sort our midfield out

Mark Bowen needs to have the freedom to bring the ball up from the back - when
he is given this freedom we seem to look like a different (and much better)
side entirely. With Robins back Eadie and Ekoku need to be given roles to suit
their individual (and different) talents. Adams, Crook, Megson and Goss need
to know exactly what they are supposed to be doing - they are all capable
players, but often our midfield seems to lack cohesion and looks ineffective.
I would be interested to hear what other people on the net think.

	4) Sort our attacking formation out

Less urgent as our attack is often the best part of our play. Sutton and
Robins up front with Eadie or Ekoku just behind, Adams and Bowen free to take
the ball up the wings, Goss in the middle of midfield: how does this sound?

	5) Get rid of Robert Chase

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My reply :

1,3,5) Quit agree.  He is too much of a business man and does not really like
   football that much.  He gave an interview to a fnazine recently and he
   says that he used to stand in the Barclay ! (I'll post the interview soon)

2) Quite agree, the defensive is the real problem.  We have few defenders,
   most of whom have been injured recently.  We really need to buy some over
   the Summer.

4) Not so much of a problem as 2 !

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From: [email protected]

I've heard some rumour that Chase has said if Sutton goes he will go
too - is this right? If so will he (Chase) just be replaced with a
clone who'll continue to flog all the best players?

Pat

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My reply :

You heard correctly.  Sutton was on Anglia Sports yesterday (Sun) and was
being very vague about where he would be next year.  He kept saying "We'll
have to see what the Summer brings".  Rumours are about that he will be going
to the following clubs (in no particular order) : Tottenham, Arsenal, Man Utd,
Inter Milan, Newcastle, Blackburn, Everton (!).  I think that he will go but
I doubt that Chase will.  He'll worm his way out of the situaution as usual !

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From: Martin Stonebridge <[email protected]>

One thing you might want to add next time is 9/5/94 Jerry Goss testemonial
I believe vs Genoa. Evidently there was going to be an Ipswich vs Norwich
match at the end of the season for Mick Stockwell's testemonial but your
match with Genoa has put paid to that.
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NEXT GAME : Norwich City v Sheffield United (H)  23rd April 1994

Just one home game left after that, Oldham !  Norwich will however, be
involved in a very historical match.  Liverpool v Norwich in a few weeks time
is Liverpool's last home game of the season and the LAST time the kop will
be used !  Liverpool have asked Norwich fans to bring as many banners and flags
as possible and to make the game a real festival.
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    Q. WHERE WAS EKOKU BORN ?

>>> Q. WHERE WAS EKOKU BORN ?

He's in the squad for Nigeria isn't he ??? But I don't think he was born
there..!!


Tony

    Dunno exactly, But I know where he lives, I could go round and ask!
    
    Paul

    I think he was born in a hospital, but I'm not positive. I know where
    JBG lives, so I could go round and ask him, but I doubt that that would
    help ;-)
    
    Yours helpfully,
    
    Jerry.

Everton have been fined �75,000, and ordered to pay Norwich �50,000 
compensation, for poaching Mike Walker.  The total is the largest ever 
imposed by the FA (Chelsea were fined �105,000 for illegal payments to 
players or some such offence).  The Norwich chairman, Robert Chase, said he 
was happy with the decision, although he had claimed compensation of around 
�260,000 for points lost this season since Walker's departure!  How he came 
to this figure is anyone's guess, but the fact is we've won only once in 
the League since he left ... against Everton.

Jon

    
    Efan Ekoku was born in Manchester on June 8, 1967.
    
    (Source - World Soccer Magazine May '94 Edition)
    
    
    Jason

    
    Thanks......................CHRIS

Liverpool 0
Norwich 1

Norwich spoiled the party at Anfield by taking all three points, in the 
last game to be played in front of the Kop.  From the highlights on Match 
of the Day, Norwich could have won by a few more goals.  Jeremy Goss scored 
the only goal, a shot from just over 20 yards into the top right hand 
corner of the net.

Jon

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                       THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE KOP

I'm sorry  that this  edition of  the mailing has taken such a ling time to
arrive, but  due to  work and  health complications, I've been a little bit
busy lately  (I *hate*  coursework and  revision).   Anyway, since the last
mailing, Norwich  have shown  what an  inconsistent side  they are and what
varying performances they are capable of producing.

                    NORWICH CITY 0 - SHEFFIELD UNITED 1

Little can  and should  be said about this game.  The local press headlined
the match  on the  following Monday  as 'Firing  Blanks' and  they  weren't
wrong.

Put quite  simply, Sheffield  United went onto the pitch with fire in their
hearts and  wanting to  win.   Norwich went  onto the pitch knowing that to
them, this  match meant  very little and didn't seem to care one way or the
other as to the result.

Norwich were  unfortunate to see two goals be ruled out through offside but
really they deserved neither of them.

Chris Sutton  looked like  he had  already been signed by another club.  He
seemed unwilling  to put  in any effort and I didn't see him challenge for,
let alone win, a header all afternoon.  After Neil Adams had cleverly got a
free kick just outside the United box, he quickly passed the ball to Sutton
as the goalkeeper was still well off his line.  Sutton decided to be clever
and flick  the ball  into the net, instead hitting the woodwork.  He walked
away laughing.

The defence  looked more  vulnerable than ever.  It was seemingly incapable
of stopping any high balls, set pieces, corners etc etc etc.

The inevitable  came in  the 31st  minute when  Justine Flo  released  dane
Whitehouse on  the left  and Blake put away his cross from within a crowded
six yard box.

City would have lost by four or five if it were not for the fact that Bryan
Gunn was  having a good afternoon and that United's attack seemed unable to
finish.

After the  game, John  Deehan was disappointed with his teams' performance.
He said  that; "Our  performances over  the course of the whole season have
not been  convincing at Carrow Road.  that may be because we try to play an
open style of play that allows the opposition to play constructive football
as well.   I can't really put my finger on it.  We have got ahead on enough
occasions to  be able  to take  the game  by the scruff of the neck, but we
haven't done so.  Teams are enjoying playing against us at the moment"


                       LIVERPOOL 0 - NORWICH CITY 1

Carrow Road,  7.30 am  30th April  1994.   I got  on the  Club canary coach
agreeing with  many people  that this  game had a Liverpool win written all
over it.  With the bad run of Norwich and Liverpool playing their last game
against a terraced Kop, it seemed to be set up.  The morning papers did not
help.   Along with  their predictions of a heavy Liverpool win, they stated
that Norwich had agreed to let Liverpool kick towards the Kop in the second
half, regardless of who won the toss !

The numerous  coaches arrived  at Anfield many hours later.  We got off and
walked the  half mile  to the  ground.   I must  admit that I wasn't really
going to  see Norwich  play.  The result was, after all, unimportant as far
as the  Premier league was concerned, to both teams.  I had gone because of
the Kop.

We bought  our programmes and settled into our seats.  We caught the end of
a very  good kids  game.  I have seen some amazing kids games recently.  If
these kids  are allowed to develop to their full potential, we are going to
have some  *very* good  football in this country in 10 years time.  Anyway,
some famous Kop heroes were introduced onto the pitch before the game.  the
likes of  Stubbins,  Liddell,  Callaghan,  Smith,  Thompson,  Heighway  and
Dalgliesh received cheers and applause from all parts of the ground.

Polston won  the toss for Norwich and played a small joke on Liverpool.  He
took the  ball and  started to  run towards the Kop end, only to turn round
and laugh at the amazed faces around him.  Maybe this wasn't going to be so
bad !

The game  started very  well for  Norwich.   In fact, the whole game, apart
from about  five minutes  of the  second half,  was controlled  by Norwich.
They actually looked like they wanted to win and it paid off.

In the  35th minute,  Jeremy Goss  got the ball 20 yards from goal, flicked
the ball  up and hit a spectacular volley into the top-right hand corner of
the net.....  at the  Kop end  !   The cheers  of the  Norwich support were
almost drowned  out by  the stunned  silence of  the Liverpool  supporters.
This wasn't in the script was it ?  These country bumpkins were here as Kop
fodder, nothing else right ? Wrong !

Even kicking  towards the  Kop in the second half, Liverpool were unable to
break their  duck.  The Norwich defence actually looked solid for once.  In
fact, Ekoku  should have  scored a  couple to make the win more convincing,
which Norwich really deserved.

Norwich :
Gunn,  Polston,   Prior,  Culverhouse,   Woodthorpe,  Bowen,  Goss,  Crook,
Ullathorne, Ekoku, Sutton.  Subs; Robins, Smith, Howie.

Liverpool :
James, Jones,  Nicol, Ruddock,  Dicks, Clough,  Redknapp,  Whelan,  Barnes,
Rush, Fowler.  Subs; Hutchison, Thomas, Grobbelaar.

So there we have it.  Norwich, a side capable of losing badly to relegation
contenders 1-0  at home, yet capable of beating Liverpool 1-0 at Anfield on
such an emotional day.

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Stewart,

I'm surprised a loyal fan like yourself didn't make the journey to Man City, but
I can give you a real review of the match because I did go (fair enough I only
had to walk about 10 minutes from my house)

>From the neutrals point of view this was a classic match, plenty of attacking
football, chances galore and poor defending. Norwich started out with a very
defensive formation (5 at the back) and for the first 15 minutes were more
than happy to soak up the pressure. Gunn was outstanding making a couple of
good saves, although he was rather lucky to see a shot rebound off his leg
and drift ever so closely past the past.

With their first real forage up front Norwich scored. Ullathorne had already
caught my eye as a good player (and he was also trying very hard) and he scored
a gem, with a low shot into the far corner. Sutton and Robins were involved in
the set-up play and it was the prefect breakaway goal. Boy, oh boy, were the
City fans I was with pissed off.

Deehan obviously said something to the team and Norwich changed formation at
this point reverting to a flat back four. This lead to a far more attacking
approach (and has to be commended).

City poured forward with attack after attack but Norwich probably had the best
chance of the first half to increase their lead when Sutton broke through,
one on one with Dibble. I'd have bet money on him scoring but it wasn't his
day as a good save from Dibble denied him.

Within a minute of the restart City drew level, Karl got in a cross from the
right and Rossler fired the ball high into the net. City were now fired up
but they couldn't produce the winning goal, with Gunn producing a fine
string of saves (including the superb one handed effort that everyone in the
press raved about). Norwich should have scored after about 60 mins when
Sutton again broke through but somehow he managed to miss.

Overall the match was brilliant, I thoroughly enjoyed it and a draw was a fair
result. I can't remember who Ekoku replaced upfront for the last 20 or so
minutes but he certainly looked better. Spencer Prior will always I believe
look a bit suspect, a good Div 1 player but nothing more.

Last comment must be about the 100 or so hardy soles from Norfolk who travelled
to the match. At the start of the 2nd half they lept into a rendition of
'Johnny Deehan's yellow and green army'. Excellent. It certainly pissed the
City fans off (who are one of the quietest set of supporters I know).

Bare in mind I support Ipswich Town and I can't stand Norwich so
my above report is a great compliment to the way Norwich play.


Martin

PS. Before anyone says Going Down, I know, but see you in 95 in Endsleigh
Division 1.

MY REPLY
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Thanks for the letter Martin.  I would have gone, but I don't think the
bank manager would have liked it !  See you in the Endsleigh soon !
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Stuart,

[Replying to recent letter in NCFC Mailing]

> Here are a few ideas/points for discussion (through this list) on how NCFC
> could start to achieve its full potential as a club. 

>       1) Get rid of Robert Chase

Disagree, reluctantly.

1. Club facilities.
Referring to the major improvements at Carrow Road. The ground has been
completely transformed into one of the best in the country. This was done
during the height of the property boom and so it must have taken a lot of 
money to do so. I think that it was money well spent, and I defy any 
supporter to argue against that. OK, I know other clubs have performed
similar feats, but you should see Selhurst Park, 2 minutes walk from my
home and then re-think. 
The club is currently building the best training facilities it can. I 
remember an interview given by Robert Chase after winning in Munich which
I read in the Daily Telegraph. He referred to the facilities which Bayern
had and said that what Norwich would build would be even better, or some
words to that effect. 

2. Players.
Whatever players Norwich have, they will obviously want paying. Norwich are
a small club with a relatively-low waged local populace from which to draw 
the bulk of their regular fans. As such, they have to keep their ticket
prices towards the lower end. Even so, they still manage very few full
houses at home games. This obviously reduces their ability to pay high
salaries to great players.  Robert Chase is aware that to survive as a club,
Norwich have to keep controls on their salary bill. If a serious offer is
made by a club for one of our players, AND that player feels that the move
would be good for them, it surely must be right to let that player go.
We can't compete in the salary stakes with clubs like Arsenal and Man Utd
who regularly get DOUBLE our attendances. Not only that, but the marketing
men with big sponsorship deals are only looking for players from the big
name clubs, since they are the clubs which feature the most on TV and in
newspapers. If a player wants fame AND fortune, he has to go to the bigger
clubs than Norwich, and inevitably he will go.
Youth team and schoolboy recruitment seems to have been working for many 
years now. The recent schoolboy home internationals televised on Sky
featured players already on Norwich's books. That must be good news for 
the future, although I can't personally attribute that to Mr Chase.

3. Manager
Ok, so we couldn't keep Mike Walker, but was John Deehan the right 
replacement? I think it was a rushed decision to give the job to JD
when we didn't even explore other options. However, continuity was what
all the fans wanted (in the absence of other outrageous options like sacking
Chase or bombing Goodison Park!). Yes, we cried foul! Yes, we called for 
Chase's head. But we weren't really disappointed that we gave it to JD 
were we? (Liverpool did the same!). What if Mr Chase had called a
meeting of the supporters club with a motion to raise ticket prices by some
amount in order to pay Walker the extra money he wanted? Ok, that might
have kept Mike Walker, but what would that have done when the next person's
contract was up for renewal. Mr Chase knows what the club can afford, he is
a businessman. He can't be blamed for Walker's departure, only for the
bitterness left behind by the manner in which it was handled. 


>       2) Sort our defensive formation out
 
[Re: Fjortoft's goal at Swindon]
Sorry to challenge you on this point, but as I remember it (I was there too)
it was a break on the Swindon right, the ball with Summerbee...
Culverhouse in a sweeper position had Fjortoft marked...
Before the ball was crossed into the box, Newman took over marking Fjortoft
and indicated to Culverhouse to close down Summerbee...
As Culverhouse moved towards Summerbee, the ball was crossed to the near post
whereby Fjortoft smartly nipped in front of Newman and beat Howie with his 
header just inside the post.
It wasn't a mix-up, it was organised. But Newman wasn't as good as 
Fjortoft in being aware of the possibilities and was basically asleep. I do
agree though that we have let in some soft goals. Le Tissier's trickle past
Gunn recently is a case in point. Our defenders should show a bit more 
professionalism and awareness of danger. All too often recently have we
just thrown ourselves at the ball only to have a quick one-two and the ball
in the net, beaten by ourselves!

I think we MUST have a sweeper! We need that extra security against a ball
beyond the defensive line. People were talking about Culverhouse playing as 
sweeper for England. OK, so that might be an exaggeration, but we must have 
been doing something right because we got the results to prove it.

>       4) Sort our midfield out

Don't play Megson! Do play Bowen in midfield!



[Other general observations and musings of my own...]

Ekoku needs ball control training. He may be quick, but unless he can control
the ball or we play to HIS strengths then he can't be given a place in the
first team, barring injuries.

Eadie, a great prospect, but we don't really have a position for him if we
play Bowen in midfield! Definitely good enough for sub though.

Sutton and Robins up front for sure! Ekoko for injury cover.

Goss, Crook, Adams and Bowen in midfield. Megson is good for entertainment
value only. It's fun to watch a game and see a player diving in all the time,
turn to your neighbour and say 'I bet that was Megson', only to find out it
was right! Heehee!

Culverhouse as sweeper! Say no more, transformed Norwich last year!

Buy 3 Italian central defenders! Or make do with what we've got. Our last
attempt to buy a defender (Prior) turned out to be a waste of money. Much
better to buy one from Italy where they only know how to defend!

'>>>Brian Gunn, Number 1 !!!<<<' (Say no more!)

Play a 1-3-4-2 formation as follows...
			 
			 *          Gunn
			 
			 *          Culverhouse
		      
		      *     *       Polston, Newman
			 *          Butterworth
		   
		   *           *    Adams, Bowen
			* *         Crook, Goss
		      
		      *     *       Sutton, Robins

If you can have a diamond-midfield, I'm patenting the diamond-defence!
(It even looks human too!)

Norwich can only survive by continuing to develop young talent, by playing
inventive entertaining football the way they have recently, and keep their
fans faithful. Obviously a few losses, and a lack of wins at home doesn't
help, but to be quite honest, Norwich should never really expect to be
higher than the top 10 teams in the Premier league, and certainly not 3rd
every year. If we buy players, we have to make sure that they will fulfill
a function in an overall game strategy. We should pick a system and stick
to it come hell or high water. Chopping and changing from game to game and
week to week only seems to muddy the water and confuse ourselves. By all
means look towards the coming opposition and adapt the strategy accordingly
but it should be worked on in training sessions so that everyone knows
what to do on the day. Injuries haven't helped us this year, but we still
have the same players that did so well for us last year (apart from Fox)
so we should stick to what we know. I think Fox had been playing poorly before
we sold him, and Adams looks to be at least as good. If we do buy players
in the summer, let's buy as carefully as we have done with Adams, Robins,
Ekoku and Howie, over the last three years, and sell as we have done with
Linighan, Fleck, Townsend, Bruce, Watson, Gordon, Fox, Woods, Fashanu (both),
and Phelan, and rake in the money! 

It's just a shame we couldn't have sold Walker to Everton as well!

Oh, and if we do sell Sutton, we should definitely buy another striker!
Preferably one who can hold the ball up, run off the ball, and finish as
well as Sutton too. Ummm, how about Alan Shearer? Or Les Ferdinand?
Is Marco Van Basten for sale? They do fly from Norwich to Amsterdam daily!
Could we get him for 6+ million? (Sutton's 4+ m + Fox's 2m profit).

Dave.
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Just how much is Chase paying you ? No, seriously, the rumour here is
that he wants a job on the FA committe and you can't do that and be a
chairman as it's against the rules.  He has said that if Sutton goes,
he goes.  I think that this Summer, Chase and Sutton will go.

SoundSillyButHintOfSeriousnessRumour :

Richard Branson has relatives out Norfolk way and he wants to buy a
team.  Rumours are that he would buy Norwich from Chase & Co !!

By the way, our defence IS usually crap.  At Liverpool, that stopped
trying to fart about with the ball in their own area, and they won !

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The new  strip will  be ready very soon. It is rumored that it will be worn
by the players for the Oldham game this Saturday.

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Norwich 1
Oldham 1

Oldham took the lead in the 14th minute.  Polston (I think) played a 
dreadful back pass to Gunn, who hit the ball against an Oldham attacker.  
From ther rebound, McCarthy scored.  Norwich seemed to improve in the 
second half, when Neil Adams came on as substitute (against his former 
team).  It was his cross which Robert Ullathorne volleyed in for the 
equaliser.

Jon

    Norwich lost 5-4 to Italian Serie A side Genoa in a testimonial
    match for Jeremy Goss.
    
    /Kev
    

    
    Don't be despondant, Genoa even beat Reading.
    
    Tony
    
    

Speaking to my stepfather on the phone last night, Norfolk village rumour has it that 
Sutton may be Man United bound. The figure being bandied about is an unbelievable �7M.

I find it hard to believe that this rumour is true and United wouldn't pay �7M for him
anyway.

Regards
Kevin

    re: .472 
    Kevin,
    
    the best thing about rumours is when you only get to hear half the stor
    figure it out from the words you can see because the author was a compl
    didn't realise that some people only have dumb VT 220 terminals and the
    off the screen.
    
    But if Chase is trying to get �7M from ManU for Sutton then I think it
    
    Cheers,
    
    Andy :-)

    And
    You're absolutely
    That's exactly the point I 
    
    Do

    >And
    >You're absolutely
    >That's exactly the point I 
    
    >Do
    
    Dom, to prevent this you have to type "set term /width=no_random"
    
    Hope this helps,
    
    Paul.
    

    
    in today's Scottish daily record it is rumoured that Glasgow Rangers
    are interested in Gunn after putting Goram on the transfer list.
    price quoted by Norwich was 
    
     �2 million..................who are they trying to kid........
    
     SQF Jambo #1 

Rangers!!

    .Re last few.
    
    This is probably just the papers comming out with idle speculation
    again i.e BULLMUD. Its a sure thing that now that the seasons ended
    the Daily Record (Rebel/Ranger, depending on which camp your in), and 
    the Sunday Mail etc, will have a different player signing for the 
    Rangers every week, full back page, I can exclusively reveal stuff ...
    
    i.e more BULLMUD......but it does sell papers, so whos to blame them.
    
    
    As far as the Gunn is concerned, the only reason that Rangers might buy
    him, is that he is Scottish .... not because of ability as he is 
    
     			CRAP ..... just my opin.
    
    Anyway whats this ridiculus 2M price tag, almost as funny as 7M for
    Sutton, good player though he is...... must be Joker this Norwich
    Chairman.
    
    Sandy

I was back in Norfolk over the weekend.  The rumours about Sutton and Gunn 
are still going strong, and Culverhouse may be on his way as well.  There's 
talk of getting Chris Woods back to replace Gunn.  This would be a mistake 
IMO - I rate Gunn much higher than "Lobber" Woods.

Norwich also had talks with Ray Wilkins before he signed for Palace.  
Norwich wanted him in just a coaching capacity, but he wants to continue 
playing as well.

Jon

Heard on the sports news at lunchtime that Norwich are set to sign the 
Oldham captain, Mike Milligan, for �1m.  It also said that we are selling 
the midfielder, David Smith, but I did not catch to whom or for how much.

Jon

Jon,

I think David Smith was off to Swindon.

/Kev

The Sutton rumours are going around again.  Man United are reported to be 
offering �5m, but Arsenal, Blackburn and Everton are all still interested 
(according to my 'paper).  That's a huge amount of money, which I think 
will be too tempting to refuse.  Norwich could build a whole team for that 
amount, together with the dosh from Fox's transfer.

Robert Chase has said that he hasn't spoken to Martin Edwards about Sutton, 
and will only do so after 4th July, which is presumably the end of the 
financial year for Norwich.  He also said that he still stands by his 
remark that if Sutton goes, he will go as well.  I haven't heard of any big 
money offers for him yet :-)

Jon

Norwich buy Jon Newsome from Leeds for 1 mill ??



GS in Dublin

    
    That can't be true? Newsome, �1m?? 1m lira more like, he's crap!
    
    If this is true it makes Robert Fleck at �2.3m seem like a shrewd
    purchase.
    
    Tony
    
    

It's true!  Is Newsome any good?

That's two defenders Deehan has bought just recently, both for �1m.  He's 
also said that he expects to make a few more signings before the start of 
the season.  This is most unusual for Norwich - most seasons they sign one 
or two unknown players from third or fourth division clubs.  I wonder why 
this money is now available.  Is this money that Norwich have got in the 
bank, or are they spending the money they expect to receive for Sutton?

Jon

    
    This will be deleted, but for those Norwich fans out there, I can say
    but one thing about John Newsome. He is shit.
    
    Tony
    
    

It's official - Chris Sutton is for sale.  Robert Chase has said that 
Sutton is for sale for �5m, as long as an offer is made by Wednesday, and 
the deal is completed by Friday.  If nothing is agreed by Friday, then 
he'll stay at Norwich.  Sutton said that he is happy to stay at Norwich if 
nothing is agreed.

I suppose Chase is doing this to end the uncertainty, and to get over with 
quickly so Norwich can concentrate on the new season knowing whether Sutton 
is playing for us or not.

Jon

    Jon,
    
    I understand that Chase flew into Liverpool airport and went on to meet 
    Robert Coar on Friday. Blackburn put a �5M bid on the table there and
    then and Chase said well lets see if anyone else can match it by 
    Wednesday. 
                                 
    As you say, its all supposed to be sorted by Friday which seems like a 
    sensible approach for all concerned but only leaves 2 days to sort
    personal terms. I think Chase realises he personally gets heavier flack 
    the longer it drags on.
    
    IMO: It would be great to see Sutton in the Blue and White because he's
    got loads of potential and looks a natural replacement for Mike Newell,
    but I wouldn't be particularly upset if he went elsewhere. 
    
    Cheers,
    
    Andy  

    guaranteed: If Sutton goes to Blackburn, he'll break a leg in his first
    training session and not play for the rest of the season B^)
    
    
    Rich.

Both Arsenal and Blackburn have agreed to pay the �5m asking price for 
Chris Sutton.  He is discussing 'personal terms' with both teams today.
Sutton was arrested the night before last after an 'incident' in a Norwich 
nightclub.  I don't know what happened, but the police have apparently said 
that the case is closed, and no-one will be charged.

Now that Sutton looks to be on his way, will Robert Chase keep his word and 
go as well?

Jon

Arsenal have pulled out of the race to sign Sutton, but have refused to say 
why.  The speculation is that they refused Sutton's wage demands of over 
�10000 per week.  Anyway, Blackburn are holding a press conference at 3pm 
this afternoon, when they are expected to announce that they have signed 
Sutton.

Jon

>why.  The speculation is that they refused Sutton's wage demands of over 
>�10000 per week.  

Yes, that'd be my guess. Contrast with Sutton's statement of the day before 
that he wanted to go somewhere to improve his football and money wasn't 
important.

Although maybe Arsenal wanted to play him at centre-half?

g

    Not that I'm one to cast dispertions, but the words Taxman, Bung and
    Prison spring to mind.
    
    Mike M

As expected, Sutton signed for Blackburn on Friday for �5m.  This smashes 
the domestic record transfer fee, but will it have a knock-on effect for 
other transfers?  I hope not, because the big clubs will just get bigger, 
to the detriment of the rest.

So where does this transfer leave Norwich?  Most of the money should be 
made available to Deehan to buy some class players.  He's already bought 
two defenders, so a goal-scoring striker to replace Sutton should be a 
priority.  The midfield could also do with strengthening.

And what will happen to Robert Chase?  He has stated on more than one 
occasion that if Sutton goes, he will go as well.  I wonder if there are 
budding Jack Walkers in Norfolk?

Jon

More transfer dealings at Carrow Road.  Colin Woodthorpe, a defender, has 
gone to Aberdeen for �400,000.

There are rumours that Norwich are trying to re-sign Robert Fleck.  This 
would be a bad move for Norwich, in my opinion.  He has never been a 
prolific goalscorer, especially in the last two years!!


Jon

    
    Hey, now listen! I have seen Robert Fleck score a goal for Chelsea
    in the last two years. I remember very well as after scoring he
    saluted the Shed and then jumped over the advertising boards...
    
    ...the game was against Walsall. In the league Cup. We were 4 - 0 up
    from the previous leg and erm..well...Fleck's goal was a penalty.
    
    Andy

Did Norwich actually sign Milligan from Oldham??

The EDP on Monday implied that Milligan and Newsome both had
games against Corby Town in a friendly which Norwich won 4-1.

I didn't see a post to say Norwich had actually signed him.

The EDP also commented that Deehan was due to go to Norway
scouting for players, prior to Norwichs pre-season tour to
Holland.

Regards
Kev

Hi Kev,

Yes, Milligan did sign a few weeks ago.  I think the fee is going to be 
decided at a tribunal.

I don't know who else is on Deehan's list.  I haven't heard anything else 
about Fleck.

Jon

20-Aug	Chelsea			A
24-Aug	Crystal Palace		H
27-Aug	West Ham United		H
31-Aug	Sheffield Wednesday	A
10-Sep	Arsenal			H
19-Sep	Ipswich Town		A
24-Sep	Manchester City		A
1-Oct	Blackburn Rovers	H
8-Oct	Leeds United		H
15-Oct	Aston Villa		A
22-Oct	Queens Park Rangers	H
30-Oct	Wimbledon		A
2-Nov	Southampton		A
5-Nov	Everton			H
19-Nov	Coventry City		A
26-Nov	Leicester City		H
3-Dec	Manchester United	A
10-Dec	Chelsea			H
17-Dec	Crystal Palace		A
26-Dec	Tottenham Hotspur	H
27-Dec	Nottingham Forest	A
31-Dec	Newcastle United	H
2-Jan	Liverpool		A
14-Jan	Wimbledon		H
21-Jan	Queens Park Rangers	A
25-Jan	Coventry City		H
4-Feb	Everton			A
11-Feb	Southampton		H
18-Feb	Leicester City		A
22-Feb	Manchester United	H
25-Feb	Blackburn Rovers	A
4-Mar	Manchester City		H
8-Mar	Sheffield Wednesday	H
11-Mar	West Ham United		A
18-Mar	Ipswich Town		H
1-Apr	Arsenal			A
8-Apr	Newcastle United	A
15-Apr	Nottingham Forest	H
17-Apr	Tottenham Hotspur	A
29-Apr	Liverpool		H
6-May	Leeds United		A
13-May	Aston Villa		H

The Sheffield United defender Carl Bradshaw has signed for Norwich for 
about half a million quid.  Does anyone know if he's any good?

That's three new signings so far - Newsome, Milligan and now Bradshaw.  I 
hope Deehan is going to get a striker as well before the start of the 
season.

Jon

    Both Newsome and Bradshaw used to play for Sheffield Wednesday AND were
    both born in Sheffield (tho I could be wrong about Newsome).
    
    I especially liked Bradshaw, but he must be getting on a bit now.
    You'll be after Imre Varadi next!
    
    Simon

If Deehan was looking for a striker why doesn't he approach Big Ron for
the services of Guy Whittingham??

/Kev

    
    Is Robins fit? 
    
    Tony
    
    

I'm not sure that Whittingham has got what it takes for the Premiership.  
He had some good seasons at Pompey, but never impressed for Villa.

Dunno about Robins - I've not seen any line-ups from the pre-season games.

Jon

Jon or anybody else out there,

Was Ian Culverhouse transferred??

I've just received the latest team photo from the EDP at home,
and the photo doesn't have Culverhouse on it. Now I was aware
that he and somebody at the club had a disagreement and he didn't
go on the tour to Holland, but I didn't know he'd left the club.

It's a blow if he has gone, because I thought he was one of 
Norwichs best players last season. He fitted in to the sweeper
scheme very well. Perhaps Walker bought him at Everton??

/Kev

Kev,

No, as far as I know Culverhouse is still at Norwich.

Deehan is still after a striker.  Names mentioned include Craig Brewster 
(Dundee United, I think) and Iain Dowie (Southampton).  I don't know much 
about Brewster, but I hope we don't sign Dowie - he's never impressed 
when playing for Southampton.

Jon

Chelsea 2
Norwich 0

A goal in each half was enough to beat Norwich.  The report in The Observer 
said that Norwich improved in the second half, with Ekoku having a good 
chance, but that Sutton was sorely missed.

From memory, the team was: Gunn, Bradshaw, Polsten, Newsome, Culverhouse, 
Newman, Goss, Crook, Ullathorne, Ekoku, Robins.

The Iain Dowie rumours still persist.  Dowie is still hopeful that the move 
can be agreed, with the fee being set at a tribunal.

Jon

Jon,

Culverhouse was absent from Saturdays squad.

/Kev

Kev,

Thanks for pointing out the error.  I don't have yesterday's 'paper listing 
the team with me, so I was trying to remember it off the top of my head!  
I'll check tonight for the proper line-up.

Jon

Chelsea		(1) 2	Norwich		(0) 0
Sinclair 43, Furlong 75

Chelsea: Kharine, Clarke, Kjeldberg, Johnsen, Sinclair, Furlong,
Peacock, Wise, Spackman, Shipperly, Rocastle.
Subs: Newton, Hoddle, Hitchcock.

Norwich: Gunn, Bradshaw, Bowen, Newsome, Polston, Newman, Goss,
Crook, Ullathorne, Ekoku, Robins.
Subs: Sutch, Adams, Howie.

Boy, did Deehan roll out the defensive unit for this match. No place
for either of Citys two wingers : Adams or Eadie. I see a long season
ahead.

The latest rumour off of CEEFAX is that Norwich are expressing an
interest in Brett Angell of Everton. Question is what price does
Walker place on Angells head?? �5M? ;-)

/Kev

Norwich 0
Palace 0

According to CEEFAX, only bad finishing and good goalkeeping by Martyn 
stopped Norwich from winning.  We hit the woodwork three times, but just 
couldn't score.

We have drawn Swansea in the Coca-Cola Cup.

Jon

Norwich		1 - 0 West Ham
Robins 64

Teams:

Norwich: Gunn, Bradshaw, Bowen, Newsome, Polston,
Adams, Goss, Crook, Ullathorne, Robins (s81), Ekoku (s62)
Subs: Marshall, Newman (81), Akinibiyi (62)


West Ham: Miklosko, Breacker, Burrows, Potts, Martin,
Allen, Bishop, Jones, Moncur, Rowland (s63), Marsh (s73)
Subs: Feuer, Chapman (63), Whitbread (73)

City signed Man. City striker Mike Sheron for �800,000
at the weekend.

Any comments from the Man. City fans on this guy??

/Kev

I'm not sure that Sheron is going to be the answer to our goal-scoring 
problems.  I don't think he scored too many goals last season, and could 
not get into the Man. City team at the start of this season.  He's played 
for England Under-21s.

It's my guess that Ekoku will be the player dropped to make way for Sheron. 
Apparently he missed at least 4 good chances against West Ham on Saturday.
He's got good pace, but his control and finishing is very average.

Jon

Another 0-0 draw last night, away to Sheffield Wednesday.  The reports I've 
read say that it was a very poor game.  The team was: Gunn, Bradshaw, 
Newsome, Polston, Bowen, Adams, Crook, Goss, Ullathorne, Akinbiyi (Sheron 
h/t), Robins (Newman, 80).

Jon

    MY GARDENER DOES EKOKU'S GARDEN AS WELL AND IS ABIG CITY FAN. HE ASKED
    EFAN IF HE WAS MOVING TO WIMBLEDON AND HIS REPLY WAS AN UNPRINTABLE NO
    AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO STAY HERE. I WONDER IF HE'LL CONTINUE TO SAY THAT
    IF HSERON GETS HIS PLACE REGULARLY.
    
    REASONABLY SOLID START TO THE SEASON DON'T YOU THINK
    
    PAUL

    Please don't SHOUT.
    
    Tony

What is going on???

Get Sutton back Norwich need a striker!!!

Another goalless draw. Norwich are getting as boring as Arsenal.
It's great if you were naive enough to pick Norwich defenders
for your fantasy League sides!!!

From the newspaper snippet yesterday, it looked like Deehan
played Rob Newman up front alongside Ekoku!!!

/Kev

    
    Kevin,
    
    It's not clear which is worse...a side that doesn't score but which
    also keeps the opposition at bay, or.....a side that seems to score at
    will, but which has a defense that resembles a sieve. (I think we both
    know which 2 of my teams we're talking about :-) :-)  )
    
    Cheers
    
    Mike

re: .519 (Mike Cassily)

>    It's not clear which is worse...a side that doesn't score but which
>    also keeps the opposition at bay, or.....a side that seems to score at
>    will, but which has a defense that resembles a sieve. (I think we both

From a fan perspective a side that can score would be a bonus. You're right
the Pats have both a team that can score and a team that can concede points.
Norwich at present have a side that can't score and a team that doesn't
concede goals.

Saturdays game:

Norwich		0 - 0	Arsenal

Norwich: Gunn, Bradshaw, Bowen, Newsome, Polston, Adams, Goss, Crook,
Ullathorne, Newman, Ekoku
Subs: Sutch (for Adams 63), Robins (for Ekoku 72), Howie

Stats: Shots on target 2, Shots off target 11, Corners 4,
Fouls Conceded 17, Offsides 1.


Arsenal: Seaman, Dixon, Winterburn, Keown, Adams, McGoldrick, Selley,
Schwarz, Wright, Parlour, Campbell
Subs: Smith (for McGoldrick 78), Linighan, Bartram

Stats: Shots on target 3, Shots off target 4, Corners 7,
Fouls Conceded 21, Offsides 2.

    Kevin
    I still think Norwich need anothwide midfielder to give them the outlet
    they need and the supply to the forwards. Adams doesn't seem to be
    doing much (has he scored yet?) and perhaps Akibiki or what ever it is,
    is a bit youthful as yet.
    Either way a wide player would help chage the angle of attack a bit.
    Perhaps Deehan should be more adventurous (if he manages to keep his
    job longer than the end of October).
    I'd hate to watching them at the moment!
    
    Who know's anything could happen! 
    I hear Enzo scifo might be on sale...
    
    Paul

From the clippings from the EDP (Eastern Daily Press) that I have
had posted up to me from Norfolk, it appears that Ian Culverhouse
and Norwich are still in negotiations over a new contract.
Culverhouse wants a 3 year contract with agreements on his testimonial
while Norwich are only prepared to offer him a two year contract.
For the present he is playing in the reserves, but even commented
that he thought it would be difficult to regain his first team
place even if he finally agreed a new contract with the club.
I personally think he deserves better than this given his performances
last season.

In another clipping, there was also some suggestion that Chase
might consider floating the club on the stock market to raise
some additional capital. The article suggested Norwich had made
pre-tax profits of some �863,000 which excluded the sale of
Sutton to Blackburn.

/Kev

    what do Norwich need the extra capitasl for? Isn't their ground already
    all-seater?
    
    You don't need capital to sell player?
    
    --Ian

Ian the ground hasn't been fully renovated yet. There is
still the South Stand and East Stand(?) to rebuild. The ground
is as you state all-seater, however, the South stand is still
in its original state. I believe the intention is to build a
stand similar to the stands already erected at the River and
Barclay ends of the stadium.

In addition, the article alluded to the fact that the money
raised may also be used to re-structure the wage structure
in place at Norwich!!! Shame that we have to lose Fox, Sutton
and Walker before any wage restructuring takes place.

/Kev

Ipswich		1 - 2	Norwich
Wark (pen)		Newman
			Bradshaw

Norwich team:
Gunn, Bradshaw, Bowen, Polston, Newsome, Milligan,
Crook, Goss, Adams, Newman, Sheron
Subs: Eadie (for Crook), Ekoku (for Sheron)

Well a win is a win. By all accounts the woodwork worked
against both teams with shots hitting the bar and post
and staying out. Citys winner was through a dubious penalty
decision, awarded by the linesman rather than the referee.
Forrest saved the first kick but Bradshaw followed up and
knocked it home.

By all accounts the weather was appalling and the rain
was washing away the lines marked on the pitch.

/Kev

    
>>    By all accounts the weather was appalling and the rain
>>    was washing away the lines marked on the pitch.
    
    	What lines??? They went into deep discussion on this subject on
    Sky. During half time the Ipswich groundsman was out trying (in vain)
    to mark the lines. The weather was very bad, but the lines were
    non-existant from the start and this didn't help. I missed the Ipswich
    pen. but the Norwich one was very borderline - Andy Gray was convinced
    the contact was outside the box. It was not so clear as that in the
    Leeds - ManU game recently.
    
    JBG
    

Last nights result from the Coca-Cola Cup.

Norwich		3 - 0	Swansea
Sheron
Bradshaw (pen)
Newman(?)

Kev,

Adams got the third, not Newman.

Jon

Boo Hiss...

SERWANZEEEE!

Norwich put out a good team then, did they?

Man City 2
Norwich 0

Not much to say about this one - Norwich only had one decent shot (Newman), 
and the defeat would have been heavier if Gunn hadn't saved a penalty.  
Again Robins was on the bench while Newman started as a striker - I don't 
understand this.  I know Robins hasn't been prolific since joining Norwich, 
but he is definitely better than Newman (who played in defence last 
season).

Jon

This was pulled from the latest NCFC electronic mail shot.

http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/Recreation/Sport/ncfc/NCFC.HTM

Regards
Kev

    I was at the Swansea match and Robins put in a awful performance. He
    looked lethargic, slow of the mark with brain and legs. And this was in
    a match where he ought to have shone!
    I don't like Newman up front either, but he was better than robins in
    the Ipswich match. We are still very very lightweight upfront and need
    someone who can score. Sheron seems to be finding his feet, but we aint
    performin' like we should be!
    I would like to see us buy another midfielder (Crooky aint goin on
    forever and looks destined for a coaching job) and for sure another
    goalscorer. Adams is capable of good supply but with two legless dwarfs
    (and i'd add Eadie to that list as well) we aren't exactly going to be
    knocking them in with our heads are we!
    
    God help us when we come up against Newcastle and their likes!
    
    paul

Norwich 2
Blackburn 1

A surprising victory for Norwich.  After last Tuesday's debacle, I thought 
Blackburn would want to take out their frustrations against Norwich.  
Sutton scored first for Blackburn after only 4 minutes.  Bowen scored the 
equaliser - he passed to Ekoku (I think), but then slipped over.  Ekoku 
passed it back to Bowen, who picked himself up and shot past Flowers. The 
winning goal was even more comical - Jon Newsome beat Hendry in the 
penalty area, then as he went to cross the ball he slipped, causing the 
ball to loop over Flowers into the net.  According to the report in the 
'paper, Polston and Crook were outstanding for Norwich.

Jon

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                 CITY HAPPY ON THE RETURN OF CHRIS SUTTON
                                     
                    NORWICH CITY 2 - BLACKBURN ROVERS 1

It was  the big  news story over the Summer in Norwich.  In fact it was the
big National soccer story over the Summer.  Norwich fans had seen it coming
for miles  and it  was made  more inevitable  when  Robert  Chase  said  it
wouldn't happen.   Chris Sutton was snapped up for 5 million by the cheque
book of Jack Walker and he became a Blackburn Rovers player.

That meant  the inevitable  grudge game.   It  was like  the return of Mike
Walker last  season.  The fans were pumped up and so were the players, that
time ending  in a  3-0 City  win.  But hang on a minute, this is Blackburn,
they're a  good side,  even if  it is only because of Jack Walker's bulging
wallet.

Chris received  a warm reception, shouts of "Super Chrissy Sutton" from the
Barclay End,  even though  he had said to the press before the game that he
was certain that he would score.

The first  15 minutes  or so  proved not  to be the best in City's history.
The defence looked ragged, the midfield incapable and the attack was lousy.

It was not really a surprise when in the fourth minute Chris Sutton got his
goal, slipping the ball past Bryan Gunn after shrugging off Jon Newsome.

Every City  fan sat in their seat and wondered how many it was going to be.
Another 7-1 ?  Would we get the 1 this time ?  When's the next bus home ?

After about  20 minutes  Norwich suddenly  woke up  and started to push the
ball about  a bit.  Crook and Eadie were magnificent, moving the ball about
superbly.   Tim Flowers  just managed to keep out a Crook curler and a good
Crook corner was wasted by Efan Ekoku (again).

City's first goal came after 30 minutes.  Ian Crook again provided a superb
ball that  Bowen headed down for Ekoku, which he duly miscontrolled.  Bowen
was up like a flash and hit a low drive which went in off Hendry's knee.

Some would  say that  City's second in the 55th minute was lucky.  Lucky it
may have  been, but also deserved.  Jon Newsome decided to strut his stuff,
flying past  Le Saux,  Sherwood and  Hendry and  then provided  a wonderful
miss-hit shot which looped over Flowers and into the net.

City then  kept out Blackburn with style.  In fact they were unlucky not to
win by more, Polston inches away from his first goal of the season.

The game  had the  best atmosphere so far this season with the high spirits
occasionally reaching  the players  and staff.   Polston  left Sutton  in a
crumpled heap  on the  ground at  the end of the first half and Gary Megson
and Ray Harford, he assistant managers, had a frank exchange of words after
Bradshaw's booking for chopping down Le Saux after 82 minutes.

Perhaps the  funniest moment  of the  afternoon was  when Blackburn  won  a
corner in  the second  half.   The ball rolled behind the goal line and the
ball girl,  who couldn't  have been more than 10, picked the ball up.  Alan
Shearer ran towards her to get the ball, which she duly threw towards Bryan
Gunn (good  girl).  Gunn and Shearer struggled and the ball bounced back to
the ball  girl who  duly picked  it up  again and  shook off a challenge by
Shearer, throwing it to Gunn.  Shearer was not impressed :-)

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                                MATCH FACTS

NORWICH :
Gunn, Bradshaw, Bowen, Newsome, Polston, Adams, Crook, Ekoku, Milligan,
Newman, Eadie.  Subs; Robins (74), Goss (88), Howie (GK NU)
BLACKBURN :
Flowers, Berg, Le Saux, Warhurst, Hendry, Sherwood, Atkins, Ripley, Sutton,
Shearer, Wilcox.  Subs; Slater (63), Pearce (NU), Mimms (GK NU)
GOALS :
Blackburn; Sutton (4)
Norwich; Bowen (30), Newsome (55)
BOOKINGS :
Blackburn; Sherwood (20)
Norwich; Polston (45), Bradshaw (82)
REFEREE :
P Jones (Quorn)
ATTENDANCE : 18,146
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Norwich lost 1-0 away at Swansea last night in the League Cup, but go 
through 3-1 on aggregate.

Jon

Away to Tranmere in the next round of the League Cup.

    
    When've Norwich got Swansea?  Is it tonight?
    
    (Norwich 3-0 up on agg.)

    
    Matt,
    	you missed it mate. The Swans beat 'em 1:0 at the vetch on Tuesday.
    
    JBG

NO WAY!  YOU'RE KIDDING!

    
    Matt, would I kid you? 

yup.

Well, if it's true.....

I'm just popping over to the SCFC topic....

Norwich 2
Leeds 1

This victory moves us up to 8th in the League.  Our home form has 
definitely improved this season (we only won 4 at home last season).  
Norwich opened the scoring, with Robins heading in a Bowen cross from the 
left.  Leeds were awarded a penalty when Newman was adjudged to have 
handled the ball.  McAllister shot to Gunn's left, but he got across well 
to save it.

With just a minute to go Leeds scored an equaliser (Wallace, I think), but 
there was still time for Norwich to get a winner.  Robins crossed from the 
right and Adams headed in unmarked.  Deehan was reported as saying in 
yesterday's 'papers that this was the best Norwich performance since he 
took over as manager.

Jon

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                       TENSION REIGNS AT CARROW ROAD

                      NORWICH CITY 2 - LEEDS UNITED 1

City won  their second home game in a row in spectacular style and by a 2-1
scoreline.  The team looked more settled and balanced than usual with Ekoku
seemingly dropped after his recent dire performances.  Sheron and Robins up
front looked  like a  good partnership  and it  was backed  up by a quality
midfield and a defence that is more solid than it has been for years.

The first  half, however,  did  not  provide  the  entertainment  that  was
expected of  it.  It seemed that both sides were still being cautious after
bad Coca  Cola results  during the  week.  Norwich had lost to Swansea, but
gone through  3-1 on  aggregate and Leeds had been knocked out by Mansfield
Town.  A few defensive errors by both sides were not picked up.

The major  talking point  of the  first half was when Rob Newman slipped in
his own box and fell on the ball with his arm.  A penalty was awarded which
Gary McAllister stepped up to take.  Bryan Gunn looked confident and tipped
away the ball with an impressive looking leap.

Milligan was  stretchered off  after 28  minutes and  Newsome was taken off
early in the second half with a back injury.

At the  break, the  score was  0-0 and most people in the crowd anticipated
that it would stay that way.  How wrong we were !

In the  61st minute  Norwich took  the lead  when Mark  Robins put  away  a
fantastic pass  from Bowen.   This  goal sparked a mass of activity by both
sides but it was not until the 89th minute that the next goal came.

With one minute to go, it looked set for three Norwich points.  Rod Wallace
, however, had other ideas when he put away a cross from Gary Speed who had
got the better of Goss on the left.  All of City's good work seemed to have
been undone  and both  the crowd  and the  team thought that two points had
been dropped.

Two minutes  into injury  time, a  Goss throw  near the  corner flag  found
Robins who  delivered the  perfect cross  to Adams  who's downward directed
header found  the net.   The  final whistle  went a  few seconds  after the
restart and Norwich had all three points.

NORWICH :  Gunn, Bradshaw,  Bowen, Newsome, Newman, Adams, Crook, Milligan,
Eadie, Sheron, Robins.  SUBS : Goss (28), Prior (56), Marshal (GK NU)

BOOKINGS : Newman (60), Bradshaw (67)

LEEDS :  Lukic, Kelly,  Dorigo, Wetherall, Palmer, McAllister, Worthington,
Speed, Wallace,  Deane, Whelan.   SUBS  : Pemberton  (69), Fairclough (81),
Beeney (GK NU)

BOOKINGS : Whelan (46), Palmer (46), Deane (69)
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                          RADIO CANARY ON THE AIR

For the  last two  home games,  Radio canary  has  been  broadcasting  from
studios in  Carrow Road.  A new venture by the club, it provides full match
commentary and  a whole  day of  football chat  on home  match  days.    It
broadcasts on 1602 MW and can be picked up anywhere within 5 miles or so of
Norwich.   It boasts  interviews with the chairman, manager and players and
live broadcasts of the press conferences.
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                          NEWS FROM THE CHAIRMAN

Robert Chase  was interviewed on this Saturdays Radio Canary and gave a few
interesting answers.   He  re-emphasized his  three point  strategy.   That
strategy is  1) To  balance the books, 2) Bring the ground up to a suitable
standard, 3)  To win something.  He stated that the club is still somewhere
between stages  two and  three.   A new South Stand was also discussed.  He
stated that  the present  South Stand may be declared unsuitable for use by
the local  authorities, in  which case  somewhere between 4 and 5 million
would be  spent on a new stand which would bring the capacity of the ground
up to  around 25,000.   He  did say,  however, that this stand would not be
built until the present stand was declared unsuitable.

He also  continually mentioned  his hopes  for a  good cup  run,  obviously
realising that the best the club can hope for in the league is to finish in
the top  half of the table.  With the likes of Manchester United, Newcastle
United, Blackburn  Rovers and  Liverpool all  looking good  this season, it
looks unlikely that City could even qualify for Europe.

Personally, I think that if Robert Chase continues his policy of charging a
minimum of  10 per  game, there is no way that Norwich could fill a 25,000
seat stadium, especially for the larger games which Robert Chase has costed
at 15  per seat.   The average attendance so far this season in the league
is just  over 18,000,  so there  are already  3,000 or so seats empty every
game.
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                     Norwich are now 8th in the league
                                     
                         OTHER PREMIERSHIP RESULTS

                         Newcastle 1    Blackburn 1
                         Chelsea   4    Leicester 0
                         Liverpool 3    A Villa   2
                         Man City  3    N Forrest 3
                         Norwich   2    Leeds     1
                         Sheff W   1    Man Utd   0
                         S'pton    2    Everton   0
                         Spurs     1    QPR       1
                         West Ham  1    C Palace  0
                         Wimbledon 1    Arseanl   3
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LATEST NEWS



AUCTION FEVER AT CARROW ROAD AS EKOKU LEAVES

Efan Ekoku has been sold to Wimbledon for 1 million pounds. Ekoku has had a
bad season and had not hit the mark, his confidence visibly lacking. As well as
this move, reserve keeper Scott Howie has been sold to Motherwell and Ian
Culverhouse is rumoured to be on shopping lists of other clubs. 


NORWICH DRAW TRANMERE ROVERS IN THE CUP

Norwich have draw Tranmere Rovers in the third round of the Coca Cola Cup.
The two sides have NEVER met in a domestic cup tie and last met in the league
in 1959, so it's a bit of a trip into the unknown. Tranmere are not a bad side,
especially in the cu p. They just missed out on reaching the final last year, and are
pushing for promotion to the premier league. Neil Adams played for Oldham
against Tranmere last year and was on the wrong end of a 3-0 scoreline, and he's
determined not to let it happen a gain. 


CHEAP TICKETS FOR STUDENTS !

Get a star passport for �1 and get into any category B game for �5 rather than
�10. The passports are available to the unemployed, people on state benefit, on
government training programmes, claiming family credit, retired, disabled,
full-time students o r their dependants. The passport is also an automatic
membership of the club, which usually costs �10.

This comes after a council committee claimed that football was too expensive
and that it was no longer a working class sport.



NORWICH SCRAPE THROUGH THE CUP

Norwich scraped through the second round of the Coca Cola Cup, although they
lost 1-0 to Swansea City in the second (away) leg. It was a poor performance
from City and Gary Megson, now assistant manager, didn't hide the fact that he
wasn't happy, "If we play like we did tonight gain, we won't be going any further."
Norwich managed only two shots on target and the attack again looked
unimpressive.



NCFC TO GO PUBLIC ?

Speculation continues as Robert Chase has said that he would like to put
Norwich on the stock exchange by Christmas. This would put Norwich alongside
Manchester United and Tottenham as footbaling PLC's. 

Back to the Main page 

NCFC WWW by Stewart Bamford - [email protected]

I am not too unhappy about Ekoku leaving Norwich.  He's never been a 
consistent goalscorer.  His great asset is his pace, but his ball control 
and finishing is very poor.  But he is still the only player to score 4 
goals in a Premiership match.

I doubt whether Deehan will use the money to buy a replacement.  The 
youngster Akinbiyi may now get a chance to establish himself in the team.

Jon

    Deehan is quoted in the press stating that they already have enough
    quality strikers at the club which is the reason that Ekoku was
    released. Presumably Chris Sutton was released for the same reason (or
    was it greed?) and we can therefore expect Norwich to embark on a 30
    game unbeaten run, scoring over 200 goals in the process. Best they
    hand over the championship and all the other trophies now and call a
    halt to the season to save the other premiership teams the
    embarrassment of being also-rans 8-)
    
    Stuart
    

Villa 1
Norwich 1

A good result for Norwich, considering we had a couple of players out 
injured (Goss, Polston).  Norwich took the lead after a goalmouth scramble 
in which both Eadie and Sheron hit the woodwork when it looked easier to 
score.  Milligan finally forced the ball into the net.  Villa equalised 
soon after through Saunders.  After this most of the pressure came from 
Villa, but they could not break down the Norwich defence.

Jon

    Deehan came out with a classic about the Norwich goal. He said that it
    was good when someting came off during the match that had been
    practised in training. For those of you who didn't see it the ball
    ricocheted around the Villa six yard box like a pin-ball, hit the bar
    twice and the bar once before going in.
    
    Paul.
    

    
    Who are we to mock.....maybe they've been training on pin-ball
    machines! In any case it sounds suspiciously like the way Jerry plays
    pool! 8-)
    
    JBG

Yes, Norwich are making a habit of these "unorthodox" goals.  (Remember 
Newsome's classic against Blackburn.)  Perhaps it is all part of Deehan's 
masterplan. :-)

Jon

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                          THE CONSISTENT CANARIES

                      ASTON VILLA 1 - NORWICH CITY 1

With better  home form  so far  this season and a reasonable placing in the
league, the  away game  at Villa  park  was  a  real  tester  for  Norwich,
especially as Villa would be wanting to improve on a recent bad run.

The first  half was, as expected, a low key affair.  Norwich were their new
defensive selves  and Villa  did little except miss in the 40th minute when
Dalian Atkinson  made a  fantastic 40  yard run and a near post header from
Dwight Yorke was well saved by Bryan Gunn.   Mike Sheron nearly scored, but
his 25  yard effort  was tipped  away by  Mark Bosnich 5 minutes before the
break.

After the break the game awoke.  City scored first with a bizarre goal that
some players  from both sides will want to forget.  Mark Robins crossed the
ball and  Bosnich woke  up too late to stop it, missing completely.  Darren
Eadie found  himself three yards out with a clear goal, but somehow managed
to top  the ball  and hit  the post.   The  ball rebounded for Sheron to do
exactly the  same to  he underside  of the  bar.  The ball came back out to
Robins who  chipped the  ball back  in to the box for Mike Milligan to head
into the net.

The equalizer  came in  the 51st  minute when  Gary Parker crossed the ball
from the  right Dean  Saunders darted  through the  six yard  box and put a
header away.

The home  crowd were  now well behind their team and most people would have
backed Villa  to gain  three points  from their  position.    However,  the
Norwich defence is made of sterner things these days and the last half hour
was a  good test.  Villa had a few good chances including a downward header
from Yorke  three minutes into injury time which hit the inside of the post
and was  spinning towards  the goal before Mark Bowen cleared it to safety.
The game ended 1-1 and to be honest, it was a good result for the Canaries.

FACTS :

NORWICH: GUNN, BRADSHAW, BOWEN, NEWMAN, PRIOR, EADIE, ADAMS, CROOK,
MILLIGAN, ROBINS, SHERON.
SUBS: AKINBIYI (60), WRIGHT (74), MARSHALL (GK NU)

ASTON VILLA: BOSNICH, BARRETT, STAUNTON, McGRATH, EHIOGU, KING, YORKE,
RICHARDSON, PARKER, SAUNDERS, ATKINSON.
SUBS: HOUGHTON (72), WHITTINGHAM (72), SPINK (GK NU)

                    VILLA          NORWICH
SHOTS               18             9
ON TARGET           7              4
OFF TARGET          11             5
CORNERS             10             6
FOULS COMMITTED     7              7
OFFSIDES            6              8
BOOKINGS            1              1 (BOWEN)

ATTENDANCE : 22,468

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 10 Agility(/100):
 11 Bravery(/100):
 12 Handling(/100):
 
 13 Influence(/100):
 14 Temperament(/100):
 15 Overall ability(/100):
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If the player is a keeper, don't bother with parts 4-9
if the player is outfield, don't bother with parts 10-12

Ratings range from 100-world class to 1-useless
Temperament 100-madman to 1-cool guy

email me your ratings in any form, most convenient for
yourself. Do not post here.
I welcome comments, questions whatever.

Loads of thanks to people who have already replied, and
to those of you who do in the future.

Tara,

Dave "...my parents are coming round to tea!" Powner
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Thanks for the help, tara,
Dave Powner
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                          CULVERHOUSE TO RETURN ?

The currently out of contract Ian Culverhouse may be returning with Carl
Bradshaw now out with a knee ligament injury caused when he lost his
footing and slipped passing a ball.
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Norwich 4
QPR 2

This makes it 10 points from the last four games, and consolidates our 
position at 6th.  QPR controlled most of the first half, but Deehan's 
half-time talk woke up Norwich.  They scored three times soon after the 
break - Robins, Bowen and Sheron getting the goals.  The fourth goal was an 
own-goal by Devon White.

Jon

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                              EASY FOR EADIE

                  NORWICH CITY 4 - QUEENS PARK RANGERS 2

Many at  Carrow Road  had watched  his progress through the lower ranks and
were looking forward to his arrival in the first team.  He took many others
by surprise.

Darren Eadie is 19 years old and already an England Under 21 player.  He is
set to become the next big name at Carrow Road, but against QPR, he was the
big name.

The game  against QPR was already won according to many, but the first half
made it look like it wasn't the Canaries' day.

Johnny Wright  was playing at right back for the injured Carl Bradshaw.  He
looked inexperienced  and the  rest of  the defence was having to cover for
him.   This meant that the side was not pushing forward like it should have
been.   Wright went off after 22 minutes with an injury and was replaced by
Rob Newman,  more of  a central defender which left the entire Norwich side
out of  balance with  John Polston  moving to  right back.   QPR scored two
minutes after  the departure  of Wright  and it  was a deserved lead at the
time, Simon  Barker heading  home from  close range after a QPR attack that
came from a throw in.

QPR could  have gone  further ahead  a few  times, if  it were  not for the
goalkeeping skills  of Bryan  Gunn.   The only  real Norwich  threat of the
first half came from Eadie who had a shot saved after 33 minutes.

City tried  the tactical move of switching Darren Eadie and Neil Adams late
in the first half, with Eadie going down the right and Adams going down the
left.   This is what used to happen when people like Ruel Fox were still in
the side and it just didn't work, Neil Adams really is a deep right player.

During the  break, John  Deehan and  Gary Megson must have given the side a
real roasting as they came out with all guns blazing.

The second  half started with Eadie and Adams back in their normal position
and within  two minutes  of the  second half starting, Darren Eadie got the
ball and started what was to be the first of many amazing runs past the one
time England defender David Bardsley.  He then flew by Ian Holloway and had
a good  shot parried  by Dutch  keeper Sieb Dykstra, which left the ball at
the feet of Mark Robins to put away for the equaliser.

Bardsley really  was suffering  at the hands, or rather the feet, of Darren
Eadie, and  he was  made to  pay for  his frustration  in the  54th minute.
Another Eadie  run had left Bardsley nowhere and he chopped down Eadie from
behind.   This earned  himself a  yellow card and Norwich a free kick.  Ian
Crook took  the kick and curled the ball to Mark Bowen who stabbed the ball
into the net to put Norwich ahead.

Norwich went  further ahead  when Eadie  easily went past White and crossed
low for  Sheron to  put away his first league goal for Norwich.  58 minutes
gone and  City were  3-1 up.   Surely things would calm down and City would
have three points.  No way.

QPR made  a huge  effort and in the 61st minute Holloway's pass left Newman
stranded and Kevin Gallen lobbed the ball over a stranded Gunn.  There were
a few worried faces amongst the Norwich support, but they were put right 60
seconds later  when a  low Robins  cross was put away by White into his own
net.

Sheron and  Robins could  both have done better with headers after this and
Gunn made a fantastic save in the 77th minute, tipping a Bradley Allen shot
over the bar.  Final score 4-2 and another three points in the bag.

Eadie received  Man of  the Match for his amazing performance that was only
lacking a  goal for  himself.   He will  surely become another of the great
players to  begin at  Carrow Road,  let's just hope we can keep hold of him
for a few years yet !

MATCH FACTS :

NORWICH : GUNN, WRIGHT, BOWEN, POLSTON, NEWSOME, ADAMS, CROOK, MILLIGAN,
EADIE, ROBINS, SHERON. SUBS: NEWMAN (22), GOSS (90), MARSHALL (GK NU)

QPR : DYKSTRA, BARDSLEY, WILSON, YATES, McDONALD, MEAKER, HOLLOWAY, BARKER,
WHITE, GALLEN, SINCLAIR. SUBS: ALLEN (75), MADDIX (NU), ROBERTS (GK NU)

               NORWICH   QPR
SHOTS          12        16
ON TARGET      6         8
OFF TARGET     6         9
CORNERS        11        5
FOULS CONCE.   5         15
OFFSIDES       2         0
BOOKINGS       1         3
SENT OFF       0         0

REFEREE : M. REED

ATTENDANCE : 19,431
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                    STRIKING PROBLEMS AT CARROW ROAD ?

Despite a  4-2 win  and a  brilliant performance  by Darren Eadie, it still
appears to  me that  Norwich are  lacking in the centre up front.  With the
likes of  Sutton and Ekoku gone, there is no target man up front, and it is
something that the side seems to be having to coming to terms with.

Sheron, Robins  and Eadie  are all  good players, but they all tend to play
wider and  move in  when they  have the  ball.   Perhaps it is time to give
players like Ade Akinbiyi a chance ?

It was interesting to note in John Deehan's programme notes that he thought
he  was   "dispensing  with   players  that   I  believe  were  surplus  to
requirements" and  that "I  believe we  were well  enough  covered  in  the
striking department  to accept  Wimbledon's bid".   It's true to say that I
didn't rate  Ekoku much,  but we  will have  to see if Norwich now have the
firepower up front for the rest of the season !
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                            FA PREMIER RESULTS

                    ARSENAL   2    COVENTRY  1
                    BLACKBURN 2    MAN UTD   4
                    CHELSEA   2    IPSWICH   0
                    A. VILLA  0    N FORREST 2
                    C. PALACE 1    EVERTON   0
                    LIVERPOOL 3    WIMBLEDON 0
                    MAN CITY  5    TOTTENHAM 2
                    NEWCASTLE 2    SHEFF WED 1
                    NORWICH   4    QPR       2
                    WEST HAM  2    SOUTHMPTN 0
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    Coca-Cola Cup Third Round
    
    Tranmere 	1 - 1 Norwich
    Aldridge	      Polston
    
    The draw seems to have given the winners a home tie against
    Notts. County in the 4th round.
    
    /Kev

City result from yesterday:

Wimbeldon	1 - 0 Norwich
Ekoku

Who else would score against City but the player they've just
sold??

/Kev

I saw the game yesterday on Sky.  It was a poor game, played in torrential 
rain.  Norwich spent most of the first half defending Wimbledon's high 
balls into the penalty area.  Despite the pressure, Wimbledon did not 
create any good chances.  At the other end, Ade Akinbiyi could have scored 
a couple, but his control let him down.  Late in the first half, Ullathorne 
went off with concussion after colliding with Polston.

Norwich started the second half in a much more positive manner.  Gayle had 
gone off for Wimbledon at half time, which seemed to lessen the threat up 
front.  However, Wimbledon scored the only goal after 63 minutes.  Ekoku 
ran through a square Norwich defence, and rounded Gunn before shooting in 
from a narrow angle.  After this Bowen had a shot which was well saved by 
Segers, but Norwich were too lightweight in attack to create any other good 
chances.

Overall, Norwich battled well, but we need some more bite in attack. 
It was a fairly inexperienced team, with Robins, Bradshaw, Newsome 
and Eadie all absent.  Akinbiyi is young and inexperienced, and Sheron does 
not look like he'll be a consistent scorer.  But one area which has 
improved this season is the defence - they looked very solid, until Ekoku 
raced past them for his goal.

Team: Gunn, Bowen, Sutch, Polston, Prior, Ullathorne (Crook, 40), Milligan, 
Goss, Newman, Sheron, Akinbiyi (Adams, 60)

Southampton 1
Norwich 1

We almost scored our second away victory of the season, but a penalty in 
the last minute gave Southampton a point.  Spencer Prior allegedly handled 
a LeTissier free-kick, and LeTissier himself scored the penalty.  It was 
described in today's Independent as a "controversial penalty".  Norwich had 
taken lead after 49 minutes, thanks to a great individual effort by Mark 
Robins.  Newman went off with a badly gashed leg.

Team: Gunn, Polston, Newman (O'Neill 55), Prior, Bowen, Adams, Crook, 
Milligan, Goss, Robins, Akinbiyi (Sutch, 45)

Norwich 0
Everton 0

By all reports, one of the worst Permiership games this season.

    Surely it can't have been worse than the match at Highbury! A match
    report please 8-)
    
    

    
    See 35.l

Last nights Coca-Cola Cup result:

Norwich		4 - 2 Tranmere
Prior		      Irons
McGreal o.g.	      Nevin
Polston
Another?

This leaves the Canaries with a home tie against Notts. County in
the next round.

/Kev

Or, as they said on Carlton last night:

This leaves the Canaries with a VERY ATTRACTIVE home tie against Notts. County
in the next round. 

I didn't know Rob Anderson was a TV commentator?!

g

The score-line doesn't tell the whole story of the game.  Tranmere were 1-0 
up at half time, and Norwich were playing very badly.  Tranmere got a 
second goal 5 minutes after the restart, and looked like cruising to 
victory.  But then Goss was brought on to replace Crook, and 10 minutes 
later Norwich were 3-2 ahead.  The final goal was scored with 5 minutes to 
go.

Jon