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49.1 | "Top of the league..." | AYOV27::OPS | A mans a man for aw that.. | Wed Aug 14 1991 19:21 | 18 |
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Here goes with the first note in the new conference.
Ayr are off to a good start in the league with 2 away wins in the last
couple of days. Due to being on holiday, I haven't yet seen the
new look team, even in friendlies but that will change when we play
Clydebank on Saturday at Somerset. (mind you, I'll need some help in
identifying all the new players!!)
Nice to see our good neighbours from Devastation City getting off to a
good start with 1 point from 2 home games. Long may it continue.
ps Who was responsible for arranging the games at the begginning of
the season? It looks as if half the teams in the league started with
2 home games, the others obviously had 2 away games. Strange methinks.
Danny.
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49.2 | "impressive...." | AYOV27::DREES | | Wed Aug 14 1991 20:40 | 27 |
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Montrose 1 Ayr 3
An adequate performance against a team who will surely be playing
2nd Div football next season. Ayr dominated the first half and
should have been at least 2 up at half time. Over the 90 mins we
deserved our 3-1 victory.
Last nights team was : Duncan
Burley
Agnew
Furphy
Auld
McLean
Fraser
George
Bryce
Graham
Shaw subs. Smith, Kennedy
Good performances all round except Ally Graham who, as usual, moaned
from start to finish. Best performances came from Furphy, Shaw, Agnew
and man of the match Duncan George. The all round fitness was exceptional.
Lets hope for more of the same on saturday from the team at the top of
the table.
...Derek
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49.3 | The gap is growing.......!! | AYOV27::OPS | A mans a man for aw that.. | Mon Aug 19 1991 13:44 | 16 |
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AYR UNITED 3 Clydebank 0
Not a very impressive performance, but another 3 goals and 2 points
in the bag. Clydebank were pretty poor although they had a great chance
to level at 1-1, might of made it a different game.
Disappointed in Fraser(he's not a forward though) and McLean. Noticed
big Ally still can't keep his mouth shut and just get on with the game.
MOM - Duncan George.
Scorers - Bryce (penalty) Shaw (2).
Danny.
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49.4 | | AYOV18::DREES | | Tue Aug 20 1991 13:59 | 18 |
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Another 3 goals and another 2 pts sees us stay top of Div 1. The
performance left at lot to be desired though and while the confidence
must be high we shouldn't get carried away. The real test will come in
the next 3 weeks. We play Dundee away in the Skol Cup then play Raith
(h), Killie (a) and Partick (h) in the league. If we come out of these
games with reasonable results there is no reason why we can't have a
successful season.
Burley is proving that hard work and a greater level of fitness can
produce the right results. We aren't playing skillful, attractive football
but the team is giving 110% and in this league that is all thats
required.
Hopefully tomorrow night we can get a result against a side that defeated
us on every occassion last season. I'll go for 1-1.
...Derek
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49.5 | The Cream of Ayrshire | AYOU48::JHILL | and be a nation AGAIN! | Tue Aug 20 1991 14:18 | 19 |
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Well who would have guessed that after 3 games we would be averageing 3
goals a game and sitting on top of the league. I definately agree with
Derek about the hard work and 110% effort that's being shown. Obviously
the firness is paying off as we've scored four of our nine goals in
the last ten minutes.
Although there was very little good football played on Saturday I don't
think the team is all muscle with hash and bash tactics. After all it
was basically the same team that played Coventry off the park
pre-season. I think the true test will come in the games following
our first defeat.
John.
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49.6 | Fixture List | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Aug 20 1991 15:34 | 74 |
| Here's the fixture list for season 91-92
AUGUST
Sat 10th - Forfar
Tues 13th - Montrose
Sat 17th - CLYDEBANK
Wed 21st - Dundee - Skol Cup
Sat 24th - RAITH ROVERS
Sat 31st - Kilmarnock
SEPTEMBER
Sat 7th - PARTICK TH
Sat 14th - Dundee
Sat 21st - MEADOWBANK TH
Sat 28th - Morton
OCTOBER
Wed 1st - Dundee B & Q Cup
Sat 5th - STIRLING ALBION
Wed 9th - Hamilton
Sat 12th - FORFAR
Sat 19th - Clydebank
Sat 26th - Partick Th
Tues 29th - DUNDEE
NOVEMBER
Sat 2nd - KILMARNOCK
Sat 9th - Raith Rov
Sat 16th - Stirling Alb
Tues 19th - HAMILTON
Sat 23rd - Meadowbank Th
Sat 30th - MONTROSE
DECEMBER
Tues 3rd - MORTON
Sat 7th - Forfar
Sat 14th - PARTICK TH
Sat 21st - Dundee
Sat 28th - RAITH ROVERS
JANUARY
Wed 1st - Kilmarnock
Sat 4th - STIRLING ALBION
Sat 11th - Hamilton
Sat 18th - Montrose
Sat 25th - SCOTTISH CUP
FEBRUARY
Sat 1st - CLYDEBANK
Sat 8th - MEADOWBANK TH
Sat 15th - SCOTTISH CUP
Sat 22nd - Morton
Sat 29th - Stirling Albion
MARCH
Sat 7th - HAMILTON
Sat 14th - Raith Rovers
Sat 21st - KILMARNOCK
Sat 28th - FORFAR
APRIL
Sat 4th - Clydebank
Tues 7th - Partick Th
Sat 11th - DUNDEE
Sat 18th - Meadowbank Th
Sat 25th - MONTROSE
MAY
Sat 2nd - MORTON
Kev.
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49.7 | THE ROAD AND THE MILES | SCOAYR::JWILSON | THIS TRUTH FAND HONEST TAM O'SHANTER | Tue Aug 20 1991 19:11 | 28 |
| WITH OUR NEXT TRIP NORTH NOW ONLY A DAY AWAY, AND A GOOD START TO THE
SEASON ALREADY UNDER OUR BELT IT CAN BE HOPED THAT THIS ENCOUNTER WITH
DODDS AND CO. WILL BE MUCH MORE FAVOURABLE THAN LAST YEARS ATTEMPTS.
IT SHOULD BE HOPED THAT WITH SOME "MIXERS" IN THE TEAM IN THE SHAPE OF
GEORGE, KENNEDY, AGNEW AND, TO A DEGREE McLEAN AND "THE BOSS" THAT THE
GOOD START WE ARE ENJOYING SHOULD CONTINUE. CAMMY LOOKS SAFE BETWEEN
THE STICKS AND WITH SUPER WILLIE F. IN FRONT ALONG WITH AULD WHO, I
THINK WILL SETTLE IN OK, THE DEFENCE WILL START TO GET ON TOP OF THINGS
GENERALLY. BIG ALLY UP FRONT NEEDS A BOOT UP THE, WELL YOU KNOW WHERE,
AT TIMES BUT THE THIRD GOAL AGAINST THE 'BANKIES SHOWED WHY HE CAN
STILL KEEP SHAW ON THE BENCH. HOWEVER GREG HAS IMPROVED WELL OVER THE
CLOSE SEASON AND WILL BE PUSHING FOR A PLACE IN THE FIRST ELEVEN. SMITH
LOOKS A HANDY MAN TO HAVE AND HIS FINISHING IS NOT IN QUESTION AS HIS
WINNER AT FORFAR PROVED. ALLY FRAZER CAN TURN IT ON WHEN HE WANTS TO, A
BIT MORE OFTEN WOULD'NT HURT BUT LETS HOPE HE TAKES A MAD TURN AND
WORKS FOR A FULL NINTY MINUTES.
SO ALL IN ALL THE TEAM LOOKS STRONG BUT THE BIG TEST WILL NO DOUBT COME
AGAINST DUNDEE. WIN AND WE'RE SURELY ON A WINNER, LOSE AND IT'S NOT THE
END OF THE WORLD BUT HOPEFULLY IT SHOULD SHOW WHERE IMPROVEMENT'S HAVE TO
BE MADE TO TURN A GOOD TEAM INTO A BETTER TEAM.
HERE'S HOPING AND I'LL SEE THE FAITHFUL TOMORROW NIGHT.
FESS
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49.8 | forfar 2 Ayr 3 | AYOV27::DINV40 | | Thu Sep 12 1991 15:51 | 4 |
| Can anybody tell me about the Forfar game
... Bean
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49.9 | Dundee game was better though ! | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Sep 12 1991 18:58 | 17 |
| Yes,
Forfar scored from a touched-on free-kick after 15 mins. Duncan had
been screaming at the wall to move to the left. They didn't and Paton
smashed a cracker into the top left corner. Ayr equalised after about
25 mins when Ally Fraser ran onto a loose ball and thundered it into
the top right. Ayr pressed more and more and were rewarded when Ally
Graham's hopeful cross was flicked over the keepers head by Shaw.
Forfar equalised with 15 mins left when Adam headed in a cross from the
left. Ayr brought on Mike Smith for Shaw and he became an instant hero
with the travelling support when he chased a ball from Bryce (?) and
fired home brilliantly from 12 yards into the top right with 30 secs
left.
Good game for the fans (of Ayr anyway !)
Kev...
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49.10 | There's only 1 Super Ally. | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Fri Sep 13 1991 16:22 | 8 |
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Ally Graham wins the B&Q skill award for the first division for, I
presume, August.
Danny...
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49.11 | "Enter the Flop and the Diz" | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Sat Sep 14 1991 13:06 | 9 |
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Have just read in this morning's paper.
"The White Brazilian" and "Super Cammy" are both out of today's game
with Dundee. This means the return of "Dizzy" and "Floppy".
I've got a feeling we won't see a repeat of our 4-2 Skol Cup win !!!!!
...Derek.
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49.12 | Easy | BHUNA::AMILLAR | And some late news just in..... | Sat Sep 14 1991 22:22 | 4 |
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Dundee won 3-1
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49.13 | Step Back and Wait for Abuse... | UNTADA::BIRSE | C'mon ra 'D' | Mon Sep 16 1991 10:50 | 3 |
| Would today be a good day to start a Dundee topic ??
Hello Beanie :^)...
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49.14 | all is not lost | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Mon Sep 16 1991 14:49 | 24 |
| 1. Are you serious Danny that the big carthorse won a SKILL ??? award
2. Malcolm :- don't be silly
Ayr played well at Dundee and were unlucky to only be level at half
time. McAllister and Bryce hit the bar in the first half and until they
scored in the second we were the better team.
How the referee allowed Dodds to stay on the park after he retaliated on
Kennedy is beyond me.
Purdie was at fault with the third goal but he had a world class save
before that.
Disappointing for the travelling support but lets hope that Cammy and
Willie are available for the Meadowbank game.
... Beanie
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49.15 | 3 in a row :-( | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Sep 16 1991 15:03 | 20 |
| It was good to see the (small) travelling support giving Burley a good
reception as he walked to the dugout. He knows that it is the away fans
that are the REAL supporters, not the part-time/armchair boys who jump
on the bandwagon when we are winning and jump down throats when we are
losing.
The makeshift team did play well until Dundee scored their second goal
(although it did look a tad offside) but from then on it was one-way.
Shaw went off to let Walker on but he couldn't get a kick at the ball
(or the goalie for a change !) and the only incident of note was the
rousing cheer from the Ayr end when somebody finally nailed Billy "The
Submarine" Dodds and the wee rat had to be carried off. He should have
been sent-off for retaliating on a Kennedy tackle but the ref did not
even speak to him. Purdie played well apart from selling the third goal
and as Bean says he had a couple of brilliant reflex saves before that.
Oh Well, off to the Hallowed Ground tonight to see the Wee Ayr play the
Bankies.
The Full_timer....
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49.16 | Cheerio Stevie..:-) | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Mon Sep 16 1991 16:06 | 11 |
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Stevie, according to Fridays Daily Express, the award mentioned did
indeed go to the real Super Ally. (Scott Crabbe in the premier and
somebody Morrison of Clyde in division 2).
By the way Stevie, a petition is being mounted to have you banned from
watching the super-U's as we haven't done too well since you returned
from holiday...:-),:-)
Danny...
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49.17 | 2pts is a must | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Tue Sep 17 1991 14:36 | 14 |
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Well chaps, after 2 defeats in a row people are saying "the bubble has
burst". We know different, this is no bubble and to prove it we MUST
win well on Saturday against Meadowbank.
Our next 5 games are Meadowbank(h), Morton(a), Stirling Albion(h),
Hamilton(a) and Forfar(h). Although the 2 away games will be tough we
should be looking to pick up a minimum of 7pts.
Losing the last 2 games is a mere hiccup. I'm confident we will be back
to winning ways on Saturday. Hopefully Furphy and Duncan will both be fit
after missing the Dundee game.
...Derek
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49.18 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Sep 17 1991 15:06 | 12 |
| For all those just dying to know the result and scorers from last night
Ayr 2 - 1 Clydebank
(Walker 7') (Templeton 40')
(Gillespie 14')
The Wee Ayr are now third in the league with a game in hand. Clydebank
are still top.
Here's hoping the big team can repeat the scoreline on Saturday .
Kev...
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49.19 | Shoot!Shoot!Shoot! | EAYV01::LGRACE | | Thu Sep 19 1991 14:00 | 23 |
| The local press has hinted that McTurk may be thrown in against
Meadowbank,it stated that the boss isn't keen on the Graham,Shaw
partnership and is looking at alternatives.Personally,I think that
Shaw is more effective when coming on as sub and Smith is better
at right midfield than Fraser and Kennedy.Is it to much of a step
for a former amateur to play in the first division with such little
preparation ? I have to say i am in the not sure category, but if
the gaffer say he is ready ,then that will do me .
On a different note ,with the sacking of Munro at Dunfermline
the managerial merry go round could arrive at Somerset.This being
the case an ambitious manager like Burley would grab Premier football
with both hands,and who could blame him.In the event of this tragedy
I would hope that the club would be able to hang on to the very
impressive Dale Roberts.This would all be speculation if one of
the teams concerned emply an out of work manager,let's hope that
this is the case.
Cheers
Sal
P.S I won't be able to make saturday's game but I would like to
think that the loyal will out-shout the empty heads,and that the
Giants will have a resounding victory.
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49.20 | A very close game,huh ? (A game of 2 �'s) 8*)) | KURMA::JJACK | | Sun Sep 22 1991 14:04 | 7 |
| Scottish League Division 1
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ayr United.......7 Meadowbank Th....0
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49.21 | We'll be back | GALVIA::SPAIN | Vi skall resa till Sverige ocks� | Sun Sep 22 1991 22:20 | 12 |
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No need to rub it in. Ayr must have been poxed. The ref was biased
the 7th goal was offside. It was raining, it wa too hot, too cold.
:-)
We'll be back.
Gary (a Meadowbank supporter who hasn't been locked up yet).
PS We're still the only team from the capital city to have won a
championship in the past 10 years.
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49.22 | Vodka and 7-Up please barman, I'm celebrating ! | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Sep 23 1991 11:06 | 20 |
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I'm still in shock after the Black and White machine's destruction of
an abysmal Meadowank (sp?) team. They must have given gold jersey's out
to the first 13 nutters to appear from the Capital and then blindfolded
them for 90 minutes. I haven't got time to put in the usual match
report listing the goals,as I finish at 4.45,so a short gloat will have
to do. It's a pity McTurk went off at half-time as I'm sure they could
have lined up one of the goals for him as well. He looked fast and
tricky but his stamina is probably a bit short of 90 minute duration
yet. Even Davie Scissorhands had a reasonable game and actually held
two crosses. However, I hope Super Cammy returns against the Greenock
Boys next week. The goals by Duncan George and the second by Greg Shaw
were probably the pick of the bunch but I still felt that the much -
maligned Tommy Bryce had an excellent game and set up numerous chances
and goals, so he gets my MOM award.
I bet you feel sick Sal ?
Kev...
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49.23 | aaa choooo | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Mon Sep 23 1991 12:04 | 11 |
| You guessed it guys - I wasn't there. Sat in front of the fire nursing
a cold. They haven't been beaten in the league when I've not been
there.
The petition to stop me from attending will be getting bigger.
Bad news is the cold has gone and I shall be there at Greenock !
... Bean
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49.24 | | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Mon Sep 23 1991 14:10 | 18 |
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After 2 3-1 defeats we had to get back on the winning trail on
Saturday to prevent us falling off the pace at the top of the league
and also to boost the players confidence. To win 7-0 is a big bonus
and also makes a big improvement on the goal difference.
In all honesty it could have been a lot more. Greg Shaw should have
had a hat-trick and if Ally Fraser hadn't been so greedy, Tommy Bryce
could have picked up a couple.
A visit to sunny Cappielow on Saturday which will give the machine a
harder test. I'll settle for a draw.
MOM - Tommy Bryce (shades it from Duncan George)
Best goal - Paul McLean's (good move involving half the team)
Danny...
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49.25 | Beanie for Baghdad!!!! | EAYV01::LGRACE | | Mon Sep 23 1991 14:43 | 15 |
| Well lads I am looking for donations to send Stevie "Hoodoo" Allen
on an all expenses paid tour of devastation city finishing at Rugby
Park this Saturday in order to help Ayr to two points at Greenock.
On a serious note,rumour has it that Cammy Duncan could be sidelined
for six weeks,hopefully this is not the case.However if this is
the case then we really do need to get behind Purdie as he will
be our goalkeeper at the moment and we must help build up his
confidence if more shut-outs are to follow.
I wasn't at the game on Saturday so could anybody inform
me how McTurk played and do you think he will be in the squad for
Cappielow? Let's hear your opinions.
Cheers
Sal
P.S I see the Killie faithful got a free shower on Saturday as well
as their weekly gubbing.
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49.26 | Looking good... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Mon Sep 23 1991 14:54 | 16 |
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Sal, McTurk played reasonably well considering it was his debut. He
showed a lot of good touches and set up several chances before being
subbed at half-time. He'll need to spend some more time in the reserves
building up his stamina and strength before pushing for a regular first
team place. He certainly looks a very good prospect for the future.
Having said that, I don't expect him to be in the squad for Saturday.
On the goalkeeping front, Purdie actually played quite well on
Saturday albeit against very poor opposition. He seemed to be a lot
more confident than he was last season. Hopefully, if Duncan doesn't
make it Purdie can produce the goods and keep us amongst the leaders.
Danny...
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49.27 | | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Sep 25 1991 10:41 | 6 |
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According to yesterday's Advertiser Cammy Duncan has a chance, albeit
slim, of playing this Saturday. At worst he should be back for the
Stirling Albion game a week on Saturday.
...Derek
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49.28 | To see the Ayrshire Aces | EAYV01::JWILSON | HONEST TAM O'SHANTER | Sun Sep 29 1991 08:33 | 47 |
| Well troops, we've done it again,
Maybe not the way the script was set out but another great performance
in the last fifteen minutes. It would seem that the area we used
to fade away in is now our strongest asset and I think it only fair
to say that not many teams in the first division can match the Super
U's in the last quarter of the game.
But I digress.
Hard on the heels of our narrow victory last week hopes were high
for more goals and another two points, we were not to be let down.
The first goal was an enjoyable affair involving Super Skill
and the Invisable Man, better known to many as Super Ally, super
Ally tra la la la la la la, ( should be sung to one's self whilst
reading ) and Super Ally super Ally etc. etc. The head down by big
Ally was more or less perfect for Mr Fraser to blaze a scortcher
from about twenty yards. After this three other things happened but I
can't recall what they were. Anyway to goal number two. For those
who listen to radio Scotland it was a cracker from Hood, for the
rest of us super sub Shaw done the damage. A delightfully taken
goal, but what else can you expect from the leading goal grabber
in Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland, the UK, the world, the universe etc.
point made I think. The third came as a result of sustained pressure
and was cracked in by two goals in two games Mclean and the winner
I've left till last ( 'cause that's when it was scored ) was, for
me, the pick of the bunch. I thought Cally was going to wait all
day befor letting rip but in the end it was well worth waiting for.
I don't think even Mr Shaw could have finnished it any better.
Well there it is folks, I'm sure Kev will give us his usual blow
by blow account but I've touched on the more important points of
the game. Points for disccusion; 1. Why was Kennedy booked for handling
after the ball was already over the line and therefor out of play.
2. What was that pr**k of a ref doing in the middle by skillfully
setting up the equalliser and 3. Why are Killie the shittiest senior
team in Ayrshire. Answers on a postcard for number three please
addressed to Blue Peter who can maybe give them a team they made
earlier.
John........
p.s. I've just remembered what the three things that I forgot
were......Morton scored.
Bye yaawlll.
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49.29 | Goals galore... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Sun Sep 29 1991 16:05 | 27 |
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A good win away from home after giving away 3 dreadful goals to the
'ton. Purdie and Furphy were badly at fault for all 3 goals (with a
little help from the ref for number 1).
Back to our goals, you'll be hard pushed to see any team score 4
goals of similar quality to Saturday's strikes. Pick of the bunch for
me was Shaw's goal which brought us right back into the game after we
had went 3-1 down. A great turn followed by un unstoppable drive from
20-25 yards. Cally's smash from 20 yards in the last minute for a
spectacular winner was the icing on the cake.
We've proved all season that we'll score goals in this league. Our
problem is at the back where we've lost too many daft goals. We really
need to tighten up here.
Dundee on Tuesday in the B&Q centenary cup (or whatever it's called
now).
Stirling Albion at home next Saturday. A win is crucial as the top 2
meet at Dens Park next week.
MOM on Saturday - has to be Duncan George simply for his crunching
tackle that left 2 Morton players requiring extensive treatment. Never
a booking in my view :-) :-)
Danny...
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49.30 | hoodoo | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Mon Sep 30 1991 11:54 | 21 |
| Well chaps,
I was in Holland on business when we beat Coventry 3-1. I
returned to see us being beaten 2-1 from Swansea. I then spent a month
in Canada to return to see us being beaten 2-0 by Hibs, 3-1 by Partick
and 3-1 from Dundee. I had the cold the day of our 7-0 win over
Meadowbank and missed the game. On Saturday I went to see us beat
Morton, and with twelve minutes to go we were 3-1 down ---------
SO I LEFT - ENOUGH SAID
'The HOODOO'
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49.31 | Morton 3 Ayr MORE | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Oct 01 1991 13:53 | 32 |
| What can I say that has not already been said about "The Great Escape"?
3-1 down after 78 mins was rather a false position as IMO Ayr had been
the better side except for 20 mins in the second half when the midfield
all went for a breather. Mr Wyllie in the Morton goal must be
absolutely sick, not only with his defence ,but with himself for
wasting just enough time to allow Ayr to slam in a glorious winner in
what was about the 92nd minute by my watch. I had already settled for
the draw after being down and out so thanks again Dave , your a hero at
Somerset.
But onto the usual moan about the BITB, a certain Mr McVicar from
Cappilowe, sorry Carluke. Some of his decisions were strange to say the
least. He booked George for a hefty challenge, fair enough, but how
could he ignore the melee which ensued afterwards when Wyllie,Psycho
Super Ally and Auldy were all throwing their weight about ? Is it my
imagination or is the standard of refereeing gone down the toilet
recently ? He also missed a blatant handball (accidental, I Think) by
McLean when he scored the equaliser. I'm not being biased because he
was just plain dreadful for both teams and I thought it had an effect
on the result. Also to book Kennedy for punching the ball out of the
net when he had already blown for the goal was odd. I thought when the
ball crossed the line it was out of play so he was hardly preventing a
goal , was he ?
Off to Dundee tonight for the B&Q Cup. No doubt with all the rain ,
Billy "The Submarine" "I Go Down Faster Than Linda Lovelace" Dodds will
be up to his usual tricks (I see he dived for another penalty on
Saturday) so I expect us to lose about 2 or 3 goals , especially if
Scissorhands is between the sticks.
Kev....
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49.32 | too slack at the back | AYOV18::DREES | the black & white machine | Tue Oct 01 1991 14:05 | 27 |
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Dear Hoodoo,
glad to hear you won't be at Dens tonight. Our chances must improve !
--------------------------------------------
Chaps,
It was nice to see us play so badly for 70mins on saturday and still
win. Had it not been for Morton crapping themselves under pressure the
goals we gifted them could have been very costly. We can't afford to be
as slack at the back tonight as Dundee won't "bottle" it the way Morton
did.
If we are to have a successful season we must strengthen at the back.
Morton are not a good side but still managed to scored 3 times. On
the evidence of our performances against them and Partick we should
have nothing to fear as long as we don't concede silly goals.
...Derek
...Derek
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49.33 | Calling Beanie....free train ticket to Dens... | UNTADC::BIRSE | C'mon ra 'D' | Tue Oct 01 1991 14:56 | 3 |
| Dear Hoodoo.....
Talk to you tomorrow :^)...
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49.34 | Match report please Kev..... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Wed Oct 02 1991 09:44 | 7 |
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Due to dodgy weather conditions, decided not to make the trip north.
No doubt our loyal roving reporter was there, how about some match
info and team please Kev. Was it as convincing as the papers make out??
Danny...
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49.35 | D | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Oct 02 1991 10:10 | 26 |
| The team was the same as at Greenock but with Smith at 11 and Fraser at
7, McLean moving to 6 and Cally on the bench. Ayr started well and
playing into a very strong wind in the first half, they took the game
to a very lacklustre Dens side. Dundee threatened with Carson's long
kickouts but the strikers failed to capitalise on any chances created.
All the Ayr support had payed into the wing stand above the tunnel and
were making all the noise in a sparse crowd of 2000. Ayr took the lead
in the 25th minute when Dodds was forced into a bad pass which Smith
intercepted outside the box. He strode forward into the box
unchallenged and feinted before firing past Carson who had already
dived. 1-0 and the Ayrshire Giants were in top gear. They harnessed the
wind for the rest of the 45 and were rewarded when Bryce was pulled
down 25 yards from goal. Agnew and Fraser stood over the ball and when
Garry (I'm not a hoopy maggot anymore) Agnew touched it to his right,
Fraser unleashed an unstoppable shot into the top right corner to put
the Super U's in 2-0 up at half-time. With the wind at their backs in
the second-half and Shaw on for Smith, we all expected a couple more
but it was Dundee who looked the likelier to score and almost did when
the No 8 (?) ran onto a great ball and fired past the advancing
Scissorhands. The ball held up in the wind leaving our No 2 goalie
Super Davie K with all the time in the world to stop the ball on the
line and dribble past Dodds before clearing. All in all a competent
display and the best feature was the performance of the defence and
Purdie in particular who was outstanding (beleive it or not !!)
The Loyal Roving Reporter....
|
49.36 | Dougie Chisholm on Saturday!! | UNTADI::BIRSE | C'mon ra 'D' | Wed Oct 02 1991 11:06 | 5 |
| Well done......oh well.....hope for better against Partick on Saturday.
I suppose Mr. Allen didn't make the trip :^)...
|
49.37 | super uuuu's | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Oct 02 1991 11:15 | 6 |
| You are correct Malcolm. If we beat you again in a cup do we get you to
keep ?????
... Bean
|
49.38 | Which way to the Premier League ?? | UNTADI::BIRSE | C'mon ra 'D' | Wed Oct 02 1991 12:27 | 3 |
| You don't get me to keep.....
But you can have your note back for a while :^)...
|
49.39 | Is the league and B & Q Cup double on ? | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Oct 02 1991 15:52 | 14 |
|
It's was nice to gain revenge last night for last season's cup final
defeat. Can we go one better and win it this year ?
I think we can.
After having watched the better teams in the league, ie. Partick & Dundee,
we are certainly as good and should fear no-one. It's time we started
talking confidently about Ayr's chances of success. Afterall we have
proven we can score goals. Greg Shaw has scored more times this season
than Killie. If we can thighten up the defence things can only get
better.
...Derek
|
49.40 | A trip to Larbert | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Oct 04 1991 08:30 | 6 |
|
The draw for the next round of the B&Q Cup is :
Stenhousemuir v Ayr Utd
To be played on Tue 15th Oct
|
49.41 | Easy, easy.. | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Fri Oct 04 1991 11:41 | 26 |
|
A good draw for the mighty machine in our bid to go one better and
win this year's competition.
With 3 all first division ties, some of the better teams will be going
out early.
Partick v Hamilton
Morton v The filth
Raith v Clydebank.
Hopefully we can win this tie, get a couple of second division teams
in the next couple of rounds (like last year) and we'll be finalists
again.
I see the boss is expecting a tough game tomorrow against Stirling at
Somerset. Although they've only won once this season, they've only lost
4 goals in 5 away games so we shouldn't expect another high-scoring
game. I'll settle for the 2 points to close the gap on the top 2 who
meet at Dens.
Danny...
|
49.42 | hoodoo will be beaten | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Fri Oct 04 1991 13:36 | 10 |
| Danny,
We beat Clyde in the semi-final of the B+Q last year. They were
in the first division at that point.
But the bad news is I will be there tomorrow.
rgds ... Stevie
|
49.43 | Hoodoo you think yoo r ? | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Oct 07 1991 09:59 | 16 |
| Stevie..
Will you stay away from Somerset Park please ?????
Every time you show up, we play crap (like Saturday) so ....
STAY AWAY !
Kev...
|
49.44 | Fat Bob and Wee Willie | SCOAYR::AARNOTT | | Tue Oct 08 1991 14:00 | 14 |
| Word on the street, Kev, is that 'Gorgeous' Bob Reilly gave you boys a
bit of roasting when he turned out for Stirling Albion last Saturday.
That makes me smile 8-) and smile 8-)... and smile 8-).
He's such a great player that he isn't allowed to play against us for
Stirling either (Although how we managed to wangle a condition like
that in to a FREE transfer I'll never know).
Gorgeous Bob and wee fat Willie - there's a duo to bring back happy
memories to a Killie fan. On second thoughts make that side-splittingly
hysterical memories :-)).
Andy.
|
49.45 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Oct 08 1991 16:40 | 17 |
| Word on the Street ?????
You mean I told you yesterday, don't you .
Perhaps I over-rated him just a wee bit, but he certainly did not look
like a player who has not had a first team game this season.
On the other hand , it's nice to see Killie keeping to their recent
trend of pouring money/assets down the drain with the signing of yet
ANOTHER goalie (Andy Graham, not Goram as Fleeting probably thought)
and a midfield genital.....sorry general in that great Hamilton Accie,
Hugh Burns...
Tommy Burns alcoholic twin sister !
Kev...
|
49.46 | 1-1 | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Oct 09 1991 15:57 | 16 |
|
After our shocking performance against Stirling Albion on Saturday
we have the chance to bounce back tonight against Hamilton. Our
recent record against them has been poor although we did put them out
of last year's Scottish Cup.
With Partick and Dundee both dropping points last night we have the
chance to reduce the gap. In saying that, I'm not too confident of
picking up 2pts tonight. Hamilton have only lost once in the league
this season and coupled with our own deterioration in recent weeks,
I think we'll find it tough.
I'll settle for a point.
...Derek
|
49.47 | | SCOAYR::AARNOTT | | Thu Oct 10 1991 13:25 | 1 |
| Re. last night's 3-1 defeat. Was Billy Stark playing for Hamilton ??
|
49.48 | | GALVIA::SPAIN | Vi skall resa till Sverige ocks� | Thu Oct 10 1991 13:48 | 7 |
|
The note was set hidden because of the phrase in the last line which
I've heard at many football grounds and I consider to be racist. From
reading previous replies I now realise that it was not a racist term in
this case but a nickname for Ayr United.
Gary.
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49.49 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Oct 10 1991 15:09 | 16 |
| re .47
Yes, Stark came on as a sub after about 60 mins and gave away the
penalty with his first tackle (Bryce missed it). That was honestly his
total contribution to the game.
re .48
It's a nickname for Ayr United supporters not the actual team. A more
appropriate nickname for the team would be ......
set hidden by the moderators. (on last nights performance anyway)
Kev...
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49.50 | | AYOV20::JHILL | and be a nation AGAIN! | Mon Oct 14 1991 13:42 | 23 |
|
A 4-0 win on Saturday against a team who look to have relegation
written all over them already. It certainly wasn't the most
spectacular performance I've seen this season but it was certainly
more than enough to deal with a really poor Forfar team. In fact the
only cause for concearn we had in our box was when Purdie flattened big
Ally twice within a couple of minutes, leaving him flat on his back
requiring treatment.
Hopefully, we'll find the form which seems to have deserted us fairly
soon with 3 of the next 4 league games against top of the table teams.
Any comments on the substitution. I felt Smith was a little hard done
by in being taken off and feel Shaw was only sent on to perform for any
scouts in the stand.
Steep.
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49.51 | Another Keeper !! | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Oct 15 1991 13:24 | 9 |
| HOT NEWS !!!
The rumour machine has it that Ayr have sold Cammy Duncan to Dunfermline
and have signed Ally Maxwell (ex Motherwell). Rhodes of Dunfermline has
moved to Oldham.
More news when we have it.......
Kev...
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49.52 | ally M ??? | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Tue Oct 15 1991 13:41 | 5 |
| There is no mention of this in the club call. Who knows more or has
heard on the radio then please let us know.
regards ... Stevie
|
49.53 | Smoke without fire ? | AYOU18::JHILL | | Wed Oct 16 1991 09:30 | 10 |
|
Has the phantom rumourmonger struck again ?????
The only news I've heard was that Ayr hope to sign Lee Gardiner
some time today. (Westsound this morning)
Steep.
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49.54 | The Galloping BS award goes to....... | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Oct 16 1991 09:47 | 27 |
| Went to Stenny last night and guess who was in nets ?
Cammy Duncan..
So I asked a guy who I see at the reserve games and who appears to be
well in with the directors and he said basically that someone is
spreading malicious rumours about certain members of the playing staff.
He also said that Ayr have made strenuous attempts to sign Lee Gardner
and he should be an Ayr player by Saturday , and would be straight into
the team for the Clydebank game. Any money Ayr get from the sale of
Greg Shaw (about �150K) would be Burley's to spend on new players.
Billy Dodds does not appear to be coming to Ayr although a centre-half
is next on the list after Gardner.
Last night's debacle at Ochilview is best forgotten, an absolutely
terrible performance from almost everyone and we picked up a couple of
injuries with Bryce going off and Agnew nursing an ankle knock as well.
Agnew was booked so he must be due a suspension soon. With the standard
of teams left in the competition, Ayr should have no excuses for not
progressing to the final again.
QOS reserves at home tonight. Watch out for a return by Stevie Evans.
Kev...
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49.55 | Its a goal!! | AYOU18::JHILL | | Wed Oct 16 1991 13:30 | 45 |
|
Well lads here's a wee run down on we reached our first 40 goals this
season. I've only included League, Skol cup and B&Q cup no friendlies.
Due to limited space you'll have to work out the opponents and the
competitions.
Steep.
________________________________________________________________________________
Name | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 |
-------------------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
|Forf |Mont |Mort |Dund |
Ally Fraser |10/8 |13/8 |28/9 |1/10 |
-------------------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
|Forf |Clydebank |Dundee |St J |Meadowbank |Mort |Forf |
Greg Shaw |10/8 |17/8 |21/8 |27/8 |21/9 |28/9 |12/10|
-------------------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----------|-----|-----|
|Forf |Rait |Dund |
Mike Smith |10/8 |24/8 |1/10 |
-------------------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
|Montrose |Clyd |Dund |Hami |Forf |
Tommy Bryce |13/8 p |17/8p|21/8p|9/10 |12/10|
-------------------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
|Dund |St J |Part |Mead |Stir |Forfar |Sten |
Ally Graham |21/8 |27/8 |7/9 |21/9 |5/10 |12/10 |15/10|
-------------------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----------|-----|
|Kilm |Dund |
Stewart Auld |31/8 |14/9 |
-------------------|-----|-----|
|Mead |Mort |
Ian McAllister |21/9 |28/9 |
-------------------|-----|-----|
|Mead |
Duncan George |21/9 |
-------------------|-----|
|Mead |
Gary Agnew |21/9 |
-------------------|-----|-----|-----|
|Mead |Mort |Sten |
Paul McLean |21/9 |28/9 |15/10|
-------------------|-----|-----|-----|
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49.56 | calm down chaps | AYOV18::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Oct 17 1991 14:23 | 12 |
|
I go to London for a week's training and while I'm away all hell breaks
loose in this topic.
Are all the past replies just rumours or have they any substance ?
ie. Have we signed Lee Gardner ?
Have we sold Cammy Duncan ?
Are we buying a centre half ?
Derek.
|
49.58 | read all about it | AYOV20::JHILL | | Thu Oct 17 1991 14:59 | 20 |
|
Well old son howzit gaun.
Lee Gardner signed yesterday.
There appears to be no truth in the rumour about Duncan leaving
We get Stranraer in the B&Q � finals next tuesday at Somerset
Tommy Walker is on trial with Falkirk and Brown and Gillespie
will be released if a suitable offer comes along.
That is as much as I know at the moment.
Steep.
|
49.59 | Double take... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Thu Oct 17 1991 20:49 | 18 |
|
You're in danger of repeating yourself John!!
Good to see that Burley has decided to get rid of both Brown and
Gillespie. Neither of them are good enough to play first team football
and Burley is prepared to give younger players like Hood a chance
before he'll play any of these two numpties.
If Tommy Walker and Greg Shaw both go, as seems certain just now,
won't that leave us a bit short up-front? Any good prospects coming
through in the reserves Kev?
Then again, we'll probably sign Billy "I want to be a submarine" Dodds
and we'll continue as Britain's highest scoring team!!
Danny...
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49.60 | take it and run | AYOV20::JHILL | | Fri Oct 18 1991 09:49 | 13 |
|
The thing is Danny will you be able to spot todays deliberate mistook
:-)
According to the Daily Record this morning Shaw has been impressive in
his weeks trial at Anfield and Souness is considering offering 250,000
If only the Record could get it right just this once. :-)
Steep.
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49.61 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Oct 24 1991 12:56 | 12 |
| Just phoned Somerset to get the draw and.....
Guess what ??
Ayr play QOS at home in the semi
Surprised ?
Me neither !
Kev...
|
49.62 | Cup Final..... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Thu Oct 24 1991 13:31 | 8 |
|
This season's Ayrshire Cup Final is at BUGME PARK, Devastation City on
Tuesday 26th November.
Other trophy for our collection...:-)
Danny.
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49.63 | Calling the Roving Reporter | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Tue Oct 29 1991 13:02 | 6 |
|
Kev,
I know we were crap but how about a report on the Partick
game for us part-timers.
...Derek
|
49.64 | I shood huv styed in ra hoos | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Oct 29 1991 15:00 | 49 |
| OK You asked for it.
Ayr started better and Smith had two chances in the first 2 minutes. A
header which went wide and a 20 yard shot which hit the side netting.
On Partick's first attack, McLaughlin played the ball through to
McGlashan who was perhaps 2 feet offside, the linesman saw it but did
nothing, I saw from the perfect angle and he was definitely off , he
ran on and played it past Duncan who dived full length to try and block
it. McGlashan "caught" his boot in Cammy's guts and tumbled down like
he had been shot.(If you don't beleive it was a dive, see yesterday's
Sun which had brilliant pictures of Glasgow's answer to Greg Louganis
doing a perfect triple somersault with pike (degree of difficulty 8.7))
McCluskey,the Killie Bar steward of a ref decided it was a dreadful
challenge by Duncan , awarded a penalty and booked Cammy as well. 1-0
and the backs are already against the wall. Partick's next attack on 21
mins brought a scarcely deserved second goal. A needlessly conceded
corner was cleared as far as Jobby Law who swung a boot at it and it
flew through a ruck of players and ended up in the corner of the net.
Law then proceeded to run up the park, kissing his jersey, gesturing to
any Ayr fan that was watching and generally being a total pr!ck. (He's
good at that). Just after this McGlashan decided to dive again, this
time between the centre circle and 18 yard line, with no player within
4 feet of him. This was too obvious for even a blind retarded old turd
like McCluskey too fall for and he was told to get up, Still, practise
makes perfect so watch out when the frost is around 'cause he'll never
be on his feet and Partick will win at least one penalty a game. The
first half petered out to a boring finale , enlivened only by watching
Mike Smith's attempts to control the ball. He is crap, he could not
control the ball if it was tied to him on a short string. He will be
going back south come next May.
Part 2 was little better but the introduction of SuperSub did bring the
rest of the team to realise that Partick did actually have a net the
same as us and some of them began to find a way to it. It was in this
half that Murdoch made his first save of the match. McGlashan scored
Thistle's 3rd with a cracking 20 yard shot which flew over Cammy and in
at the far post.
All in all a crap display on a crap surface in a crappy part of the
world.
Best for Ayr were George,Agnew,Shaw,Auld. Poor performances from Smith
Duncan, Graham and Gardner (grass was too long for him)
Prediction for tonight.
Ayr 1 - 2 Dundee
The Pessimistic Kev......
|
49.65 | score????? | KIRKTN::AMCARTHUR | ANDY.... | Wed Oct 30 1991 01:16 | 2 |
|
What was the score tonight,Kevin......
|
49.66 | | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | I'm Dafter Than A Daft Factory | Wed Oct 30 1991 02:04 | 2 |
|
Ayr United 4 Dundee 1
|
49.67 | Same again on Saturday please.... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Wed Oct 30 1991 10:05 | 12 |
|
A good win last night sets us up for the clash with Killie (who?) on
Saturday. 4 very good goals and a reasonable performance at the back
must give the team a bit more confidence following the past few weeks
disasters.
Evans and Gardner were outstanding in the midfield which will be a
crucial area on Saturday against the Burns Geriatric Collection. Anyone
know whats up with George? If he's fit for Saturday I would expect him
to return with Shaw or Smith back on the bench.
Danny...
|
49.68 | AYR 4-1 DUNDEE | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Oct 30 1991 10:07 | 24 |
| After my rantings in .64 about how bad Smith was he scores two great
goals against the worst Dundee side I have ever seen. If that is what
happens when I slag a player off, then Shaw,Graham,Gardner,Agnew et al
are all crap. (Let's see if they score a couple each on Saturday :-) )
After early Dundee pressure Ayr took the lead in 15 mins when Garry
Agnew took a short free-kick from Smith and rasped home a 20 yarder
past a dozing keeper. It was all Ayr for the rest of the first half and
on the 35 minute mark an Agnew cross was cleared as far as Smith who
took careful aim and chipped the ball in at the back post. 5 minutes
later Shaggy Shaw collected an Agnew pass 25 yards out and, spotting
Mathers off his line, blasted it over his head and into the net. 3-0
and the smallish Ayr support were giving it laldy behind the Somerset
goal. Sweet revenge for a 4-0 gubbing last year at Dens.
Part 2 was predictable with Dundee attempting to salvage some pride and
Ayr content to soak up some pressure and hit on the break. When Billy
the Submarine scored a consolation for them on hour mark it only fired
Ayr up and a brilliant move down the left by Bryce when he beat two men
and cut the ball inside where Ally dummied it and Smith hit it was
rewarded when Mathers could only palm the latters shot into the top
corner. Good entertaining stuff and we're now top scorers in the league
by six goals. Bring on that other team from AYRshire.
The Happy Kev....
|
49.69 | | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Oct 30 1991 13:44 | 14 |
|
Well Chaps wasn't it nice to see us return to the form we showed at the
start of the season after the crap we've endured in recent weeks. All in
all a competent performance topped by 4 very good goals. The only bad
point from last night was that I felt we tended to panic slightly
after Dundee scored, even though we still had a two goal lead.
Gardiner had his best game since signing and Stevie Evans looks to be
getting back to his best. We still look shakey at the back and I was
sorry to see Craig Paterson sign for the filth. I would have liked to
have seen him sign for us.
Hopefully we can make him see the error of his ways on saturday.
...Derek
|
49.70 | Ayr United 4 DUNDEE 1 | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Oct 30 1991 15:06 | 37 |
|
I do not hear
GERMANY CALLING
GERMANY CALLING
GERMANY CALLING
!!!!!!!!!
Where are you Malcolm ???
love ... Bean
|
49.71 | A draw nae fitba | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Oct 31 1991 14:33 | 37 |
|
Right Chaps,
What's your predictions for Saturday ?
Personally, I think that it will be a scoring draw , probably 2-2.
There will definitely be goals as Ayr's defence are letting them in but
the attack are banging them home as well.
Duncan George should be fit but who do you leave out ? Shaw onto the
bench ? Smithy ?
I hope Cammy puts up the shutters as he has been less than convincing
recently and needs a good game to boost his confidence again. Agnew
probably has the toughest job of all watching Mitchell , but Garry
should not need any incentive to play well as we all know how he feels
about the Baghdad Boys. If Evans, Gardner and George play to their
potential and somebody shuts down Carpet and Grass ( the Burns sisters)
we should rule the midfield. I'm beginning to feel more confident now !
A wee pre-emptive comment to finish with...
Dave Murray, if you go to the game on Saturday, regardless of the
result, please do not trot out your usual complaint about not being
able to see anything from the away end....
Have you stood in the away end at Rugby-Tackle Park ?? You need
binoculars to see the far end. What was the point in moving the
segregation fence ? You'll never fill that ground with Killie fans
even if you do make it to the Premier. It ranks along with Dens Park
and Parkhead as one of the all-time worst vantage points for a
football match (from the away section that is)
Kev...
|
49.72 | Not confident... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Thu Oct 31 1991 15:34 | 15 |
|
I honestly don't feel too confident about Saturday, mainly because our
defence is crap. We've lost a lot of goals this season and we could
loose a few more to the filth. We played reasonably well against Dundee
and our home record is quite good so hopefully we'll tighten things up
at the back and in midfield where the Burns Old Crocks could dominate.
We're the top scoring team in Britain just now, hopefully that will
continue on Saturday.
The Baghdad Boys will probably win quite easily in the yellow/red card
department, as they did in every game last season!!!
Danny...
|
49.73 | Ayr 3 Killie 3 maybe ?? | SCOAYR::AARNOTT | | Thu Oct 31 1991 17:43 | 13 |
| I'm afraid I share your lack of confidence boys, but for Kilmarnock.
Maybe it's a good thing that both teams are playing crap and we'll see
a high scoring game. It should be interesting to see what difference
Craig Paterson will make to a defence that leaks worse than a 580 (Vlsi
in-joke...ignore it). I wouldn't waste any time trying to mark TB out
of the game cos he won't be in it. The man I'm sorry to say seems to
have lost it - the real creator these days is Thunder thighs shuggy
burns.
Is there anybody fast in your lot these days? cos if there is our
defence won't be able to cope.
Andy.
|
49.74 | a share of the points would do me fine | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Nov 01 1991 13:06 | 15 |
|
The PMT is building....
that's PRE MATCH TENSION not the other thingy, and I'm beginning
to look forward to tomorrow's match.
I'm not over confident and right now would settle for a draw.
In saying that however, if our midfield can take care of Tommy & Hugh Burns
(all they need is George and it would be the oldest midfield in living
memory) and our defence has one of it's better days, I think 2 pts is
on the cards.
...Derek
|
49.76 | Let laughter flourish...:-) :-) | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Fri Nov 01 1991 14:26 | 8 |
|
Finlay, all the comments being made in this conference about Killie
are done tongue-in-cheek. After all, if we can't have a good slagging
and laugh at our oldest rival's expense then it would make for a pretty
dour topic.
loadsa :-) :-) :-)
|
49.77 | In answer to all the slagging... | GIGHA::DMURRAY | | Fri Nov 01 1991 18:07 | 25 |
| Well I returned from holiday in the sun just in time for the derby game. I have
predicted a 2 each draw in the killie notes file but think the game could be
very close since Ayr let in silly goals ( we need help to score these days ) and
Killie defense strengthed by the latest signing will be pushed by the free
scoring Ayr side.
In an earlier note complaints about the slagging between Killie and Ayr was
critised but everone should realised is just in good fun and its not serious.
( except what I say about the Ayr ground being a dump ).
I totally agree that the new segrgation at Rugby park is awfull and dont see the
point in it. However if Ayr allowed the biggest support in the home end I would
get a better view than the last 3 games I've seen at somerset.
On the subject of old players, get your facts right Hugh Burns mau look old but
he is in his mid twenties not late thirties.
Dave
ps : I hear that some Ayr Utd shares are going cheaply these days, and I always
thought you couldn't give them away.......
|
49.78 | The proverbial nightmare comes true | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Sun Nov 03 1991 13:49 | 24 |
|
Yesterday I made the mistake of leaving the pub to witness possibly
the worst defensive performance ever at Somerset Park. To make matters
worse, it had to happen against the boys from North Ayrshire. In all
honesty, I did not think Kilmarnock played particularly well. They just
had to wait until our defence made a balls-up and they would pick up
the 2 points. Credit to Burns and Mitchell for scoring 2 very good
goals but the Ayr defence, well Kennedy and Auld in particular, would
not have looked out of place in a poor amateur team (no disrespect to
any amateur's out there!).
Burley has to take the next good offer that comes in for Shaw and
spend the cash available on a good, fast commanding centre-half and a
full-back that doesn't go into panic mode whenever the ball comes near
him. Basically, Auld and Kennedy have to be replaced NOW or we will
continue to concede unnecessary goals as we did on Saturday.
We obviously have quite a few injury problems when Burley has to
resort to putting Brown (future Scotland captain my a**e) and McTurk
(untried youngster) on the bench. Hopefully we can get our act together
and win on Tuesday night. After Saturday, I'm not so sure.
Danny...
|
49.79 | Sorry....I missed that one... | UNTADH::BIRSE | C'mon ra 'D' | Mon Nov 04 1991 17:03 | 8 |
| I was at EDI '91 in Birmingham last week, Beanie. We had lots of good
demos, leads etc. It was really a wonderful week, and extremely
interesting.
Due to this, I was unable to keep alive my usual avid interest in the
Dens mens' performances. Did something important happen :^)...
|
49.80 | gubbed | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Tue Nov 05 1991 09:27 | 16 |
|
Well it's taken me until today to recover from Saturday's gubbing at
the hands of the filth. Our performance was pathetic and totally inept.
Credit must go to Kilmarnock who, although we gifted them 2 goals,
looked as if they could step up a gear at anytime. They were better
than us in every department and in my opinion have been the most
impressive league side to play at Somerset this season. I was surprised
it finished 3-0 as I felt they were capable of scoring everytime they
attacked. Craig Paterson was outstanding and I'm sure his signing will
be the turning point in Kilmarnock's season. It hurts to say it but I
now feel Killie are good enough to win the First Division. With
Paterson at the back they will no longer lose silly goals.
Let's hope we can restore some pride tonight.
...Derek
|
49.81 | Spot On | SCOAYR::BLIVINGSTONE | | Tue Nov 05 1991 10:53 | 6 |
| I must agree with all your comments Derek,in my opinion it was the
worst performance i have seen from Ayr against Killie in a long time.I
don,t know how Ayr supporters feel about Greg Shaw but from a Killie
supporter who has only seen him in the two games against us,i thought
he was terrible and if i was the Ayr manager i would take the next
offer that comes in for him and buy a decent centre half.
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49.82 | | AYOV20::JHILL | | Tue Nov 05 1991 14:21 | 21 |
|
Apart from the result I think the most disappointing aspect of the game
was the lack of passion and commitment on the park. In fact a comment
from some punter on the terracing summed up the whole lack lustre
performance for me when he quipped after Super Ally had made a half
hearted attempt to connect with a cross " If that had been Dixie Ingram
the post, the goalie and the ba' would all have ended up in the net."
Changed days indeed.
As for the game up until Burns scored I felt we might have had the
edge but from then on in there was only going to be one winner.
To answer .81 about Shaw I will be more than happy to see him go. He
has certainly scored some cracking goals this season but I think that at
this time we could do with money far more than the player.
Steep.
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49.83 | AUFC 3-1 QOS IMHO ! | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Nov 05 1991 14:35 | 21 |
| re .81
Brian,
I know you have only seen Shaw in 2 matches but beleive me when I say
he is an excellent if perhaps inconsistent player. I had the same
trouble convincing Ayr supporters he was good 2 years ago when we
signed him and look at the comments from them now.
On the subject of reserves, McTurk and Hood are both good prospects and
in my opinion will be too good for Ayr United within a couple of
seasons.
Derek,
How's your PMT ?
Personally I just can't get up any enthusiasm about tonight's game. I
feel we will probably win but will get gubbed in the final if we do.
Always the Bridesmaids, sigh !!
The Shellshocked Kev...
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49.84 | from bad to worse | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Nov 06 1991 09:37 | 9 |
|
After Saturday's garbage I felt we could only improve. How wrong can
you get. We were appalling and Queen of the South were robbed.
I'm obviously glad were in the final but we don't deserve to be.
Our winner was at least 4-5 yards offside.
...Derek
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49.85 | Syme 3 QOS 2 | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Nov 06 1991 10:49 | 26 |
| Ayr have signed John Traynor (ex-Celtic) from Clydebank. As far as I
know, he is a full-back. Does anyone know if he can play at centre -
half or are we still in the market for one of them (the Advertiser says
there will be another 'signing swoop' this week)
Burley was at Rugby-Tackle Park on Monday to see Killie v Celtic
reserves so he may have been interested in Burgess but I've heard
Porteous's name mentioned as well.
Last night's debacle should have sent Ayr spinning out of the cup. QOS
were robbed from start to finish and deserved to win. Syme had probably
the worst game as ref I have ever seen. He ignored a sending off
offence when Graham booted Bell on the ground and an assault by Duncan
George on Henners only got a booking. Ayr's winning goal was about 10
feet offside and the linesman chose to ignore that as well. You will
never get a luckier team than Ayr last night, let's hope they carry
that same luck into the final against the Accies.
Hmmmmmmmmm
2 cup finals in 2 years ?
Not many Ayrshire Teams can boast about that eh ?
:-) :-)
Kev...
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49.86 | Our names on the cup...!!! | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Wed Nov 06 1991 11:33 | 21 |
|
I see Ally McLeod slagging off the ref and linesman for last nights
game. He has my complete sympathy. Ally Graham should have walked after
kicking the Queens player, Ayr's winner was a good 3 yards offside. How
the linesman didn't flag is beyond me. Credit to QOS for coming to play
attacking football. They deserved to win the match. We were a disgrace,
even worse than Saturday. The sooner we get a good solid centre-half,
the better. Our defence was all over the place last night, no cohesion
whatsoever.
Things are not looking good for Saturday. Gardner, Bryce and Shaw all
picked up knocks last night and could be struggling to make Saturday's
game. With half the current first team squad injured, we could be
fielding a very young team against Raith.
Back to last night, Auld, Hood, Fraser and Shaw were utter crap, the
rest apart from Agnew and possibly Furphy were just crap. Sad days
indeed!
Danny...
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49.87 | Armchair supporters,You're only Armchair supporters | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Nov 07 1991 11:29 | 14 |
| While you lot were probably watching TV last night, I was running the
rule over the reserves against Rangers at Somerset. A fair performance
had the boys drawing 2-2 with about 9 or 10 mins left before Spencer
scored his 2nd,3rd and 4th of the night to put a rather flattering
scoreline of 5-2 on the board.
Best performances came from a trialist centre-half called Nigel
something from Morecambe and McTurk (as usual). The trialist sweeper
also from Morecambe had a reasonable game and probably both will be
asked back. Nigel Something capped his fine display with Ayr's second
goal, scoring with a header from a McTurk corner.
Kev....
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49.88 | Nigel who? | EAYV01::LGRACE | | Sat Nov 09 1991 09:17 | 8 |
| I see that we have broke the bank again and signed another household
name.Where Mr Burley dug this one from I don't know,I only hope
that he can play as the Baghdad boys are having a field day on this
one,especially since most United fans were speculating names like
John Philliben,Stuart Burgess,Alex Kennedy etc.The only consolation
is that saturday's will never be dull as long as we hear the chants
of there's only one NIGEL Howard!!!!
|
49.89 | I said he was good !! | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Nov 11 1991 11:31 | 31 |
| I think it's a bit unfair to slag off signing Big Nige. As probably the
only person to have seen both his outings in an Ayr strip, I am more
than impressed. He spent 3 years at Ibrox before returning to Lancaster
(I thought it was Morecambe, honest !) so he knows the ropes. If the
Baghdad Boys are getting at you , ask them why they have spent so much
money on such a shower of crap and are still not taking up their
"rightful place" in the Premier League. If Burley had the money that
the Flops have, Ayr would have signed better players and would be at
the top of the league , not midtable, so let's keep things in
perspective.
As to the game on Saturday. Probably the most pleasing aspect was the
fact that we did not concede a goal. Raith have been banging them in
recently and Ayr have been losing stupid goals ,so it was nice to see
a new defence play so well. If you read the Sunday Papers, you would
get the impression Ayr were not in it, but that's being a wee bit harsh
as Duncan had one save to make in each half and three shots went over
the bar whereas Arthur was forced to make about three saves , all in
the second half. (Mind you , we did not get a corner until 60 minutes
had elapsed) Traynor had a good game and looks solid, as did big Nige
(he has to get a nick-name, and soon !) and although McTurk was subbed
at half-time, he had not played badly. Bryce, George and Kennedy were
poor in the midfield with too many passes going astray and the service
to the front men left them little to work on. Smith had a good match
playing deep at right midfield. MoM award goes to numbers 2,3,4 and 5
for shoring up a defence that's been letting in more goals than anyone
else in the league, away from home that is.
Accies reserves at the hallowed ground tonight. See you there ?
Kev...
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49.90 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Nov 12 1991 11:10 | 16 |
| More news about Nige.
It seems he was given a free transfer from Doncaster Rovers to
Lancaster City about 3 weeks ago. He played 2 games for Lancaster and
they lost both. Burley then stepped in and paid �10K for him. Some
credentials, huh ?
The reserves were gubbed again last night . 2-0 by a strong Hamilton
side. Only good point about the game was the performance of Derek Allan
the U-18 centre half who had a great game and coped very well with the
Hamilton forwards and Auldy's innumerable mistakes. Worst players on
the park had to be "the future captain of Scotland" and Tommy "I could
not hit a barn door from 10 feet" Walker. Absolute crap, the pair of
them.
Kev...
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49.91 | Ayr 0 CRAP 3 | SCOAYR::BLIVINGSTONE | | Wed Nov 13 1991 03:52 | 12 |
| Sorry Kev but i have to reply to this one,we all know that Mr Fleeting
has bought alot of crap players but he has also bought a few good
ones,i.e Patterson,Burns,Williamson and Mitchell.At least the club can
attract some big name players to Rugby Park,more than can be said for
Ayr.Remember Ayr did turn down Mr Murray's financial backing so it is
entirely the club's own fault that Mr Burley hasn't got the money to
attract better players to the ground,and get into the Premier League.As
for Killie i am confident that we will be in the Premier League at the
end of the season,you may slag Killie but at the end of the day i would
rather being in Killie's position than Ayr's .At least we have a board
who are willing to have a go at being succesfull,Ayr have a board who
seem to want the opposite.
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49.92 | Ticket touting is illegal!!!! | EAYV01::LGRACE | | Wed Nov 13 1991 09:39 | 7 |
| It has been announced that the B+Q Cup Final will be all ticket
on the recommendation of the police.I think that this could affect
the crowd for the match as I don't see many fans who normally don't
go to the games making the effort to obtain tickets.I cannot understand
why the police want it all ticket as there is no way that it will
be a sell-out,although I would have expected a crowd of 9,000 or
so.
|
49.93 | Cheap Crap 0 Expensive Crap 3 | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Nov 13 1991 10:08 | 16 |
| re .91
Don't get me wrong Brian, I know who is responsible for Ayr not being
better backed financially. What I was trying to get across was that if
Burley had the same amount of money to spend as Fleeting, he would have
spent it more wisely and not bought players who can't get a place in
the first team. Fleeting is the sole reason why Killie had their little
sojourn in Division 2 and why they are not already in the Premier
League. His constant wastage of resources and cash has meant Killie
has the largest squad I've ever heard of. I mean , 8 GOALIES , is
taking it a bit far ! The team that played against Meadowbank on
Saturday cost �800,000. Ayr's team at Raith cost about �85,000.
Who would you expect to succeed quicker ????
Kev...
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49.94 | Unlimited Budget Mr Fleets ??? | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Nov 13 1991 11:56 | 9 |
| Fleeting has made five players available for transfer. This shows the
excess in the Killie squad. The players concerned are
Callaghan,McStay,McQuilter,Elliot and Porteous.
I hope that Burley has the money to buy the last two as they are good
players who have not had a fair run in the Killie team.
...Bean
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49.95 | ELLIOT ??? | SCOAYR::AARNOTT | | Wed Nov 13 1991 13:44 | 9 |
| RE. -1
I take it that you've only seen Elliott play in the 3-1 Killie Ayr game
last year. These days he'd be last picked for a game of fives in Dam
Park.
IMHO Willie Mcstay might not be a bad buy to bolster your defence
though.
Andy.
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49.96 | No Score Bore | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Nov 18 1991 17:02 | 20 |
| Stirling Albion 0-0 Ayr United
Another disappointing game goes by and we have not scored on a Saturday
for 4 weeks. Very little to report on the game which was watched by
about 1000 fans. About 300-400 from Ayr which beats the massive total
of 218 which we mustered for last weeks visit to the dregs ground in
dregland, sorry Kirkcaldy. Albion had the better of a dour first half
but the only moment of note was a header from Moore which hit the Ayr
crossbar and bounced out to be cleared. Big Nige then squashed Fat
Willie Watters into the plastic pitch and he had to be dragged off as
the stretcher bearers could not carry him. Ayr dominated the second
half but failed to find the net with any of the chances they created.
Ayr now have only one more game left on plastic and I'm glad. It's a
crappy surface and one which gives a definite advantage to the home
team. Players can't control the ball when it's bouncing, it runs away
from them in passes and the only good point is it's always playable
Accies on Tuesday in a rehearsal for the Cup Final
Kev.....
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49.97 | AYR 0 - 2 HAMILTON | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Nov 20 1991 11:13 | 43 |
| Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...
It did.
Last night's debacle is best forgotten, but for them that were not
there, (Delboy and Beany) here is a brief resume.
I knew the minute I saw the name WADDELL as ref in the programme that
the game would be crap. It was. Hamilton played their usual competent
but extremely boring (but effective !) style of football. i.e play the
ball back to your keeper at least 20 times each half and hit on the
break, most often from a kick-out. Ayr had the best chance first when
Dobbin Graham was through with only the keeper to beat and shot weakly
at him from 18 yards. The keeper's kickout was flicked on in midfield
to Gary Clark who I must say was in a rather obviously offside position
at the time, however, he ignored Ayr's protests and ran on to smash the
ball high past Duncan for the opener after 29 minutes. If only Dobbin
had scored it might have been different. Ayr pushed for the rest of the
first half but Hamilton easily soaked up all the pressure and never
looked in serious trouble. Shaw came on for Evans at half-time and
nearly scored early on when he was through on the keeper only to see
McCulloch smother his shot easily. Ayr continued to press but were
continually frustrated by Hamilton's pass backs. The sooner FIFA bring
in the new rules about pass backs the better for any team playing
against the Accies. Waddell lived up to his reputation on the hour mark
when he missed a blatant hand-ball in the Hamilton box as Millen
punched the ball into the keeper's arms, quite unbelievable ! There
was another couple of incidents which may have resulted in penalties
but it was looking more and more like another defeat. This was
confirmed with 4 minutes left when Harris ran down the left, cut inside
and fired in a shot which Duncan could only parry and Clark netted the
rebound from about 5 yards. All in all, a right good gubbing and an
object lesson in how to play football. Ayr have never really managed to
get it right against Hamilton and I can't remember the last time we
actually beat them in a league game.
I think we'll get gubbed in the final as well , in fact, I don't think
we'll even score. There, how's that for confidence ?
Only piece of good news is that Dizzy Gillespie has joined the Donkey
Sanctuary in Dumfries for free.
The Unhappy One......
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49.98 | Another shambles.... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Wed Nov 20 1991 11:16 | 26 |
|
The dismal run continues. 2 wins, 2 draws and 6 defeats in our last 10
league games. Not very inspiring stuff. To make matters worse, we've
only scored in 1 of our last 6 games.
Last night was very poor. Ally Graham missed when through against the
keeper, Hamilton then went upfield and scored the opener (although it
was a good yard offside). After that it was the same old story.
Hamilton defended, wasted time and generally tried to kill the game.
Ayr missed a couple of chances, Hamilton counter-attacked and it was
2-0.
Midfield was non-existant last night. As a result we resorted to the
big punt upfield which got us nowhere. Bryce, Evans, Kennedy and Graham
were crap and need to be replaced. The worry is there's no-one
available just now due to injuries.
ps
I can picture the B&Q final. Hamilton score early on, then waste as
much time as possible before scoring a late 2nd. Something similar to
last night!
Danny...
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49.99 | MTFC 1-1 AYR | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Nov 25 1991 13:58 | 59 |
| At last !
It's Monday so it's time for my usual rantings after the match.
The 440 people in Meadowbank Stadium were not rewarded for their
loyalty in turning up. A terrible surface made skilful play a rarity
and both midfields were slipping and sliding about in the mud. Ayr
introduced Peter Weir for his first match in 7 months and although he
played well, it will take a few more games before he reaches anything
like fitness. Ayr had the early chances but Shaggy decided because he
had No 9 on his back he would play like Dobbin Graham and missed on
several occasions. Thistle played Grant as a striker and he caused
plenty of problems for Furphy who did not win one ball in the air in
the first half. Grant was probably more dangerous than the normal
Thistle strikers and looks like he could play there again. After
starting poorly, Smith came into the game and from one of his shots
from 20 yards the ball rebounded from the bar to Bryce who calmly fired
home at the near post. Ayr had several other chances to increase their
lead before and after half-time but were made to suffer when Cammy
Duncan was stretchered off after a bad collision between him, Howard
and a wee nyaff called Little, who appeared to go over the ball. If
you listened to Radio Scotland it was a head injury, but to me it
looked like his left leg that got the worst of it. At this point (59m)
Traynor , Howard and Duncan were all getting treatment, and it looked
like we would be left with 8 players. However, Davie Kennedy fulfilled
his ambition and pulled on the Goalie jersey for the first time. By my
reckoning, he has played with every number except 9 on his back, quite
a record. His first task was to defend a corner and although he did not
actually get to it, the ball spun out for a goal-kick. Even then Ayr
had chances to win the game and players like Gardner,Shaw and Bryce
must do better when in front of goal. On the 79 min mark Thistle won a
corner and Kennedy met it brilliantly to punch well clear. The ball was
played in again and Kennedy cleared the resulting header out for a
corner again. It was at this point that the BITB decided that the only
way Meadowbank would score would be a penalty and he duly awarded them
one.No-one in the ground claimed for it and none of the players could
understand why it was given. Kennedy was spoken to , for dissent
perhaps ,but not booked and Roseburgh scored from the spot. The ref had
to go to the dugout and speak to Roberts and Burley who were furious
and tell them why it was given. I reckon if you looked up
"ILLEGITIMATE" in the dictionary, there would be a photograph of Jim
Renton of Cowdenbeath in his refs gear.
The game fizzled out after that and the final whistle brought cheers
from the Ayr support for a terrific performance by the defence who
played so well in the last 30 mins that Kennedy did not have a save to
make. (BTW he almost saved the penalty) and boos for Renton who left
the field to shouts of "Cheat".
It's time Meadowbank were back where they belong. Division 2 . They
have a terrible stadium to watch football in , a crap surface to play
it on and a support which is as weird as a bottle of bananas, that would
fit quite comfortably in the back seat of a Metro. Long may their run
of bad results continue.
Gets off soapbox and hits CTRL/Z......
Kev....
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49.100 | The full-timer turns part-time | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Nov 26 1991 09:45 | 14 |
|
Last night's reserve game saw the return of Cally for 90 mins and
Burley for the second half of a good win over Stenhousemuir. Goals by
McTurk (2), Auld and the trialist striker who also hit 2 gave Ayr an
easy 5-2 win although it could have been different had Mickey Robertson
not had a superb game in nets.
It seems Cammy has badly damaged ankle ligamentsand will be in hospital
for about another 5 days yet.
Forfar away tonight. Sob Sob . I'll miss my first match, home or away
for a year. If anyone is going, get a report in here tomorrow.
Kev...
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49.101 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Nov 27 1991 09:59 | 12 |
|
A very valuable two points gained last night at Forfar. From newspaper
reports it appears to have been mostly Ayr and it took Forfar over half
an hour to even force a corner. On the 60 minute mark Ayr were awarded
a penalty when Walker was pulled down in the box but Thomson turned
Bryce's spot kick out for a corner. From the corner, Bryce netted after
a goalmouth scramble, with the ball going in off the bar.
Moved up to 5th place last night. Montrose at the hallowed ground on
Saturday. Should be 2 more points, but then again.......
Kev..
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49.102 | Ayr are back ???? | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Nov 27 1991 11:30 | 20 |
| Ayr team was :-
Purdie
Traynor Agnew
Furphy
Howard
Smith Gardner Kennedy Bryce
Walker Graham
Walker was supposed to have had a good match. Hopefully he will play on
Saturday.
... Bean
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49.103 | How serious is Cammy Duncan's injury...? | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Wed Nov 27 1991 11:50 | 4 |
|
|
49.104 | There's only one gas meter!!!!!! | EAYV01::LGRACE | | Wed Nov 27 1991 13:12 | 3 |
| Re Note .102
I think that you will find that Weir played from the start against
Forfar and that Smith was on the bench along with Shaw.
|
49.105 | cumbakcam | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Nov 27 1991 17:03 | 6 |
| You are correct Lawrence. Weir started the game and Smith was a sub.
Cammy is in hospital and could be out for up to six weeks.
... Bean
|
49.106 | Ayr 2 Montrose 0 | AYOV18::DREES | the black & white machine | Mon Dec 02 1991 14:21 | 26 |
|
Saturday's performance again left a lot to be desired. Although we won
in the end the standard of football played was atrocious and the
entertainment value was zero. Things will have to improve considerably
if we are to beat Hamilton on Sunday.
The only good points to come out of the game was the performance of
the defence which looked very solid and the performance of Tommy
Walker (his work rate was excellent). It was also good to see Paul
McLean back as I feel we've missed his "dig" in midfield.
Dobbin was again crap as was Lee Gardner. These two don't looked
interested and it's about time they got their finger out and started
working as hard as the rest of the team.
According to the "Stage 1" chappies the team that plays tomorrow
against Morton will be the team that plays on Sunday with the exception
of John Traynor (cup tied) and possibly Gary Agnew who is only one
booking away from suspension. Burley will play from the start as will
Duncan George.
It is important to beat Morton tomorrow night, not only to keep up with
the leading pack but also to boost the confidence for the final.
Hopefully the performance will improve and we can bag another 2pts.
...Derek
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49.107 | Selection time... | AYOV18::DSMITH | | Mon Dec 02 1991 15:25 | 25 |
|
Let's have your cup-final team selections.
Purdie
Agnew Furphy Howard McLean
(please not the chicken)
Bryce George Gardner Weir
Walker Dobbin
subs from Shaw, Smith, Evans, Chicken.
Saturday was one of the worst for a long time. We never created much
up front and it always looked as if a penalty would be the way through.
Dobbin isn't having a good spell just now. I think he's in the team
more as a nuisance factor. He's a big striker who upsets defenders. He
may not be everyone's favourite but he was involved in both goals on
Saturday so he's obviously doing something right.
Danny...
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49.108 | | AYOV18::DREES | the black & white machine | Mon Dec 02 1991 15:52 | 16 |
|
Cup-Final Team:
Purdie
Burley Furphy Howard Agnew
McLean Gardner George
Bryce
Walker Dobbin
Subs: Weir,Shaw
No place for Smith,Kennedy or Evans.
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49.109 | 7 out of 8 | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Dec 04 1991 09:09 | 10 |
| A good win last night. Where did Dobbin learn these new tricks !
Anyway, Purdie, Howard and George are all doubtful for Sunday.
Who could we get on loan if we need a goalie.
..... Stevie
|
49.110 | 3 in a row | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Dec 04 1991 10:15 | 36 |
|
Ayr United 3-2 Morton
A good win last night against a team who appear to be struggling at the
moment. Morton however, started better than Ayr and the combination of
Mathie and McCabe caused Ayr's defence lots of problems in the first
half. Mathie should have done better when clean through on goal but
Purdie brought off a magnificent save at his feet. Ayr failed to take a
golden opportunity when , after a corner, Wylie was posted missing
(again) and the ball dropped at Bryce's feet but he was crowded out
before he could get a shot in. Morton raced out out of defence and a
long ball found McCabe who bore down on goal. Purdie raced out to
tackle and the ball broke to Mathie who fired into the empty net.
1-0 half-time.
Ayr started the second half in whirlwind fashion and forced Morton
back for long periods. The breakthrough came in 58 mins when Walker was
on hand to touch home a Graham knockdown. Further chances were
squandered before Graham again got on the end of a Traynor cross to
dive and head a glorious goal to put the finalists in front. 5 minutes
later, it was 3 - 1. Shaw capitalised on a mistake on the halfway line
to stride forward. Reaching the byeline, he cut the ball back perfectly
for Super Ally G to blast home a volley from 15 yards, low into the
corner of the net. 7 minutes later, the Morton sub Deeney got on the
end of a free-kick and his flick deceived the injured Purdie to put a
rather false reflection on the scoreline.
BTW . Can any of you Morton boys tell me if the training at Cappielow
involves raw meat ? Pickering, Doak, McInnes and Fowler (well named)
all laid the boot in with monotonous regularity and if the ref had been
a man and not a wee powder-puff, there might have been a few less
Yellow jerseys on the park come the final whistle. McInnes was very
lucky to escape an early bath when he just failed to connect with Tommy
Bryce after a lunging two-footed attempted assault.
Kev...
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49.111 | | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Dec 04 1991 12:29 | 10 |
|
re. last
"Super" is not the adjective I'd use to describe Dobbin.
"Lazy","crap","shite" yes but certainly not super.
Last night he got lucky. I'd still hunt him.
...Derek
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49.112 | Luckiest forward in the league!!!! | EAYV01::LGRACE | | Wed Dec 04 1991 13:46 | 7 |
| Derek,although I agree with most of your comments about Dobbin,I
would like to point out that 12 strikes by early December puts him
up there with Eadie,Dalziel,and Shaw (Not a bad average!!!) and
remember the strikes at Dens in the Skol Cup and also St Johnstone
in the Skol,and also Forfar in the league.Luck surely not!!!!!!!!!
Sal
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49.113 | Get Aff 'is Back | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Dec 04 1991 14:11 | 21 |
| re .111
Delboy,
If you remember correctly, it was me who christened him "Dobbin" in .97
and also described him as a cross between Desert Orchid and Robocop
when we signed him . He was good (not lucky) last night but he's
been crap before and he'll be crap again . All I'm saying is give the
guy some credit where it is due. If it had not been for Walker touching
in a header on the goal-line, he would have had a superb second-half
hat-trick, everyone of them a cracker.
Perhaps if we merged the workrate of Walker with SUPER Ally's ability
(which he has but uses infrequently) we might have a devastating
forward.
Here's hoping Purdie , Howard , George and Agnew are all fit for the
Final and that the entire Hamilton team are sent off tonight playing
against MTFC.
Kev...
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49.114 | Will the real SUPER ALLY stand up... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Wed Dec 04 1991 14:42 | 16 |
|
Derek, as I said in an earlier note, the real SUPER ALLY (without the
video..) is a very hard player for any defence to play against.
Granted, his work rate may not be that great but he does create a lot
of hassle for the opposition and is involved in a good percentage of
the goals that we score.
As a previous note said, play Ally alongside Tommy Walker and I'm
quite sure we'll get a few more goals (starting on Sunday)
ps Any update on the injury situation? I thought Agnew was being rested
as he was 1 booking off a suspension. George wasn't being risked for
last night so he's probably ready for Sunday.
Danny...
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49.115 | his attitude sucks | AYOV18::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Dec 05 1991 13:02 | 23 |
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Chaps,
I agree with everything that has been said in the last three
replies regarding Dobbin. He has scored some very good goals this
season and he is also a handful for *SOME* defences to handle. In
saying that, he is also the laziest player I have seen at Somerset in
recent years and that includes the lazy wee F***** that now plays with
QOS.
In my opinion, not only is he lazy, but he continually moans and
whinges when things are not going well. He never gives 100% and is
always ready to blame someone else when a move breaks down. Have you
ever seen him "chasing back" after he has lost the ball or been caught
in possession ? He could certainly learn from Tommy Walker in this
department.
I agree he is probably our best forward and as a target man is as good
as anyone in the First Division. What annoys me about Ally Graham is the
fact that he could be a far *BETTER* player if his attitude changed. If
his work rate improved and he stopped his continual moaning he could be
the best striker in the 1st Div.
The potential is there but the determination to improve isn't. That's why
I get continually pissed off with his performances.
...Derek
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49.116 | Can it get any wurse, you better beleive it. | KIRKTN::JADAMS | | Thu Dec 05 1991 22:22 | 23 |
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Re .110
Kev,
Good report. I was surprised to see that Ayr only managed to
score 3 goals (bumpers by all accounts, too) against what must surely
be the worst defence in world professional football. What a record in
recent weeks, one point from a possible 14 which started with us being
joint top of the league. Sickened? don't talk to me about it.
About the animals you mentioned, Doak is an idiot, Pickering hasn't
got enough of a brain to be an idiot and Fowler has always been a fug.
McInnes I am surprised about though. I can only assume that this is
part of his "toughening up" that he hasn't really understood very well.
I for one have never been in any doubt that he has great footballing
talent but never been able to "mix it" with the less subtle midfield
players of the first division (a la Hugh Burns?). I would hope that
he'll be taken aside and told in no uncertain terms that trying to
break somebody's leg(s) is just not on.
Hope that all you boys have an extremely enjoyable Sunday, I'll
look forward to reading all the "YA BEAUTY"'s next week.
Cheers,
John A.
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49.117 | | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Dec 06 1991 13:31 | 17 |
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Chaps,
Is the PMT mounting yet ?
As with most supporters of successful teams I'm finding it increasingly
harder to get excited (ooh arr!!). Cup finals are just becoming to much
of a habit.:-)
Any predictions for Sunday ?
I'll go for a 2-1 win.
...Derek
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49.118 | 3-1 Accies I'm afraid... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Fri Dec 06 1991 16:34 | 1 |
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49.119 | 90 minutes of torture..... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Tue Dec 10 1991 12:15 | 24 |
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What's up chaps, I expected a few cup final post mortems in here by
now.
Sunday was another let down for the large Ayr support who travelled
through to Motherwell. Ayr were utter crap and could have played all
week without scoring. For 90 minutes they resorted to the big punt
upfield and not once did they look like scoring. There wasn't a player
in the team who could hold the ball and try and play some football on
the deck.
Burley must now look at several of the players and think seriously
about replacing them. Bryce, Gardner, Kennedy, Howard and Smith should
be dropped and some changes made before Saturday's game with Thistle
which we have to win to stay close to the leading pack.
Ayr's MOM -- Gary Agnew. The rest hardly get pass marks.
The best part of the day on Sunday was the pre-match entertainment in
the Miner's Welfare club. It was a pity we had to leave and watch the
worst game of football seen for a long time.
Danny...
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49.120 | | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Tue Dec 10 1991 14:45 | 4 |
| Furphy must go before Howard on Sunday's performance
...Bean
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49.121 | Ally for Airdrie!!!!!!! | EAYV01::LGRACE | | Thu Dec 12 1991 09:57 | 14 |
| Well chaps Tom Dunlop from Stage 2 hit us with the rumour yesterday
that Airdrie had offered 200,000 for Ally Graham,well anybody who
knows Tom will tell you that his rumours are usually way out and
usually pure fabrication,however last night I was told by a friend
who is a workmate of Lee Gardner's father that Tom's rumour is
actually true although the deal being offered is Steve Gray plus
money.I don't know what money would be involved but I have been
assured that Airdrie have made an offer and that it is under
consideration by Ayr.What is your views on this one lad's,should
we sell? I know that there is always countless rumours going on
regarding transfers but I do feel that something has got to be done
to strengthen the squad whether it is by selling Graham or Shaw.
Cheers
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49.122 | WHAT I HEARD | AYOV27::BDOCHERTY | | Thu Dec 12 1991 11:55 | 7 |
| RE-121
LAWRENCE I HAD A DRINK WITH IAIN FERGUSON OF THE DAILY RECORD AFTER THE
KILLIE V STIRLING GAME LAST SATURDAY, HE TOLD ME THAT ALLY GRAHAM WOULD
PLAY IS LAST GAME FOR AYR UNITED LAST SUNDAY IN THE B&Q CUP FINAL. THE
FEE HE MENTIONED WAS 200,000 POUNDS AND THE CLUB INVOLVED WAS AIRDRIE
HE DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT STEVE GRAY, BUT THIS IS A POSSIBILTY
AS THE BOY IS LOCAL AND IS READY FOR A MOVE FROM AIRDRIE.
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49.123 | Take the cash..... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Thu Dec 12 1991 12:06 | 12 |
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If this is true then there is no way Burley is going to turn down 200k
for Ally Graham. As much as I like Graham playing up front, Burley has
to strengthen the team all round and as he has no money to spend just
now, he'll surely take the cash.
Most first division teams are now wise to Ally's style of play. They
only need to put a big strong marker on him and our options are
severely reduced.
Danny...
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49.124 | pull the other | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Dec 12 1991 15:09 | 6 |
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200K for Dobbin, you must be kidding ?! As most of you know I don't
rate the big lump of sh*** to highly. 20k would be nearer the mark.
...Derek
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49.125 | 200 pennies ??? | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Thu Dec 12 1991 16:04 | 16 |
| Watch out .....
Beadle's about ...
200k my ass
...Bean
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49.126 | Super skills award my arse ! | AYOV27::DREES | the black & white machine | Mon Dec 16 1991 23:40 | 20 |
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There seems to be a difference of opinion about Dobbin's abilities in
this topic.
Starting from the beginning of this month and continuing 'till the end of
the season I'm going to award him marks out of 10 for performance over
90 mins.
So far I see it like this :
Tue 3rd v Morton - crap for 60 mins, ok for 30 = 3 out of 10
Sun 8th v Hamilton - crap for 90 mins = 0 out of 10
Sat 14th v Partick - crap for 90 mins = 0 out of 10
total so far 3 out of 30.
With 20 league games left what's the chance of him breaking into
double figures ????
...Derek
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49.127 | | AYOU18::JHILL | | Tue Dec 17 1991 09:59 | 13 |
| Delboy,
With the exception of Gary Agnew and perhaps Furpherino you could
apply your marks out of ten to the whole team.
Super Ally must stay !!!!
So must Stevie Evans !!!!!!!!
Steep
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49.128 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Dec 17 1991 12:08 | 40 |
| Steep,
Speaking as one who has witnessed Evans last few performances in
the reserves, I don't think there will be a place made for him in the
first team. Although he actually managed to score last week at Stair
Park, his overall contribution to games has been nothing short of very
little. On the plus side, Duncan George made his return last night in
a reserve match at home against Albion Rovers. Rovers fielded 8
trialists as they also had a match at Rugby park last night (great
planning by the SFA, huh ?) and were forced to play an outfield player
in nets. The guy had played there before but still did not look to sure
and was beaten 3 times, twice by McTurk (different class) and once by
Cally. Fraser also returned last night but was subbed at half-time
after a dreadful tackle by Gallacher of Rovers. Final Score 3-1.
On Saturday's game. I thought Ayr played well for about 50 mins and had
a poor Thistle Team under severe pressure (almost as much as our 5's
team had against your team Del-boy :-) ) before a fluke goal by Irons
with an assist from Howard put the Maryhill Muppets 1-0 up. A dreadful
goal to lose put the Jags 2-0 up and Ayr were left chasing their tails
for 20 mins. Purdie should be shot for letting the ball bounce in front
of him before watching it roll into the net behind him. The ref again
had a nightmare. Willie Young from Clarkston (born in Prestwick
actually) was voted worst referee by the reader of Killie Ken so it's
not just us that think he is crap. The only thing he did right was to
book that diving little scumbag McGlashan for a deliberate dive and an
attempt to get Furphy sent off for a professional foul. If only more
refs could see through the antics of players like him the Scottish game
would be far better off. I hope the next time he tries a dive like
that, he seriously injures himself and as he is being stretchered off,
is given a red card. Might stop him the next time.
Rumours abound at Somerset about Loudon stepping down and also about
David Murray's wife buying Myles Callaghan's shares, (This appears to
be true !!)
Off to Dundee on Saturday, is anyone else, or are you all going Xmas
shopping with your beloved ones :-)
Kev....
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49.129 | Ayr Utd | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Fri Jan 03 1992 09:54 | 4 |
| Happy new year to all Ayr fans
... Bean
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49.130 | It falls to Agnew....1-1 | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Fri Jan 03 1992 12:29 | 22 |
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Happy New Year folks.
A good performance on Wednesday in the new year derby against
Kilmarnock resulting in a 1-1 draw. Killie had the better chances but I
thought Ayr played very well until the last 10 when Killie finished a
bit stronger. Everyone played their part but Purdie, Kennedy (!),
Traynor and George get extra marks. Nice to see Garry Agnew scoring a
cracker against his old club. (Fleeting must be daft to pay 70k for Tom
Black and yet give Agnew a free transfer).
After taking a point from Raith last week and wednesday's point,
hopefully we can take 2 from Stirling tomorrow at Somerset. However, we
all know what happened last time round. I'll go for 3-0 Ayr!!!!!
On a sadder note, Ian McAllister has been forced to announce his
retirement from football due to a serious knee injury. Cally has been
at Somerset since 1977 and was a stalwart at centre-half for many
years. We wish him well.
Danny...
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49.131 | The return of Scissorhands... | AYOV27::DSMITH | | Mon Jan 06 1992 21:39 | 22 |
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What a disaster on Saturday. After playing so well in recent weeks,
Purdie was back to his old routine of loosing daft goals. The first one
was really shocking, letting a weak shot through his legs. The second
was a misunderstanding between Traynor and Purdie.
After loosing the second goal, Ayr totally dominated the game in terms
of possession but bad finishing, very good goalkeeping and not a lot of
luck restricted us to a consolation goal in the last minute.
Stirling have now taken 5 points out of 6 off us this season. If it
was the other way round, we would be sitting in 3rd place. As it is,
our league season is nearly over as far as maintaining a challenge is
concerned unless we take 4 points away to Dundee tomorrow and Hamilton
on Saturday. I don't really think so.
Not a bad draw in the cup, Motherwell are struggling this season only
averaging a goal a game in the league. Hopefully we can find some of
our early season form and who knows what could happen.
Danny...
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49.132 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jan 13 1992 17:00 | 22 |
| Another defeat at the hands of our bogey team. I'm getting rather fed
up following Ayr to Hamilton , knowing their either going to lose
heavily (4-0, 3-1) in the last couple of years) or lose narrowly , like
Saturday. After recovering from losing an early goal, Ayr equalised
through Bryce who slammed the ball in via the bar from about 12 yards.
The game appeared to be fizzling out when a through ball from Napier
found McCluskey all on his own (Howard should have been marking him)
and he had plenty of time to round Purdie and fire home from a very
acute angle via Davie Kennedy. All this with less than 60 seconds to
go. Rather sickening, dontcha think ?
A rather more worrying note is that Burley has still not moved for a
goalie. If Purdie gets injured (and believe me, if i meet him in a dark
alley sometime, he'll be injured) we're left with a 17 year-old Youth
team goalie who is playing for the reserves at the moment. I think we
should approach Ally Maxwell and get him on-loan till the end of the
season. The guy is on the dole and would probably welcome the match
practice, and we would welcome having a goalie for a change.
Celtic reserves at Somerset tonight.......should be fun
Kev...
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49.133 | NEW SIGNING | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | | Mon Jan 13 1992 22:51 | 8 |
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kev
let us know how graeme mcvie plays
ps
rumour has it thet burley bought mcvie because gaz agnew is going
to hearts
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49.134 | 2-2 | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Jan 14 1992 09:52 | 22 |
| Finlay,
Graeme McVie did not even get a game ! He was warming up with the first
team squad at Hamilton on Saturday and I thought he was a certainty for
a run last night but Burley sent out the following team;
Trialist (Derek Atkins ex-Clyde),Burley (!),Vincent,Hood,Allan,Traynor,
Trialist (Chris Ireland ?),Smith,Shaw,Trialist (?),Evans. Subs were
Auld and McCallion.
Ayr lost a goal early on when Atkins failed to hold a shot from Hayes
and Britton followed up to tap in. Ayr equalised in the 46th minute
when Smith headed in at the back post after a Shaw flick on. With 10
minutes left Shaw fired low past McLean to put Ayr ahead but 5 mins
later Martin Hayes flicked over the keeper and tapped in for an
equaliser. A good result for Ayr against a strong Celtic side included
in which were McCahill,Galloway,Britton,McCarrison and Hayes. Most
impressive for Ayr were Burley, Traynor and the Keeper. Celtic's most
outstanding player was Mike Galloway, but only because he managed to
stay on the park for 90 mins.
Kev...
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49.135 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jan 20 1992 13:03 | 23 |
| Another poor performance from Ayr on Saturday. After controlling most
of the first half and missing a couple of chances, they let Montrose
back into the game and , in the end, were lucky to escape with a
point. Twice in the last 15 mins , Ayr had to clear off the line and
the tall Montrose attackers caused the defence all sorts of problems at
corners etc. Burley was a sub but did not play. McLean , Evans and
especially Dobbin were absolutely terrible. With about 5 minutes to go
Graham was easily disposessed on the edge of the area and instead of
chasing the defender, he just stood there looking like the big idiot he
is. At this point, I decided to give him a bit of stick for being lazy.
As there was only 718 people at the game, he heard every word loud and
clear and responded as I thought he would....
He indicated that i perhaps indulged in some form of self-abuse....
He's got a damn cheek. It's the supporters that are paying his wages
and he should at least try and repay them with bit of effort.
Clyde reserves at Somerset tonight.
Burley and McVie should play.
Kev...
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49.136 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Jan 21 1992 10:02 | 15 |
| Ayr 1-1 Clyde.
A match Ayr totally dominated and should have won by about 3 or 4 goals
but a combination of bad finishing and desperate defending restricted
Ayr to a Shaw goal. With ten mins left, Greg Hood fell over the ball
when attempting a passback and Watson scored easily for the Gypsy
Scumbags. Team: Atkins,Burley,Vincent,Hood,Auld,Trialist(?),Trialist
(a wee Englishman called Jamie who is a free from Notts Forest/County
and looked like a good winger),Smith,Shaw,Agnew,Evans. Subs McLean and
Moran.
I would expect the wee English chappie to get another run as he was
about the best man on the park and had an excellent second-half.
Kev...
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49.137 | No quarters this season | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Jan 24 1992 12:27 | 15 |
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Well chaps whats the chances of us springing a wee surprise tomorrow ?
With our water-tight defence up against such talentless forwards as
Cooper,Arnott and Ferguson I can't see there being much of a problem
:-)
On second thoughts I think we'll get humped.
The only comforting thought is that come 17:40 tomorrow not only will
our season be finished but so will Killies
Derzo.
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49.138 | Ayr Utd 1 Motherwell 1 | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Sun Jan 26 1992 17:39 | 18 |
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A fighting perfomance from the boys and in the end we deserved
a replay. Both sides missed good chances in what was an entertaining
game. Hopefully the replay will be just as close although Fir Park
has not been a lucky ground for Ayr in recent seasons !!
In the Mail today it states that all previous Cup games between Ayr
and Motherwell have went to replays with Motherwell winning through
each time. Hopefully we can change that statistic although now that
Motherwell know what to expect I think they'll be too strong for
us.
It was good to see Burley back and although his distribution was poor
I thought he played well.
Derzo.
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49.139 | | KURMA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Mon Feb 03 1992 00:46 | 21 |
| Hi Boys,
I made it back on Saturday to see the Bankies game , not bad at
all ,what a differance Burley makes on the park, I just hope his run in the
team is going to be a long one .Just think where we might have been in
the league if all the part-time fans hadnt chassed him out the team.
Man of the match on Saturday was between George or Howard ,but
they all battled well bar one big lazzy puddin who will remain
nameless.
Just 8 points off second place,what a pity we dont have a board
because like we all said two skillfull players in the 50K bracket
would have just about done it.
BRING ON THE WEll.....
See you all on Saturday
SAL
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49.140 | Hat-trick Traynor sinks Clydebank Cloggers | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Feb 03 1992 12:45 | 23 |
| I thought we were lucky to beat Clydebank. Harvey had a superb game in
midfield and really the bankies had little luck in front of goal. John
Traynor gave the strikers a lesson in how to take chances. 4 shots at
goal and 3 goals. Why can't the rest of the team stick the ball away
first time instead of trying to walk it into the net ? With the score
at 2-1, Purdie had a brainstorm and decided to take the ball for a long
walk. Result ? An indirect freekick for too many steps. 11 Ayr men
along the goal line and luckily, the ball was cleared, no thanks to
Scissorhands. Burley seems to confuse the defence sometimes and other
times he is there to make saving tackles. His passing in the first half
was absolutely terrible,but got better in the second. I would give MoM
to Howard for a good display against that dirty,diving cheating scumbag
Eadie. Although Ally G did not play as well as against Motherwell, he
was being fouled almost every time he went for the ball and Walker was
also given a rough time by Rowe. Rowe and McIntosh (no 5) were both
lucky to stay on the park.
East Stirlingshire reserves tonight and then some Lanarkshire team
tomorrow night.
See you there ?
Kev...
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49.141 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Mon Feb 03 1992 22:42 | 11 |
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re .139
Sal me auld f***hound I liked your little intrusion in the maggot
note. They seem a little sensitive at the moment so I'd tread
carefully, we wouldn't want to upset them too much :-)
ps. They'll be plenty of time next season to do that !!
Derzo.
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49.142 | OOT THE CUP AGAIN........ | BHUNA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Wed Feb 05 1992 04:44 | 6 |
| Anyone at Fir Park last night ?If so could you give me an update on
the match ,crowd and performance.
cheers Sal............
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49.143 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Feb 05 1992 13:54 | 58 |
| Motherwell 4-1 Ayr United
Crowd 6,500 or so. All Ayr fans behind one goal, uncovered ,in the
rain for 90 minutes.
Anyone watching the game on TV last night will now know that 10 minutes
of infantile defending cost Ayr a chance in the replay. It was fairly
even early on with the midfields prominent. After 9 mins a through ball
to Arnott was missed by Burley and Purdie seemed to catch Arnott's legs
although he did make a meal of the challenge. Purdie was booked and
Nijholt slotted away the penalty. Ayr replied well and forced 'Well
back for the next 15 minutes until another long ball from Philliben
found Duncan George and O'Donnell tangling in the box. O'Donnell
reacted quicker to the loose ball and played it through the advancing
Howard's legs for Arnott to shoot high into the net. 2 minutes later it
was 3-0 when brilliant play between Cooper,O'Donnell and McKinnon ended
with the latter's cross being bulletted home at the near post by Kirk.
Ayr were rocked and with Burley having a bit of a nightmare and Kennedy
looking very confused in the rightback/midfield position, it was only a
matter of 8 minutes before it was 4-0 when a Kirk cross was flicked on
by Arnott for Ferguson to fire home at the back post. All the goals
involved the rightback position where no-one seemed to take any
responsibility or know where they should be playing. Burley continually
confused the defence by playing 4 yards behind them and leaving everyone
on-side.
The second half brought a welcome change in the Ayr performance and
they salvaged a lot of pride with a battling display albeit against a
team which appeared to have slipped a gear. Ally Graham netted with a
looping header in 60 mins which beat Thomson at the back post and
George came close with two shots. The introduction of Shaggy for Smith
had sparked this mini-revival as the 'well defence struggled to cope
with the big man's surging runs. Weir came on late for Howard who took
an ankle knock and although we forced 3 corners in the last 5 minutes
the game was over. Best for Ayr was the impeccable Gary Agnew who must
surely get player of the year . Burley and Kennedy and possibly Traynor
had poor matches, as did Bryce, but at the end of the day, Ayr will
look back at those 10 minutes as the reason why we got humped at Fir
Park and not Ibrox.
Faced with a total slagging from the Motherwell support; i.e. "What's
it like to follow sh!t*" and "Cheerio Cheerio" the Ayr support retorted
with some rather tastless if effective ditties along the lines of
"Heigh Ho , heigh ho its off to WORK we go" and "We've got jobs, we've
got jobs , you've no , you've no" etc etc. The latter being accompanied
with the waving of �5 notes in the air. Not that I'd get involved with
that sort of behaviour of course.
Meadowbank on Saturday, who beat some team last night on penalties. It
seems that is the second time in three years it has happened to this
team. Shame. Seems it was the same guy who missed both vital penalties.
Bigger Shame.
Let's hope the 'bankies are a wee bit puffed out after their exertions
and Ayr can repeat the 7-0 drubbing inflicted earlier in the season.
Kev....
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49.144 | | AYOV10::MDONNELLY | Leaning against the spin | Wed Feb 05 1992 14:08 | 12 |
|
This is indeed a revelation. The town of Ayr has 0% unemployment?
Looks like AUFC have as much football ability as its fans have taste.
And the Motherwell players certainly made a fine JOB of dumping Ayr out
of the cup.
Michael
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49.145 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Feb 05 1992 14:34 | 11 |
| Touchy touchy Mick. A wee bit of home town pride ? Nothing wrong with
that.
I somehow think it's neither the first nor last time that sort of thing
will be heard at Fir Park.
I did say it was tasteless.
Just like your cheap jibes at Ayr United's footballing ability :-)
Kev...
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49.146 | All in good fun... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Wed Feb 05 1992 18:20 | 37 |
|
Ayr were well(!) beaten last night due to, as Kev said, some bad
defending in the first half. Motherwell were far quicker in the middle
of the park and their movement upfront left Ayr's defence struggling at
times. However, a big improvement in the second half saw Ayr score a
very good goal and were a bit unfortunate on other occassions which the
highlights on BBC didn't show.
I find it hard to understand why Smith started the game last night. I
think his last game was against Hamilton in the B&Q cup in November. He
did nothing last night and must surely be on his way back south. Once
he was replaced by Shaw, we looked a lot better going forward. Traynor
was totally lost in midfield, Kennedy struggled throughout but gave
100% as usual. Howard continues to improve at the back, his
distribution is getting better every game.
With regards to the "sick" chants made by SOME Ayr fans, these sort of
chants are made at every football ground in the country, have been for
years and no doubt will continue to be made for years to come. I
personally found it rather amusing, but then again I don't take a game
of football as seriously as others. Our team were getting gubbed, we
were getting soaked, we had spent a few bob getting to the game, hey
whats a bit of fun!!!!
On another note, I had a very enjoyable journey home (yes even after a
4-1 gubbing). This was due to West Sound reporting on the penalty shoot
out at Bugme Park. Quote Nick Larkin, that well known Kille supporter,
as Tommy Burns moved forward to take the crucial last penalty.
"If there's one player you would put your mortgage on to score from
a penalty it's Tommy Burns."
Seconds later "And the keepers saved it"
Danny...
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49.147 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Feb 05 1992 19:58 | 14 |
|
Wither it's in bad taste or not I don't give a toss !
The highlight of the night was the singing of :
"what's it like to have nae job !"
to the tune of "what's it like to follow shite"
Excellent stuff !!
Nearly as enjoyable as TB's excellently taken penalty !
Derzo.
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49.148 | take that !!! | KURMA::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Wed Feb 05 1992 20:43 | 9 |
| re-1
"the highlight of the night for me was the singing"
Your obviously easily amused,but following a team like Ayr,you,ll
be used to it..afterall you's get gubbed more times than you win,so
you have to do somthing to amuse yourselves.
Colin (SQF Jambo)
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49.149 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Feb 05 1992 21:34 | 14 |
|
Who invited you into the Ayr topic sonny ?? Keeping away from the
Rangers note after yer wee greetie moan about cheats are we.
Q. What's Ayr and Hearts got in common ?
A. They'll both win f*** all this season.
At least one of the Edinburgh sides has the bottle to compete
against the old firm and actually win something.
Derzo.
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49.150 | Your not singing anymore shhhhhhhhh | BHUNA::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Wed Feb 05 1992 22:07 | 15 |
|
RE-1
Who invited you to call me sonny ??? SIR will do fine for now.
As for my comments in the Rangers note !!!
What the hell has it got to do with you..It's been that long since
you's have played them,I'm amazed you even remember who they are....
As for winning F*** all??? what round are you's in the cup ????
at least we've progressed further than you's (AGAIN)
after our 3-0 result over those Paisley Barstewards...
SQF Jambo
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49.151 | Marroon Balloon | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Feb 05 1992 22:29 | 17 |
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re -1
You're some supporter SONNY !!
Your team is playing in the Scottish Cup and your not even
there. Instead your spouting your usual nonsense in these
notes.
Now how does that wee tune go ?...
"part time jambo.....you're just a part time jambo"
Now run along back to topic 63 our I'll send you to bed without
any supper !!
Derzo
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49.153 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Feb 05 1992 23:13 | 17 |
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re: .150
And I quote :
"at least we've progressed further than you's (AGAIN)"
Your talking nonsense again Sonny. Why don't you think before
you rant. Last season did the jambos not make a first round cup
exit at the hands of the mighty Dunfermline ?! Whereas the black
and white machine went all the way to the quarters.
Have a nice day now...
Derzo.
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49.154 | Black & White machine ??? we've converted to colour in the big CITY | PAKORA::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Wed Feb 05 1992 23:48 | 7 |
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we actually got knocked out by Airdrie...
so why don't you get your facts right !!!
as for you's managing to get further than us on a couple of
occasions....
WOW...that's somthing to put in the history books.
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49.155 | I'll be back on Monday | KURMA::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Thu Feb 06 1992 03:30 | 6 |
| re.153
I thought the object of being in the cup was to win it ???
You seem to be quite happy if you's reach a � final....
mmmmmmmmmm strange people from Ayr :-)
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49.156 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Feb 06 1992 10:00 | 13 |
| Who cares whether you'll be back on Monday ? Nobody in Ayr is
interested in reading your nonsense. Let's face it SQF Jambo, your
entries into anybody elses notes are nothing short of juvenile and we
can all do without you. Since the Rangers and Celtic notes went so
quiet, you had to turn your venom on Ayr, lighten up buddy, your not
funny. And as for your comments about jobs in SQF and Ayr.......
I'm sure the site management in Ayr would be very interested to know
what you base your comments on.
Kev...
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49.157 | | AYOV10::MDONNELLY | Leaning against the spin | Thu Feb 06 1992 14:23 | 22 |
| >> Wither it's in bad taste or not I don't give a toss !
>> The highlight of the night was the singing of :
>> "what's it like to have nae job !"
>> to the tune of "what's it like to follow shite"
>> Excellent stuff !!
Understandable in the heat of the fray Derek, but was you brain in gear
when you wrote the note? Not very complementary to your mentality is
it?
BTW, is that the same tune as "won ****-all and never will"?
Michael
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49.158 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Feb 06 1992 20:20 | 18 |
49.159 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Feb 06 1992 21:16 | 18 |
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Mick,
When you follow a team like Ayr you have to revert to such
harmless little ditties to detract from the crap your watching on the
pitch. I would have thought you would have understood this as Celtic
have not been known for their overwhelming success in recent season.
IMHO songs like "what's it like to have nae job" pale into
insignificance when compared to the racist and bigoted songs sung
by the old firm.
Why not concentrate in getting your own house in order before
you jump on your high horse at something that was basically
just a bit of fun sung by the followers of a team that were getting
humped at the time.
Derzo.
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49.160 | for JAMBO read DUMBO | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Feb 06 1992 22:42 | 8 |
49.161 | | AYOV10::MDONNELLY | Leaning against the spin | Fri Feb 07 1992 14:09 | 17 |
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I couldn't agree more Derek - the bigoted stuff sang on the terracings
of Parkhead & Ibrox is disgusting - that's one reason why I stopped
going years ago. So the only house I have to put in order is the one
on Dalmellington Road!
It's not a question of my high horse, but (as Kevin detected) your note
touched a wee nerve as I do have family and friends who work(ed) in
Ravenscraig. So forgive me if I don't find the idea of people I know
loosing their job and livelihood very amusing.
Now let's get back to football.
Michael
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49.162 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Feb 07 1992 18:22 | 6 |
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Okay Mike, point noted.
Back to football it is......
Derzo.
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49.164 | I don't need to explain my actions | BHUNA::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Sat Feb 08 1992 16:00 | 16 |
| re.156
Kev as far as I am concerned,It was a bit of banter I was having with
Derzo.If any the comments I made offended YOU then I apologise. :-)
As for your comments about me and the Celtic & Rangers topics,I don't
really think it is any of your buisness,the comments I put in might
seem juvenile to you but they were put in for a bit of light hearted
humour.(obviously you don't have a sense of humour) ???
re-my remarks about SQF and Ayr,again put in as a witty reply to the
previous note,there was no malice intended so obviously you took it
the wrong way.
Colin (SQF Jambo)
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49.165 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Mon Feb 10 1992 09:28 | 2 |
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49.166 | BORRING....... | KURMA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Mon Feb 10 1992 09:52 | 24 |
| hi lads,
Saturdays performance must rate as one of the worst this
season,against a team of no hopers who would truggle against
Whitlets Vics..The only players who showed any imagination where
Furphy ,Agnew and the very impresive McTurk..I dont realy know
what more George Burley can do without money,but changes are needed.
I would start with kicking Tommy Bryce and the goalless Tommy Walker
back up the A77.Also I think Ally Grahams cent performances warrant
a wee spell on the bench ,in order to give McTurk and , or Shaw a
longer run inthe team...
enough moans for one day Graeme....
P.S Is wee Lawrance Grace still out there ?? If so Iam begining
to see what you mean about big Ally,A lamppost would have been more
effective on Saturday....
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49.167 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Feb 10 1992 12:29 | 16 |
| re .164
Of course, Colin, it's me who is wrong. How silly of me not to see the
side-splitting humour of all your notes. Perhaps I was just suffering
from post-Fir Park depression....
And then again, perhaps they are not particularly amusing...(which is
why they keep getting set hidden)
I do consider that I have a sense of humour, perhaps not on the same
wavelength as yours, but when you have followed Ayr United around
Scotland for over 20 years, you tend to acquire one along the way.
Now can we get back to football ?
Kev...
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49.168 | Thompson for Ayr | MASALA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Wed Feb 12 1992 13:36 | 16 |
| HI GUYS,
The latest in the long saga of rumours is that the gaffer is
interested in Thompson of QOS in a player plus cash deal..
I find it hard to believe because Aberdeen had an offer of
100,000 turned down.The only possible offer Ayr could make would be
Walker,Evans,Bryce and Weir plus the usuall 10,000...
I dont even think an idiot like Mcleod would accept an offer
like that....
see you all later Graeme.
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49.169 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Feb 12 1992 14:20 | 8 |
|
From what I read a few months back, Andy Thomson is being watched very
closely by a number of clubs, including Liverpool and Aberdeen....
...Somehow i just can't see him in an Ayr strip :-)
Kev...
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49.170 | part time fan | KURMA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Wed Feb 12 1992 15:15 | 16 |
| HI KEV,
Nice to hear from someone from the old country, I was begining to
think you lot had lost your tonges,has Danny and Derzo left the country
this week???
Ona more serious note are you hading for Firhill on Saturday? If
so could you do your usual report on Monday ,because being a part time
supporter I wont make it on Saturday.......
see you at the next home game ....SAL
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49.171 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Feb 12 1992 17:47 | 11 |
| I'll be there Sal, a report on the events will follow. If you would
like to know anything in particular ie who played,who didn't play, the
names of the Ayr support......that sort of thing, let me know.
BTW, the youth team are in the semis of the BP Youth Cup after a 3-1
victory over Arbroath on Sunday. Some good prospects in there too.
Derzo has nothing interesting to write , but I'm not sure what's wrong
with Danny these days.
Kev...
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49.172 | I'm Back....for a wee while anyway! | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Thu Feb 13 1992 09:22 | 12 |
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re last
End of season blues in mid February I'm afraid. I'm working this
Saturday so I won't be paying a visit to sunny Firhill to see us
getting beat by Thistle for the 4th time this season.
We're away from home for the next 3 Saturday's; Thistle, Morton and
Stirling. How does 1 point from 6 sound?
Danny...
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49.173 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Feb 13 1992 09:41 | 9 |
| re last
>>How does 1 point from 6 sound?
Hopeful ?
Kev..
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49.174 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Feb 13 1992 09:51 | 16 |
|
Kev,
that's not nice....it's hard for a mere mortal like myself
when there's such a talented rovving reporter as yourself
about. :-)
I'll just have to make do with continually gubbing you
at TT !!
Derzo.
ps. Sal, why would any player with Thomson's ability want to
come to the worst full-time team in British football ?
Methinks this ones from the "SALbeano land of make beleive". :-)
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49.175 | BRAVE FACE | KURMA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Thu Feb 13 1992 09:52 | 26 |
| Hi Dan,
Oh ye of little faith......One point out of six ,I hope not,
I think its high time we did Partick,because lets face it theyve
done us three times this season against the run of play,the law of
averages says something has got to give,as for Stirling the same law
says their on for a real going over.Its the tie at Greenock that
worries me I feel we have had a wee bit of luck against them and I
feel its about to run out.So my bravest prediction is 3 or 4 out of
6 with the 3 looking the best bet ...
You never know the pace of McTurk may give our styleless team
a new dimention..heres hoping anyway....
See ya Sal
p.s Any news of transfers in the Ayrshir Post????????
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49.176 | | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Fri Feb 14 1992 12:11 | 19 |
|
Well lads, what's your view on the latest bit of gossip in the Daily
Record? Stevie Archibald playing for Ayr at Firhill tomorrow.
I know Burley is a bit p'd off with the lack of goals from the
strikers at the moment, but I honestly don't see the need to play
Archibald in the team. Surely he should be bringing in a few of the
youngsters and giving them a run in the team. We have no chance of
getting promoted, we're safe from relegation, so why bring in a 35 year
old has been?
Archibald says he is so desperate to get back into first team
football, that he would play for nothing. This is the guy who was
asking for �1500 a game from St. Mirren and others not so long ago.
I say we don't need him!!!!
Danny...
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49.177 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Feb 17 1992 12:05 | 52 |
|
Partick Thistle 4 -1 Ayr United
Ayr's second succesive 4-1 away defeat. After looking very sharp for
the first 30 mins Ayr fell apart when Shaw scored an opportunist goal
from a tight angle. It was 2 against 5 when McGlashan found Shaw wide
on the right and he cut into the box and fired a drive high into the
top corner at the near post. Purdie really should have been better
positioned. For most of the first half, Rae and Duffy kicked and shoved
and held everything in an Ayr jersey, yet the only player booked was
George for a typically tough challenge in the midfield. The linesman on
our side missed 3 offsides in a row and almost cost Ayr a second goal
when Irons shot past from an obviously offside position. 1-0 at
half-time was a travesty and with Ayr still looking the likelier side,
the second-half started in a similar fashion to the first. Ayr won a
free kick on the edge of the Partick box in 47 mins and Burley rolled
it to Agnew whose shot was held at the second attempt by Murdoch.
Partick scored in the next attack when Farningham beat Purdie, again at
his near post with a low shot from 10 yards. 10 mins later it was 3-0
when McGlashan forced a Rae knockdown home after a corner. Purdie made
possibly the worst attempt i have EVER seen at saving a shot at this
goal. He really has to go. How long can Burley go on playing this guy?
Bryce and Shaw came on for McLean and Archibald and after good play by
McTurk and Shaw, the ball broke to Bryce who shot home via the far post
from about 18 yards. Partick had the final say when Irons hit a free
kick over the wall and past the despairing dive of Purdie in 88 mins.
McTurk almost scored in the last minute when after beating about 4 men
his shot hit Law and rolled towards the goal line, only for Law to
clear it off the line. The final whistle brought a torrent of boos and
jeers, mainly directed at the directors, not the players.
team
Purdie * Lost 4 goals , enough said
Burley ** Passing still incredibly bad
Agnew ** A poor game by his own standards
Traynor ** Could not cope with pace of Shaw and McGlashan
Auld *** Solid in the air, but slow on the ground
Kennedy ** Worst game for a while
McLean ** Never really got into the game. Subbed for Shaw
McTurk **** Different Class. Best Ayr player by far
Graham ** Tried (!) but nothing worked for him. Continually fouled
Archibald*** Showed enough touches to prove he is still dangerous
George ** Early booking quietened him down
Shaw ** Looked dangerous when playing alongside Tucker
Bryce ** Took his goal well, did little else.
approx 500 Ayr fans in a crowd of 2,600
Kev...
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49.178 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Feb 17 1992 16:46 | 14 |
|
Forgot to mention that the latest rumour is that 2 Ayr players will be
departing to an unknown first division club in exchange for a left
winger.
Any ideas who it could be ?
Evans and Walker for Paul McDonald ??
Purdie and Graham for Donald Dewar ??
:-)
Kev...
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49.179 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Feb 18 1992 09:55 | 14 |
|
Partick reserves at Somerset last night...guess the score
Aye , 4-1 to Partick.
I'm getting really sick of looking at them this season. McTurk scored a
cracker for Ayr to equalise but the roof fell in with 15 mins to go and
a penalty in the last minute made it 4-1.
It appears that the left winger may be Gordon Mair, ex Motherwell and
currently languishing with Clydebank. No news on the players moving.
Personally I'd rather we bought Paul Harvey, but what do I know ?
Kev...
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49.180 | ???????? | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Tue Feb 18 1992 22:32 | 15 |
| HI KEV,
Gordon Mair made his first appearance for Clydebank last season at
Somerset where he played on the right wing , and made a fool of Joe
Love for most of the game ,including a lovely cross for Ken Eaddie
to score the winner. I know he was only playing against a wee silly
full back but did look the part never the less.Very fast,strong and
supplies a very accurite cross,,but the question has to be asked ,if
he cant get a game for Clydebank ,will he be any use for us????
sal......
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49.181 | ......... | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Wed Feb 26 1992 10:35 | 13 |
|
The latest news , fresh from the hotline is that D Purdie is seriously
considering giving up football in favour of a career move with the firm
he is with just now.So lok out for Utd signing anew keeper.
sal.....
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49.182 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Feb 26 1992 14:03 | 14 |
| Oh Joy !!
The bringer of glad tidings, Sal
I hope it's true, I just can't take much more of him playing for Ayr.
Super Cammy has restarted very light training and should be back for
the beginning of the season. Stevie Itchiball will not be signing for
Ayr as Burley has stated, "We must invest in younger talent"
The reserves won 2-1 at QOS on Monday. Walker and Gardner scored.
Anyone for Stirling ?
Kev.....
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49.183 | ....... | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Wed Feb 26 1992 14:32 | 17 |
| Hi Kev,
Glad to hear that Archiebald is on his way..Clubcall said
that Evans has been freed and is having talks with Clydebank ,I
would of thought Stevie would have been worth around 30K..
I also heard that the fulltime staff was being cut to about 13
or 14 ,do you know the current amount of fulltimers at Ayr ? and if so
how many would that make getting the boot.
No I wont be at Stirling, but I expect to see full details
in here as usual on Monday morning...
Sal...................
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49.184 | Clearootthekrap | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Feb 26 1992 15:14 | 28 |
| I think the following are full time (correct me if I'm wrong)
Duncan
Burley
Agnew
Furphy
Howard
Kennedy
McLean
Gardner
Bryce **
Walker **
Graham
Weir
Smith **
Vincent **
Hood
Evans ** (already going)
Traynor
George
Fraser
I make that 19 less 5 (**) = 14
Any thoughts ?
Kev...
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49.185 | ...... | KURMA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Wed Feb 26 1992 15:46 | 19 |
| rep 184
I agree with your 5 mugs ,but if the pool is to be strenghtend
by the usual close season of say 3 or 4 new signings ,then 3 or 4
other players have got to go .Any thougts who they might be??
At a wild guess,I would say that these are all possible
Agnew sold for what ever he can get and replaced by "him fae Clyde"
Graham to be sold in the same way and replaced by McTurk and Shaw
both also partimers ,Ialso think that Furphy could also face the
axe to raise more cash ,that would leave a central defensive perm.
from Howard,Hood,Auld or Burley ,but the more Ithink of it Auld will be
of also ...Doesnt leave alot does it????
Oh that was a good wee moan.....
Sal
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49.186 | Blame it on the crazy gang...... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Wed Feb 26 1992 18:43 | 42 |
|
Hot off the press, well the Ayrshire Post to be exact.
Ayr have just announced a loss of 206k for the past year, putting the
club 100k in debt. Despite these losses, Ayr will continue as a
full-time club, albeit on a smaller scale, as the premier league is
still their aim.
Burley, currently trying to balance the books has admitted that he's
having to give players away as no teams are prepared to buy the
misfits. Interestingly, since Burley arrived at Somerset he has given
free transfer to the following full time players.
1. Willie Cunningham to Kilwinning Rangers
2. Chris Ellis to Kilwinning Rangers
3. Peter Conlan to Glenafton Juniors
4. Joe Love to Stranraer
5. David Smyth to QOS
6. Alan Gilliespie to QOS
As can be seen, these players aren't even good enough for part-time
first division sides. Ally McLeod and the crazy gang have left Burley
with a very hard job to get the club back on an even-keel.
Also given frees recently are Steve Vincent and the future Scotland
captain, Robert Brown. Stranraer offered cash for Evans earlier in the
season. This was rejected by Ayr. He is now on a free and although
Dumbarton and Clydebank have offered him terms, he seems to be quite
willing to see out his full-time contract in the reserves.
Mike Smith is also on the transfer list, but Burley hopes to get some
cash for him.
Onto Saturday's game, Duncan George is out through suspension and also
misses the Morton game next midweek. Lee Gardner is expected to return.
Ayr have to win this game to maintain 7th spot and put a bit of space
between themselves and Stirling who are only 2 points behind in 8th
place.
Danny...
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49.187 | GLOOM AND DOOM | KURMA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Thu Feb 27 1992 09:10 | 27 |
| Hi Dan,
Bad news you bring today, but is anyone realy surprised? As we
all know ,with an investment of say 150K on three premier class players
we would have been thrown into the promotion race, this would have
added about 3000 to our home gates ,this would give an extra
220K to 260K in revenue to the club thus paying back the 150K
investment and leaving around 100K to wipe out the seasons debt .
Who knows promotion might just have been achieved ,or at worst a solid
platform would have been built for the following season where more
investment of the same level would surely done the trick, St Johnstone
is the example that spring to mind.
Not our board though ,their main objective is to conn the fans
into thinking they are ambitious , while season by season you will
actually see the the return of Ayr to partime football ,where they
would still have been had David Murray notrocked the boat...
The future is in the hands of the support ,who have seen
nothing but 1st and 2nd div football for the last 15 years..and seen
their favourites sink from giving the Rangers and Celtics a good run
for their money to competing with Stirling and Clydebank in terms of
stature,and often being out bided in the transfer market by such
minnows.....Sad days indead........
GMcD...
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49.189 | who's gonna take the bait 1st ??? | PAKORA::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Sat Feb 29 1992 11:42 | 10 |
| awright troops (and Kev)
away to the mighty Albion today ??? If any of you's are going for the
train to the game,remember It's Anfield in Stirling and not Liverpool.
Then again the amount of fans you's take to an away game you's are just
as well to stick to your tandem.
SQF Jambo
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49.190 | Your just big-game supporters.... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Mon Mar 02 1992 09:55 | 16 |
|
re last
I see the loyal Jambo supporters were leaving early again on Saturday
long before the end of the game with Celtic. This isn't the first time
this has happened this season. A couple of defeats and the part-timers
pack it in.
Danny...
ps at least we can find our way to most grounds in Scottish football!!
After all, we've been there in the last few years!!
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49.191 | Phew!! | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Mar 03 1992 11:00 | 65 |
| Stirling Albion 1 - 2 Ayr United
Ayr's last ever game on the plastic pitch brought their first away win
since November and Albion's first home defeat since October 26th. Ayr
started with the following line-up;
Purdie,Kennedy,Agnew,Furphy,Howard,McLean,Gardner,Bryce,Graham,Traynor
and McTurk. Subs, Walker and Shaw. Kicking into a strong wind in the
first half, Ayr found it difficult and in only 6 minutes the first
corner of the match was pushed against the face of the bar by Purdie
and then cleared. The second corner brought the opening goal when Moore
met it and sent the ball past Purdie in 13 mins. Ayr were frequently in
trouble and when Furphy limped off after an assault by Reilly, the task
looked even more difficult. Traynor moved to sweeper and Walker came on
to play up front. The second half was a complete change and it was Ayr
who did all the pressing and Albion were pushed back for long spells.
A long pass from Traynor found McTurk unmarked on the half-way line and
he ran in unchallenged on McGeown. Tucker's weak shot hit the keeper's
legs but the fast surface allowed the ball to run on into the net. Lee
Gardner was having a very good game playing wide on the right and Paul
McLean was running the midfield on his own. In 66 minutes Walker scored
perhaps his best ever goal for Ayr when, after great work by Gardner,
McLean and Graham, he rifled a shot across McGeown and into the far
corner from about 16 yards. Walker had to go off injured after twisting
his knee and Shaggy came on, going close with his first attempt. The
game was won by now and some careful defending ensured the points came
to Ayr. Howard was booked in the last minute along with Vinnie Moore
after an off-the-ball incident which ended with Moore lying on the
pitch.
Marks for Merit
Purdie ** Poor at crosses
Kennedy *** Bad first half
Agnew *** Off the boil recently
Furphy ** Subbed after 30 mins
Howard **** One of his best games
McLean **** " " " " "
Gardner **** " " " " "
Bryce ** Looked lost
Graham ** Did little
Traynor *** Lost in midfield,but deputised well for Furphy
McTurk *** Quiet game, but first goal for the club
Walker *** Superb Goal
Shaw ** No time to shine
Last night the reserves defeated Stranraer at Somerset 2-0 with goals
from Smith and a McVie free-kick. Stranraer included McCann,Love,Sloan
and Evans, all ex-Ayr and Walker,Cook,Geraghty ex-Killie. Ayr fielded
7 players aged 17 and also included Norman Montgomery, Glenafton's 33
goal striker who had a great match. Derek Allan was outstanding in
defence and is one to watch for the future. Also look out for Micheal
Robertson getting a run for the first team before the end of the
season, he is a brilliant keeper and will surely make it in the big
time.
Kev...
p.s. It's a good job you're not on "A Question of Sport" Colin,
Liverpool play at Anfield but Stirling play at Annfield.
Spot the difference ?
Spot the Loony ?
:-)
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49.192 | info please.. | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Tue Mar 03 1992 22:36 | 12 |
| Hi Kev ,
Is this Graeme McVie any good ? Will he make the first team next
season with a view to pushing Agnew up to Bryce"s position,in left
midfield?
Also could you give more info on this "Monty" fellow from the
Glens? i.e size,pace,skill and all tht stuff.
Graeme....
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49.193 | | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Wed Mar 04 1992 05:26 | 18 |
|
awright troops
re.190
Danny you might know the way to 1st division grounds but unless you've
got a very good memory I doubt very much you'll remember the way to the
Premier league grounds. :-)
re.191
Kev you say at the bottom of your letter,'spot the loony' ???
I can't remember ever seeing you !!!! :-)
SQF Jambo
P.s
Good match report Kev.
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49.194 | First right, second left... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Wed Mar 04 1992 10:32 | 25 |
|
re .193
Well Mr. Patrick, your wrong yet again.
Having followed Ayr Utd for the best part of 18 years, I have in fact
visited every Premier League ground in Scotland on several occasions.
I have also visited most other senior grounds in Scotland, the
exceptions being Forfar, Stenhousemuir and Berwick. I even had the
misfortune of taking several trips through to Edinburgh and getting
totally drenched standing on the uncovered terracing at Tynecastle.
What a dump!!!!
Being such a fine and friendly crowd in this note, we will be more
than happy to give you directions to football grounds outside
Edinburgh. We will even let you know the prices of entry to these
grounds. Please do not feel in any way embarressed to ask but being a
part-time supporter, you probably need as much help as you can get.
:-) :-) :-)
Danny...
ps looks like the Jambos will be winning as much as Ayr this season.
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49.195 | Bring On The Boys !! | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 04 1992 10:43 | 21 |
| re 192
Graeme McVie is settling into the club after a couple of shaky games to
begin with. He is now captain of the reserves, playing at left-back but
is equally at home in midfield, where I think he may get a run before
the end of the season. He could probably take Bryce's place better than
Agnew and I'd rather see Garry stay where he is most at home.
On the subject of Monty;
Size ? Well, his nickname is "Wee Barrel" what does that tell you.
Pace ? None that I saw.
Skill ? That's a different story. Held the ball well, tricky.
All in all, I think he'd benefit from some serious training and
getting fit before a real decision could be made. Burley has stated
that he will be tried again. On a good note, Alan McTurk's employer
has agreed to let him turn full-time and guarantee his job should it
not work out. Watch this space for a contract from the Boss.....
Kev...
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49.196 | Personally, I'm not swallowing that one !! | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 04 1992 16:42 | 15 |
|
I find this very suspicious,
The game tonight has been postponed due to a waterlogged pitch.
Given the fact that Morton were not too impressed at playing the game
at all,it's even more suspicious.
Reports are "flooding" in that the whole first team squad at Greenock
were spotted hoseing the surface. These will no doubt be denied in the
Cappilowe Bugle.
It's hardly even been raining !
Kev...
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49.197 | In your Somerset SLUMS | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Wed Mar 04 1992 20:30 | 22 |
| RE.194
Well Mr Smith (very common name)
As for being a part time supporter,there is little more I can do seeing
as how I work 4 days on 4 off and inevitably (sp) I work weekends.
I too have been to most grounds in Scotland,including Berwick :-)
in the old days when the Jambo's were in the 1st division.
re- your remark about Tynecastle being a dump,I do agree it is'nt the
best stadium in Scotland,but I would'nt exactly say Somerset Park
was one of the best,and I hope if you ever get a chance to return to
Tynecastle before we move it pours of rain all day and you get soaked
again.
SQF Jambo...
P.S.
Just incase your wondering why I'm not at the game tonight,I'm actually
in training Sal (who does'nt hate Jambo's as much as you)
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49.198 | ??????? | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Wed Mar 04 1992 20:30 | 14 |
| KEV,
Whats this Ive been hearing about a all seated Somerset for about
2 million pounds can you update...
Also when and where do the under 18 team play their BP semi final
and who is it against??
Is Duncan George free from suspention for the Hamilton game and if
not when will he be ready to play again???
GMcD....
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49.199 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Mar 04 1992 21:05 | 18 |
|
Ah...the SQF jambo returneth to the Ayr notes.
Nice to have you back sonny. We've missed your rants.
It always brightens up our dreary lives reading one of your crap
notes. Long may you remain illiterate.
Now that the bubble's burst it shouldn't take Celtic long to take 2nd
spot from you.
Another barren season for the old farts....sorry jam tarts.
Del.
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49.201 | Have a nice day !!! Sal will but tou a pint next time he sees you | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Wed Mar 04 1992 21:27 | 12 |
| now now Del boy,no need to be bitchy.....
I only write in this dreary topic to keep myself occupied,and too read
your p*ss poor replies........Oh and too keep Sal amused as well..
SQF Jambo
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49.202 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Mar 04 1992 21:46 | 6 |
49.203 | | KURMA::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Wed Mar 04 1992 21:53 | 6 |
| re-1
maybe Sal does need to be amused,but he says the guys from the East
coast are a lot more friendlier than those he left in the West :-)
only bitchin
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49.204 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Mar 04 1992 22:28 | 6 |
|
More friendlier eh....wink wink nudge nudge say no more !
Bit of a (rent) boy are we Colin. :-)
Del.
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49.206 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Mar 04 1992 23:53 | 8 |
|
Colin,
the wee smiley face after the sentence in my last note meant it
was said tongue in cheek. No offence was meant....don't take things
so seriously. :-)
Del.
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49.207 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Mar 05 1992 10:01 | 25 |
| Sal,
The board had a feasability study done on making Somerset
all-seater. The result was a �10million bill. This frightened them into
their own plans which initially mean, making the railway end the home
end, extending the main stand towards the railway shed. Seating behind
the goal at both ends and eventual seating and cover opposite the
stand. All this from a board which said it could do the same as Murray
without his help. If Murray had got control in 1988, then the stadium
would already be all-seated.
The BP Youth Cup Semi is at home against Partick Thistle on a date
still to be arranged. I'll let you know when I find out. The other semi
is a repeat of the past 2 finals with Dundee Utd meeting Hibs.
Duncan George would have worked off his suspension last night if the
game had been on but will now miss Saturday's game at home. Howard is
also facing a ban, probably the away match at Kirkcaldy on the 14th.
Colin, I worked the same shift pattern as you for over 2 years and
still did not miss any home games and probably only about a dozen away
games over the 2 seasons. It all depends on how dedicated you are and
of course, if you have a sympathetic supervisor...............:-)
Kev...
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49.208 | You've got to laugh..:-) :-) :-) :-) | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Thu Mar 05 1992 10:16 | 17 |
|
re .197
I don't believe it, Mr. Patrick (very weird name) has actually come
up with a true statement. Yes indeed, I have a very common surname.
How long did it take you to find that out? Word on the street is that
you spent several hours going through a phone directory to find out.
Danny...
ps I would rather see Hearts win the Premier League than Rangers or
Celtic.
pps My boss is a Hearts fan, I've got to say that !!!! :-)
ppps Lighten up Mr. Patrick, it's only a bit of fun.
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49.209 | Cum on the Jambo's | BHUNA::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT let it all out | Thu Mar 05 1992 20:26 | 12 |
|
Danny I know it it's only fun,.......
Kev,my supervisor probably would'nt mind me taken every other Saturday
off,but I don't think my wife would be happy when I could'nt go on
holiday this year as I'd used them all to se the jam-tarts.....
as for dedication,before I started in here I went to almost all the
Jambo's games,home and away for the past 14 years and still try to go
when I can. so I still regard myself as a SUPPORTER and not a part timer.
SQF Jambo
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49.210 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Mar 05 1992 21:08 | 13 |
|
Sal,
How's the 12 hour shift going ?
Remember keep that bunny suit secure and watch your back.
You never know what kind of depraved creature might be lurking
in the shadows......that reminds me..
How you doin' Colin ? :-)
Del
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49.211 | do you ever do any work ??? | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Part Time Jambo! | Thu Mar 05 1992 21:24 | 6 |
| re-1
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
you crack me up Del......now watch you don't over tax that 1 brain
cell of yours :-)
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49.212 | ??????? | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | C'mon The Honest Men | Fri Mar 06 1992 00:06 | 20 |
| Del,
Its not so much tonights shift that bothers me,but on Saturday I"m
on nights as well, so I"ll miss the Hamilton game ...
Although I"ll probably get up an hour early and listen to it on the
radio..
Can"t wait to stuff that excuse for a team,stadium ,strip and all
the usual stuff,mob.
Its high time we done them,but I feel achange of tactics is needed
because they seem to cope with the Ally Graham "or lack of it " threat
very easily...
Any veiws on team selection , result , I'll stick my neck out
"again" and go for 2-1 to the Whites......
GMcD..
P.S when do we play Morton??????
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49.213 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Mar 06 1992 19:15 | 14 |
|
Sal,
The BIG question is...do we really want to beat Hamilton ???
Ok we owe them for 4 defeats already this season but if we win
on Saturday we'll be doing the maggots a favour. We are well out
the promotion race and well clear of relegation so I'll not be
too unhappy if we loose....anything to keep the maggots in the
1st Div where they belong. Just think...next season we can watch
Fleeting waste another million !!!
Del.
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49.214 | :-) | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | I am so dizzy | Fri Mar 06 1992 20:46 | 15 |
| Del,
Dont worry about the maggots ,because their capable of loosing
lots more games before the end of the season,including one at
Somerset in March , so us giving Hamilton the points is not really
on .Remember that cheat McCluskey and his grinning fat face every time
they beat us ,that should be insetive enough for us to give them
a gubbing to remember ."heres hoping anyway".....
GMcD....
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49.215 | point noted | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Mar 06 1992 20:58 | 2 |
|
VP Sal
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49.216 | ??????? | KURMA::GMCDONALD | Jam Tarts are Great | Sat Mar 07 1992 04:55 | 26 |
| Boys,
MY prediction for todays line up.......
Purdie
Burley Howard Traynor Agnew
Gardner Kennedy McLean Bryce
Graham McTurk
subs Shaw Smith
I'm sure Kev might correct me 'when I'm wrong...
cheers Graeme.....
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49.217 | Whites walk tall... | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | Jam Tarts are Great | Sat Mar 07 1992 21:54 | 19 |
| Hi Del,
AYR UNITED 2 HAMILTON 0
Graham (2)
Tell me Del ,it really must be about humble pie time for
you.Not only is the big man club top scorer with a impresive 15 strikes
he must be up in the top 5 scorers in the league.
Anyway sounds like a great performance, update please .
I'll probably be available for the Morton game so keep in
touch about that also the Killie game is looking very possible to,so
with abit of luck it will be beers and bigotry in the Horseshoe as
usuall,12am sound good to you?????
cheers GMcD...
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49.218 | At last, a win... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Mon Mar 09 1992 11:25 | 34 |
|
A good solid performance against our bogey team saw us defeating
Hamilton for the first time in 10 years at home and the first time home
or away for a couple of seasons. Hamilton were utter crap (but we knew
that anyway), only threatened once when scissorhands had a nightmare
with a cross ball which resulted in a header against the bar.
Super Ally's first was a bit strange. A cross from the left from Agnew
ended up being toe-poked into the net from about 5 yards by the big
man. Don't know what the defence were trying to do but the big chap
enjoyed his goal. His second was a bit of a belter. Corner from Agnew
turned back across the goal by Traynor for Ally to net with a powerful
diving header.
Good performances from Howard, Traynor, McLean and Graham.
team as follows
Purdie
Agnew Howard Traynor Kennedy
Bryce McLean Gardner McTurk
Graham Walker
subs Shaw (replaced McTurk) Hood.
Defence was pretty solid all game, Gardner and McTurk were empty
jersey's.
Danny...
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49.219 | the moral is don't leave yourself logged in | AYOV18::BMURRAY | Jam Tarts are Crap | Wed Mar 11 1992 13:51 | 7 |
| Sal,
Either you have cracked up due to the pressure of work at SQF or
the phantom personal name changer (probabley SQF Jambo) has attacked
you. Nice to see you're still following the boys
Regards,
Billy.
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49.220 | See you there ? | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 11 1992 14:07 | 15 |
| Sal,
The U-18 team will play the semi-final of the BP Cup at Somerset on
Sunday with a 2pm ko. Admission is FREE ! Monday nights reserve game
at Baghdad was postponed as the best playing surface in Scotland was
unplayable again. They play tomorrow at Love St and are at home to
Rangers on Monday. They are 5th in the league at the moment.
Duncan George will return for Saturday but Nigel Howard is suspended.
It will need a good display to beat a Raith team which scored 5 against
Montrose last week. I'll go for a 1-1 draw with Walker scoring.
Kev...
p.s. Any chance you might make the "long" journey from SQF ??
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49.221 | ?????? | MASALA::GMCDONALD | Jam Tarts are Great | Thu Mar 12 1992 10:27 | 17 |
| Hi Kev,
Sorry Kev the Raith game is a none starter due to me being on
dayshift that day ...Im more hopefull of getting a day of for the
Killie game though.. Do we play Morton next Wed. if so I think I could
make that match..
Tommmy Walker scoreing at Starks ,you must be jokeing ......
Big Al will have Dennis in his pocket again , but I think the defense
will be streched without big Howard ,and I think we will hang on for
a point ,Ill go for 1-1 or 2-2..
re 219..Yes I left my account switched on ,the result was the SQF
jambo strikes again...Kev tell me how to get it of!!!!!
Cheers Graeme...
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49.222 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Mar 12 1992 12:35 | 22 |
|
Furphy should return on Saturday and Traynor will remain in defence so
I don't think we'll miss Nige too much. I still say 1-1 and Walker to
score. I think we play Morton on Tuesday but I'm not sure. The game
will probably be off as it has rained continuously for 4 days down here
and usually that means Scapa-flow will be under 2 feet of water.
To get rid of that awful personal name , do the following;
Notes> MODIFY PROFILE/PERSONAL_NAME="C'mon The Honest Men"
or some other witty comment.
BTW Big Steep and the rest of us have noticed how bad your spelling has
become since you moved East. Is this due to not having Lawrence to
proof-read your replies or have you been reading the DMURRAY book of
"Spelling Howlers" ???
I think we should be told.
Kev...
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49.223 | Dunce... | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | Jam Tarts are Great | Thu Mar 12 1992 12:55 | 9 |
| Kev,
This terrible spelling comes from 7years at Forehill Primary,
then 4 more at Belmont Acad.Also yes I could do with LG checking
my spelling..Anyway you know what I mean!!!!!!
Graeme...
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49.224 | We're all going to HAMPDEN | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | SHOUT SHOUT LET IT ALL OUT | Thu Mar 12 1992 17:08 | 8 |
| RE-1
Graeme I told you I'll check your spelling for you if your having
difficulty's.....
Sal has told me that I'm getting popular in Ayr,so I propose to get
photo's taken and for a small fee I'll even autograph them and you can
sell them in the @SQF Jambo's fan club at Ayr......
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49.225 | aufc | MASALA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Thu Mar 12 1992 17:27 | 11 |
| Kev,
Here's a news flash for you Kev, you will probably know this allready
,but I'll spit it out anyway.Ihave it on good athority that Burley has
been watching a Cowdenbeath striker by the name of Buckley .This is not
the same one that used to play with Partick last year is it?????
Info please Kev,age previous clubs and goals.......
Graeme
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49.226 | Hello face-ache...:-) | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Fri Mar 13 1992 10:31 | 15 |
|
re .224
We've got news for you Mr. Patrick (very uncommon name).
There is already a photo of you in use in our S&S club. It appeared in
an old AYRLINES magazine and was immediately used for darts practice.
Such was the demand to knock more holes into your gub, the picture was
destroyed in a matter of days.
Danny...
ps Will you be another one of the big-game supporters at Hampden for
the cup semi??
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49.228 | There'll be no Gers in the Final | KURMA::CPATRICK | Does the name Quazimodo ring a bell | Fri Mar 13 1992 15:44 | 9 |
| Hey Danny I beleive the women at Ayr have enlarged the picture of me
from ayrlines and stuck them on there ceilings :-)
As for the trip to Hampden,yes I will be there,but as I have already
said before and hopfully this will be the last time,I do go when
possible and I'm not working.....
SQF Jambo
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49.229 | EASYYYYYYY | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Sun Mar 15 1992 08:36 | 30 |
| Hi Lads,
RAITH ROVS 2 AYR UNITED 4
Neison (2) Graham (3)
Walker
PURDIE *****
KENEDY ***
AGNEW ***
McVIE ****
TRAYNOR ***
McLEAN ***
GARDNER *
BRYCE **
GRAHAM *****
WALKER ****
SHAW **
Subs not used Hood McTURK.....
Graeme..
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49.230 | | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Mon Mar 16 1992 08:56 | 26 |
| Boys,
After Ayr's great performance in Kirkaldy Burley has a few problems
i.e who to play , does he bring in Howard or Furphy to the defence that
played so well at Raith or does he alter the some times shakey midfield
by bringing back George ..
Any ideas ???
My team would be.....Purdie....out standing at Raith..
Kenedy
Agnew
McVie....did very well at Raith..
Howard...MOM against Accies....
McLean...playing his best stuff for a while
George...hates Killie
Bryce....Ihate him but Burley doesny..
Super Al...DRees EAT YOUR WORDS AND HUMBLE PIE
Walker.. Okay I can be wrong to
Shaw....His luck is slowly changeing..
Subs McTurk....?????
Traynor...Its him or McVie to play/sub
GRAEME... COME ON YE AYR........:-)..
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49.231 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Mar 16 1992 10:04 | 32 |
| The Under-18 team have made it to the BP Youth Cup final after a 5-3
victory on penalties against Partick yesterday. It finished 0-0 after
90 minutes but Ayr took the lead with 7 minutes to go of extra time
when Billy Woods cracked in a 20 yard shot.
Partick equalised with 2 minutes left after slackness in defence.
Robertson saved Partick's 4th penalty and Woods again was the man to
send Ayr into the final when he slotted home Ayr's 5th.
This chap Buckley has had more clubs than Jack Nicklaus and is surely
near the end of his career. He's 32 now , a dwarf and only good for the
likes of Cowdenbeath's "Blue Brazil" He's scored a few goals mind you.
The Clydebank left-winger we were meant to sign was Pat Kelly , but he
will not now be coming. Burley watched him last week at Kilbowie
against Thistle and as he was subbed early in the second half, he
pulled off his jersey and flung it at Steedman in the dugout. Burley
does not want him now , and neither do the 'bankies.
Duncan George may not be fit for Saturday as he was injured on Thursday
might at Love St in the 3-1 defeat. Howard should return, but McVie and
Traynor played so well on Saturday, I'd find it hard to drop any of
them. BTW Derzo, had you been at Kirkcaldy on Saturday, you might even
have been impressed by Dobbin. 3 superb goals for his first hat-trick
in Ayr colours and he's now scored more this season than his previous
best season. Ayr looked dangerous whenever they moved upfield and the
only surprise was they only scored 4. Purdie had two magnificent saves
at very important points and generally looked good. The whole team
appear to be playing without any pressure and really look as if they
are enjoying their football.. Morton tomorrow and I think the Super U's
can continue their good form with 2-1 victory.
Kev...
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49.232 | for humble read hairy | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Mon Mar 16 1992 10:13 | 31 |
|
Hello Chaps,
I'm just back from Manchester and it's nice to see the boys
come back to a bit of form. 3 wins on the trot against tough opposition
is certainly a confidence booster.
While I was in Manchester I went to the Rumbelows Cup Semi against
Middlesboro'. Although the game had a capacity crowd, tremendous
atmosphere and great goals...it wasn't like the real thing !!! :-) :-)
After Saturday's great result against Raith it would be easy to get
carried away and start to predict victories against Morton and Killie.
I'm not going to do that as Ayr have let us down more times than I care
to remember. Until Purdie is replaced I'm never going to predict an Ayr
victory again.
Sal, for humble read hairy...I don't mind eating a piece of that !!
Re : Big Ally
If he stopped his continual moaning and realised he ain't Marco Van
Basten I'm sure his scoring rate would be far higher. It's his lack
of work rate that keeps him from being the player he could be....and
that's what pisses me off. For his size and weight he should be the
big Arnie of the 1st Division instead of the Julian Clary !!!!!
5 from 2 games is an impressive strike rate and long may it continue.
If he can bang in another 5 in the next 2 games I'll be forced to have
a bite at that hairy...sorry humble pie !!
Del
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49.233 | stripes in trouble.. | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Mon Mar 16 1992 11:30 | 22 |
| Kev,
When and where is the final to be played?? Sounds like a great
performance by the pups,maybe there is some real talent among them.
Two finals in one season ,I don't know if I can take much more!!!
Derek,
If you had seen big Ally's fist on Sat."the exact same as his
strike against Forfar except on the full volley and from about 30yds
outand on the shy line " you would have eaten hairy , humble and
Greggs.You might even have paid for the latter!!!!! :-)
Will you be in the Hosrse on Sat. at about 12am, same goes for Dan
???
Graeme.. SATURDAY WILL BE EASSSSSSSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY :-)
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49.234 | Tone it down Sal...:-) | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Mon Mar 16 1992 11:46 | 32 |
|
Sal,
Your really setting yourself up for a right slagging from the filth
if we don't do them on Saturday.
We've certainly improved over the last few weeks, hopefully it
continues for the next 2 games at least. It will be interesting to see
Burley's selection if Furphy and George are fit and Howard is free from
suspension. My choice to play Killie as follows :
Purdie
Traynor Furphy Howard Agnew
Bryce Kennedy George McLean
Superman Walker
subs from Shaw McTurk Hood and Gardner.
A win tomorrow at Crapillow will set up a real cracker against
Killie on Saturday. They'll bring a big support as usual. Let's hope
they go home unhappy.
Danny
ps According to one of the maggots here, the biggest cheer at Rugby
Park on saturday was on hearing the half-time from Kircaldy !!!
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49.235 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Mon Mar 16 1992 11:55 | 15 |
|
Sal,
the Horse at 12 is a definate.......
Somehow I don't think it will be as easy as you suggest.
If my memory serves me correctly you were supremely confident the
last time the maggots came to Somerset. Can't quite remember the
score but I don't think we won !!
It would certainly be nice to end their season. Nice being a bit of
an understatement !!!!
Del.
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49.236 | Graham Plays for new Contract | AYOU48::JHILL | | Mon Mar 16 1992 14:02 | 16 |
|
Well lads after saturdays tremendous result even I've been moved to
enter a wee note in praise of Super Ally :-). As was said in a previous
note if he got on with playing instead of moaning he'd be a far better
player. However, the big talking point from saturday must be Purdie
meriting 5 stars on Sals points for prizes board !
Just for the record we are now mathematical safe from relegation after
Saturdays two points. The question is is there any of us old enough to
remember the last time we could enjoy the last 5 home games ? :-)
Steep
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49.237 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Mar 16 1992 14:16 | 20 |
| Good grief !
Steep comes out of semi-retirement ! What next ?
Sal, I don't know where or when the Final will be played, I'll let you
know when I find out, but it will be against Hibs or Dundee United.
One of the best things about Saturday was the support from the fans.
Although there was not very many of us there, they gave the team lots
of encouragement and were almost invading the pitch behind the goal
when Ally blasted the 4th in off the underside of the bar. I'm hoping
the fans will come out in force for the last 5 home games and really
get behind the team. For the first time in about 4 months , Burley has
problems about selection because he has too many players, it's usually
the other way round. That means competition for places and the players
are trying harder. We can still have a big say in who goes up, it won't
be us obviously, but we can spoil a few parties between now and May.
Let's start with Killie on Saturday....
Kev...
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49.238 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Mar 17 1992 09:46 | 12 |
| Ayr reserves lost 3-0 at home last night to Rangers. The teams were as
follows.
AYR: Robertson,Burley,Vincent,Furphy,Hood,Kennedy,Martin,Brown,Trialist
Smith,McTurk
GERS:McKellar,Murray,Vinnicombe,?,Presley,Kuznetsov,Lee Robertson,Sandy
Robertson,Rideout,Durrant,Spencer.
Furphy came off early in the second half , and might play tonight. Zico
and McTurk played the full match so may not be in the squad. I hear
there is a hosepipe ban in Greenock, so the game might be on tonight.
Kev...
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49.239 | SCUMS SEASON FINISHED | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | | Wed Mar 18 1992 05:30 | 17 |
| The Mighty United Fall At CRAPPIELOW
Well Kev Can We have the usual match report as i was
unable to go as im nightshift .... worst luck.
my team to play the ayrshire minnows
PURDIE
TRAYNOR FURPHY HOWARD GAZ AGNEW
GARDENER MCLEAN BRYCE
WALKER GRAHAM SHAW
SUBS MCTURK KENNEDY OR GEORGE IF FIT
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49.240 | Just a load of CRAP... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Wed Mar 18 1992 09:02 | 22 |
|
A crap game on a crap park on a crap night with a crap ref.
That just about sums up last nights game at Crappielow. Conditions
were very poor with a very heavy pitch, strong wind and rain. Morton
created the better chances so probably deserved the win. Ayr were
reasonably good in defence except late on when they were chasing the
game and Morton's quick forwards always looked dangerous on the break.
Our midfield last night was non-existant. Mclean tried hard to get
things going but Bryce was poor and Lee Gardner just doesn't merit a
mention. He was caught in possession so many times it was unreal. His
passing was utter crap (nice word) and his tackling was useless. George
has to be fit for Saturday or Killie will dominate the midfield.
Pass marks to Scissorhands, Howard, McVie, McLean and MOM Ally Graham.
He put in more work and tackles last night than he's done all season.
Hopefully the team will be fired up for Saturday's game knowing that a
win will finish Killie's promotion chances, but a big improvement will
be needed on last night's performance.
Danny...
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49.241 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 18 1992 09:55 | 25 |
| Yes Dan, Morton deserved to win last night. Ayr's midfield was shocking
and I still can't understand why McLean was subbed. He was the only
player in midfield who was tackling anyone with any effect. Gardner was
beyond words. He was so out of his depth, slow , caught in possession
time after time, he was driving me nuts. Purdie was not at fault with
the first goal but must shoulder part of the blame for No 2 when Hopkin
rose at the near post to score with a header. The first goal was an
admitted, miss-kick by Tolmie. He swung at it with his left and kicked
fresh air and the ball struck his right foot and trickled in at the far
post. Walker should have scored after about 10 mins when he scooped the
ball over the bar from 4 yards with his right foot when a left foot
shot would have scored. Howard was booked for a rash challenge on
Mathie. I would drop Gardner,McVie and Shaw and play Kennedy, Furphy
and George from the start. We have to have a bit more dig in midfield
and no silly we nancy boys like Gardner poncing about and losing the
ball every time he gets it. His one and only good game at Somerset was
against Dundee and he's done nothing since. If we had another striker I
would also drop Walker, purely for missing that chance early on last
night. All in all I am not confident about Saturday anymore. Sob Sob
BTW, there must have been more rain fell last night during the match
than fell in the 3 days preceeding the original date for the game, yet
the game went ahead and was not abandoned. Funny that, isn't it ? :-)
Kev...
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49.242 | ?????? | KURMA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Wed Mar 18 1992 10:42 | 29 |
| Kev ,
Sorry Kev McVie must stay.....
last nights merits....
PURDIE..........****
TRAYNOR.........**
AGNEW...........**
McVIE...........****
HOWARD..........****
McLEAN..........***
GARDNER.........-100
BRYCE...........**
GRAHAM..........*****
WALKER..........***
SHAW............**
subs KENEDEY....**
McTURK.....**
AS it looks like George and McLean wont make it for Sat. Ithink we
should use McVie or Furphy in that area to put some bite in the team..
Graeme
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49.243 | In the ****house... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Wed Mar 18 1992 11:17 | 13 |
|
What's the problem with McLean? He didn't look injured last night,
that's why I could not understand the substitution. If neither McLean
or George make it for Saturday, we're in serious s**t!! If Furphy
doesn't make it, we're in very deep. McVie will certainly start as he's
not afraid to put himself about, that will be needed on Saturday.
Danny...
ps How about the hard-running, hard-tackling Ally Graham as out
midfield maestro....:-)
|
49.244 | Hot off the press!!! | SCOAYR::AARNOTT | | Thu Mar 19 1992 12:25 | 16 |
|
Hello there chaps, It's not like me to come in here without good cause
but I thought you might be interested in a wee rumour from a reliable
source that I heard last night.
Apparently Ayr Utd. are in hush-hush talks with a prosperous American
businessman with a view to a possible takeover in the very near future.
comments ???
Andy (looking forward to an entertaining game on Saturday with
hopefully the right result for the "sleeping giant" of Scottish
football :-) )
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49.245 | Hook, line and sinker | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Thu Mar 19 1992 13:01 | 12 |
|
re last
Is this a wind-up or not?
Remember, the esteemed gentlemen on the board at Somerset Park had the
wisdom and sense to turn down a certain David Murray's offer of several
million quid only a few years ago. Why should they accept any cash from
someone else this time round?
Danny...
|
49.246 | | SCOAYR::AARNOTT | | Thu Mar 19 1992 13:32 | 3 |
|
NO WIND-UP...
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49.247 | Tell us more!! | AYOU48::JHILL | | Thu Mar 19 1992 13:51 | 16 |
|
Now this sounds interesting !!
How about naming your source ,Andy , or even how he/she would know
about it if you don't want to name names ?
Danny, I don't think that even the buffoons that are on the board at
Somerset would be stupid enough to refuse another reasonable offer.
Steep.
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49.248 | MONEY, MONEY,MONEY | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | | Fri Mar 20 1992 01:50 | 21 |
| RE.245
DANNY
Seemingly all the director's who didnt want murray's money
have all resigned or quit
APART FROM SHIT FOR BRAINS KILTY LOUDON
So Here's hoping this time
AT LEAST IF WE HAD THE KIND OF MONEY THAT THE MINNOWS HAVE
I DONT THINK WE WOULD NEED TO TREAT EVERY GAME FROM NOW
TILL THE END OF THE SEASON AS A CUP GAME TO GET PROMOTION
NEED I SAY MORE
CHEERS FIN
|
49.249 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Mar 20 1992 11:23 | 45 |
|
So far this season we haven't managed to beat Killie. The last time
they came to Somerset proved to be a rather humiliating experience
which I'd rather forget. IMO along with Raith, Killie have been the
most impressive side to visit Somerset this season. They were streaks
ahead of us that day.
Although we haven't beaten them this season we have only lost once.
Tomorrow gives us the chance to even things up with the added incentive
of knowing that if we win we end their promotion chances.
Although we are out the promotion race I expect nothing less than 100%
from the boys tomorrow. The defence has a more solid look about it and
the forwards have started scoring again so that only leaves the problem
of the midfield, which on Tuesday night against Morton, was completely
missing. We badly miss Duncan George.
I'm not going to predict a victory tomorrow but if we can compete in
the middle and closedown Ally Mitchell I'm sure we won't lose. With
Hugh Burns suspended, Killie will miss his bite and hopefully we can
take advantage of this.
My team for tomorrow would be :
Purdie
Traynor Howard Furphy Agnew
Kennedy McVie George McLean
Graham Walker
subs : Shaw, Bryce
Hopefully Furphy and George will be fit for tomorrow and although
it won't be a game for the youngsters McVie deserves to keep his place.
I'd like to see Kennedy back to man mark Mitchell and I'd move McVie up
into midfield were he won't be afraid to put himself about. If we are
under pressure he can always move back to form a 3 man central defence.
We can't afford carry passengers so I'd relegate Bryce to the bench
and drop Gardner completely.
If Furphy and George don't make tomorrow I can't see us winning.
Del.
|
49.250 | no Duncan George | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Mar 20 1992 12:48 | 7 |
|
So much for my team in the last note....it seems Duncan George
will be out for the rest of the season. This is very disappointing as we
could really do with his dig tomorrow. I guess that means Tommy Bryce
will start with Gardner or McTurk taking his place on the bench.
Del.
|
49.251 | Not a good day... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Sun Mar 22 1992 15:42 | 27 |
|
Well, what can one say.
Ayr were well beaten by a very average looking Kilmarnock side. Neither
team played particularly well in the windy conditions. Chances were few
and far between, Purdie and Geddes both having a couple of good saves.
Killie's first was a disaster for the Ayr defence. No tackle made in
the midfield and Tait in yards of space to pick up the through ball.
I don't know what Purdie thought was happening, he made no attempt to
stop Tait's shot. The 2nd from Tommy Burns was very unlucky. He duffed
his shot which was going straight to Purdie before it struck Kennedy
and ended up in the net.
Ayr's midfield was garbage. An unfit Duncan George tried to get things
going but with 2 haddies in Bryce and Gardner alongside him, he was
struggling throughout.
It's time Bryce and Gardner were replaced in midfield by players with
a bit of class and speed to set up chances for the strikers. Kennedy
also has to be replaced, possibly McVie will be given a run in the team
now.
All in all, a pretty glum afternoon at Somerset.
Danny...
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49.252 | Give us a break...Please!!! | EAYV01::LGRACE | Walking down the Somerset Road.... | Tue Mar 24 1992 11:38 | 9 |
| Sal,
You must have some size of gut by now,considering all the humble
pie you have had to eat this season (not to mention the few pints
and the odd curry here and there!!).Anyway it seems that every time
you begin to gloat the roof falls in on us immediately,please do
us a favour next season and start following the squirrels!!!
Only Joking Sal!!
Cheers
Lawrence
|
49.253 | | DOCU2::JHILL | | Tue Mar 24 1992 14:26 | 21 |
|
Well all in all Saturdays game was pretty lousy. The performance
merited the result with one two players showing how bad they really can
be.
Gary Agnew was sorely missed. This was particularly noticeable in the
second half when half decent moves were breaking down on the left as
Kennedy either passed backwards, sideways or just simply lost
possession.
I think Burley must now think of playing some of the fringe players
in the remainig games McVie, Hood, McTurk even some of the boys
currently playing in the reserves.
Steep
|
49.254 | give youth a chance | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Fri Mar 27 1992 10:27 | 5 |
| The younger players in the squad will now get first team prcatise. Shaw
has been told that he will play until the end of the season. Hopefully
this will mature him for next season.
regards ... Stevie
|
49.255 | Let's look ahead... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Fri Mar 27 1992 11:13 | 27 |
|
Hopefully Burley will drop Gardner, Bryce and Kennedy tomorrow against
Forfar and bring in 1 or 2 more of the youngsters, McTurk and Hood
spring to mind. The boss should now start building for next season when
hopefully Ayr will be able to sustain a challenge at the top.
On the subject of next season, who do you not expect (or would not
want) to see at Somerset? I reckon we can do without Gardner, Bryce,
Kennedy, Purdie and possibly McLean from the first team squad. There
are quite a few others in the background who will be on their way.
Brown, Vincent, Auld and Smith will certainly be leaving. Burley will
have to rely on some of the good youngsters and hope to pick up a few
bargain's during the close season to build his first team squad. A lack
of cash won't help in trying to bring players to Somerset. Most will be
signing on a part-time basis.
I honestly think we have the nucleus of a good team, but as Burley has
said, we're a couple of player's short at the moment. Hopefully he can
find some midfield players with a bit of skill and pace to partner
Duncan George who, in my view, is the only good player we have in the
middle.
Danny...
ps I think we'll see the smallest crowd of the season at Somerset
tomorrow.
|
49.256 | ???/ | KURMA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Sun Mar 29 1992 12:47 | 9 |
| HI LADS,
MATCH REPORT FOR THE FORFAR GAME PLEASE.....
GRAEME...
|
49.257 | is that no enough | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Does the name Quazi ring a bell ?? | Sun Mar 29 1992 14:17 | 3 |
| RE-1
You's won !!!
|
49.258 | Not a lot to report.... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Mon Apr 06 1992 12:00 | 23 |
|
re - 2
Only word to describe the Forfar game is YAWN!!
Typical end of season game in front of a very small crowd of @1300.
Ayr had a couple of chances early on before they took the lead with a
good goal, well made by Bryce and a good header from McLean to finish
it off. After that the game went from bad to very bad, only points
worth mentioning were how Kennedy managed to miss twice in the space of
minutes when through on the keeper.
By all accounts, Saturday's game at Clydebank was as bad. As our
roving reporter is absent with a broken wrist, we may have to wait a
week or two before we get the details.
Dundee at home on Saturday. Hopefully we'll see a better game with
Dundee still needing the points to ensure promotion. I dare say we'll
get the chance to verbally abuse the fat man who is currently
player-coach with them, should be fun!!!
Danny...
|
49.259 | Sal Is Still Going To Hampden | PAKORA::CPATRICK | Welcum to the house of FUN | Mon Apr 06 1992 21:48 | 20 |
|
Howz it gaun boys...
I've just sobered up from the hampden game (what a load of sh*t)
Now down to buisness.I beleive we have allowed our close neighbours,
Meadowbank,the use of our magnifficent stadium to play you's a week
on Saturday !!! I thought I would just write you's a small note to
remind you's to take your camera's as it will probably be a very long
time before you's ever get to see another Premier league Stadium.
Also if you's have any spare cash and it is raining,It would be a
wise investment to buy umbrellas,seeing as how the crap teams supporters
get the uncovered end :-)
Hearts are also about to unload some huddy's,(Gary lugs mckay aswell I
hope)so if you's behave yourself and be nice to WallARSE Mercer,He might
allow them to travel home with you's in the minibus as I beleive
there are always spare seats. :-)
SQF Jambo
|
49.260 | next season | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Mon Apr 06 1992 22:02 | 20 |
| HI BOYS,
A wee bit of info for you all ,I heard this week, from a not
very good sourse mind you, that GB was in the middle of a swap deal
with Ally at QOS , the deal I am told is Bryce and Purdie for Thopmson.
Sounds like a tall one ,but it might well have been the swap deal
that fell through last week, time will tell...
Anyone got any other facts or romours to speak of,the press seem
to be hinting that a pair of wide players are to be signed with the
sale of one of our players to finance the deals.With only 3 players
worth selling and 2 of them ,namely Graham and Agnew just signing
new contracts it looks like Furphy will be the one to go.
Time will tell...
Graeme......
|
49.261 | RUMOURMONGER | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | | Tue Apr 07 1992 09:58 | 12 |
| SAL
WHEN I WAS AT CLYDEBANK ON SATURDAY THE RUMOUR I HEARD WAS JOHN
WATSON OF AIRDRIE BUT I DONT WHICH AYR PLAYER WAS INVOLVED .
AS FOR THE GAME ON SATURDAY WELL IT'S NOT WORTH MENTIONING, TYPICAL
END OF THE SEASON,BOTH TEAMS WERE RUBBISH, MIND YOU AYR HAD THERE
CHANCES.
PS BAD NEWS THOUGH, killie MIGHT GET AGOOD MANAGER NOW
|
49.262 | | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Tue Apr 07 1992 19:44 | 16 |
|
re .259
Welcome back Mr. Patrick. How much did your street map of Glasgow
cost you? You being a part-time supporter you'd need it to find
Hampden. :-) :-)
Re possible transfers.
Obviously Burley will be doing some wheeling and dealing during the
close season to try and pick up some decent players on the cheap.
However, John Watson I feel, would be a step in the wrong direction.
He's past it. Look what's happened at Bugme Park. They bought several
"old pro's" and got nowhere. Young blood required!!!
Danny...
|
49.263 | .... | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Wed Apr 08 1992 06:49 | 19 |
| Dan,
I don't know so much about signing young players, the side at the
moment is slightly over crowded with youth i,e Howard,McVie,Agnew and
Shaw all under 22and the likes of Graham,McLean,George and Traynor not
much older .While I think you are wairy of signings who might fall into
the Weir/Bryce age group,and I must agree Watson is one of them,and
would be a bad signing,Ifeel we should be trying to sign experianced
players who are not yet over the hill and who are perhaps 27/28 and
with a bit of luch have some premier experiance. Names that spring to
mind are McDowell of St Mirren or Graham Harvey of StMirren but I feel
these guys could be 29/30 which is getting to over the hill stage..
The terrible truth is teams aren't going to "give us" premier
class players who are at their peeks.So I suppose its back to beggars
can't be choosers...
Hope GB can come up with something!!!!!
Graeme..
|
49.264 | CLEAROUT OR NOT | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Thu Apr 09 1992 13:59 | 29 |
| RE.263
SAL, doesent Graham Harvey Play With Airdre ?
Well lads,which players would you keep and who would you sell or
let go
players i would keep:-
super cammy
john traynor
gaz agnew
furpherino
Big nige
paul mclean
duncan george
ally graham
alan mcturk
lee gardener
greg shaw
DONT KNOW'S
Tommy walker
tommy bryce
i WOULD get rid of kennedy,oops iforget iwould keep mcvie
so lets hear from you
cheers fin
|
49.265 | ******* | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Thu Apr 09 1992 23:46 | 14 |
| Hi Lads,
Fin, Graeme Harvey does play with Airdrie , he cost around 60K from
Dundee and has scored around 30 premier reserve gaols..
Players to go....I think in order to progress into the hunt 6/7 players
need to be replaced by better ones , this applies to the whole team.
But in my opinion the one's to go would be Vincent,Auld,Bryce, Brown,
Walker,Weir,Kenedy and Smith...
Graeme....
|
49.266 | Gardner MUST GO!!!! | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Fri Apr 10 1992 16:36 | 10 |
| re last few
Come on lads, surely Gardner must be included in a clearout. The guy
has done nothing since arriving at Somerset and hasn't shown anything
that would make me want him to stay.
Dundee tomorrow, we'll need a big improvement on the last couple of
games if we're to blunt their title hopes.
Dannny...
|
49.267 | lll | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Sun Apr 12 1992 08:54 | 25 |
| Hi Lads,
Was at the Dundee game yesteday and the lads played really
well.The defence was very solid with Furphy out standing in his
handling of thet wee toad Doads.The mid feild also played quite well
with George on top form and tackling very well, Paul McLean also was
unlucky on a couple of occations .Up front we were a wee bit soft with
big Ai and wee Tam doing the usual.
If Dundee is the best team in the league well we are not that
far away , if only we could beat the wee teams like Stirling and
Kilmarnock then things could have been a lot differant..
Dan... While I agree with you that Gardner is a complete pudin I
think he deserves the chance of pre season training and proper
preperation for next season , if after this he fails then off he must
go.
I have come across a wee bit of gossip for you all,and this
time it comes from a good source ,I have heard that David Kenedey
is on his way to Meadowbank in a swap deal for who I dont know.
Remembering that GB is after a winger could it be Little?
Or could it be 6ft 2in forward Grant...
Graeme
|
49.268 | more | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Sun Apr 12 1992 11:08 | 19 |
| Boys.
Sorry I had to log of in a hurry, the reason I think that GB might
be interested in Derek Grant (Meadowbank and Dec) is that romour has it
that a deal with Airdrie for John Watson fell through last week, if
that was the case it seems GB is on the lookout for a big forward in
the Graham mould either to replace him or to play alongside him,I hope
its the latter.Two big direct forwards would take some marking and with
the right service could cause havoc next season.Does anyone remember
the last time we played with such a combination ?? It was in the
premier league ,with Walker McColl and Danny Masterton,who could forget
that pair!!!! but seriously it could be an option ,when youve no cash
for class midfeilders the only way to goal is down the wings and over
the top i.e Millwal ,Shefeild Utd,Wimbldon and Cambridge.
not great to watch,but beggars cant be chosers......
Graeme ...
|
49.269 | Better performance... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Mon Apr 13 1992 12:28 | 25 |
|
A better performance on Saturday against the league leaders who, it
must be said, had the better chances in the first half but some great
goalkeeping from Purdie kept them out. He had 3 or 4 great saves, pity
he's so inconsistent with high balls into the box. Second half saw Ayr
come right back into the game and Jim Leighton in the Dundee goal had a
couple of cracking saves to keep the scoreline blank. A draw in the end
was a fair result.
As Sal says, Dundee didn't look that good at times and will need to
invest heavily if they want to stay in the premier.
Impressed with Purdie on Saturday. Furphy and Howard were very solid
in the centre of defence, Paul McLean had a very good game and was
unlucky not too score. George and McTurk also impressed, Graham and
Walker didn't do too much. Only players who weren't too good were
Kennedy (as usual), Burley and Traynor although he was in midfield
which I don't think is his best position.
Danny...
ps Nice to see wee Duncan George getting wired into that big cheat
Stainrod and giving him a couple of hefty tackles.
|
49.270 | WING WIZARD | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Tue Apr 14 1992 01:49 | 10 |
| SAL
If your right about Derek Grant,who are we going to use as winger's
Ally Frazer, or Pedro Weir? I think GB should get rid of old
peter and maybe keep Ally,and try and get agood Johnny Doyle like
player .
BIG NIGE is fairly comin on a ton
cheers fin
|
49.271 | Have you's any spare maps lads ??? | PAKORA::CPATRICK | Welcum to the house of FUN | Tue Apr 14 1992 13:55 | 5 |
| I have just heard a rumour ????
Sal is going to Hampden tonight !!!
SQF Jambo
|
49.272 | Take your boxing gloves. | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Tue Apr 14 1992 14:04 | 14 |
|
re last
Aye, just to make sure you don't get lost in the big city.
Sal, you may not see a decent game of football but you're almost
certainly guaranteed a good boxing match between the 2 dirtiest teams
in Scottish football.
Danny...
|
49.273 | Bye Bye Brycie | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Tue Apr 14 1992 14:33 | 45 |
|
Sal,
I hope the rumour of you going to Hampden is untrue.....
The football on show will be appauling if the first game is anything
to go by. Why waste your cash ?
It shows you the crap standard of Scottish football went two poor
sides like Hearts and Airdrie can contest a Scottish Cup semi-final.
I rather watch a rerun of the election :-)
Anyway back to more important matters. Players I think should
depart from Somerset are as follows :
Tommy Bryce (past it)
Stuart Auld (past it)
David Purdie (too inconsistent and unreliable)
Tommy Walker (works hard but is basically crap)
Peter Weir (past it)
Others to go include Vincent,Smith and Brown.
Players I would keep but others might not necessarily agree:
David Kennedy:
Always gives 100% and would be a valuable pool player. He is not the
most skilful player but could do a turn when better players are
injured.
Lee Gardner:
He must be a better player than he has showed so far. He certainly has
the ability. I think he lacks the desire to play at Somerset but
hopefully that will change. He will also benefit from pre season
training.
Paul McLean:
I'm not being biased here because I know Paul well. He has been
unfortunate this season with injury and has therefore not been as
consistent as he should be. He has the dig and determination we need
in our midfield and along with Duncan George will form part of a very
tough midfield.
Heres to more improvement next season.
Del
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49.274 | We'll be back to Hampden in MAY..bring on enGERland | MASALA::CPATRICK | Welcum to the house of FUN | Tue Apr 14 1992 14:49 | 9 |
| re-1
Del,
Sal may as well go along and see the 2 dirtiest teams in the league
as you put it at hampden,coz He'll never be able to go there and see
Ayr UTD....The only chance you's will ever get of seeing Hampden is if
you go on a day trip......
SQF Jambo
|
49.275 | Del is back!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Tue Apr 14 1992 14:53 | 16 |
| Del,
I agree with most of what you say but Zico falls into the same
catagory as Walker"crap".The fact that he gives 100% is not really an
issue ,I mean you would give the same if you pulled on the white.What
we must do in the summer is improve in as many positions as possible
,starting with the weakest ones , namely the wings , a partner for big
Ally , a goalkeeper and all our mince, and that quite a lot ,you named
most of them..It would be easier to name the ones you wouldnt give away
or swap.......Duncan,Furphy,Howard,McLean,George and Graham...the rest
all can be improved on...
Graeme..
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49.276 | No Jambos in Europe | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Wed Apr 15 1992 09:23 | 17 |
|
re .274
Oh dear Mr. Patrick
You've opened your big gub a little early again. I don't think we'll be
seeing you at Hampden in May, after all you follow a team who
consistently prove that they don't have the bottle on the big occasion.
As was said many notes ago, you've won exactly the same as us this
season, BUGGER ALL!!!!!!!!
Danny.
ps. Have a nice day now.
pps. :-) :-) Always look on the bright side of life!!!
|
49.277 | FINALISTS | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Wed Apr 15 1992 10:56 | 10 |
|
Is there anyone going to Easter Road tonight for the BP youth
cup final???
Graeme
|
49.278 | there is 2nd place for EUROPE | PAKORA::CPATRICK | Welcum to the house of FUN | Wed Apr 15 1992 11:22 | 13 |
| re-1
Graeme,you don't get into Europe by winning the BP youth cup !!! :-)
re-2
Danny,I got it wrong,
We were beaten by those cheating scum B******s,who were as much fun to
watch as paint drying.... Not to worry though our B team will stuff
them in the final......
SQF Jambo
|
49.279 | Runners up again!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Thu Apr 16 1992 09:34 | 14 |
|
BP YOUTH CUP FINAL....HIBS 2 AYR UTD 0
According to clubcall the pups had their backs to the wall for
most of this game and Hibs deserved their win and more.Nobody could
have expected much more against a team who has been in the final for
the laat 3 years and can boast premier league players in their team.
The important thing is the lads battled to the end and never quit,
a point their older clubmates could do well to note....
Graeme..
|
49.280 | C'on Fin!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Sun Apr 19 1992 11:06 | 11 |
|
MEADOWBANK TH 0 AYR UNITED 1
Graham Crowd 310
Awaiting match report from Fin......
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49.281 | GHOSTLIKE TYNECASTLE | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Tue Apr 21 1992 13:06 | 16 |
| WELL LADS
what an exiting game
i woke up just in time to see ally scoring then wnet back
to sleep .
According to a certain MR Grace rumours of transfers are
Greg Shaw going to ST JOHNSTONE in exchange for Steve Maskrey
HOW ABOUT THAT THEN?
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49.282 | He'll no go!!! | PAKORA::PMOON | I most certainly am not. | Tue Apr 21 1992 15:04 | 8 |
|
I hope not, Stevie's a great wee player......and always likely to score
goals.........What like is the Shaw character anyway.
Peter.
|
49.283 | we got gubbed again... :-( | MASALA::CPATRICK | Hampden Blues in 92 | Tue Apr 21 1992 20:57 | 7 |
| Attendance at Tynecastle !!!!!
300....
what a support :-)
SQF Jambo
|
49.284 | NIGHTMARE!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Wed Apr 22 1992 23:33 | 20 |
| Hello Lads,
The bad news is Kilmarnock 4 Ayr United 0
This is a real blow to the whites,god knows what happend over
there,but something went very wrong,I wasnt at the game so I shouldnt
really coment,but I will.
This is the kind of result that a team costing close on 1million
pounds should be having against a side that cost around 40 bob.I think
now that TB has now made the Killie job his own,and unless real money
is made available to GB,so that he can take on the likes of Killie
without his hand tied round a lamppost then more results like these
will follow..
one browned off United fan ....over and out...
P.s I can hear big Doc laughing from here!!!!!!
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49.285 | Should have been more | SCOAYR::BLIVINGSTONE | | Thu Apr 23 1992 09:39 | 7 |
| .284
The scoreline should have been about 7 or 8 nil last night to the
team that cost 1 million pounds if our team should be beating teams
like Ayr by this scoreline all the time then how many should Rangers be
beating all the Premier league by every week ?
|
49.286 | LIGHT | AYOV27::BDOCHERTY | | Thu Apr 23 1992 14:33 | 10 |
| REPLY 284
Sal you never seen a man so gutted on Wedensday night than George
Burley he looked so disappointed to be honest the players let him down badly
and according to West Sound this morning a lot of them who were on
display last night will only be part timers next year.
I think a man of Burley"s stature and professionalism deserves a lot
better commitment than his troops gave him on Wednesday.
|
49.287 | Time to sum up..... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Thu Apr 23 1992 15:01 | 34 |
|
Well lads, as the season draws to a close, what are your highs and
lows of the past 9 months?
I'll start the ball rolling.
High points (not many I know!)
Beating Dundee and St. Johnstone in the Skol cup before loosing to the
eventual winners in the quarter-finals.
Being at Greenock as the machine came back from a 3-1 deficit with 3
goals in the last 12 minutes.
Returning from a 4-1 drubbing at Fir Park in the Scottish Cup, driving
past Bugme Park and hearing live on the radio a certain Tommy Burns
missing from the penalty spot as Killie crashed out to the mighty
Meadowbank. :-) :-) :-)
Lows - too many to mention.
B@Q Cup Final.
Loosing both home games to Kilmarnock and Partick Thistle.
Not being able to sustain our early season form.
Every time that Davie Kennedy and Lee Gardner started a game.
and many many more!!!
Danny.
|
49.288 | Down and nearly out! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Thu Apr 23 1992 21:49 | 50 |
| This season...
All that realy should be said is Ayr are a very average
side ,who can play a wee bit when there is no pressure on them.The real
test of a good side is when they can perform every week to a high level
wither its a sunny Aug. day or a cold Nov night,Ayr I'm affraid dont
measure up.
I think GB is the man for the job, but with no backing at all
from the board I think the 1st offer he gets he'll be off..then its
back to the 2nd div Im affraid.
HIGHS.....
1st Dundee in Aug 4-2....Who can forget big All droping his
kegs.
2nd Hibs in Aug 0-2....I thought we played brilliant that
night and so did Burrige..
3rd StJ in Aug 2-0 Gregg Shaws 30 yarder
4rth Greenock 4-3 outstanding
5th Coventry 3-1 Shaw's header
WORST 1st the 3 games against the vermin of gods earth!!!
2nd the 2 home games against thistle
3rd the cup final
4rth all the silly wee teams that beat us......
The future .....I think unless there is some form of take over Ayr will
be 100% patime within 3years and will remain in the 1st forever with
the occational apperance in the 2nd..
Unlike the 3000 partimers up the A77 I'll be there when ever I can,this
may sound like sour grapes .....thats because it is !!!!!
one let down(badly)united fan......over and out and back to the dark
room Ive been in for the last 24hrs..
Graeme.....
|
49.289 | Put a sock in it... | MASALA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Thu Apr 23 1992 22:06 | 14 |
| re 285.
Maybe the Scottish League should create a special catogary in the
league tables just for Killie ,they could sandwich it between goals for
and goals against and call it the goals Killie should have scored,
I think this seasons tally would have been about 200.
Okay Brian Killie won back the silver,fair enough,but wise up please.
Anyway I thought you watched Hurlford Utd 8-).
Graeme....
|
49.290 | FULLTIME OR PARTTIME | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Fri Apr 24 1992 10:00 | 41 |
| RE.287
lads,
High's And low's for me
I've only missed five games this season and i've seen most of the
up's and down's, mostly down's so here they are
HIGH'S
the month of August when were top of the league [not for long
though],the skol cup victories over St Johnstone and Dundee.
Beating Dundee 4-1 in october
3 goals in twelve minutes at cappielow
Partick thistle beating killie with a controversial goal to
end their promotion hopes.
Ally graham's hat trick at kirkcaldy
LOW'S
Taking no points off partick.
losing silly goals to stirling.
not beating the scumbag's
Cammy duncan getting injured
I think that sum's it up
According to todays newspapers some of the players that played
on wednesday will be told to take a parttime contract or move on.
what's the verdict on that?
FIN.....
|
49.291 | | MASALA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Fri Apr 24 1992 21:37 | 21 |
| Fin,
I have some info for you...
1st...Norman Montgomery the Glens 40 goal hero will sign a two
year deal with United.
2nd....there is going to be a massive clearout at the end of the
season....6 of the clowns that lost the silver at Killie will turn part
time or go...Ive heard that GB wants them to go..and the names Ive
heard are Kenedey,Bryce,Smith,Walker,Gardnerand Purdie.
3rd...The u18 goalie will make his debut tomorrow.
4rth...The board are having a meeting to see if GB will get the 50K
he wants for players next season...
Graeme..
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49.292 | what a load of rubbish! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Sat Apr 25 1992 21:31 | 7 |
| Giants 0 Montrose 0 Crowd....1300
Rumours...The latest is John (is it)Balverage StJohnstone is to sign.
Graeme....
|
49.293 | 1st or 2nd goalie | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Mon Apr 27 1992 13:14 | 6 |
| sal,
IT'S john Balavage, he's not a bad keeper, helped St Johnstone
get promotion.
fin.....
|
49.294 | rumour utd | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Tue Apr 28 1992 13:29 | 18 |
| LADS
If the rumours are right we will be signing FIVE new players,
could this be the team next season
Balavage or Duncan
Traynor Furphy Howard Agnew
Watson
George Mclean Elliot
Graham Maskrey
subs Montgomery Mcturk
cheers FIN ......
|
49.295 | Money, Money, Money | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Tue Apr 28 1992 20:07 | 26 |
|
Fin,
I take it that Watson is the guy from Airdrie, ex Dunfermline.
Personally, I hope he doesn't sign as he's past his best and would only
be coming to Somerset to see out his career. Bad move I think. Elliot I
presume is the guy from Killie. He could be a good signing for us, he's
got a fair bit of ability and could be the wide player that Burley is
looking for. Maskery would be a good signing, he's proved in the past
that he'll score goals.
However, once again the big stumbling block is cash or lack of it. The
3 players mentioned are presumably all full-time with their current
club and would, even if signed on full-time contracts, be taking a drop
in wages if they come to Somerset. We have to get loads a money from
somewhere to hopefully get the players that we need to sustain a
promotion challenge next season.
Danny.
ps With Tommy Burns being appointed manager of the wee scabby club in
the north of ayrshire, I confidently tip them to win the league next
season. He'll get some cash to buy 3 or 4 good quality players that
they are currently short of. I hope I'm proved wrong but if it,
remember where you heard it first.
|
49.296 | 2 points needed | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Tue Apr 28 1992 22:45 | 13 |
|
After Saturday's utterly boring goaless draw against relegated
Montrose (who deserved the 2 points), Ayr go into the final game of the
season on Saturday at home to Morton needing a victory to hoist them
above Morton into 6th spot. If successful, this will be Ayr's highest
league position in 10 years so I suppose we should be slightly pleased.
Hopefully Burley will have them wound up and they manage to win the
game. After Saturday I pray that the mass clear-out will begin!
Danny.
|
49.297 | Agnew for Dundee???? | EAYV01::LGRACE | Walking down the Somerset Road.... | Wed Apr 29 1992 13:11 | 6 |
| I see that today's Daily Record states that Garry Agnew is wanted
by Dundee.Personally,I would hate to see him go but if it's only
way to recoup some cash then let's hope Ayr sell him for a decent
sum.I think that you can always get by with an average full back
so I say let's sell Agnew and give the cash straight to Burley for
players.
|
49.298 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Thu Apr 30 1992 12:57 | 13 |
| Lawrance,
I have to agree with you again wee man,we have got to sell one
of our "big three", either Furphy,Agnew or Graham in order to raise the
cash the board can't supply.I think if it was me I would try and punt
Furphy,but I suppose its down to what other teams want.
Dundee seem to be scooping all the young stars in the lower
divs i.e Richie and Christie for 80K and 60K, so there might be some
truth in this one . How much do you think Gazza would fetch, me thinks
about 60K max....
Graeme...
|
49.299 | What Price Agnew????? | EAYV01::LGRACE | Walking down the Somerset Road.... | Thu Apr 30 1992 16:05 | 9 |
| I think that I would be quite disappointed if we only received 60k
for Agnew,as I really honestly believe that he is our main asset
at the moment,let's not forget that Agnew is on the verge of receiving
an Under 21's cap.If you consider the money that Sweeney of Clydebank is
valued at then we must be looking at realistically 200k for
Agnew.However,I must admit there isn't many teams in Scotland who
would part with that amount of money for him,especially since he
is yet to really prove himself.I only hope we don't let him go for
under 100k.
|
49.300 | End of season report.. | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Tue May 05 1992 14:10 | 38 |
|
Well, another season has come to an end with Ayr managing to finish
6th top which is their highest position for 10 years. A 1-0 victory
against Morton on Saturday saw Ayr leapfrog them into that position.
An entertaining first half was spoiled by some very bad tackling from
some of the Morton players, Pickering and Doak in particular, which a
very poor referee decided to let go. McTurk and Walker came in for some
pretty heavy treatment, and after the ref had let 3 bad tackles on
Walker go by, the bold Tommy took revenge by flattening the Morton
centre-half which resulted in some lengthy treatment for the big stick.
So bad was the ref, he even let play continue. McVie was helped off
following a late tackle from Alexander in the 2nd half, Gardner was
then strechered off after another late tackle from that waste of
money, Mahood. On both occassions the ref let play continue. He was a
disgrace.
Onto the football, I was very impressed with McTurk and in particular
Gardner who had a terrific game before being injured. Maybe he'll prove
me wrong in the long run.
On the Gary Agnew subject, I reckon we would be very lucky to get even
�70k for him. After all, he had a good start to the season but faded
after the Scotland u-21 story came along. He's a good prospect but has
still to prove himself.
Hopefully we will get some good cash for Agnew (Dundee being
interested) which Burley will get to try and attract some better
players to Somerset. I see Elliot is one of the free's from Rugby Park.
Maybe another bargain there for Burley who is looking for a good
winger.
We should hear by the end of the week how many are being released from
Somerset. Kennedy, Walker, Bryce, Purdie, Smith, Vincent from the
full-timers seems about reasonable to me. This would cut the wage bill
and enabled Burley to pick up some new players.
Danny.
|
49.301 | next year ??? | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed May 06 1992 14:15 | 15 |
| Along with Elliot, it would be worth Burley having a serious look at
Burgess and Campbell Clark, both frees from Kilmarnock.
Elliot was rumoured to be on trial with Ayr around Xmas time last
year.
I hear that Davie Kennedy has taken a free rather than go part -time.
rgds ... Stevie
PS what about the new strip !!
|
49.302 | YEUCH..!!!!! | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Wed May 06 1992 15:03 | 10 |
| re last
Surely "Zico" Kennedy doesn't expect to sign full time for any other
team! After all, they'll all be bigger and better than Ayr.
The strip was modelled at half-time on Saturday. All I'll say is that
the young female parading it was a damn sight more attractive than the
strip.
Danny.
|
49.303 | New Signing | MASALA::GMCDONALD | JOPPA | Fri May 08 1992 22:40 | 10 |
|
I heard yesterday that GB made his first signing,a 16 year old
left winger from Chelsea.It appears that the player is a local lad from
Prestwick and was a Scottish youth cap last year.Does anyone have any
info on the player?
Graeme...
|
49.304 | Light | AYOV27::BDOCHERTY | | Sat May 09 1992 07:13 | 2 |
| Sal is his second name Scott, they have signed a young lad I think that
was the name I heard.
|
49.305 | Light | MASALA::GMCDONALD | JOPPA | Sat May 09 1992 21:09 | 11 |
|
Sorry Billy the name doesn't ring a bell.I heard that Willie
Furphy has excepted a part time contract.Walker and Bryce have not
and are looking for other clubs.
The only fooltimers left will be Howard,Graham,George,Agnew,
McLean,Duncan and Gardner.
Graeme...
|
49.306 | Have a nice close season !!!! | MASALA::CPATRICK | D_Mob_happy_Safari_Bandano_1992 | Sat May 09 1992 22:51 | 7 |
| re-1
graeme,you got that right
"the only FOOLtimers left" they must be to stay at Ayr Utd....
SQF Jambo
|
49.307 | light | AYOV27::BDOCHERTY | | Sun May 10 1992 10:57 | 1 |
| Sal the boys name is Barry Scott.
|
49.308 | Latest Signing!!!!! | EAYV01::LGRACE | Walking down the Somerset Road.... | Mon May 11 1992 11:26 | 16 |
| RE .303
As previously mentioned Ayr's latest signing is Barry Scott from
Prestwick.He was originally an 's' Form with Hibs,then he accepted
a contract with Chelsea.However,he got homesick and asked to be
released.He returned home in February and signed on with Ayr Boswell
Boys Club Under 18's.He was highly rated before joining Chelsea
and since returning home he has been on trial with Dundee United,
St Johnstone,Kilmarnock and Ayr United.The first two clubs were
only willing to offer him a month to month contract at the moment
and both Ayrshire teams were willing to offer him Y.T.S. He has
obviously opted for Ayr however having seen him playing for Ayr
Boswell several times I am not so sure about him he certainly is
a tricky player he isn't very tall in fact he is extremely similar
to Lee Gardner.He has plenty of time to develop so you never can
tell what he is going to be like in a year or so and he could turn
out to be an asset.
|
49.309 | Juniors required. | MASALA::JROWAN | AUCHINLECK TALBOT, SIMPLY THE BEST. | Tue May 12 1992 18:11 | 4 |
| Re the free transfers, does anyone think any of the "frees" would make
good Juniors. Auchinleck are on the look out for a centre half IF big
Sam McCulloch retires. Any thoughts?.
|
49.310 | Furphy to go... | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Wed May 13 1992 13:26 | 27 |
|
Ayr have finally announced who won't be at Somerset next season.
Freed - Stuart Auld, Robert Brown, Mike Smith and Steve Vincent.
No surprises here although I would have hoped to pick up some cash for
Smith. They are all full-time so some money will be saved there.
On offer - Willie Furphy, Tommy Bryce, David Kennedy, Greg Shaw and
Lee Gardner who have all refused new contracts.
Furphy, the club captain who has picked up a couple player of the year
awards, is angry with what has been offered to re-sign. According to
reports in the Daily Express, he's been offered the same as 2 years ago
when he last signed a new contract. He has been with Ayr for 6 seasons
and club captain for the past 2. If what he say's is correct, I can
only imagine Burley is trying to force him out. Kilmarnock, Partick and
Sheffield United are reported to be interested. He has been Ayr's
outstanding player for the past 3 or 4 seasons. I hope we can get some
good money for him.
The others won't be missed with the exception possibly of Greg Shaw.
He attracted a lot of interest early last season but this seems to have
tapered off as the goals have dried up. Again, we may get a decent
offer for him.
Danny.
|
49.311 | Not again!!!!! | MADBAS::DSMITH | | Thu May 14 1992 10:14 | 10 |
|
Just when we thought it was safe.....
We've been drawn away to Partick Thistle in the 2nd round of next
season's Skol/League cup. What's our chances of actually beating them
this time?
Danny...
|
49.312 | none | AYOV27::DINV40 | | Thu May 14 1992 11:38 | 2 |
| none
|
49.313 | I'm Back | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu May 14 1992 17:03 | 23 |
| A bit late for this perhaps but in true Ayr United fashion, I've been
injured for the latter part of the season. ;-)
Highs
-----
Beating Dundee and St Johnstone in the Skol.
Scoring 3 in 12 minutes at Cappilowe
Gubbing Meadowbank 7-0. (I wish they had got relegated)
Duncan George equalising against the 'Well
Ally's hat-trick at Kirkcaldy.
Lows
----
Our crap part-time support
Losing to Kilmarnock
Losing to Stirling
Our crap board of directors
Furphy being put on the list
Every time I had to read how Ayr have no money and must sell to get
cash for new players.
Missing 2 games out of 55.
Kev...
|
49.314 | Was it the Glens or Partick ? | PAKORA::MBROWN | | Thu May 14 1992 22:01 | 5 |
| I don't see why you can't be happy with the Skol cup draw against
Partick Thistle, if the Tolbet can take 4 goals off them Ayr can do
the same.
Or will Partick sign all of the Tolbet team for the match against Ayr.
|
49.315 | PAPERTALK I HOPE | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Fri May 15 1992 10:10 | 11 |
| LADS,
Reading the Ayrshire Leader last night it said Partick Thistle
are interested in Furphy to slot in beside fat SUMO Rae,it said
it could be a player (Alex Kennedy)plus cash coming to somerset.
I hope the Leader is wrong cos after watching the junior cup final
Kennedy was utter crap,he was slow as shuch waater as they say.
who would you like to see in the number 4 jersey ????
cheers fin.....
|
49.316 | Signing... | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Sat May 16 1992 11:02 | 11 |
|
Today the daily record stated that Ayr have signed Clydebank
winger Gordon Mair for a nominal fee, this normaly means under 5K.
I think he is around 31 and as I remember not a bad player
"in his day".
What do you all think of this one lads??
Graeme....
|
49.317 | Motherwell Connection | EAYV01::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Sun May 17 1992 08:45 | 8 |
| sal,
Gordon Mair is 31,he played with Motherwell before Clydebank.
I dont know if its a good signing or not.I thought GB would have
try to sign a younger player in his mid twenties to thirty.I take
it we wont be signing David Elliot now.
cheerrs fin.....
|
49.318 | Ayr OAP FC | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon May 18 1992 10:36 | 15 |
| Contrary to popular belief, Gordon Mair will be 34 in September. I
think this is too old even for Ayr and unless he is on the Gordon
Strachan diet we'll probably get about 15 games out of him before his
pension comes through. Add this to other possible signings in Gahagan
and Russell and we could be going for the oldest midfield on record.
On the Alex Kennedy signing,
He is about the worst player I have seen at Somerset since Jimmy
Lindsay and surely Burley is not so stupid as to think he could replace
the White Brazilian with a Donkey like him.
Sal, Stop leaving yourself logged in as the phantom noter appears to
have struck again.
Kev...
|
49.319 | | MASALA::CPATRICK | Little Purple People Eaters | Mon May 18 1992 11:16 | 9 |
| re-1
Kev.....
that was no phantom noter,It was Sal himself...
honest Guv..I saw him do it (and write the note aswell)
SQF Jambo
|
49.320 | over 35's | MASALA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Mon May 18 1992 11:19 | 19 |
| Thanks Kev,,,,
Whats all this about Russel and Gahagan,is there some news
on them? ,,,,,info please...
If GB is going to sign two such old wingers as Mair and
Gahagan,it may be that he is going to use them to fill the same
position,,, ie one winger on the field at a time ..
But I doubt if he will sign Russel as well, that would be
pushing the boat out a bit to much.
Do you know the date of the Thistle game??
Graeme..
p.s your right about Kennedy...
|
49.321 | Have A Listen - He Sings Those Words ! | PANIC::ANDERSON | Bye Bye 'Pies | Mon May 18 1992 12:05 | 10 |
|
'Young' Gordon was definitely brilliant in his days with Notts County;
at least on the days when he felt like playing.
As David Bowie espouses in "Modern Love"....
....put your faith in Gordon Mair....
Rob
|
49.322 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon May 18 1992 17:25 | 22 |
| Sal,
The Ayrshire Post carried a story last week about Russell being
freed from Fir Park and that Burley could be interested. The News of
The Screws yesterday carried the story about Gahagan and quoted Ayr as
chasing him. Christ , if he can't get a game with Morton , why do we
want him ??
The Partick game is either the 11th or 12th of August. It will probably
depend on other games in Glasgow. I can see the headlines now.....
"It will give us a chance to concentrate on our league survival"
"I'm only 7 or 8 players away from the finished article"
"Injuries have cost us dear, Peter Weir has missed almost a season"
Aside from AUFC. I went along to Hampden on Saturday to see Heathside
lift the Scottish Amateur Cup and witnessed a far more entertaining
game than was played at the same venue the week before. Played in good
spirit, with end to end action and 2 well taken goals it made a pleasant
change from the "pass-pass-blooter" of the First Division. I wonder if
that young boy Jimmy McMillan fancies a trial with the Super U's ??
:-) (He's 35)
Kev...
|
49.323 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Tue May 26 1992 00:47 | 12 |
|
Any news on how the Ayr teams done at the International tourney
at Rozzelle.
Is there no transfer talk in the local papers or in the Dec
canteen???
Graeme..
|
49.324 | | SCOAYR::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue May 26 1992 09:54 | 6 |
|
I"ll find out today how the teams got on. (Advertiser out today)
No transfer talk in the canteen at the moment, all very quiet.
Kev...
|
49.325 | away the lads | AYOV14::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Tue May 26 1992 10:47 | 18 |
| SAL,KEV
Ayr Boswell U 14's (lawrence's team) won the scotland cup.
Ayr utd U18's got to the quarter final stage but got knocked out
by Dungannon Swifts who won the Scotland cup.
I watched the U18's in there first game and Barry Scott stood
out amile he's a nippy wee player,we also had a coloured boy playing
for us at central defence who was outstanding dont know who he was
though.
Abit of scoop i heard Willie Furphy is going to Falkirk and Greg
Shaw is going to St Johnstone,I dont know how much though.
I also heard GB signed a midfielder from an east kilbride team at
the youth tournement.
Fin........
|
49.326 | AULD DEPARTS AYR AND MOVES UP. | PAKORA::JROWAN | AUCHINLECK TALBOT, SIMPLY THE BEST. | Sat Jun 06 1992 23:57 | 7 |
| Auchinleck Talbot have signed Stewart Auld from Ayr Utd to replace the
current centre half who is retiring. I remember Auld when he played for
Pollok and believe he went to Clydebank after the '86 Junior cup final,
he must have went to Ayr after that. Any info on him guys??.
Talbots SQF spy.
|
49.327 | Auldy retires more like it ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jun 08 1992 13:59 | 30 |
|
Stuart Auld is 33 (approx) and played for Ayr for one season. He was
with Pollok until '86 as you said and then moved to Clydebank followed
by a move to Airdrie 2 seasons later. While at Broomfield he suffered
a punctured lung which kept out for almost a year and effectively ended
his career. Ayr bought him from Airdrie at the beginning of last season
and he played about 15-20 games. Latterly he did not figure at all in
either the first or reserve teams and I don't think he has played since
February or March. He is a good positional player, not tall for a
centre-half, but gets up well in the air (perhaps not as good as he
did) his worst problem is he is dead slow on the ground and a fast
striker will leave him for dead 9 times out of 10. He is probably best
remembered at Somerset for a shocking pass-back which let some hoopy
maggot in to score. :-)
I reckon the Talbot will be lucky to get a full season out of him, as
the number of games played by the juniors is far more than the senior
clubs have.
p.s.
>>>>>> -< AULD DEPARTS AYR AND MOVES UP. >-
^^^^^^^^^
Does your boss know your on drugs at your work ????????
:-)
Kev...
|
49.328 | ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT | AYOV14::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Thu Jun 11 1992 13:22 | 13 |
|
Tommy bryce is going back to his old club Clydebank for a nominal fee.
It's all very quiet just now and probably will be till the start of
July when hopefully we'll see GB making a few signing's before the new
season gets under way on the 1st of August when were at home to
Dunfermline and then Meadowbank on the Tuesday night.it wont be long
till we know the rest of the fixtures.
When are the new strips on sale??????
Fin.........
|
49.329 | Here we go!!!!!! | EAYV01::LGRACE | Walking down the Somerset Road.... | Mon Jun 15 1992 14:52 | 66 |
| Well lads here is a copy of our fixtures for Season 92/93,let's
hope it brings us better fortunes.
August
1st DUNFERMLINE
4th MEADOWBANK
8th Clydebank
15th Raith Rovers
22nd KILMARNOCK*
29th Hamilton
September
5th MORTON
12th COWDENBEATH
19th Dumbarton
26th St.Mirren
October
3rd STIRLING ALBION
10th Dunfermline
17th CLYDEBANK
24th Morton
31st HAMILTON
November
7th RAITH ROVERS
14th Kilmarnock*
21st DUMBARTON
28th Cowdenbeath
December
5th ST.MIRREN
12th DUNFERMLINE
19th Meadowbank
26th Raith Rovers
January
2nd KILMARNOCK*
16th Hamilton
23rd MORTON
26th STIRLING ALBION
30th Clydebank
February
13th MEADOWBANK
20th St.Mirren
27th Dumbarton
March
6th COWDENBEATH
10th Dunfermline
13th CLYDEBANK
20th Kilmarnock*
27th RAITH ROVERS
April
3rd Morton
10th HAMILTON
17th Cowdenbeath
24th DUMBARTON
May
1st Meadowbank
8th ST.MIRREN
15th Stirling Albion
Cheers
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49.330 | C'MON BOYS..DO US A FAVOUR!! | KURMA::RFREW | THEY CALL ME FUD FACE | Thu Jun 18 1992 13:15 | 5 |
|
Look boys,
Instead of wasting your's and the companys time gossiping
about a second rate bunch of no hopers, do yourselves a favour and
start supporting a decent club, like ..say..COWDYDEATH!!!!!!!!!1
|
49.331 | Bait Snaffled ! | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jun 18 1992 14:50 | 7 |
| Moderators,
Plese move note .330 to it's rightful home
Topic 50 should do.
Kev
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49.332 | "fud face" | EAYV01::BGILCHRIST | | Sat Jun 20 1992 10:50 | 3 |
|
ref : 49.330
No wonder thay call you FUD face.
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49.333 | Shares for Sale!!!!! | EAYV01::LGRACE | Walking down the Somerset Road.... | Sat Jun 20 1992 11:02 | 6 |
| Did anyone notice the advertisement in Saturday's Daily Record offering
a large quantity of Ayr United shares for sale.It doesn't give a
name just a box number to apply to.Does anybody know who is selling?
Is it Callaghan's shares? It seems strange to advertise them in
the Record especially when there is an Articles for Sale in the
Ayrshire Post. :-)
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49.334 | amatours | PAKORA::CGALLAGHER | | Mon Jun 29 1992 01:42 | 5 |
| Whoever is selling them better be prepared to hold onto them for a very
long time,because i cant see anyone in there right mind buying them.
mind you knowing the Ayrshire folk there could be more takers than i
think, but never mind maybe some day they will all see sence.
col.
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49.335 | hackers on the loose | KURMA::GMCDONALD | | Mon Jun 29 1992 03:10 | 3 |
| re-last. Mmmmmmmmm I wonder who wrote that one.
Graeme.
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49.336 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Jul 03 1992 10:53 | 8 |
|
Right Suckheads......
who can give me the dates for our pre season friendlies.
Is it still Sunderland,Southampton & Motherwell ???
Del
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49.337 | Burley's Bombers | MADBAS::DWOOD | | Fri Jul 03 1992 15:51 | 16 |
|
Del, (Dildo)
Give us a break...Heathside Amateurs, Drongan or perhaps
even Civil Service Strollers would be more in line with your
teams' capabilities.
What are Ayr going to do with no Derby game once Kilmarnock
go into the new super league ?
They could maybe take on Digital Amateurs in a head to head.
Sure it would be a tight game.
Dave
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49.338 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jul 03 1992 17:40 | 13 |
| Deldo,
I'll hazard a wild guess at the following;
21st July Southampton or Sunderland
23rd July Motherwell
25th July Maybole Juniors (prestigous Carrick Speakers Trophy)
28th July Sunderland or Southampton
Probably all wrong of course........
Kev.......
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49.339 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jul 10 1992 09:55 | 17 |
| A revised pre-season friendly list;
18th July (a) Stranraer Saturday 3pm
21st July (h) Southampton Tuesday 7:30pm
23rd July (h) Motherwell Thursday 7:30pm
27th July (a) Glenafton Monday ?????? at Ladywell Stadium
28th July (h) Sunderland Tuesday 7:30pm
29th July (a) Maybole Wednesday ????? at Ladywell Stadium
Went down last night to get my season ticket (steps back and waits for
inevitable slaggings......) and the ticket sales don't appear to be
doing too well compared to last year. I bought last years ticket on the
7th of June and I was ticket #179. This year I buy it on the 9th of
July and I'm #71......
Kev....
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49.340 | what would you consider a success season ? | BLUBUS::DREES | the black & white machine | Fri Jul 10 1992 14:57 | 18 |
|
Ok bears....just 'cause there is nothing happening at Somerset doesn't
mean we have to lose interest in here. The season starts in approx
6 weeks...so what would you consider a successful season ?
Lets keep the replies reasonably sensible...ie no smart arse replies
from the jambo topic...or me old boss..pecker !
Last season we finished 6th which was a good improvement on the season
before. I would like us to make the same improvement again this season
but to be honest I can't see it. I reckon with the players we have at
present and the lack of cash to strengthen the side we'll do well to
finish in the top half of the league.
A successful season for me would be to see the side again finish at
worst 6th and to at least once this coming season...beat the filth !
Del
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49.341 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jul 10 1992 15:18 | 16 |
| A successful season ?
Whit's that ?
Seriously, this year we will be lucky to retain the heady heights of
6th spot in the league. One new signing will not make that much of a
difference, so we have to look to Super Cammy to keep the scores down
and perhaps Ally Fraser to use some of his potential (what am I saying
?????) and provide good crosses for Dobbin to bullet home with his
case-hardened napper. Beating the Strippet Squirrels would be nice,
preferably at home on Jan 2 by about 4-0 or so, that's not too much to
ask is it ?
I'lle settle for 44-48 points and safe before the end of March.
Kev.....
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49.342 | | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HOME BOY | Sun Jul 12 1992 21:50 | 13 |
|
With the transfers of Smith,Bryce,Auld and Brown,also the loss of
Weir our squad is looking very thin.With this in mind I can't see us
improving very much at all.
Maybe the fact that our very young team is all a year older and that
the best keeper in the division is back from injury we should be more
positive.
If we can get kicked out of the B+Q and Skol early we could keep
fresh legs for the league and maybe pick up some more points.
But the bottom line is we need cash for players,without it promotion
will remain a pipe dream..
Graeme..
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49.343 | The Gorgie BOYZ are in Town | PAKORA::CPATRICK | The BERMUDA Triangle,spreads FEAR | Sun Jul 12 1992 22:53 | 6 |
| Without trying to upset anyone :-)
you's have about as much as chance of winning promotion as Hearts do
of winning the EUFA Cup...
SQF Jambo
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49.344 | Cammy Duncan | AYOV27::BDOCHERTY | | Mon Jul 13 1992 14:56 | 3 |
| Sal is Cammy Duncan going to be fit for the start of the season the
talk about here is that he is struggling can you shed any light on
that.
|
49.345 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jul 13 1992 16:23 | 7 |
| Cammy will be fit........
Kev....
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49.346 | super Cam.... | MASALA::GMCDONALD | HOME BOY | Mon Jul 13 1992 21:35 | 11 |
| Billy,
It stated in the "Advertiser" that he looks set to make it for
the start of the season.Although I wonder just how effective he will be
after such an indjury.I dont think he will be the same player but time
will tell.Here's hoping......
Whats the latest signing news from up the road in Gotham City ?
Is McClusckey getting a contract or not ?Whats your views on the
player?
Graeme....
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49.347 | Chicken George | AYOV27::BDOCHERTY | | Tue Jul 14 1992 09:37 | 3 |
| Sal I beleive at this moment he is still training with Killie but
whether he has signed a contract or not nobody seems to no.
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49.348 | Scissor Hands no more 8-) | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HOME BOY | Fri Jul 17 1992 03:53 | 6 |
|
Heard Purdie is on the list at his own request,what do you all think of
this latest departure from God's country???
Graeme...
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49.349 | 1st blood Ayr. | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HOME BOY | Sun Jul 19 1992 13:02 | 13 |
|
STRANRAER 0 AYR UNITED 3
Gardner (2)
Graham
Seems like a fairly good result with goals from Danny and Derek's
favorites ....8-).
Were any of you there ? If so what was the performance like ,what
was the team and how did Mair play..?
Graeme..
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49.350 | First at Somerset | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Tue Jul 21 1992 17:34 | 5 |
|
Can someone give a report on tonights game.
... Stevie
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49.351 | 2 in a row. | MASALA::GMCDONALD | HOME BOY | Wed Jul 22 1992 08:24 | 9 |
|
Ayr United 1 Southampton 0
GRA.
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49.352 | Help - I am not here !!!!! | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Jul 22 1992 09:06 | 3 |
| Can someone tell me who scored for Ayr and what the team was.
rgds ... Stevie
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49.353 | 2 1n 1 row. | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HOME BOY | Wed Jul 22 1992 09:16 | 13 |
|
Team... Cammy
Zico
McVie
Furphy
Nige
Mair
McLean
George
Gardner
Walker
Dobbin Subs Hood McTurk Shaw,Frazer...Scorer ....Zico.
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49.354 | PRE-SEASON FRIENDLY | AYOV16::RMURRAY | | Thu Jul 23 1992 23:08 | 3 |
|
AYR 1 MOTHERWELL 2
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49.355 | more info | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HOME BOY | Sun Jul 26 1992 04:41 | 6 |
|
Can anyone give more details on the Motherwell game??
Graeme...
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49.356 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jul 27 1992 13:32 | 51 |
| Ayr's first 3 friendlies are behind them now and 2 wins and a loss is
about right.
V Stranraer 3-0 An easy victory for Ayr against a Stranny side
showing a lot more new signings than Ayr. Danny Diver, Pat Kelly and
Ex-scumbag Steven Cody all played for Stranraer but looked far from
fit. Early play was scrappy with both sides taking time to settle in a
strong wind and the new passback rule certainly made a difference.
Some heavy tackling by Stranraer saw 3 Ayr players requiring treatment
in the first 20 minutes and Traynor was subbed at half-time after a
challenge from Butler. Lee Gardner latched onto a through ball from
Shaggy and his 16 yard effort beat Duffy for the opener after 22
minutes. Half-time saw the introduction of Tucker,Dobbin Hoody and Zico
and another fine cross from Gardner found Dobbin with time and space to
place a header under Duffy for the second. With seconds left, Gardner
fired home his second after an excellent series of 1-2's with Howard
and Tucker. Sanny was so upset with the Stranraer players he ordered
them back onto the pitch at full-time for extra training. Funniest
sight had to be a very drunk Bill McWilliams being refused entry and
then attempting to watch the game by climbing the bandstand outside.
Tuesday saw a similar Ayr side taking the field against Southampton
at Somerset and an excellent 1-0 victory was the result. Star man for
me was again Lee Gardner with Shaggy and Mair also having good games.
Saints were outplayed the first half and as usual a host of subs were
introduced at half-time. Highlights for me were Duncan George taking
the pi$$ out of Hurlock, Shaggy playing keepy-uppy through the midfield
during the build-up to the goal, Zico slamming in the winner and the
way Ayr generally played far better than their illustrious (?)
opponents. Bad points were Southampton's boring "cavalry charge"
forward at every Ayr break, the performance of the ref, Willie Young
who was absolutely shocking, and the way the passback rules are being
"bent" already. Whenever the Saints got an indirect free-kick near
their own goal, the guy got down and "kneed" the ball back to the
keeper. A crap crowd of 1700 watched the game.
Thursday brought the first real test when Motherwell arrived. Ayr
matched them in every way until we scored. Shaggy rounded Nijholt only
to caught around the ankle as he homed in on goal. He took the penalty
and slammed it home. Motherwell then stepped up at least one gear and
for the last 25 minutes had Ayr under real pressure. Cammy had two very
good saves during this period but was powerless to stop Nijholts
penalty equaliser after Furphy was adjudged to have fouled Steve
"Polaris" Kirk. With 2 minutes or so left some clever play left Kirk
with easiest of chances and he made the final score 2-1 to the 'well
Sunderland tomorrow night......
Kev....
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49.357 | Well how do you DEL BOY ???????? :-) | KURMA::DMACKAY | I'm a Jambo and proud of it | Tue Jul 28 1992 02:52 | 16 |
|
Hi.......
Ive just popped into this 2nd Division topic to introduce myself.....
My names Dougie and Colin was telling me that this is the topic
to get all the banter in ??? well you have to have a sense of humour
supporting Ayr after all :-)
I'm just back from Robbos testimonial match against Newcastle,where a
crowd of about 17,000 turned up.Do you think you will get that many
fans in total at all your home games this season.
TaTaForNow.....
yet another SQF Jambo
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49.358 | Welcome to the house of fun...:-) | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Tue Jul 28 1992 08:41 | 14 |
|
re last
Oh dear, here comes another loony!!!
Welcome to the football note, stick to your own note for discussions
about average teams always blowing competitions.
ps I'm sitting here glancing through the Daily Rangers. Attendance last
night was 11,105, 4,000 up on Saturdays attendance against Spurs. Just
where did you get 17,000 from?
Danny.
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49.359 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Tue Jul 28 1992 09:00 | 7 |
49.360 | Mumbo Jambo | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Jul 28 1992 09:53 | 24 |
| re .357
>>> Ive just popped into this 2nd Division topic to introduce myself.....
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh dear, another of those nice Hearts supporters has strayed into a
football topic to display his vast knowledge of the game......
>>> My names Dougie and Colin
One name not good enough for you ?????
>>>I'm just back from Robbos testimonial match against Newcastle,where a
>>>crowd of about 17,000 turned up.
^^^^^^
How many millions and millions of times have you been told not to
exaggerate ????
Banter ?
Whit's that ?
Kev.......;-)
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49.361 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Tue Jul 28 1992 10:39 | 9 |
|
Mod,
re. 359 ....let me explain...
Here on the west coast the name Dougie (or Doogie) is slang for
the private parts of the male anatomy. I just felt he was well
named. :-)
Del
|
49.362 | were on the way to Hampden | PAKORA::CPATRICK | Should I Stay'or'Should I Go | Tue Jul 28 1992 20:49 | 17 |
| Howdy troops.....and Danny,Kev and Del.... :-)
well how goes it...are you's ready for another season of goodwill
and banter ????
as for the attendance at the wee man's testimonial last night,I could
swear there was more than a crowd of 11,000ish .........maybe
WallARSE Mercer pocketed some for himself.........
SQF Jambo...
P.S......
I'm to blame for Dougies note,so don't be too hard on him,till he
finds out how to note properly
|
49.363 | | KURMA::GMCDONALD | home boy | Tue Jul 28 1992 23:49 | 10 |
|
Ayr United 0 Sunderland 0
It seems 2 trialists made their debuts with Ayr tonight.
The lucky guys were Graeme Robertson ex Partick and Ron McQuiltter ex
Gotham...By all accounts they did well.
Gra..
|
49.364 | The team that gave us Batman & Catwoman (Coisty) | PAKORA::JJACK | | Wed Jul 29 1992 04:58 | 6 |
|
Sal
Is that McQuiltter ex-Gotham City ?
|
49.365 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jul 29 1992 09:56 | 43 |
|
Ayr United 0 - 0 Sunderland
The score does not reflect either the balance of play or the action in
the game. Sunderland deserved to win on the night but poor finishing
and 3 *excellent* saves by Cammy kept the scoresheets blank. Ayr
fielded Graeme Robertson at right-back and Ronnie McQuilter at
centre-half. Both had been arranged as trialists with a view to
signing in place of the White Brazilian but it appears Furphy has
signed a month's contract so how the situation will progress, we will
have to wait and see. On the showing last night and in his games for
the Maryhill Magyars, I would sign Robertson as he is a free agent and
after Howard was subbed last night he moved in as sweeper between the
Furph and Hoody and played really well. McDuvet , I'm not sure about,
he is two-footed but his passing was pretty bad, mind you , it might
take a while before his dreadful experience in Never-Never Land wears
off.
Sunderland started very fast and almost scored in the first attack but
Cammy brought off an excellent stop to concede a corner. Ayr fell
foul of the updated pass-back rules when Agnew deliberatley headed to
Cammy who picked it up almost on the byeline and gave away a fruitless
free-kick. A lot of midfield play involving Gardner (who is expected to
sign a month's full-time contract) and George and some North of England
thug called Gary Owers would surely have resulted in the yellow card
being shown had it not been a friendly. This guy Owers is a complete
headcase and I would reckon 80% of the fouls committed by S'land were
by this tube. I was glad when he was subbed. Little else to report on
the game except for Cammy's saves and a last-ditch Paul McLean tackle in
the last minute to deny Byrne who only had to roll the ball into an
empty net after Cammy had ran out to challenge a through ball and
missed. Oh Aye, and John Colquhoun is a diving wee turd.
Team; Duncan,Robertson,Agnew,Furphy,Howard,McQuilter,George,Walker,
Graham,Gardner,Mair. Subs, Hood,McLean
Davie Kennedy has signed a 1-year part-time contract and Shaggy is
expected to do likewise when he comes back his holidays.
The pups lost 2-1 to the Glens on Monday night. They play Maybole
tonight and Kello on Monday.
Kev...
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49.366 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Wed Jul 29 1992 14:32 | 14 |
|
I would like to see us sign Robertson. He's never been outstanding
but he is a solid/no frills style full back who'll do a good job
in the 1st Div. Don't know about McQuilter though. Although Agnew was
a gift from Gotham, McQuilter isn't in the same class and although he's
two footed he is also very slow.
Bring on The Pars...
Del.
ps. Any predictions for Saturday
|
49.367 | Right intae yer ribs ! | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jul 29 1992 16:34 | 33 |
| re. 366
>>MADBAS::DREES "the black & white machine" 14 lines 29-JUL-1992 13:32
>> I would like to see us sign Robertson. He's never been outstanding
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'd like to see you at a game !
>> Don't know about McQuilter though. Although Agnew was
I'm not surprised you don't know about McDuvet, you've never even seen
him !
>> McQuilter isn't in the same class and although he's
>>two footed he is also very slow.
How do you know he's slow ? You been conversing with squirrels ?
>>ps. Any predictions for Saturday
Aye, the ground will be fairly empty. We will all be wearing black &
white. It will be a close game and.......
You won't know the score until you see it on the telly !
Altogether now......
PART-TIME SUPPORTER ,YOUR JUST A PART-TIME SUPPORTER !
;-)
Kev...
|
49.368 | Dirty Del doesit again!! ;-) | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | home boy | Wed Jul 29 1992 22:06 | 14 |
|
I have a feeling that we'll do the work on Sat. I'll stick my neck out
and go for 1-0 ,2-1 the Giants..
As for Del, if I can make a 140 round trip ,he must be able to stagger
the 200yds or so from his house.Or will he be supping ale at the Hunter
Bowl...mmmmmmm..
Horse Shoe bar at 2pm okay with you Kev.
Gra...
|
49.369 | hard times for honest men :-) | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Theres only one team in Ayrshire | Thu Jul 30 1992 00:44 | 24 |
|
Hello fellow space cadets...
Read an interesting article in tonights Evening News about football
in Ayrshire or rather the lack of it.
the 2 page article was mostly centered on Kilmarnock,but Ayr Utd did
manage to reserve a paragragh.It seems that us boys in the big city
have been oblivious to what has been happening to the Killie.
The reporter (I cant remember his name) but he was really gunning for
the Killie to be allowed to join the super league as they were the only
team in Ayrshire who could be relied upon to attract non-ridiculious
crowds.
The article went on to say that Ayr were known in the football circle
as the Artic Pole,everyone knows where it is but no one wants to go
there.
As the wind of change sweeps through Edinburgh and ground sharing seems
inevatable,would'nt it be constructive for Ayr Utd to play there home
games at Kilmarnocks training pitch.
So as the season approaches,I wish to send my sincere good wishes to
both clubs and I'll be keeping my eyes on both ends of the league to
see how yous are doing and to judge for myself who is No 1 in Ayrshire.
SQF Jambo
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49.370 | duff or bluff ??? | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Jul 30 1992 08:26 | 17 |
|
re.367
Kev, forget all these questions about the footy..what the boys really
want to know is....
Did you or didn't you...nudge nudge wink wink say no more....
Did you muffle the duffle ???
If you don't give us an answer..I'm popping my head over the divide
between us and finance and asking myself...!!!
ps. We have signed Robertson on a month's contract....whoopee
Del
|
49.371 | Zipped | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jul 30 1992 10:48 | 9 |
| Sal,
2pm sounds Ok to me.
Del,
You are being ignored.....
End Of Story.
|
49.372 | more defenders than Gotham have keepers. | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | home boy | Fri Jul 31 1992 03:12 | 8 |
| Kev,
What about this guy McQuilter ,do you think that GB will offer him
a contract,if so does this mean the end for Furphy? Also what do you
think the reason was for only signing Robertson on a one month
contract?
Graeme
|
49.373 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jul 31 1992 09:42 | 15 |
| Sal,
Last night's Leader says "he will be talking to both" but I've been
told that McQuilter is leaving the country soon so I don't think he'll
be signing. Furphy is , and always has been a first-choice but when he
had not signed, Burley had to bring in someone who could cover. Furphy
had been given a *substantial* rise in basic wages but is holding out
from signing for 1 or 2 years because he wants a signing on fee as
well.
We have signed Robertson on a months contract because that is how
long Furphy has signed for and it will give Burley an option if Furphy
won't sign another contract. But if Furphy does sign we don't need
another fullback/sweeper. We already have Kennedy,Traynor,Agnew,McVie
Burley,Howard and possibly Furphy.
Kev....
|
49.374 | Midtable... | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | Ayr's a toon wha nain surpasses! | Sat Aug 01 1992 20:44 | 37 |
| Ayr United 1 Dumfermline Athletic 1
Mair Kenedy o.g
I suppose this is not a bad start to the season,but realy Ayr
should have had both points.Dumferline controled the 1st half with
power rather than skill and in true Dumfermline style were kicking
everything that moved.The best chance in the 1st half fell to Robrtson
of Ayr who shot high and in the corner but Hamilton in the Pars goal
got to it.Dumfermline had taken the lead about 10mins earlier,and the
goal was a total nightmare for Ayr ,all Kenedy had to do was dip his
head and the cross would have ended up in ths stand.Instead he stuck
out his head ,,,and boom top corner with Cammy all at sea.
Shortly after the baffon was sent of along with McWilliams for
streetfighting!!
The 2nd half was all Ayr with Graham missing several before
McTurk shaved the post with a 20 yarder.Then came the goal ,good work
from Robertson saw the ball spinning out to Mair at the corner of the
box who let loose with a first time shot into the keepers bottom left
corner.
BTW Dumfrmline waisted about 10 mins with fake injuries....
Duncan *** Poor by his own standards
Robertson *** Poor passer but invlved all the time ,should sign him..
Agnew *** looked unfit but still gave his all...
Furphy **** Great game ,,strolled it...
Howard **** " " " "
Kenedy * NIGHTMARE
Gardner *** A lot better..But needs to give more...
George *** Not his greatest match,,tackled well..
Mair **** MOM..quite firt half ,great 2nd half ,,a good player.
Walker ** Usual.
Graham ** Usual.
Subs. McTurk ** looked lost at times ,good pace ,unlucky with 20
yarder.
Hood ? not used.... Crowd terrible around 2,500
|
49.375 | B&Q CUP | AYOV17::BDOCHERTY | | Sun Aug 02 1992 10:26 | 1 |
| Gentlemen good any of you tell me if there is a B&Q Cup this year.
|
49.376 | | PAKORA::SNEIL | I tot I tor a puddie cat | Sun Aug 02 1992 11:03 | 4 |
|
There sure is..First round on September 29th
SCott
|
49.377 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | Ayr's a toon wha nain surpasses! | Tue Aug 04 1992 10:22 | 4 |
|
Any predictions for the game tonight lads,I'll go for 1-0,2-0 Utd.
|
49.378 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Aug 04 1992 16:28 | 5 |
| 2-0 to the Paint-Spattered United.
Kev...
|
49.379 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Aug 05 1992 12:13 | 7 |
| Here is the report on last night's miserable 2-1 defeat from MTFC.
We were crap, they weren't.
End of Story.
A rather upset Kev of AYO.....
|
49.380 | Meadowbank - top of the league | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Wed Aug 05 1992 12:32 | 5 |
|
2 away wins in our first 2 matches. Somebody has to bring some success
to the capital.
Gary.
|
49.381 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Aug 05 1992 15:59 | 10 |
| Gary,
What's with the affinity for MTFC ? They don't have much going for
them (granted, probably more on the playing field at the moment than
AUFC), what with a hard core of 100 supporters, about 20 of which do
any travelling,a terrible stadium where everyone hates to go (fans and
players alike)no atmosphere at games, and an unmistakeably boring style
of football. Is is a fashionably "unfashionable" thing to do or what ??
Kev...
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49.382 | black and gold forever | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Wed Aug 05 1992 16:47 | 16 |
|
Kev, it probably because it's unfashionable. Everyone here seems to support
either Celtic or Rangers (mainly Celtic in Galway). I've had a soft
spot for them since they came into the league erspecially as they used
to have a name like Ferranti Thistle which was really nice.
I've never seen them play but I hope to get across someday.
Thistle have a habit of being involved in the promotion or relegation
battles. For something like the first 14 seasons they were never
outside the top 4 or bottom 4 of their respective division at the
finish. They're still the last capital club to have won a championship
(albeit the 2nd division).
Gary.
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49.383 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Aug 05 1992 17:01 | 12 |
| Gary,
I thought it would be the unfashionable bit that appealed to you. Their
own support are some of the weirdest guys your ever likely to meet.
They hold some of their players in cult status and although there is
not many of them, they manage to support 2 fanzines (2 more than AUFC I
might add). They seem to attract a lot of student types as fans as well
If you do manage to get over for a game, you could come to Ayr for it.
It would be less travelling. They visit again on the 13th of Feb 1993.
Kev...
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49.384 | 18 certificate 8-)) | KIRKTN::DMCCALL | OBSERVING THE HYPOCRITES | Wed Aug 05 1992 17:05 | 15 |
|
Gary ,
Did you know that Derek Grant of MTFC works at SQF in the stores
also ( and I dont mean this as a swipe ) but I can get my mitts
on the 0-8 thrashing by Killie on home video two years ago..
SQF Killie....
ps: dont watch alone
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49.385 | so many goals I lost count | KIRKTN::DMCCALL | OBSERVING THE HYPOCRITES | Wed Aug 05 1992 17:08 | 8 |
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re:last
make that score 1-8
SQF Killie
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49.386 | If I could turn back time!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Wed Aug 05 1992 18:55 | 8 |
|
Re.last Mmmmmmmmmmm, yes, much the same as the 7-0 dooing the GIANTS
of Ayrshire gave them last season.... ;^).
SQF HONEST MAN..
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49.387 | were back on the rails again | MASALA::CPATRICK | Should I Stay'or Should I go | Thu Aug 06 1992 11:22 | 11 |
|
Well Well Well......
The Mighty Ayr Utd get beat at home by the Superb Meadowbank Thistle.
This doesn't really surprise me as they are the 2nd best team in
Edinburgh after the Jambo's that is......
as far as I can see,Kilmarnock are the only team in Ayrshire who might
be capable of maybe snatching a point from the Thistle this season...
SQF Jambo
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49.388 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Aug 06 1992 11:39 | 6 |
|
At least one of the Edinburgh sides can come to the west coast
and win..... :-)
Del
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49.389 | hello hello,we are the GORGIE BOYZ | MASALA::CPATRICK | Should I Stay'or Should I go | Thu Aug 06 1992 11:46 | 9 |
| re-1...
del...Didn't the Scum from leith knock YOU's out of the League Cup 2-0
last season.So by my reckoning,thats 2 Edinburgh sides who have
travelled to the west coast in the last year and WON. :-)
SQF Jambo
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49.390 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Aug 06 1992 11:53 | 9 |
|
Your right Colin...
Meadowbank and Hibs have both proved they can win on the west coast...
whereas the Hearts...they just crap themselves everytime...:-)
Del.
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49.391 | hey hey | PAKORA::CPATRICK | Should I Stay'or Should I go | Thu Aug 06 1992 12:45 | 12 |
| re-1..
del,
I'm sure we would'nt crap ourselves against 1st division crap like
yous.....
SQF Jambo...
B.T.W.
sal,says yous have set up a SQF Jambo supporters club in your local bar
the horse shoe and that I will be welcome there anytime. ;-)
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49.392 | | MADBAS::DREES | the black & white machine | Thu Aug 06 1992 13:39 | 8 |
|
Yeh...we've set up a SQFjambo's supporters club in the horse....
it's the first cubicle to the left of the ribbed johnny machine...
I hear you like a tight squeeze !!!!
Del.
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49.393 | here we go | PAKORA::CPATRICK | Should I Stay'or Should I go | Thu Aug 06 1992 14:39 | 12 |
| Del,
from what you say,I take it that I would be more than welcome to visit
the Horse and leave in 1 peice....... :-)
SQF Jambo...
P.S.
We're holding a STAG night for Sal on the 18th August,with Exotic
dancers,you are more than welcome to come along and we'll show you the
big City.
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49.394 | CAN WE WIN IT THIS TIME | AYOV14::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Thu Aug 06 1992 17:50 | 3 |
|
Was the draw for the B,Q not made today.
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49.395 | | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Should I Stay'or Should I go | Thu Aug 06 1992 18:06 | 6 |
| re "can we win it this time"
NO
SQF Jambo
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49.396 | | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Thu Aug 06 1992 18:50 | 4 |
|
Thanks for all the info on Meadowbank.
Gary.
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49.397 | A tough one | AYOV17::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Fri Aug 07 1992 08:39 | 4 |
|
Ayr utd will play St mirren in the B,Q CUP on sept 29th at somerset.
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49.398 | if you hate St Mirren | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | A Sausage Supper and A bottle PILS Please | Fri Aug 07 1992 09:31 | 6 |
| RE-1
Lets hope you can beat those Paisley barstewards........
SQF Jambo
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49.399 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Fri Aug 07 1992 12:51 | 5 |
|
Oh jolly.....the B&Q Cup...yawn
Del.
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49.400 | come on lads........bite | MASALA::CPATRICK | A Sausage Supper & a Bottle PILS | Fri Aug 07 1992 14:33 | 15 |
|
Hi Troops.....
Sal says that if I'm ever in Ayr he'll take me to the Horse to meet
you's all....... :-)
Now.....What chances do you really have of making any impact in the
1st division and of a � decent run in any of the cups.
In my veiw I can see Kilmarnock gaining promotion as they seem to
have a good all round team and a good support also I forsee a good
cup run for them as not many premier teams would relish going to
Rugby Park......
SQF Jambo
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49.401 | Stuart Auld "Pure Class" | PAKORA::JROWAN | AUCHINLECK TALBOT, SIMPLY THE BEST. | Wed Aug 12 1992 02:23 | 5 |
| Having now watched Stuart Auld play for Auchinleck three times Ayr must
have a really good centre half who kept Auld out of the team.
The man is class both in the air and the ground, yes, another great
signing for the Talbot.
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49.402 | Stuart Auld | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Aug 12 1992 09:33 | 7 |
| Stuart Auld is no longer good enough in the air nor on the ground to
play senior football. Ask any Ayr fan who has watched him over the last
two seasons. He filled a gap at Ayr when we needed him and good luck to
him in the junior ranks.
Stevie
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49.403 | Glorious start!!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Wed Aug 12 1992 10:31 | 2 |
| Partick Thistle 2 Ayr 0
Anybody suprised!!!!!!!!
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49.404 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Wed Aug 12 1992 12:38 | 4 |
|
Yup, I'm surprised it wisnae 4 or 5 !!!!
Del.
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49.405 | Auldie wasn't the worst !!!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Thu Aug 13 1992 03:15 | 13 |
| rep 401..
Jimmy, I think I told you Auld would be a great junior .
IMHO he would make a great div 2 stopper.His only weakness is against
a small fast forward ,which the 1st div is full of.
He was also a lot better than what we have at the moment
for set pieces and scored 2 or 3 good goals for the Giants,including a
cracker at Gotham..
SQF HONEST MAN.
P.S another good freebee coming up is Ally Frazer...(sooner rather than
later )..
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49.406 | have I been sent to Coventry | PAKORA::CPATRICK | A Sausage Supper & a Bottle PILS | Fri Aug 14 1992 06:17 | 9 |
| Allo Troops....
I was wondering if you could help me out here !!!
I did'nt manage to catch the full draw for the next round of
the SKOL cup and I was wondering if maybe you could tell me
who you's are playing.
SQF Jambo
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49.407 | Down and nearly out 8-( | MASALA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Sat Aug 15 1992 21:52 | 9 |
|
Raith Rovs 1 Ayr United 0
Another game in which we failed to score .
Kev,what was the team and how did they play ?
Gra...
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49.408 | Cuddly Sid | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | A Sausage Supper & a Bottle PILS | Sun Aug 16 1992 04:26 | 8 |
|
I feel its time to call it quits with all you Ayr fans,I have been
a very bad boy over the last 6 months ,so its sorry with lots of
kisses...SSSSmmmmmmooooooottttcccccchhhhhhh.
SQF JAMBO
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49.409 | | MASALA::SWRIGHT | | Sun Aug 16 1992 06:32 | 4 |
| Sid,
That Curry must have gone to your head.....!!!!
Boris.
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49.410 | third from bottom already ! | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Aug 17 1992 12:12 | 24 |
| Raith 1-0 Ayr
A bit more encouraging to watch than Tuesday's gubbing at Firhill. Ayr
created a lot of chances in the first half and early in the second but
failed to convert any of them. Tucker had the best chance when he shot
straight at Tom Carson in the Raith goal and Walker had a goal chalked
off for an alleged foul by Dobbin on the keeper. A poor punched
clearance at a corner saw the ball fall to Brewster 20 yards out and he
fired through a crowded penalty area into the far corner for the only
goal after 72 minutes. Cammy had a couple of good stops and a fantastic
leaping save to stop a McStay free-kick which was a homer all the way.
Team;
Duncan,Kennedy,McVie,Furphy,Howard,Robertson,Traynor,Walker,Graham,George
and McTurk. Subs, Shaw and Hood. Shaw on for Tucker after 60 odd mins.
Best for Ayr were Robertson (we *MUST* sign him), McVie and McTurk.
Poor displays from Traynor and Howard. Big Ally did not look fit
either.
A prediction for saturday is 2-0 to Kilmarnock. (God, it hurt typing
that)
Kev.....
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49.411 | Bring on the Killie...... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Aug 19 1992 18:43 | 18 |
|
I attended the first game of the season against Dunfermline and left
thinking that Ayr played reasonably well and deserved at least the
point they got. Later that night I jetted off to sunnier climes for my
holibags. Imagine my surprise to return home 2 weeks later and noticed
that the black and white machine had still to win a game! To make
matters worse, they had lost at home to the mighty Meadowbank.
However, on reflection, it's still basically the same team as last
year. They weren't good enough then to maintain a challenge at the top,
they won't be good enough this season either.
Hopefully there will be an improvement against Killie on saturday, but
I can't see it. Thankfully I'll be out golfing then so I won't see the
gubbing that we'll probably get!!
Danny... (another part-time supporter this season!)
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49.412 | A Bonnie Lassie (yes) but him an honest man | PAKORA::DMCCALL | OBSERVING THE HYPOCRITES | Fri Aug 21 1992 13:43 | 20 |
|
Sal,
Best of luck on your big day tommorow.....hope everything goes
according to plan ( except the obvious )...
Like "any" derby the form book goes out the window, however with Ayr's
goal tally not to clever....
You've got a better chance of scoring tommorow at midnight...
and we ALL know the state you'll be in 8-)))))))
SQF Killie...
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49.413 | Easy Easy Easy | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Aug 24 1992 09:49 | 24 |
| Ayr United 2 -0 Kilmarnock.
A fairly easy victory against a lacklustre Kilmarnock who suffered from
all the hype given to their Skol Cup victory against Hibs. Played in
terrible conditions, the game was never going to be a classic
especially with Les Mottram as a referee in a very over-zealous yellow
card using mood. Kilmarnock did not force Duncan to make one save
during 90 minutes, but the problems which cost them they game lay at
the back where Tait looked like little-boy-lost playing against Ally
Graham and Montgomerie chose Saturday to have his worst game of the
season (so I'm told). There is no way Killie can hope to tackle an
aerial threat with a centre-half like Tait. He wouldn't make a good
centre for a doughnut let alone a football team. Kennedy's goal was
well-taken altough I'm inclined to think it was more of a "flick-on"
than an attempt. Still , Tom Black couldn't clear it and the ball ended
up nestling behind Geddes. The second goal was a personal nightmare
for Monty when , after good work by Agnew down the left, he deflected
Garry's shot past the despairing Geddes and into the net for Ayr's
second in 51 mins. Ally Graham contrived to miss from 2 yards and
Traynor was unlucky with a lob from 40 yards. All-in-all a good
performance with Robertson outstanding in defence again. Only bad
points were the 5 bookings , which I felt were a bit harsh.
Kev....
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49.414 | At last a win..... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Aug 24 1992 14:21 | 13 |
|
Well troops, I retired from the golf after 12 holes on saturday, cold
very wet and miserable. I then tuned in to Worst Sound and immediately
my spirits were lifted with a match report from Somerset. Why didn't I
go, our first win over Killie in 6 attempts and I wasn't there.
Kev, what was the team on Saturday, who did and didn't do well?
ps Your report was very humdrum Kev, I expected a more glowing report
on the boys performance, a few words of pity for the afflicted etc!
Danny.
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49.415 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Aug 24 1992 17:08 | 23 |
| Team; Duncan *** Never tested throughout the 90 mins
Kennedy **** Marked Carpet Burns out of the game
Agnew *** Tireless running on the left as usual
Furphy **** Back to his old self.
Howard *** Solid enough but weak in the air
Robertson **** Star man again.
Traynor *** Fairly quiet but did nothing wrong
Walker *** Full of running. Pulled Monty to bits
Graham **** Won everything against Tait.
George *** Solid as usual. Fierce tackling
McTurk *** Fairly Quiet. One attempt in 1st half.
Shaw ** Little time to impress.
Mair Unused.
The reason the match report was fairly bland is because there are at
least 3 more Derby games this season and while putting Killie to the
sword on Saturday was very enjoyable, mouthing off about it might be
a bit embarrassing if we get gubbed next time around. The Killie noters
who were at the game will know how badly their team played without me
slagging them off in here.
Kev,....
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49.416 | One team in Ayrshire...for the moment. | AYOV17::LGRACE | | Tue Aug 25 1992 09:38 | 26 |
| Kev,I think you are a bit generous to Traynor saying that he did
nothing wrong.I thought he had a stinker,his crossing was poor and
he was caught out of position several times in the 1st half.He almost
gift wrapped a goal for Killie when he headed a Killie cross straight
into the middle of the area and into the path of a Killie player.Anyway
apart from Traynor I think your assesment was spot on.Gaz Agnew still
looked a bit unfit but still put in a good performance but Nigel Howard
gives you heart attacks every time he goes for a high ball as you don't
know where it is going to end.I am one of Ally Graham's critics and
despite a gutsy performance from him on Saturday , I still have to ask!
What about that miss? no striker should miss a chance like that.If the
scoreline had been 0-0 at the time I think more people would have
echoed my feelings instead it was a case of "hard luck Ally",rubbish
he should have buried it.I was also suprised to see McTurk going off as
I thought he played well and although psycho Walker did well also I
thought Tommy was heading for a red card,his determination and
committment is unquestionable but he does go over the top now and
then!! Anyway a great result but as you say Kev there is three more
Derby games to go so let's quietly enjoy this moment.
Lawrence
P.S I don't believe it!!! I have just read in today's Sun that we have
signed a 35 year old Centre Half called Malcolm Shotton from non-league
Frickley.Apparently we have pulled him out of semi-retirement,he played
over 400 games for Hull City but got freed after Dale Roberts left.It
states that Dale Roberts persuaded Burley to sign him.What's your views
on this one lads?
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49.417 | Youth coach | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Tue Aug 25 1992 12:06 | 11 |
|
re last,
Anything you read in that rag should be taken with a bucket of salt.
If the story is true, I can only imagine Burley is bringing him in
as a coach for the youngsters as John Connelly, last years coach has
packed it in due to pressures of work. I don't think we'll be seeing
him challenging for a first team place.
Danny...
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49.418 | Malcolm who???????????? | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Tue Aug 25 1992 12:34 | 7 |
| Re last
This latest signing isn't going to be a youth coach as they have
already filled John Connolly's position.I imagine that he must be
getting signed as cover for Howard but even that is odd as we a few
players currently at the club who filled in at Centre Half and I don't
suppose they would bring him all the way up here to play for the
reserves every week.
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49.419 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Aug 26 1992 09:47 | 10 |
| This guy Shotton has not been signed yet. It was expected that he would
play last night in the reserves against Albion Rovers (1-1, Hood scored
by the way) but I still find it rather odd that we are even thinking
about someone that old.
P.s. Lawrwence, you're right, I forgot about Traynors crap "clearance".
It's amazing how drink can still affect your memory 2 days later ;-)
Kev....
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49.420 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Aug 31 1992 10:03 | 25 |
| Two games over the weekend saw Ayr draw one and win one. Saturday's
point at Hamilton was very luckily obtained although the Accies took
until 3 mins from the end before their pressure told. Hamilton had the
best of the first half but it was Ayr who almost scored when Ferguson
could only parry a shot into the path of McTurk who blasted the ball
off the bar from 5 yards. Ayr came more into the game nearer half-time
and a good deep cross from Walker found Super Ally unmarked at the back
post and he steered a header across goal and in at the far post after
42 minutes. Hamilton had a goal chalked off for a foul on the keeper
but the writing was on the wall when Duncan was forced into 2
outstanding saves to deny McDonald an equaliser. Ayr brought on Mair
after 50 mins for the injured McTurk but unbeleivably they subbed him
with 14 mins left. In the time he was on the park (26 mins) he touched
the ball no more than 5 times. Shaw came on and almost scored straight
away. Walker forced Ferguson into conceding a corner and Shaw fired the
loose ball over the bar. Minutes later it was 1-1 when Traynor was
shafted at right-back for the 23 rd time by McDonald and his cross was
headed home by Gary Clark.
On Sunday Ayr travelled to Girvan for the Ayrshire semi and ran out 6-0
winners with Annbank striker Jimmy Carse firing a hat-trick and hitting
the bar and post. Ayr fielded Willie Spence ex Clydebank in nets and
Robert White ex St Mirren in defence.
Kev...
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49.421 | Burley's BOOB... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Aug 31 1992 11:05 | 21 |
|
I suppose we should be happy with a point from Hamilton, but after
a fairly good first half Ayr fell to pieces after the break. McTurk
blasted over from 5 yards, we had a couple of half-chances before Ally
left Fat Sumo Rae marking space to score with a well directed header.
Accies hadn't really threatened too often in the first 45. The 2nd half
was a disaster for Ayr and we were lucky only to concede one. In my
opinion some of the blame must go to Burley. He took McTurk off from
right midfield and replaced him with Maher who proceeded to play on the
left. Every Hamilton move after that went down the left (Ayr's right)
as no-one was covering the middle of the park. Traynor had a total
nightmare at full-back and as Kev so eloquently said, was shafted
umpteen times by MacDonald, eventually leading to their goal.
Cammy Duncan had a couple of brilliant saves and generally looked very
impressive and confident, especially with high balls into the box. The
midfield was non-existant in the 2nd half, leaving the defence with an
awful lot of work to do.
Danny...
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49.422 | WHITE ??? | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Mon Aug 31 1992 12:58 | 4 |
| What is known of Robert White.
.. Stevie
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49.423 | mistaken identity | AYOU18::JHILL | | Tue Sep 01 1992 11:06 | 8 |
|
He builds COBRA systems in stage 2 :-) :-)
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49.424 | FURPHERINO NO MORE | AYOV14::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Wed Sep 02 1992 09:05 | 14 |
|
Willie furphy and Lee Gardener were both given free transfers on
monday.
Furphy was offered a month's contract but knocked it back.
it also looks as though GB is set to sign Malcolm Shotten who GB says
is pretty fit (nothing like Gordon Strachan though)and FAT willie
spence, for cover for super Cammy.
whats the verdict on all of this lads
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49.425 | End is nigh!!!!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Wed Sep 02 1992 11:30 | 14 |
| Re last.
I just don't understand what is going on at Somerset.How can we justify
giving one of our few assets a "Free" transfer.I know that there wasn't
any offers but maybe our asking price was too high,we should be getting
something for him even 10,000 is better than nothing.As for Gardiner
his problem is that he thinks he is too good for Ayr just because he
played for Aberdeen RESERVES,he showed up well during pre season
matches but he still isn't good enough for Premier football.I agree
with Burley's idea that if you don't want to play for Ayr then go,but
at the same time we need to sell players not give them away.I wouldn't
be suprised if Furphy is snapped up by the Baghdad boys as they have
been long admirers of him,it's time the fans let their opinions be
known to directors of this club as they are pulling us under.
One slightly pissed off United fan
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49.426 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Sep 02 1992 13:20 | 23 |
| The problem with asking the fans to boycott/barrack/complain is that
the apathy in the boardroom has also affected the terraces. Remember a
couple of years back when a walkout was planned for a game against
Forfar. It never materialised and the board laughed in our faces. Then
there was Loudon's farcical comments at a supporter's do when he said
that paying money to watch the team did not mean you could voice an
opinion at a match. We have taken so much crap from them in the past
they take it for granted that they can do anything and the fans will
accept it. Pressure from the fans brought about change at Brockville
and Devastation City but unless we do are seen to care about the club
then the board will continue to make ludicrous decisions which will
inevitably spell the end for Ayr as a football club. And while I'm at
it, Burley should pack his backs and get lost as his tactical decisions
during this season have been nothing short of ridiculous. To watch
Traynor on Saturday get turned inside out for 45 minutes solid was
painful, yet not one comment was made in the press about that or the
daft substitution of Mair on for McTurk and then Shaw on for Mair.
Crazy does not describe it !
Give the captaincy to Robertson and the managers chair to Roberts.
Kev...
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49.427 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Wed Sep 02 1992 13:29 | 14 |
|
Thats it...I'll noooooooo be back.
The White Brazilian has been our most consistent player for seasons,
so we free him. Confused...I certainly am.
I guess now that I've bought a house in Gotham there's only one
thing left to do..
I'm joining the Baghdad Boys...
Del. AYOkillie
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49.428 | Sick as the proverbial parrot... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Sep 02 1992 13:53 | 28 |
|
Freeing Furphy, who has been our most consistent player for the past
5 seasons or so, proves to me that there is no ambition among the so
called directors at Somerset Park. Furphy was the club captain at the
beginning of the season when his contract was up for renewal. He was
offered the same deal as he signed 2 years previous, not surprisingly
he turned it down. If what I hear is true, he held out for a 5k
signing on fee which was not forthcoming. We have become a joke club
in Scottish football and are slowly getting worse, mainly due to the
muppets on the board. They tried to con the fans by going full-time
a few years ago, allowing Ally McLeod to sign umpteen clowns on full
time contracts, most of whom have since been freed and have returned
to junior football. We need a board of directors and sponsers willing
to support the club and allow the team the resources to attempt and
maintain a serious promotion bid, otherwise we will continue as an
average to poor first division side.
To echo Kev's point, I cannot understand Burley's efforts at Hamilton
on Saturday. Everyone in the crowd could see where Hamilton's goal was
going to come from, yet for 45 minutes no effective change was made to
nullify this danger. Freeing Furphy makes matters worse, but as Burley
has said, he's lined up a "FIT AND STRONG" 35 year old currently
playing in non-league football, to replace him!! Very ambitious move.
Danny...
ps Good luck to Willie Furphy if he ends up at Rugby Park.
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49.429 | | AYOU63::JHILL | | Wed Sep 02 1992 15:49 | 17 |
|
Well troops I have to echo all the previous replies on this matter.
This must be one of the strangest ever decisions made by an Ayr manager and
there have been a few crackers over the years. I can imagine there are
a few managers across the the country who'll be rubbing their hands at
the prospect of getting the bargain of the season.
I think it must also throw up questions about Burley and the board.
i.e. did the board make the money available to meet Furphy's demands or
not, if the money was there why did Burley refuse to pay up ?
Steep.
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49.430 | One Malky Shotton!!!!!!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Thu Sep 03 1992 09:26 | 10 |
| I think it is obvious by Burley's comments in the paper that there was
no money made available for Furphy.It seems that Burley justifies
giving frees as a method of saving two full time wages.I think it is
all too clear that we have deep financial worries although it is going
to be interesting to see what Shotton is being offered to sign on.It is
incredible that the board can sit back while all this is happening and
still try and tell us that they want the best for Ayr,the best joke I
have heard for a while was in this week's Ayrshire Post:
Quote from Burley"Shotton will strengthen our PROMOTION bid"
I think we have one mis guided man up there at somerset.
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49.431 | one malcolm shotton? | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | We fear change | Thu Sep 03 1992 10:47 | 6 |
|
Is this the same Malcolm Shotton who played for Barnsley a few
seasons ago? If so, the guy has a lot of heart. I remember him playing
on with a broken bone in his foot.
Ian.
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49.432 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Thu Sep 03 1992 12:53 | 6 |
|
Not sure about Barnsley but he is ex Oxford and is at present
playing with non-league Frickley. At 35 he should be one for
the future :-(
Del.
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49.433 | SACK THE BOARD | AYOV14::FHEWITSON | Black And White Army | Thu Sep 03 1992 13:17 | 16 |
| RE .430
LAWRENCE,
Ally Mcleod is back??????????????????????????????
I THINK THE DIRECTORS HAVE BRAINWASHED GB INTO THINKING, HE'S SENILE-
-Ally Mcleod.
Ally Mcleod
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49.434 | Mally babes | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | We fear change | Thu Sep 03 1992 19:00 | 10 |
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re. -2
yeah, its the same Malcolm Shotton.
A solid defender, not a lot of style, not a lot of pace, but as the
commentators so often love to say...
"He's the kind of dependable pro you like to have in your side!"
Ian.
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49.435 | Attention Division 2 | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Sun Sep 06 1992 13:44 | 33 |
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Saturday's defeat at home by Morton has left Ayr sitting 2nd bottom
in the league, a win would have seen us move up to 6th top but too
many missed chances in the first half let us down. Graham should have
had a couple, one or two others missed as well. Morton's first goal
should have been disallowed for a foul on Robertson as he moved to
clear a corner. The push in the back resulted in an own goal.
Ayr had plenty of possession in the 2nd half but never looked like
scoring. A non-existant midfield failed to create any real openings.
Howard was sent off for a professional foul midway through the half.
He should have taken Davie Kennedy with him as the brainless one was
caught in possession when Ayr were breaking from defence. The
resulting through ball caught Ayr on the wrong foot as the defence had
all pushed out expecting a counter-attack through Kennedy.
Our new 35 year old centre half made his debut as captain! To be fair
to the guy, I would describe him as an over-the-hill carthorse with
as much footballing ability as Davie Kennedy. I shudder to think how
many goals we'll loose this season. Traynor, Kennedy and Shotton have
to be replaced now or it'll be a long season at the wrong end of the
league. We desperately need some new faces in mid-field, George is
suffering through lack of support in the middle.
Onto the ref now, he was a total disaster, no consistency in his
decisions at all. He booked George for his first and possibly only
foul in the game (he's now suspended). Graham and some dirty Morton
chappie were booked for dissent, yet when Howard gave the ref dugs
abuse over some weird decision, he got off with a warning. I think
he's one of the new grade 1 refs, he's got an awful lot to learn.
Danny...
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49.436 | Gee me piece 8-) | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Wed Sep 09 1992 15:02 | 39 |
| Okay enough is enough,,,whats all this anti Burley sickness that
going around these days....
The man has done a great job for the club (unlike the muppets on
the board)...Let me just put is record on the table for examination..
In 18 months he has taken us to the 1/4 finals of the Scottish
Cup for the first time in 20 years ,the 1/4 final of the league Cup for
the first time in 25 years and the final of the B+Q Cup ( okay mickey
mouse),but some teams didn't make it , some teams from Ayrshire that
is)..Add to all this our highest league position in 10 years and you
must agree ,not a bad record..All this with no cash and a team of
juniors handed to him by the real villan of the piece...
Okay he has made mistakes in the market i.e Signing Auld and not
taking the Shaw money..But show me a gaffer who hasn't.
As for the Furphy nightmare ,we really need to know the facts ,and
we don't,my personal opinion is that Robertson is a better player and
he cost nothing so what the hell.
If they don't want to play for us bbyyyyyyyyyeeeeee..
On to Shotton ,its hard to tell what he is going to be like after
one game espiecally when he only met the team in the dressing room..
he won a League Cup medal in 86 with Oxford so he's been around and on
Saturdays performance he knows how to take a player out , so lets wait
and see ...Lets not compare him to Furphy as he is a marker not a
sweeper,if you all must groan about the loss of Furphy ,think about how
well his replacement "Robertson " is playing.
GB has no money for players so he is trying to build a long ball team
that is tough at the back with players who are not silky soccer players
but are hard phisical types ,and who want to play for Ayr.His main
weakness is his forward assesment ,we play with 3 who are all mince,if
we had 2 good ones we could have have another midfielder which gives us
the option of useing a man to man marker for troublesome players like
Burns /McDonald and Hopkins .
To sum up its not the gaffers fault its the board's.....
SQF HONEST MAN.
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49.437 | Super Ally must stay... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Sep 09 1992 15:46 | 25 |
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Welcome back Sal!!
In reply to your little ditty, we all know the board is to blame
for the current set-up at Somerset Park. Burley can only do so much
given the lack of finance available to him. His hands were probably
tied with the Furphy situation but I cannot understand why he has
replaced him with Shotton. There must be several good young defenders
in Scotland who could have been snapped up. I may have been a bit harsh
on Shotton after only 1 game, but I honestly can't see him doing a job
for Ayr.
With regards to the forwards, Ally Graham would still be an automatic
choice of mine for the team. On Saturday he missed a couple of sitters
but he won so much in the air it was embarrassing. As you said, Burley
is trying to play the long ball game, without Graham where would we be?
A decent midfield would support Graham, picking up a lot of his
knock-downs and creating chances from there. We do not have a creative
player in the middle of the park. George is the hard man in the middle,
he has no-one there to take the ball from him and create openings. As I
said before, Davie Kennedy and John Traynor are empty jersey's most
weeks; they have to be replaced now or it's downhill from here.
Danny...
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49.438 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Wed Sep 09 1992 16:11 | 27 |
| Dan, Fair comment and I agree with most of your points.There is
a creative player available at the moment, Gordon McLeod of
Dundee has been given a free and is due to sign for the
mighty wait for it Meadowbank ,,surely we can out bid them.
But I feel the main problem is up front ,we have only
scored about 6 goals this season.Walker is utter crap and
should have been replaced 3 seasons ago ,McTurk needs more
time and Dobbin has been missing chances galore,but your
right the long ball demands a target.So hemust stay but lets
get him a partner that can take a man on and shoot at goal
from further than 6ft...
Smith of the Accies is available as is Gilmour of Dumbarton
and Harvey of Airdrie ...All are proven goal grabbers.,
Okay so we;ve got no cash but we get twice the gates of
Hamilton Raith and Morton who are all full time and chaseing
a premier spot ,,so how do they do it. Or is our board
pulling the wool....
P.s Tell Del I'm going to give him a really serious talking
to A/ For being so silly and moving to Gotham ( he'll need to
learn to have dirt jamed under his finger nails or they'll
never accept him). And B/ For those stupid remarks about
switching teams. "HONEST" I knew he was joking about that.
He was joking about that,wasn't he........8-)
SQF HONEST MAN FOR EVER !!!!!!
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49.439 | | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Thu Sep 10 1992 16:19 | 8 |
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It seems Burley is going back to a four man defence on Saturday
in a bid to play wingers . This he thinks will give our forwards more
chances .What do you all think of that ? Also do who you all think will
make up the back four,will Robertson go back to full back ?
GRA.
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49.440 | Couldn't score in a barrel of f******!!!!! | AYOV17::LGRACE | | Fri Sep 11 1992 09:22 | 8 |
| Re last
I think with Howard suspended this week then he will play Robertson and
Shotton in central defence with either Traynor or Kennedy at Right Back
and Garry Agnew at left back.As for playing with wingers to help create
more goal scoring chances,well I don't see what difference that will
make as we haven't got anybody who can take chances.However,I an still
confident that we will win tomorrow.
'L'
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49.441 | UTD ARE ***** | AYOV14::FHEWITSON | UNITED FOREVER | Sun Sep 13 1992 08:56 | 16 |
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AYR O COWDENBEATH 1
It's looking bleak lads.
There has to be a few questions asked about GB tactics on saturday like
Robbo has been playing great as sweeper then suddenly GB plays him as
a right winger,it was his worst game for utd since he came.
It was all AYR most of the game and i think Gaz Agnew's penalty miss
summed it all up(the keeper was lucky as f***).
I think that proves yesterday that we badly need a striker, a proven
goalscorer,but knowing how were strapped for cash we'll probably sign
Billy Carse from Annbank Utd.
LOUDON HAS GOT TO RESIGN NOW.
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49.442 | Blue Brazilians Box Burley's Babes | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Sun Sep 13 1992 12:59 | 18 |
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....
Glad I didn't renew my season. Lets face it boys we weren't good
enough last season so why should it be any different this season.
We've freed our best player, signed probably the two oldest players
in professional football, the board have no cash and no ideas and
it now looks as if Burley is taking a flakie on the tactic side of
things.
Things are not looking too rosy....8 league games played..1 win..3
draws...4 defeats. Relegation material without a doubt boys.
Sal...it's over to you, I need an optimism injection.
Now where did I put that hoopy top. :-)
Del
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49.443 | Down and nearly out.... | MASALA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Sun Sep 13 1992 21:05 | 19 |
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Del, No optimism here pal ,we are deep in the brown stuff .That
must be the worst result since Willie McLean...
What I will say is the guts of last season's team are still
there,and we did finish 6th last term so with that in mind it will come
together.
BUT,,,if we don't start to find the net soon we will be
fighting the drop all season and this time it just might be our turn.
I think if they spend say 25K on a striker, any stiker then we will
survive.Or 150K on three pro's could take us up ,but with a board that
won't pay Furphy 5K ,what can I say..
The only option we have up front is Shaw and for some reason
GB won't play him .IMHO he is the best finisher at the club ...
Bring back the Slud !!!!!!!!!
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49.444 | Fun Time !!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Mon Sep 14 1992 06:13 | 27 |
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Okay lads , our season is just about over before its begun , and with
that result on Saturday its begining to feel like Willie McLean
revisited.What a team he put out , can you all remember them ? I bet
Kev can . So for a wee laugh , and God knows we need one , hows about
puting together the worst United team since,say,reconstuction in "75".
That will keep it easy for you all , and there will be plenty of
crackers to pick from,well here goes....
Keeper.......PURDIE by a mile
R Back........SHANKS what a tash
L Back........LOVE still hate him
Sweeper.......AHERN known as ahernia
C Half........GILLESPIE oh boy
L Mid .......Wier 50K for that
C Mid........McCully quite simply the worst footballer I've seen.
C Mid........Ward just pips Wolfie
R Mid........Evans not Stevie fae Troon
Forward......Kean nice perm
Forward......McCrackin maybe just a bit unfair here.
Subs from....Walker , Lindsay , Mauchline , Smart , Ashwood , Fleeting
Come on Kev , Del , Bean , Dan , L , Fin and Steep beat that !!! ;-)
Gra...
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49.445 | We rake in bucket !! | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Sep 14 1992 11:05 | 24 |
| Worst team since recontruction ?
How about Saturday's team ??
No ? Well try this lot.
1. Northcote (lost 5 goals in 45 mins at home to Dumbarton)
2. Brian Ross (we got 8 grand for him, amazing)
3. Joe Love (couldn't cross himself)
4. Smyth
5. Gillespie
6. Walsh
7. John Miller
8. Joe Gillies
9. Stewart Mauchlen
10 Steve Evans (the 1st)
11 Jimmy Lindsay
Subs. Purdie, Ward, Kean, Ashwood, Robert Brown, Armour, Lex Grant
The list is endless, but I reckon my shower of crap could even lose
to Killie.
Kev....
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49.446 | Willie McLean all is forgiven!!!!!! | AYOV17::LGRACE | | Mon Sep 14 1992 11:22 | 4 |
| To pick the worst Ayr team since reconstruction is a hard job as there
has been so many bad players but after watching saturday's game there
will certainly be a few of the present squad in the "Ayr United worst
ever team hall of fame".
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49.447 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Tue Sep 15 1992 12:13 | 15 |
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1. Goofy (shades it from Purdie)
2. Brian Ross (undescrible)
3. Joe Love (the fairy princess)
4. Brown (the future Scotland Captain...!??!)
5. Gillespie (lanky & talentless...big bird mark 2)
6. McCracken (Dooogie,Dooogie)
7. Gardiner (Lee) (waste of time and space)
8. Evans (not Stevie)
9. Dobbin (boy...do I hate Ally Graham)
10 Masterton (his head never knew what his feet were doing)
11 Grant (Lex) (his head never knew what his feet were doing mark 2)
Del. (who could name a squad of 40)
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49.448 | ex | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Tue Sep 15 1992 12:14 | 11 |
| Sal,
You say that Ayr could not afford to pay Furphy five grand for a
signing on fee. Well the truth of the matter is that Furphy withdrew
his signing on fee request and asked for the same terms as last season.
Ayr agreed with the same wages but would not pay his expenses as they
had done for the previous three years. Therefore Furphy refused to lose
money playing for Ayr - the rest is history .
... Bean
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49.449 | more fun !! | KURMA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Wed Sep 16 1992 00:38 | 27 |
| What about the best Utd formation since 76 but only on their form
for Utd..
Here's mine for what its worth.
1....Duncan
2....Nichol
3....Connor
4....cant think of a good one.
5....McAllister ( at his peak the best Ayr player not to get a
move .Gers were ready to sign him untill they
found out what school he went to)
6...McLaughlin super was the best name for him
7...Christie the best since 76 but not a patch on Doyle or
Young.
8...Crammond
9...Rambo
10..Sludden
11..Templeton peaked at 23 ,dear oh dear.
Subs Morris Frye Johnston
Well Kev ,its a wee bit harder to think of good ones lets see your
team and see if I missed any...
Gra.
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49.450 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Wed Sep 16 1992 10:41 | 16 |
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1. Hughie Sproat
2. Stevie Nicol
3. Robert Connor
4. Willie Furpherino
5. Ian McAllister
6. Gordon Crammond
7. Brian McLaughlin
8. Duncan George
9. Alan McInally
10 John Sludden
11 Henry Templeton
Del.
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49.451 | WHAT!!! No Dobbin?????? | AYOV17::LGRACE | | Wed Sep 16 1992 12:42 | 3 |
| Re last
I think you've got it spot on Del-boy,although Derek Frye and Eric
Morris both impressed in their spell at somerset.
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49.452 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Thu Sep 17 1992 04:55 | 10 |
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What is everyone's opinion on this weeks visit to Boghead ?
I'm going to stick my neck out and take Ayr for an away win on
the fixed odds .I'll go for 1-0.With Dobbin getting the strike.
What do you all think ?
SQF HM
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49.453 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Sep 17 1992 09:44 | 17 |
| Our last to Boghead was a memorable 3-0 victory to stay in Div 1 back
in 84-85. I'll be really brave and go for the same again.
Best team since 76
Sproat
Nicol Furphy McAllister Connor
George McLaughlin Crammond
Templeton McInally Sludden
Subs, Duncan,Agnew,Christie and Frye
Kev...
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49.454 | A win at last...??? | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Thu Sep 17 1992 11:30 | 10 |
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I'll join Sal and take Ayr on the coupon for an away win (should be
reasonable odds!)
Best team since 76 - same as Kev's and Del's with Morris a candidate
up front. Reckon that team would take a bit of stopping in today's
first division.
Danny...
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49.455 | Simply | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Thu Sep 17 1992 12:01 | 20 |
| Best Team,
Sproat
Nicol Furphy McAllister Agnew
George McLaughlin Connor
Templeton Sludden McInally
Subs: Morris Frye
... Bean
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49.456 | Beat This !!! | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Thu Sep 17 1992 13:32 | 21 |
| Worst Team
Purdie
Ross Brown Auld Vincent
Ward Ahern Weir
McNaughton Larnach Mair
Worst Manager - W. McLean
Hard to beat 8-)
... Bean
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49.457 | Do you play? | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Fri Sep 18 1992 15:01 | 8 |
| Hi there,
There is a remote chance of my travelling to Ayr for work and I wondered if
you play some football after work during weekdays (not clublevel, just fun.
If yes, tell me which day and I will bring my boots along.
Looking forward etc
�JF?
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49.458 | UTD ARE BACK !!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Mon Sep 21 1992 10:59 | 7 |
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Anyone at Boghead on Saturday ? Come on Kev/Fin where is the match
report,with team and best players . Could this be our luck finaly
starting to run for us ..
SQF HM
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49.459 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Mon Sep 21 1992 13:50 | 10 |
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Steady Sal....steady...your getting over excited again.
Lets face facts, you could get 11 grunters from VLSI that could
give Dumbarton a game. It would be nice to think this was the start of
better things but when you take into account the fact that we're
crap....I very much doubt it.
Del the downer.
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49.460 | Footie not Golf ;-). | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Mon Sep 21 1992 14:16 | 17 |
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Del, How would you know what Ayr were like ? Unless you
bumped into them at Seafield golf course. heheheh.
Only kidding Del, but all I ment was that I don't think
we've had a rub of the green yet , what with 2 og's and 2
players sent off in the 1st few weeks of the season.Plus a
penalty miss and the amount of times the woodwork has
saved the enemy.No I'm not on the Buckie, I don't think
we have any chance of doing things this season but I also
thing we are better than our league position suggests.
Also just 3 points behind the squirrels , who remember
had this league won back last June 8-).
SQF HM.
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49.461 | Ayr,Ayr Super Ayr!!!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Tue Sep 22 1992 16:33 | 9 |
| The reseves recorded a 2-1 win over Rangers last night.The Ayr goals
were scored by Carse (Annbank Utd) who looks a promising player.The
Gers had a very young squad on display with only Gary McSwegan having
any first team experience however he was red carded in the second half
along with his Centre Half Steve Pressley.The Ayr team had a few
promising players on display particularly Carse,Allan,Hood,Miller and
an unknown player who came on during the second half,he played up front
and was very fast.
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49.462 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Sep 23 1992 11:03 | 15 |
| I don't want to say I told you so , but I did predict a 3-0 win for Ayr
at Boghead and amazingly it came true. Dumbarton were very poor and
look like they may struggle as the season progresses. Ayr were always
on top and never looked like surrendering the early lead which arrived
via a deep Burley cross to Super Ally who nodded a looping header back
across the goal and in at the back post. No 2 was another goal supplied
from a Burley cross into the box. The keeper came to meet it but
Traynor rose in front of him to send a back header into the net. Ayr
had several other chances before Sub Alan McTurk latched onto another
ball from Burley via Mair and he hammered a low shot past the goalie
into the far corner with 30 seconds left on the clock. Best for Ayr
were Burley, Walker, Kennedy and Graham. Mair was the crap member of
the squad. Mair and Agnew were booked.
Kev....
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49.463 | Shaw for Liverpool? | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Sep 23 1992 11:15 | 8 |
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According to today's Daily Rangers, Greg Shaw is going back to
Liverpool for another months trial. Hopefully he'll impress Souness
and Ayr will receive a large amount of cash for him which the directors
will probably squander on some new seats and a bovril stall.
Danny...
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49.464 | Ayr's answer to Lamont | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Sep 23 1992 13:34 | 9 |
| Danny,
Ayr will not receive a large cash amount for Greg Shaw as he is on
freedom of contract and we will probably only get three times his
wages. Twenty thousand at the most ! Another good piece of business
by George in turning down one hundred and seventy thousand from
St.Johnstone ???
Saddened HM ... Bean
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49.465 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Wed Sep 23 1992 15:02 | 9 |
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Steve, Are you sure Saints offered 175K for Shaw,I heard it was
80K plus a center half.I mean it sounds strange when after getting a
knock back from Burley they went to Ireland and signed Arkins for a
mere 65K....
Gra...
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49.466 | Going,going....gone! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Thu Sep 24 1992 10:43 | 9 |
| It stated in the Ayrshire Post today that Carse has been given a year
part time contract it also states,as previously mentioned that Ayr
wouldn't receive much money for Shaw as he has been a sub most of the
time and any transfer fee would probably be decided by a tribunal who
would certainly take into account first team appearances,so it would
appear that we have mucked things up again!!!!
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49.467 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Sep 28 1992 11:13 | 44 |
49.468 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Sep 28 1992 14:01 | 44 |
| St Mirren 2 - 0 Ayr United
Ayr have only themselves to blame for not taking at least a point from
this match with St Mirren. They had more chances, more pressure
and more shots on goal than an average Saints side who scored with 2 of
their 3 clear cut openings. The first half was very even and it was
quite a surprise when Farrell headed Saints into an undeserved lead on
the half-hour mark after good work by Elliot on the left wing. Ayr
replied strongly and came close with a Graham header and a Traynor shot
which Money did well to turn out for a corner. With 5 minutes of the
half remaining, Mair and Money rose to a high ball and Money landed in
a heap. Play raged on and the ball was eventually cleared to the
centre-circle where the ref blew for a bounce-up. We were then treated
to a scenario straight from a movie with first the physio, then the
manager, then the doctor and finally the Saints team all crowded round
the prostrate goalie. It seemed that he would be unable to continue and
we all thought it would only be a matter of time before a stretcher
was brought on for him. However, after about 3-4 mins he stood up and
was able to continue. Seemingly, he has a habit of feigning injury in
an attempt to break the rhythm of the opposition and always succeeds.
The second half started to boos ringing out from the Ayr support as
Money ran out like Linford Christie and proceeded to play like Gordon
Banks before again suffering an "injury" which made it impossible for
him to move faster than a handicapped sloth whenever he had the ball
yet miraculously disappeared whenever he had to move for a save. Time
after time he defied an Ayr attack which had grown stronger by the
addition of McTurk for Walker and one save from a Mair shot would have
been difficult for a fit goalie. Yet again Ayr were hit by the sucker
punch and after a great run down the left, McDowall crossed to the
backpost where Farrell nodded the ball into the path of Hewitt who
slammed it home from 7 yards. Ayr pressed strongly in the latter
stages but poor finshing let them down.
Best for Ayr were Shotton,McTurk and Kennedy
Poor for Ayr were Howard (shocking) and Robertson (lost at right
midfield)
Best for Saints. Martindale (ref)
I would predict a rather "warm" reception for a certain goalie in the
Chipboard Cup tomorrow night.
Kev....
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49.469 | St's are oot the cup. | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Tue Sep 29 1992 23:42 | 12 |
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B+Q Cup AYR UNITED 2 ST MIRREN 1
Walker (2) Charnley
A good result by the "pride of " but I would swap it for 2 points
in Paisley last Saturday.
SQF HM.
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49.470 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Sep 30 1992 10:11 | 30 |
| A good result it was, but the way it as achieved is going to give Ayr
supporters heart failure if it happens again. Ayr completely dominated
this match and shouild have won by 3 or 4 goals. Walker scored the
first after 11 minutes when he slammed home a Graham rebound off Fridge.
He then booted Lambert in the face, who was replaced by our old
favourite Chico Charnley. Chic immediately marked out Walker for the
challenge on Lambert and appeared to threaten him before the match
restarted. Saints came into the game but lacked the killer touch which
would have evened the game. Just before half-time, Walker and Manley
went for a loose ball and Manley came off worst, being unable to return
for the second half. Ayr attacked throughout the second 45 mins and
were rewarded when a great pass from Burley found Graham homing in on
goal when Lex Baillie hauled him down for a penalty. Walker elected to
take it but his weak shot was saved by the legs of Fridge. St Mirren
appeared to take heart from this and in 81 minutes, forced a free-kick
wide on the right. Charnley fired the kick straight over the wall and
past a bewildered Duncan in the Ayr goal. 3 minutes later Walker was
pulled down in the box by Fabiani but the ref waved play on ( A mistake
methinks). 2 minutes later the ball breaks into the box and Fridge and
Traynor clash, the ball breaks to Walker, 15 feet out from an open goal
and he puts it over the bar. He redeemed himself however when in the
89th minutes he pounced on a Graham flick to fire a left foot shot past
the keeper for the winner. Great scenes as the whole team mobbed Walker
behind the Somerset goal with Shotton the happiest man I have seen in
a while.
The draw for the next round will be made next Tuesday.
Kev...
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49.471 | Further update please... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Sep 30 1992 10:45 | 9 |
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Kev,
for the benefit of the part-time supporters, what was the team last
night? Going by your report it looks as if Tommy Walker is back to
his best ie missing sitters and kicking lumps out of his opponents!
Danny.
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49.472 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Sep 30 1992 14:05 | 10 |
| Team was
Duncan,Burley,McVie,Shotton,Howard,Kennedy,Robertson,Walker,Graham,
Traynor and Mair. Subs McTurk (for Mair) McLean (not used)
Best were Shotton , Kennedy , Graham and Burley.
Stirling at home on Saturday.
Kev...
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49.473 | Bring on the Albion !!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Thu Oct 01 1992 00:08 | 11 |
| Kev Thats twice Zico has had your MOM award,I take it you
are drinking in the Cherrytree at the moment.
Having seen Shotton more than the rest of us put together
do you think he is what we have been missing at the back ?
Also will you be in the Horse on Saturday for beers and
banter ?
SQF HM.......
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49.474 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Oct 01 1992 10:20 | 19 |
| I'll admit that when we let Furphy go for nothing and signed a 34 year
old from non-league football, I thought the boss had gone bananas but I
will say now that I was wrong and that Shotton is exactly what we need.
I'm not sure about Howard though. I would like to see Robertson playing
alongside Malky instead of Nigel who is a bit weak in all departments.
Shotton has the knack of reading a game and always appears in the right
place at the right time. And while he is hard , he has yet to be booked
so he is not dirty by any stretch of the imagination.
Drinking in the Cherry Tree ? Nah , too far to stagger home.
I'll make it to the pub on Sat for some pre-match "Horse-play"
C U there.
Ps the reserves won 5-0 last night at Stenhousemuir. McLean hit a hat
trick and Fraser got the other 2. Could be time for a run in the first
team for the other "Super Ally" ?
Kev....
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49.475 | Utd are back !!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Thu Oct 01 1992 23:19 | 6 |
|
Lets have all your predictions for Saturdays visit of Stirling.
I'll go for a 2-0 victory for Utd,but then again I always do.
SQF HM....
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49.476 | Hitler is alive and playing for AYR UTD | AYOV17::FHEWITSON | UNITED FOREVER | Fri Oct 02 1992 04:32 | 7 |
|
My prediction for saturday UTD 3 stirling 0,also MALKY will have FAT
willie watters in his back pocket.
fin..8-)
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49.477 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Fri Oct 02 1992 13:34 | 6 |
|
Yeah......this part timer will go for a Utd win.....
Got them on the fixed odds....
Delbert the Del.
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49.478 | Ayr V's Clydebank. | PAKORA::MILLER | I Love Krugger | Mon Oct 05 1992 16:41 | 10 |
|
Hi,
I am going down to Ayr on business in 2 weeks time and would like to
see a game (Ayr play Clydebank on the Sat). I would like to go with
some of the guys that write in here, so if any of you are going to
the game could you send me a mail at THERAJ::MILLER and I will arrange
to meet you.
Des.
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49.479 | Duncan saves a point... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Oct 05 1992 16:59 | 27 |
|
After dominating the first half, Ayr fell away a bit after the break,
allowing Stirling to equalise before the real Super Ally scored the
winner with about 10 minutes to go. He was denied the chance of a
hat-trick when the ref turned down a definite penalty as Ally was
preparing to burst the net from close range. Cammy Duncan had a
brilliant save in injury time to deny Stirling what would have been an
undeserved point.
Pass marks to Duncan, Shotton, Burley and Graham.
Burley has been complaining about the lack of goals recently. I
reckon the main problem is the lack of attack-minded players in
midfield. Graham and Walker continually knock good quality balls
down for players to run onto but guys like Kennedy, George and
Roberston are not renowed for their goal scoring records.
Danny.
Rumor/fact time,
Ally Fraser has been placed on the transfer list.
Partick Thistle are again showing an interest in Graham. Reports range
from 100k to 50k plus 2 players. We will wait and see.
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49.480 | B&Q CUP DRAW | AYOV14::BGILCHRIST | | Tue Oct 06 1992 13:50 | 4 |
|
AYR GET KILMARNOCK IN THE B&Q CUP AT RUGBY PARK
|
49.481 | there won't be many !! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Wed Oct 07 1992 12:02 | 6 |
|
Re last - Next stop the quarters then . ;-).
SQF HM.
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49.482 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Oct 09 1992 10:12 | 10 |
| According to the local rags, Stranraer have turned down a player swap
deal which would have brought Tommy Sloan back to Somerset. No news of
which players were wanted by Stranraer but the name Fraser does spring
to mind considering he has been placed on the transfer list. I would
have liked to see the original Tucker back at Somerset and playing up
front with big Ally. Who knows, it may happen yet.
Prediction for tomorrow. Dunfermline 3 - 1 Ayr
Kev...
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49.483 | Dunfermline 1 Ayr 1 | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Fri Oct 09 1992 15:05 | 8 |
|
O ye of little faith....
I'll go for at least a share of the points tomorrow, after all George
Burnley reckons we've got a chance of promotion....whoever the hell he
is. :-)
Del.
|
49.484 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Fri Oct 09 1992 17:10 | 5 |
|
Its got to be a Utd away win , about 2-0 me thinks (hopes).
SQF HM
|
49.485 | WE'LL BEAT THE BUDDIES AGAIN!!!! | MASALA::APRYCE | | Fri Oct 09 1992 18:36 | 5 |
|
I think hopes is about right Sal.
RRFC
|
49.486 | PARS 0 UTD 2 | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Sat Oct 10 1992 14:36 | 9 |
|
Allan...Yehhh sometimes the heart rules the head .Well okay all
the time then.Anyway good luck to Raith today ,remember we stuffed the
Saints last week so sometimes the "hopes" come true.
SQF HM...
|
49.487 | TOLD YOU SO !!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Sat Oct 10 1992 18:30 | 6 |
|
DUNFERMLINE 1 AYR UNITED 3
Ally
Traynor
Tucker
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49.488 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Oct 12 1992 10:00 | 44 |
| OK, I'm first to admit I got the score wrong,but if the Pars had taken
half the chances they had, they would have walked this match. Ayr
caught them cold with a goal in 90 seconds when an excellent cross by
Agnew was met at the far post by the real Super Ally who sent his
header out of the reach of the big skelly keeper. Dunfermline responded
immediately and after Grants header came off the bar, Chalmers contrived
to miss a virtual open goal. Tucker was on the receiving end of some
rough treatment from Cooper and McCathie (booked for a dreadful
challenge) and Agnew was left limping by a challenge from Cooper which
was so late it was nearly in the second half. I still stand by my
comments made after the first game when the Pars played like thugs.
Saturday was no different and 3 of their players went into the book.
Dunfermline equalised when Cunnington's corner was met by Chalmers
who volleyed home from a couple of yards. Just when it looked like
D'line would take the game by the scruff, Ayr hit them with a rather
fortunate goal. Good work by Burley ended with him laying the ball off
to Tucker who cut inside the defender and fired in a shot which hit
Chalmers and went beyond the reach of the big skelly keeper to make it
2-1 at half-time. Dunfermline started the second half in determined
fashion but some excellent defending from Shotton in particular meant
they could not capitalise on any chances. McWilliams hit the bar with a
rocket shot and Duncan saved well from a Davies 30 yarder. With 10 mins
left, Ayr hit them with the sucker punch when , after forcing 4 corners
in as many minutes, Traynor scored when Allys header came back off the
bar. The last 10 mins were a delight with Ayr camped in Dunfermline's
half leaving Malky Shotton to cheerlead an ecstatic Ayr support from
the centre-circle. All in all a good victory, but D'line will rue all
the missed chances and when they finally strike a game, someone will
suffer. Let's hope it's Kilmarnock.
Best for Ayr were Shotton, Burley and Graham.
p.s. I met a crowd of Southampton supporters at the game and later in
the pub in Ayr. They had visited Ayr for the pre-season friendly and
because they did not have a game on Saturday they decided to travel up
to see "our favourite Scottish team". They seemed almost as happy as me
when Ayr won. They are returning when Ayr play Killie next month. They
did not appear to enjoy their pre-season visit to our North Ayrshire
neighbours. In fact, one of them commented on how the town of
Kilmarnock reminded him of TV pictures from Beirut
or was it Bhagdad ?
Kev...
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49.489 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Mon Oct 12 1992 12:44 | 16 |
|
Great result on saturday. It finally looks as if our luck is changing
for the better. The return of Burley plus the signing of Shotton looks
as though it's really shored up the defence. If we hadn't lost at home
to the might of Meadowbank and Cowdenbeath we'd be right up there.
Tricky game this saturday at home to an inform Clydebank. Hopefully
though we can keep the good run going and set ourselves up for the trip
to Rugby Park on the 20th.
I might just have to fork out a fiver to go see them on saturday.
A return to the Horse is on the cards !
Del.
|
49.490 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Tue Oct 13 1992 10:39 | 11 |
|
According to the Daily Record it looks as if Paul McLean is on his way
to Stranraer. In the same paper it states that Tom Callaghan has signed
for Stirling Albion after turning down offers from AYR UTD and Sligo
Rvrs. Don't tell me we were in for that dumplin'......and whats more
embarrasing...
....we didnae get him, he turned us down !!
Delbert the Del.
|
49.491 | Who's all going to Gotham ?? | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Tue Oct 13 1992 23:39 | 15 |
|
Del, How much are the Stran going to cough up for Paul McLean or
is it another swap,with perhaps Sloan coming home..
What is everyone's predictions for the visit of the mighty
Clydebank ? I always hate playing them because they always have some
young player that runs a mock against us,and then there is always Eadie.
Well I suppose I better bite the bullet and name my score .......
AYR UNITED (pride of AYRshire) 1 BANKIES 0
SQF HM...
|
49.492 | 2 more points !!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | HONEST MEN AND BONNIE LASSIES | Sat Oct 17 1992 21:10 | 15 |
|
AYR UNITED 2 CLYDEBANK 1
Traynor
Mair
Another good 2 points for the "whites" . Acording to west sound big
Ally got taken off injured . Does anyone know if he'll make it on Tues.
Also a trialist was listed as sub ,I'm told his name is Pierce and
plays with Coventry City ..Anyone know anything about this guy .
Match repert ASAP,,Kev.
SQF HM..
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49.493 | shaggy | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Sun Oct 18 1992 10:47 | 11 |
| I thought his name was Cruise. He only played for ten minutes.
Has anyone heard what is happening to Shaggy.
He scored two and made the other in a three - one victory (for the
reserves obviously).
... Bean
|
49.494 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Oct 19 1992 11:13 | 25 |
| Ayr 2-1 Clydebank
A well deserved victory made it 5 out 6 since Burley started playing
again. Malky Shotton was outstanding in a defence that was seldom
troubled by Bankies. Ayr showed some excellent passing moves and
flowing football and the only surprise was it took 45 mins to score.
The goal came a minute after Duncan made a point blank stop from Eadie.
Ayr rushed upfield and won a corner which was cleared as far as Traynor
who slammed it home via a helpful dummy from big Ally. An ideal time to
score. 4 minutes into the second half, Burley and Roberston finished
some neat passing with a low hard cross which sub Mair met 10 yards out
to send a shot past Woods in the Bankies goal. 2-0 and AYr were
cruising. They shot themselves in the foot however when on Bankies next
attack, Burley, Duncan, Robertson and Eadie all went for a high ball at
the back post and it ended up nestling in the corner of the net after
Robertson's attempted clearance beat Cammy. The papers somehow gave the
goal to Flannigan who was nowhere near at the time. Ayr continued to
attack but no further goals arrived. Big Ally went off injured 10 mins
from the end to let the Trialist (Cruise ?) on. I don't know where he
is meant to play but he appeared at home in a wide right midfield
position. McLean it appears, has joined Stranraer.
Best for Ayr were Shotton and Burley (again)
Kev...
|
49.495 | 3-1 to Killie | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Oct 19 1992 12:19 | 17 |
|
Any predictions for tomorrow night's game against Killie?
We seem to be a lot tighter at the back since the arrival of Shotton
and the return of Burley but I reckon we could struggle in midfield
tomorrow, especially as Kennedy won't be man-marking Burns due to
injury. I think Traynor is a definite weak link in the middle and
would therefore like to see McTurk dropped and someone else added in the
middle, possibly Mair or even McVie.
The lack of a good squad could prove to be our downfall, especially
as Graham, George and Howard are carrying knocks from Saturday's game.
Hopefull of winning but not confident.
Danny.
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49.496 | When Shotton walked up to lift the Milk Cup | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Mon Oct 19 1992 14:12 | 4 |
| Is this Malcolm Shotton captain of the great/famous Oxford Utd team of
the mid 'eighties, I can't believe he is still going ???
Brian.
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49.497 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Mon Oct 19 1992 14:40 | 19 |
|
Yeah.....I'm like you Dan...more hopeful than confident.
Killie looked good on Saturday from the tv clips I saw and by all
accounts should have won the game. In saying that however, Raith were
not at full strength having had 2 players sent off the week before.
We're playing at our best for sometime but picked up injuries on
Saturday. Graham, George and Howard all took knocks. We have a chance
if we're at full strength, if not, we'll find it hard going.
As Sal keeps saying...were overdue a victory at Rugby Park. I'd
be happier if it was on the 14th of Nov rather than tomorrow night.
Del.
ps. re .496 Yes...and playing very well by all accounts.
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49.498 | Its not over till its over 8-( | MASALA::GMCDONALD | DISHONEST MEN AND UGLY LASSIES | Wed Oct 21 1992 09:15 | 26 |
|
Kilmarnock 1 Ayr United 0
McCluskey
Not a great night for Ayr with very few real chances created Killie
on the other hand played very well ,thier passing game would be a joy
to watch if it wasn't being played against your own team.
Killie totaly dominated the game from start to finish with Ayr's
only threats coming from fast breaks.Which were few and far between.
Ayr's defence played well with Shotton and Duncan outstanding, I hate
to think what might have happend if Purdie and Auld had been playing.
The real problem with our team is the same as its ever been Walker and
McTurk are being carried and the midfield cant support the forwards
during a break.All in all not a bad desplay by United, they lack a bit
of punch up front and when Ally doesn't play the team don't play.As for
Killie they looked a very slick unit who with a bit of luck could go
all the way in the Cup .
I can't help feeling that when we meet them again that Burns will
be marked a lot more tightly as he pulls the strings for an ordinary
Killie front line.
SQF HM.
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49.499 | Egg on the face time!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Wed Oct 21 1992 09:19 | 6 |
| Kilmarnock 1 Ayr United 0
Well lads what can I say!! that must go down as one of the worst
display's ever by an Ayr team,we were very lucky to leave with a one
goal defeat.Cammy Duncan must get a triple bonus for his display last
night and the rest should be fined for their displays.As for Ally
Fraser,free him as he just isn't interested.
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49.500 | What a nightmare... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Oct 21 1992 09:19 | 22 |
|
An utterly disgracefull performance from Ayr last night saw them
loose 1-0 to Killie at Rugby Park. In all honesty, Killie should have
been 3 or 4 up at half-time and a couple more clear by full-time. They
won every 50-50 ball and generally had total control of the game. Ayr
couldn't string 2 passes together and only threatend a couple of times
from corner kicks.
The really depressing part of it all, is that last nights team, with
the exception of the waste of space Ally Fraser had won 5 of the last 6
games and should have been confident about going to Rugby Park and
winning but there seemed a lack of commitment and a definite shortage
of basic footballing skills last night.
The next 4 weeks will be crucial to Ayr's season. Matches against
Morton, Hamilton, Raith and Kilmarnock will make or break the season.
Pass marks last night to Duncan (MOM), Shotton and Graham. The rest
were a joke.
Danny.
|
49.501 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Fri Oct 23 1992 12:37 | 5 |
|
Any predictions for the trip to Greenock on Saturday ?
I'll go for a score draw 1-1....
|
49.502 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Oct 23 1992 12:52 | 5 |
| Ayr can't play as badly 2 games in a row so I predict a score draw..
and typically pi$$ing wet Greenock weather to go with it.
Kev...
|
49.503 | OH MY GAWD | AYOV17::FHEWITSON | | Fri Oct 23 1992 13:05 | 6 |
| I'll put my neck on the line and go for an utd victory 1-0
Paul mclean has signed for stranraer.
fin.
|
49.504 | :::; | KIRKTN::DMILNE | STOP THAT ITS NO NATURAL | Fri Oct 23 1992 13:34 | 1 |
| I;ll take Morton to win 3-0.....
|
49.505 | 3-0 my as@ | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Fri Oct 23 1992 14:31 | 5 |
|
Davie ...The last time you got a score right the sun shone in Bo'ness
for a full day..
SQF HM..
|
49.506 | "Sun always shines in Boness" | KIRKTN::DMILNE | STOP THAT ITS NO NATURAL | Fri Oct 23 1992 15:17 | 3 |
| How do you explain the palm trees then......
Mr brown...
|
49.507 | Sun in the 'Ness it is 8-( | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Sat Oct 24 1992 18:05 | 9 |
|
GREENOCK MORTON 2 AYR UNITED 1
Raferty 30 Shotton 10
Lillie 89
Another bad point lost..
SQF HM..
|
49.508 | I wish I had some holidays :-( | PAKORA::CPATRICK | it never happens to us...!!!! | Sat Oct 24 1992 20:39 | 11 |
| re-1
SQF HM....
do you not mean "another 2 points lost" ????
SQF Jambo
|
49.509 | only eighth now 8-).. | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Sun Oct 25 1992 09:04 | 7 |
|
Sid, With the score at 1-1 with 2 mins to go I thought we were
looking good for a point...
Good the result for the "big" team in the capital, 17 on the
trot eh....
SQF HM..
|
49.510 | "We won 3-2,that 1 in a row" | KIRKTN::DMILNE | STOP THAT ITS NO NATURAL | Sun Oct 25 1992 16:49 | 4 |
| GOD my sunburn is killing me to-day ????
Julie......
|
49.511 | Boris For The Cup | PAKORA::SWRIGHT | Boris 'de' Ness | Mon Oct 26 1992 09:57 | 9 |
| Dav,
When I passed through the Ness this morning I saw a guy on the Beach
Hiring out sun loungers, Who said the Sun never shines in the Ness..!!!
I bet they don't have a Steam train in Ayr..!!!
Senga.
|
49.512 | Score please!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Tue Oct 27 1992 09:08 | 2 |
| Does anyone know the result of the reserve match against Killie from
last night?
|
49.513 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Oct 28 1992 08:46 | 6 |
| 2-2
Killie twice came back to snatch a draw. Carse and Burke scored for
Ayr.
Kev...
|
49.514 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Fri Oct 30 1992 01:23 | 13 |
|
Whats all this about Burley signing not one but two players, both
it seems are midfielders,can anyone confirm ?
Also can anyone tell me if Liverpool have signed Shaw or will he
be back with us for the rest of the season ?
Also does anyone think its worthwhile giving Carse a real run in
the 1st team and booting Walker out the pool.
Prediction for the visit of Hamilton ,,,3-0 to the giants.
SQF Hm...
|
49.515 | All Change!!!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Fri Oct 30 1992 13:46 | 12 |
| Sal,apparently Liverpool want Shaw back down again as they haven't made
their minds up yet,how much time do they want? I think they have had
ample time to assess him and to make a decision on whether to sign him
or not.Burley states that he hopes Shaw signs on again as he is part of
his plans,if this happened then somebody would have to take a back seat
probably McTurk and there would be even less chance of Carse coming
into the team.On the signing front,we have now completed the signing of
two players,I don't know a lot about them so we will have to wait and
see how they perform.Burley has now just about cleaned out the squad
from the McLeod era(sorry for mentioning that lads!!!).
Lawrence
|
49.516 | No report last week ,,KEV !! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Sat Oct 31 1992 01:46 | 6 |
|
The Daily Record states today that Ayr's new signing "Burke" will
make his debut today against the Accies.It doesn't say whether Crews
will share the honour with him . 8-)..
|
49.517 | No-score bore... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Sat Oct 31 1992 18:20 | 16 |
|
A very poor game played in poor conditions watched by a poor and sad
crowd. Ayr could have played all night without scoring. Accies had the
better chances but some good goalkeeping from Cammy kept the score
sheet blank.
Burke made his debut and did absolutely nothing before being carried
off on a stretcher just before half-time. Replaced by Carse. Duncan
George was carrying an injury and didn't come out after the break,
replaced by our other new signing, Cruise. He showed some good touches
and could be a good signing once he settles in.
MOM - Cammy Duncan for a solid all-round performance.
Danny.
|
49.518 | | MASALA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Sat Oct 31 1992 20:47 | 5 |
|
Danny,,, Spot on ,we were awfull.I thought Burley was our best player
with Cammy and Shotton close behind ,the rest were mince.Still at least
we got a point for a change....
|
49.519 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Nov 02 1992 09:09 | 25 |
| Paul Burke has a hairline fracture of his leg (or possibly ankle) and
will be out for a while. I think you're being hard on him saying he did
nothing Danny, the guy tried hard but was out of touch with the way the
team play. Burley and he will have to get some sort of understanding
before he realises his potential. Barry Crews however showed some
excellent touches for an 18 year old. He rushed the only chance he had
and fluffed it 18 feet wide but overall he had a reasonable
performance. Carse was played out of position as a right midfielder and
we have yet to see the best of him. If we have a fit squad to choose
from, I'd like to see Carse playing off Graham who could provide the
knockdowns for him. Ferguson had 2 excellent saves , one in each half
which kept Accies in it and over the piece a draw was probably correct.
One final word on the match officials. It is not often I praise them
but the ref was very good and caught Accies at every one of their
sneaky cheating exploits. The best thing he did was book that old thug
Harris although he should have been booked before the challenge on
Agnew.
Only 2 points worse than this position last year and we called it a
good start !
Raith's unbeaten run to end at Somerset next week. You heard it here
first !
Kev...
|
49.520 | On the rack... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Nov 02 1992 15:49 | 16 |
|
Kev, Burke has ligament damage to his ankle so he'll probably be out
for a lengthy period.
We're now beginning to suffer from lack of depth and talent of a first
team squad. Burley only had 14 players to choose from on Saturday. With
Burke and George both injured, he'll be struggling to pick a team to
try and defeat Raith this week. I'd like to think Ayr can be the first
team to beat Raith this season, but although I think we're pretty solid
at the back, Raith could over-run us in midfield and give us a bit of a
doing. Traynor and Robertson were crap on Saturday but then again, they
were signed as full-backs and not midfielders.
Danny.
|
49.521 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Mon Nov 02 1992 17:23 | 11 |
|
re. last
< We're now beginning to suffer from lack of depth and talent of a first >
< team squad. >
I beg your pud Dan......we've been suffering from this for as long as
I can rememeber !!!
Delbert the part timer.
|
49.522 | Has the chairman brought his boots | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Mon Nov 02 1992 23:26 | 15 |
|
Dan/Kev I know Burke will be out for some time as will Kennedy but
what is the position with George ? Will he make it on
Saturday for the Raith game ? If he doesn't and Mair is in
the the same boat that will leave us with a real pick and
mix midfield of Robertson (right back) Traynor (right back)
Crews (right winger) and McTurk (striker).With Carse on the
bench on his own.
I think Kev is right ,I fancy us to upset the Raith machine
but we will need some luck with our injuries if we are to do
the buisness..
|
49.523 | Raith unbeaten | KIRKTN::APRYCE | | Tue Nov 03 1992 00:55 | 6 |
|
I take Raith to beat Ayr 3-1 with Dazzer scoring two.We will be too
strong for a weakened Ayr side and win with some style.
SQF RRFC
|
49.524 | Now where to hide !!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Tue Nov 03 1992 03:53 | 9 |
|
Al, Has that American sun baked your brain its Ayr that
your coming to play not those soft touches from up the road,you'll get the
same treatment that those Pars got ....a drilling ;-)
SQF HM..
|
49.525 | Stairway to heaven | KIRKTN::APRYCE | | Tue Nov 03 1992 04:14 | 12 |
|
The Pars are easy meat right now,even my granny could beat them and
she died a good few years ago.Raith have hit the winning trail
again after a wee sticky patch,I know it will be a hard game but
you know us Fifers ,we'll not give anything away if we can help it.
(We'll maybe sell it if the price is right),I still think Raith
will win. :-):-)
SQF RRFC
|
49.526 | " Who's on my terminal" | KURMA::DMILNE | STOP THAT ITS NO NATURAL | Tue Nov 03 1992 05:37 | 7 |
| Sal,
When are you going to stop writing crazy stories of woe and torment
and get down to admiting that your team are'nt even in the same
league as the real men up the road..
Raith to win by the odd goal in 9........
|
49.527 | TOFFEE !!!!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Tue Nov 03 1992 20:53 | 8 |
| Dav and McCall( who is currently working you from the back)
Killie are indeed in the same league as us .I know this
because I remember Ayr stuffing them 2-0 in our easiest game of the
season. 8-))))))))))))))
SQF HM ....
|
49.528 | the buck stops here !!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Mon Nov 09 1992 13:34 | 11 |
| Lads, Derby day will soon be on us again what are your thoughts on
the trip up the A77 to play our little cousins ??
Will it be a repeat of the B+Q match or will we take the
squirrels out like a rotten tooth ??
Will Del make his 2nd match of the season ?
Will Lawrance be able to buy his first round of the season ?
SQF HM..
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49.529 | mine's a shandy!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Mon Nov 09 1992 13:44 | 7 |
| re last
Sal,I will be there on saturday and in the Away end with the United
faithful not like somebody I know who went into the home end with his
squirrel cronies at the B+Q Cup game :-)
Cheers
Lawrence
P.S Okay the first round will be on me!!!!
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49.530 | "Time to dance" | KIRKTN::DMILNE | STOP THAT ITS NO NATURAL | Mon Nov 09 1992 14:30 | 12 |
|
Sally,
Ma moneys on the big boys from Killie stuffin yous by at least 3.
Chester..........
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49.531 | | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | UNITED | Mon Nov 09 1992 14:36 | 6 |
| Chester/Dav fae the Ness.
You don't have any money cos McCall has nabbed
all your OT .;-)........
SQF HM/ROSE .....
|
49.532 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Tue Nov 10 1992 11:47 | 13 |
|
Salbert,
Don't think I'll be there. Went to the Raith game on Saturday and if
that mob are top of the league God help the rest of us. Crap game with
two crap teams...I'll nooooooo be back. Looks like were struggling to
get a fit 11 for the game in baghdad...still, it should be good enough to
get at least a point from the vermin.
Delbert.
ps. looks like Shotton will have to find someone else to put in his back
pocket after Williamson's sending off at Parland.
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49.533 | It's a long way to the top ten!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Mon Nov 16 1992 08:47 | 24 |
| What is happening to United? Haven't they got the bottle for the Derby
games? That is twice in a few weeks I have travelled to Baghdad to see
them being humilitated by Killie,yet it seems that Killie don't seem to
strike that kind of form against other teams.I have now seen Raith,
St Mirren,Morton and Dunfermline,and none of them have destroyed us the
way killie have in the past two derby matches.It is hard to accept such
a poor performance on saturday especially after the way we played
against Raith last week in a game we should have won.I have always been
a supporter of Burley but I just couldn't understand his team selection
against Killie,firstly Robertson is clearly struggling in midfield,he
was outstanding at right back when he joined us,so I thought it would
have made sense to put him back into defence instead of putting Traynor
back,also we rushed to sign McGuigan for saturday's game and then put
him on the bench and played Mair who has been injured on and off for
weeks and hasn't even been playing reserve football.It is got to be
asked why did we wait so long before introducing Carse,this man
deserved a game before Mair and even Crews.We simply made too many
changes from the previous week and we never looked like doing anything.
We are badly needing an injection of money quickly as we can't survive
on buying free transfers or juniors,the present board have no money,and
I have it in good authority that Loudon wants out of Ayr but nobody is
interested in buying into the club so it looks like gloomy times ahead.
one of the many disillusioned
Lawrence
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49.534 | "There's only one big team in Ayrshire" | KIRKTN::DMILNE | | Mon Nov 16 1992 23:55 | 14 |
| SQF humble man....
I hate to say it but I was right......
By all accounts Ayr were lucky to get away with a three nil drubbing...
Dav Bu's
ps.. The Bu's have stated that they are lookin for some" easy" games
before we play in the junior cup,so tell George to sit by the phone....
|
49.535 | been here before ,me thinks. | MASALA::GMCDONALD | | Tue Nov 17 1992 05:47 | 13 |
|
Dav, Well Dav you did warn me indeed,perhaps I should have listened
to you . "Humble Man" Not for a minuite ,every dog has his day and last
Saturday was most definetly not ours 8-( but we live to fight another
day.
As for the 'Ness looking for easy games well your in a league
full of them,bar the mighty"Rose" that is .
SQF HM ( FOR EVER AND EVER)
Ps Well done to the Killie played well and deserved the points .
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49.536 | Who's got the answers...? | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Nov 18 1992 16:41 | 17 |
|
The sad thing about Saturdays drubbing was that Killie did not look
particularly good, Ayr were simply shocking.
Why did Burley sign Robertson, a good and proven full-back, yet
continue to play him in midfield? Why sign McQuigan(sp), an experienced
player, but leave him on the bench in favour of a largely untried
McVie? Why play Mair who has done very little since he came to Somerset
and who's obviously not 100% fit? Why play Traynor at all, he's been
crap for months now.
It's hard having a limited pool of players and no cash to spent.
Burley is doing the best he can with a bad lot but he's made one or
two silly mistakes in team selections (just my opinion of course).
Danny.
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49.537 | Another one bites the dust. | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Fri Nov 20 1992 10:07 | 7 |
|
Ally Fraser has joined the Ayr reserve team at Stranraer. Given
the number of ex-Ayr players down there, they must be looking good
for one of the promotion spots this season.
Danny.
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49.538 | AYR 5 SONS 3 | MASALA::GMCDONALD | | Mon Nov 23 1992 07:54 | 7 |
| Kev/Dan
What about a match report from Saturdays game for all us
ex pats ??
SQF HM..
|
49.539 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Nov 23 1992 09:06 | 42 |
| Ayr United 5 Dumbarton 3
A lively and entertaining match (if you like goalkeeping errors) played
in horrendous conditions. Ayr swept Dumbarton away in the early stages
with an attacking display which brought 2 goals in the first 15 mins.
After about 6 mins Ayr had won 3 or 4 corners and on the last John
Traynor dived full length at the back post to send a header in off the
bar. Ayr continued to attack and scored again when Robertson pounced on
a rebound off the keeper from a Walker shot to blast home from 10
yards. He looked really chuffed that he had managed to pop one into the
opponents net for a change. Ayr dropped a gear rather than killing off
the sons and as a result let them back into the game when Gibson rose
unchallenged to send a glancing header in off the back post. Cammy
stood and watched both the cross and the header and appeared rooted to
the spot. Second half brought another whirlwind start when for about
the 20th time in the match, Paul Martin fouled big Ally and the ref
pointed to the spot. Gordon Mair made no mistake with a crisply struck
shot into the keepers left hand corner of the net. Again Ayr let them
back into the game with another "Missing In ACtion" performance at a
corner when Mooney touched home from 3 yards with Cammy the Windmill
blaming everyone bar himself. Bobby McConville was then ordered off for
a terrible challenge on McGuigan in 59 mins. In 68 mins it was 4-2 with
the best goal of the game. A corner from McGuigan was cleared as far as
Mair on the edge of the box and he hammered a shot over the advancing
defence and in to the postage stamp corner for a real cracker. Yet
again the match see-sawed when after another corner which Cammy got
nowhere near, the ball struck an Ayr defender on the line and a penalty
was awarded. Mooney made no mistake , sending Duncan the wrong way. 4-3
Cammy then redeemed himself with a wonderful fingertip save in the last
minute under severe pressure. The ball was cleared to McVie and he
started the move which culminated in a cross from McGuigan which the
keeper fumbled under pressure from Ally and the ball broke to Mair 10
yards out and he slammed it home to complete the scoring.
Shotton and Duncan, usually the two players which keep Ayr in the game
had poor performances which cost Ayr 3 goals. Howard and McVie didn't
help. Walker had another stinker and Burley only lasted 35 minutes
before his hamstring went again.
Best for Ayr were Mair,Big Ally, Robertson and McGuigan.
Kev....
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49.540 | WARRIORS CLUB!!!!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | | Mon Nov 23 1992 09:35 | 8 |
| Kev/Fin
Are you going to the Stirling match at Warrior land next
Tuesday if so I could meet you in the club for a pre match beer ?
SQF HM..
|
49.541 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Nov 23 1992 11:10 | 7 |
| Sal,
What game is this ?
I thought the midweek game against stirling was on Jan 26th at
Somerset (according to the fixture list anyway).
Kev...
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49.542 | 1st-Dec-1992 | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Nov 23 1992 11:25 | 9 |
|
Kev,
according to the fixture list, Ayr are away to Stirling on the
1st December which is a week on Tuesday. I don't think I'll be one
of the many thousands travelling that night!!
Danny.
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49.543 | | KURMA::GMCDONALD | | Mon Nov 23 1992 13:57 | 7 |
| Kev/Dan,
Do any of you have any info on Paul McGovern ex Partick and
Hibs ,who was on the bench in the Dumbarton game .According to the Sun
Burley is ready to sign him..
SQF HM..
|
49.544 | | PAKORA::TDOLAN | | Mon Nov 23 1992 15:57 | 10 |
|
Sal,
This Paul McGovern wouldn`t happen to be about
21 years old would he ?????
Tam.....
|
49.545 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Nov 23 1992 16:12 | 6 |
| I have it on good authority, (a thistle fan) that he is quite highly
thought of but is finding it difficult to break into the first team.
i don't expect Lambie to be too difficult to deal with.
Kev...
|
49.546 | Dae yi ken him Tam.. | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Mon Nov 23 1992 16:21 | 3 |
| Tam, Aye,I think he is around that age,spill the beans Tam.
Sal.
|
49.547 | Here A Bit !! 8-) | PAKORA::TDOLAN | | Mon Nov 23 1992 17:30 | 15 |
|
Sal,
I`ve played against him, maybe 8 or 9 times at under 18
level, when he was with Hutchi Vale & Hibs.
He`s a very sound defender, fit, fast,not bad in the air
and he reads the game very well. His only bad point is that
he tends to try and be too flash at times and seems to get
caught out quite a bit, but, if the Ayr Utd management can
get him to keep his mind on his game, he will do a good job
for you`s and could possibly be one to watch for in the future.
Tam.....
|
49.548 | LOUDON MUST GO..... | MASALA::GMCDONALD | | Wed Nov 25 1992 09:53 | 9 |
|
Anyone got any news on the rumoured return of Bill Barr to the
board.Is there also any truth in the rumour that Loudon will be gone by
Xmas.
SQF HM..
|
49.549 | THE PRODIGAL SON RETURNS | AYOV17::FHEWITSON | AYR AYR SUPER AYR | Thu Nov 26 1992 02:52 | 12 |
|
The POST quoted last night that Shaggy will not be signing for
liverpool after all,But will he agree terms with GB and sign a contract
with us, I hope so .
the beath on saturday i'll go for 2-0 victory
cheers fin...
|
49.550 | Burley must stay... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Fri Dec 04 1992 08:28 | 19 |
|
News today that the wise men on the board at Somerset are quite
prepared to let George Burley move to another job if one becomes
available. Burley was interviewed last month for the Cambridge Utd
job but was unsuccessful. The report in the Daily Record also stated
that Burley was under pressure following recent results and that the
fans also wanted him to go.
I don't think Burley should be under any pressure at all, the team
have lost 2 games at home to Meadowbank and Cowdenbeath. If they had
won these games they would be challenging for 2nd spot just now. There
are a few empty-heads in the terracing who would rather return to the
days of Ally McLeod and division 2 football. Burley has done a lot for
Ayr United on and off the field with very limited resources. He's had
to reduce the number of full-time players to save cash and try and
build a team with free-transfers and young players.
Danny
|
49.551 | What no money!!!!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Fri Dec 04 1992 12:21 | 16 |
| Re last
I read the story in the Daily Record regarding Burley's
departure,however the SUN carries a story saying the exact opposite.
Burley is quoted in the SUN as saying that he was down south on family
business and he will remain at Ayr until his contact expires at the end
of the season at least but would hope to be at Ayr for years to come.It
just goes to show how much crap is spoken in the press here we have to
papers printing conflicting stories.I am a big fan of Burley's and
those fans who supposedly shouted for his sacking must have really
short memories.I reckon we can't judge Burley until he has money to
work with,he has done well with no money.Jim Fleeting had a fortune at
his disposal but squandered most of it,I am confident that if Burley
had been given the same kind of money that we would be playing Premier
League football.
'L'
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49.552 | THE BOARD MUST GO | AYOV17::FHEWITSON | AYR AYR SUPER AYR | Fri Dec 04 1992 14:47 | 12 |
| L,
Hear hear lawrence,GB has done a good job since he took over utd,he's
got the youth policy started up and is going well.
I think some of the money problems started when "AULD SENILE McLEOD"
gave some duffers fulltime contracts who most of are down at stranraer
now (all good 2nd div players )and the rest are playing JUNIOR for
other teams
any predictions for the buddies tomorrow i'll go for a 1-0 victory
cheers fin
|
49.553 | LOUDON OUT !!!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Fri Dec 04 1992 19:43 | 18 |
|
Re last 3.. I agree with all the coments here,it would be a
disaster if Burley was allowed to leave ,but the fact of the matter is
if he wants to go then they can't really stop him.I think he would have
been in foe the Cambridge job, and who can blame him, its a much biggar
club than ours and last year it reached the play offs ,( I think).
Also add to this the fact that Burley has never sold
his house down south and that his wife is from that area and you can
see why this story may hold water.
This should be taken as a warning to the Ayr
board,for if he left we would be in real trouble.Every effort should be
made to find this man funds to run a serious pool of players with a
view to promotion.
SQF HM..
|
49.554 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Dec 07 1992 09:24 | 52 |
| Ayr United 2 - 0 St Mirren
This game started with a storm outside the ground and ended up with one
inside. For the second time this season, Ayr got the better of Saints
with a battling second half performance when they were facing the teeth
of a gale-force wind. Saints started the game as if they would sweep
Ayr aside easily and it took two excellent stops in the first 3 minutes
by Super Cammy to keep Ayr in the game. Ayr came more into the game and
forced a couple of goal-line clearances and some fine saves from Money.
The pressure eventually told when Ally Graham rose to a Burley free
kick and headed beyond Money's reach in the 45th minute. He promptly
dropped his shorts to his knees and revealed the largest pair of white
y-fronts I have ever seen to the Somerset End. He was booked for this.
He later explained to reporters that a certain section of the crowd
were giving him stick and he was "replying" to them.
Second half started a the first with Saints harnessing a strong wind
for the first ten minutes and looking likely to equalise although never
actually getting a shot on target. Again Ayr came into it and almost
scored when Burley smashed a volley inches over from a corner. They
controlled the remainder of the game however and had several chances to
increase their lead before the game exploded in the 82nd minute.
Lambert went in very late on Gordon Mair and there was a loud crack
which initially was thought to be a broken leg. Mair's right shin-guard
had in fact split in two with the force of the tackle and Lambert was
ordered off. He even had the cheek to complain and he had already been
booked. Barry Lavety , Saints star striker was next to go. He had
arrived after 60 minutes or so and his first tackle was a foul on
Shotton which the Messiah was less than impressed with and earned the
Fat One a word in his shell-like from the ref. He obviously did not
heed this warning as from the free-kick for the Lambert incident the
ball was played to Mair on the edge of the box and Lavety promptly
assaulted him. He departed , not surprisingly. The Saints supporters
were becoming rather irate and a shower of missiles arrived on the
pitch, aimed mainly at Mair and Graham. 2 minutes later and the game
was over as a contest when Walker blasted home at the second attempt
from close range. CHic Charnley , that darling of the Somerset fans
saved the best to last when he was sent off in the last minute for an
off the ball incident. It was later alleged in the press that he spat
on Duncan George. Trust Chico to make my day complete. St Mirren are
rapidly turning into a team like Airdrie, basically thugs with a
support to match. They got what they deserved for their disgraceful
performance. No team has finished a game with 8 men at Somerset in my
memory (although Killie did against Ayr at Rugby Park in 1988) and the
SFA must surely do something to combat the Paisley Hooligans, and their
supporters.
We now have 20 points from 20 games. The same as this point last year.
Not such a bad season after all.
Kev...
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49.555 | | AYOU48::JHILL | | Mon Dec 07 1992 15:26 | 10 |
|
Good point about our points tally Kev and if we win tomorrow night
we'll only be 6 points off a promotion place. A nice wee run of results
over the next 4-5 weeks would certainly put a different face on things
down Somerset way.
Steep.
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49.556 | into the next round | AYOV17::FHEWITSON | AYR AYR SUPER AYR | Tue Dec 08 1992 07:43 | 9 |
|
Dunfermline (AWAY) scottish cup 3rd rnd. jan 9th
cowdenbeath tonight i'll go for 2-1 to utd
fin...
|
49.557 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Dec 09 1992 09:25 | 18 |
|
Cowdenbeath 2 - 2 Ayr United
(Graham 14, Traynor 36)
No match report as I missed my first match in about a year, however the
papers said Graham capitalised on a goalkeeping error and Traynor
scored from a Mair cross. Cowden came back to equalise twice. Thats 3
points we've given to them this season and they only have 5 !
Dunfermline at home on Saturday, another set of thugs who are trying to
kick their way out of division 1. Look out for Neale Cooper kicking
anything above grass level as usual and Roddy Grant moaning the face of
whatever unlucky ref we get.
1-1 draw.
Kev...
|
49.558 | | BUSSTP::DREES | Relegation....?? | Wed Dec 09 1992 16:24 | 10 |
|
When you consider we dropped a total of 6 pts to Cowdenbeath,
Meadowbank and Stirling it shows we've done not too badly against the
teams above us. If we had been able to take 4 of those 6 points we'd
be joint 3rd !
Just shows what a crap standard of football is being played in the 1st
division !
Del.
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49.559 | LOUDON MUST GO !!!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | I LOVE THE JAMBO'S | Thu Dec 10 1992 08:33 | 33 |
|
KEV, I was at Cowden on Tues, it was a point given away.We had
total control on the game and chucked the point away with two terrible
defencive errors.The first with the score at 1-0 thanks to Walker diving
in on the keeper and the ball breaking to Graham who scored from a
yard,,Howard left his man in the box after Shotton and Burley got done
at the near post,the 2nd was Burley's fault he also left his man to
head clear but missed timed his header and the ball dropped to the
striker who scored past Cammy with some ease.Traynor scored our 2nd,it
was the best goal we've scored all season,we actually played some
football during the build up.Cammy through out to Agnew who passed 30
yards to Mair who crossed to the edge of the box Traynor brought it
down with one pin and bagged it with the other,right in the top corner.
It was a point dropped but I suppose 6 out of 8 is not bad ,Pars
next ,that should be a toughie..
Cammy 5/10 little to do bar pick them out.
Burley 7/10 one error .
Agnew 7/10 looks a lot better .
Shotton 9/10 best 'half in the league by a mile.
Howard 5/10 suspect
George 5/10 the usuall .
Robertson 6/10 not a bad game but scored the venture to
far .
Mair 7/10 a lot better,but that wouldn't be hard .
Traynor 7/10 " " " " " " "
Walker 8/10 Had 3 shots cleared of the line in last min.
Graham 6/10 scored 1 missed 3 the usuall.
subs McGuigan 4/10 played out of position
Carse not used..
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49.560 | On a roll...... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Dec 14 1992 18:30 | 20 |
|
Another win on Saturday against promotion hopefuls Dunfermline. After
stuffing St. Mirren last week, Ayr have forced themselves into the
fringes of the promotion race. The way Raith are going just now, it's
all about 2nd place for the likes of Killie, Dunfermline, St. Mirren,
Hamilton and hopefully ourselves, although we've probably got the
weakest squad amongst those mentioned. However, as Burley said on
Saturday, there's not much between most of the teams involved in the
battle at the top. A win against Meadowbank on Saturday could see Ayr
climb a couple of places in the league. We're then away to Raith on
Boxing day before the usual stuffing of Killie on the 2nd of January
(NOT!!!)
According to today's rags, McQuigan (sp) has been released by Ayr and
somebody Robertson has been signed on a part-time contract from the
mighty Stirling Albion. Let's hope he's another good freebie picked up
by Burley.
Danny.
|
49.561 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Dec 16 1992 09:09 | 18 |
| "somebody Robertson"
Don't tell me you can't remember the most annoying wee nyaff ever to
play at Somerset ? He played midfield for SA and is about 4 foot 11
when he jumps, and he's 32 ! Another waste of money.
I see that ambassador to the game of football , namely James " Chic "
Charnley has finally been shown the door from Love Street. He has
suffered a fate usually reserved for managers, the boot. How sad .
p.s. Watch out for Alex Totten taking over at East End Park as I can't
see Jocky Scott and Gordon Wallace lasting into the New Year the way
they are going. Saturday's Pars performance was the worst I have seen
since .......well...... the last time we played them. Hee Hee Hee.
Gloat On !
Kev...
|
49.562 | | BUSSTP::DREES | Relegation....?? | Wed Dec 16 1992 12:03 | 14 |
|
Hopefully this "wee nyaff" won't be "Another waste of money", Kev. All
Burley's signings have done a job even if some of them were just for a
short period of time ie. McLean,Auld. We have been lacking badly in
midfield all season, so any addition is welcome. I'm not quite as
confident as Dan,when he says were back on the fringes of promotion,but
another 2pts on Saturday will certainly boost the confidence for the 2
tough games after that. Lets not get carried away just because we
haven't lost in 5 games....we are a very poor side. Although I've been
to only a handfull of games this season it is very noticable that the
standard is not as good as previous seasons. How else could you explain
Killie being in 2nd place !
|
49.563 | Surely not...? | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Dec 16 1992 15:47 | 8 |
|
Kev, I presume that's the wee nyaff that was constantly having a go
at Duncan George and always came off second best. If it is, I can't
see him improving on what we've already got.
Danny.
|
49.564 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Dec 17 1992 08:49 | 14 |
| one and the same Danny,
They used to be teammates at Annfield, but they did not appear to be
mates on the park. According to Burley he has not signed him purely as
a squad player and he will be considered on his own merits. I take it
that means we will not be seeing him in the first team.;-)
The ghost-like atmosphere of the Commonwealth Stadium beckons this
weekend. Ayr need to win to continue the push up the table and since
they play Raith,Killie,Dunfermline,Hamilton and Morton after that, it
could be our only points for a while. I'll go for 2-1 to Ayr. Super AG
to continue his run and a rare goal from "Psycho Malky Shotton".
Kev...
|
49.565 | | BUSSTP::DREES | Relegation....?? | Sun Dec 20 1992 08:51 | 12 |
|
Meadowbank 1 Ayr 0
Well thats 4pts out of 4 lost to Meadowbank as well as 3pts out of 4
lost to Cowdenbeath !!
Sad really. We seem to be able to take points off the better sides but
we can't beat the poorer sides. A win yesterday would have put us in
joint 4th place.
Del.
|
49.566 | ex | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Dec 21 1992 09:22 | 23 |
| Another 2 points dropped to a bunch of poxy no-hopers who should be in
Division 2. As usual Ayr looked completely lost in the Commonwealth
Stadium, something to do with the lack of atmosphere,fans,shelter etc.
Ayr lost to a goal from Malcolm Coyle after 50 minutes. He was allowed
too much time and space on the edge of the box and he swivelled to fire
into the far corner across Duncan. It was a preventable goal which the
midfield men must take the blame for conceding. It is a while since I
witnessed such an ineffectul midfield performance. Robertson and
Traynor were utter rubbish and nobody gave the ball to Mair often
enough for him to do anything. George started the game well but faded
and was overshadowed by an excellent performance from Stuart Elder of
Meadowbank who is one to watch for the future. Stuart "Wee Dwarfy Chap"
Robertson was given his first outing as a sub for Ayr and looked good
for about 10 minutes before being dragged down to Ayr's level. Carse
was brought on for Walker but again got no service. Closest Ayr came
was a Graham header from a corner which was cleared off the line.
Most amusing incident was the mass humming of the theme to "The
Twilight Zone" as Meadowbank ran onto the park accompanied by loud
booing. They must be the only team who get booed onto the park every
week, home or away.
Raith away next week. Here's hoping for a late Christmas pressie.
|
49.567 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Dec 21 1992 10:46 | 55 |
| The story so far.....
July
18th Stranraer 3-0 Gardner (2),Graham
21st SOUTHAMPTON 1-0 Kennedy
23rd MOTHERWELL 1-2 Shaw (pen)
25th SUNDERLAND 0-0
August
1 1st DUNFERMLINE 1-1 Mair SO Kennedy
1 4th MEADOWBANK 1-2 Agnew BK George,Agnew,Robertson
2 8th Clydebank 1-1 Walker BK George,Mair
SK 11th Partick Th 0-2 - -
2 15th Raith Rovers 0-1 - BK George
4 22nd KILMARNOCK* 2-0 Kennedy, BK George,Agnew,Walker,Kennedy
Montgomerie (OG) Howard.
5 29th Hamilton 1-1 Graham BK George
AC 30th Girvan 6-0 Carse 3 Shaw 2
Howard
September
5 5th MORTON 0-2 - SO Howard BK George,Graham
5 12th COWDENBEATH 0-1 - -
7 19th Dumbarton 3-0 Graham,Traynor BK Mair,Agnew
McTurk
7 26th St.Mirren 0-2 - BK Kennedy,Walker
BQ 29th ST MIRREN 2-1 Walker (2) -
October
9 3rd STIRLING A. 2-1 Graham (2) -
11 10th Dunfermline 3-1 Graham,McTurk BK Robertson
Traynor
13 17th CLYDEBANK 2-1 Traynor,Mair -
BQ 20th Kilmarnock 0-1 - -
13 24th Morton 1-2 Shotton BK McTurk
14 31st HAMILTON 0-0 - BK Howard
November
15 7th RAITH ROVERS 1-1 Walker BK George,Walker
15 14th Kilmarnock* 0-3 - BK George,Walker,Shotton
Howard
17 21st DUMBARTON 5-3 Traynor,Mair(3) BK Shotton
Robertson
- 28th Cowdenbeath POSTPONED
December
18 1st Stirling Alb 0-0 - -
20 5th ST.MIRREN 2-0 Graham,Walker BK Graham,Robertson
21 8th Cowdenbeath 2-2 Graham,Traynor -
23 12th DUNFERMLINE 1-0 Graham -
23 19th Meadowbank 0-1 - BK George
Kev...
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49.568 | C'mon the no hopers | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | I only do it coz,I'm good at it | Mon Dec 21 1992 20:05 | 9 |
| RE.566
Kev,
I beleive that is 4 points these no hopers from the Commonwealth
Stadium have taken off yous this season !!!
SQF Jambo
|
49.569 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Dec 23 1992 08:44 | 9 |
| Colin,
This is indeed true ! Ayr seem to have this failing against weaker
opposition when we just can't turn our obvious superiority into a good
result. (Makes me glad we don't have to visit any other poxy no-hopers
in Edinburgh)
However we do manage to gub so-called Premier league and Super League
teams such as St Mirren and Dunfermline on a fairly regular basis.
Kev...
|
49.570 | Brewster must go..... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Sat Dec 26 1992 16:58 | 11 |
|
Another goal from Craig Brewster cancelled out Mair's 6th goal
of the season. Brewster has now scored all 3 of Raith's goals
against Ayr this season, and just remember, we tried to sign him
on several occassions when he was with Forfar. A point away from
home against the league leaders must be acceptable. Hopefully a win
next week against Killie who "bottled" it again against a team who
played the whole 2nd half with 10 men. Shame really!!!
Danny.
|
49.571 | Happy New Year... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Tue Jan 05 1993 10:37 | 27 |
|
Poor finishing in the first half cost Ayr at least a point in the
new-year derby with Kilmarnock. Killie had the first chance when a
mistake by Howard let Williamson through on Duncan but his shot struck
the post and rebounded clear. Ayr then looked the better team but poor
finishing and a good performance from Geddes in the Killie goal kept
the score sheet blank at half time.
Killie caught Ayr straight from the 2nd half kick off when a
Williamson cross was turned in by Porteous. Kilmarnock then took
control of the game and really should have scored 2 or 3 more as the
game wore on. Geddes had a terrific save from Ayr's new signing
McGivern late in the game to deny Ayr a point.
What do others who were at the game think about Ayr's disallowed goal
after 10 minutes? I though it was a perfectly valid goal as Geddes had
made a save, knocking the ball BACK into play therefore playing the
forwards onside. McGivern was given offside after Kennedy had knocked
the rebound into the goal, even though from where I was he wasn't
interfering with play.
McGivern should be a good signing for Ayr, even though he missed a
couple of chances against his old team on Saturday.
Danny.
|
49.572 | Treble busters..:-) :-) | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Jan 11 1993 18:50 | 13 |
|
A good 2-1 victory against Dunfermline on Saturday has been rewarded
by a home tie against Rangers in the next round. I personally would
have preferred the tie to be at Ibrox. Let's face it, Ayr won't win
the tie and a full house at Ibrox would see a lot of cash coming Ayr's
way.
That's 3 wins and a draw against Dunfermline this season. As they say,
it's a funny old game. Kille are about 8 points clear of Ayr, yet they
have lost all 3 of their games against Dunfermline this season.
Danny.
|
49.573 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jan 18 1993 08:58 | 17 |
| Sandy Loudon has at last seen the light and resigned. He obviously did
not want to leave while the club were going through a bad patch so he
waited until they had beaten the Pars (again) and drawn Rangers at home
in the next round and decided enough was enough. Donnie McIntyre is the
new chairman and George Smith has been temporarily co-opted onto the
board to maintain a quorom. Rumour has it that Alex Ingram and
A.N.Other will be appointed to the board in due course. It may be due
to Ingram sponsoring the Paisley Thugs that he will wait until the end
of the season before coming onto the board. Time will tell.
The game at Douglas Swamp has been re-arranged for Wednesday and will
definitely go ahead....
NOT !
Kev...
|
49.574 | Rangers game tickets | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Jan 20 1993 07:49 | 5 |
| On entry to the Morton game on Saturday you will receive a voucher
which will allow you to purchase a ticket inside the ground. This was
on the club call this morning.
... Stevie
|
49.575 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jan 20 1993 09:05 | 19 |
|
More ticket info....
Rangers have been given the away end (should think so to !) and this
amounts to 3700 tickets which will be distributed in the normal way.
As Stevie says, Ayr fans attending the Morton game will be given a
voucher on paying at the turnstiles and this can be used to buy a
ticket inside the ground. This will probably apply to the game against
Stirling on the 26th as well. How many of the Ayr tickets will be sold
during these games I don't know but it will probably mean that some
will be left and they will go on public sale at the ground nearer the
time. I hope they don't let many Rangers supporters into the Ayr end.
Season tickets are valid without the need of a voucher/ticket.
Looks like some people might need to actually go to a game before the
Rangers game (morning Del !)
Kev...
|
49.576 | Ayr | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Wed Jan 20 1993 10:49 | 4 |
| Ayr have apparently signerd Bobby Russel the former Rangers player
... Stevie
|
49.577 | | BUSSTP::DREES | Relegation....?? | Wed Jan 20 1993 14:28 | 14 |
|
re .575
Kev...what are you trying to say !!!!
Me a part time supporter.....nah.
Anyway I've got my ticket courtesy of the supporters club. I couldn't
risk not seeing the day Rangers treble ambitions bit the dust !
Del.
ps. The Stirling game on Tuesday could be a possilbility.
|
49.578 | Mair Huns than a Hunnery....Count me in!!! | MASALA::GMCKEE | | Sat Jan 23 1993 07:42 | 14 |
|
Hello Hello,
Hi Kev,hate to tell you this but I reckon there'll be a rake of
red,white and blue mixed in with the black and white stuff. I already
know of a dozen or so and that's only through here. I reckon after
Rangers and Ayr have taken up their tickets that 3-4000 will be up for
grabs. I bet there'll be a few unknown faces at today's game. Possibly
Ayr's biggest crowd (apart from the the games against your squirrel
buddies).
Cheers,
Gordon....( I feel a weekend in the homeland coming
on).
|
49.579 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jan 25 1993 11:18 | 18 |
| Hello to you too Gordon,
Unfortunately for Rangers supporters, STRICT segregation will be
enforced at the game and anyone found in the wrong end will be ejected
immediately. No one will be allowed into the Ayr end wearing Rangers
colours and vice-versa. According to the Sunday Mason, almost all the
tickets were sold on Saturday and the rest are up for grabs on Tuesday
night. Doesn't look like there will be many left for public sale
between now and Feb 6th. I know of a few irate supporters who will
report any interlopers in the Ayr end to the stewards, whose duty it is
to remove them. (These irate people are enclosurites who had to give up
their "normal" standing area against Motherwell in the cup last year
and move to the opposite side of the tunnel , only to find that area
contaminated with Maroon and Amber scarves, and they are not willing to
let this happen this year).
Kev...
|
49.580 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jan 27 1993 08:57 | 24 |
| Ayr 2 - 2 Stirling Albion
Ayr threw away a point last night in a game they should have won by 2
or 3 goals. Poor defending saw Ayr 2-0 down after 31 minutes, the first
a free header at the back post and the second was a free-kick from 40
yards which eluded everyone and ended up in Cammy's right hand corner
of the net. To their credit, Ayr never gave up and should have gone in
at the interval level after so much pressure and chances. Traynor
finally pulled one back with a tremendous left-foot volley from 20
yards which screamed over the defence and in at the postage stamp
corner. Bobby Russell made his debut and was unlucky to see a
blistering shot deflected onto the bar and to safety. A Mair free-kick
brought a brilliant save from McGeown and he teams went in with the
score 2-1 to Albion. Ayr started the second half as they finished the
first , on the attack, and were eventually rewarded when a pass from
McGivern found Mair free in the box and he shot into the keepers left
hand corner. Plenty of pressure in the remaining time only brought
frustration as the ball would just not go in the net. Closest was
Russell again with a volley from 10 yards which an Albion defender
miraculously cleared of the line with a header. All in all , a point
dropped.
Kev...
|
49.581 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jan 28 1993 08:52 | 9 |
| The capacity for the cup-tie against Rangers has been increased to
13,918. Extra tickets will be available for both sets of supporters.
The share issue is going ahead and is expected to raise about 3/4 of a
million.
Russell is not on a game-to-game contract but a 1 month deal.
K....
|
49.582 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | | Thu Jan 28 1993 09:07 | 6 |
| Kev, Any idea who is going to pump that kind of money into Utd ?
I don't see Ingram or Barr having a cool million to inject into Ayr.
How are these "new" tickets to be sold ?
SQF HM...
|
49.583 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jan 28 1993 13:09 | 10 |
| The idea behind it appears to be that the 110 existing shareholders are
offered new shares on a "5 for every 2 held" basis. It also leaves the
door open for new directors to buy into the club. I'm not sure of it
yet, I'll let you know when I find out more.
The remaining tickets will be sold today to season ticket holders (I
just bought 5 an hour ago) and any remaining will be sold on a public
sale basis after 10am tomorrow at the ground.
Kev...
|
49.584 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | | Fri Jan 29 1993 12:54 | 4 |
| Kev, Whats the team news for the Bankies match on Sat.
SQF HM..
|
49.585 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jan 29 1993 13:13 | 11 |
| Sal,
The only thing I have heard is that Agnew will not be playing tomorrow
and has only a 50-50 chance of playing in the cup game. I would expect
that Stuart Robertson may give way to Kennedy or G Robertson at left
back. Howard was dropped for the Stirling game and Traynor had a good
game at centre-half so I expect him to stay in the team. Hopefully
Russell will play, even at 35 with bad knees he's still got class.
Kev...
|
49.586 | Never a fitba player ! | PAKORA::JJACK | c|e|l|t|i|c| | Fri Jan 29 1993 13:16 | 9 |
|
Sorry Kev....
Bobby Russell ????....Class !!!!!
Come on Kev, he didn't even have any when he played with Govanites !!
|
49.587 | | MASALA::GMCDONALD | | Sat Jan 30 1993 17:28 | 6 |
|
Clydebank 1:1 Ayr United
Eadie Russell
Kev, Any chance of a match report ??
|
49.588 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Feb 01 1993 09:26 | 26 |
| Ayr were a shade fortunate to leave Kilbowie with a point after a poor
second half let Bankies back into a game that Ayr should have had won
in the first half. Stringing some great passing movements together and
running the show in the first half, Ayr should have been 2 or 3 up
before Eadie scored completely against the run of play in the 28th
minute. A long through ball from the keeper eluded Shotton then Traynor
and left Eadie with a simple chance from 10 yards. Ayr equalised when
Kennedy and Robertson combined to leave Russell with a chance which he
sent into Woods' left hand corner after 32 minutes. 2 minutes later
Eadie struck the bar with a rasping drive and Wilson fired the rebound
over the bar. Second half was poor with Bankies showing up better and
Ayr hitting on the break when they could. The midfield dropped out of
it completely and McGivern was subbed for Walker who livened things up
a bit. Henry hit the Ayr bar in the 70 th minute and a fantastic double
save from Cammy with 9 mins to go ensured a point for Ayr. Big Ally was
my MOM although he spoiled it a bit by being the only booking.
Rangers reserves at home tonight.
Kev...
ps C'mon JJ , take off those green and white tinted specs and realise
that there are/were some good players who did not/do not play for
Celtic. Russell is classy in his present company and was classy when he
played for Rangers. Most football supporters would agree.
|
49.589 | lambs to the slaughter...? | BUSSTP::DREES | Three good buddies were... | Wed Feb 03 1993 11:17 | 11 |
|
Any brave or foolish men like to make a favourable prediction
for Saturday ??
Not me...my only hope is that if we don't lose a goal in the first
10mins we might keep the score down to 3 or 4. But then again......
Del...making his 4th appearence of the season.
|
49.590 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Feb 03 1993 13:23 | 21 |
| If Duncan doesn't lose a goal to the first back post cross, I'll be
surprised and chuffed. Hateley will climb all over Traynor and McCoist
will be there to pick up the pieces and if we lose an early goal then
it could be a cricket score.
However, we may just manage to keep the score respectable (0-2,1-3)
I just hope there is no humiliation involved. Ayr have nothing to lose
and should go out and attack Rangers. Playing 10 men behind the ball
would be suicide against the best team of foreigners in Scotland.
As there appears to be no competition to Rangers domination of the
league perhaps they SHOULD go into a Euro-Super league, after all they
hardly have a Scotsman in the team.
Goram-English,Stevens-English,Gough-South African,McPherson-American,
Mikhailitchenko-Ukraine,Kuznetsov-Ukraine,Gordon-English,Huistra-Dutch
Steven-English.
Kev...
|
49.591 | PREDICTION 8^Q | AYOV17::BGILCHRIST | | Wed Feb 03 1993 13:31 | 3 |
|
Ayr 0 Rangers 10
|
49.592 | KILLIE ARE BACK | KIRKTN::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Wed Feb 03 1993 17:25 | 10 |
| What do you mean kev it could be a cricket score.....??????
anyway,good LUCK you'll need it.
AYR 1 RANGERS 4
CHARLIE.
(SQF)
|
49.593 | Killie in the 1/4 finals 8-)). | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Fri Feb 05 1993 04:47 | 20 |
|
Charlie,
Rangers by 4-1 sounds about right to me,anything else would be a
bonus.What else can you expect when faced with a team that cost
millions,anyway we won't disgrace the county in this tourney,unlike our
nasty wee cousins from up the road who have left the cup in recent
years with defeats from such world class outfits as Stranraer,Qos and
Meadowbank. Not forgeting their 0-3 stuffing in the highlands from
Inverness(I'm told 4 of the 'ness players had sandshoes on) !!!
Bring on the boys fae the Gla,BTW the water will be too cold for
a swim lads,but come back for the fair in July it should be okay by
then.Red cola and fish suppers are at the normal prices !! 8*)))).
SQFHM..
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49.594 | Isn't Rab C Nesbitt from down Govan way ???? | PAKORA::JJACK | I pray to Macca | Fri Feb 05 1993 05:30 | 8 |
|
Here's hoping you're wrong for once (What am I saying, Sal's always
wrong) & the Honest men gub the Dishonest men of the Govan MIM Works
XI.
SQFCSC
|
49.595 | SUPER AYR ,PRIDE OF THE COUNTY !! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Sun Feb 07 1993 21:11 | 32 |
|
AYR UNITED 0 GLASGOW RANGERS 2
McCOIST
GORDON
Rangers took the tie with a goal before half time and then a
killer goal in the last 15mins.Ayr were not taken apart as all the
previous notes sujested.Instead they treated their 9000 fans in the
crowd to a display of guts and bottle that they have not shown for many
a year.
I would say we had about 50 per cent of the play, but we missed
our chances and Rangers tucked theirs away, but I suppose thats why
we're in the first and they are the premier league champs.
Our best players were Burley and Shotton while I thought Goram
and Brown were outstanding for Rangers.BTW who told Scott Nisbet that
he was a footballer ?
I would like to think that some of our part time fans at the
game would come back for the league matches if only to stop the Killie
troops having a go cos they pull in larger gates for league games.EH
DEL.
All in all a great day out for the Utd faithfull but a shame about
the result.
P.s Its been 15 years since I last saw Rangers fans in their
traditional pose,of face down in the gutter still clutching their
wine bottle...some things never change .Wish I could see it twice
a season though....8-(..
SQFHM..
|
49.596 | Well Done Ayr From a Killie Fan | AYOV16::BLIVINGSTONE | | Mon Feb 08 1993 07:28 | 9 |
|
.595
On the subject of PART-TIME SUPPORTERS nobody in Scotland is able
to compete with Rangers on that score i mean they now have an extra
25,000 part-time supporters at their home games every week,they were
nowhere to be seen before Murray and Souness arrived.Well done to Ayr
on a good performance i just wish wee Sammy had put a couple of those
headers away it would have great to see Ayr putting the most biggoted
club in football out of the cup.
|
49.597 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Feb 08 1993 10:22 | 17 |
| I can only echo what has already been said. Ayr played very well for a
First Division team against "one of the top teams in Europe" and can be
aggrieved not to have scored at least one goal against their lacklustre
opposition. Ayr will look back on McGivern and Mair's headers (so
close) , Burley's free-kick and Russell just failing to control the
ball with a free shot available , as the best chances they had. When
you look back to the game, Rangers did not have many , if any , more
chances than Ayr, they just got that wee bit of luck in front of goal.
Good to see the game played with spirit, only one booking and no bad
tackles. Shotton and McCoist were later spotted in McArthurs pub having
a pint after the match. That's the way it should be...
Back to reality tomorrow, the Tail'o'the bank lads at the Hallowed
Turf.
Kev...
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49.598 | The boyz dun well... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Feb 08 1993 12:43 | 21 |
|
A good all-round performance from Ayr on Saturday saw them compete
manfully against a team who are streets ahead in the Premier League.
With a little bit of luck in the penalty box, Ayr would have scored
at least one goal that their play deserved. However, Rangers looked
as if they could have stepped up another gear or two in it was needed.
I thought Ally Graham would have got the MOM award at the end of the
game, but the sponsor's probably took into consideration the fact that
he was playing against the worst central defender I have seen at
Somerset for many years. Nisbett was totally useless. The only thing
he did was batter the ball as far upfield as he could for 90 minutes.
He was lucky he wasn't booked for his totally inept attempt at being
a football-player.
A few more performance like that should see us climb a few places in
the league, but it's back to a couple of thousand at home games from
now on.
Danny.
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49.599 | We didn't need the cash... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Thu Feb 11 1993 12:14 | 21 |
|
Has anyone seen the article in this week's Ayrshire Post? It leads with
a picture of David Murray and several Rangers players admiring Somerset
before Saturday's cup-tie. The article then goes into a little more detail
about Murray's abortive take-over bid back in '88. Murray offered #17.50 for
each share but was turned down, not by the directors, but by the shareholders
themselves. Also on the table was 750k over 2 years to be spent on ground
improvements and safety work.
The bold Ally McLeod supported the board at the time because he was employed
by the club. He is now saying that Ayr should have accepted Murray's offer.
Mind you, Ally was also quoted as saying at the time that Ayr had the makings
of a brilliant young team!! I believe that most of these "brilliant" players
are now playing in the 2nd division or worse.
Danny.
ps Wasn't it nice to see Tommy Burns miss an absolute sitter at Perth last
night that would have taken Killie through to the quarter-finals.!!!
|
49.600 | KILLIE - Ayrshires' No.1 | AYOV14::JBELL | | Thu Feb 11 1993 13:09 | 15 |
|
Re: -1 "Tommy Burns missing an absolute sitter!!"
To set the record straight, TB made an excellent lob to beat Rhodes;
the ball then bounced on the six-yard line as though it had bounced
off of tarmac and curled over the bar.
I am sure that if it had been on any other park in Scotland then the
ball would have been in the back of the net.
To quote Greavsie, " it's a funny old game!!!"
P.S.
At least our season's not over already!!!
|
49.601 | 1 team in AYRshire | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Feb 11 1993 13:16 | 10 |
| I would like to make it perfectly clear that neither I nor any other
Ayr United supporter gained any satisfaction from Kilmarnock going out
of the cup ...
and we all said so at the celebration party last night.
;-)
Kev....
|
49.602 | hook, line and sinker | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Thu Feb 11 1993 13:43 | 13 |
|
re -2
My previous comment about Tommys miss was just for a wind up. I would
like to set the record straight, Killie played some very good football
last night and deserved to win the game in 90 minutes. The golden-oldies
couldn't keep it going in extra-time and lost out to St. Johnstones'
only decent move of the game. Hard luck, but your Scottish cup record
over the past 10 seasons or so still stinks! long may it continue!!
Danny.
|
49.603 | | TRUCKS::WARDR | | Thu Feb 11 1993 16:30 | 3 |
| Err - where _is_ Ally MacLeod these days ?????
Ray
|
49.604 | SHOTTON IS GOD !!!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Fri Feb 12 1993 07:44 | 14 |
|
Re last,
Ally McLeod is currently between jobs,he was sacked as
Queen of the South boss half way through last season.
Re JBell, Our season isn't quite over yet,we get to finish your
season in a few weeks ..
Tuff luck at Perth the other night, I can remember TB doing
us from a similar position on a couple of occasions ..
SQF HM..
|
49.605 | | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Fri Feb 12 1993 12:22 | 7 |
|
Does anyone know when the 1/4 final tie with Hearts in the u18
cup will be played also is a home or away tie ?
SQFHM..
|
49.606 | next week | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Fri Feb 12 1993 12:27 | 11 |
|
Sal,
I think the tie is being played next Tuesday. It's definately a home
tie. The under-18 captain, Derek Allan, impressed Burley when he made his
debut for the top team against Morton on Tuesday, replacing Traynor at
centre-half. Let's hope there's a few more good young ones to come through.
Danny.
|
49.607 | AWAY THE RANGERS | AYOV11::TFILSON | | Tue Feb 16 1993 01:49 | 17 |
|
In reply to note 49.596 I would just like to say to Brian,is it not
true that you have a great dislike not only for Rangers the football
team but for each and every fan that follows the club.I mean to say
your comments about Rangers being the most biggoted team in Scotland
only shows what a biggot you are.Is it not true that your only envious
of the success of the club.You are aggrieved that more
supporters have returned to share in that sucess.It might also be said
that Killie also are sharing these so called PART-TIME supporters
return to the terracings.Maybe you should stay in the Killie note
where you belong.On a more serious note,the score does not reflect
on a bad performance for Rangers nor does this mean that Ayr had a
good performance,what remains is that Rangers are still in the cup
and Ayr are out.When you read this and start saying that the money
won for Rangers and it was expected that they should win the tie
remember one thing Ayr were given the chance at similar financial
backing and they turned it down.
|
49.608 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Feb 17 1993 09:12 | 7 |
|
Aye Tam, right enough. Ayr are out and Rangers aren't. Ayr played above
what was expected of them and Rangers were a disappointment to many
people, mainly their own supporters. When you put 15 million pounds
against 100,000 pounds you expect the score to be more than 2-0.
Kev...
|
49.609 | | BUSSTP::DREES | Three good buddies were... | Wed Feb 17 1993 11:26 | 8 |
|
Kev,
what about giving us some info on this 18 year old
"Des Walker play-a-like" Derek Allan, Burley's raving
about. With the headline in the Record "Dels good for Ayr"
I thought fame had got me at last.
Del.
|
49.610 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Feb 17 1993 11:59 | 16 |
|
"Dekker" was signed 2 years ago as one of the first YTS boys at the
club after Burley arrived. After finishing the season with the under
18s he progressed to the reserve team last season as a regular
right-back but after putting on a bit of height and weight he was moved
into the middle of the park and became the regular centre-half. He has
moved up to be captain of the reserve team and got his chance for first
team glory when Traynor picked up his knock against David Murray's
latest toy XI. 2 games played and no goals lost is not a bad record and
he is benefitting from playing alongside God and the Gaffer. He is
fast, good in the air and will use both feet.
He is destined for better than Ayr.....(unfortunately)
Kev...
|
49.611 | sell him | BUSSTP::DREES | Three good buddies were... | Wed Feb 17 1993 13:15 | 4 |
|
I'll take 2.5 million for him right now!
Del.
|
49.612 | | BUSSTP::DREES | Three good buddies were... | Tue Feb 23 1993 19:02 | 10 |
| Ally Graham has signed for Motherwell and goes straight into their
squad for tonight's game against Rangers.
Fee was 100,000 plus Stevie Bryce (I think).
Ohh Ya Dancer...take the money and runnnnnnnn !!!!
I hope Burley gets the money to spend but somehow I doubt it.
Del.
|
49.613 | Oor Ally's biggar than your's .... | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Tue Feb 23 1993 20:24 | 19 |
|
Del, Your facts are quite correct the player coming to God's
country is Steve Bryce who has been at the 'Well from boys club age,he
is a 23 year old forward with some 1st team experiance.He stands about
5ft 8in so he isn't the biggest player on our books.
The money is in excess of 100K which will be given to Burley
to finance his "full time" squad for next season.This means the 4 that
were getting punted will remain.Very little if any will be used for new
players.
On the subject of Ally Graham,he had his critics but over the
piece he has don a job for us,he cost 25K from Albion Rovers a few
years ago and scored some 40/50 goals for us .So he did the buisness
and left the club with a healthy profit upon his departure.So I wish
him well in with his new club and hope the Ayr fans are kinder to him
when he visits us with his new club than they were when he wore the
"famous" white......8*)...
SQFHM....
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49.614 | Good luck Ally... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Feb 24 1993 08:24 | 17 |
|
re last
Sal, who were the 4 that were getting punted?
Regarding Ally's rapport (or lack of) with the fans. I think most
of the real football fans realised what a good player he was. His only
real fault was that he could be a lazy sod when it suited him. I think
Ayr will miss him up front, he scored goals and created chances for the
rest of the team. A good percentage of Ayr's goals over the last few
seasons have been a result of the big man's abilities. I am quite glad
he's got a move to a premier league club, he deserves his chance in a
bigger league. I wonder who the empty-heads will target their inane
abuse at now??
Danny
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49.615 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | | Fri Feb 26 1993 07:50 | 5 |
|
Dan, I don't know who the four are but I would guess they
would be Crews,Burke,Hood and Howard...All who are on fulltime
contracts at the moment.
|
49.616 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Feb 26 1993 09:36 | 11 |
| Burke is only on a one-month contract and judging by what I have seen
of him it is about 4 weeks too many. Crews can get lost as well,
absolutely useless. Hoody has struggled all season through injury but I
still believe he should stay. Howard can go if Traynor can continue his
good form at centre-half.
The injury problems at Somerset are so bad that only 2 first-team
players trained on Monday. Some of the money from Dobbin should go on a
new treatment table.
Kev....
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49.617 | SHOTTON IS GOD !!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Fri Feb 26 1993 13:21 | 8 |
|
Kev, What are your views on the Graham transfer and what
team changes do you think will be made for next season ?
Also,what do you know of this fellow Bryce ?
SQFHM..
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49.618 | UP UP AND AWAY FOR THE KILLIE | PAKORA::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Sat Feb 27 1993 02:07 | 9 |
| Well sal, my views on the graham transfer or any other ayr players
transfer must be to the benefit of the player(players),any player
transfered from somerset must look back and say,why did i not do that
sooner.As for next season,well its just going to be like any other, same
old teams same old grounds(apart from two)??.
Charlie. (SQF)
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49.619 | "FEBRUARYS NOMINATION" | PAKORA::GCULLION | | Sat Feb 27 1993 03:04 | 7 |
| RE.49.617
I personally feel that GRAHAM should be nominated for the
"RICHARD CRANIUM" AWARD for Feb'93.
Gary SQF TIM.
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49.620 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Mar 01 1993 09:08 | 14 |
| re last
How Ally Graham would win this award when faced with the stiffest of
competition i.e. the players,manager,directors and supporters of
Celtic is beyond me.
;-)
But seriously , I would rather not talk about football at the moment as
I am still trying to thaw out from the hypothermia I caught at sunny
Boghead on Saturday while witnessing the demise (again) of the B&W
machine. A pishier performance I haven't seen all season.
Kev...
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49.621 | Supporters!!!I don't think. | KIRKTN::GCULLION | | Mon Mar 01 1993 21:39 | 12 |
| Re Last.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you on some of the opponents,
but certainly not the part about the fans,as they are still the
loyalist support in the land.
Anyway,who do you think could be in contention for the award
in March.(Lets just see how well the huns really do/possible
contenders).
GARY SQF
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49.622 | Seeing throu a BLUE haze?. | KURMA::DREILLY | | Mon Mar 01 1993 23:21 | 4 |
| re last
LOYALIST SUPPORTERS Gary what are you on.
^^^^^^^^
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49.623 | How could you!!. | KIRKTN::GCULLION | | Tue Mar 02 1993 02:21 | 11 |
| Re Last
Loyalist as a pun not a statement.I thought even you would realise
that,especially of me!!!! c'mon Davie, I expect more than that from
you.
It also shows I am not a bigot as I could have used many names,such
as faithfull and football.
Do you have to be one of them to use such a word.
SQF Gary.
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49.624 | Shock score from the dump... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Tue Mar 02 1993 21:28 | 11 |
|
Hamilton 1 - 3 Black and White machine
Bryce (new boy from 'Well)
Walker
Scott (YTS debutant)
For the 2nd season in a row, we've burst the Accies promotion dream!!
Danny.
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49.625 | | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Wed Mar 03 1993 07:47 | 9 |
|
Can't believe this result after the way we played at
Dumbarton,Accies must be really bad.If you were at the game Kev,
could you please put in your usual match report...
Morning Del..............
SQFHM..
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49.626 | There wasn't enough subs! | AYOV14::DKEARY | THE LONE ACCIE | Wed Mar 03 1993 08:27 | 6 |
| Mornin Sal
Accies ARE really bad. What a showing up you gave us last night.
Every member of the team (including the keeper) was pure P!$h.
Ayr played well and for me the man of the match was Burley- roll on
next season!
Del
|
49.627 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 03 1993 08:53 | 12 |
| Mornin' Sal,
After Saturday's performance I decided not to travel and this is what
happens. Damned inconsiderate if you ask me, winning when you expect
them to get gubbed.
The team showed a few changes with McGivern, Russell missing and Barry
Scott coming in for his first game of the season (a scoring debut at
that !) Traynor returned to his midfield position.
Bring on the Blue Brazil, it could be 2 in a row.
Kev...
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49.628 | | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Wed Mar 03 1993 08:59 | 7 |
|
Kev, Do you know the full line up from last night ?
SQFHM..
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49.629 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 03 1993 14:12 | 6 |
| Duncan,Burley,Graeme Robertson,Shotton,Allan,George,Kennedy,Walker
Bryce,Traynor,Scott. Subs Burke and I think Hood.
Still In Shock.
Kev...
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49.630 | MONEY CHANGED HANDS !!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Wed Mar 03 1993 14:27 | 7 |
|
Kev, Just wondering if you could tell me how many points
we had at this stage last season and indeed how many we finished
with ? Just to see if we really are worse than last term.
SQFHM..
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49.631 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 03 1993 15:46 | 6 |
| I'll need to check up on our points total after 32 games last season
but I'm pretty sure we finished with 48.
Confirm it tomorrow.
Kev...
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49.632 | MID TABLE AYR | KIRKTN::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Thu Mar 04 1993 12:39 | 13 |
| Sal, Iam not sure how many points you have but, does it realy matter..?
iam sure you are no further up the league than in any other season
previous to this one.
GOOD RESULT AGAINST HAMILTON.
CHARLIE.(SQF)
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49.633 | 200,000 | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Fri Mar 05 1993 08:19 | 25 |
| **********************************************************************
*** What this note for BIG news of a transfer ***
*** remember where you heard it first ***
*** 200,000 pounds - yes 200,000 pounds ***
Ayr player goes to English club !!!!!!!!
... Talk to you all later
.... Bean
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49.634 | SELL SELL SELL | PAKORA::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Fri Mar 05 1993 12:22 | 12 |
| hello stevie,
Does Ayr have a player worth 200,000k,or is it the team
your talking about....????,as i remember my old friend Kev say
about the ayr team in note(49.608)Ayr were only worth 100,000k.
CHARLIE.(SQF)
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49.635 | Ground & players going going gone!@ | KURMA::MCOSTELLO | | Fri Mar 05 1993 12:29 | 5 |
|
I don't think Ayr has any player worth 200,000k...perhaps its for
the ground as well!!!@@@.
Tim...
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49.636 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Mar 05 1993 14:51 | 18 |
| re -1
Watch Ayr quite a lot then do you ?
There are some very good prospects in the youths/reserves but it
surprises me that any of them are worth 200K, but do you know that ?
I think not.
Kev...
p.s. Hi Charlie, Long time no hear, perhaps you can let me know when
the Beirut Boys are going to have their mandatory slump ? :-)
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49.637 | tell us who!? | PAKORA::MCOSTELLO | | Fri Mar 05 1993 15:54 | 12 |
|
You know it amazes me how a time in Feb'93.Ayr are only worth a 100k
(note 49.608)....And now one player over [email protected] you reading your
last note I think you are already saying there are no players in Ayr
worth 200k,youths/reserves the lot.....Mind you'll have to sell soon
the ground value is depreciating......
By the way Kev who is this mystery player ..
Tim.
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49.638 | Take the money and run!!!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Sat Mar 06 1993 07:56 | 8 |
| There's no mystery now surrounding the player it is Derek Allan,the
17 year old YTS player who has just broke into the first team,all was
revealed in today's Daily Record although it states the fee as 150k not
200k and also it just states that it is an English Premier Club.What's
the bets that Ipswich may be that club considering Burley and Roberts
were part of their set up,anyway who cares? I think 150k for a
promising youngster who has only played a handful of games is a great
deal as he hasn't really proved himself,he has only shown potential.
|
49.639 | THERE'S ALWAYS NEXT YEAR | PAKORA::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Sat Mar 06 1993 17:41 | 7 |
| Hi Kev,
I THINK THE SLUMP STARTS TODAY(SATURDAY) STIRLING 2 KILLIE 0
OH DEAR.
CHARLIE.
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49.640 | Money, Money, Money | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Mon Mar 08 1993 08:29 | 17 |
|
The player meriting all the attention is Derek Allan, an 18 year old
YTS centre-half. He will be travelling south today to sign for
Southampton for a fee of 150k (Daily Record) or 250k (The Sun). No
matter what paper is right, it would be a a great bit of business by
Burley as the guy has only played 5 first team games so he really has
shown potential only.
Burley is building Ayr's future around a youth policy and with Barry
Scott scoring his 2nd goal in 2 starts, he must be quite happy with the
way things are progressing.
Danny.
ps Nice to see big fat Willie Watters scoring his 99th and 100th league
goals on Saturday.
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49.641 | Ace of Spies / Lou | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Mon Mar 08 1993 09:06 | 9 |
| I really hate to say this you KFC doubters - but-
I did tell you.
Best of luck to Derek Allan.
... Stevie
|
49.642 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Mar 08 1993 09:40 | 17 |
| re- the chappie in SQF, Tim Costello.
Ok so I said in Feb that the team that played against Rangers cost
100K not that they were only worth that. Derek Allan was still playing
in the reserves then and it was only due to an injury sustained by
John Traynor that he was given his place in the team against
Meadowbank. His 5 games were very impressive to the point that 2
managers, in Hamilton to watch that donkey Colin Cramb, were moved to
offer money straight away. He played Cramb off the park and according
to reports in today's Herald a package deal worth 250K is on the table
and the signing talks will take place this week.
Sal,
At this point in the season last year (33 games) we had exactly the
same number of points. (33)
Kev...
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49.643 | 2 3-1 on the trot | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Mar 08 1993 15:49 | 39 |
| Ayr United 3 - 1 Cowdenbeath
Ayr finally recorded their first win over the Blue Brazil but made
heavy weather of it and had to suffer the scare of losing the keeper
and then an equaliser. Straight from the kick-off Ayr attacked the
Cowden goal and had two chances before Walker was brought down in the
box and a rather softish penalty was converted by Stevie Bryce after
5 minutes of his home debut, sending the keeper the wrong way. Numerous
other chances fell to the forwards with Walker the chief sinner,
missing an open goal after a Paul Burke shot was blocked on the line,
but the scoreline stayed the same until half-time. After 2 minutes of
the second half, Cowden were awarded a free-kick on the edge of the
area after a typically robust Duncan George tackle. Henderson bent the
ball around the wall and Cammy Duncan pushed it around the post at full
stretch. However he was injured in the process and was stretchered off
leaving Davie Kennedy to take over between the sticks for the second
time (he covered for Cammy at Meadowbank when he injured his knee).
In 63 minutes Davie overcarried the ball while clearing from hand and
was penalised. The Cowden left-back let loose on the free-kick and it
screamed into the top left corner for a shock equaliser. Ayr threw
everything into attack but were denied by an in-form keeper and poor
finishing. After 85 minutes, Hood collected the ball in the Ayr defence
and carried it forward before releasing it to the Gaffer. After some
neat play involving Burley and McTurk the ball was crossed in and Hood
flicked it backwards to the far post where Traynor crashed the ball
home via the keeper and the post. To say he looked pleased may not
explain his celebrations sufficiently. Ayr continued to press and won a
succession of corners. The last of these brought the 3rd goal when the
keeper cleared only as far as Barry Scott and he laced it into the top
corner for a superb goal in the last minute.
Good performances from Bryce,Scott and Graeme Robertson. Paul Burke can
take a hike, he's not good enough. Good covering by Hood and Shotton
meant Davie Kennedy had only a couple of corners and one shot to
contend with.
Rumour has it Ayr's dealings in the transfer market are not over yet...
Kev....
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49.644 | SHOTTON #1 | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | | Wed Mar 10 1993 23:05 | 8 |
|
DUNFERMINE ATHLETIC 1 AYR UNITED 1
Davies Bryce
All the best to the Pars for next season in the Premier...
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49.645 | In my own opinion | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | You Ain't seen nothing yet ! | Wed Mar 10 1993 23:47 | 9 |
|
Sal,
It would be a waste of time the pars coming into the premier League
as they are so crap,they would be right back down again.
I think it would be better if Raith and Kilmarnock came up as they are
both better supported teams and play better football.
SQF Jambo #1
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49.646 | Credit when due. | PAKORA::SROBINS | PARS,PARS SUPER PARS | Thu Mar 11 1993 14:00 | 11 |
| I have never heard so much c**p in my life,since when have Raith or
Killie had a better support than the Pars.Yes they might have at this
present time, that both them are pushing for promotion but what will
happen when they start to get beat week in week out,i bet then the gates
will drop then.The pars have been through thick and thin the last two
seasons and they still have a loyal band of merry supporters.So Colin
give us loyal Dunfermline supporters and the team the credit we deserve.
SQF Pars man.
P.S
Sal thanks for the support.
|
49.647 | Come on ye Pars.... | YELBUS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Thu Mar 11 1993 14:12 | 19 |
|
re last couple
I have to agree with the previous note, Dunfermline have a far better
support this season than Raith Rovers. Kilmarnock however have the best
support this season in division 1 although it will be interesting to see
how their gates drop once they get gubbed by Raith on saturday and fall
further behind the pars. In 5 meetings this season, Ayr have won 3 and
drawn 2 against the pars, why can't we do the same against the wee teams
like Cowdenbeath, Meadowbank and the squirrels from up the road?
Danny.
ps I think Sal's only wishing you good luck next season as it means you'll
have taken 2nd place from the Baghdad Boys.
|
49.648 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Mar 11 1993 16:00 | 15 |
| Hmmmm !
Methinks you chappies have fallen foul of Colin's renowned "razor sharp
wit". A reply in the Ayr note backing up the squirrels is usually meant
to be humorous and to suggest Raith have a better support than the Pars
is nothing short of ridiculous. The home gates at Stark's Park have
rarely topped 3000 , and that for a team which only has to coast the
rest of the season to go up as champs. This is a pitiful support and
one which Ayr surpassed with ease in the 2nd Division championship year
I would prefer the pars to stay in Division 1 anyway
it means 6 points and a good cup run for the Ayrshire Giants.
Kev...
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49.649 | we're all going to paradise..or is it piggery..who cares..we'll be there | KURMA::CPATRICK | You Ain't seen nothing yet ! | Thu Mar 11 1993 20:39 | 12 |
|
Well done Kev,for sussing me out. :-) :-)
Now Mr Robbins,you say that when Raith and Kilmarnock start to get beat
in the premier league (thats taking it,that they both get promoted)
then there crowds will fall !!!!
Thats good coming from a pars fan seeing as how I can remember when
they were in the premier and there supporters arrived in a reliant
robin and that was for the home games :-)
SQF Jambo #1
|
49.650 | ITS SO EASY | KIRKTN::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Tue Mar 16 1993 00:49 | 16 |
|
Well Kev,
What about Saturday..??? any predictions...al go for
a KILLIE WIN.
KILLIE 2 AYR 1
Charlie (SQF)
P.S HOW ARE YOU KEV
|
49.651 | | KIRKTN::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Tue Mar 16 1993 06:28 | 4 |
|
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49.652 | WE HAD JOY WE HAD FUN WE HAD KILLIE ON THE RUN.. | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | I love the Jambo's | Tue Mar 16 1993 08:00 | 18 |
|
Charlie,
The big derby game on Saturday and poor old Killie
must win.The pressure will be all on Killie as this really is there
last bite of the cherry.Ayr's season finished in January after the
Rangers game so they should be able to play uneffected by pressure,
if thats possible against the squirrels.
We have a great oppertunity to ruin Killie's season
and we should grab it with both hands .Also the cash that two home games
against Killie brings in will come in handy next season.
I would feel a lot more confident if we had McGivern,
Traynor,Russell and Mair fit,but even with out them we should be good
enough to grab a draw and finish Killie for another season.
Kilmarnock 1 Ayr United 1 (6000)..
SQFHM..
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49.653 | Squirrels to the slaughter... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Tue Mar 16 1993 15:54 | 16 |
|
I'm afraid I don't share your confidence in Ayr getting a draw Sal.
Killie must win this one and although it's a great chance for Ayr to
finish the squirrels season, I just think that Killie have a lot more
to lose than Ayr. Hopefully I'm wrong and Malky Shotton's boys will be
celebrating on Saturday night.
Derek Allan (ex-Ayr!!) is included in the Scotland under-21 squad for
the game against Iceland next Tuesday. I doubt if he'll play but it's
another step forward in his career. Hopefully Burley had a clause
included in the transfer agreement regarding future transfers of Allan,
first team appearances and international caps. Could possibly be Ayr's
best ever transfer.
Danny.
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49.654 | SHOTTON #1 | MASALA::GMCDONALD | WE HAD JOY WE HAD FUN WE HAD KILLIE ON THE RUN | Tue Mar 16 1993 16:20 | 11 |
|
Dan, Aren't you being a wee bit over cautous,Killie looked a
very tired and jaded side on the box on Saturday,and are ready for
a real tanking.I know we aren't in much better shape than them but
I think we should have the steam to at least get a draw.
Its been over 4 years since we won at Rugby Park and
this may well be the weekend that we bury that ghost..
SQFHM..
|
49.655 | Naw big wummin | KIRKTN::DMILNE | | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:01 | 11 |
49.656 | they think it's all over...and it is | AYOV11::AARNOTT | | Thu Mar 18 1993 12:14 | 5 |
|
Sorry boys, But Killie's season ended 2 weeks ago at stirling. Pride is
all they are playing for now. (And a job next year!)
Andy.
|
49.657 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Mar 22 1993 09:34 | 25 |
| Kilmarnock 1 - 1 Ayr United
A rather disappointing match in my view with an over-fussy and
inconsistent ref who chose to speak to Killie players who had fouled
but book any Ayr player who stepped out of line. Ayr looked the
hungrier side early on and pressed without really threatening to score
and Killie huffing and puffing (too many old men) in the midfield were
second best. Ayr scored in 34 minutes when a Barry Scott corner was
flicked on by Kennedy and Traynor's header hit the bar and dropped for
Tommy Walker to knock home from 3 yards with the defence static. It
looked like it would stay that way until half-time but a great pass
from Burns sent Skilling free and he slotted into the net past Duncan
despite the challenge from Graeme Robertson. Second half was similarly
dreich and was only livened up by Malky Shotton taking the piss out of
Wee Bobby the Jobbie Williamson and George Seven Bellys McCluskey every
time he could. Killie missed the best chances of the half but even the
ref's attempt to add on the world record injury time could not aid
their cause and the score stayed at 1-1. The correct result probably.
MoM for Ayr ..... Greg Hood, Malky Shotton ( for signalling that his
pockets were full of Killie players.
MoM for Beirut ..... Stark and Innes
Kev....
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49.658 | Even Ayr can give us a game now!! | AYOV14::JBELL | | Mon Mar 22 1993 14:02 | 28 |
|
Re.-1 " an inconsistent ref who chose to speak to Killie players who
had fouled but booked any Ayr player who stepped out of line."
I agree with your point that the ref was inconsistent but to say that
he was more lenient towards the Killie players is a bit of an
exaggeration, perhaps bieng at the away end of the ground has impaired
your view of the game somewhat:-
1) It was Duncan George, I think, that was lucky to stay on the park
after bringing down Calum Campbell and was later warned by the ref that
if he continued with his persistent fouling then he would be given his
marching orders.
2) What a good actor Tommy Walker must be in succeeding in getting
Monty booked after a perfectly legitimate saving tackle where he played
the ball.
I am not surprised that your view was impaired at the Ayr end as the
linesman was just feet away from the incident and he never saw anything
either.
All in all, a poor game with a share of the points bieng about right.
It just goes to show how much our play has deteriorated since January
because Ayr certainly haven't improved theirs any.
JB KFC
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49.659 | we can still do it | BUSSTP::DREES | Three good buddies were... | Mon Mar 22 1993 18:11 | 13 |
|
Chaps,
I think that makes 5 league games on the trot without defeat.
Although it's only 2 wins with 3 drawn,it must represent our best
run since the start of last season. With Raith not having won at
Somerset in 10 seasons I reckon were a nap to make it six.
Is promotion out of the question ?? :-)
Del.
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49.660 | COME ON YE BLUES | KIRKTN::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Tue Mar 23 1993 08:56 | 9 |
| Del,
Promotion is out of the question for Ayr but KILLIE could still
sneak it ????????.
Charlie (SQF)
|
49.661 | | PAKORA::AMCARTHUR | x8225 | Tue Mar 23 1993 11:47 | 8 |
| Promotion......no chance !!
Beating Raith.....no chance !!
Andrew. :^)
|
49.662 | | BUSSTP::DREES | Three good buddies were... | Tue Mar 23 1993 15:57 | 4 |
|
:-).....it's just toooooo easy to get people to bite these days.
Del.
|
49.663 | You're no better than you ever were. | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Mar 25 1993 10:15 | 43 |
| >>AYOV14::JBELL 28 lines 22-MAR-1993 14:02
>> -< Even Ayr can give us a game now!! >-
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Re.-1 " an inconsistent ref who chose to speak to Killie players who
>> had fouled but booked any Ayr player who stepped out of line."
>> I agree with your point that the ref was inconsistent but to say that
>> he was more lenient towards the Killie players is a bit of an
>> exaggeration, perhaps bieng at the away end of the ground has impaired
>> your view of the game somewhat:-
Of course being at the away end of Rugby Park impairs my view, you need
binoculars to watch a game from there.
>> 1) It was Duncan George, I think, that was lucky to stay on the park
>> after bringing down Calum Campbell and was later warned by the ref that
>> if he continued with his persistent fouling then he would be given his
>> marching orders.
Duncan George was unjustly booked for his FIRST offence. The ref then
showed him the same leniency he showed ALL the Kilmarnock players who
offended.
>> 2) What a good actor Tommy Walker must be in succeeding in getting
>> Monty booked after a perfectly legitimate saving tackle where he played
>> the ball.
Monty put in a legitimate tackle ? Don't make me laugh. The guy
wouldn't know how to.
Would you like to explain how Williamson gets away with using his
elbows in every challenge for a high ball ? The ref had the guts to
speak to him on his first offence and then ignored all the rest.
>> It just goes to show how much our play has deteriorated since January
>> because Ayr certainly haven't improved theirs any.
Do I hear the sound of bottles going from the gloomy end of Ayrshire ??
Kev...
JB KFC
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49.664 | Bring back Sludden...-) -) | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Mon Mar 29 1993 21:50 | 13 |
|
Another draw on Saturday extends Ayr's unbeaten run to 6 games.
Looking at the league tables, Ayr have lost 11 games this season,
yet Dunfermline, Hamilton, St. Mirren and the squirrels have only
lost 1 less. Ayr have tightened up at the back as the season has
progressed but are struggling to score goals that would turn draws
into victories. Only Cowdenbeath and Stirling, the 2 bottom clubs,
have scored less than Ayr this season. If only we had a Dalziel,
Eadie or Mathie we could possibly be challenging for the 2nd
promotion spot with the afore-mentioned football teams and Kille.
Danny.
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49.665 | LETS ALL LAUGH AT KILLIE | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | They think its over,IT IS NOW | Mon Mar 29 1993 23:15 | 16 |
|
Dan, It seems that we don't lose many and those that we do are
usualy 1-0,but the real problem is the amount we draw,I think its
in the region of 14 games this season .If half of these had been
turned into victory's then we would be right in there.
We have tried so many strikers this season it is unreal,I
think the real problem is the midfield where there are no creative
players.All the goal scores you mentioned have very good
midfielders behind them like Brewster,Mahood and Harvey.It it may
be in Burley's best interests that we sign a good one for the
middle of the park,Alex Tailor would have been ideal.
SQFHM..
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49.666 | end of the road!!!! | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Tue Mar 30 1993 09:56 | 7 |
| Bobby Russell was released by Ayr yesterday due to his recurring injury
problems.It always was a dodgy signing for United but the pay as you
play deal ensured that we didn't fork out too much on him.It is very
unfortunate for Russell who was a good player in his day but after
seeing him turn out for Ayr,his boots should have been hung up a while
ago.
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49.667 | Malky signs on.. | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Wed Mar 31 1993 19:50 | 16 |
|
Malky Shotton is ready to sign another 1 year contract which will
see him extracting the urine from old-age squirrels for another
season. He also reckons he's still got a couple of seasons left in
him yet. Shotton goes on to say he's enjoying playing for Ayr and
enjoys the rapport and support he gets from the supporters. Good news
for all Ayr fans.
On a more depressing note, George Burley admits to being disappointed
with initial discussions held with the board last week, to discuss the
way forward for the club. No details have been released from this
meeting, but Burley, also general manager did say that both Dale
Roberts and himself have been offered new deals.
Danny.
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49.668 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Apr 05 1993 10:15 | 27 |
| Morton 1-0 Ayr
The worst "game of football" I have had the misfortune to witness all
season. Everybody's favourite ref Joe Timmons was at his inconsistent
best and the far side linesman was a blind prat from Greenock but to
use them as a reason for a terrible performance would be stupid. Ayr
were forced into 2 changes with Burke and Shotton missing from the
line-up which faced Raith and McTurk and Howard replaced them. Ayr
were never seen as an attacking force and were served well only by
Graeme Robertson, Tommy Walker , Greg Hood and Stevie Bryce. Traynor
was an empty jersey in midfield and Howard should pack his bags. He let
that wee dwarfy tube Alexander outjump him time and again and if it
wasn't for the terrible finishing of the Morton forwards, Ayr would
have lost 4 or 5 nil. Cammy had a couple of saves but don't beleive any
media reports that say he had a good game. He was terrible and back to
his old ways of missing crosses or not coming out for them at all.
Burley looked sick to the back teeth of Ayr and if reports are true he
may not be hanging about too long if the directors don't find a new
cheque book. That thug Johnstone scored the only goal after 75 mins
when Kennedy fouled Pickering and McInnes floated the ball to the back
post where Johnstone slid in to volley home a fierce right-footer.
Oh Aye and another thing.
It was raining,. AGAIN !
Kev...
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49.669 | | BUSSTP::DREES | Three good buddies were... | Wed Apr 14 1993 14:12 | 11 |
|
Chaps,
is that big donkey, Ally Graham, out of favour at Motherwell?
He could well be injured but it wouldn't surprise me if he's
already been found out. He hasn't been part of the 13 for the
past 3 weeks.
Always said he was sh*te....
Del.
|
49.670 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Apr 14 1993 15:19 | 8 |
|
Ally left Ayr with a 3 match ban looming and Saturday was the last
game of the ban.
Ever helpfully yours............
Kev...
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49.671 | | BUSSTP::DREES | Three good buddies were... | Wed Apr 14 1993 15:35 | 4 |
|
It's a pity for the "well" that it aint a 6 week ban or more......
Del.
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49.672 | perhaps next century !!!!! | KURMA::GMCDONALD | They think its over,IT IS NOW | Mon Apr 19 1993 15:06 | 7 |
|
Kev, What about a report from the match in Fife on Saturday !
SQFHM...
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49.673 | MATCH IN FIFE | KIRKTN::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Mon May 03 1993 00:06 | 14 |
|
MATCH REPORT
--------------------
Dunfermline 0 Cowdenbeath 2
Charlie (SQF)(KFC)
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49.674 | ayr 1 st mirren... didn't? | AYOV14::GLEROY | | Mon May 03 1993 10:52 | 3 |
| Wishing you all the best for your next game!
Gavin.
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49.675 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | Bonnie Doon | Mon May 03 1993 11:33 | 7 |
|
Re Last , Gavin,what is the feeling in the Killie camp at the
moment ? Are the masses confident of Premier football
next term ????
SQF HM...
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49.676 | No eye'd deer!... | AYOV14::GLEROY | | Mon May 03 1993 13:44 | 8 |
| In short... No! Not as far as I'm concerned anyway. I think both
Killie and Dunfermline will win on Saturday with St Mirren dropping at
least a point to the residents of number 49. There will then be a very
nervous 90 minutes against Hamilton.
Your guess is as good as mine at the moment!
Gavin
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49.677 | Roberts in trouble.. | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Thu May 06 1993 10:09 | 8 |
|
Dale Roberts has been fined 250 quid and banned from the dug-out
for a season following the half-time aggro against Hamilton last
month, all courtesy of a referee who must have been straight out
of the amateur leagues.
Danny.
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49.678 | ONLY 90 mins TO GO... | KIRKTN::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Sun May 09 1993 12:26 | 15 |
| Well done AYR that was a great result on saturday,that should keep the
saints in the first for another year and hopefully get the KILLIE out
of it for a year or five.
Charlie.(KFC)
|
49.680 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Fri May 14 1993 13:47 | 12 |
|
Saw in today's Daily Record that Stranraer have freed Stevie Evans.
A couple of seasons ago he was Ayr's best and most consistent player
and now he can't even get a game for Stranraer.
Liked the sauce too much.
Sammy Johnston has also been freed by Partck Thistle.
Del.
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49.681 | TESCO POKES IN THE PREMIER !!!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | SHOTTON'S ARMY | Fri May 14 1993 23:01 | 23 |
|
Del,or any other Utd noter,
Do you think it would be a good idea to take
Sammy Johnston back after his release from thistle.I remember him
blowing kind of hot and cold with us the last time round,but I can help
thinking he could add something to our talentless midldle line..What
areyour views ??????????
SQF HM..
P.s Good luck to the zoonies from up the road,they will probably add
something to the Premier league.Even if it is only to double the arrest
rates at most premier grounds ...
P.p.s I hope Burley isn't daft enough to sign any of the Killie cast
offs at the end of the season as there seems to be a lot better players
becoming available ...
SQF HM..... ( sour grapes !! YOU BET !!)
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49.682 | Not for us | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Sat May 15 1993 12:30 | 20 |
|
Sal,
Ayr are in dire need of a couple of classy midfield players to
create chances for the forwards. However, Johnston didn't really
do much when he was at Somerset and I don't think he's the player
we're looking for. Burley will wait until he gets a list of all the
frees in Scotland before making any moves. The problem with trying to
sign some full-time players from the Premier League would be the size
of any signing on fees they would be looking for.
Burley has signed a new 2 year contract to see him through until 1995.
Roberts and Shotton have agreed terms for another season.
Danny.
ps Don't worry about the squirrels getting promotion. Unless they sign
a dozen quality players, they'll struggle to match Airdrie's feeble
total this season.
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49.683 | End of season analysis. | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Sun May 16 1993 12:33 | 18 |
|
Final game of the season saw Ayr draw 1-1 with Stirling at their new
ground. Walker scored late on for Ayr to equalise. Stevie Bryce missed
from the spot, as he did against the squirrels in the Ayrshire Cup on
Thursday.
Finished 7th in the league, one point worse than last season. Since
the cup defeat by Rangers in February, Ayr played 16 league games,
winning 5, drawing 8 and loosing 3. Killie gained promotion yet lost
only 1 game less than Ayr. Too many draws, 18 in total, cost Ayr a
higher finish in the league.
Probably not a bad season after all. A couple of good midfield players
are desperately needed if Ayr are to make a challenge next season.
Burley will announce his frees and for-sale on Monday.
Danny.
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49.684 | Thank God thats over !!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | SHOTTON'S ARMY | Mon May 17 1993 11:14 | 13 |
|
Dan, I would say we needed 3 midfielders, 2 for the centre and
1 for the right flank.We could also do with another striker as the
one's we've got don't seem to clever in front of goal.However that
could have something to do with having nothing in the midfield bar
hoofers like George,Robertson and Kennedy..
I would say our back 5 is okay and has plenty of cover,but
the midfield will need sorting..Who do you fancy for these positions ?
SQF HM..
|
49.685 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon May 17 1993 11:24 | 180 |
| Haven't put in match reports for a wee while so there is a few to catch up on
now that the season is over.
10/4 Ayr United 1-0 Hamilton Academicals
Those Accie people will not be welcome back at the hallowed turf
after this performance. Not only did they get the Messiah sent off,
Roberts was banned from the touchline for a year and fined 250 quid
after a half-time melee, but that snawheid Gary Clark was allowed
to stay on the park after spitting on Shotton and striking him.
Still, Davie Kennedy nipped in to score the only goal of the game
after about 55 minutes and send the referee's coupon into the bin
as he obviously wanted Hamilton to win. Cammy saved a penalty early
on.
17/4 Cowdenbeath 0-1 Ayr United
A huge crowd of 217 watched a non-event of a game in brilliant
sunshine. Cowden deserved more from the game after having twice
as many shots as Ayr but no luck in front of goal. McGivern was
fouled in the box and Bryce slammed home the penalty. Entertaining
banter with the fans of the Blue Brazil (a name which will be
synonomous with Kilmarnock during their 1 season foray into the
Premier) and had a great laugh watching Lee, the Cowden midfielder
who appears to be something of a Davie Purdie figure at Central Park
He continually argued with the fans and after getting abuse for
missing from 6 yards he decided to expose certain areas of his
anatomy at them. A great place for pies and bovril but not football.
23/4 Ayr United 0-0 Dumbarton
Haven't a clue how this game went as I missed it (First home game
since December 85, damn) Reports suggest that unbelievably, it was
worse than the week before.
1/5 Meadowbank Thistle 1-2 Ayr United
Grrrreeeaaaatttt ! This defeat for the Twilight Zone boys coupled
with Stirling beating Raith meant it was almost all over for the
Capital Chaps. I'm glad they are going down. A crap stadium with
weird fans and a gameplan which makes watching England entertaining.
Hope they stay in Division 2. Walker scored on Ayr's first attack
after 11 minutes and Bryce scored in our next after 76 minutes.
An incredible series of misses by the Thistle players in the last
2 minutes meant the points returned to Ayrshire.
8/5 Ayr United 3-3 St Mirren
Jimmy Bone is a Prat (Is he related to Gazza ?) His comments to
the press complaining of an Ayrshire ref in his last 2 visits to
the county meant that we had the unbeleivable decision by the
Scottish League to send Kenny Clark from PAISLEY to ref this game.
Hood scored after 10 minutes with a superb header from a Barry
Scott corner. Saints equalised early in the second half when ex
Ayr player Paul McIntyre scored with a header through Duncan's hands
and went ahead when indecision between Shotton and Duncan let that
fat get Lavety in to score. This prompted a pitch invasion by the
clowns from paisley but their joy turned to anger when within 13
minutes Ayr were leading 3-2 after Bryce forced a block from Fridge
which McWhirter turned into his own net and then good work down the
right involving Robertson and Burley saw the latters cross turned in
at the second attempt by Barry Scott. Shotton's replacement McVie
was ordered off with 5 minutes to go after pulling Lambert's jersey
and Gallagher scored to levbel things. An undeserved point went to
Paisley.
13/5 Ayr United 1-2 Kilmarnock
What can I say ? A real game of 2 halfs . Ayr were fortunate to be
only 1 goal down at half-time but gave a good second half performance
which should have resulted in the cup coming to the home of football.
Bryce equalised with a free-kick and then missed a penalty and other
players missed countless other chances. A real sickener.
15/5 Stirling Albion 1-1 Ayr United
Ayr's first visit to Forthbank stadium and an entertaining match to
go with it. After hunting out the complimentaries (Cheers Davie !)
we took our seats in the East stand and watched an untypical end of
season match. End to end stuff, Stirling hitting the woodwork, Ayr
missing another penalty (Bryce again) and 2 late goals to share the
points. Walker scored after a good pass from Bryce who had wriggled
past 2 desperate tackles. Stirling will have to get the car parks
enlarged. 2.45pm and the car parks were full and there was only 1225
at the game.
End of Season Summary
July
18th Stranraer 3-0 Gardner (2),Graham
21st SOUTHAMPTON 1-0 Kennedy
23rd MOTHERWELL 1-2 Shaw (pen)
25th SUNDERLAND 0-0
August
1 1st DUNFERMLINE 1-1 Mair SO Kennedy
1 4th MEADOWBANK 1-2 Agnew BK George,Agnew,Robertson
2 8th Clydebank 1-1 Walker BK George,Mair
SK 11th Partick Th 0-2 - -
2 15th Raith Rovers 0-1 - BK George
4 22nd KILMARNOCK* 2-0 Kennedy, BK George,Agnew,Walker,Kennedy
Montgomerie (OG) Howard.
5 29th Hamilton 1-1 Graham BK George
AC 30th Girvan 6-0 Carse 3 Shaw 2
Howard
September
5 5th MORTON 0-2 - SO Howard BK George,Graham
5 12th COWDENBEATH 0-1 - -
7 19th Dumbarton 3-0 Graham,Traynor BK Mair,Agnew
McTurk
7 26th St.Mirren 0-2 - BK Kennedy,Walker
BQ 29th ST MIRREN 2-1 Walker (2) -
October
9 3rd STIRLING A. 2-1 Graham (2) -
11 10th Dunfermline 3-1 Graham,McTurk BK Robertson
Traynor
13 17th CLYDEBANK 2-1 Traynor,Mair -
BQ 20th Kilmarnock 0-1 - -
13 24th Morton 1-2 Shotton BK McTurk
14 31st HAMILTON 0-0 - BK Howard
November
15 7th RAITH ROVERS 1-1 Walker BK George,Walker
15 14th Kilmarnock* 0-3 - BK George,Walker,Shotton
Howard
17 21st DUMBARTON 5-3 Traynor,Mair(3) BK Shotton
Robertson
- 28th Cowdenbeath POSTPONED
December
18 1st Stirling Alb 0-0 - -
20 5th ST.MIRREN 2-0 Graham,Walker BK Graham,Robertson
21 8th Cowdenbeath 2-2 Graham,Traynor -
23 12th DUNFERMLINE 1-0 Graham -
23 19th Meadowbank 0-1 - BK George
24 26th Raith Rovers 1-1 Mair -
January
24 2nd KILMARNOCK* 0-1 - -
SC3 9th Dunfermline 2-1 Mair(pen)Walker BK Graham
- 16th Hamilton POSTPONED
- 23rd MORTON POSTPONED
25 26th STIRLING 2-2 Traynor,Mair BK SRoberston,Walker,McGivern
26 30th Clydebank 1-1 Russell BK Graham
February
SC4 6th RANGERS 0-2 - BK Duncan
27 9th MORTON 0-0 - -
29 13th MEADOWBANK 1-0 Graham BK McGivern
29 20th St.Mirren 0-1 - BK Allan, George
29 27th Dumbarton 0-2 -
March
31 2nd Hamilton 3-1 Bryce,Walker BK Walker,Burley
Scott
33 6th COWDENBEATH 3-1 Bryce(penalty), -
Traynor,Scott
34 10th Dunfermline 1-1 Bryce (pen) BK Kennedy,George
35 13th CLYDEBANK 0-0 - BK Duncan
36 20th Kilmarnock 1-1 Walker BK George,Robertson,Bryce
Walker
37 27th RAITH ROVERS 0-0 - -
April
37 3rd Morton 0-1 - -
39 10th HAMILTON 1-0 Kennedy SO Shotton BK Hood,Robertson
41 17th Cowdenbeath 1-0 Bryce (pen) -
42 24th DUMBARTON 0-0 - -
May
44 1st Meadowbank 2-1 Walker,Bryce -
45 8th ST.MIRREN 3-3 Hood,Scott,OG SO McVie BK Hood
AC 13th KILMARNOCK 1-2 Bryce -
46 15th Stirling Alb 1-1 Walker BK George, Burley
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49.686 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | SHOTTON'S ARMY | Mon May 17 1993 12:28 | 9 |
|
Kev, Was there any rumours at the ground concerning
transfers either in or out . Also would you take Sammy Johnston back ?
SQF HM..
|
49.687 | You thought it was all over...8-)) | AYOV16::AARNOTT | | Mon May 17 1993 13:11 | 11 |
| Blinkin' flip Kev, I didn't realise Ayr's disciplinary record was that
bad. No wonder you wanted stranraer to come up. 8-)
By the way, It's time to put your money where your favourite saying of
the last week comes from. A fiver say's that Killie will NOT be "the
cowdenbeath of the Premier League" next year.
14 points or more by close of play on the last day next season. Speak
now or forever hold your pieces 8-)))))))))))
Andy.
|
49.688 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon May 17 1993 14:11 | 36 |
| Andy,
I think I'll keep my hand firmly on my pieces !!!
I don't think anybody could really be that bad in the Premier. Even
Killie on their last visit to the Premier came out with more points
than that (and they had a couple of severe leatherings as well if I
remember correctly) however I do believe they will be relegated come
the end of the season. I will be asking my local bookie for odds on the
following;
Rangers for the league and Scottish Cup
Falkirk for the First Division
Killie to drop to where they should be
Brechin to get relegated
Hearts to be one of the 3 teams relegated (if they haven't
gone bust by then)
Wallace Mercer to do a Maxwell
I reckon I should get odds of about 100-1 for the that lot.
100-1 ON !!!!!
Sal,
There was not much talk of transfers at Stirling. I wouldn't want to
see Sammy Johnston back at Somerset , he was lazy,greedy,overweight and
over rated. The squirrels should be interested, although he is a bit
young. I would prefer Colin West from Dundee, Paul McLaughlin for left
back cover, and a striker that can get into the box !
Season ticket prices are up to 90 quid for the ground/enclosure but if
you buy it before 17 june you get a fiver off. Admission for next year
is 7 for the stand, 5,50 for enclosure and 5 for the ground. Robbery.
Kev....
|
49.689 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon May 17 1993 15:17 | 23 |
|
Ayr was rather a quiet town on Saturday night, however, McArthurs Bar
was , as usual, full, lots of Ayr fans in, muttering about how the
hoopy maggots had somehow fluked their way into the Premier but would
surely embarrass themselves now that they were there. Arguments went
on through the evening and voices were raised but everyone fell silent
when through the door walked a giant of a man with an alligator on a
lead. He strode up to the bar, punters scrambling over each other to
get out the way as the alligator eyed them menacingly.
The man's voice boomed above the strains of the disco.
"Do you serve Kilmarnock supporters in here ?" he growled, glaring at the
barman.
"Err,mmm,,ehh, Yes" said the barman, nervously watching the alligator.
"Well I'll have a lager and a Kilmarnock supporter for the alligator"
Kev...
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49.690 | KILLIE - Ayrshires' No.1 | AYOV14::JBELL | | Mon May 17 1993 16:33 | 10 |
|
Re. -1
KMCCLELLAND,
There seems to be a budding comedian inside you but don't give
that day job up just yet !!!
JB (KFC).
|
49.691 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon May 17 1993 17:04 | 10 |
| re .690
JBELL
Glad to see that you have a sense of humour, unlike many of your fellow
supporters.
Cheers,
Kev....
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49.692 | Get rid of time. | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Tue May 18 1993 11:58 | 14 |
|
Free transfers given too : Mickey Robertson, Lachlan Miller,
Stuart Robertson(why did we ever sign him?), Paul Burke, Graeme McVie,
Barry Crews and Alan McTurk. The only real surprise is McTurk although
he didn't feature too often towards the end of the season.
Nigel Howard, Tommy Walker, John Traynor and Gordon Mair have been
asked to go part-time.
Assuming the frees move on, Ayr will be left with 15 players and 5 YTS
nippers. Burley hopes to sign 3 or 4 players in the close season.
Danny.
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49.693 | TESCO POKES IN THE PREMIER.. | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | SHOTTON'S ARMY | Tue May 18 1993 12:10 | 10 |
|
Dan, Burley included I count 17 still on the books,have a count
and see what you come up with. More worrying is that I count 10
fulltimers on the books at the moment so that would indicate that most
if not all signings will be part time players.
BTW I've counted Barry Scott as a fultime player..
SQF HM.....
|
49.694 | | AYOV14::LGRACE | | Tue May 18 1993 15:30 | 7 |
| I also reckon we have 17 players left at somerset.They are as follows:
Full-Time - Duncan,Burley,Agnew,Shotton,Hood,Robertson,George,Scott,
McGivern and Bryce.
Part-Time - Howard,Mair,Traynor,Walker,Kennedy,Spence and Carse.
It has been indicated that there will be 5 YTS signings.I personally
would rather have seen George going part-time than Traynor.
Roll on next season
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49.695 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed May 19 1993 19:21 | 12 |
|
Sal,
I, like the others, wouldn't have Sammy Johnston back at Somerset.
For the same reasons Kev mentioned, coupled with the fact that Burley
is not the type to resign a player he let go, he'll not be back. I
always felt he thought Ayr was below him. We certainly got the better
deal when Cammy arrived at Somerset. Burley knows the midfield is the
weakest part of the team so hopefully this can be sorted before the
start of next season.
Del. (can't even call me part-time any longer)
|
49.696 | status | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Mon May 31 1993 10:56 | 5 |
| Has Cammy or Greg Hood signed for next year. I know they have been
offered new contracts.
... Bean
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49.697 | Eeeeeeeyyyyyyyooooorrrrrrrrrrrre ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon May 31 1993 16:11 | 11 |
| re .last
Not as yet......but tomorrow's paper may prove me wrong.
We have drawn the Mighty Motherwell at home in the 2nd round of the
League Cup (formerly the Skol Cup).
Practise making donkey noises for the return of Dobbin....
Kev...
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49.698 | Dalglish for Somerset. | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Wed Jun 02 1993 13:49 | 15 |
|
Ayr will play Blackburn Rovers at Somerset on July 28th in a
testimonial game for ex-manager Ally MacLeod who actually played
for Blackburn 30 years ago. Kenny Dalglish is expected to bring
his first team squad north for the game including Britain's most
expensive player, Alan Shearer who is recovering from injury. If,
as expected, Roy Keane signs for them, they'll be fairly attractive
opponents for a pre-season friendly. Just my luck that I'll be away
on holiday then. I'll just have to wait until the season starts in
earnest and then delight at the thought of watching Ayr v Stirling
or some other cracking tie.
Danny.
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49.699 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jun 02 1993 14:06 | 15 |
| Greg Hood has signed another contract (full-time) for 1 year.
Only Tommy Walker and Graeme Robertson have yet to agree terms for
next season. I take it this means Cammy Knickers has re-signed.
We have also arranged a pre-season friendly against Coventry and
perhaps Hibernian (if they ain't known as Edinburgh Rovers after
the possible merger with Hearts ;-))
One of my rumours could be true . It appears we were interested
in Colin West.
Kev...
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49.700 | Answers please... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Wed Jun 02 1993 15:01 | 10 |
|
Kev,
who the hell is Colin West ??????
Danny.
ps I seem to remember some chap by that name at Dundee. Where will
Burley get any money to attract players to Somerset??
|
49.701 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Tripple ripple truffle shuffler | Wed Jun 02 1993 15:24 | 6 |
|
Colin West used to play for Sunderland and Rangers among others, I
believe. I was probably being kind when I used the word 'play' in the
previous sentance, btw. ;-)
Tim
|
49.702 | | SUBURB::COMMIT | Commit Group | Wed Jun 02 1993 16:27 | 7 |
| Danny
Colin West is crap. He used to play for West Brom and to put
it in short for yer, he couldn't score in a brothal.
Baz
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49.703 | | KIRKTN::ISUTHERLAND | Serial Waster | Wed Jun 02 1993 17:34 | 5 |
|
There are two Colin West's.One who plays/ed for Dundee,(signed from
Chelsea reserves i think),and the other who has already been mentioned,
who played for Rangers,(Graeme Souness' first signing for anyone who is
interested).
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49.704 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jun 02 1993 17:41 | 22 |
| re 701,702
Sorry chaps, you are thinking of the other Colin West, ex-Chelsea and
Rangers and currently with Swansea (seen getting sent-off in a play-off
game recently)
I am talking about the Colin West who was released by Dundee. He is a
25-year-old right midfield/winger with explosive pace who destroyed
Ayr in the Centenary Cup final. He is a wee bit injury prone and found
it hard to move up to Premier league standard and this is why he got
the chop from Dens. Burley spoke to him last week but he has since
returned to Middlesborough (home-town) and hopes to find a club down
there.
Other rumours I would like to start are;
We are signing Graham Harvey from Airdrie (free)
Paul McLaughlin from Thistle (free)
Malky Shotton will be made assistant manager at the end
of the season.
Kev...
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49.705 | You've got to be kidding | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Thu Jun 03 1993 09:29 | 6 |
|
Come off it Kev, how can we sign Harvey and McLaughlin. Between them
they must weigh about 35 stone, and their both crap!!!
Danny.
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49.706 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jun 03 1993 10:01 | 8 |
| I know Paul is a bit on the chubby side, but Harvey is tall and lanky
as far as I can remember, and he scored 25-30 goals last year, albeit
for Airdrie reserves.
If we are going to try and play with 2 midget strikers we better not
hope to see many goals.
Kev...
|
49.707 | They were all fat thugs | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Thu Jun 03 1993 14:16 | 11 |
|
Kev, with the present squad of players, I don't think we can hope
to see many goals anyway.
I thought Harvey was one of the fat thugs who kicked their way out
of the first division a couple of seasons ago. Maybe I've got him
mixed up somebody else in that team. After all, they were all a
bunch of hoofers.
Danny.
|
49.708 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Sun Jun 20 1993 11:51 | 7 |
|
Ayr are away at Clydebank in the first game of the season.
We took 5pts out of 8 from them last season. The same this
coming season would be fine.
Del.
|
49.709 | Bannon for Ayr !!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | | Sun Jun 20 1993 14:59 | 11 |
|
Del, What do you think of thr Burns signing, also who do
we play at New Year this season ? Now that Killie are
scared to play us ? 8*)))))...
Also,could you tell us who the Jambo's play on the 1st day
of the season as your old pal Colin has been asking ???
SQF HM..
|
49.710 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Sun Jun 20 1993 15:52 | 16 |
|
Sal,
the jambos travel to Ibrox on the opening day. After their usual
gubbing they'll probably start the season at the bottom of the league.
The question is....will they improve on that position????? :-)
I'm not so sure about Hughie Burns, if he stays injury free and 100%
fit he should be a good signing, if not, at least we haven't wasted
cash. He should add some dig to the middle of the park and at 27 we
just might get a few good years out of him....BUT he wasn't a great
success at Killie, so only time will tell.
I've only got the opening days fixtures from the Sunday Mail, so
I don't know about the New Year game.
Del.
|
49.711 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jun 21 1993 10:27 | 14 |
| Ah Del !
The sad and rabid rantings of man deprived of his visits to the San
Somerset Stadium. You're doing too many weekenders in DEC and it must
have affected your judgement. Hugh Burns is a fat, overweight, obese
large, lazy,troublemaking , good for nothing squirrel and Burley will
rue the day he signed the pudden. I have it on good authority that he
was escorted from the Gorgie Boys Den after certain misdemeanours were
brought to light and he did not have a good rep at Baghdad either.
Thunder Thighs wearing the Black & White ! I'm gutted.
Kev....
|
49.712 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Mon Jun 21 1993 11:04 | 14 |
|
Kev,
don't mince your words...
Am I right in thinking you don't feel he'll be a good signing ?
Or did I pick you up wrong ?
Don't be sooooooo vague.
Del.
|
49.713 | Ex pat needs info !!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Mon Jun 21 1993 12:22 | 7 |
|
Kev, Any fresh info,rumour or just plain lies ?
SQF HM..
|
49.714 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jun 21 1993 12:39 | 20 |
| Sorry Sal,
It's all quiet on the Western Front. Burley is reported to be
struggling to find part-time players of the quality he requires.
Tommy Walker has landed a job outside football (did he ever have one in
it ?) and it looks like he may relent and sign the part-time contract
offered to him. Traynor still seems set to leave , if anyone wants him.
Eamonn Bannon has not ruled out a move to Ayr but only if Gala
Fairydean do not top our offer . ;-)
the only rumour/lie I can start is that Gregg Hood's days at the San
Somerset are numbered and that he may be involved in a player swap deal
before the start of the season (with a rather large Premier club i
might add)
there is an element of truth in that. wait and see.
Kev...
|
49.715 | Sorry to see him go... | AYOV11::AARNOTT | | Tue Jun 22 1993 18:06 | 10 |
| Re .711
Kev, your entitled to your opinion but yer talkin P!$h. Shuggie Burns
is neither fat nor lazy - any trouble making rumours may have more to
do with religious differences at rugby park and the wee man's fondness
for a shandy or two. He's still got more guts and heart than many of
the mercenary old codgers at Killie and will definitely "play for the
jersey" (even if a seagull has crapped all over it).
Andy.
|
49.716 | Super Shuggie | AYOV11::BLIVINGSTONE | | Wed Jun 23 1993 04:12 | 6 |
| Well said Andy,i would have love to have seen SHUGGIE stay with us,as
you so rightly said he plays for the jersey and will be a very good
player for Ayr.In fact he,s a better player than most of the crap
currently playing for both Ayr and Killie.
|
49.717 | HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!! | AYOV17::LGRACE | | Wed Jun 23 1993 09:20 | 77 |
| Here is Ayr's fixtures for the coming season.
July-Friendlies
24th COVENTRY
26th HIBERNIAN
28th BLACKBURN
31st STRANRAER
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August
7th Clydebank
10th MOTHERWELL (League Cup)
14th STIRLING ALBION
21st Clyde
28th DUMBARTON
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September
4th St Mirren
10th Brechin City
14th FALKIRK
18th Hamilton
25th DUNFERMLINE
28th MORTON
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October
2nd Airdrie
9th CLYDEBANK
16th Falkirk
23rd BRECHIN CITY
30th CLYDE
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November
6th Dumbarton
9th ST MIRREN
13th AIRDRIE
20th Morton
27th Dunfermline
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December
4th HAMILTON
11th Stirling Albion
18th FALKIRK
27th Clydebank
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January
1st Clyde
8th DUMBARTON
15th St Mirren
22nd STIRLING ALBION
29th Scottish Cup 3rd Round
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February
5th Brechin City
12th Airdrie
19th Scottish Cup 4th Round
26th MORTON
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March
5th Hamilton
12th DUNFERMLINE
19th Falkirk
26th CLYDEBANK
29th Stirling Albion
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April
2nd BRECHIN CITY
9th AIRDRIE
16th Morton
23rd HAMILTON
27th Dunfermline
30th CLYDE
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May
7th Dumbarton
14th ST MIRREN
(Home games in block capitals)
Cheers
Lawrence
|
49.718 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jun 23 1993 10:01 | 12 |
| re .715 and .716
Andy, if he has a fondness for "a shandy or three" then what will he be
like about mid September when he has owned his pub in Darvel for a
couple of weeks ? And he has refused a full-time contract in favour of
part-time at the ripe old age of 27. Distinct lack of ambition there.
I'll be the first to admit if he's playing well,(i'll probably be the
only one to admit it, as no-one else seems to go anymore, except Sal
and Fin) but I have never thought of him as a player I would like to
see in the Ayr side. Too many stories ...No smoke without fire...etc.
Kev...
|
49.719 | No more Seagull Droppings ? | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jun 25 1993 09:53 | 10 |
| Announced in the Ayrshire Post.....
Ayr have a new sponsor for next season with an option to extend the
contract. It will , of course, mean a new strip to rip cash off the
poor , impoverished punters. i.e. ME !
No news on who the deal is with unfortunately.
Kev....
|
49.720 | Major new signing.... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Sat Jul 10 1993 11:32 | 8 |
|
Hot news, Ayr have signed 35 year old midfielder Neil McNab from
Tranmere Rovers. McNab has played for Morton, Spurs, Manchester City,
Brighton, Bolton and Leeds. I recall him being a good player many
years ago, but at 35 I don't think he's one for the future!!
Danny.
|
49.721 | Update | YELBUS::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Tue Jul 13 1993 13:05 | 7 |
|
Well, that's the Eammon Bannon saga over. He's joined Hibs on a
free. Also, Sammy Johnston has signed for the mighty Gateshead. He
might even look good in a non-league team.
Danny.
|
49.722 | Hello world | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Thu Jul 15 1993 15:25 | 8 |
|
The new shirt sponsors will be announced next week, a major high
street chain. Any ideas/suggestions as to who it could be???
Are there any other Ayr fans out there???
Danny.
|
49.723 | S D | AYOV27::SALLEN | | Thu Jul 15 1993 15:39 | 5 |
| Rumour has it they were speaking at one point to Sports Division owned
by Jim Hunter from New Cumnock
... Stevie
|
49.724 | Holidays are over......Boooooooo | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jul 19 1993 11:38 | 9 |
| Sports Division will indeed be the new shirt sponsors. We are now in
the company of the mighty Glenafton in carrying the logo. A new strip
will also appear soon (this week ?) in an attempt to screw more cash
from the fans.
Only 5 days till the start of the friendlies. Saturdays return to
normality at last.
Kev...
|
49.725 | You heard it here first | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Jul 20 1993 15:09 | 11 |
| First result of the season......
Ayr 0 - 1 Carlisle Utd in a closed-doors friendly last night.
The Daily Record revealed today that Sports Division are to be the new
sponsors.
Does Alex "Candid" Cameron read VAXNotes ?? I think we should be told
Kev...
|
49.726 | "New" striker at Somerset.. | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Wed Jul 21 1993 16:42 | 11 |
|
Alan "Rambo" McInally will play for Ayr against Blackburn in Ally
McLeods testimonial next week. He has spent the last week training
with his fellow has-beens just up the road, so any skill he did have
will have been well removed by now!!! Pity we don't have any money
available to offer him a contract, he would treble the size of the
current strike force.
Danny.
|
49.727 | He's made his money | RTOEU::RDELANEY | Back to the teuchter.... | Thu Jul 22 1993 10:30 | 3 |
| There was a picture of him in the paper here (Munich) yesterday. They
reckon he would've had a good career here at Bayern only for his
injuries.
|
49.728 | How's shug? | AYOV11::AARNOTT | | Mon Jul 26 1993 10:28 | 6 |
49.729 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jul 26 1993 11:09 | 40 |
| Ayr United 3 -2 Coventry City
Ayr first friendly of the season saw a rematch of the 1991 curtain
raiser and almost a repeat scoreline. Fielding several new players and
without a few expected names, it was a strange looking side which lined
up against the midlands club. The central defence had Ronnie McQuilter
at 4 and John Traynor at 5. Midfield; McNab at 6, Eddie Annand from
Partick Thistle at 9 and Hugh Burns at 10. Referee Herald of Coventry
sorry - Newton Mearns got the game underway and after an initial spell
of midfield battling it was Ayr who took the initiative when good work
by Robertson and McGivern saw the latters cross headed down by City
left back Morgan straight to Eddie Annand who blasted home from 8 yards
for a debut goal in 21 minutes. This sparked a fightback from City and
Lee Hurst cracked a tremendous shot off the underside of the bar in
almost the next attack. McNab appeared a bit bemused at the pace and
was not linking up with the front men as well as expected and Burns was
doing most of the work along with Kennedy and McGivern. With the rain
falling steadily , everyone moved to the Somerset End in time to see
Kennedy concede a free-kick on the left wing and when the cross came in
there was David Rennie to head home the equaliser in 42 minutes.
Ayr started the second half better and McNab and Scott came more into
the game. A delicate through ball from Annand sent Scott free and he
raced towards goal and at the perfect moment sent a inch-perfect chip
over Johnathan Gould into the net to restore Ayr's advantage. It was
all Ayr now and it came as no surprise when they went 3-1 up when the
tireless McGivern ran clear down the left and his low cross was blasted
home by Hugh Burns from 7 yards. This provoked an angry reaction from a
Coventry player who booted the ball into the enclosure and was booed
and jeered by the home fans. In the 87th minute, Hurst scored a second
for Coventry when Duncan slipped going for the ball and left the City
forward with the easiest of chances.
Marks For Merit
Duncan *** ,Burley *** ,Robertson *** ,McQuilter *** , Traynor ****,
McNab **, Kennedy *** , McGivern **** , Annand *** ,Burns *** ,
Scott ***. Sub Carse *
Hibs at home tonight . Report tomorrow.
|
49.730 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Mon Jul 26 1993 16:25 | 4 |
|
I gather these marks were out of 10 and not 5. :=)
Del.
|
49.731 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Jul 27 1993 10:08 | 47 |
|
Ayr United 0 - 2 Hibernian
Ayr were brought back to earth with a bump last night after losing 2
goals at opposite ends of the match. Hibs served notice of their
intentions as early as the second minute when Duncan had to look smart
to block a shot from Wright with his legs. However the opening goal was
not long in coming and after a mix-up between McQuilter and himself the
ball was played through to Danny Lennon who blasted a 4th minute shot
under Duncan. Ayr were seldom seen as an attacking force and although
McGivern and Annand worked tirelessly up-front, they were not supplied
with any quality balls from a lacklustre midfield. McNab began to come
more into the game however and put in a few fierce challenges, earning
him a warning from the Troon referee. Roland Fabiani was having a good
match at left-back and linked up well with Barry Scott to provide
several openings but Hibs tall centre-half Tweed cleared anything in
the air with ease. Cammyu Duncan had a very active first half , having
to head clear, dribble the ball clear and also clear from the edge of
the box as Hibs pressed for a 2 goal cushion.
Ayr brought on Carse for McGivern at half-time after Sammy had received
an arm knock when Tweed kicked him. This effectively ended Ayr's
attacking hopes as it left Annand ploughing on alone. Carse is too
small and too light. A bit clueless when given the ball as well.
McQuilter was deservedly subbed after about an hour , he was not very
good at all (euphimistic way of describing his performance as the
moderators are clamping down on insults used to describe a player).
Nigel Howard replaced him and immediately, the defence looked tighter.
Cammy had occasion to make several more one-on-one saves the most
notable when Howard slipped and left Evans in and another finger tip
save from an Evans floated shot. With 19 minutes left Hibs brought on
McGraw and the youngster supplied the second goal in the 88th minute
when he slipped the ball under Cammy and in at the far post. Soon after
the ref brought to and end "90 minutes of sheer hell" (said in a wee
girlie-John Barnes type voice) and we departed. BTW we did not have one
direct shot on goal AT ALL. A very disturbing fact.
Marks for merit
Duncan ****, Kennedy ***, McQuilter * ,Fabiani *** ,Traynor ****
McNab *** , Robertson ** , McGivern *** ,Annand *** , Burns ** ,
Scott ** , Subs Howard ** , Carse *
Blackburn Rovers tomorrow night for Ally McLeod's testimonial.
Kev....
|
49.732 | Sign Rambo NOW ! | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jul 29 1993 10:14 | 49 |
|
Ayr United Old Crocks 0 - 2 Dukla Pumpherston Sawmill & Tannery
An entertaining prelude to the big game commenced at 6.45 and had many
stars of the past Ayr teams lined up against broadcaster Chick Young's
XI. Guest player Pat Clinton (a boxer) scored the opener and the Dukla
centre-forward completed the scoring in the last 5 minutes. Good to see
Bobby Rough,Cutty Young,Hughie Sproat,Dixie and the rest, for probably
the last time together.
Ayr United 0 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
The big match saw Ayr line up with John Sludden and Alan McInally, in
partnership with Eddie Annand, up front as guests. Ayr were first to
show their intentions when good work by Burley found McInally whose
head flick was touched out by Sludden to Robertson whose blistering
shot came off the far post with Mimms clutching at fresh air. Ayr
were never over-awed by their big-spending opponents and competed well
for everything in all quarters of the field. Duncan George in
particular was making sure Blackburn knew he was there with several
heavy challenges in a 10 minute spell which was to cost him dearly in
the second half. Traynor and Burley were having superb matches in
defence and McInally was outstanding leading the Ayr attack. My only
complaint is that the referee (Louis Thow) was so naive it was
ridiculous. He spotted every blatant foul (not bad even for him) but
missed the niggly pushes/shoves/nudges which is so prevalent when you
watch a "superior" team. I said the same when Rangers played at Ayr in
the cup, Hateley fouled EVERY time he challenged in the air and the
Blackburn central defence were exactly the same.
The second half brought about a big change and Blackburn shifted up a
gear and went at Ayr to get a goal and make the score respectable. They
went close on several occasions but found it difficult to get past some
inspired defending by Ayr until the 76th minute when Duncan George was
adjudged to have fouled Andersson and was booked for telling the ref
what he thought of him. From the free-kick, Ripley backed into Howard
so obviously it was unbeleivable but Nigel only succeded in knocking
the ball to Nicky Marker who drilled it home from 6 yards past Spence.
The game drifted to a conclusion and Tim Sherwood picked up the trophy
as winning captain with Ripley (beleive it or not !) winning MOTM.
Ayr; Duncan (sub Spence), Burley, Roberston, McQuilter, Traynor (sub
Howard), George, Kennedy, Sludden, McInally, Burns, Annand.
Blackburn; Mimms,Mays,Le Saux,Sherwood,Marker,Andersson,Ripley,Atkins
Gallagher,Newell,Wilcox (sub Berg)
Kev...
|
49.733 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Aug 02 1993 10:08 | 35 |
|
Stranraer 2 - 1 Ayr United
Ayr concluded their pre-season matches with this miserable defeat
against a rejuvenated Stranraer side. After all Burley's talk about
playing the ball on the ground and no hopeful punts into the box , it
was somewhat surprising to see 10 times more hopeful punts than
measured passes from the midfield. Ayr struggled to find any rhythm and
only the presence of the Messiah (Malky to the ignorant)stopped
Stranraer from opening the scoring early on. Brannigan and Gallagher
had an easy afternoon and must be hoping all strikers they meet this
season are as ineffectual as Eddie Annand and Tommy Walker were. Ayr
had no direct chances on goal in the first 45 and the ref's whistle
brought welcome relief from the onslaught.
Second-half saw Ayr come into it more and with Robertson linking up
with Barry Scott on the left it looked more promising. However ex-Ayr
"favourite" Stevie McIntyre had other ideas and a series of dreadful
challenges by him on Scott ended his interest in the game. Ayr took
the lead in 70 minutes when Robertson's deflected cross was flicked
home at the near post by Jimmy Carse (sub for Annand). With 8 minutes
left Ayr made the most tragic substitution when they replaced the
Messiah (We're not worthy) with that clueless excuse for a player,
Ronnie McQuilter. His first contribution was to slam a cross off his
own crossbar then he set up Stranraer's equaliser when his clearance
found Darren Henderson all alone who hooked the ball into Cammy's left
hand corner of the net. With 2 minutes left, McQuilter was left marking
space as Danny Diver rose to a Henderson cross to head over Cammy for
the winner.
A really bad performance by Ayr with only Burley , Robertson, Shotton
and perhaps Traynor getting pass marks. That should give Burley a few
headaches before the league opener next Saturday.
Kev...
|
49.734 | DAZZA FA KILLIE | PAKORA::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Fri Aug 13 1993 11:43 | 3 |
|
Darren a good KILLIE boy.....
|
49.735 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Fri Aug 13 1993 16:58 | 8 |
|
re. last
Nice interesting note Charlie.....
look forward to reading more of your gems throughout the season !
Del.
|
49.736 | nice one | MASALA::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Fri Aug 13 1993 17:03 | 6 |
| Hi del.
Charlie
|
49.737 | Some hae meat !! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | South side o' Kyle | Mon Aug 16 1993 00:24 | 8 |
|
A 2-1 win over the "mighty" Stirling Albion sees the Ayr creep
into 7th place.A position they will probably not better all season !
Still not a bad weekend when we win and Killie lose,and have to spend
4 hours on a coach to get home from the north ..
HM..
|
49.738 | HOLD ON!... THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING HERE?!? | AYOV17::GLEROY | | Mon Aug 16 1993 13:07 | 5 |
| Just back from holiday, and after reading the extended coverage of
Ayr's pre-season games, I was looking forward to the reports on the
Clydebank and Motherwell games which are conspicuous by their absense!
Gavin.
|
49.739 | Sarky aren't we ? | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Aug 16 1993 13:45 | 9 |
| As I take it you are having a dig at me, I'll have to reply. I too have
been on holiday , but still watched all 3 games played in the last 10
days. A report will follow on all 3 when I get the chance. This means
that you will also have to read about Ayr's 1 league victory so far as
well. Sorry for the inconvenience. Normal service will be resumed as
soon as possible.
The Staff Reporter
|
49.740 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Mon Aug 16 1993 14:23 | 8 |
|
You wanna get your act together.....
I expect these reports in the notes first thing Monday morning!
:-)
Del.
|
49.741 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Aug 17 1993 08:51 | 65 |
|
Clydebank 1 - 0 Ayr United
The first game of the season took Ayr to Kilbowie with a more settled
looking team and more familiar faces than of late. One surprise
omission was that of Hugh Burns ,that multi-talented midfielder or
defender we plundered from the Bayroot Boys. It appeared , from
terracing stories, that he had fallen out with the manager after
getting a roasting for not trying in the reserve friendlies and he
walked out on the club. Good start to his Ayr career. The match itself
was an enjoyable spectacle but I was a bit concerned that Burley's pre-
season hype about a "passing game" was turning out to be just hype as
he continually pumped high balls to our dwarfy strike force of Bryce
and McGivern. Ayr lost a goal 4 minutes after the interval when Eadie's
shot was parried by Duncan as far as Craig Flannigan and he shot into
an empty net. For the last 20 minutes it was all Ayr and Barry Scott
had several chances including two one-on-ones with the keeper which he
must learn how to put away. A McGivern header was cleared off the line
to Shotton who's header hit the bar and bounced over. A McGivern cross
in 85 minutes found Stevie Bryce and his diving header beat Woods at
the far post , only for the goal to be chalked off for offside. A bit
frustrating but signs were that we could string a couple of passes
together if we tried.
Ayr United 0 - 6 Motherwell
This debacle ended Ayr's interest in the League Cup at an early
juncture and although Ayr played 20 minutes with 10 men and Motherwell
cashed in with three goals in that period, it could have been more. In
11 minutes Paul McGrillen waltzed through several challenges and
rounded Duncan before scoring. In 28 minutes Dougie Arnott scored with
a curled shot to the back post as everyone was expecting a pass. And so
it stayed until half-time. After 50 odd minutes a Martin knockdown from
a corner was scooped home by Arnott from 3 yards and the game was over
as a contest. In 70 minutes Arnott was pulled back by Shotton and my
favourite ref Davie Syme sent off the Messiah. May he rot in hell for
his bad judgement. Motherwell introduced old Ayr favourite Ally Graham
or "Super Ally" as their fans were heard to call him and he made an
instant impression when he slipped a measured pass to McGrillen who
dummied our dummy and scored the fourth in 75 minutes. Motherwell
scored two in the last minute when first Graham then Ferguson beat
Duncan from close range. A pitiful performance.
Ayr United 2 - 1 Stirling Albion
Ayr's first home league game brought a welcome victory over a stubborn
Stirling team who fouled continually and had big hoofing defenders who
just thump it the way the are looking. It must be the combination of
the Arsenal strips and the number of Killie rejects who play for them.
Ayr were all over Stirling who only looked dangerous on the break and
looked dodgy in defence. Traynor should have done better in 20 minutes
when twice in a minute he was foiled by the bar and then the keeper
from headers. It took until 49 minutes for Ayr's pressure to turn into
goals when a McGivern cross was turned into his own goal by a Stirling
defender trying to clear. 15 minutes later it was 2-0 when Barry Scott
met another McGivern cross and slotted it past McGeown. Traynor then
hit the post and McGivern had a stonewall penalty denied when his
diving header struck a Stirling hand on the way to goal. However ,
Ayr's failure to kill off Stirling almost cost them dear when slack
marking let Callaghan score in 81 minutes and the defence lost all
cohesion for the remaining time as wave after wave of Stirling attacks
were desperately cleared. Still, 2 points, musn't grumble.
|
49.742 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Aug 24 1993 02:58 | 56 |
|
Clyde 0 - 1 Ayr United
This result saw Ayr move into 4th spot in the league and get the season
off to a reasonable start for a change. After finding our way from the
home section of the stand at Douglas Park (thanks for the tickets again
Davie !) we sat and basked in the bright sunshine behind the goal in an
atmosphere not unlike that of a public park , only not quite as busy.
The gypsy nomads known as the "Bully Wee" supporters were outnumbered
perhaps 3 to 2 and each appeared to have his own personal crush-barrier
to stand against.
The match started with Ayr playing up the steep slope in the first half
but it was Clyde who were more evident as the Ayr rearguard had to look
lively on several occasions to clear from Clarke and Sludden. Young
Paul Ronald on the right-wing for Clyde had a good first half , except
for his amateur dramatics when tackled by Sammy and he will no doubt
find a better setting for his talents than the deserted terracings of
Hamilton (or Cumbernauld when they get there). The referee, a Mr O'Hare
from Glenboig , had one of those matches you just want to forget. He
managed to book 6 players in what was scarcely a dirty game. First was
McQuilter for stupidly kicking the ball away after a foul had been
given. Then McGivern for the aforementioned tackle on Ronald and Neil
McNab quickly followed for a foul on Sludden , all these coming inside
28 minutes. Clyde had Ayr under the cosh for long periods and only
inches stopped Steve Clarke from opening the scoring , after an
intelligent ball from Sludden flew just past his inrushing boot at the
back post. However, just when it looked like half-time would arrive at
0-0, up popped Stevie Bryce to head a tremendous goal from a Burley
cross. He sent it high and looping over the despairing hands of Fridge
in the Clyde goal in 44 minutes. Ayr were almost caught cold when
McQuilter could only head a Tennant cross as far as McCarron whose shot
hit the side netting with Cammy hopelessly beaten.
The second half started with Ayr more in evidence as an attacking force
as Burns and Burley and Robertson and Scott linked up well on the
flanks. McFarlane became the first Clyde name in the book when a
two-footed assault on Barry Scott left the Ayr number 11 needing
treatment for an ankle knock. After he had been booked he ran into his
place in defence while Barry was attended to and he got a fair amount
of abuse from the Ayr support behind his goal. He replied with a cheeky
grin and various gestures. Sammy McGivern was then asked to mete out
some retribution with the cry of "SAMMY, NUMBER 2 !!" He responded with
a thumbs-up and a shout which consisted mainly of his opinion that the
Clyde captain was not worth the hassle and that he indulged in various
forms of personal abuse as well. All good fun, but don't take the wife
and kids ! The Clyde number 5 quickly followed into the book as the ref
appeared to wish to even up the Yellow cards if not the goals, but late
sub Davie Kennedy put the bookings beyond Clyde's reach when he was
cautioned in the last couple of minutes for a foul on Tennant.
A happy Ayr support (all of 450 approx) left a minute later when the
ref brought the game to an end with the score still 1-0 for the Super
U's...
Kev...
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49.743 | You heard it here first....... | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Aug 24 1993 04:10 | 14 |
| According to the Daily Record, Ayr are attempting to sign 2 players.
I can exclusively reveal their identities are;
Jim Beattie, ex-St Mirren Under-21 internationalist currently in
Finland, who was a member of the Scotland Under-16 World Cup team which
lost in the final a couple of years ago
and
Keith Bertschin ex-Norwich City amongst others. A tall centre-forward
currently playing non-league in England.
The Reporter....
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49.744 | Ayr 0 Dumbarton 1 | BUSSTP::DREES | | Sun Aug 29 1993 11:52 | 13 |
|
Went to my first game of the season yesterday.
Wish I hadn't bothered.
That'll be the last fiver I spend on that crap this season.
I reckon Burley's had his chance. Utd are no better now than the were
a couple of seasons ago. Very dissapointing.
Del.
|
49.745 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Sep 01 1993 13:00 | 9 |
|
According to todays paper.....Neil McNab is on his way after only 2
months at Somerset.
Another successfully Burley signing!!!....surprised he lasted that
long. On the one occasion I saw him he was shocking. Hopefully
Burley will be the next to go.
Disillusioned Del.
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49.746 | Justice was done at the end of the day | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Sep 01 1993 18:21 | 40 |
|
Ayr United 0 - 1 Dumbarton
Ayr slumped to their first home league defeat of the season against
the Sons on Saturday. Gordon Mair made his return from injury and
almost made it an explosive start when he cut in from the unfamiliar
right-wing position and smashed a 25 yard shot off the crossbar in the
second minute. That, however, was one of the few occasions when Ayr
were dangerous and the home support had to endure a dour match
enlivened only by Neil McNab's attempts at finding an Ayr player with a
pass, he was absolutely shocking and it has come as no surprise to me
to hear that he is leaving Ayr after only 8 games. He blames the
travelling from his home in Manchester, I blame his inept performances
and the ensuing terracing abuse he suffered. It's a sad end to a long
career but he really is well past it. The match never really got
started and Dumbarton were seldom seen attacking, seeming more content
to soak up pressure and attempt to hit on the break. After the break,
Dumbarton hit Ayr with a quick goal and it proved to be the winner.
Meechan eluded new signing Beattie on the right wing and his cross was
met by Mooney who powered a great diving header past the helpless
Duncan. Ayr to their credit took the game to the Sons and were unlucky
on several occasions, most notably a string of tremendous saves from
McFarlane in the Dumbarton goal, mainly from Traynor headers. With time
running out , Ayr were awarded a penalty when John Traynor dived in the
box with no-one near him. It was such a blatant dive it was
unbeleivable that the myopic-man-in-black pointed at the spot, however
Sammy McGivern had the perfect chance to open his account and save a
point for Ayr. His spotkick was high and to the keepers left but
somehow McFarlane made it across to brilliantly touch it round a post
and deny Ayr a point they scarcely deserved. All in all a crap
performance and Mr Burley has some thinking to do before his lambs are
put to the slaughter at St Mirren Park on Saturday. Perhaps the loss
(or should it be gain ?) of McNab will mean a central midfield role for
Hugh Burns , who did not feature against Dumbarton, or it may mean the
return of Duncan George.
The reserves lost 3-4 at home on Monday to Clydebank. Sweeney,Carse
and Walker scored.
Kev......
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49.747 | Super Sammy breaks his duck.... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Sep 07 1993 13:30 | 44 |
|
St Mirren 0 - 1 Ayr United
(McGivern 87mins)
As expected Ayr had a few changes in personnel for this match. Shotton
had an ankle injury, Neil McNab had gone home to Manchester and Stevie
Bryce had a recurrence of his thigh knock so it was the following line
up which took the field in sun-drenched Paisley;
Duncan,Burley,Robertson,Traynor,McQuilter,George,Mair,Walker,McGivern
Burns and Scott Subs Spence,Howard and Sweeney.
Ayr started well and were causing the makeshift Buddies defence all
sorts of problems with probing runs from Scott and tireless running
from Sammy up front. In defence the improving McQuilter was well on top
in his battle with Barry Lavety and Robertson coped well with McGrotty
while Burley closed down Elliot. The ref was keeping a tight hold on
proceedings and was standing no nonsense , booking McWhirter for a
crude challenge on Burns after he had released the ball. This was to
cost McWhirter dearly as 5 minutes before halftime he was sent off for
dissent after intervening while the ref was booking Fullarton of
saints, who had struck Tommy Walker during a scramble for the ball at a
corner. Ayr made the extra man tell and were in control for the rest of
the first-half although they had Duncan to thank for three excellent
saves while the teams were still equal in number.
Early in the second half, Ronnie McQuilter was ordered off for what the
ref judged to be a professional foul although the player in question
did appear to be going away from the goal and contact appeared to be
minimal to say the least. However this levelled the teams again and gave
Saints some heart and they went at Ayr with a vengeance. The ref
continued to stamp his name all over the game and booked a further 3
players before Ayr won a corner with 3 minutes to go. Burns took it and
his driven corner was met at full speed by Sammy McGivern at the back
post and he bulleted a header past the helpless Money. Did he celebrate
or what ? He was eventually caught by his fellow players about the
halfway line after doing a victory samba from the penalty area. Mean-
while, Hugh Burns was retreiving the ball from the goal. He ran to the
centre-circle and raising the ball toward the St Mirren support, he
kissed it before placing it on the spot. Ayr played out the remaining
time well on top although we had Gordon Mair at left-back and he was
knackered and Tommy Walker who had done nowt all afternoon, was worse
than useless up front. 2 very welcome points which leaves us in 5th
place in the league.
Kev....
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49.748 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Thu Sep 09 1993 21:30 | 14 |
|
Got this confirmed from the man in the know......
Ayr today signed Alan Moore from St Johnstone and Ian Ferguson from
Motherwell.
A bit out of the blue this.....but it's the boost the club and
especially the supporters need. Although both players have struggled
to secure regular first team places in the Premier league they should
hopefully "stick out" in the 1st Div.
Now all we have to do is win away at Brechin on saturday!
Del.
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49.749 | I'll never listen to Dinger Bell again ! | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Sep 10 1993 08:17 | 6 |
| The man in the know appears to know nowt as today's Daily Record has
us signing Colin "Louganis" McGlashan from Plastic Whistle for 25K.
A wee cheat if there was one and another dwarf. Ho hum. Season ends
here.
Kev...
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49.750 | Who's next ????? | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | theyre on the park at Palmerston | Fri Sep 10 1993 08:43 | 10 |
|
Kev, Less than chuffed with the news today another small
striker is all we need,I believe McGlashen stands a towering 5ft 6in.
The fact that we paid 25K for him only makes it worse as we could
have got Mark McWalter or Roddy Grant for nothing at the start of the
season . Lambie has stuffed us again !! He signs Grant for nowt and
then sell us a wee pudin for 25K... Oh dear !!!
HM...
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49.751 | Bring back Dobbin... | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Fri Sep 10 1993 11:22 | 13 |
|
Del, time to eat humble pie. You should check your "facts" before
setting yourself up for a slagging!!
As for the confirmed signing, I reckon Burley has a touch of the
"Mad Ally" football management syndrome ie sign as many tiny tots as
possible and try to make a team out of them. I think we'll have a long
season ahead of us, trying to avoid the "drop" to the new 2nd or 3rd
division or whatever it's called. Not that I'll be wasting much money
going to see them.
Danny.
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49.752 | Galloping BS award goes to Dinger. | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Sep 10 1993 12:45 | 7 |
| Danny I suppose I should take part of the blame for the Moore/Ferguson
story. I was told by the same source as Del-boy and he phoned me to
confirm it before entering the note. Needless to say the "source" will
be severely reprimanded when he comes in for backshift today....
Kev.....
|
49.753 | cancel that away win | BUSSTP::DREES | | Fri Sep 10 1993 15:18 | 7 |
|
Cheers Kev....I appreciate the backing up. The source of the duff
info will have to be questioned!
Sorry boys....it did sound too good to be true.
Del.
|
49.754 | 'Jack' Bell , short for 'Jackanory' | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Sep 10 1993 15:31 | 12 |
| Del,
rest assured that the aforementioned "source" has been suitably
disciplined (ooo err). He now claims he was told the information by
a certain other member of Digitals staff who could perhaps,occasionally
play for the super U's now and again, if you get my drift. Sounds like
the player saw it as an ideal opportunity to rip the pi$h out the big
man.
However, we are still trying to sign *someone* before tomorrows game
Kev...
|
49.755 | Bring on the Bairns ! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | theyre on the park at Palmerston | Sat Sep 11 1993 18:28 | 10 |
|
Result: Brechin City 0 Ayr Utd 2
McGlashan(I always said he could play ;-)
Howard
SQHHM..
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49.756 | WHERE DID WE GET THE MONEY?? | AYOV14::FHEWITSON | AYR AYR SUPER AYR | Mon Sep 13 1993 02:29 | 20 |
|
The latest bit of scoop concerning who GB is going to sign is
JOHN MILLER of the jam tarts
heard at GLEBE PARK
COULD THIS BE TRUE??????
ANYBODY HEARD ANY OTHER NAMES
FIN.....
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49.757 | Crash, bang, wallop | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Tue Sep 14 1993 22:38 | 9 |
|
Oh dear, gubbed 3-0 by Falkirk.
There goes Scotlands best defensive record in 1 game.
It was too good to last.
Danny.
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49.758 | Beaten by Bairns | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Sep 15 1993 02:28 | 59 |
|
Brechin City 0 - 2 Ayr United Att 508
Ayr best performance of the season so far against the worst opposition.
Lining up as follows ; Duncan,Robertson,Beattie,Howard,Traynor,George,
Mair,McGlashan,McGivern,Burns,Scott Subs Burley,Walker,Spence, Ayr took
the game to city from the word go and were unfortunate not to score 3
or 4 more. McGlashan was his usual self, buzzing around the penalty box
and looking for chances to dive etc. and it was no surprise when he
opened the scoring in 37 minutes when a Burns corner was met at the
back post by McGivern who nodded down for 'Dibble' to score on his
debut from about 4 yards. City rallied after the break and had a 10
minute spell of pressure before Ayr settled back into their rhythm and
asserted themselves on the game. They should have had a penalty when
McGlashan was fouled while in the act of shooting but the ref waved
play on. Barry Scott had his jersey pulled in the area a few minutes
later and the ref, 10 yards away, waved play on again, strange to say
the least. Burns was booked for telling the ref what a blind useless
piece of flesh he was. Ayr finally got the killer goal in 77 minutes
when a repeat performance involving a Traynor knockdown from a Burns
corner saw Nigel Howard poke the ball home from 2 yards for his first
ever goal for the team. A good performance and a happy 150 mile trip
home.
Ayr United 0 - 3 Falkirk Att 2600
Ayr worst performance of the season against the best opposition etc etc
Ayr's dismal home form continued with a flatteringly low 3-0 reverse
last night. Ayr were missing Sam McGivern from Saturday's lineup
through a mysterious injury and Beattie was dropped allowing Burley to
return to the right back with Robbo moving to left back and Walker
coming in up front. Falkirk served notice of thir intentions early on
when Drinkell was foiled by an excellent double save by Duncan in the
first minute. The goal was not long in coming however when a free-kick
was floated into the box and McLaughlin flicked it over the advancing
keeper in 7 minutes. Duffy had the ball in the net again from a similar
move minutes later but the linesman spotted some infringement which
ruled it out. Cadette scored in 19 minutes when Howard allowed a
through ball to pass him and left the Falkirk striker with the easiest
of chances. Ayr were really under the rack now and some furious
defending was required to keep the score to 2-0 at half-time.
Ayr restarted with McQuilter on for George and Mair at left back with
Traynor moving into midfield and Burley sweeping behind the defence.
This formation held out until the 70th minute when McCall did what he
is best at and dived in the area after a non-existant tackle from Mair
and a penalty was awarded which Eddie May duly converted. Time was
played out and the teams left the park to a mixture of boos,jeers and
cheers. Np prizes for working out what came from who.
It was obvious from the very start of the game that Ayr did not have
the strike force to warrant a high ball being played into the box but
they persisted with it for 90 minutes without a single chance being
created. Burley appears to be set on playing this way so why sell both
our big strikers and sign dwarves ? The man is rapidly losing
popularity at Somerset and MUST sign a quality midfielder and a tall
striker or this is going to be one long season for him.
Kev...
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49.759 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Sep 15 1993 11:42 | 13 |
|
That's 2 games I've been to...both have ended in defeat and I've
yet to see Ayr score. Falkirk could have scored at will had they not
taken the foot of the gas after about 20 mins. The game was all over
midway thru' the first half!
IMO Burley has had his chance. The team is no better now than it was
2 years ago. I know money is tight and he's limited to the number
of quality players he can sign but the players we already have should
be able to put up a better, more spirited peformance than they did last
night.
Del.
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49.760 | Downhill all the way | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Wed Sep 15 1993 19:19 | 17 |
|
Kev, having read a few match reports both here and in newspapers,
it seems to me that Burley is trying to convert Mair from a winger/
midfielder to a full-back. Why? The guy was crap whenever I saw him
play last season, why don't Ayr just punt him?
Lack of money, lack of support(me included), lack of interest at
Somerset is pretty low just now. I reckon it's just a matter of time
before Burley is horsed and the club returns to part-time football
and many more seasons spent among the dross in the lower leagues of
Scottish football. And to think, Ayr turned down David Murray because
they were "going places" and didn't need his cash investment. I wonder
what the muppets are thinking now. Maybe their ensconsed in the funny
farm at the bottom of the Ailsa Brae.
Danny.
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49.761 | Help - footballers wanted ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Sep 16 1993 02:07 | 85 |
| Mair has been used as a left back only in emergencies. At Paisley ,it
was due to McQuilter being sent off and he was the only naturally left
footed player left apart from Barry Scott, on Tuesday night it was
because we were being shafted in all departments of the defence and we
pulled Robbo over to right back with Burley sweeping. Incidentally, it
was Mair's lack of defensive knowledge which cost a penalty when he was
slow to tackle McCall who exploited the minimal contact which was made.
I can only see Ayr as a Second Division side after this season, they do
not have the resources to stay in the First and with 5 teams going down
we may be one league below Stranraer for the first time in our history.
We had to hope that a few of the other mediocre clubs became detached
at an early stage of this season and that we had a reasonable start but
if you check the table, it's St Mirren,Dunfermline,Hamilton and Morton
who had the bad starts and I would expect all of them to finish above
Ayr come May 94. We have had a much better start than last season, 4
wins from 7 games against 1 win from 8 games last year but we are
struggling most weeks to field a team and it has got so bad that I read
in the paper that Walker will not be allowed to leave for Stranraer
until cover is in place. What is going on ? Is there some Souness-like
training taking place ? Already we have Kennedy,Shotton,Bryce,Hood
Agnew,George injured and other players have missed games. We only have
4 ever-present players this season in 7 games. When we won promotion in
87-88 we had 5 ever-present all season. What is going on ??
Of the players we have I would punt several;
Cammy Duncan - I have seen him more than anyone and he just doesn't
fill me with confidence. Good for reflex saves, poor at crosses.
We could get money for him from someone who hadn't seen him, ever.
George Burley - causes untold confusion with his performances, wants to
take all corners, free-kicks,throw-ins and gets caught out of position
too often. A brilliant player in his day, but that was many days ago.
Ronnie McQuilter - What did we sign him for ? He is clueless and a big
hoofer who punts it where his looking. Blatant fouls are his speciality
Jimmy Carse - A dwarf who gets blown about in strong winds. Good
reserve player but will never make it in the first team.
Nigel Howard - Anyone who saw the game against Falkirk will know why
he's on the list. Unconvincing , unsure , needs Shotton around him.
Duncan George - a less creative midfielder I couldn't name. Crunching
tackler but needs to learn to put his foot on the ball and LOOK for
a teammate once in a while.
Tommy Walker - This guy is beyond words,the most vastly over-rated
player ever to don the black and white.
Stevie Bryce - workrate is shocking, slow, poor control, scores the odd
goal to retain place in line-up.
Gordon Mair - or 'Nightmair' , 'Casper' and other such names. At 35 he
is past it. Another who was good in his day. Has the odd good game but
really is just a squad man now.
Jim Beattie - I expected better of an U-21 cap. VERY one-footed and not
good under pressure. Being subbed at Brechin says it all.
Garry Agnew - will never be the player he was, if he ever gets fit. A
sad situation but we must plan without him
Already we have used 19 players and are still no nearer a settled team.
(We have used 25 players if you count friendlies)
Of the current squad I would keep;
Robertson , Traynor , Shotton , Hood , Kennedy , McGivern , McGlashan
Burns , Scott , Spence and the YT boys Sweeney,Fulton,Clarke and
McClory.
Ayr are so naive it is unbeleivable, we sell 2 big strikers and get 2
wee strikers in swap returns, however we play the same type of game.
Cammy punts it up the park, Sammy and Stevie get beaten in the air and
the opposition have the ball. Start again. How many times do you see
Duncan throwing the ball out to someone ? NIL ! How many goals did Ayr
score from Watson throwouts to Templeton and Cowell etc ? 20 ? 40 ?
There is no natural skill (except for Scott and he's a bit raw yet)
We should spend some cash and get a midfielder who can pass to his own
team and a striker who is tall enough to bump his head on the crossbar.
Kev....
|
49.762 | 2 points at Hamilton if Sammy plays !! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | theyre on the park at Palmerston | Thu Sep 16 1993 21:21 | 39 |
|
Kev, Okay,the Falkirk game was one to forget,infact it was
very like the 3-0 ,game against Killie at Somerset when we fell apart
2 or 3 years ago. But don't you think you are letting the heart rule
the head.Yes we did get spanked for very careless marking,yes Falkirk
looked on a diferant planet fron us and yes once again the bosses
tactics looked a bit poor..
However they have some 26 pros to choose from while we
have around 11,we also had key players missing ie,Hood,Bryce,McGivern
and most importantly Shotton .I feel if he had been playing the defence
would have been much more organised and would not have lost the all
important first goal which shook us to the core .Yehh we might have
still lost the game but at least the Bairns would have known they were
in a game.
Ayr quite clearly will not win the league that will be
down to the Bairns and the Diamonds however I really don't think we
will go down,the partnership of McGivern and McGlashen will I think be
too good for the Stirlings and the Brechins of the league .If you were
to continue your who's who of donkeys these teams could throw dozens of
names into the hat .
I do agree with you on one thing however,money will need
to be spent on the pool in the near future,preferably in the midfield
area where we lack pace and ideas .I hear we were after Millar of
Hearts who has a reputation of a "hard player" and weighs in at around
12st 7lbs .Unfortunatlly he is on around 900 pounds a week plus a house
in Edinburgh so he gave us a massive knock back,can we blame him. I
would imagine that Burley will now go after a similar style player from
a smaller team, maybe Motherwell for a change .
Your other point about the injuries:Hood picked up his
while on Scotland duty in France,McGivern was missing due to "personal
reasons" and may miss the Hamilton game,Shotton is around 37 years old
he will take longer to recover than he used to .The rest,,well I do
agree I cant remember Ayr ever having so many out .
Walker signed for Ayr in July 87 and has done nothing since!
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49.763 | 8*) | KIRKTN::JJACK | | Fri Sep 17 1993 03:17 | 11 |
| << Unfortunately, he is on around 900 pounds a week plus a house
in Edinburgh so he gave us a massive knock back,can we blame him. I
would imagine that Burley will now go after a similar style player from
a smaller team, maybe Motherwell for a change >>
^^^^^^^^^^
But Sal, surely Motherwell are a bigger club than Hearts ?
They're top of the league & have won a trophy this decade, whilst the
Gorgie boys haven't done anything for years. They've even got a
better stadium than Hearts !
|
49.764 | Big fash will git you... | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Can I sweep the floor,this week | Fri Sep 17 1993 03:56 | 7 |
| RE-1....
:-)
I'm no taking the bait
SQF Jambo #1
|
49.765 | lost 5 in 2 games !!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | theyre on the park at Palmerston | Sat Sep 18 1993 20:38 | 8 |
|
Hamilton Accies 2 Ayr United 1
McGivern
SQFHM..
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49.766 | from one bad team to another | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Sep 21 1993 18:56 | 7 |
|
In one of todays dailys there's a paragraph stating that Burley
is close to securing the signing of John Millar from Hearts.
I'll believe it when he's in the black and white!
Del.
|
49.767 | the SUN'S a week late | AYOV17::FHEWITSON | AYR AYR SUPER AYR | Tue Sep 21 1993 19:22 | 13 |
| re 766
del,
please read no .756
i heard that GB was trying to sign him,but seemingly he's on 400pds per
wk in the JAMBO'S reserves,so he decided to stay put at TYNECASTLE
FIn.............
|
49.768 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Sep 21 1993 20:38 | 7 |
|
Read your note ok.....
the way the story read in todays paper, it looks as if Burley is still
trying. Time will tell.
Del.
|
49.769 | John Millar ? I doubt it , but..... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Sep 21 1993 22:24 | 22 |
| It doesn't matter who we sign, he'll get dragged down to the same level
as the rest of them within a short space of time. On Saturday at
Hamilton there was only one man trying and worthy of a jersey and that
was McGivern. The rest were atrocious and if they all showed the
commitment and effort that Sammy does we would have a realistic chance
of staying in Division 1 for next season.
Sal, I think it is more you letting the heart rule the head than me. I
have seen Ayr in EVERY game this season and what I see does not impress
me. I don't ask for every player to ooze skill and class , but I would
like them to TRY ! As for Burley, his tactics are terrible. 10 minutes
to go on Saturday, we're 2-1 down and he brings on Mair to play at
left-back, IN A 5 MAN DEFENCE ! Burns couldn't find his backside with
both hands let alone an Ayr shirt with a pass. He got all the plaudits
for "setting up" the goal, but it was ANOTHER miss-hit cross into the
box, not intended for McGivern , which Sammy eventually scored with.
There is little or no enjoyment in watching Burley's style of football
and if we were not comparing him to a manager like McLeod, we would be
shouting for his head by now. Ayr are not good enough for next year's
First Division and that's OBVIOUS.
Kev...
|
49.770 | Roll the dice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Tue Sep 21 1993 23:17 | 27 |
| Kev,
While I agree that you have seen more Utd games in recent seasons
than most I disagree with your opinion of impending doom.There are 5
clubs who will face the drop at the end of the season and at this early
stage in the season I can name 4 of them,Brechin,Dumbarton,Clyde and
Stirling ..The 5th slot is any ones guess,but in my opinion the rest
are just as poor as us with the exception of Airdrie and Falikirk.
I do agree the managers tactics have been a little on the dozy side
at times in the last season or so particularly when he stood back and
watched all those players going to Ireland for nowt.They all could have
done a job for us .
However EVERONE get injury problems, at the moment we have serious
injury problems,as I have stressed before,out are Hood (U21's) Shotton
(club captain) and Stevie Bryce .All important players,we are still in
the hunt for a replacement for McNab,McGivern has missed games and we
have just signed McGlashan.So all in all we have been as weak as we
will ever be .In this space of time we have gained 8 points from a
possible 16 and are sitting 6th in the table .Not so bad really
considering.
Later in the season the teams I have mentioned above will experiance
these same problems as we have .Time will tell how they deal with them.
P.s Kev I am just as disapointed in the direction our club is moving
in as you are,we both know that only massive investment will bring what
we want,we both also know that will not happen .So here we are stuck in
the middle between being a good part time club or a poor fulltime club.
What would you recomend ? Sack Burley and what ????????????????????
|
49.771 | Millar does as expected | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Sep 23 1993 16:56 | 24 |
| According to yesterday's Post, Hood came through a reserve game at
Lesser Hampden on Monday night and could be OK for Saturday, Shotton
should play as well and Bryce may be fit for Tuesday's home game
against the bottom dwellers from Greenock.
On the signing front, John Millar has given us a massive knock back so
we are concentrating our efforts on signing...
wait for it....
the one and only...
Vinnie Moore.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Excuse me while my sides split
with hilarity. Another 29 year-old who can't even get a game with
Stirling Albion. Burley's trying to outdo the Beirut Boys as "Dad's
Army of Ayrshire" Speaking of Beirut, the Ayrshire Cup Final is on
October the 12th at Rugby_Tackle Park.
oh and the Moore signing is not definite as East Fife are also in
contention to sign him.
Kev....
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49.772 | Allez les hoops | VERVAN::GORDON | Ludere Causa Ludendi | Thu Sep 23 1993 18:11 | 8 |
| Kevin,
You didn't mention that Queen's Park won that particular reserve game
on Monday night!
David.
:-))
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49.773 | We'll bowl you over at Somerset... | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Sep 23 1993 19:27 | 10 |
| re last
Sorry David,
The spiders did indeed win the match by 1 goal to nil, a
bowler-hatted chappy by the name of Ferguson notching the all-important
score. From what I can gather, it was an Ayr side made up of Spence,
Hood and about 9 trialists and youngsters.
Kev...
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49.774 | Shotton returns !!!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Fri Sep 24 1993 14:26 | 10 |
|
Re 771. What a great signing Vinnie would be (NOT).Tell me we aren't
offering cash for this chump !!!!!!!
SQFHM..
p.s Anyone know how much we offered Hearts for Millar ?
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49.775 | And Del called him Dobin!!!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Fri Sep 24 1993 16:59 | 8 |
|
Rumour has it that Raith's Jimmy Nichol has just paid Motherwell
120K for ex Ayr striker Ally Graham .Considering that Motherwell only
paid us around 50K for him in Feb.it looks as if wee Tommy McLean has
stuffed us again !!!!
SQFHM..
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49.776 | Agnew forced to quit!! | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Tue Sep 28 1993 20:02 | 14 |
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Bad news time, Gary Agnew has been forced to quit football following
2 operations for a pelvic injury.
Agnew was Burley's best signing and a player who was being watched
by several bigger clubs prior to his injury last season. A free
transfer from the Beruit Boys a couple of seasons ago, he became a
fans favourite with his long range free kicks and shooting. His best
moment was his goal against the Baghdad Boys at Rugby Park during the
new-year game in 1992.
Danny.
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49.777 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Sep 29 1993 12:38 | 39 |
|
I know I keep saying I won't be back but I was persuaded to go last
night. After seeing my first United goal of the season, courtesy of
Vinnie Moore in the 6th minute, I thought I might see a reasonable
performance......wrong!
At the back we we're shocking. Mair and McQuilter will simply not do.
Traynor looked unfit and Shotton had a terrible game even by his poor
standards. Duncan was again clueless at cross balls and cost us the 2nd
goal. Robertson was the only one at the back to gain pass marks with
another solid performance.
In the middle of the park we're lost. Burns never put a tackle in
and never found a Black and White jersey with a pass. Although Moore
scored and did show some nice touches he is overweight and far from
fit. He was nackered after 20 mins. I've yet to decide we're Barry
Scott was playing, subbed at half-time says it all.
The boys up front must be totally pissed off. McGivern,McGlashan and
Bryce(when he came on) all have the ability to score goals but they
ain't getting the service.
Last night's overall display was about the worst I've seen. We should
never have scraped a draw, Morton's poor finishing cost them. Burley
has to take the blame. I know he has no cash but most of the players
playing last night we're brought to the club by him. His tactics
are terrible. How can you punt the ball to a forward line that averages
5ft 4! I don't think the ball was played on the deck, thru' the middle
of the park, once last night.
2 years on from McLeod and the team is no better, maybe worse. The two
elements needed to get out of the 1st Div are a little ability and a
lot of dig......we have none of either.
Relegation is a big possibility.
Del.
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49.778 | OWN GOAL? | AYOV17::GLEROY | | Wed Sep 29 1993 12:52 | 6 |
| Del,
I heard that Ayr's second was a peach of an own goal. How did you see
it?
Gavin
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49.779 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Sep 29 1993 13:50 | 8 |
|
Best og I've seen in a long time.
Bryce went on a wee mazzzzy, cut inside the defender, and hit a low shot
which Wylie had covered. Doak decided to try and clear it, only for it
to spin off the top of his foot leaving the keeper stranded. Shame!
Del.
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49.780 | Burley should pack it in NOW ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Sep 29 1993 14:38 | 49 |
| I can only echo what Delboy has already entered. We were shocking. I
cant understand why we have only lost 11 goals in 10 games as we have a
really crap defence at the moment. Garry Agnew has had to pack in so
now we have no recognised left-back. Gordon Mair has played there
recently but is not up to the task. Shotton was a shadow of himself
last night and did not look fit. He was booked again last night for
pulling a jersey and was perhaps lucky not to take a walk. McQuilter is
clueless. Traynor couldn't jump and only Robertson had a game worth
mentioning. I have saved the worst to last however, Cammy Duncan ,
Barry Scott and Hugh Burns. 3 players who should be utterly ashamed of
their performances last night. Cammy was suspect at *every* cross ball
and cost both goals. The first a corner which came over head high and
he allowed it to pass over his head where Scott could do no better than
divert it into the goal at the back post. The second was a cross which
beat him across his front from 3 yards. A real goalkeeper should
command his area, not sit back like a wee nancy and make the odd reflex
save. He did make two excellent stops, the first from a header by
McEwan , the second was a minute after they went 2-1 up when he was
faced by no less than 3 Morton forwards only to smother the first shot,
but these were outweighed by the juvenile errors he made during the
rest of the game. Spence should play on Saturday, just to let Cammy
know he isn't indispensible. Scott was neither in midfield or attack,
he never won a tackle and never threatened the Morton goal, what did he
do ? Nowt. Burns , ah now I should be careful here as I could start a
riot in already war-torn Beirut or worse still get my note hidden but I
will say that it has crossed my mind that he is some sort of sick joke
played on us by Kilmarnock. To kick the ball out the park, inside the
Morton penalty area, while unchallenged, and with time to spare was
unforgiveable. I don't care how 'upset' he looked when he did it , it
was still terrible. He contributed nothing to the game , an empty
jersey.
Vinnie Moore did show a little sparkle early on but faded/lost interest
when he realised the game plan was "hoof it up the park and chase it".
He took his goal very well. Made a few good passes. When he is fit he
will get better, but 12K may be a bit much (Stirling wanted 20K !!)
McGlashan and McGivern never gave up trying but service was next to
non-existant. Bryce fought hard for the face-saving goal and he and
Sammy looked quite desperate when they were appealing for the fans to
get behind the team. There are too many empty headed woodentops among
the home support. In the last two weeks I've heard unbeleivable
critcism of Dibble and Sammy from people who could barely tell you the
names of the players let alone the road to any away ground.
It's time for change. Let's start with Burley,Duncan,Burns and anyone
else who will not put in enough effort.
Kev...
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49.781 | 3 defeats...12 goals conceeded! | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Sep 29 1993 14:50 | 7 |
|
Chaps...I've just had a look at the fixture list. The next 3 games
are Airdrie (a), Clydebank (h) and Falkirk (a).
Look for the goals against column to take a bit of a pounding.
Del.
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49.782 | Railway enders greetin again!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Fri Oct 01 1993 00:56 | 34 |
| Del/Kev,
Lads,lads,lads please pull up your cot sides and dry your eyes,
these messages of doom and gloom are out of order .Okay I wasn't at our
last 2 home games against the Pars and the Ton but we came through the
games and got two points and moved up the table to 5th place !! This is
not so bad !!! This season is all about where you finish noy how you
play.
I would like to pick you up on a few of your points,in the last
couple of notes I have noticed that Shotton and Duncan have been
getting some stick .Lets never forget that these two and Robo over the
last season have turned our defence into one of the best in our league.
Without this trio we would have went down last year,end of story.You
replace these 3 with the clowns that McLeod sent out to loose by 5or 6
goals at places like Kilbowie,Broomfield and Firhill and we would sink
like a brick.
Burley's job with this club is damage limitation,he was brought to
a club broken and on its knee's and has partially turned it round he
has built a team for the grand amount of 80K while our cousins from
Gotham have spent over 675K building their current squad .His team can
be classed as an average 1st div team .In the market he has spent 80K
and brought in 60K for a player you all hated and a futher 150K for a
18 year old who played 9 games and never even picked up a wage from our
club.Not bad,,,I would think .
To sum up,I think Burley is still a novice in managerial matters
but he will improve as time goes by .If he is given some money to spend
and fails then I will put my hands up and agree its time to change
direction. Until then behave !!!!!
BTW ...Do any of you have any replacements in mind ????
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49.783 | Part timers telling ME to behave ? Get real | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Oct 01 1993 08:48 | 82 |
| >>================================================================================
>>Note 49.782 Ayr United FC 782 of 782
>>PAKORA::GMCDONALD "Theyre on the park at Palmerston" 34 lines 30-SEP-1993 23:56
>> -< Railway enders greetin again!!!! >-
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Del/Kev,
>> Lads,lads,lads please pull up your cot sides and dry your eyes,
>> these messages of doom and gloom are out of order .Okay I wasn't at our
>> last 2 home games against the Pars and the Ton but we came through the
>> games and got two points and moved up the table to 5th place !! This is
>> not so bad !!! This season is all about where you finish noy how you
>> play.
Sal, If you had been at these games you would still be wondering HOW we
escaped with a point in each. Burley has gone on record here stating
that the point on Saturday was WON, not a point dropped. After
Tuesday's match he said that some of the defending was 'Juvenile' and
that Ayr had a 'very shaky defence' at the moment. 5th place is not
realistic. Our recent form is terrible, 2 draws and 2 defeats, only one
of these teams was above Ayr in the league.
>> I would like to pick you up on a few of your points,in the last
>> couple of notes I have noticed that Shotton and Duncan have been
>> getting some stick .Lets never forget that these two and Robo over the
>> last season have turned our defence into one of the best in our league.
>> Without this trio we would have went down last year,end of story.You
>> replace these 3 with the clowns that McLeod sent out to loose by 5or 6
>> goals at places like Kilbowie,Broomfield and Firhill and we would sink
>> like a brick.
This is precisely the mentality which Ally McLeod suffered from. If a
player ever had a good game for the team, play him forever, no matter
how bad his current form is. This is nonsense ! I did not criticise
Robertson, he gives 100% and his errors are not down to lack of effort
or knowledge. Shotton is not fit and I said that. Duncan is a different
story - what does a player have to do before YOU drop him. I reckon I
could have stopped the first goal on Tuesday and for long periods the
net led an *extremely* charmed life. I would play Spence for a couple
of games as Cammy's confidence is suffering. He looked totally out of
his depth against an average Morton side.
>> Burley's job with this club is damage limitation,he was brought to
>> a club broken and on its knee's and has partially turned it round he
>> has built a team for the grand amount of 80K while our cousins from
>> Gotham have spent over 675K building their current squad .His team can
>> be classed as an average 1st div team .In the market he has spent 80K
>> and brought in 60K for a player you all hated and a futher 150K for a
>> 18 year old who played 9 games and never even picked up a wage from our
>> club.Not bad,,,I would think .
Yes and as well as the above, he sold 2 big strikers and bought 3
dwarves, but continues to play the high ball game. He spouts of in the
press about 'midfield passing game','entertaining football' and the
like and none of it has materialised. The midfield might as well not be
there as the only time they see the ball is as flies over their heads
in one or other direction.
>> To sum up,I think Burley is still a novice in managerial matters
>> but he will improve as time goes by .If he is given some money to spend
>> and fails then I will put my hands up and agree its time to change
>> direction. Until then behave !!!!!
Novice ? You said it. He won't get money, he had to fight the board
over the Vinnie Moore transfer as they did not want to give him 12K
>> BTW ...Do any of you have any replacements in mind ????
Haven't seriously thought about that as I do not think Burley will
leave or be sacked.
Myself and Fin are probably better qualified than anyone to comment on
individual and team performances as we have gone to all/most matches.
I could take your opinions if you had witnessed the performances I am
talking about but you haven't. In fact the only game you appear to have
been at is 0-3 against the bairns, but that should have told you
something about the state of the defence/midfield. It's time for
certain players to stand up and be counted, give 100% effort and feel
justified in picking up a pay cheque. If they lose when playing good
football, then I'll at least see some improvement.
Kev...
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49.784 | ONLY ONE G BURLEY | MASALA::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Fri Oct 01 1993 12:00 | 11 |
|
Well said Kev.
Charlie.(SQFKFC)
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49.785 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Fri Oct 01 1993 12:24 | 22 |
|
Sal,
I'm sorry but I have to agree with everything Kev has said.
I've only seen the team on 3 occasions but in that 270 minutes
I have yet to see anything that gives me hope for the rest of the
season. There is no skill, no dig , no entertainment and the tactics
are naive at best. What does that leave you? I get the impression
that the players don't respect Burley. It's the only reason I can
come up with to justify the shocking performances I've seen.
I'll be very surprised if we take anything out of the next 3 games.
Come the middle of October we will not be sitting in the top half of
the league. After this weeks mid week games have we not dropped to
6th place anyway and if you look closely Dunfermline and St Mirren
are now within touching distance. They'll be above us come November.
At a fiver a pop to see that sh*te, I reckon I'm justified to have
a good greeeeeet.
Del.
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49.786 | Its not over yet !!!!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Fri Oct 01 1993 20:52 | 49 |
|
Re last few,
I think that I may have opened a worm can packed with emotion
when I took on the task of dareing to state my opinion .So I would like
to have the floor for a minuite to clear my part time supporting name !
Firstly the main point of my arguement was in referance to
Del's claim that we are infact in worse shape now than when Ally run
the show !!! Now from someone that has watched and played as much
football as Derek Rees I find that unbelievable .I won't waste half my
disk space typeing the case for Burley since '91 and against Ally for
the 3 years prior,I will put it down to a rush of blood to the head
from a supporter let down again .
Now onto Cammy Duncan,not the greatest crossball goalie,I admit
that but he is a great shot stopper and has saved us numerous points
last season and will do the this term as well .If he was a dominant
keeper in the box he would be with another club .Infact if George could
pass,if Shotton was 29,if Sammy could take the ball past a man,if
Traynor had more pace they would all be with other clubs because other
clubs pay more infact all clubs pay more ...Getting the picture.
I agree that the last 4 weeks have been poor for us,but the
current league table is calculated on all games so far and in that
respect we are 5th,which means our results so far are 5th best in the
league ...
Now,onto the wee dig at my lack of attendance at games and the
theory that "I watch them,you don't,so I know best".Naw I've changed my
mind,I don't really want to go down this road ,sorry.
Lads,the truth is I don't take it as seriously as I used to,so the
pain is a lot less when things are not going well.
I could make long lists of what Burley has to work with and what
say Jimmy Bone,Alec McDonald or Jim Jeffries has but I think I would be
wasteing my time .
Football is like everything else in life,know your limitations and
you'll seldom be disapointed .
To sum up Burley is the best manager we have had since Ally's
second spell and that was only for three months.At the moment he is
going through a rough spell and from what I hear he is having some
trouble with some of his players and THEY are going on to the park
and letting us down ......
SQFHM..
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49.787 | Well said Graham | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Fri Oct 01 1993 21:09 | 21 |
|
Sal, how you doing??
You've certainly upset a few folk in this note. Personally, I can't
really comment as the last game I was at was the 'Gers cup game in
February. By all accounts, Ayr are pretty dire just now. Ok, Burley's
hands are tied, what with the lack of cash etc but the team he is
playing at the moment is full of players he signed so he must take
some of the flak thats going around. As for players not respecting
him or giving him a hard time, they should realise that he's achieved
more in the game than any of them have or ever will.
I can't think of when I'll be back at Somerset as my budding golf
career takes up most Saturdays now!!!
Danny.
ps The full time supporters are the mugs who are throwing their cash
away watching that rubbish!! Big game supporter, that's me!!
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49.788 | 4th top on points ;-)))))))))))) | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Sat Oct 02 1993 21:03 | 25 |
|
Airdrie 1 Ayr United 1
McGlashan
According to the radio this was a drab game and a draw was about the
right result.Ayr's goal came from a HUGH BURNS corner which went to the
back post where MALKY SHOTTON headed it back across goal and little
COLIN McGLASHAN stuck it away to put Utd 1-0 ahead .However as is the
norm with Ayr we failed to hold this lead and Airdrie scored what was
to be the equalizer 4 mins later .
Still this was a good point away from home at a very tough ground for
Ayr . I think we lost 6-0 on one of our last visits there .So George
Burley and a section of the the fans will be quite pleased as not a lot
of teams will take anything at Airdrie this season .
Look forward to Kev's usual match coverage on Monday ..
Dan,
How's it going ? All this banter IS in the best possible taste, whats
it all about if we can't agree to disagree sometimes 8*))))..
Pld F A W D L Pts
Ayr Utd 11 11 12 4 3 4 11
SQF HM ..
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49.789 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Mon Oct 04 1993 17:18 | 8 |
|
Sal,
by my reckoning that puts us 2pts ahead of joint 3rd bottom!
I'm a touch more pessimistic. :-)
Del.
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49.790 | Agree on most points. | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Oct 05 1993 14:23 | 65 |
| re .786
>>Note 49.786 Ayr United FC 786 of 789
>>PAKORA::GMCDONALD "Theyre on the park at Palmerston" 49 lines 1-OCT-1993 19:52
>> -< Its not over yet !!!!!!! >-
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Now onto Cammy Duncan,not the greatest crossball goalie,I admit
>> that but he is a great shot stopper and has saved us numerous points
>> last season and will do the this term as well .If he was a dominant
>> keeper in the box he would be with another club .Infact if George could
>> pass,if Shotton was 29,if Sammy could take the ball past a man,if
>> Traynor had more pace they would all be with other clubs because other
>> clubs pay more infact all clubs pay more ...Getting the picture.
All I ask is that players TRY. You're mistaking class,skill and ability for
effort. I agree if these players were better footballers they would be with
better clubs, that's a fact, but take Kilmarnock for instance, they do not
have any worldbeaters in their ranks, yet they give (by all reports) 100%
every game. If any or every Ayr player showed this effort I would be happy.
>> I agree that the last 4 weeks have been poor for us,but the
>> current league table is calculated on all games so far and in that
>> respect we are 5th,which means our results so far are 5th best in the
>> league ...
This is true, but by Christmas it may be a different story, (I hope not)
>> Now,onto the wee dig at my lack of attendance at games and the
>> theory that "I watch them,you don't,so I know best".Naw I've changed my
>> mind,I don't really want to go down this road ,sorry.
Why not ? Do you comment on a film or TV prog that you haven't seen ? Do you
review a book you haven't read ? Do you criticise a restaurant you haven't
eaten in ? Get the picture ? You haven't been at the games RECENTLY so you
cannot comment on RECENT performances, correct or not ? I would rephrase your
sentence to be "I watched them recently, you haven't, so I know more about
those performances than you"
>> Lads,the truth is I don't take it as seriously as I used to,so the
>> pain is a lot less when things are not going well.
>> I could make long lists of what Burley has to work with and what
>> say Jimmy Bone,Alec McDonald or Jim Jeffries has but I think I would be
>> wasteing my time .
Sad but true.
>> Football is like everything else in life,know your limitations and
>> you'll seldom be disapointed .
see above.
>> To sum up Burley is the best manager we have had since Ally's
>> second spell and that was only for three months.At the moment he is
>> going through a rough spell and from what I hear he is having some
>> trouble with some of his players and THEY are going on to the park
>> and letting us down ......
I agree. I asked for players to stand up and be counted and feel justified
at picking up a pay cheque and most of them did for most of the game on
Saturday.
Kev...
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49.791 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Oct 05 1993 22:50 | 6 |
|
B&Q result
Ayr Utd 3 East Fife 1
Del.
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49.792 | | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Tue Oct 05 1993 23:24 | 3 |
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Del, Ayr scorer's were McGlashan,Burns and Bryce .
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49.793 | | PAKORA::AMCARTHUR | andrew 789 8225 | Wed Oct 06 1993 09:16 | 1 |
| Fifes scorer was Gilbert Allan....
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49.794 | 2 games no defeats | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Oct 06 1993 10:24 | 69 |
|
Airdrie 1 - 1 Ayr United
A hard fought point which was just reward for the efforts of the Ayr players
on Saturday. With a few changes in the line up ie Scott on the bench and
Bryce playing from the start and Hoody also a sub, it was Ayr who started
better with McGivern challenging bravely in the penalty area inside 45 secs
only to require treatment. Ayr continued to press from midfield with Moore,
Robertson and Burns providing the passes to the front 3, but it was Airdrie
who almost broke the deadlock when a Ferguson header struck the bar and bounced
clear. Ayr survived this let off and finished the half on top with Vinnie Moore
going close with a couple of headers.
Second half was a bit more lively and Ayr pushed Airdrie all the way, forcing
them back for long periods of time. From one corner, Traynor rose at the back
post to meet it and bulleted a header towards goal which Martin parried and
then cleared at the second attempt off his own bar. From the next corner
Traynor met it again and this time it struck an Airdrie arm in the box and went
out for a corner. The ref refused the penalty and the chance was cleared.
However Ayr were not to be denied and from a Burns corner, Shotton flicked on
at the near post for McGlashan to head home at the back post despite the
attempts of Sandison to keep it out with his hands (he was booked). The goal
was costly though as Shotton had damaged his ankle in the landing and was
carried off for treatment. He was off for 4-5 minutes and during this time
Airdrie equalised when Kirkwood met a Davenport cross and headed weakly at
goal, only for Duncan to parry it into the net. Shotton returned to the field
before the match restarted and for the remaining 15 minutes he was a busy man
along with Burley, Mair and the excellent Traynor. Airdrie moved up a gear
and pounded Ayr but a mixture of poor finishing, bad luck and resolute
defending meant it finished at 1 apiece. Peter Davenport later commented that
Ayr were the strongest team they had faced at Broomfield and made a good
contest of the match. He thought a draw was fair.
Ayr United 3 - 1 East Fife
Ayr's yearly venture in the B&Q Cup is extended for another round at least
after a comfortable victory against their gallant Fife opponents. Ayr pushed
from the word go but poor finishing and some desperate defending kept the
Fife goalie from too much work until a succession of corners almost brought
the opener when Moore headed narrowly past. In 33 minutes, the best piece
of football by an Ayr team in years brought the first goal. The debut boy
Gary Lennox won the ball with a fierce challenge deep in his own half , he
released McGivern on the right who first-timed it across the park to Bryce
who in turn knocked it into the box where McGlashan finished clinically for
a superb opener. Thats the way it stayed until 66 minutes when an Ayr corner
was cleared to Gibby Allan at halfway and he ran through a challenge to shoot
at the near post where the ball squirmed under Willie Spence for an equaliser
totally against the run of play. This sparked something of a revival in the
Fifers and for about 10 minutes they were the better team with one or two
chances to go in front. However, they seemed to tire quickly and Ayr were soon
back in front when sub Barry Scott's pass found McGlashan all alone with only
the keeper to beat. He danced round him and the ball ran in front of Hugh
Burns, who sidefooted it home from 8 yards with the Fife defence in disarray
and claiming offside. The gulf between the teams was further emphasised 5
minutes later when a tremendous through ball from Moore released Burns and
with only the keeper to beat, he cleverly hit it across the goal where Stevie
Bryce appeared to tap the ball in from a couple of yards.
Earlier in the day, Ayr had signed Gary Lennox who had been released by
Derry City. The ex-Brechin City and Falkirk player has been signed until
the end of the season on a full-time contract and on last night's display
will be an asset in the midfield. Sammy took an ankle knock and may be
doubtful for Saturday, Mair did not reappear after half-time after receiving
a nasty face knock and Hoody replaced him with Traynor moving to rightback
and Robbo to left back. I'm looking forward to Saturday's match against
Clydebank. It should be a cracker.
Kev...
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49.795 | 2 wins in a row ? | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Oct 07 1993 15:22 | 7 |
| B&Q Cup second round draw has us paired with
Brechin City
at home on the 19th of October. We play them at home again on the 23rd
Kev....
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49.796 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Sun Oct 10 1993 12:34 | 16 |
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After my doom and gloom of a few notes back when I thought we'd conceed
a barrel load of goals and gain zero points from the games against
Airdrie,Clydebank and Falkirk, the results so far ain't been too bad.
A good point gained last week at Airdrie was followed yesterday by
another point at home to Clydebank. By all accounts it should have been
two and it looks as if we played our best football of the season so far.
Kev, get the report in, the coverage in the Sunday papers is crap as usual.
What about Ross Jack.....can't make up my mind about that one...thought
he was well past it ?
Another point away at Falkirk this coming Saturday would do fine.
Del.
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49.797 | Jack's a great name 8*)))))) | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Sun Oct 10 1993 16:08 | 20 |
|
Del,
Yes,your doom and gloom note looks to have spurred Utd into
action,it seems that they have went and signed a midfielder in Gary
Lennox that can both pass and tackle and by all acounts will be an
asset to the club when he and Vinnie have had a few games together.
Add to this the repacement of Scott by Bryce on the left and it looks
a lot more of a balanced side . All we now need his a quality left full
back and we would have a fairly good squad which could give a good
account of themselves this season .
As for Ross Jack,I think we should sign him,while he is a bit on the
old side he could do us a job as a pool player because the way Sammy
plays he will take knocks and get bookings so Ross could help us when
McGivern is unable to play .That is of course if his form is up to it,
we'll find that out tomorrow when Kev gets his report in .
BTW do we play the Bagdad boys tomorrow night ?
SQF HM..
|
49.798 | Bankies blitzed | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Oct 12 1993 14:13 | 59 |
|
Ayr United 1 - 1 Clydebank
The table-toppers from the north will never be luckier to go home with
a point than on Saturday. After scoring against the run of play they
shut up shop and made the second-half a non-event from a Bankies point
of view. The lone Bankie fan that I converse with said he was really
pleased when the final whistle went as Ayr were all over them and
pressing for the winner.
Ayr dropped Moore to the bench as he was still suffering from the
effects of flu and left McGivern out due to an ankle injury. This let
Duncan George return and left a striker's place open for surprise
trialist Ross Jack. Knocking the ball about well in the opening 20
minutes, Ayr looked likely to score soon and several close things
ensued before Stevie Bryce missed a golden opportunity when he screwed
the ball past the post from an easy scoring position after a Mair free-
kick had been blocked. Sweeney was booked for the challenge on Ross
Jack which led to the chance. Clydebank took heart from this and for
a short time were looking dangerous with the diminutive Flannigan and
the jurassic Eadie causing one or two problems with their 'tactics' of
getting man and ball in any order. However Flannigan was 'sorted out'
by Duncan George with a couple of heavy tackles. His last contribution
to the game was to set up the goal. A superb through pass found Stevie
Jack in acres of space (looking a tad offside I might add) and he
strode forward before crashing the ball home high at the near post in
the 44th minute.
The ref was having a bit of an off day and it came as no surprise when
he overreacted to a couple of tackles in the second half which resulted
in McGlashan and Harvey following Sweeney into his address book. Ayr
took the game by the scruff off the neck and , cheered on by a
vociferous home support, they pounded the Clydebank goal. Murdoch, the
sweeper was a busy man as he blocked several chances and generally
calmed the young goalie down. Lennox was denied when Monaghan saved
with his legs and a Shotton effort was cleared on the line. McGlashan
scored , only for it to be knocked off for offside and the offending
linesman further incensed the supporters when he refused to flag for an
infringement when Bryce was clearly held by Crawford. The ref gave the
foul and Hugh Burns roasted the linesman for not being brave enough to
give the foul himself and was booked for his trouble. The goal was not
long in coming however and when Stevie Bryce sent an inviting low cross
into the box, Sweeney fouled Jack (surprise surprise) and the ref
awarded the penalty which Burns tucked inside the keepers right hand
corner of the net. For the remaining 20 minutes, Ayr continued with the
pressure and only last ditch tackles and desperate defending kept the
winner from going in. All in all , a good performance with the stars
being Gordon Mair, who had his best match in an Ayr jersey by far, Hugh
Burns , who actually tackled someone (honest) and perhaps the front 3
who worked very hard. Had McGivern been playing, I would bet on Ayr
having won the game as he may have put himself about better in the box.
All the players had good matches except for the normally reliable
Robertson whose distribution was poor.
On the subject of Ross Jack....I would sign him as a squad man as
Walker has departed for Sunny Boghead. I understand we got cash for him
so I'd use it as a signing-on/wages for Jack.
Kev...
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49.799 | United we stand !!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Tue Oct 12 1993 15:15 | 10 |
| Kev,
I agree we should sign Ross Jack,he would do a good job for
us as a pool player.
Do you know how much we got for Tommy ? One player I'm glad to be
seeing the back of.Yes he was a 100% every game but he was a very poor
finisher and couldn't play .
Any thoughts on tonight's tripto Bagdad ??
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49.800 | One Tommy Walker!!!!! | AYOV25::LGRACE | | Tue Oct 12 1993 16:17 | 3 |
| What's this Kev and Sal actually agreeing on something.I don't believe
it.After seeing this,there's maybe a chance Ayr could sneak a win
tonight,or maybe I am just pushing my luck a little.
|
49.801 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Oct 12 1993 16:36 | 11 |
|
I'll be disappointed if Burley fields a full strength side tonight.
I would hate to risk injury to anyone when you consider the size of
pool we have. This season the league is of greater importance than
usual and I would hope Burley won't risk losing anyone for Saturday's
trip to Falkirk. I'm sure Tommy Burns won't field his strongest side
after the great start to the season they've had. The Ayrshire Cup
is of little importance this season. This game should be played at the
end of the season when both clubs will be in the same division !
Del.
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49.802 | :-) :-) :-) | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Tue Oct 12 1993 16:43 | 8 |
|
That's why they should of kept hold of Tommy Walker for another
week or two. He would at least kick the s**t out of the Baghdad
boys and add that extra bit of dig needed in a derby match. Bring
back Tommy and we'll burst the unbeaten run of the boys from Beruit.
Danny.
|
49.803 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Oct 12 1993 17:31 | 11 |
| Sal,
I'm not sure how much we got for TW but let's face it, pennies would
be a bit much. He really should have been allowed to go for nowt as he
had been at Ayr since '87 and deserved *something* for the effort he
gave over the years. A good finisher he wasn't, but he was a trier.
Sad to say but I won't be at Beirut for the match tonight. Other
commitments. Hope someone else is there to give a match report.
Normal service will resume next week.
Kev...
|
49.805 | UNITED WE STAND !!!!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Wed Oct 13 1993 09:41 | 55 |
|
New Age Travellers XI 3 Ayr United 3 AET
Brown (2) Burns (2)
McCloy McGlashan
Travellers won on sudden death penalties .
This is a game should have won by a mile, we controlled most of the
play,had most of the ball and most of the territorial advantage but
poor tactics and poor finishing cost us dearly .Add to that the fact
that we gifted Killie 3 goals and you'll understand why it was a bad
night for Ayrshire's finest .
Killie fielded an eleven made up in the main of pool players and went
ahead first when Shotton and Duncan went for the same ball .In the
confusion Brown collected the ball and chipped the ball over the two
idiots .Ayr repied but Killie's young keeper has a great double save
from McGlashan who spent a large amount of time on the right wing for
no apparent reason .
Ayr scored when the daft keeper handled a pass back,the free kick was
passed to Burns who chipped the goalie from the edge of the box .Killie
scored up the other end but I couldn't see much for chichen wire and
H-beams ..So we looked finished at 2-1 but just as the crowd were about
to leave McGlashan does what he does best and dropped in the box,big Shug
took the penalty and made no mistake ,2-2 and extra time .To tell you
the truth at this stage I would have rather went home.Never the less
I took my place on the terrace (300 yds from the action) to see Utd
take a firm grip of the match,a long ball was headed at goal by Jack I
think,this was only parried by the keeper and McGlashan finished it .
The tie should have been over,but enter our carthorse paced defence !
Big Malky made a silly challenge on the edge of the box and the new
age fellow went down like a ton of bricks.It was a soft one but I
suppose it was tit for tat ..Anyway Brown tucked it away and it was on
to pens.....
This is where the whole thing got out of hand both teams missed 3
out of five,with our sinners being Lennox (saved) Moore (post) and
Mair(missed target).The game moved to sudden death,Killie scored and it
was all down to Utd . With Ross Jack and Barry Scott still free to take
a kick I was feeling confident .Silly me, up strolled Robertson our
right full back and blasted the ball right down John Finney Street.
It was over (again).
On the plus side : Burns and Mair had good game .Lennox looks like a
real find .
On the down side : Our defence and keeper don't communicate.Our back 4
are very slow and play very square,any ball knocked behind them is very
effective .
Still it was 300% better than my last game,it will take a fair bit of
time for all these new players to blend into a team,but it will come..
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49.806 | Dross Jack | AYOV25::LGRACE | | Wed Oct 13 1993 13:01 | 13 |
| Re.798 and .799
With regards to Ross Jack,there is no way after last night's
performance can George Burley sign him.I know that you weren't at
the game kev but I know that Sal was and surely he must agree that
this guy is way passed his best and has nothing to offer us.Last
night he couldn't jump he was yards too slow and several attacks
broke down when the ball came to him,he was a total embarrassement.
It's okay having experience but we can't afford to carry passengers
any more,another coming into that mould unfortunately is Shotton,he
was found wanting several times for pace and cost us two goals I
reckon.He should either move into Centre-half and have somebody
behind him or else sit-it out because it is a recipe for disaster
having him as sweeper.
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49.807 | Super coach,is right again 8-)))))) | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Wed Oct 13 1993 14:31 | 12 |
|
L,
Yip I agree 100% about Malky,he uses tha ball very well and never
flaps when on it but his pace isn't there anymore and he needs someone
in there with him who is very mobile and can drop back on through
balls.Traynor is not the player to partner him ! Maybe Hood is when he
is fit .
Yes,I saw Jack last night and was not pleased with him at all.To
slow,not physical enough and never really threatend to score .I would
be reluctant to give him one of our precious full time slots .I would
save the cash and sign Philliben ....
|
49.809 | You're beginning to sound like me ! 8*)) | PAKORA::JJACK | | Wed Oct 13 1993 15:37 | 11 |
|
<<This is a game should have won by a mile, we controlled most of the
play,had most of the ball and most of the territorial advantage>>
Sal....seems your team had everything bar a trophy at the end of the
match !
8*)
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49.810 | Won f**k all and never will 8*((((( | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | Theyre on the park at Palmerston | Wed Oct 13 1993 15:48 | 8 |
|
JJ,
Yehh,I guess Ayr and Celtic have a lot in common as well,tight
fisted greedy wee men on the board,a stadium in need of repair and
an ability to get creamed on a regular basis from your main rivals .
SQF HM.. 8-))))
|
49.811 | Simply the best.. | BUSSTP::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Wed Oct 13 1993 16:04 | 11 |
|
Sal, whit kind of note is that to put in? Won f'all and never will!!!
When was the last time the Beirut Boys won a national trophy? Back in
the swinging 60s. The black and white machine strolled to a famous and
majestic second division title a couple of seasons ago and were very
unlucky not to pick up the B&Q trophy on two occassions. Wash your
mouth out boy, our recent record proves we're the PRIDE of AYRSHIRE!!!
Danny.
|
49.812 | WON @@@@ AND NEVER WILL !!!! | PAKORA::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Fri Oct 15 1993 16:47 | 9 |
|
THE PRIDE OF AYRSHIRE " NOT "
Charlie(sqfKFC)
|
49.813 | Whoomf ! Hook,Line and Sinker | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Oct 15 1993 16:48 | 3 |
| Hope the bait tasted good Charlie !
Kev...
|
49.814 | BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME | KIRKTN::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Sun Oct 17 1993 09:45 | 9 |
|
Well done ayr ANOTHER good result on saturday.
Charlie(sqfKFC)
|
49.815 | FFC/YB | PAKORA::SWRIGHT | Beavis and Butthead | Mon Oct 18 1993 22:07 | 4 |
| Yes.... Well done keeping it down to 2-0 .....
*:@))))))))
|
49.816 | Our name's on the Cup!! :-) | AYOV25::LGRACE | | Thu Oct 21 1993 16:11 | 2 |
| We have drawn Clydebank at home in the B+Q Cup.The tie will be played
on Tuesday 26th October.
|
49.817 | .....are you sure?? :-) | VERVAN::GORDON | Ludere Causa Ludendi | Thu Oct 21 1993 18:33 | 4 |
| If the ref's Hugh Dallas then you won't progress in the B&Q.
The only reason Clydebank got that far is through his "assistance"
in the game against Queen's Park.
|
49.818 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Oct 27 1993 09:03 | 26 |
| Well Ayr did indeed progress to the semi's of the Self Assembly Cup and
it was no thanks to ref kenny Clark from Paisley who had an absolutely
rotten match with a load of bad decisions and needless bookings.
Ayr scored in 44 minutes when under pressure from Sammy, that wee fat
tube Murdoch lobbed his own keeper from 10 yards. Ayr tied it up after
81 minutes when Super Sean Sweeney , who also received his customary
booking, also gave away his customary penalty when he flattened Gregg
Hood at a corner. Burns tucked the spot kick high into the net and a few
minutes later, took a bow as he was named Man of the Match. Sammy
almost added a third when his powerful header from a Burns corner was
blocked on the line and cleared. Traynor left the field at half-time
and was replaced by Hood who had a fine match. Bryce was replaced by
Jack late on.
Not tempting fate too much but.. I would prefer the winner of the
M'bank/Montrose match in the semi thank you very much. We seem to have
a problem playing against Falkirk ie our attackers add up to 6 feet 5
and each one of the skillful, creative, fair and honest Falkirk
defenders ARE 6 feet 5. And we're not much better against Dunfermline
who haven't dropped a point since they visited Ayr on Sept 25th.
Oh well , draw is tomorrow.
Kev...
|
49.819 | Robertson,McQuilter on the move. | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Wed Oct 27 1993 15:26 | 9 |
|
Kev, read in the local rag that Graeme Robertson is packing it in at
Somerset and moving back to the Dunfermline area. He's got some job
with the SFA coaching kids in the area or something. Robertson hadn't
missed a game for Ayr since he joined the club. Also, McQuilter has
asked for a move as he's no happy playing reserve team footy.
Danny.
|
49.820 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Oct 27 1993 15:37 | 15 |
| Graeme Robertson has always stayed in Dunfermline and travelled every
day for training. He was a model professional to the others at Ayr and
was always first in and last away from training. He has a 3 year
contract with the SFA as the Area coach. He was looking for a bit of
job security and who can blame him. One of the best free-transfers we
ever got and played in all 68 of Ayr's matches since he signed. Played
in every position of defence and midfield and rarely if ever had a poor
match. I will be sorry to see him go.
McQuilter was basically a squad man and should know that he would not
get a first team place very often. Was showing a bit more promise after
playing next to Shotton but I feel Hood is a much better proposition
and if Ronnie wants to go, let him.
Kev...
|
49.821 | Hot off the phone..... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Oct 28 1993 12:56 | 7 |
| B&Q Cup draw for the semis
Ayr United v St Mirren
to be played 2 November
Kev...
|
49.822 | | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Here we go again | Thu Oct 28 1993 13:54 | 4 |
|
Graeme says that is a good draw.....
ghost writer
|
49.824 | got to be nice somtime...Sal says HI | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Here we go again | Thu Oct 28 1993 13:56 | 7 |
|
could you tell me if the Falkirk V Meadowbank game is at
brockville or the Commonwealth stadium. ???
rgds
SQF Jambo #1
|
49.825 | Say HI to Sal | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Oct 28 1993 15:34 | 4 |
| Sorry, don't know where the Bairns versus Bores match is. I phoned
Somerset for the Ayr draw.
Kev..
|
49.826 | | AYOV25::LGRACE | | Thu Oct 28 1993 15:47 | 1 |
| Falkirk are at home to Meadowbank.
|
49.827 | B&Q Semi Results | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Nov 02 1993 21:52 | 8 |
|
Ayr 1 St Mirren 2
Falkirk 3 Meadowbank 2
Ayr were 1 up, Meadowbank were 2 up !!
Del.
|
49.828 | Football this wasn't ! | SCUNER::S_GOUDIE | Kick Back and Party | Wed Nov 03 1993 08:27 | 22 |
|
Well thats almost every Tuesday night home game I've attended since
the pre-season friendlies and last night must be very near the worst
display yet.
Ayr were dire ! St Mirren were not much better.
And that ref ...... unbelievable !!
Maybe someone could explain it all but I'm at a loss to understand
Ayr's continual tatics of thumping the ball high in whatever direction
the player happens to be facing when the ball lands at his feet.
No one in the team seems to want or be capable of holding and using
the ball.
How many bookings did that ref hand out ? and why was Burns ordered
off ? That man didn't have a clue from that start. None the less
Ayr never deserved a win.
Stuart
|
49.829 | Robbery..... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Nov 03 1993 09:02 | 31 |
| Stuart,
How can you say Ayr 'never deserved a win' ?? St Mirren were gifted the
game by an abysmal referee who displayed unbeleivable inconsistency
with his decisions. He booked Burns for what he said was 'kicking the
ball away'. It looked to me like he intended to play the ball off the
back wall to Campbell Money. Then he had to be forced to book Dawson
for booting the ball away at a free-kick. He booked Gallagher for
deliberate handball (he punched the ball into the net) when the rule is
a red card for this offence. Had he sent Gallagher off, he would not
have been there 2 minutes later to score the winning goal. He only
spoke to Lavety after he headbutted Kennedy, yet sent Burns off for an
innocuous foul in the midfield. This was the turning point as St Mirren
found lots of room in the midfield after this and then Burley made it
easier for them by subbing Bryce and bringing on Jack and then removed
Lennox in favour of Traynor. Anyone who watched the game would have
seen that Gallagher and Lavety were shafting Shotton and the subs
should have been Traynor on for Shotton and Jack for McGlashan , who
was not having a good match at all. Ayr may not have played well but
scarcely deserved to lose to a team who had 5 booked (should've been
more) and were given a helping hand by a referee who, on his last visit
to ref an Ayr v St Mirren game, sent off 3 Paisley Thugs and was
lambasted in the press by an irate Jimmy 'Brainless' Bone. This *may*
have had an effect on his handling of the game as some of his decisions
were diabolical to say the least.
I never thought I'd see the day when I would want Falkirk to win but
come the 5th of December, I'll be hoping the Bairns, with their lovely
football ;-) play St Midden off the park.
Kev...
|
49.830 | What a joke.. | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Wed Nov 03 1993 09:35 | 9 |
|
No wonder referee's get a bad press if Timmons is anything to go
by. The guy is brainless, he makes so many mistakes (affecting both
teams) it's unreal. Surely the SFA should remove him from the Grade 1
list and get him back refereeing juniors/amateurs/schoolboys. Then
again, the SFA is run by brainless ***** - insert your choice of words.
Danny.
|
49.831 | Robbery .. for the paying fans ! | SCUNER::S_GOUDIE | Kick Back and Party | Wed Nov 03 1993 10:11 | 19 |
|
Kev,
I agree totally that Burns should never have been sent-off, that
the ref was a complete idiot who never had any control of the
game (I never thought it was a particularly dirty game) but on
balance I thought St Mirren deserved the win. In the first quarter
of the game Ayr should have buried St Mirren but couldn't. Up until
Burns walked Ayr were clueless, continually thumping long high
hopefull balls into space, inevitably wasted. After, it was only a
matter of time before St Mirren finished us off.
St Mirren though were hardly much better than Ayr ! It's only the
fact that they seemed to try to move the ball around slighty more
than Ayr that, to me, made it seem they deserved the win.
STuart
|
49.832 | Louis thow wouldve booked 'im | AYOV16::AARNOTT | | Wed Nov 03 1993 13:05 | 6 |
|
deliberate handball is only a bookable offence unless falling under the
'professional' foul category i.e. blocking a certain goal I thought?
Andy.
|
49.833 | Happy days | YELBUS::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Tue Nov 23 1993 16:25 | 20 |
|
Very quiet in this note these days lads, is everyone just totally
p'd off with mid-table first division football?
Anyway, to put an even bigger downer on us, who saw the interview
with David Murray on Sportscene on Friday? He was obviously going
great guns about Ibrox and the changes there over the past 5 years
since he took control. However, he managed to answer a few questions
about his abortive take-over at Somerset. Basically, Ayr would be
playing in the Premier Division, would have an all seated ground,
and he even had a prior agreement with Souness that he would be
manager of the club if he (Murray) got control. The illustrious
board of directors at the time certainly have a lot to answer for.
Danny.
ps Maybe the directors were right, look at the mess Souness has made
at Liverpool. :-)
|
49.834 | useless b@!!@#ds | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Nov 24 1993 10:07 | 16 |
|
There was the same kind of article in the Sunday Mail. Murray talked
at length about his continuing success with Rangers. The frightening
part of the interview, as far as the rest of Scottish football is
concerned, was when he stated that with Ibrox nearly complete no more
money would be spent on the ground. All money would go to strengthening
the team. Rangers domination looks set to continue as long as Murray is
chairman.
The last paragraph was about his failure to buy Ayr. How they would now
be a Premier side with an all seated stadium etc etc....
I'll nooooooo be back, even if we do manage to get a half decent side
on the park. I still can't believe we knocked him back.
Del. (Not even a part-time supporter)
|
49.835 | 0-0 | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Thu Dec 09 1993 13:12 | 6 |
| Danny,
I warned you not to take Dundee United for a home win last Saturday.
But would you listen? No!
Gavin
|
49.836 | Now I really HATE Killie | YELBUS::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Thu Dec 09 1993 14:48 | 6 |
|
Aye, and to make matters worse, my other 5 results all came good. In
other words, Killie's draw cost me 95 quid!!!
Danny.
|
49.837 | KILMARNOCK 1 Raith Rovers...didn't | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Fri Dec 10 1993 12:28 | 5 |
| Danny,
How about taking them for a home win tomorrow?
Gavin
|
49.838 | Come on ye Raith | MASALA::AMILLAR | And some late news just in... | Fri Dec 10 1993 12:45 | 8 |
|
The mighty Raith to, at last, get the result their football deserves-
Killie 0 Raith Rovers 4
You heard it here first.
Archie
|
49.839 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Dec 10 1993 13:12 | 10 |
| Eh lads,
We're sleeping in here so....
Beat it back to the Beirut note
Kev...(who'll be watching 2nd division football next season)
|
49.840 | ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!! | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Mon Dec 13 1993 12:16 | 6 |
| Sorry If I woke anyone up! I'll just say "1-0" then beat it back to
note 50.
Bye!
Gavin
|
49.841 | It's hello from me | YELBUS::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Wed Dec 15 1993 13:49 | 14 |
|
Welcome back to the Ayr conference, anybody home???
Last night's gubbing from Dunfermline saw us loose one of the best
defensive records in the league, but what's really annoying is that
Dunfermline have scored 54 league goals. The black and white machine
is slowly grinding along with a grand total of 19 scored. Never mind,
we might have a chance to win the 2nd division next time round.
Danny.
ps Never mind lads, once the squirrels from Baghdad blow up we'll have
something to laugh about. (I hope!!)
|
49.842 | HOW LONG HAS BURLEY GOT | AYOV10::BLOVE | | Fri Dec 17 1993 14:45 | 13 |
| The Ayr Utd boys were out on their Christmas night out on Wednesday,
(drowning their sorrows) well about six managed to turn up. Malcolm
Shotton was having talking to a couple of guys at the bar in Tam o'
Shanters, and was making it clear that none of the players were playing
for George Burley, and most of them wished he would go.
He made it clear that he would live to take the job, and feels that
he'd have no problem with the players playing for him.
Interesting !! How long can George Burley last.....
Lovey
|
49.843 | SEASONAL SLUSH... | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Tue Dec 21 1993 09:56 | 6 |
| A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all in this note and may your
team do better in the 2nd half of the season, because there's something
I'd really like to see before too much longer. A New Year's day, Premier
league Ayrshire derby match! Now wouldn't that be something!
Gavin.
|
49.844 | A Long wait | KIRKTN::SROBINS | THERES GOT TO BE MORE TO LIFE | Tue Dec 21 1993 11:11 | 5 |
| >:: A new years day premier league derby match ::<
Yip your correct that would be something,but i think you'll
have to wait much longer than you think.
SQF Pars fan.
|
49.845 | | KIRKTN::GPIKE | | Tue Dec 21 1993 13:49 | 10 |
|
You'll need to wait on the pigs flying over the moon for both Ayr
and DUMferline to get on any premier game
lithgy fur ti cup...
|
49.846 | It's all downhill from now. | YELBUS::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Tue Dec 21 1993 18:41 | 13 |
|
Gav, it'll be a long time before Ayr and Killie meet in a New Year
derby match. We'll almost certainly be playing division 2 football next
season, while your mob will be mulling along as another very mediocre
premier league side. All the best to all concerned, especially Killie
fans now that the slide towards the relegation zone has begun :-)
Danny.
ps Burley to be out at the turn of the year, Malky Shotton taking over
the helm.
|
49.847 | Burley Sacked | IRNBRU::MCCULLOCH | Roy McCulloch DTN 823-4029 | Fri Dec 24 1993 08:34 | 3 |
| George Burley and assistant Dale Roberts were sacked last night. The
new manager is Simon Stainrod. He is expected to make his debut against
Clydebank at Kilbowie on Monday.
|
49.848 | Mr Blobby Stainrod comes to Ayr | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Dec 24 1993 10:16 | 16 |
| A sad end to his first managerial post. It's never nice to have to sack
someone and the blame lies fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the
headcases who voted in a system which relegates 5 clubs this year.
Undue pressure caused the board to dispense with the services of George
Burley and Dale Roberts and now Simon 'Fat English Cheat' Stainrod has
the unenviable task of steering Ayr to safety in a cuthroat league. If
nothing else he brings something to the club which Burley was lacking,
a personality.
That's the first time I can honestly say that pressure from the fans
has brought about such a sudden change in direction. The directors
ignored all the abuse directed at them and sacked the managerial staff
instead. When will they realise that they themselves are the REAL
reason the club is floundering...?
Kev....
|
49.849 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Jan 04 1994 19:35 | 8 |
|
Clydebank 0 Ayr 2
Good start for Stainrod.
Del.
|
49.850 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Mon Jan 10 1994 13:49 | 9 |
|
Scottish Cup Draw....
Killie v Ayr
Disappointed not to get a big club.
Del.
|
49.851 | 1-0 to the Honest Men... | YELBUS::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Mon Jan 10 1994 19:30 | 15 |
|
Hopefully Stainpants can sign a couple of "better" players before
the cup tie and maybe we'll make a game of it at Rugby Park. Then
again, we can try and do a Killie and put out 11 players who have
little skill but can run for 90 minutes and close the game down!!
Hopefully there'll be a decent ref and our "skillful" player(s) will
get some protection from the ruffians from Devastation City.
If Killie manage to drum up a half-decent support we should at least
make a few quid out of the game which big fat Simon can use in the
transfer market.
Danny.
|
49.852 | no goals | YELBUS::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Tue Jan 11 1994 22:01 | 9 |
|
Tonights score,
Clyde 0 Ayr 0.
Point away from home can't be too bad.
Danny.
|
49.853 | More to come soon..... | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jan 13 1994 10:23 | 6 |
| Simon Stainrod made his first signing last night when he got 20 year
old Kevin Biggart on a free transfer from Dundee United. He is a left
sided midfielder/defender.
Kev.
|
49.854 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jan 14 1994 09:10 | 4 |
| George Burley has returned to whence he came. He has rejoined
Motherwell as a player and reserve team coach/manager.
Kev...
|
49.855 | ex | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jan 20 1994 13:31 | 14 |
| Simon Stainrod made his home debut last night in a 1-0 victory over
local rivals Kilmarnock in the Reserve league West. He played sweeper
and set up the goal for Nigel Howard. Subbed himself later on and
appeared to have taken a knock in an earlier challenge.
Team was;
Duncan,Traynor,trialist,Stainrod,Howard,McGlashan,trialist,Bryce
Carse,Lamont and Scott.
Dress rehearsal for the cup.......?
Kev.....
|
49.856 | Kevin Biggart....Mauchline | KIRKTN::JROWAN | Auchinleck Talbot WILL be back! | Thu Jan 20 1994 20:44 | 8 |
49.857 | Come on ye AYR...... | YELBUS::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Wed Jan 26 1994 16:36 | 17 |
|
Well folks, as Saturday's cup tie at Kilmarnock approaches, what's
the feelings among the fans? Are we good enough to sneak a win or is
it a case of keeping the score down? I'm sure Stainrod will have the
team well fired up for the game and if we can match Killie's
commitment and give 100% we should be in with a good chance. Killie
don't concede many goals but they've also struggled to score,
particularly at Rugby Park so it could be a tight one.
Lost 3-1 to St. Mirren last night but by all accounts a draw would
have been a fair result. After loosing a goal in approx 20 seconds!!
Ayr more than matched the Buddies for the rest of the game and at 2-1
down should have equalised when the St. Mirren keeper carried a Burns
cross over his goal-line but the linesman didn't give it.
Danny.
|
49.858 | One team in AYRshire | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jan 27 1994 13:25 | 16 |
| Well I don't want to spout smug optimism as you may find in the Beirut
note, but I think the score may be low, about 1 or 2 goals scored in
total. Ayr need to play a sweeper system as they are desperately short
of pace in the middle of defence. This may however play into Killie's
hands as it would leave them with acres of midfield space. It's
possible that Montgomerie may return so the weak link in Paterson will
be gone. Their strike force of "Elbows" Williamson and "Seven Bellys"
McCluskey will expect their usual field day against Ayr but I hope that
Simon Stainrod has the players fired up for this one and they give a
good account of themselves.
The latest odds are 4/11 Killie 13/2 Ayr 3/1 draw .
The draw must be tempting at 3-1.
Kev...
|
49.859 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Sun Jan 30 1994 15:00 | 15 |
|
For anyone who doesn't know, yesterday's game ended with a 2-1 win for
Kilmarnock. That now gives them a 4-1 lead in Scottish Cup games
between the clubs. As I was in here yesterday I never made the game
so can't give a report. The Sunday papers seem to differ on their reports.
Two of the sundays reckon Killie deserved their victory, another gives the
view that Ayr were good for a draw and that Killie's winner was a disputed
penalty. I'm sure TV evidence this afternoon will clear up wether it was a
penalty or not. I'll leave it to those who were there to give a fair report
on the game but regardless of wether or not Ayr deserved a draw it's Killie
who are in the next round and looking at the draw they should make the
quarters.
Del.
|
49.860 | Dive, dive, dive!!!! | YELBUS::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Mon Jan 31 1994 09:59 | 22 |
|
Although Killie deserved to win the game on chances created, Ayr lost
due to 2 bad errors. Killie's first goal came as they cleared a corner
and raced upfield where McSkimming was left in acres of space to
convert a cross. Ayr's central defenders were left upfield and were too
slow to get back to defend. Ayr equalised when Hughie Burns took the
mickey out of a couple of Killie defenders before crossing for Bryce to
score with a good diving header.
The winning goal came from a terrible decision from one of Scotlands
"top" referees. McSkimming fell/dived as if he had been shot, TV
pictures clearly show no contact was made by Shotton, this was verified
by Killie fans at that end of the ground. Black scored from the spot to
win the tie for Killie who must be odds-on to reach the quarter-finals
where hopefully they'll get stuffed!! :-)
Ayr must now concentrate on pulling clear of the relegation zone
starting on Saturday where 2 points are a must against Brechin.
Hopefully Stainrod can get some cash to spend on 2 or 3 new players.
Danny.
|
49.861 | Any old hats for sale?? | AYOV11::AARNOTT | | Mon Jan 31 1994 12:26 | 10 |
| Re last
Danny, rearrange this well known phrase "at clutching straws". Why was
Shotton about the only defender not too complain to the ref? Was it
because he realised he had made a boob?
You may have the last laugh anyway - Morton at Cappielow or Cowdenbeath
at central park are prime banana skins for us.
Andy.
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49.862 | 10 out of 10 | YELBUS::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Mon Jan 31 1994 13:12 | 14 |
|
Andy, take off your blue specs. Several Killie fans who were in line
with the goal-line were amazed and very amused when the penalty was
awarded, there was no contact made. The reason no player complained
was because the Killie player made an expert dive and forward roll to
con the ref, which ain't too hard to do these days. McSkimming has said
that the rest of his team even gave him 10 out of 10 for artistic
impression, that just about sums it up!!
Anyway, good luck in your fight against relegation and may you have
many more defeats before the end of the season :-) :-)
Danny.
|
49.863 | Waddell 2 - 1 Ayr | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Feb 01 1994 09:27 | 11 |
| Andy,
The reason that Shotton did not complain is that , unlike Hughie Burns,
he knows that complaining to the ref does not get him to change his
mind, it only results in a yellow card.
McSkimming went down like an Eastenders actress, plain and simple.
The victory is as hollow as Waddells head.
Kev....
|
49.864 | | AYOV11::AARNOTT | | Tue Feb 01 1994 12:20 | 11 |
|
BUT *I* like my blue specs!!!
We're going to have to agree to differ then boys i can see that common
sense isn't going to prevail 8-)))
Kev, There ain't such a thing as a hollow victory only victory or
defeat.
'til next time,
Andy.
|
49.865 | ;-) | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Feb 01 1994 12:46 | 5 |
| Really poor Andy,
I expected *much* better from the "King Of Witty Retorts"
Kev...
|
49.866 | ! | AYOV16::AARNOTT | | Tue Feb 01 1994 13:09 | 7 |
| sorry kev,
I'll mark down 'must do better' on my report card.
btw I hear fedora prices have been slashed. Buy now and avoid the
pre-promotion rush 8-).
Andy.
|
49.867 | dive dive dive | MASALA::CREILLY | CHARLIE | Thu Feb 03 1994 15:51 | 4 |
| Kev,
At the end of the day the best team won.
|
49.868 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Feb 04 1994 08:56 | 9 |
| re last
I know Charlie, I'm not disputing that.
It just annoys me that it took a dive in the penalty area to seperate
the scoreline. Killie were bad and Ayr were worse. Lot's of huffing and
puffing, lots of effort, no entertainment. Typical of recent derbies.
Kev...
|
49.869 | | AYOV11::AARNOTT | | Fri Feb 04 1994 12:02 | 11 |
| Re -1
All winding up aside - I can't agree with you on the entertainment side
of the game, Kev. I thought it was a good game (from our viewpoint)
with some decent fitba' played and the usual derby aggro (but not
enough from us as usual).
Andy.
|
49.870 | Come on lads, out the woodwork ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Feb 25 1994 11:46 | 23 |
| In a desperate attempt to reach .1000 quicker than the Beirut Boys, it's
time for a series of inane ramblings and witterings to appear here.
Actually , a few folk have wondered what's happened to the match
reports etc. I'll probably start boring you all again soon in the run
up to the end of the season when we'll all be bricking ourselves in
case we get relegated.
Morton tomorrow weather permitting and a good chance to bury the lads
from Greenock in the second division. They've had a really bad time
with injuries and if they get relegated (likely) I think they'll run
away with the league next year with a fully fit squad. Ayr will be
missing Bryce (thank God) with a medial ligament strain and George and
Burns through suspension. Lennox should return to midfield and McGivern
will go back up front. Duncan will continue on the bench as Spence had
a blinder against Airdrie, playing fullback sweeper and keeper ! Cammy
may be joined on the bench by Simon Stainrod who is desperate to make
his home debut. Hopefully he'll show some of the form which made me
hate him when he played against Ayr. With Clydebank taking on Stirling
there is a good chance that Ayr could move up a place by 4.45 on Sat,
fingers crossed.
Kev...
|
49.871 | Ayr v Morton off | BUSSTP::DREES | | Sat Feb 26 1994 09:55 | 4 |
|
Todays game is off. It's rescheduled for this coming Tuesday.
Del
|
49.872 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Mar 01 1994 21:40 | 9 |
|
Final Score :
Ayr 2 Morton 1
Good result after being 1 down at half-time. The winner came in the
last couple of minutes.
Del.
|
49.873 | Reporter returns..... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 02 1994 10:05 | 40 |
| Ayr United 2 - 1 Morton
Two precious points were gained last night in the fight against relegation
with this victory over the doomed Morton. However for long periods it looked
like the Greenock men may cause a major upset by stealing the points in a
game which never threatened to hit the heights. Ayr pressed first and Wyllie
was relieved to see an overhead effort by McGivern slip past the post in the
first minute. Morton came into the game and went in front when an Anderson
cross was flicked on by Lilley and Alexander rose above Spence to send a
looping header into the empty net after 15 minutes. This should have sparked
a revival from Ayr , but their lacklustre performance continued until half
time with only a Moore drive which was well saved by Wyllie and a Traynor
run which should have brought a penalty , to appease the home fans.
The second 45 was far more entertaining and this was largely due to Simon
Stainrod's introduction of Brian Bilsland for the ineffectual Ross Jack
after 50 minutes. His enthusiasm was boundless and he scampered about the
right wing , knocking in crosses and giving Pickering a hard time at left back.
In 64 minutes a snapshot from the edge of the box by Bilsland was parried out
for a corner by Wyllie. The corner was partially cleared as far as Shotton and
he drove the ball low into the right hand corner of the net from 15 yards for
a deserved equaliser. Ayr had their tails up now and the feeling in the crowd
was that the winner was inevitable. However , Ayr were almost shocked when
Lilley (miles offside) ran onto a through ball and bore down on goal, but his
off target shot slipped past the post. Tom Woods, a sub for the injured Biggart
should have done better when through on goal but elected to shoot when a square
pass would have found an unmarked McGivern.
Minutes later Morton were reduced to 10 men when Tolmie was shown the yellow
then the red for his second offence. First card was for dissent, second for
an assault on McGlashan. 1 minute later and Ayr were in front. A corner was
cleared to the edge of the box and Bilsland met it full on the volley to send
a swerving shot high into the net from 20 yards. He was mobbed by jubilant Ayr
players and a large Golden Retriever and when he emerged from the celebrations,
he had a wee celebration of his own in front of the home fans.
The match ended soon afterwards and the Ayr support trooped home releived.
Best for Ayr were Shotton and Bilsland with McGivern and McGlashan having
quiet nights. Off to Hamilton on Saturday - 2 points are a must.
Kev...
|
49.874 | Journalistic bullsh*t | BUSSTP::DSMITH | They've only played 10 seconds.. | Thu Mar 03 1994 04:24 | 10 |
|
re last
Kev, whit's this about "a large Golden Retriever"? Is this a private
joke or am I missing something here?
We must be told.
Danny.
|
49.875 | Would I lie ? | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Mar 03 1994 08:58 | 13 |
| No Bull Danny,
As the Ayr players celebrated the winning goal, then moved back to
their own half, a large Golden Retriever ran onto the pitch from the
break in the perimeter wall near the end of the stand. Before the
restart, it ran about congratulating Ayr players and attempting to bite
lumps out of Morton players, before Malky Shotton got it in a
half-nelson and carried it off the pitch and the physio took it up the
tunnel. There is a rumour going round that the ref (Hugh Dallas) tried
to book the aforementioned dug for entering the field of play without
permission and without having his studs checked.....
Kev....
|
49.876 | Dogs ain't my strong point.... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Mar 03 1994 13:11 | 8 |
| Seems I'm a wee bit off the truth after all. I read in the paper today
that it was a greyhound called Flash not a Retriever. I was fooled by
the fact that Malky managed to catch it. Could you see Malky catching a
greyhound ? I think not....
Okay Steep ? ;-)
Kev...
|
49.877 | Fans on Merseyside | YOUWOT::MOOREHEADM | Reading, ware the Fox hat.! | Tue Mar 08 1994 12:31 | 18 |
| From The Guardian 8 March 1994
"Solicitors' firms these days do a lot of sponsoring of local sporting teams or
events, even if only paying for the match ball. It's rarer for barristers'
chambers to sponsor, but I've now ben informed of a chambers sponsoring, albeit
modeslty, a football team that plays far away (indeed, in another footballing
country), with which neither the chambers nor any of it's members has any link,
and whose sporting progress has hitherto been of no interest to any of the lawers.
The Liverpool chambers of Nigel Gilmore QC are investing, for no apparent reason,
in Ary United; they've also adopted Ary United shirts for the chambers' team and
many of them are travelling up to Ayr to watch the next home game."
Are Everton and Liverpool really that bad at the moment, well yes thay are but
I mean AYR Utd!!!!!??????
8-}
Martin M.
|
49.878 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Mar 08 1994 13:59 | 12 |
| While we're on the subject of tenuous links, Rod Stewart is also a
life member of the club. If only he could invest some dosh, we might do
a bit better on the field.
BTW How much are these chappies from Merseyside investing in 'Ary Utd'
?
What is the link, if any ?
Kev....
|
49.879 | Hammered 2-1 | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Mar 08 1994 14:00 | 57 |
| Hamilton Accies 2 - 1 Ayr United
This has to be the worst performance since Stainrod took over. Ian Munro had
obviously done his homework on Ayr and used the dearth of pace in the defence
to great effect. Playing up the slope, on a quagmire of a pitch that is unfit
for farmyard animals, let alone footballers (cue a joke there somewhere) Ayr
were up against it from the first minute. As usual Ayr flattered to deceive
and after their first attack was broken up, Hamilton raced down the park and
a pass was floated past Mair to young Derek McGill who hit a low hard cross
into the 6-yard box where that wee nyaff Duffield met it and steered it past
Spence for a 6th minute opener. Play continued to be in Ayr's portion of the
field and it was no surprise when Hamilton went further ahead in the 11th
minute. Shotton was shafted for about the 4th time and McGill ran through the
defence and bore down on goal. Spence came out to meet him and forced him wide,
too wide, I thought, to score, but no, he somehow squeezed the ball in at the
back post from a position 20 yards wide of goal and 3 yards from the bye-line.
2-0 to Accies and the future looked bleak for Ayr. The weather turned worse and
we were treated to more ice dancing than a Lillehammer audience as the pitch
took on the consistency of bostik. A very sleet/snow shower came on and
visibility dropped to less than 40 yards. Play deteriorated (I did not think
it could get any worse) and we slithered to half-time with Duffield missing
an open goal in the last minute.
Second half saw a couple of changes with the pedestrian Shotton replaced by
debutant Cameron Connie who moved to left midfield. McGlashan switched to
right midfield and Traynor to centre-half with Kevin Biggart moving to
right-back. Ayr pushed more into the game but were almost caught when a through
ball eluded Hood but McGill should have done better than miss the target with
only Spence to beat. Spence was again called into action when he brilliantly
blocked a shot from Duffield and then knocked the rebound out for a corner.
Bilsland was the liveliest attacker I've seen in an Ayr jersey for years and his
appetite for the game was tremendous. He looks to be a real find and I expect
him to hold down a first team place if he recovers from the knock he picked up
on Saturday. Ayr had chances to score and were denied one goal when the ball
was knocked home but the ref ruled a hand had been used in the build-up. Again
we survived a scare when Duffield/McGill combined again only to see the shot
slip past the post. Ayr did score on 74 minutes when McGivern met McGlashan's
nearpost corner and flicked it home via the bar. Ayr were spurred on by this
and had further chances to equalise but in all honesty it would have been a
travesty had we taken a point from this match. Hamilton were tactically superior
ina most areas except for attack. If Ayr had missed that many chances, I would
have been raging. Accies controlled midfield and their defence coped well
under pressure from the pace of Bilsland who was Ayr's only threat. I reckon
next week may see Cammy return, Burns return and Spence and Biggart being
dropped. Shotton is incapable of playing as a centre-half against a speedy
striker so I would keep Traynor at centre. Stainrod was fuming at the goals
we gave away and so was the travelling support. Simon called them 'amateurish'
and that was complimentary, it was more like 'pathetic'
All in all , a poor performance with too many players shown up for the
rubbish they really are. Lennox and Moore were lost in midfield, McGlashan
hasn't a clue where he is playing and Mair had his worst game for months.
Simon now has food for thought.
Kev.....
|
49.880 | Yoo Hoo! Anyone at home ? | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 09 1994 08:56 | 17 |
| Shotton has a hamstring injury which will make him doubtful for the
visit of Dunfermline. Burns will return and Stainrod is training this
week with a view to making his home debut. I reckon the team could be;
Spence
Burns Traynor Hood Mair
Biggart Lennox Moore McGlashan
Bilsland McGivern
subs Connie,Stainrod,Duncan
Anyone else care to hazard a guess/add a note/show a sign of life ???
Kev...
|
49.881 | Sign that Dug, Simon | SSMPRD::BMURRAY | golden greyhound retrievers | Thu Mar 10 1994 12:39 | 6 |
| Kevin,
I would have the same team, with the exeption of Rover as sub
(if fit). Remember that Super Simon and Malky will be in the plant
today.
Billy.
|
49.882 | We're not worthy...... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Mar 10 1994 16:51 | 17 |
| I detect a mild pi$$take with the mail header, Billy. ;-)
Actually , Flash (not Rover) has a strained back due to being carted
off the pitch unceremoniously and dumped in the arms of the physio so
will not be available for Saturday's match.
Sir Simon and the Messiah did indeed visit the plant this afternoon and
was quite happy to answer questions about his plans for the team and
for the ground. There are a few things happening IF we stay up and in
Sir's own words 'There will be a few surprises' He also hinted that
there may be further signings and that the chairman was quite keen to
sign a certain Airdrie player who has been in the news recently but
Simon wants to wait until the correct moment before making a move for
him..
Kev...
|
49.883 | | EASE::SMYTH | | Thu Mar 10 1994 17:06 | 9 |
| Is the lennox the son of Bobby Lennox who used to play for Celtic.
If he is then the he is useless as he played in the League of Ireland for Derry
City.
He played for a few games then wanted a 25,000 pound signing on fee and was told
where to go.
Gavin.
|
49.884 | Never as good as his dad ! | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Mar 11 1994 08:34 | 7 |
| Yes it's the same Lennox. He joined Ayr from Derry but did not receive
any signing on fee. He still has a bit to prove although playing for
Stainrod has given him a lift. He is an ex-teammate of Simon's from
Falkirk. Which position did he play for Derry and how many games did
he play ?
Kev....
|
49.885 | RE Derry City | EASE::SMYTH | | Fri Mar 11 1994 09:55 | 10 |
| Played centre of the park along with Neil Mc Nabb now and old 35+ who left us to
go and manage Whitton Albion in England.
In total he played about 10 games for the club and was hated be the fans as
there were much better players on the bench, but thankfully he has gone and
Derry City have gone from strength to strength from 12th and last to fifth.
Gavin
|
49.886 | Trivia buff.... | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Mar 11 1994 11:27 | 9 |
| Neil McNab started the season with Ayr after a free from Tranmere. He
left us after 6 of the most abysmal performances I've seen in years. He
supposedly left to join Darlington but as far as I am aware, he never
got there. He obviously stopped off at Derry on the way. He had the
cheek to suggest his poor form was due to the travelling to Ayr from
his home in Manchester so I am not surprised he left Derry as well.
How did he perform for them ?
Kev...
|
49.887 | Derry City | EASE::SMYTH | | Fri Mar 11 1994 15:08 | 49 |
| Neil Mc Nabb joined Derry City on a week to week basis getting 500 pounds plus
expenses flying in on a Saturday and out on a Sunday. Initially he was not fit
and overweight but after 2 -3 games started to really perform in midfield, he
was particularly good for Derry City.
Along with Neil Mc Nabb came Scott 'the blond bimbo' Mc Garvey Ex Man Utd 500 a
match who was useless as he seemed to be afraid to tackle also came Luther
Blissett Ex Watford and AC Milan 1000 a match apparently Milan thought they
were getting John Barnes he scored a couple of goals but left after a month.
After the departure of Mc Nabb Derry got Peter bite your ankles Reid but he
wanted too much mone 1700 and was told where to go so he went to Notts County
where he is on a pay as you play contract.
Derry City also have used a number of other players from Scotland
Currently playing for Derry are
Central Defender Stuart Guald
Started off playing in central midfield
Formely with Hearts 45 games with 1 goal then banned from the Scotish leagure
and the English for hitting the referee deliberately i think he has been
outstanding for derry for in excess of 6 years, definitely could have gone far
except for the ban.
Left Back Paul Mc Laughlin
Used to play for Celtic, not very fast but definitely a hard tackler and nothing
gets passed him. Flown in and out from Scotland every weekend to play for Derry.
Left Midfield Paul Kinnaird or Kinnard
Good at going past but final delivery of a ball from the wing poor.
Former Derry City player now team coach
Central defender Jack Keay
Good solid defender no messing used to play for Celtic, now settled down with a
family and enjoying life in Derry.
One other player who played a number of games a few years ago was Alan
Sunderland of Arsenal fame who came over for a cup run and Derry won great
player with plenty of vision and skill.
Gavin
|
49.888 | Where do u get the money? | BUSSTP::DSMITH | Tears of a clown..fatboys's back | Fri Mar 11 1994 15:35 | 9 |
|
Re Derry City,
what are the average crowds at your home games? Do you have good
sponsers to pay the air fares and wages of players travelling from
Scotland/England.
Danny.
|
49.889 | Derry City | EASE::SMYTH | | Fri Mar 11 1994 16:17 | 58 |
| Derry are the biggest supported clubs in the league of ireland with an average
gate in excess of 6500. The ground can hold 11,000 with seats for 4000.
Sponsorship is plentiful with the largest bgin fruit of the loom with 30,000
yearly for the jersey sponsorship.
Stuart Gauld Lives in Derry and fruit of the loom gave him a job along with paul
kinnaird so that only leaves one player flown in every weekend from scotland.
Average wages are hig with all the players employed outside the game of betweeen
150 - 380 McLaughlin on 500.
Squad size of 17, most mainly from derry one Frenchman and the 3 scots. below is
the line up
Derry sold a player to Celtic under Brady's reign for 50000 Nigel Melly a
centre half a la Gary Gillespie mould
Dermot O'Neill
Cost 15000 Voted Best goalie in league
Pascal Vaudequin Paul Mc Laughlin
Free Transfer Played for 500 match
Auxerre and Le Harve wife from derry
Stuart Gauld Paul Curran
Free Civil Servant
Peter Hutton Paul Kinnaird
20 yrs old Derryman came through Free
ranks, interest from Spurs
Donal O'Brien Paul Mc Keever
3000 Australian Free
Liam Coyle Joe Lawless
24yr old Derryman went on 5000 Aged28
trial to Forest, they were set to
for 160,000 but he failed the medical
with a dodgy knee but still bagging the goals
It is a well run club with plenty of Euorpean matches that guarantee a full
house.
Playing Benfica lost 1-2 at home in Brandywell when totally outplaying them,
then went to the Stadium of Light in front of 700000 Portuguese and lost 4-0
obviously overcome with the atmosphere.
Gavin
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49.890 | Must have been an awfi big stadium ! | KIRKTN::JJACK | Sugar Diabetes...The Welsh Flyweight | Fri Mar 11 1994 20:35 | 13 |
|
<<Then went to the Stadium of Light in front of 700000 Portuguese and lost 4-0
obviously overcome with the atmosphere.>>
I Think I would be too if I played in front of seven hundred thousand
fans !
8*)
Gavin
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49.891 | Sorry meant 70,000 perople capacity I think is in excess of 100,000 people | EASE::SMYTH | | Mon Mar 14 1994 10:19 | 0 |
49.892 | only 1 point ahead.... | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Mar 15 1994 16:36 | 55 |
| Ayr United 0 - 4 Dunfermline
A dreadful performance from Ayr with no player really living up to
expectation. A few changes were made and the team lined up as follows
Duncan,Burns,Mair,Donaldson,Hood,Traynor,Lennox,Woods,McGivern,Bilsland
and McGlashan with Stainrod and Biggart on the bench. The teams kicked
off in poor conditions which worsened considerably throughout the
match. Ayr's young trialist from Baillieston Juniors was called into
action early on and this set the tone for the game with Ayr's defence
easily the busiest and shakiest. Burns pulled a hamstring early on and
was struggling for pace most of the match , however the real problems
appeared to lie in midfield where Ayr were short on ideas and
commitment. The first goal came in 13 minutes when Mair was woefully
short with a passback and in the ensuing melee, the ball broke off
Cammy straight to Ivo Den Bieman who rolled the ball into an empty net.
Ayr continued to live dangerously in defence and pose little threat
upfront. The frailties of the rearguard were cruelly exposed minutes
later when Donaldson , under pressure, nodded the ball down to O'Boyle
but Duncan blocked the point blank shot. Den Bieman came close again
when he slipped in behind the defence but wasted an easy scoring
opportunity by blasting straight at Duncan. Ayr hardly had an attack
and those which did materialise were easily dealt with by Cooper and
McCathie. Ayr were badly missing the organisational abilities of
Shotton and the defence were at sixes and sevens throughout the
remainder of the half. Donaldson was booked for a late tackle although
it was his first foul.
The Pars scored in the first minute of the second half when McNamara's
cross was missed by everyone and fell to Petrie who hammered it across
Duncan and into the far corner. This effectively knocked the stuffing
out of Ayr and they looked beaten even at this early juncture. Stainrod
had made an appearance himself at the expense of Hoody who was suffering
from a bad back. The boss is about 1.5 stone overweight at least and is
enjoying the office job a bit too much I think. He did however put
himself about and Cooper and McCathie will know he was playing I'm
sure. Ray Sharp was fortunate not to earn his 3rd red card of the
season for elbowing Bilsland in full view of the ref and linesman, who
flagged for the infringement. Cooper then conceded a free-kick on the
edge of the box with a 2 footed challenge of Bilsland (again no
booking)but Stainrod's weak effort was blocked. Ayr fell further behind
when Petrie hammered home a shot from the edge of the box after a cut-
back fell kindly for him and lost another when Smith missed a header
from a Petrie cross and the ball ricocheted into the net off the
luckless Donaldson's shoulder. 4-0 and the game had 20 minutes to go.
Ayr showed a little fight but it was too little too late. McGlashan
missed an easy chance and Stainrod failed to connect in front of an
open goal. This gubbing may encourage SS to spend some cash on a
midfielder and perhaps a lef-back. Biggart came on for Burns and for my
money, only he and Donaldson showed anything like the effort required
from a team in the predicament Ayr are in. Wholesale changes are
required but as we face Falkirk at Brockville next week, who do we
bring in ? Whoever it is will surely be a sacrificial lamb to the
slaughter........
Kev......
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49.893 | Ooh aah Cantona.....? | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Mar 17 1994 13:47 | 4 |
| According to the Sun (it must be true), Ayr have Joel Cantona up for a
trial from an English club (Portsmouth ?)
Kev...
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49.894 | He's a good un... | BUSSTP::DSMITH | Tears of a clown..fatboys's back | Thu Mar 17 1994 13:59 | 12 |
|
Kev, I believe he's currently on trial with Stockport Reserves but
he didn't do enough to earn a contract. He's a free agent after
Peterborough United turned him down and is described as a silky
midfielder desperate to play in Britain.
Danny.
ps Stockport Reserves lost 3 - 0 to Carlisle Reserves. Looks like
Ooh Aah junior could fit into our crap quite easily.
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49.895 | another defeat.... | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Mar 23 1994 15:19 | 38 |
| Falkirk 2 - 0 Ayr United
I had the misfortune to witness this match from within the confines of the
Brockville stand. Having picked up our free tickets, the stewards would not
allow us to join the Ayr support on the terracing so we had to sit in section
C , beside the home fans. This proved to be a problem as the locals did not
take too kindly to me giving their team, particularly Dragutin 'Oscar Nominee'
Rstic, some verbal ear-bashing. However the game started in usual fashion, Ayr
on the defensive and we continued our recent trend of losing early goals when
a through ball from McCall found Shaw , Traynor and Duncan all challenging.
Duncan got there first but his attempted clearance struck Traynor full on the
face and rolled in front of Shaw who had the easiest of chances to put the
Bairns one-up. Ayr did press more than last week and it wasn't quite the
humiliation I expected. Falkirk kept pushing but the combination of a strong
wind, poor pitch and in Richard Cadette, a striker who has wasted more good
balls than Joan Collins, the score remained this way until half-time. Cammy
had redeemed himself with two good saves after his earlier blunder but in
60 minutes was beaten again when neat interpassing released that prolific
goalscorer , Neil Oliver, and his weak angled shot somehow squirmed below the
body of Duncan and trickled over the line. Ayr withdrew Mair , who suffered
a medial ligament strain , and Ross Jack and replaced them with Brian Bilsland
and Man-mountain, Simon Stainrod. This brought tremendous applause from all
in the ground as SS made his return. He did not however, turn in a performance
to remember as he continually fouled, dived, fell and carried on some sort
of running battle with Davie Dodds' lovechild , John Hughes. Good Looking SOB
Yogi and I don't think. The game was played more in Falkirk's half in the latter
stages as Ayr pressed for a consolation but poor finishing cost them the chance
to make the score respectable. A better performance but still a long way from
the finished article.
We must thank the boys of Greenock Morton for gubbing Stirling 3-0 for their
first victory since November 17th. That result kept Ayr 1 point clear of the
relegation positions. Clydebank at home (they have won 4 in a row so must be
due a defeat) on Saturday and Stirling away next Tuesday. 4 points are required
but I'm willing to bet that Kevin Drinkell opens his account for Stirling
against Ayr in the 8th minute. You heard it here first.....
Kev......
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49.896 | Big games coming up | BUSSTP::DSMITH | Tears of a clown..fatboys's back | Sun Mar 27 1994 11:16 | 19 |
|
Ayr 0 Clydebank 0
As usual, I wasn't at the game but by all accounts Ayr could of
had both points. Next 2 games are crucial in the quest for survival.
Away to Stirling on Tuesday is 1 game Ayr cannot afford to loose. If
they manage to win and then defeat Brechin at home on Saturday, they
should be pretty safe. Stirling are away to Dunfermline on Saturday
so hopefully they'll follow up a defeat by us with a richt good
gubbin.
Danny.
ps Nice to see our country bumpkins from the north of the county being
finally found out for the crap they are. If they loose to St.
Johnstone on Tuesday and Hearts on Saturday then they'll have to
kiss goodbye to the premier and look forward to renewing their
aquaintance with the dives in division 1.
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49.897 | United we stand !!!!!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | | Sun Mar 27 1994 20:00 | 27 |
|
Dan/Kev,
Well I went along to Somerset yesterday not really knowing what
to expect,Ayr were coming of the back of two sound beatings and the
Bankies had just won three on the trot .So it came as a bit of a shock
to see Utd dominate the game from start to finish.After 10 mins it
should have been all over, both McGivern and Hood crashed the underside
of the crossbar with the Bankies defence all over the place both times
the ball was scrambled away.This set the mood of the game for the next
80 mins, with the Bankies occational ventures up the park being cleared
up by Shotton,Burns and new signing McViacar who had a bit of a blinder
other than a his lack of pace he looked the part and maybe is the answer
to our left full back problem .
It has also got to be said that the hefty one had a great game
he put himself about and played some really nice stuff,particularly in the
1st half, although it is also quite clear he isn't the fastest forward in
the league .I thought most of the team had good games with the possible
exceptions of Moore and Traynor who will just not do at this level.SS
knows this as well and is trying to sign up a Premier League midfielder
for the game at Stirling on Tuesday .Lets hope he gets his man and we
get the points we need to stay in theis league next term.
Its looking very like the boys from the black stuff will be back
in the first division next year and that will be a pity 8*)))
SQFHM..
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49.898 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Mar 29 1994 22:26 | 8 |
|
Stirling 1 Ayr 3
(Burns,McGivern 2)
Great result tonight. 2pts at home to Brechin on Saturday, should see
us stay up.
Del.
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49.899 | Super Simon's black and white army !!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | | Wed Mar 30 1994 00:48 | 19 |
| Stirling 1 Ayr United 3
The game was almost a carbon copy of Saturday's game only this time
our early chances were tucked away unlike the ones at the weekend.
The 1st goal was a bit of a belter with Burns shooting home from the
edge of the box after a build up of around 10 passes,with most of the
team involved.The 2nd was just as good with McGivern finishing of a
brilliant Burns pass.Sammy sealed the match with a 18 yarder early in
the 2nd half.Stirling huffed and puffed but were totally out gunned for
the whole game,although Drinkel did head a late counter .
All in all a good result from a much improved Utd side.I can't see
Stirling or Dumbarton taking 4 points more than us in the run in.So
we'll be in this league again next year for sure.However we will need
to get plenty of new faces in to survive next year.
MOM ... Simon Stainrod ...His backheels and flicks were worth the six
quid alone .
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49.900 | Stainrod....is that noah a pest control company | KIRKTN::DMILNE | | Wed Mar 30 1994 15:08 | 12 |
| Sal,
What do you mean by hi "highheels and flicks were worth 6 quid" ???
Puzzled of Boness.
|
49.901 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Mar 31 1994 14:40 | 15 |
| Sal obviously nipped into "Gorgeous Bob's" in Sterling, (near
Tillicoultry) for a quick hairdo and some costumier advice before
setting out for Forthbank.
It's run by that ageing poseur ex-Squirrel , Robert Reilly who is
obviously attempting to diversify in business now that his footballing
career is over (it's been over for years actually).
Seriously though, Simon Stainrod's outrageous flick from a Burns free
kick , was indeed worth the entrance fee alone. Although he may be 2
or more stone overweight and 35 years old, he is still worth watching.
Drinkell on the other hand , looks like a complete waste of Stirling
cash.
Kev...
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49.902 | The Lager was good ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Apr 05 1994 17:47 | 26 |
|
Ayr United 0 - 0 Brechin City
As Digital sponsored this match, I was asked to be a guest of the company and
as such had a seat in the directors box. The hospitality and welcome were
far more entertaining than the match which was predictably dour. Brechin's
last away game resulted in a 9-1 mauling from Hamilton, but there was no
chance of a repeat as they played with a 5 man defence and were happy to sit
in and hope for a breakaway chance. Ayr lacked ideas and penetration and failed
to master the windy/rainy/sunny/snowy conditions which did much to spoil the
encounter. Ayr's best chance fell to McGivern who latched on to a speculative
Burns pass and homed in on goal, only to be foiled by the excellent Balfour
in the Brechin goal. Ayr did have the ball in the net from a McVicar corner
but Simon Stainrod was adjudged to have pushed the goalie in heading the ball
in. A harsh decision and one which the refereeing supervisor , Tom Wharton
was quick to spot from his vantage point in front of me. The rest of the match
was a non-event. Ayr camped in Brechin's half but could not find a way to goal
and when they were close, they wasted any half-chance they had. Stainrod had
appeals for a penalty turned down although he was clearly pushed while trying
to control the ball. The match petered out and we retired to the boardroom
where we found that all the other results went our way and we now had a 4 point
lead over Dumbarton and Stirling. I confidently predict that should we win our
third last game at home to Clyde, we will be assured of First Division footy
next season.
Kev...
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49.903 | A LARGE ONE PLEASE! | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Thu Apr 07 1994 10:54 | 6 |
| Kevin,
Nice match report considering that if Tom Wharton was sitting in front of
you, you couldn't have seen much of the game!
Gavin
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49.904 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Apr 07 1994 12:03 | 12 |
| Aye Gavin,
And the big fella was quick to disappear when I started to ask why he
is always at Somerset. His visits seem to coincide with a really poor
performance by the ref. Last week, he was at the home match against
Clydebank and the ref had an absolute stinker. We always seem to get
the YTS referees....
Young Thick and Stupid
Kev....
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49.905 | Pass the Beta-Blockers..... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Apr 12 1994 14:40 | 43 |
| Ayr United 2 - 3 Airdrieonians
Another poor defensive display cost al least a point, possibly two in
Saturday's game. Duncan was back in nets as Spence has badly damaged an
arm in a 25 foot fall from a ladder. He has dislocated his elbow,wrist
and thumb, ouch ! Ayr's juvenile defending on a gluepot of a pitch had
Stainrod raging as they gifted 2 goals inside the first 28 minutes. In
10 minutes , Shotton was woefully short with a passback and Duncan was
very fortunate to remain on the pitch after handling outside the area.
I assume the ref let him away with it because of the conditions. In 14
minutes Airdrie went ahead when Smith rose unchallenged to head home
into the far corner. Airdrie, playing without any pressure, went
further ahead when Davenport latched onto a passback from Hood and
waltzed past Duncan and along the byeline. Ho bore in on goal and shot
straight at Don McVicar on the goaline and it went through his legs.
Ayr replied immediately with Stainrod controlling the ball in the box
and firing home via Kenny Black. Ayr pushed hard for the equaliser and
were rewarded in first half injury time when Stainrod glanced a Burns
corner in off the base of the far post after a McGivern shot had been
pushed over the bar by Martin.
Stainrod subbed himself 3 minutes into the second half and Woods came
on. Ayr went behind again in the 55th minute when Stewart rose
unchallenged to head a Connelly corner over Duncan for the winner.
Several times after that, Airdrie were left with simple chances to
increase their lead but good goalkeeping and poor finishing kept the
score at 2-3. Bilsland had an effort in the 83rd minute held on the
line by Martin and that was Ayr's last chance. A poor defensive
performance from Ayr and the midfield also had a bit of an off-day.
Only Traynor,McGivern and Stainrod had good games and several players
notably Shotton, Hood,McGlashan and Biggart will have to step up the
work rate if they are to remain in the side. Ayr may rue not signing
Gary Paterson as a big target man would be invaluable in the run-in.
6 games to go for Ayr and Stirling, 7 for Dumbarton. Ayr are still 4
points clear of both clubs. It should be too difficult for either of
those teams to catch us . I expect Ayr to pick up 5 or 6 points in the
final 6 games so that would leave Stirling or Dumbarton needing to pick
up 9 or 10 points from 12 (or 14 in the Sons case) to stay up.
Knicker-gripping stuff....
Kev...
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49.906 | Off to Greenock. | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Apr 15 1994 17:29 | 18 |
| Dumbarton and Morton both lost in midweek.
The table looks like this;
GD Pts
Ayr -10 36
Dumbarton -6 32
Stirling Alb -19 32
Games this weekend
Morton v Ayr Draw
Airdrie v Dumbarton Home win
Clydebank v Stirling Draw
There will still be 4 points in it, with 10 points available.
Kev.....
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49.907 | Loadsa confidence | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Tue Apr 19 1994 02:38 | 11 |
|
Kev, I hope you didn't have money on your predictions! Ayr won at
Greenock, Dumbarton drew and Stirling lost. This puts Ayr 5 points
clear of Dumbarton which should be enough to ensure first division
football next season. The question is, is anyone interested? Will
Stainrod get money to spend on new players? If he doesn't, Ayr will
very likely struggle again next season in the new formation, ie,
they'll be relegated next time round.
Danny.
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49.908 | Stayin' Up | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Apr 19 1994 09:52 | 10 |
| You know me Dan, I only put a coupon on when Del boy says I haven't a
chance of winning ;-)
Seriously though, I expected Stirling to put up a better fight than
they did against relegation, I did not expect the Sons to get an
equaliser in the 86th minute and I did not expect Morton to be the
clueless bunch of misfits I witnessed on Saturday. But I ain't
complainin'
Kev....
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49.909 | We DO win occasionally! | VERVAN::GORDON | Ludere Causa Ludendi | Tue Apr 19 1994 18:20 | 6 |
| It seems appropriate to note that Queen's Park reserves beat Ayr
reserves 4-1 last night, with Shotton(!) scoring for Ayr.
Cheers.
David.
|
49.910 | Get yer maps oot | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Apr 20 1994 09:57 | 7 |
| Isn't it a pity that the First XI can't do as well as the reserves
David ?
Perhaps if they had , you wouldn't be facing a couple of trips to
Dingwall and Inverness next year.
Kev....
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49.911 | two derby games next season !!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Wed Apr 20 1994 11:35 | 7 |
|
Kev,
How's about a match report from the Morton game ? I hear this new
guy McKerrigan is a dud is that the case ?
|
49.912 | 4 derby games next year ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Apr 20 1994 12:55 | 54 |
| Morton 0-1 Ayr United
This result condemned Morton to at least one season searching out the
likes of Berwick and Stenhousemuir on the atlas after Brian Bilsland's
'drop' goal sent Ayr down the coast with their eighth away win of the
season. A reasonable match watched by only 1169 supporters and for a
change it was not torrential rain in the Stadio de Cappielow.
Ayr were never seriously threatened by Morton but did cause a few
problems in our own defence with bad defending and poor clearances.
First half was mainly a midfield struggle with Mahood having the
better of Traynor and McKILLIGAN having a GOOD MATCH trying to cover
for the inadequacies of Biggart and Mair. He was involved mainly in
destructive play, breaking up Morton attacks and harrassing the
defenders into mistakes. I felt this was his best match since signing
and it's the first time I felt he has been an asset to the side. He
played in a sort of Duncan George role although he won more aerial duels
in one match than George has all season. ALexander gave Hood a torrid
time but Shotton was always on hand to help out as Lilley was no threat
at all. Best chance of the first half fell to McKilligan after good
work on the left by Sammy but his low hard shot skimmed past Wyllie's
left hand post. Morton were a threat only at corners when the height,
weight and pushing abilities of Dougie Johnstone were seen to full
effect. He really has gone downhill and I think would be better of
donning the cricket whites again rather than the tartan toffee strip.
Second half brought little change in the pattern of play with Ayr
content to catch Morton offside all the time but continue to threaten
with the runs of Sammy and Brian 'The Whippet' Bilsland who was a sub
for SS. Woods also came on for Mair but was ineffectual again. I feel
he may be released at the end of the year. Sammy dropped to midfield
to allow the 2 new boys to play up front and this proved to be the
turning point as a pass from Sammy found Bilsland homing in with only
the keeper to beat. Alas he skied it miserably over the bar but made
amends minutes later when a Shotton clearance fell kindly over the
defence and Bilsland used his pace to outstrip Anderson and lob the
ball over the advancing Wyllie for a killer 81st minute goal. That's 2
goals he's scored, both against Morton, both late on and both proved to
be winners. The final whistle went and the Ayr players were jubilant,
as were the supporters. I'm happy that I don't have that god
awful 1.5 hour 40 mile run, behind all the Mini Metro drivers in the
west of Scotland , just to visit Renfrew's answer to the Everglades for
at least another 15 months.
Best for Ayr; Shotton (as ever)
McKilligan (Sal, who said he was a dud ?)
Duncan (1 excellent save, looked solid)
Poor games McVicar
Biggart ( almost sliced a clearance into his own net)
Mair (did not look fit)
Kev...
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49.913 | eight derby games next season ! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Wed Apr 20 1994 13:18 | 7 |
|
Re last,
Kev,I only said I heard he was a dud as I have never seen him
play I can't comment on his ability at the moment .
Any rumours oon who the new face's will be for next season ?
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49.914 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Apr 21 1994 10:12 | 17 |
| That's what I meant Sal, who told you he was a dud ?
As for new faces. I fully expect Gary Paterson to be one of them.
I don't know who else.
Who will get the chop ?
Barry Scott
Nigel Howard
Tom Woods
Richie Williams
Gary Lennox
Colin McGlashan
Any more ideas ?
Kev...
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49.915 | Back to the Railway End !!!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Thu Apr 21 1994 11:28 | 27 |
|
Kev, I heard it from three people who saw him play for us in
recent games .I also heard that his only first team outings with
Thistle this season were at fullback,so maybe his future is at the back
and Staz is just letting him fill in at the moment in the middle of the
park.I would hope this is the case because we will need at least two
quality players in there next year if we are to at least stay in the
1st div.
Players I would like to see us go for include Philiben for
centre half as Malky is all but finished .Paterson would also be a good
asset at centre back or forward.
As I said we need two good players in the middle of the park
where they will come from is anyones guess but I have a feeling we may
again bid for Millar of Hearts.
Up front we are really needing a prolific goal scorer in the
Caddett mould .I would like to see us bust the bank and go for Thompson
of QoS as he has been on 30 goals a season for some time now.It may be
a risk but its one we should take.
Players out: add Mair and either George or Moore to your list
and it is possible that one of the keepers will go.With maybe Money
coming to us from the Saints .....8-(
SQFHM..
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49.916 | I must be going MAD !!!! | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Things,can only get better...NOT | Thu Apr 21 1994 11:47 | 10 |
|
Sal........
If it is a prolific goal scorer that Utd need, then why not tip
off Staz about the availability of one
Wayne Foster (Hibs Buster) of Hearts
SQF Jambo #1
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49.917 | not SUPER WAYNE....!!!!!!!!!!!!! | PAKORA::TDOLAN | Ovaltine loooooooooooight | Thu Apr 21 1994 12:04 | 12 |
|
Sid,
i thought the rumour was that Hibs Buster Wayne Foster was on his
way to Rangers....
8*))))))))))
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49.918 | Mercer wants the cash | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Things,can only get better...NOT | Thu Apr 21 1994 12:21 | 8 |
|
Tam,
I think that was just a rumour !!!!
Mclaren is going to Rangers though and we are getting
Big Bird,Durrant plus �1million ????????
SQF Jambo #1
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49.919 | Where's our sugar-daddy | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Fri Apr 22 1994 01:36 | 14 |
|
Kev, Sal, it's all very well talking about signing new players but
you have to remember that the players you are talking about are
currently playing full-time football with premier league clubs. Where
the hell are Ayr going to get the money to a) pay the transfer fee,
b) pay signing on fees and c) pay these guys wages? I don't think there
is a David Murray or a Jack Walker ready to invest large sums of money
into the club. Face facts lads, Ayr are always going to be an average
mid table first or second division club.
Danny.
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49.920 | I'm hopeful ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Apr 22 1994 09:55 | 11 |
| As I said before Danny, Ayr have a lot of plans , all hingeing on
survival this season. When I asked what these plans were, I was met
with silence but several hints around new players, ground
reconstruction, major investment/takeover by Cameron/Barr etc etc.
We'll just have to wait and see what happens but I don't expect SS to
hang around if he is not given the cash to do a good job. I doubt
whether he would have come in the first place if he felt that the board
were content to be a first/second division club.
Kev...
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49.921 | Care in communication | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Apr 22 1994 13:28 | 15 |
| This message is from Jim Manderson
My attention has been drawn to an input from JROWAN in January this
year, where the message about Ayr's signing at that time,Kevin Biggart,
was verging on being libellous. I think the communication was intended
to be helpful, but went OTT in blackening the young player's character,
viz a viz "drink problem etc". The notes file is read by many people,
and I believe that respect for ALL individuals is paramount, especially
when using a Digital sponsored network. I don't think Kevin Biggart's
employers(Ayr United), would be very happy to see our company network,
presenting disparaging information about one of their employees. I
think his mother, a Digital employee, would be similarly upset.
If you cannot say something good about somebody, don't say it.
Jim Manderson, Corporate Communications Manager(Scotland)
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49.922 | | PEKING::COSSEYN | | Fri Apr 22 1994 15:00 | 6 |
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SERIOUS QUESTION...
Is Jim Mamderson still working for digital.....
Neil...
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49.923 | yes ! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Fri Apr 22 1994 15:05 | 1 |
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49.924 | Do you know him ? | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Apr 22 1994 16:36 | 11 |
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Yes Neil , Jim Manderson is still working at Digital. He does not have
access to notes from his account, which is why the note appeared under
my name.
SERIOUS QUESTION.
Why do you want to know ?
Kev....
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49.925 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Fri Apr 22 1994 22:01 | 16 |
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Not to jump the gun any....but it looks as though we're pretty safe
now. Looking forward to next season, it's going to be a cracking
league. It's all been said before but we really do have to sign at
least 5 or 6 players all of which have to be better than what we have
already. If we don't I can see us and Stranraer being the whipping
boys. When you consider the 8 other teams(Dundee,Raith,Killie,Hamilton,
Clydebank,St Mirren,Airdrie & either Falkirk or Dunfermline) it really
is going to be a tough league.
Is this league 1 up & 1 down ? If so we just might hang in there.
At least we'll have the prospect of 4 Ayrshire derbies to look forward
to. :-)
Del the Pessimist.
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49.926 | New star emerges. | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Sat Apr 23 1994 00:04 | 12 |
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Due to the current goalkeepers crisis at Somerset ie only Cammy Duncan
is fit, Simon Stainrod played in goal for the reserves last night
against Dumbarton. He kept a clean sheet until midway through the 2nd
half, Ayr eventually lost 3-2. It must have taken 3 good efforts to
beat him, I would have thought his size would have filled most of the
goal! After the game he commented, "I don't fault my keeper for the
goals".
Danny.
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49.927 | The Killie are going down !!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Sat Apr 23 1994 09:46 | 15 |
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Re Del,
As far as I know its two teams that will go down to the 2nd div
next year,and Stranraer is a cert for one of the slots as you have
said.At the other end of the table the league champs will go up with
the runner up playing off against the 2nd bottom Premier side in a two
leg fixture .
I think Airdrie might struggle next year as they are giving up
fulltime football and I believe 5 or 6 of their best players are off at
the end of the season.
Your right though we will need to get some quality players in to
give a real go,for once.
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49.928 | | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Tue Apr 26 1994 22:18 | 8 |
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Tonights result
Dunfermline 1 Ayr 0
French 89 minutes.
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49.929 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Apr 28 1994 10:30 | 21 |
| OK chaps it's rumour time.
If Ayr secure a place in next year's First Division, I expect some
ground improvements, mainly the reconstruction of the Railway End.
I also expect Simon Stainrod to invest some money of his own in the
club. Bill Barr, it is rumoured, will also put more money in and this
may be to fund the purchase of some players.
Players who may, or may not be arriving;
Alan Lawrence in a swap for Colin McGlashan.
Dougie Johnstone of Morton.
Gary Paterson of Dundee.
Alan Shearer,plus cash, in a swap for Gary Lennox
Oh allright, so I lied about one of them......can you guess which one ?
Kev...
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49.930 | | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Thu Apr 28 1994 21:10 | 13 |
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Kev,
are the players mentioned any better than what we've got just
now? Lawrence isn't getting a game at Airdire so why him? Paterson
seems to me to be a big lump of a lad, not much skill. Mind you,
Stainrod did sign him for Dundee so he must see something there.
The chap from Morton I don't know ocht about, as for Shearer, I
reckon he's just another over-hyped English type chappie. Probably
wouldn't adjust to Scottish first division football.
Danny.
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49.931 | | AYOV25::LGRACE | | Fri Apr 29 1994 13:33 | 2 |
| C'mon chaps let's be serious do you really think that Shearer could
provide enough service for Sammy?? I think not!!!
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49.932 | Gotham boys on their knees again. 8-))))) | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Sat Apr 30 1994 21:01 | 12 |
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Ayr United 1 Clyde 1
At last Ayshire's finest are safe ! Lets hope that the rebuilding will
begin in the close season and that for the first time in a few years we
can give a good account of ourselves in the 1st .
Also it looks very like we will be having the "pot lickers" round at
New Year as our first foots again.
SQFHM..
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49.933 | Going down. | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Sun May 01 1994 18:29 | 14 |
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Hey Sal, hope your not trying to wind up those Killie fans
again. Their team is in deep doo-doo now, 1 point behind with
only 2 games to go. Once Rangers stuff them next week, and Hearts
and St. Johnstone come to a gentlemans agreement and accept a
draw in their match, it could be all over!!
Danny.
ps Who was the Killie player who, a couple of months ago, said
that they were aiming to finish high enough in the league to
get a european place!!???!!
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49.934 | No dirty toe nails in the first ! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Tue May 17 1994 03:25 | 7 |
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If the Sun newspaper is to be believed Ayr today freed five players.The
players who's career's at the top are over are Gary Lennox,Steve Bryce,
Colin McGlashan,Nigal Howard and Gordon Mair.Their replacements will
need to be of a higher calibre if Utd are to regain their rightful
place as Ayrshire's Premier side !
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49.935 | '' | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue May 17 1994 10:16 | 78 |
| The story of the season......
July-Friendlies
24th COVENTRY 3-2 Annand,Scott,Burns
26th HIBERNIAN 0-2 -
28th BLACKBURN 0-1 - BK George
31st Stranraer 1-2 Carse
August
0 7th Clydebank 0-1 - BK McGivern
LC 10th MOTHERWELL 0-6 - SO Shotton BK Kennedy
2 14th STIRLING 2-1 OG, Scott BK Howard
4 21st Clyde 1-0 Bryce BK McQuilter,McGivern
McNab, Kennedy
4 28th DUMBARTON 0-1 - BK McGivern,Mair
September
6 4th St Mirren 1-0 McGivern SO McQuilter BK Mair
8 10th Brechin City 2-0 McGlashan,Howard BK Burns
8 14th FALKIRK 0-3 - -
8 18th Hamilton 1-2 McGivern -
9 25th DUNFERMLINE 1-1 Traynor -
10 28th MORTON 2-2 Moore,OG BK Shotton,McGivern
October
11 2nd Airdrie 1-1 McGlashan -
BQ 5th EAST FIFE 3-1 McGlashan,Burns,Bryce -
12 9th CLYDEBANK 1-1 Burns (pen) BK McGlashan,Burns,Mair
AC 12th Kilmarnock* 3-3 Burns (2) McGlashan -
12 16th Falkirk 0-2 -
BQ 19th BRECHIN CITY 2-1 McGivern (2) -
14 23rd BRECHIN CITY 1-0 McGivern -
BQ 26th CLYDEBANK 2-0 Murdoch (og) Burns(p)BK Kennedy,George
16 30th CLYDE 1-0 McGivern -
November
BQ 2nd ST MIRREN 1-2 McGivern SO Burns
17 6th Dumbarton 1-1 Bryce BK Robertson,McGivern
17 9th ST MIRREN 0-1 BK Kennedy
17 13th AIRDRIE 1-2 McGivern SO Traynor BK McGlashan
Burns Burley
19 20th Morton 1-0 Shotton BK Hood
27th Dunfermline POSTPONED
December
20 4th HAMILTON 1-1 McGivern -
21 11th Stirling* 0-0 -
21 14th Dunfermline* 1-6 McGivern
21 18th FALKIRK 0-3
27th Clydebank POSTPONED
January
1st Clyde POSTPONED
23 4th Clydebank 2-0 McGlashan,Hood BK Jack,Hood
24 8th DUMBARTON 1-1 Hood BK Jack
25 11th Clyde* 0-0 BK Jack,Shotton,George
15th St Mirren 1-1 McGivern **ABANDONED DUE TO FOG**
27 22nd STIRLING 3-1 Hood,Lennox,
McGivern
27 25th St Mirren 1-3 Moore BK McGivern,Burns
SC 29th Kilmarnock 1-2 Bryce BK George,Burns,Spence
February
29 5th Brechin City 4-1 Traynor 2 Biggart 2 BK Hood,Lennox,Mair
30 12th Airdrie 0-0 BK Spence,Biggart,Hood
Woods,McGlashan,Moore
26th MORTON POSTPONED
March
32 1st MORTON 2-1 Shotton,Bilsland BK Hood
32 5th Hamilton 1-2 McGivern -
32 12th DUNFERMLINE 0-4 - BK Donaldson
32 19th Falkirk 0-2 - BK Moore
33 26th CLYDEBANK 0-0 - BK McGivern
35 29th Stirling Alb 3-1 Burns,McGivern (2) BK Stainrod,Burns
April
36 2nd BRECHIN CITY 0-0 - -
36 9th AIRDRIE 2-3 Stainrod (2) BK Duncan,McGlashan,Hood
38 16th Morton 1-0 Bilsland -
40 23rd HAMILTON 1-0 McGivern -
40 26th Dunfermline 0-1 - BK McVicar,Burns
41 30th CLYDE 1-1 McKilligan -
May
42 7th Dumbarton 1-1 Woods -
42 14th ST MIRREN 0-1 - -
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49.936 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue May 17 1994 14:35 | 28 |
| Ayr United 0 - 1 St Mirren
The last game of the season with nothing at stake, but you wouldn't
have known that by the performances. Ayr showed a couple of changes
with Richie Williams on the bench with Bisy and Traynor at centre -half
in place of Hood, Simon did not play. Ayr took the game to Saints from
the kick off and should have had 2 or 3 goals by half-time but somehow
they squandered chance after chance with Woods the main offender. He
did very well to take the ball inside a static defence only to side
foot it past the post from 6 yards. In 14 minutes, the ref Andrew ' I
love Sean McSkimming' Waddell further endeared himself to the Somerset
faithful when he chose to book Combe, the Saints keeper, after he
punched Tom Woods. This surely deserved a sending-off and as The ref
supervisor Tom Wharton was in the stand and witnessed this appalling
mistake, I can only hope that Waddell is reprimanded for his
incompetence. Martin Baker was next into the book after he complained
physically to the linesman about a challenge. This cost him dearly as
he was ordered off for his second offence, a foul on Woods, who was
carried off as a result. Burns went off injured in 39 mins with
Williams going to rightback in his place.
The second half was not as good as the first with Ayr trying hard but
missing several easy chances and eventually being caught out when
McIntyre headed home a corner in 71 minutes. Mucho work to be done
before next season starts. Hope SS is up to the job.
Kev...
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49.937 | bye bye | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri May 20 1994 10:10 | 35 |
| End of Season rumours abound......
Gregg Hood has refused a new 1 year deal and looks set to leave
Somerset for either Sunderland or Notts County. Not a great loss in my
opinion as John Traynor is a better player all round. Hood is just too
slow and would have been caught for pace in next years first division.
Hopefully he'll have a good tournament with the U-21's in Toulon and
this may bump up his price at tribunal.
Cammy Duncan has walked out on the club after refusing his new contract
for 1 year. I don't think this is a big loss either as he was never a
really great keeper. Good for reflex stops but very poor at crosses
and his terrible kick-outs drove me mad. I think he has been nobbled by
another club. He made a comment to me on Saturday, before he even knew
what the club were offering, that suggested he was leaving anyway.
Watch the press, I imagine he will sign for someone soon. Could be
worth 40-50K at tribunal.
And the biggest rumour so far......
Ayr are set to re-sign Super Ally Graham from Raith Rovers for a fee of
about 100K. That should please Del-boy.......NOT.
The club will have 20 full-time players next season.
Traynor McVicar Shotton McKilligan McGivern
Woods Bilsland Connie Burns George
Williams Stainrod
who else ?
A few more signings must be made.
Kev...
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49.938 | ANOTHER YEAR IN AT THE TOP | KIRKTN::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Fri May 20 1994 20:55 | 14 |
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Hi Kev,
I think its a new team you need going by the names on the last
note,but it might just make it into the final of the Ayrshire cup.
Charlie (KFC,SQF)
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49.939 | Big Ally comes back to the "place" . | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Sun May 22 1994 11:59 | 18 |
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Re last, Another side spitter from Charlie !!!!
Re Kev, I can't agree with you about Traynor being a better player
than Hood.However if Notts County or Sunderland is offering decent
money then we will have to let him go.The same goes for Cammy although
I can't think who'd want to buy him.Perhaps it Morton as their keeper
is poor.
Add Scott,Moore,Biggart and Spence to your list .
One hundred thousand pounds for Ally Graham,no that can't be
true .Aggghhhhh.
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49.940 | Go on then..... | KIRKTN::APRYCE | | Sun May 22 1994 18:17 | 6 |
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Take him ,please take him.
we'll be back up next year
Al(RRFC)
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49.941 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Mon May 23 1994 17:25 | 10 |
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Kev,
it's a wind-up.....right ?
please tell me it's a wind-up !
Del.
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49.942 | Traynor is much better than Hood..... | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue May 24 1994 10:09 | 8 |
| All right Del,
It's a wind-up.
Maybe...
Kev.....
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49.943 | Ah'm no playin | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Fri May 27 1994 03:16 | 18 |
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Sam McGivern and Barry Scott have also refused new 1 year contracts
to stay with the super-U's.
McGivern would be a loss as he was top scorer last year with 15 goals.
Stainrod is quoted as saying that he doesn't want to break what is a
tight wage structure at Somerset. He seems to have a pretty laid-back
attitude to it all, quote "football is a game where people come and go
and it all depends how you react to losing any player. But no one
player makes all that much difference and I think at this level players
are generally replaceable".
There will be a lot of free's announced soon so expect several new
signings before the start of the season. The players who have refused
new contracts may find themselves struggling to find another club.
Danny.
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49.944 | thats nice and close !!!!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Wed Jun 01 1994 06:27 | 4 |
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Ayr United have been drawn away to East Stirlingshire in the first
round of this seasons B+Q cup.
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49.945 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Jun 01 1994 07:49 | 10 |
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Sal,
that's as good a reason not to go as any !
Not that I'd be there anyway.
Del.
ps. where's all these signings.
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49.946 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jun 02 1994 17:41 | 4 |
| Ex-Ayr manager George Burley has been appointed manager of Colchester
United.
Kev...
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49.947 | | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Thu Jun 02 1994 20:26 | 6 |
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A step up in the footballing world for George then.
Danny.
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49.948 | League Cup draw !!!!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Wed Jun 08 1994 14:46 | 3 |
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August 16th Ayr United v Glasgow Celtic
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49.949 | TIME FOR A SHARP EXIT | PAKORA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Sat Jun 11 1994 08:54 | 8 |
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I wonder who Celtic will get in the next round?????.
Charlie(SQF,KFC)
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49.950 | razor sharp wit at the ready.......NOT | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Sun Jun 12 1994 14:28 | 7 |
| or Forfar or East Fife for that matter.......
Kev....
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49.951 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Jun 21 1994 17:20 | 4 |
| First match of the season is a relegation battle at home versus the
Hamilton Accies on the 13th of August.
Kev...
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49.952 | IT'S A LONG WAY TO THE TOP TEN | MASALA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Wed Jun 22 1994 04:20 | 6 |
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3 points to Hamilton.
Charlie(SQF,KFC)
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49.953 | Totally Boring Charlie (as usual) | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jun 22 1994 10:00 | 1 |
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49.954 | )) | AYOV16::AARNOTT | | Wed Jun 22 1994 14:04 | 7 |
| KEV,
Would your 2nd 3rd 4th (and all the rest) not be relegation battles
too?
Sorry but i couldn't resist temptation - I'm sure you'll attempt to get
me back.
Andy.
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49.955 | ENA'S BOY | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | One Team In AYRSHIRE | Wed Jul 06 1994 23:36 | 10 |
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SS has made his first new signing of the new season according to the
Ayrshire Post.
It's John Sharples,he's a centre back and he signs from HEARTS he has
also played for Man utd.
Does anybody know anything more about this chap???
fin
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49.956 | ONE TEAM IN AYRSHIRE | PAKORA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Thu Jul 07 1994 00:13 | 6 |
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RE::LAST
Yes he must be stupid.
Charlie.(SQF,KFC)
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49.957 | | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Make it easy on yourself | Thu Jul 07 1994 09:17 | 8 |
| re-2
Ena Sharples is crap..............
nuf said I think................
SQF Jambo #1
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49.958 | I nearly bust a gut. | YELBUS::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Thu Jul 07 1994 16:16 | 9 |
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re last 2
Stick to football guys, your attempt at humour is very feeble. Then
again, supporting teams from Baghdad and the easty coast probably leads
you to attempting something new to get your kicks.
Danny.
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49.959 | P.S..... I'm not taking the bait !!!! | PAKORA::CPATRICK | Make it easy on yourself | Fri Jul 08 1994 08:52 | 12 |
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re-1
Danny.......
In my previous note I was just giving my honest opinion of
the player named Sharples.
he was a free Signing from Man Utd who was lucky if he managed 3-4
first team games....
SQF Jambo #1
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49.960 | THE NEW HUMOUR NOTE | MASALA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Sat Jul 09 1994 00:45 | 4 |
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Sorry Danny,I thought i was in the humour note.
Charlie(SQF,KFC)
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49.961 | 1 of many..... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jul 14 1994 12:31 | 5 |
| Frank Rollenge (ex-Strasbourg) arrived in Ayr on Tuesday and joins
the rest of the squad for training which starts today. First game is
only 9 days away.
Kev...
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49.962 | LET GO FISHING | KIRKTN::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Fri Jul 15 1994 12:36 | 5 |
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Frank who ?
Charlie(SQF,KFC)
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49.963 | God is gone... | YELBUS::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Sat Jul 16 1994 08:55 | 9 |
|
Malky Shotton leaves Somerset to return to his home town team,
Barnsley as first team coach. Stainrod has appointed Sam McGivern
as his assistant manager. McGivern had earlier refused re-signing
terms with Ayr.
Danny.
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49.964 | Who ? | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jul 20 1994 15:27 | 12 |
| Ayr have signed Ian Gilzean (ex-Dundee) for nowt I expect, from
Northampton Town, those giants of the English game and someone called
Justin Jackson who used to play for Bolton. Cammy Duncan has agreed
re-signing terms and Frank Rollenge has also signed. I expect all are
on 1 year contracts.
Kev...
PS. any english noter know anything about Jackson ??
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49.965 | GIANTS OF AYRshire | AYOV25::FHEWITSON | | Thu Jul 21 1994 08:42 | 21 |
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AYR have also signed Gary Paterson from Dundee(the utility man).
i have heard STAZ is ready to sign another player and that will be his
squad complete.
kev,is it right enough that the new shirt sponser is those GIANTS of
RETAIL
" WHAT EVERYONE WANTS"
There is definately going to be a new strip next season.
fin.....
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49.966 | But cheap to buy | KIRKTN::AMILLAR | And some late news just in.... | Thu Jul 21 1994 09:18 | 6 |
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Well, the strips should look great up until they are washed for the
first time 8-))
Archie
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49.967 | WEW arra peepul | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Jul 21 1994 10:10 | 18 |
| re .965
Fin
You could be right. I had heard similar stories, but I just don't want
to beleive that's who put up the most money. They better not try and
put some poofy purple and yellow logo on the sacred black and white
cloth.
At least we're spared the ordeal of seeing SS pose about the park in a
shirt emblazoned with "What Every Woman Wants". He would lap that up
allright.
I thought SS had got his last man in (paterson) to complete the squad ?
Who's the one he's after ??
Kev...
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49.968 | NOT long till we notch up 1000 | AYOV25::FHEWITSON | GIANTS of AYRshire | Thu Jul 21 1994 12:12 | 17 |
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kev
I heard from the source that told me about the new sponsor, that SS is
still looking to sign Derek Mcwilliams from the pars.
I also heard that we nearly had LINDSAY(BIG GIRLS BLOUSE) HAMILTON
ready to sign for UTD but he refused TERMS.... Thank God we never
signed him. Cammy's a better Keeper anyway.
I think HOODY is on the verge of signing on again.
fin....
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49.969 | TRIP to DUBLIN | AYOV25::FHEWITSON | GIANTS of AYRshire | Sat Jul 23 1994 11:21 | 14 |
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lads,
Is there any of you's making the trip to the EMERALD ISLE???
If so can we have match reports & how the new players performed
cheers
fin
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49.970 | Not looking too good. | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jul 25 1994 12:44 | 12 |
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Ayr's pre-season tour of Ireland has been a mixed bag so far. They beat
the amateurs of St James Gate 2-0 on Saturday with Gilzean scoring in
the 23rd and 31st minutes. The papers reported this as an easy victory.
They played UCD yesterday and were soundly gubbed 3-0 with Gary
Paterson responsible for 2 of the goals. SS is quoted as saying results
are not important at the moment but finding your best side is. It looks
like a side without Paterson may be the best.
Bray Wanderers tomorrow night and Drogheda on Thursday.
Kev...
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49.971 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jul 25 1994 15:23 | 5 |
| correction to last note;
Bray Wanderers match is off. Rearranged match with Galway tomorrow.
Kev...
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49.972 | Paterson - the new saviour | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Mon Jul 25 1994 15:26 | 6 |
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As informative as ever Kev. What's happened to the match reports
though?
Danny.
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49.973 | I'm just a part-time supporter | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jul 25 1994 17:30 | 6 |
| I'm doing my best Danny, it's difficult to clear view of some of the
games from my living-room window. ;-)
Kev
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49.974 | | GALVIA::SPAIN | signed long gary(); | Tue Jul 26 1994 22:19 | 19 |
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Galway 1 Ayr 3
I've just watched Ayr beat a disappointing Galway side. Ayr dominated
the early exchanges and scored through Sharples after 10 minutes. He
drove home after a scramble in the box. 10 minutes later Gilzean hit
the bar and McGivern drove home the rebound. Galway finally woke up
and Ronan Killeen scrambled an equaliser.
Galway had chances to equalise in the second half. Ricky O'Flaherty
hit a post and the keeper made a couple of good saves. An Ayr
substitute made the game safe with about 15 minutes left. I didn't
find out who he was but he was the only black on the team.
The Ayr fans were very quiet (both of them).
Galway produced a 4 page programme and I have a few of them so if
anyone wants some just send me your internal snail address.
Gary.
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49.975 | 2wins 1defeat | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jul 27 1994 09:36 | 4 |
| I think the scorer of the third goal was Justin Jackson, the recent
signing from Bolton Wanderers. Looking forward to a programme..
Kevin McClelland @AYO
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49.976 | | GALVIA::SPAIN | signed long gary(); | Wed Jul 27 1994 10:29 | 5 |
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BTW one of the officials was a woman - Maria. Is this the first time
Ayr have had a woman run the line?
Gary.
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49.977 | Waddell is a big girls blouse.... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Jul 27 1994 11:26 | 4 |
| Well most Scottish officials act like women, but I think it's the first
time we've actually had a female run the line.
Kev..
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49.978 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Aug 02 1994 22:45 | 6 |
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tonights friendly result :
Ayr Utd 1 Middlesboro 2
Del.
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49.979 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Thu Aug 04 1994 20:08 | 13 |
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Kev,
I'm disappointed to say the least..where's the match report from
tuesday night ?
You wanna be getting your act together.
Del.
ps. It's also about time you got the fixture list in here as well....
so I can pick which game I'm going to this season !
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49.980 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Aug 08 1994 14:59 | 6 |
| Sorry Del, I was on hols last week.
It's a bit late to give a report now. Would you prefer one from the
game on Saturday against Lancaster City, which Ayr won 1-0 ?
Kev...
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49.981 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Mon Aug 08 1994 16:36 | 9 |
|
re. last
figured you we're either on holiday or dead......!
How about a fixture list.
Del.
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49.982 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Aug 11 1994 09:25 | 7 |
| Ayr have signed another Frenchman, on trial this time. He is 22 year
old Regis Gouges and has been signed from Nantes. He was an U21
international for France. He will not be available for the big kick-off
on saturday as he has am ankle knock. His normal posistion is left
midfield.
Kev...
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49.983 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | June18-94, the Italian Job | Mon Aug 15 1994 11:11 | 7 |
| Can someone tell me if this weeks game against Celtic in the Coca-Cola
Cup is all-ticket? If so, where can I get one and if not, how much will
it cost to get into Somerset Park?...
all donations gratefully received....
Ray....
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49.984 | No Green and White in the Somerset End !!!! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Aug 15 1994 11:53 | 11 |
| Ray,
The game is all-ticket.
You can buy one from Celtic Park ( assuming you are not an Ayr
supporter or a neutral) or you can go down to Somerset and buy one
today between 11am and 1pm ( I think). They will be on sale up to
tomorrow at 3.30pm. They will cost you 8 quid. Phone the ground on
263435 for more info.
Kev....
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49.985 | 1 point | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Aug 15 1994 11:53 | 42 |
| Ayr United 1 - 1 Hamilton Accies
Ayr could and should have won this entertaining encounter instead of dropping
2 points in the opening match of the season. Hamilton barely attempted to
attack and seemed lightweight in most areas of the park. Ayr however, dominated
the proceedings from start to finish with Garry Paterson outstanding in defence
and latterly, in attack. All roads led to Allan Ferguson's goalmouth, and he
showed why he is regarded as the best keeper in the 1st Div with a string of
outstanding saves, most notably from Gilzean,Paterson and Woods. Ayr lined up
with a 5-2-3 formation with Rolling sweeping behind Paterson and Sharples
and Gilzean partnering Bilsland and McGivern up front. This was a good attacking
formation but the forwards were starved of good quality ball due to Ayr's
midfield having Vinnie Poore, sorry, Moore in it. Neil McKilligan was running
himself into the ground, as was Bilsland who was trying to link up with the
midfield and the forwards. The best chance of the first half fell to Paterson
but he skied his shot from 4 yards. Hamilton took the lead totally against the
run of play when Lorimer ran onto a through ball and calmly knocked it past
Cammy and into the far corner. This was their first real attack and it knocked
a bit of the stuffing out of Ayr who had ran the show up to this point.
McInulty was fortunate only to recieve a booking for handball only minutes after
he escaped punishment for kicking Bilsland in an off the ball incident.
Ayr attacked Accies from the whistle in the second half and were almost rewarded
when Gilzean struck a fierce shot just over the bar. Woods and Traynor replaced
McKilligan and Bilsland and Ayr continued to press for the equaliser. Woods
was denied by a fantastic fingertip save from Ferguson and Paterson was also
foiled by the young keeper. Ayr switched Paterson into attack and reverted to
a flat back four and were almost caught out when Burns lost possession in a
mix up with Moore and 4 Hamilton attackers bore down on Rolling and Duncan.
Frank did just enough to block the path to pass and forced Duffield to shoot
and Duncan saved magnificently. With 6 minutes left Ayr deservedly equalised
when Rolling won the ball in a tough challenge with the Accies #7. He played it
wide to Burns who crossed it to Gilzean beyond the back post, about 7 yards out,
he headed it back across the goal and Traynor was the first of 3 Ayr players
bearing down on it and he hammered it past the despairing Ferguson. Ayr had
chances to win it, but bad luck and good 'keeping meant a draw was the end
result. Rolling was Ayr's only booking for showing studs in a tackle.
MoM - Gary Paterson Burns and Moore were terrible.
Celtic tomorrow night. I can't wait.....
Kev....
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49.986 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Aug 16 1994 05:32 | 12 |
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A bit disappointed only in getting a point when we had most of the
game. We're definately more physical than last season although the
skill level's about the same (nil). Another signing, someone who
can actually play football in the middle of the park, would make all
the difference. On Saturday's showing we won't go down, a bit more class
in midfield and we could, without being overly optimistic, finish in the
top 5.
Del.
ps. sorry for shooting off so quick Kev...duty called.
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49.987 | CELTS TROPHY ROOM,BARE FOR ANOTHER SEASON | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | GIANTS of AYRshire | Wed Aug 17 1994 06:49 | 21 |
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AYR 0 CELTIC 1
I felt AYR were very unlucky in this match and showed that we have a
bit of dig in the team,we didnt disgrace ourselves like last year
against Motherwell.Celtic were very poor and for another season will
win sod all.
Question,
How did PANDY walker get the MOM award especially after being taking
off in the 2nd half.
I thought it should have went to Frank Rolling who strolled through the
match and never looked out of his depth,he looks to be a good bit of
business done by Stainrod.
Here's looking forward to the PAISLEY PIRATES on saturday with a
victory I hope.
cheers fin..........
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49.988 | Worst ever. | YELBUS::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Wed Aug 17 1994 12:29 | 29 |
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Got to disagree here Fin. How can Ayr have been unlucky when they only
had 1 decent effort at goal all game, ie Burns shot against the post.
Stainrod's tactics were shockingly bad to say the least. The big punt
up the park at every opportunity made McNally and Mowbray look like
decent defenders. The 2 Ayr forwards did nothing all game except jump
up and down like someone on an acid trip, they were possibly the 2
worst players on the park. Theres no point in playing 2 big strikers if
you don't play wide men who can take on defenders and get some decent
crosses in. Where's Henry Templeton when you need him? George Burley or
even the mad Ally would have played a team that would have given a very
poor Celtic side a lot of problems.
Agree with you about Celtic, they were quite dreadful as well. Apart
from Peter Grunts goal, following a defensive blunder, they could have
played until next Tuesday without scoring. Burns could hace a good team
if he signs Cantona, Shearer, Ince, Laudruap, Baggio and Maldini!!
Danny.
I learned a lesson or 2 last night. According to the hordes fae
Glesga, the correct spelling of their teams name is SELLIC.
ps. Wonder why the SELLIC fans got upset when they were called a
"bunch of homeless beggars" Seemed like a reasonable statement to
me.
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49.989 | Keep things in perspective....... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Wed Aug 17 1994 17:44 | 33 |
| My turn to disagree with you Danny. It is unreasonable to compare Ayr
and Celtic without noting that 2 of Scotland's midfield play for
Celtic. If you try and play football on the ground against that, with
players such as Traynor,Connie,McKilligan etc, you will get shafted.
Ayr took the direct route to goal and fair enough it did not pay off,
however for 90 minutes I watched an Ayr side give a supposed 'talented'
side a real run for their money. They caused all sorts of problems at
throw-ins,corners and set pieces and the reason Mowbray and McNally
'looked good' is because they had so many things to do.
I watched Ayr's last 2 encounters in the Skol Cup against Celtic and
your idea of pretty football with wingers etc, did not work. We went
to Parkhead with a team consisting of Purdie,Love,Ross,Brown,Gillespie
Weir and a host of other players bought and signed by Ally McLeod.
You may not remember the results so I'll refresh your memory. We got
stuffed 4-1 and 4-0. Not my idea of entertainment. Ayr played like that
last night because they HAD to, to have any chance at all. The only
player who did not contribute last night was Vinnie Poore (again) and
it's a while since I saw that amount of commitment from Ayr players.
Can you imagine a Burley side playing against Celtic - scary huh ?
One thing I will say, Celtic were no better than Ayr and are extremely
fortunate to have the luxury of a 3rd round draw.
When it all comes down to it, it's horses for courses. Paterson will
be back in defence on Saturday and the ball will be played through the
midfield more. When and if Ayr get a midfielder who can play a bit of
football , THEN the style will change. As it is, it's a cut-throat
league this year and survival is imperative, no matter how it's
achieved.
Kev....
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49.990 | | AYOV20::JHILL | | Wed Aug 17 1994 22:42 | 21 |
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Sorry Dan, but I've got to agree with Fin and Kevin. Ayr were unlucky
in my opinion. To be quite honest I think we lacked the terrier like qualities
of Bilsland, as the two big men found it difficult to strike up a partnership.
However, over the 90 minutes the team as whole came up with a
performance which easily matched Celtics but at the end of the day we lost
and that's football.
John.
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49.991 | Keep things in perspective..version 2 | YELBUS::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Thu Aug 18 1994 09:51 | 37 |
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Sorry guys, but I must of been at a different game from you lot.
To suggest that Ayr couldn't cope with "Scotlands midfield" is
wrong. If Ayr had tried to play the ball through the midfield and
were getting nowhere, then resort to the big punt. 2 seasons ago
against Rangers, who dominate Scottish football, Ayr created a lot
more chances and were unlucky not to take something from that game.
If I remember correctly, Ayr at least tried to play football in that
game and were fairly successfull.
Ayr did not, over the 90 minutes, try and
change their style of play. Every corner, free kick and throw in
was the same predictable punt into the Celtic penalty area. The
Ayr forwards hardly won any challenge in the air against the Celtic
defence, why then could Ayr/Stainrod not change their tactics and
try something different? How often did the Celtic full-backs have do
to any sort of defending, they were never tested in a defensive role
apart from jumping to head clear.
I could have put on a black and white jersey and run about for 90
minutes, belting the ball upfield. Thats commitment, doesn't mean I'm
playing football.
Celtic are a very poor side. A change in tactics, a little bit of
variation in Ayr's play and we might have seen a different result.
To say Celtic were lucky/Ayr unlucky is, in my opinion, rubbish.
Celtic only had a couple of shots on target, but they scored. Marshall
in the Celtic goal did not have a decent effort to save. Thats nothing
to do with luck, that's just poor football.
Take off those tinted-glasses and open your eyes!!!! Ayr were crap,
Stainrods tactics were crap!!!!
Danny.
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The *BIG* 1000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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49.1001 | Get a life 8*) | KIRKTN::JJACK | | Sat Aug 27 1994 08:17 | 4 |
| Mr.Mods
I think the last few notes should be deleted & YELBUS::DSMITH made to
drink in a pub in KIlmarnock for the rest of his life !
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49.1002 | Stick to yer ain note. :-) | YELBUS::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Mon Aug 29 1994 22:09 | 12 |
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Mr. Jack,
I wouldn't drink in a pub in Kilmarnock if my life depended on it.
In fact, I wouldn't be seen deid in a pub in Kilmarnock. :-) :-)
By the way, that's a sooper sexy new ground their flinging together
down Killie way, should look really out of place in the 1st division
next season.
Danny.
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49.1003 | Stranraer 10 Ayr 8 (players that is!!!) | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Wed Aug 31 1994 16:10 | 5 |
| I'm interested to hear an Ayr fan's view on the goings on at Stranraer
at the weekend. Is it true the foul was yards outside the box and the
ref gave a penalty?
Gavin
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49.1004 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Thu Sep 01 1994 07:34 | 18 |
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3 league games into the new season and we're sitting with 2 pts.
Without doubt relegation form when you consider the 3 teams we've
played will be at the bottom end of the league come the end of the
season. If we have trouble in beating Hamilton,St Mirren and Stranraer
what chance in the next 4 games against St Johnstone,Airdrie,Dundee &
Raith ? For all Stainrod's talk of being hard to beat and carrying a
greater goal threat, one goal a game is not going to be good enough.
St Johnstone had a great result last night at Tynecastle so saturday
is going to be tough especially considering we'll be missing 3 players
after last saturday. The seasons just started and things are already
looking bleak.
Del Doom.
ps. On a happier note I see Dads Army lost again last night.....shame
:-)
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49.1005 | Red Card United Ready To Rock !!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Thu Sep 01 1994 23:08 | 18 |
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Del,
The three players that are out for Saturday are not such a great
loss as you would think.The pluses will out number the minuses.Sharples
will bw available again,so we will be able to field our first choice
defence .I'm told that McIntosh is a good keeper and Cammy will have
trouble getting his place back when he is available again.
You are correct about our scoring record,it is poor.Maybe the
arrival of Gailerenzo will ease the problem.
There is still a very long way to go.One thing that has improved is
our defence .It doesn't seem to be leaking goals the way it used
to.Famous last words.
SQFHM..
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49.1006 | Whit defence !!!!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Sat Sep 03 1994 21:26 | 12 |
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Ayr United 3 St Johnstone 4 Att 2,400
Stainrod O'Boyle (3)
Traynor Irons
Gilzean
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49.1007 | Solid as a rock | YELBUS::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Sun Sep 04 1994 21:23 | 7 |
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re .1005
You said it Sal, famous last words!!!!
Danny.
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49.1008 | Hello world | YELBUS::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Thu Sep 15 1994 20:28 | 11 |
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11 days without a note here, something to do with the team's lacklustre
start to the season perhaps?
Away to East Stirling in the B@Q on Sunday, is it live on STV :-).
Will Jim Farry attempt to block CH4 coverage of the Italian game on
Sunday as that may detract from the Ayr game? Will Ayr win their
first game of the season? Does anyone care? Is anyone there?
Danny.
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49.1009 | | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Sep 16 1994 11:40 | 25 |
| Ok Danny I'll bite,
Yes we are still here , but as Sal and I are the only ones who appear to
go to the games anymore AND write in notes, we have taken to talking
through mail if we have gossip/info/reports. It saves me getting into
trouble with "the Thought Police' in here for spending 'too much time
in notes'
I'll be at Firs Park on Sunday for my first visit since 1988 and I
expect Ayr to triumph 2-0. The team will be
Duncan
Burns Paterson Rolling McVicar
Traynor George Gorgues
Stainrod
Gilzean McGivern
Now , has any other Ayr fan got something to write........?
Kev.
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49.1010 | Big Bruvver is watching you! | AYOV16::GBORLAND | | Fri Sep 16 1994 12:01 | 5 |
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OI! Kevin! Get back to work you lazy sod!
The Thought Police :-)
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49.1011 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Sep 16 1994 13:55 | 8 |
| re last
See what I mean Danny ?
GB, you're getting slow off the mark . That took 21 minutes for you to
reply. 8-)
Kev..
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49.1012 | Look out! Look Out! The Thought police are about! | AYOV16::GBORLAND | | Fri Sep 16 1994 15:32 | 11 |
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Kev,
21 minutes is not bad considering all the other reprobates I have to keep an eye
on.
Besides as .1010 is your second offence, I can no longer overlook these
misdemeanours and must report you to the grey man. Thats if I remember!
Sgt Marvo of the Thought Police :-)
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49.1013 | Slippier than a velvet eel | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Sep 16 1994 16:59 | 6 |
| Marvo the Memory Man strikes again.
.1010 is in fact YOUR first offence and as tackling from behind
(oo-err) is a nasty offence, off you go.
Kev....
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49.1014 | Oi Ref! you need glasses Mate! | AYOV16::GBORLAND | | Fri Sep 16 1994 17:12 | 8 |
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Kev, you force me to play the SFA inconsistent referee gambit. Thus I was
unsighted when I wrote my last note and therefore I escape punishment.
You however have completed your hatrick of bookable offences, so the SOTD award
is yours (Skivver of the Day).
Nodrog.
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49.1015 | It gets worse................. | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Sep 19 1994 11:46 | 79 |
| East Stirlingshire 1-1 Ayr United (Ayr win 4-2 on penalties)
This has to rank as one of the worst Ayr performances I have ever had the
misfortune to witness. Against a team from Division 3, Ayr struggled to find
any sort of pattern or form and instead of playing neat attractive football
on the ground, they elected to hump the ball from end to end with a predictable
outcome. As early as the 5th minute Ayr looked out of sorts and Geraghty almost
cashed in on a slack Moore pass-back which Duncan had to clear under pressure.
It came as no surprise to me when Shire took the lead. A mazy run by Geraghty
along the edge of the 18 yard box ended when he slipped a pass in front of
Watt and he hammered the ball into the roof of the net from 16 yards. Ayr
stepped up a gear and attempted to get back into the game but a combination of
poor finishing and good goalkeeping kept them out. A Moore headflick was touched
over the bar, a Gorgues shot hit the bar, Stainrod had a goal chalked off for
handball and the ref turned down appeals for a penalty when a hand was clearly
used. The first half ended with Ayr camped in Shire's 18 yard box, forcing
six corners in a 2 minute spell, all of which proved fruitless. The whistle
brought jeers from the visiting fans in the crowd(?) of 768.
I would have thought it was impossible to be worse than the first half, but
Ayr again contrived to astound me with a display of unparalleled ineptitude
in the second half. They got back into the game by the only possible means,
a penalty. Sneddon needlessly handled with the ball running out and Burns
duly stuck away the kick to level things. Shire buckled and Ayr had a 10 minute
spell of pressure which should have ended in a goal when Burns ran through
and, instead of squaring to the unmarked duo of Bilsland and McGivern, he shot
at goal from an impossible angle with obvious results. Shire were not posing
any threat up front and Cammy Duncan had one of his easiest days but in the
midfield and defence, Shire were a match for their supposedly more experienced
counterparts. Gordon Wylde (ex Killie) and Duncan George had a running battle
most of the match which should have brought more than a warning from the ref.
Wylde was in the thick of things again with McGivern and was booked along
with Sammy for his troubles. He then had to leave the park for treatment after
a strong challenge from Moore. He reappeared with blood soaking through the
bandage on a leg wound. The match petered out and into extra-time, which a
discreet veil will be drawn over. It was quite simply dreadful to watch.
On to penalties and it went like so;
Lee scored for Shire 1-0
Burns scored for Ayr 1-1
?? saved by Duncan 1-1
Moore scored for Ayr 1-2
?? scored for Shire 2-2
McGivern scored for Ayr 2-3
Cuthbert saved by Duncan 2-3
Gilzean scored for Ayr 2-4 and Ayr had scraped through by the skin of
their teeth.
Duncan **** saved the game, no chance with the goal
Burns ** flattered to deceive
Connie *** reasonable match
Paterson * one end of a pantomime horse ( possibly both ends )
Rolling **** different ecole, must wonder what he's doing here
George *** solid, saving tackles were excellent
Gorgues ** hit bar and post,did nothing else
Moore * was he playing ?
McGivern * done , finished , knackered
Stainrod * a sad end to a wonderful playing career, woefully unfit
Bilsland * couldn't stay upright most of the time, a blatant cheat
Gilzean * sub for Bilsland. the other end of the pantomime horse
Stainrod will have to realise that this 'hump it up the park and chase it'
stuff doesn't suit the players or the fans. The fans voiced there displeasure
and there is more to come if he doesn't sort it out now. Dump Paterson and
Burns and Moore and Himself and play some footballers who have fitness and
a wee bit of ability. A better team would have been
Duncan
Biggart Sharples Rolling McVicar
McKilligan Traynor George Connie
McGivern Gorgues
but what do I know ?
A sickened Kev....
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49.1016 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Sep 19 1994 14:23 | 6 |
| Ayr have been drawn against Stranraer at home in the next round of the
B&Q Cup. It will be played next Tuesday or Wednesday. Revenge for that
defeat at Stair Park 3 weeks ago could be on the cards. But don't bet
on it !
Kev...
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49.1017 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Mon Sep 19 1994 17:01 | 11 |
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Kev,
It's good to see the black and white tinted specs have finally came
off. Dan tried to tell you and the rest of the diehards how bad we
we're back in note 988. The long ball will not do even in the
Scottish 1st Div. It's going to be a lonnnng season and one which
will end in relegation.
Del.
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49.1018 | Aaaaaaagghhhhhhhhh! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Sep 19 1994 17:47 | 13 |
| Fair comment Del, but my criticism of .988 was justified at the time
due IMHO to the opposition that night. Celtic are a long way from East
Stirling in terms of footballing ability (or are they?) and I would
have thought that Ayr would be able to play the type of football
required against certain teams. Against Celtic, humping it up the park
and chasing it was not a bad idea, against ES it was laughable. A
versatile team can alter the type they play to suit the game. SS
himself was unhappy with yesterday's performance and I hope he learns
from it. Long Ball is OK SOMETIMES, not EVERYTIME. Billy Little , the
Shire manager even criticised Ayr. I've never heard of that before.
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49.1019 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Mon Sep 19 1994 17:56 | 12 |
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The big problem is that we don't have the players to change the style
even against lesser opposition. I'm very disappointed in Stainrod. In
his day he was as good a ball player as you'd find, yet the side he's
put together at Somerset has no skill and are at a loss when the ball
is on the deck. I must admit that I expected us to overpower some of
the oppostion with the way we played but even that is not happening.
We haven't won this season and I'd be surprised if that changes against
Dundee on Saturday.
Del.
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49.1020 | BACK FROM ONE MICKEY MOUSE TO ANOTHER | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | GIANTS of AYRshire | Tue Sep 20 1994 03:05 | 38 |
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RE::1009
kev,
whits happening here, are you saying i have gave up going to the
UTD games to see AYR EXCITED playing crap a saturday wouldnt be the
same without it.I'll let you off this time but remember People go on
holiday at the start of the season.It was a good 3 weeks to pick me
thinks.
ps I'll see you at the HALLOWED on saturday when seeing I'M back AYR
will turn the corner & beat Dundee...................................
NOT.
CHEERS
FIN
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49.1021 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Sep 20 1994 09:42 | 11 |
| OK Fin, I apologise. You do go to the games, but I was right when I
said that it's only really me and Sal who tend to write anything in
here.
Del,
That's more like it. I expected Ayr's players to be able to change the
style they play to suit the opposition, not have to change the players
completely !
Kev.....
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49.1022 | You rake in the bucket for something to eat ! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | per mare per terras | Tue Sep 27 1994 16:38 | 25 |
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A bit late but what the hek !
Ayr United 3 Dundee 2
Jackson (2)
George
A poor crowd of only 2,000 saw Utd take their first scalp of the
season.It may please oor Dan and Del that this was done with a bit of
style and not by route one .Things are begining to click in the land of
Kyle and I'm sure it won't be long before Simon's crew start to climb
the league .
The wee Killie tonight at Somerset shouldn't prove too much of a test
for the mighty whites .So I will fully expect us to be in the draw for
the last eight on Thursday .
Scotsport was a joy to watch on Sunday but who where all the glum faces
in the uncovered area behind the goal at Tynecastle ?
SQFHM......................................................................
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49.1023 | KFC:- DOWN & OUT BY XMAS | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | | Tue Sep 27 1994 17:46 | 12 |
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LADS,
I'll go for the Giants of Ayrshire to win 2-0 tonight & Stainrod to
take the Mickey out of Kenny (ex Killie THUG)Brannigan.
Hopefully we will have a better crowd than saturdays game.
cheers
fin................
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49.1024 | WE come from the coast,we're better than most. | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | per mare per terras | Tue Sep 27 1994 18:46 | 17 |
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Fin,
I think Brannigan is out the picture at Stranraer after a halftime
bust up with the whiskey thief at the game in Dundee .
I am more worried about our trip to Fife on Saturday than playing the
part timers from the Solway .It should be a good game and it will be nice
to see Ally Graham getting the message from big Frankie,oo la la .
Lets hope Killie's form improves so we can take them out in the play
offs.Oh I wish !!!!
SQFHM.....................................................................
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49.1025 | Cmon Killie | MOEUR8::BOYD | Whatever happened to vanishing cream? | Tue Sep 27 1994 18:59 | 4 |
| >> -< WE come from the coast,we're better than most. >-
Thats near the shore, an' yer team is a bore!
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49.1026 | Killie? Down by Xmas | YELBUS::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Tue Sep 27 1994 19:16 | 2 |
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49.1027 | The Ayshire boys are in town !!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | per mare per terras | Wed Sep 28 1994 09:00 | 10 |
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Ayr United 4 Stranraer 2
Burns
Jackson
Paterson
George
Re -2 Seven goals in two games can't be that boring !
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49.1028 | Dancing in the Streets of Raith on Sat !!!! | KURMA::DMCCALL | Sometimes a great Notion | Wed Sep 28 1994 12:49 | 10 |
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re : last couple of taunts
What you'd give to have our problems boys... 8*)))))))))
SQFKillie...
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49.1029 | Och the squirrels are sucking their thumbs again. | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | per mare per terras | Wed Sep 28 1994 14:17 | 12 |
| -< Dancing in the streets of Raith on Sat ! >-
I most certainly will be,yourself David ?
SQFHM......................................................................
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49.1030 | maybe..bonnie lawdie maybe !!! | KIRKTN::DMCCALL | Sometimes a great Notion | Wed Sep 28 1994 15:54 | 1 |
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49.1031 | A good day oot!!!! | KIRKTN::APRYCE | | Wed Sep 28 1994 15:59 | 7 |
|
OK I'll kick of the predictions for Sat.
Raith 2 Ayr 0
Graham
Cameron
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49.1032 | Simon Stainrod's black and white army !!! | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | per mare per terras | Wed Sep 28 1994 16:10 | 12 |
|
Well Al nobody has beaten us by two goals for a wee while now .I think
the game will be a tight one,as they always are in Fife.So I'll go for:
Raith Rovs 2 Ayr United 2
Not Ally Jackson
Not Ally Burns
But what ever happens on the park there will be plenty booze n' banter
of it !~!
it.
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49.1033 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Sep 29 1994 15:13 | 54 |
| Ayr United 4 - 2 Stranraer
Ayr continued their tradition of B&Q Cup runs with a convincing victory
over Stranraer. This earned revenge for the league debacle at Stair park
and also carried on from the fine victory over Dundee in the league on
Saturday.
Stranraer took the lead with their first attack. Henderson's near post
corner was flicked on by Sloan and Walker was all alone in the 6 yard
box and he chested it into the net. Ayr were stunned, but as we had now given
away our customary early goal, I felt sure we would come back. Ayr pressed
forward, with the same team as Saturday, and carved open the visitors several
times before a master substitution changed the game. Stainrod had been hanging
wide left and took a knock, this meant he was replaced by Gilzean who played
more through the middle with Jackson. Ayr won a free-kick after a corner when
Burns was fouled 30 yards out. He stepped up and hammered the ball past the
wall and into the keeper's right hand corner. This is probably the best goal
he has scored for Ayr. A very clean strike, which is unusual for him. 2 mins
later and Ayr were ahead when Paterson nodded a Burns corner down and Justin
Jackson hooked the ball into the roof of the net from a couple of yards.
The bad feeling was simmering just below the surface of the game and threatened
to ignite throughout the first half. Paterson was booked for an assault on
Walker's left leg which ultimately ended his interest in the match. He was
joined in the book by Millar and McCaffery of Stranny. Darren Henderson was
as usual, endearing himself to the home fans and further strengthened the
bond of hate when he equalised for Stranraer against the run of play in the
41st minute. Ref Willie Young ignored the fact that Walker was yards offside
and allowed Henderson to run onto a through ball and chip the retreating
Duncan from 25 yards. Henderson was promptly booked for gesturing in front
of the Somerset road fans.
The second half started as the first ended with Ayr attacking. They began
to play some good football in this early period and were rewarded when
Paterson forced the ball home from a Jackson knockdown in the 61st minute.
It was announced as Gilzean but later changed. From the restart, Gilzean
clashed in the centre-circle with Duncan and was stretchered off and taken
to hospital for X-rays on an ankle injury. It appears to be ligament damage
and could keep him off the subs bench for up to 6 weeks. Ayr brought on
McKilligan and moved Vinnie Moore up front with Jackson. These 2 caused all
sorts of problems for the ragged defence and McLean was booked for a rough
challenge on the touchline. With 5 minutes left, McKilligan, Moore and Burns
combined to set up Duncan George. The midfielder chested the ball down and
beat 2 challenges before hammering the ball past Ross from 18 yards. The best
goal of the night for my money. We were treated to the sight of Frank Rolling
leading a couple of attacks after that as he sought his first goal for the
club, but the ref ended the proceedings at 4-2 for Ayr
Best for Ayr were Jackson,George and Rolling, although no-one had a bad game.
Very encouraging performance which will set Ayr up well for the trip to that
lovely, quaint little seaside town of Kirkcaldy. We are always assured of a
warm welcome there.
Kev...
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49.1034 | or maybe not | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Sep 29 1994 17:45 | 5 |
| B&Q Cup 3rd Round
Airdrie v Ayr United
Diamonds crushed !
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49.1035 | Easy..... | MASALA::AMILLAR | Exactement ce qu'il faut, Brian! | Sat Oct 01 1994 21:15 | 7 |
|
For information only....
RAITH ROVERS 3 Ayr United 0
Archie
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49.1036 | ONLY ONE TEAM IN AYRSHIRE | KIRKTN::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Sun Oct 02 1994 09:57 | 5 |
|
I see ayr are back on form.
Charlie (SQF,KFC)
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49.1037 | Only one team in "AYR"shire | BUSSTP::DREES | | Sun Oct 02 1994 13:16 | 7 |
|
Charlie....did Killie win yesterday by any chance? Nice to see you've
came out of hibernation. One result won't make any difference, you'll
still be down by xmas.....and you can go back to sleep.
Del.
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49.1038 | ONE RESULT COULD MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE | KIRKTN::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Sun Oct 02 1994 17:26 | 4 |
|
Hi Del hows it going..? hook line sinker.
Charlie(SQF,KFC)
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49.1039 | And it was pouring as well........ | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Oct 03 1994 14:40 | 59 |
| Raith Rovers 3 - 0 Ayr United Att. 2940
Ayr's first defeat at Kirkcaldy for a few years. This match saw Ayr try out
a new format with 5 in midfield and 1 up front. This was brought about by
Stainrod and McGivern still carrying injuries and meant that Justin Jackson
had the lone striker's role. After arriving 3 minutes late, thanks to the
friendly and helpful Kirkcaldy Police and Traffic Wardens (inconsiderate
people) we took our places about 300 yards from the action in possibly the
worst covered away section in the first division. Ayr however, had as much
of the ball in the first half as Raith did, only they did not create one
single scoring chance. They played neat football, mainly on the ground, but
seem to have returned to the 'let's walk the ball into the net' routine.
Gourges had possibly the best 45 minutes I've seen from him yet and gave
McAnespie a tough time on the left. All the chances Ayr had were squandered
long before they even reached the goalmouth and the few corners and throw-ins
they had were mopped up easily. Ayr could have exploited the Raith goalie,
who dropped the ball 4 out of the first 5 times he went for it, but as usual
the ref protects the keeper far too much. Mr Orr from Kirkcaldy, sorry,
Kilbarchan was obviously enjoying himself as he scowled about the park,
being an over-officious little twit for most of the 90 minutes.
Raith took the lead when a throw-in to Nicholl was knocked through the
Ayr defence to Crawford who shot low past Duncan. Shortly after this the
ref interpreted a headed pass-back as a different sort of pass-back and
penalised Duncan for picking it up. The ensuing melee saw the ball hoofed
clear and the chance was lost. Crawford went down injured in the centre
circle soon after this and play raged on for a minute or two. Jimmy Nicholl
got the ball and instead of booting it out the park so Crawford could get
treatment, he tried to start a Raith attack. The ball fell to Connie and the
ref decides it's time to blow the whistle. Yeh, great, don't blow it while
Nicholl has it, wait till Ayr have it. Why didn't Nicholl put it out ?
More excellent refereeing from the man in red.
Second half saw Ayr abandon the 5 man midfield and removed McKilligan for
Woods. This made no visible difference to the team, no,that's a lie, it looked
like we were playing with 10 men. The front 2 rarely saw the ball after this
and when they did, were easily brushed/pushed/kicked/shoved off it. The ref
finally giving a foul against Sinclair for his 8th foul was greeted with
sarcastic cheers from the Ayr support. Paterson and Dennis were booked in a
'handbags at dawn' confrontation in the Raith box, when Gary attempted to
improve Dennis's IQ and looks with an overhead kick in the face. Dalziel
appeared for Raith with 15 minutes left and scored with his first touch.
Crawford got in behind Connie, beat Rolling and crossed for Dalziel to head
home from 5 yards. Traynor and Duncan were left looking at each other as
Dalziel ambled back to the centre-circle. I blame Traynor for not matching
Dalziel's run but Cammy could also have come out for it. Worse was to follow
when Connie was judged to have brought down the vertically-challenged Dalziel
in the area. Connie was booked and Dalziel netted with ease. The rest of the
match was played out in the middle of the park. Ayr brought on Biggart for the
limping Moore and moved Paterson upfield but it was a waste of time. The final
insult followed. The sponsors had a 'man-of-the-match' for both teams and to
cap a really crappy afternoon, Vinnie Moore got the award. Uncontrollable
laughter was heard from the Ayr support for the first time.....
Final thought for the day.
Isn't David Sinclair a wonderfully untalented player ?
Kev.
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49.1040 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Oct 04 1994 08:14 | 8 |
|
re -1
Kev,
do you reckon we'll just miss out on promotion then ? :-)
Del.
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49.1041 | Will we have 10 points by then ? | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Oct 04 1994 08:40 | 4 |
| It's a bit hard to predict this early in the season Del. Ask me next
month.
Kev...
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49.1042 | Killie & Ayr down & out by XMAS | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | CHECK YOUR HEAD | Tue Oct 11 1994 06:12 | 59 |
|
KEV,
I know why you haven't put in a match report for the game on
saturday because there is only one word that sums it up ............
CRAP............................
What did you think of Gary Paterson's antics towards the Utd
support????
Are we doomed for the 2nd division ????????????
or will stainrod sort it out????
tune in next week for the next enthralling episode of
IT'S ALL TURNED SOUR FOR UTD
Fin.......
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49.1043 | | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Whistle while you work !!! NOT | Tue Oct 11 1994 06:18 | 7 |
| re-1
I heard the exact same doom and gloom from Sal yesterday
so it must be true...
SQF Jambo #1
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49.1044 | BIG game at Somerset to-night | MASALA::JROWAN | Auchinleck Talbot WILL be back! | Tue Oct 11 1994 10:13 | 10 |
| Somerset park should see its biggest crowd of the season so far
to-night when Kilbirnie take on Auchinleck Talbot in the Ayrshire
league cup final.
Cup games are always special between these two great rivals and there
should be a good atmosphere at the ground.
I take Auchinleck to win 3-0 and regain the league cup after losing out
to Beith on penalty's last year.
SQFs Talbot supporters club
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49.1045 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Oct 13 1994 12:33 | 9 |
| I detect an intrusion into our hallowed note by a squirrel sympathiser
maquerading as a Talbot supporter. Quite what all that has to do with
Ayr, I don't know, apart from the match being at Somerset. However I
will put the record straight. 2167 people ( about 6500 less than the
biggest crowd this season) saw KILBIRNIE beat talbot on penalties.
Good job you're not a betting man Mr Rowan.
Kev...
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49.1046 | 4,500 and counting | KIRKTN::JROWAN | Auchinleck Talbot WILL be back! | Fri Oct 14 1994 16:04 | 9 |
| The crowd of 2167 given by Ayr Utd is an absolute disgrace. The real
attendance was 4,500 and the two junior clubs concerned were furious at
the figure given out by Ayr. There were at least 3,000 from Auchinleck
itself. The juniors stopped using Somerset for major games because of
the same problem years ago. Since we can't go to Killie (who took
nothing from the juniors) there was no option but to go back to Ayr.
ps Hope you stay up.
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49.1047 | Genuine questions.... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Oct 14 1994 17:02 | 12 |
| Why can't you play at Rugby Park anymore ?
What difference does it make if the actual crowd is greater than that
disclosed by the host club ? If it means that the host club keeps the
extra gate money, then I'm shocked that the AJFA don't appoint their
own turnstile operators. I'm also shocked that Ayr would stoop so low.
>>ps hope you stay up
I doubt it ...........
Kev...
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49.1048 | hows Kevin doing??? | KIRKTN::JROWAN | Auchinleck Talbot WILL be back! | Tue Oct 18 1994 02:42 | 5 |
| I noticed Kevin Biggart was playing on Saturday. How is he doing?.
He was out injured for a while I believe.
Tell him his Falkirk pals and Big Steven are asking for him, he will
know who you mean. Hope the boy makes it with United.
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49.1049 | Talbot fans... fousands of 'em!!! | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Tue Oct 18 1994 14:00 | 8 |
| Re: .1046, I dropped the wife off at the Talbot/Ladeside game (St
Andrews Red Cross, not to watch the fitba) and I was surprised at the
official attendance given too. Perhaps the Somerset turnstiles aren't
designed to deal with crowds!
By the way, why can't you use Rugby Park?
Gavin
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49.1050 | He's doing fine now | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Oct 18 1994 14:39 | 16 |
| re 1048
Kevin Biggart has played in the last 4 or 5 games at either left or
right back. Had his best game of the season on Saturday against the
Pars when he was up against Kenny Ward and Jackie McNamara. I'm not
sure about injuries. He was playing for the reserves at every game I've
been at so far. I reckon SS should use him in midfield as Vinnie Moore
is fast approaching the worst footballer I have ever seen with Ayr.
Kev.
ps SOme of my mates were at the game between Talbot and Ladeside and I
asked them what they thought the attendance was. They said 'over 2000'
They also said it was a cracking game.
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49.1051 | GOING DOWN | MASALA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Tue Oct 25 1994 20:44 | 4 |
|
HELLO IS THERE ANYBODY THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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49.1052 | Killie going down too ? | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Oct 27 1994 08:53 | 7 |
| Still here Charlie, still licking wounds.
You're probably correct based on the last half dozen games or so.
That's a real pity as I'd love to see Ayr and Killie in the same league
again next season.
Kev...
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49.1053 | Honest your going DOWN | PAKORA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Fri Oct 28 1994 03:41 | 5 |
| Hi Kev,
do you think you could handle sitting in comfort for 90 mins at
RUGBY PARK ?
Charlie.
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49.1054 | Rugby Park, most expensive ground in Div 1 | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Oct 28 1994 08:34 | 12 |
| Charlie,
I've been to most , if not all, of the "new" grounds in Scotland.
Forthbank, McDiarmid and Broadwood. I don't like sitting in comfort
anywhere, I'd much rather stand. It makes it easier to get to the
segregation fence and geticulate wildly, whilst foaming at the mouth
and uttering oaths at opposing fans. And it's usually a wee bit warmer
than sitting in a plastic seat, halfway up a windswept,rainsoaked
stand.
Kev...
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49.1055 | From the boys in maroon to the top of the toon!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | per mare per terras | Sat Oct 29 1994 08:09 | 16 |
|
The Sun states today that Ayr are ready to sign Mo Johnston from
Hearts in a deal which see's Ayr get a cool 100K from the Jambo's for
taking the player.The only snag however is that with Mo comes his huge
wages and a two year deal,he is believed to be on 3 grand a week.Over
the two year period that his contract still has to run it would cost
Ayr 200K .Quite a lot of money for a first division club.
After playing with a succession of smaller club it seems like this
will be Mo's last chance to join one of the country's giants 8*)).
SQFHM..
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49.1056 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Nov 01 1994 16:20 | 9 |
| It seems there is a god after all as SS has abandoned any lunatic
chatter about signing mercenary Mo from the Gorgie Boys.
I don't reckon having Barr as chairman will make one ounce of
difference to the amount of cash Ayr have to spend. He was a director
before and didn't invest much. And he's to busy building stands for
the Squirrels and ST Midden to doa ny improvements at Somerset.
|
49.1057 | Barr has a good track record of investing ...NOT | AYOV25::FSPAIN | I'm the King of Wishful Thinking | Wed Nov 02 1994 14:54 | 2 |
| remember he bought control of both the Centrum Ice Rink and the Ayr
Raiders Ice Hockey team and where are they now ?????????????????
|
49.1058 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Nov 08 1994 01:34 | 10 |
|
well.....we've just played Hamilton, Stranraer & St Mirren taking 3
points from a possible 9. Our next 5 games are Airdrie, St Johnstone,
Dundee, Raith & Dunfermline. I hate to be pesimistic but if we take 3
points from the 15 available I reckon we'll be lucky.
It's time SS was packing his bags and taking the board with him.
Del.
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49.1059 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | We live in CELL block,T | Tue Nov 08 1994 03:15 | 7 |
|
Del,
Oh ye of little faith !!!
SQf HM.......
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49.1060 | doomed by december | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Nov 08 1994 05:37 | 9 |
|
Sal,
going by the performance at Firhill, super simon's soccer sensations will
will be doomed by december.....
Del
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49.1061 | Bring on the Diamonds !!!!!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | We live in CELL block,T | Tue Nov 08 1994 05:56 | 21 |
|
Del,
There has been some new blood signed since them and once they
settle in we may just turn that corner .The Swedish international,Nylan
I think his name was,stuck out a mile on Saturday at right back and
then at centre half when Valletta was taken off.He will help plug some
of the holes in our defence .While the addition of Bruce Murray up
front should give us some more power in that department .The major
problem we have at the moment is that Vinnie Moore is still getting a
game,I would move Frank Rolling up into the midfield and pull Hood back
in at centre half.
Got a feeling we'll beat Airdrie on Saturaday,but our tactics away
from home are terrible.So God knows what will happen at Perth and
Dundee in the weeks to come .
My team for Saturday : Duncan
Nylan Hood Valletta Biggart
Burns Rolling George Gourges
McGivern Murray
Subs: McKilligan,Dow.......................................
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49.1062 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Tue Nov 08 1994 06:43 | 11 |
|
Sal,
your the eternal optimist! I've gave up on Stainrod, regardless of what
he might or might not achieve at Somerset. I will always remember him as
the man who signed Gary Paterson! Never thought I'd witness a utd player
with less skill on the deck than big Ally Graham but Paterson is that man.
definately doomed by december.....
Del
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49.1063 | TOERAG DOES IT AGAIN--TOE-RAG DOES IT AGAIN...... | AYOV25::JRUSSELL | | Tue Nov 08 1994 17:48 | 5 |
| STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH, MOJO SAT DOWN WITH STAINROD, READY TO
SIGN CONTRACT,BUT AT THE LAST MINUTE GOT UP AND WALKED OUT LEAVING
FATBOY TOTALLY EMBARRSED.
BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES OF THE WEE TRACK-SUIT MERCANARY DOING THE DIRTY
ON CELTIC BY GOING ACROSS TOWN TO THE HUNS.
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49.1064 | Rumour monger | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | EVERYBODY'S HEADS FINE | Tue Nov 08 1994 18:17 | 16 |
|
I've heard from a couple of people that the Swede is only here for
a month & he will be signing for an English club.
I hope it is all just rumours because after saturdays performance he
looks to be a great asset to "AYRshire's no'1 Team".
I thought we were a little unfortunate on saturday,okay the first half
we were a bit crap(and Paterson missed a sitter,he's got to go)but the
second half we took the game by the scruff of the neck and given some
luck in front of goal we maybe would have snatched a goal or two.
Anyway, Airdrie's HIGH to end at the Hallowed on saturday
fin
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49.1065 | Money is the spice of life.....no matter who you are | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | We Now Work In Prison CELLS | Tue Nov 08 1994 22:34 | 14 |
|
re-1063
1st.... STOP SHOUTING !!!!! it is irritating.....
2nd.... Why would Mo-Jo want to even consider signing for Ayr when he
is on �3000 a week at Tynecastle for playing in the reserves.
3rd.... If you had already told an employer that you would accept a job
with him, then the opposition offered you more money and more
perks to work for them, would you say NO !!!!! I think not...
for that would make you a mercenary !!!!!
SQF Jambo #1
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49.1066 | Money is a short term motivator.....Aye right ! | PAKORA::JJACK | Coca-Cola Red Hot Celtic | Wed Nov 09 1994 01:47 | 13 |
|
Siddley,
Money isn't everything to everyone. Take me for example. I was recently
offered �18,000 + 50% shift allowance to go & work for a computer
rival.
Values are important to me, so I decided to stay here.....plus I didn't
fancy taking a wage cut.
8*)
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49.1067 | AYR UNITED 0 AIRDRIE 3 | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Mon Nov 14 1994 10:40 | 3 |
| Roll on December 17th!
Gavin
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49.1068 | The worst ever ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Nov 14 1994 13:07 | 18 |
| Saturday's performance was, without doubt, the worst display I have
ever seen from any Ayr United side for the last 25 years. One shot at
goal in 90 minutes. I am completely disillusioned with Stainrod. He is
wasting the club's money with all these no-hoper foreign imports. That
guy on Saturday, Jose Cortez, looked like he'd never seen a ball
before. He looked like Ruud Gullit and played like Ruud Gesture. Nylen
was no better. He got shafted for the first goal. Valletta was
everywhere except where the ball was and Bilsland is just an annoying
wee thug with a nasty streak, and he's a cheat. Who else........Duncan
is back to his worst. Rolling is being dragged down and McGivern was
dead slow. Sharples cost the second goal and Burns is a waste of a
jersey.
The next 2 games are both away. Perth first then Dundee. I reckon Ayr
will be lucky to escape with an 8 goal deficit from them. I won't be
there at either of them.
Kev...
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49.1069 | You don't wanna do that ! | PAKORA::JJACK | Coca-Cola Red Hot Celtic | Mon Nov 14 1994 17:31 | 10 |
|
Kev,
Maybe you should buy that well known Dutch trio of........
Ruud Gusset
Rene Van Der Jerkoff
and Hertz Van Rental
|
49.1070 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Nov 15 1994 09:04 | 6 |
| JJ
Don't you dare tell Stainrod about them, they'll be next on his
shopping list.
Kev...
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49.1071 | an away point ! yipee ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Nov 28 1994 16:42 | 13 |
| Dundee 1-1 Ayr
No match report as my boycott of "away games more than 25 miles away"
continues. 8-|
Ayr it seems played with 5 across the back and were criticised on the
radio,tv,newspapers and church magazine for being defensive. "The whole
team played as defenders and tried to get behind the ball whenever they
lost it" quoth the Shiny-headed one from Dens Park.
Seems like a fair game plan to me.
Kev...
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49.1072 | DOWN DOWN DOWN | PAKORA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Tue Nov 29 1994 19:52 | 4 |
|
RE:-LAST
Sounds like Ayr United football to me.
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49.1073 | ;-) | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Dec 01 1994 08:54 | 8 |
| re .1072
You're right Charlie, and it bears a striking resemblance to a method
and style of play employed by a certain bunch of soap-dodgers from
North Ayrshire as well. Perhaps you could ask 1 of the 6000 born-again
Beirut boys, who I'm referring to.
Kev...
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49.1074 | Beirut in the sun | WSTENG::DSMITH | Shut the F**K up Mr. Howe | Thu Dec 01 1994 10:25 | 13 |
|
Kev,
your being a little hard on our friends from Beirut. Our chairmans
company has tarted up their ground and by all accounts Killie are
playing better football than last season, although that certainly
wouldn't be too difficult.
Would you agree that if Ayr somehow manage a win against Raith on
Saturday, we can rightly say we're a better team than Celtic?
Danny.
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49.1075 | Ho Ho Ho ;-) | AYOV16::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Dec 01 1994 11:09 | 12 |
| Dan,
We don't need to beat Raith to know were better than Celtic.
Q. What's the difference between Cammy Duncan and Gordon Marshall
Ans. No , not the obvious "One is a goalie, the other is a hairdresser"
The answer is.....
Cammy Duncan actually SAVED a penalty at the weekend.
Kev...
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49.1076 | | AYOV16::IREID | Our day will come...... | Mon Dec 05 1994 11:20 | 4 |
|
You're a barrell o' laughs.
:-)
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49.1077 | Your day has come and gone | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Dec 05 1994 13:31 | 3 |
| You've met me then ?
Kev...
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49.1078 | Missing.....from primary 6.... | KIRKTN::JROWAN | Auchinleck Talbot WILL be back! | Mon Dec 05 1994 22:29 | 4 |
| Who is this "IREID" who has recently come into our midst. He has popped
up in the Junior note as well talking absolute crap. Stay in the Celtic
topic son an away an bile yur heed.
|
49.1079 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | by land by sea | Tue Dec 06 1994 07:23 | 5 |
|
In the press today it states that former Ayr winger Barry Scott has
signed for Auchinleck .Scott who was an U18 international has also had
spells with St Mirren and Colchester Utd .
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49.1080 | Doubt it.... | AYOV16::IREID | Our day will come...... | Tue Dec 06 1994 10:23 | 7 |
| RE -2
What crap am I talking in the Junior note? I merely stated
the facts. So unless you can come up with some constructive
criticism, I suggest you stick to *your* own notes.
CTT
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49.1081 | OUCH OUCH OUCH !!!!!!!!!!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | by land by sea | Sat Dec 10 1994 19:56 | 29 |
|
Dunfermline 6 (six) Ayr United 0
The nightmare continues,this was the latest in a whole line of failures
this season by a team who clearly have little or no fight in them .For
Ayr to loose by six to anyone in the same division as them used to be
unthinkable,however these days it comes as little surprise . The big
question is what do we do now ? It's a year to the day since Burley's
1-6 failure at East End cost him his job,will Stainrod suffer the same
fate ?
Its seems pointless sacking the guy only to bring some other punter and
give him a budget of zero pounds for players .So no doubt we'll soldier
on a take the drop for a couple of seasons then come back up with a new
team loaded with Killie and Hearts frees and the whole cycle will start
again untill we tumble back down two or three years down the line .
When will these directors realise that cash and only cash will cure the
clubs problems .There has been plenty of the country's "middle" clubs
that have taken the plunge down to the second,however clubs like Falkirk,
Killie,Dunfermline and StJohnstone seem to learn their leason and spend
big to ensure it never happens again .Only Ayr fail to see this and carry
on with the same shortsighted policys that got the there in the first
place .
The fight against the drop is far from over yet but if we loose at home
to St Mirren,Hamilton or Clydebankin the next few weeks then fat lady will
be singing loudly indeed .
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49.1082 | Valetta and Grierson are next.... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Dec 12 1994 09:12 | 11 |
| The Daily Record has the long knives out for SS today (about 3 months
after the fans however) and they predict a Christmas on the Rock'n'Roll
for the sad one. They also have a story on how Garry Paterson has been
freed as a result of 'indiscipline'. It appears that he deliberately
injured Julian Dowe on the training ground. Don McVicar is also leaving
and is expected to join Dundee. 2 lucky guys from what I can see.......
20 grand of club money down the pan however with the freeing of half of
the pantomime horse.
Kev....
|
49.1083 | Christmas stories | WSTENG::DSMITH | Shut the F**K up Mr. Howe | Sat Dec 17 1994 08:49 | 17 |
|
Couple of "fictional" stories in today's comics.
1. Garry Agnew has started training again, 2 years after being advised
to retire from the game due to a pelvic injury. He'd be a good one
to get back.
2. Rumours "sweeping Ayr" last night are that Mr. Souness is
interested in returning to football at an executive level and is
said to be looking to take over at Somerset. His good friend, David
Murray has briefed him on "the potential at Somerset". 2 bags of
crisps and a bar of chocolate could probably buy the current squad
of players. Anfield legend, Stevie Nicol, may be invited back with
Souness. Allegedly.
Danny.
|
49.1084 | Our day will not come !! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | by land by sea | Sat Dec 17 1994 10:05 | 10 |
| Dan,
I think the potential that was talked about was the crowd potential
ie size of catchment area and not the potential of the current squad of
players .
It would be nice if it was true but I don't think we are that
lucky.
|
49.1085 | Going downhill fast | WSTENG::DSMITH | Shut the F**K up Mr. Howe | Sat Dec 17 1994 10:32 | 19 |
|
How's life Sal, long time no hear.
Your probably correct, if Killie (spit) can attract good crowds and
some decent players, there's no reason why Ayr shouldn't be able to
match them. However, the club has been going downhill for many years
now, mainly due to incompetent managers and several boards of directors
with little or no ambition.
I think it's a very strong possibility that Ayr will be relegated
within the next few weeks!! They really have to take at least 7 points
from the games with Clydebank, Hamilton and St. Mirren to give
themselves a boost for the rest of the season. Mind you, a victory over
our friends from North Ayrshire in the famous Ayrshire Cup Final today
would certainly help morale. No, I won't be attending, more important
things to attend to, like getting pished at the group night out.
Danny.
|
49.1086 | 3000 shop lifters are in town !!!! | MASALA::GMCDONALD | by land by sea | Sat Dec 17 1994 13:16 | 10 |
|
Dan,
I don't think there is anyway we will beat the Killie today,even if
we did we would hear the cry of "it was our 2nd team" and we wouldn't
be able to boost our morale very much .
About our future in the second division,well I'm inclined to agree with
you on that .Unless there is a saviour in the wings !
|
49.1087 | | KIRKTN::EMACDONALD | I want BRAS on my Cell | Sat Dec 17 1994 13:21 | 2 |
| reply to your heading should that not be shirt lifters
|
49.1088 | It just had to be said........ | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | We Now Work In Prison CELLS | Sat Dec 17 1994 13:30 | 5 |
| re-1
I think you may well be right there......Ma Auld Mucker......
SQF Jambo #1
|
49.1089 | A WALK IN THE PARK IT SEEMS !!!! | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | by land by sea | Sat Dec 17 1994 17:41 | 13 |
| AYRSHIRE CUP FINAL 1994/95
Ayr United 4 Kilmarnock 1
Sharples Brown
Gilzean
Dowe
Rolling
SQFHM...
|
49.1090 | ??????? | MASALA::GMCDONALD | by land by sea | Sun Dec 18 1994 08:08 | 12 |
|
More stuff in the Sunday Papers about the "Souness takeover bid",Ayr
chairman Bill Barr it seems can neither comfirm or deny that any talks
have taken place and states that everything will become more clear this
week .
The Sunday Post claims that there was a meeting between the Souness
camp and Ayr's main share holders Barr,Smith and Cameron was held last
Wednesday .
Food for thought but I still have the feeling that we've had our
chance with Murray .
SQFHM...
|
49.1091 | Ho Ho Ho ! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Dec 19 1994 12:18 | 133 |
| Ayrshire Cup Final 1994/95
Ayr United 4 - 1 Kilmarnock
Well, where do I start ? Should I mention the fact that all the Kilmarnock
fans were 'bringing calculators' to tot up there score (pretty sad if they
can't count to one). Perhaps I'll just stick to the actual game itself.
A crowd of 3467 braved the horrendous weather to witness one of the most
emphatic derby victories ever by Ayr United. After last week's drubbing at
Dunfermline, hopes were not high for a victory and as Kilmarnock fielded a
side containing only 3 untried players, the omens were that Ayr would again
be on the receiving end from their Ayrshire neighbours for the 4th year in
a row. Ayr were forced into several changes with Greg Hood in Greece with
the Scotland U21 squad, Sam McGivern injured and Vinnie Moore banned. This
meant that Frank Rolling was pushed forward into midfield, Julian Dowe was
given his home debut and Colin McFarlane, a close season signing from
Baillieston was given his debut. Ian Gilzean and Regis Gorgues were also
forced to play while still recovering from injuries.
As early as the 2nd minute, Ayr gave notice of their intentions when they
pushed Killie back and forced a couple of corners which the visitors
scrambled clear. The Killie defence was already looking frail however and
Alex Tottering's decision to play 3 boys in defence was exposed in the
13th minute when after another corner, the defence failed to clear and John
Sharples hammered home the loose ball past the helpless Geddes for the
opener. Killie were playing with the wind, but failed to harness it to any
great effect, causing no anxious moments for the homesters who were growing
in confidence as the expected onslaught failed to materialise. In 32 minutes,
Neil McKilligan took a pass from defence and split the Killie rearguard with
a through ball. Ian Gilzean pursued it and turned Kevin Doig inside out
before sprinting clear to curl a left foot shot past Geddes for the second.
He really enjoyed this and over-celebrated with a Klinsmann style dive towards
the visiting fans in the Railway End. The Ayr fans were loving every minute of
this encounter and should have had more to cheer about when Gilzean struck a
post when scoring seemed easier. Kilmarnock's defensive errors were becoming
more and more frequent as Millen showed why Celtic were interested in him :-)
and the youngsters Hamilton , Anderson ,Lauchlan and Doig toiled in the
difficult conditions. It should be said however that supposed class players
like Connor,Henry,Skilling and Williamson were no better at all.
The second half started with Killie in attacking formation. Young Doig had
been spared further embarrassment by being replaced with McCarrison and as
Killie played with a flat back 4 into the wind, I sensed this would be Ayr's
day. I'm not really sure where McCarrison was playing as he did not appear
to take up any particular position and the midfield was swamped by the
majestic figure of Frank Rolling and the industrious Regis Gorgues and Duncan
George. Hugh Burns also figured a lot with some teasing crosses and a tackle
here and there (wonders will never cease). Killie's 10 minutes of pressure
payed off when John Henry twisted and turned in the penalty area before
firing into the far corner past Cammy Duncan. It was almost 2 when Killie
got the ball in behind the defence but a tremendous saving tackle by Sharples
cleared the danger. Ayr replied with a series of corners and put the Killie
defence under severe pressure for long periods. Hugh Burns was released by a
brilliant Rolling pass and as he homed in on goal he was clearly held back by
a defender. Louis Thow however saw it otherwise and let play continue. The ball
broke to the touchline and Burns,Connie, Skilling and Hamilton all clashed as
football was forgotton for a minute. As the dust settled, Skilling and Burns
received yellow cards for a 'handbags at dawn confrontation' which the ref
could have avoided, had he penalised the Killie player who initially fouled
Burns. A few minutes later and 'the contest' was over. Burns chased a long
ball to the bye-line and cut it back. There was no takers in an Ayr shirt
but as the Killie defence only cleared it as far as Julian Dowe on the edge
of the box, he thundered it past Geddes for number 3. Delirium ensued as
the Somerset End went mad. Songs were trotted out which I had almost forgotten
the words to as the fans danced, sang and generally ripped the pish out the
poor Kilmarnock team and support. A few minutes later and it should have been
4. A corner from Burns saw 4 Ayr players attack the ball, which ended up in
Floppy Geddes' arms inside the net. The ref , obviously attempting to spare
the blushes of the 'Premier League' side , chalked it off. The repreive was
shortlived however as Gilzean received the ball on the right touchline and
hooked over an inviting left-foot cross which Geddes came out for. He did not
get it. Frank Rolling did. A tremendous diving header. The net bulged.
The Killie faithful trudged towards the exit and home to the wastelands.
5 minutes more partying and the ref whistled the end of a 90 minute shafting
that would have made Julian Clary weak at the knees. The cup was back from a
3-year sojourn in Beirut. Back in it's rightful place. Confusion reigned as
the cup appeared, but no-one arrived to present it. After a couple of minutes,
Hugh Burns presented it to himself as the fans belted out 'Simply The Best'
along with the tannoy. Ian Gilzean,the shy retiring chap that he is, was at this
moment, dancing, waving and saying cheerio to the few remaining Killie boys
who were unlucky enough to be stuck in the ground as the cup was presented.
A couple of them responded by raising two fingers of each hand. I think they
had used their calculators to count Ayr's goals........or maybe not ;-)))
Let's keep this in perspective however. Killie were crap. We've had much
harder games in the league this year and there will be more to come.
Ayr's players responded to last week's defeat magnificently and even the
most biased and arrogant Beirut boys (hello Charlie !)would have to admit
they played well. (That's if they were actually at the game that is)
Ayr United.
Duncan - rarely troubled, but 2 excellent point blank stops in second half
McKilligan - worked hard, solid in defence
Connie - settling into left back position well
McFarlane - outstanding debut for the ex-Junior. One for the future.
Rolling - faultless, a class apart, stunning goal
Sharples - excellent match, rock solid with McFarlane
Burns - some telling passes and more commitment than of late
George - as usual, hard as nails, never gave an inch
Gilzean - best game yet in an Ayr jersey. scored one and made one, good dancer
Dowe - impressive debut, took goal well, could be a real find.
Gorgues - back to his best, teased the defence all afternoon
Jackson - came on for Dowe. Little time to shine, but troubled defence with pace
Tannock - on for Gorgues. Will benefit from playing in a winning team.
Kilmarnock
Geddes - "Santa" to the Ayr fans. Can't see why Totten dropped him.
Hamilton - sad debut. clueless against the guile of Regis Gorgues
Anderson - lost his way in the second half
Lauchlan - one for the future :-)
Doig - never recovered from losing second goal. subbed at half time
Millen - if this was the shop window, he'll be a January sale bargain
Brown - a wee thug. obviously learned how to elbow from Bobby the Jobby. subbed
before he got sent off
Henry - the only Killie player to get pass marks
Williamson - stunningly untalented. the end is nigh !
Connor - hasn't his career taken a nose-dive ? sad return for an ex-favourite
Skilling - was he playing ? needs more time to recover from his injury.
McCarrison - ditto
Roberts - the wonder-kid failed to add anything to his lifeless team-mates.
No doubt we'll hear all the usual disclaimers about 'reserves' and 'we're
concentrating on the league', but Killie had supposedly a few hundred grands
worth of 'talent' on display and they were very poor. When you're an Ayr fan,
every victory is worth savouring. I'll have a nice Christmas. Hope you do too.
Kev...
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49.1092 | Christmas come's early for Ayr utd fans | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | | Mon Dec 19 1994 19:50 | 16 |
|
Kev,
That was a fine match report you've written.Just about as good as
the Joyous occasion itself.
It was our best performance of the season so far & we must carry
this over into the league,if we played like that everyweek we wouldn't
be sitting where we are just now.
It was good to see all the Black Greetin faces heading home at
4.30pm. Going home for a rake in their buckets ?????????
|
49.1093 | MERRY CHRISTMAS... | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Thu Dec 22 1994 11:09 | 11 |
| All the seasonal best to all in Note 49. I take it you liked our
Christmas present then!
No excuses! Even with the team we fielded, I thought we should have
won. If you can carry that kind of committment on to your next few
league games, you should end your season in mid-table. Same as us
hopefully.
Regards
Gavin
|
49.1094 | Dreams CAN come true | KIRKTN::JROWAN | Auchinleck Talbot WILL be back! | Wed Dec 28 1994 15:35 | 12 |
| Happy new year to one and all. This will probably be our last new year
working for D.E.C. at SQF. Motorola probably won't let us keep the
notes conference so my wishes for '95 are as follows..............
Auchinleck to win Junior cup.
Ayr Utd to win 1st Division.
Killie to win a european place.
Och well........ we can all dream.
|
49.1095 | ONLY ONE TEAM IN AYRSHIRE | KIRKTN::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Fri Jan 06 1995 12:14 | 3 |
|
Hello is there anybody there ????????????
|
49.1096 | Like who, for instance ? | AYOV29::DUTY93_MALC | Ooh, ooh, Mr Peevely | Fri Jan 06 1995 12:16 | 1 |
|
|
49.1097 | Or there's nobody here but us chickens ? | AYOV29::DUTY93_MALC | Ooh, ooh, Mr Peevely | Fri Jan 06 1995 12:19 | 1 |
|
|
49.1098 | Cue more wasted diskspace.... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jan 06 1995 12:54 | 11 |
| re. 1095
Yes Charlie, still here. Did you enjoy the Ayrshire Cup Final ? Just
in case you missed the score it was 4-1 to Ayr. I have saved several
press cuttings for you, what's your internal mail address ? ;-)
re 1096,1097
Oh God, Ayr's answer to JBG and JB. Spare us.
Kev....
|
49.1099 | And some more ... | AYOV29::DUTY93_MALC | Ooh, ooh, Mr Peevely | Fri Jan 06 1995 13:41 | 6 |
|
I'm sorry Kev, but I just couldn't stop myself. I'll delete them if
you feel strongly about it.
Malc.
|
49.1100 | Another milestone | WSTENG::DSMITH | Shut the F**K up Mr. Howe | Fri Jan 06 1995 13:55 | 9 |
|
Don't bother, it means we don't have to wait other week or two to
get to note 1100!!!
Danny.
ps Whits the odds on Stainrod getting the big heave within the next
week or so? I don't think you'll get a bet on it.
|
49.1101 | Case for the defence, m'lud | AYOV29::DUTY93_MALC | Ooh, ooh, Mr Peevely | Fri Jan 06 1995 14:28 | 17 |
|
IMO I reckon they'll keep him at least till the end of the season
just to see what happens. He has quite a few plus points on his side,
I would say. He kept Ayr Utd in the 1st division last season (admittedly
by the skin of his teeth), he is arguably the highest profile manager
in the first div and has a lot of contacts and thereby 'clout' throughout
the game. When Rangers got Souness as their manager a lot of big(ish)
name players joined Rangers purely because of who Souness was, and I
think probably Ayr Utd were hoping for the same effect with Simes. To
a much lesser degree I think that has happened with all the foreigners
that have arrived. Maybe he just needs a wee bit more luck.
And at the end of the day who would they get to replace him who is
going to be that much better ?
Malc (I can be serious when I want to be).
|
49.1102 | Simon OK by me | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | John Hussey - Exiled in jocko land | Fri Jan 06 1995 15:03 | 13 |
| I think Stainrod not doing too bad a job really considering he has no money to
buy any decent players. It seems to me as if the Ayr board are more interested
in working their way up the SFA/League organisation than actually seeing Ayr
being succesfull.
I think the lack of ambition filters its way down to the players who know that
they'll receive a nice cheque at the end of the season when there all released.
Even Greg Hood the captain is considering going to Arbroath in some sort of
coaching capacity.
Anyway he's English so he can't be that bad!
PS. I believe Ayr escaped relagation by 6 points last year (Hardly skin of teeth)
|
49.1103 | Guilty | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jan 06 1995 15:08 | 28 |
|
The case against....
He inherited a team of old puddens who he replaced with young puddens.
The team lay in the same position at the end of the season as when he
joined them. No great improvement there. When any club gets a new
manager, there is a certain honeymoon period where the players are
start trying again. Witness a couple of rare away victories when SS
joined up. Ayr stayed in the first Division by 6 points. He has spent
a lot of money signing foreign imports with no feeling for the club
and no loyalty to the jersey. Gilzean ,Dowe and Jackson haven't shown
the same effort as Ross Jack did when he played. Only Duncan George
puts his heart into it in midfield and Sharples in defence. Paterson
proved to be a big eejit who spent too much time partying ( and before
anyone says that's slander, it's only slander if it ain't true and I
know it's true !), that was 20K down the pan. Valetta is rubbish.
Gourges flatters to deceive, has anyone ever seen him beat a player ?
The players do not gel often enough to be called a team, they barely
string 2 passes together and generally don't look interested. I woud
keep Duncan,McKilligan,Sharples,Hood,Rolling,George,Traynor and the
rest can take a hike. Ayr are about to post record losses and reports
are that Cameron has had to sink money in to keep the bank happy.
Reports also say the players have already been told they are going part
time next year, no matter if they stay up or go down. There's a real
incentive to play well. I reckon, if Ayr lose on Saturday, SS will on
the rock & roll by Monday.
Kev...
|
49.1104 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jan 06 1995 15:14 | 12 |
| re .1102
I think it's Hugh Burns that's applied for the post of manager at
Arbroath, Greg Hood is only 20 !
If you had actually been at some of the games recently, you may not
feel that Simon is "OK by You" Just because he's English, does not make
him a good manager (I'm thinking of Graham Taylor, Terry Butcher etc).
I reckon he's on borrowed time...
Kev..
|
49.1105 | I call on the jury for mercy ... | AYOV29::DUTY93_MALC | Ooh, ooh, Mr Peevely | Fri Jan 06 1995 16:05 | 15 |
|
Call me psychic if you like, but I get this strange feeling that
Our Simon wasn't on your Christmas card list last year.
I still stand by what I said earlier. It wasn't that long ago that
you won a cup if my memory serves me correctly this time, and it would
only take a couple of decent results to start clawing your way back
up the league again. And at the end of the day who is the mug that is
going to take over ? (funny you mentioned Terry Butcher...)
Malc.
PS I think I last saw Ayr play 20 years ago. Aberdeen beat them 7-0.
Is Rikki Fleming still getting a game ?
|
49.1106 | I'm on a roll now.... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Fri Jan 06 1995 16:27 | 25 |
| Psychic,
SS is a decent sort of bloke away from footy. As a manager, he sucks.
Motivation is needed at the moment and you don't get it by slagging
players off in the press every time the team lose. Yeah we won a cup,
against our poxy near-neighbours. It doesn't actually get us any points
though and we're now in a situation where we're 3 points below
Stranraer, who had 7 ex Ayr players in their team on Monday. That's 7
players deemed not good enough to don the black and white. It's going
to take a minor miracle to keep Ayr in the league. There are 16 games
left, 48 points up for grabs. I think, considering we've taken 13
points from the previous 60, I'm entitled to be pissed off. As for who
is the next diddy in the manager's chair, you'd be surprised how many
applicants there would be for the job. Arbroath for instance had eleven
people applying for a job where the door in is a revolving one that
spews the same guy out in 4-5 months. At 30K a year, I'd jack in DEC
and be Ayr manager given a chance. Seriously though, Sanny McAnespie of
Stranraer is being widely touted as a possible replacement. He at least
has a feeling for the club (16 years as a player) and knows that
results on the park are more important than looking good in McArthur's
on a Saturday night.
Rikki Fleming ? I think he retired a couple of months ago....
Kev...
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49.1107 | Taxi for Mr Stainrod! | AYOV29::DUTY93_MALC | Ooh, ooh, Mr Peevely | Fri Jan 06 1995 16:41 | 9 |
|
I fear I will have to bow to your far superior local knowledge, Kev.
Putting in a mention for Rikki Fleming was my last hope. I did once go
and see Ayr Utd reserves play Rangers reserves at Somerset Park. Ayr
won 1-0, Rangers had Derek Johnstone playing centre half and had two
players sent off (oh dear how sad never mind ...)
The defence rests.
|
49.1108 | Hold the taxi for a week or two... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jan 09 1995 08:40 | 8 |
| Every Friday from now until the end of the season, I shall launch into
a tirade against the team in the hope that it has the same effect as it
did on Saturday. For anyone who missed it, the luck finally went our
way. A Frank Rolling shot from 25 yards slipped through the keepers
arms and legs and trickled over the line and Bissy hammered home a
second in the last minute to seal the victory.
Kev...
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49.1109 | Simon Stainrod - Manager of the Month | AYOV29::DUTY93_MALC | Ooh, ooh, Mr Peevely | Fri Jan 13 1995 13:56 | 15 |
|
Kev, I'm looking forward to your promised Friday afternoon team talk.
In case you need some ammunition to start you off :
Simon Stainrod is showing true managerial qualities by using the
famous reverse psychology trick of slagging off his own players in
public to spur them on to greater efforts once they make it onto the
pitch. He is setting himself up to be Ayr manager for the next 10 years
at least and may even beat Jim Smiler McLean's record as the longest
serving manager in Scottish football (or was it Eddie Foulmouth Hunter).
This time next month Ayr could be on the fringes of promotion ! (Did
anybody else just see that pig flying past ?)
Malc.
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49.1110 | Paul Sturrock's Blue and white army | MASALA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Tue Jan 17 1995 20:39 | 5 |
|
Hi Kev, Where is the team talk ?
Charlie.
|
49.1111 | SS MUST STAY | MASALA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Mon Jan 23 1995 09:16 | 4 |
|
Is there anybody there ????????????????????????????????????.
Charlie (SQF,KFC)
|
49.1112 | You only note when your winning.... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Jan 23 1995 15:19 | 5 |
| Roll on June 26th.
Motorola don't like notes files.........;^)
Kev....
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49.1113 | HOOK LINE AND SINKER. | MASALA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Mon Jan 23 1995 18:54 | 11 |
|
Hi Kev,
Motorola don't have notes but that has its good points and its bad
points,the good points are I will not have to read your p@�h about
ayr UTD,and the bad points are i will miss winding YOU up and adding
the odd note in note 50.
Charlie Motorola (SQF,KFC)
|
49.1114 | 8-)))))) | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Jan 24 1995 09:13 | 23 |
| Oh how silly of me not to notice you were winding me up. Gosh I'm
gullible. I'm having real trouble getting that hook out after snaffling
your tasty bait.....
NOT !
Get a life Charlie, your notes are almost always crap. Nothing of any
interest. No match reports (but then you don't go to the games do you?)
full of really good spelling mistakes (is this a requirement when you
support Beirut ?) and you put more notes in 49 than 50. I reckon your
a closet Ayr fan. You spend more time in 49.
As for not wanting to read my notes....NEXT UNSEEN works for me, or at
least when I see another of your witticisms on my screen. No one forces
you to read anything......oh damn, there I am again. Rising to the bait
I really must learn
Hugs,
Kev...
ps
4-1
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49.1115 | Utd fans dancing in the streets of Raith?? | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | Only Houdini can help us now | Tue Jan 24 1995 22:21 | 16 |
|
Airdrie 2 Ayr utd 2
Gilzean
Rolling
Kev,
If you were there can you give us a match report???
I didnt bother to make the trip as I'm Nightshift.
I seen on teletext we were winning 2-1 before Airdrie got a
penalty to level the scoring....
cheeers
fin...
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49.1116 | Loads of goals. | WSTENG::DSMITH | Shut the F**K up Mr. Howe | Wed Jan 25 1995 00:56 | 9 |
|
Utd back on form perhaps? Well, last night they doubled the number of
goals they've scored away from home this season, a grand total of 4.
Whit's the chances of an away victory before the end of the season?
Thats us within 2 points of St. Mirren and 3 behind Clydebank, so still
a reasonable chance of avoiding the dreaded drop into the wilderness.
Danny.
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49.1117 | DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN | MASALA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Thu Feb 02 1995 03:05 | 4 |
|
Utd are back on form perhaps,NOT.
Charlie.
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49.1118 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Feb 02 1995 08:47 | 6 |
| 18-12-94
four-one
nuff said
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49.1119 | Slag united???? | MASALA::IMCNEIL | wot no beer | Sat Feb 04 1995 21:23 | 11 |
|
raith rovers 2 Ayr United 1 another rotten result,when will it ever
end, Is B Barr ever going to do anything to stop this decline.
The man in question was in the daily ranger or celtic or what ever
the bigots call it last week,and it mentioned about his "beloved"
Ayr Utd. That's a F***king Joke EH!!!!
Sic.
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49.1120 | Attention Division 2. | WSTENG::DSMITH | Shut the F**K up Mr. Howe | Sun Feb 05 1995 16:01 | 17 |
|
re last
You surely don't expect Barr to dip into his pockets and supply the
kind of money needed at Somerset do you? He may have plans for
Somerset, but he'll probably demolish it and use it as a central
location for his building empire. Where the team will play is anyone's
guess.
Barr Construction have been adding the pieces of lego to the newly
refurbished Rugby Park, looked good on TV last night :-(, are also
involved in the new stadium at Love Street and Firhill I think. Barr
is also quoted as being heavily involved in some stadium upgrades down
south. Now, wonder when he'll start on Somerset.
Danny.
|
49.1121 | some where over the rainbow | MASALA::IMCNEIL | wot no beer | Mon Feb 06 1995 02:48 | 15 |
|
re last,
Your right I,m not that naive as to think Barr would
open his bank book and let his reddies flow into somerset.
What I can't understand is why did he come back to the club
become chairman and then want to sit in that old wooden
stand and watch the club go down the toilet.
On a different note do you think SMcAnespie will be the next
manager.He's done not a bad job down the road.
|
49.1122 | I THINK MR BARR SHOULD STAY | MASALA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Tue Feb 07 1995 16:22 | 8 |
|
Ian, look at it this way,would you go into a betting shop and put money
on something that was not going to win anything(ever)? I think thats
the way Mr Barr is looking at it.
nuff said.
Charlie (sqf,KFC).
|
49.1123 | not e nuff said. | MASALA::IMCNEIL | wot no beer | Tue Feb 07 1995 19:35 | 4 |
|
Christ, Charlie actually wrote more than one line!!!!
send for Athur C Clarke to investigate this wonder????
|
49.1124 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Feb 09 1995 12:31 | 15 |
| Not only did he write more than one line, it only contained one
grammatical error and
wait for it....
No spelling mistakes !!!
Have a lie down now Charlie....
Hugs,
Kev.....
|
49.1125 | I'd see anyone for nowt | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | John Hussey - Ayr we go | Fri Feb 10 1995 14:17 | 6 |
| Off to Somerset Park tomorrow for the first time since the Celtic match for
SS's boys against leaders Dundee. I dare say that all you SQF chaps are hoping
Ayr can pull off a surprise.
Anyway, there should be a big crowd tomorrow judging by the number of free
tickets going around. Is anyone paying to go there?
|
49.1126 | Dundee till end of season please!! | KIRKTN::IMCNEIL | wot no beer | Sat Feb 11 1995 18:12 | 9 |
|
Ayr United 1 Dundee 0
Moore 4 min
Seems the great Stainrod can fire up the team well for a visit
from his old muckers,wouldn't it be good if it happened every
week.But credit where it's due a good result.
|
49.1127 | Ya Beauty.....!!!!!!! | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Sat Feb 11 1995 18:37 | 10 |
| Dundee were crap, Moore could have had a hat-trick and Ayr could have
had 2 penalties. Watch the TV tomorrow if you don't believe me....
Another interesting result in Div 1
St Midden 1-2 Raith
Ayr move out of the bottom 2.....
Kev....
|
49.1128 | Friendly Arranged | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | A Pie and a Bovril | Thu Feb 16 1995 00:00 | 8 |
|
Ayr utd are playing Partick Thistle at somserset on Friday 7:30pm kick
off.
It should be an interesting match.
cheers fin...
|
49.1129 | ??? | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Mon Feb 20 1995 14:56 | 3 |
| Well? Was it interesting?
Gavin
|
49.1130 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon Feb 20 1995 16:42 | 5 |
| Reasonably interesting....
0-2 for Plastic Whistle...
Kev...
|
49.1131 | DOWN DOWN DOWN | KIRKTN::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Mon Feb 27 1995 16:13 | 6 |
|
Ayr 1 Dunfermline 2
Another reasonably interesting result.
Charlie (sqf,KFC)
|
49.1132 | June 26th - Roll on June 26th..... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue Feb 28 1995 08:52 | 3 |
49.1133 | V.L.S.I = P45. | MASALA::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Mon Mar 06 1995 02:36 | 5 |
49.1136 | i'm off for a cup 'o' tea and a slice 'o' cake. | MASALA::JMURPHY | | Mon Mar 06 1995 02:51 | 3 |
49.1137 | going down | BHAJI::CMT | | Mon Mar 06 1995 02:59 | 4 |
49.1138 | Gizza job!!! | MASALA::AGRAY | The world's your lobster | Mon Mar 06 1995 03:01 | 4 |
49.1139 | Yer awe tattie howkers. | KURMA::CMT | | Mon Mar 06 1995 03:51 | 4 |
49.1140 | STOP IT NOW!!!! | RTOVC0::DCASSIDY | | Mon Mar 06 1995 11:06 | 23 |
|
Ref note 49.1132-1139
Whilst the plight of certain Digital installations may be of interest
to all of those noter's notes that have been hidden, and of course to
all Digital employees worldwide, it is felt that the Schadenfreude
expressed by certain noters it a lttle out of line and more
particularly out of context with this notesfile.
Should those concerned wish to link the fact that a certain football
team has lost with the relevance of Digital employee status then I'm
afraid you have missed the whole point of this conference.
Should those involved in this silly 'game' wish to ignore this note
then I can assure you that Personnel involvement will not only be a
possibility but definitely a probability.
Regards,
Dezzz Moderator.
|
49.1141 | They think it's all over. It is now, it is now! | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Sun Mar 19 1995 22:11 | 6 |
| 89 mins gone... 0-0
Final Score.... 0-2
Oh, deary deary me!
Gavin.
|
49.1142 | Sad really | WSTENG::DSMITH | Shut the F**K up Mr. Howe | Mon Mar 20 1995 15:19 | 5 |
|
re -1
Yawn.
|
49.1143 | News update | WSTENG::DSMITH | Shut the F**K up Mr. Howe | Thu Mar 30 1995 14:48 | 17 |
|
This weeks Ayrshire Post runs a story on moves by Stainrod to
strengthen the squad at Somerset by touting Frank Rolling to several
clubs in a player/cash swap. He has approached Partick Thistle for
Chic Charnley, Grant Tierney and Andy Gibson; Falkirk for Gregg Shaw
and Brian Rice and Raith Rovers for Greg Shaw and Gordon Dalziel. He
reckons Rolling, along with John Sharples and Gregg Hood are Ayr's main
sellable assets.
On another topic. Barr Construction have been awarded the contract to
build the new stands at Easter Road. Bill Barr seems to be going from
strength to strength as his club slowly slip further into the sh*t.
Danny.
|
49.1144 | ONLY SIX GAMES TO GO | KIRKTN::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Fri Apr 07 1995 00:59 | 20 |
|
Hellooooooooo is there anybody THERE there THERE there ?????????????????????????
If there is,has Chic Charnley,Grant Tierney or Andy Shaw put pen to
paper yet ?.
Charlie(SQF,KFC)
|
49.1145 | Curious FAN,from AYRshire's No'1 | AYOV25::FHEWITSON | break on through to the other side | Tue Apr 11 1995 12:22 | 9 |
|
RE.1144
WHO'S ANDY SHAW ???????????????
Fin....
|
49.1146 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Pass the Babel Fish | Tue Apr 11 1995 12:25 | 7 |
| > S ANDY SHAW
Didn't she have a hit with "Puppet on a String" in the 1960's?
Hth
Stuart
|
49.1147 | | AYOV16::IREID | Our day will come....May 27th | Wed Apr 12 1995 11:54 | 6 |
|
Where are Ayr in the league?
Esp. in relation to Clydebank.
Choppers
|
49.1148 | In trouble | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | John Hussey - Dunure's great | Wed Apr 12 1995 12:06 | 11 |
| Basically if Ayr don't beat Clydebank on Saturday they're down. (St.Mirren
are at home to Stranraer).
Clydebank p31 29pts -11
St Mirren 31 27 -18
-----------------------------------
Ayr Utd 31 23 -26
Stranraer 31 17 -41
A trip to Somerset on Saturday to cheer on Ayr is required
|
49.1149 | | KIRKTN::CREILLY | THE KILLIE BOY | Wed Apr 12 1995 19:42 | 37 |
|
RE .1146
Andy Shaw is a films engineer in sqf,but I think he would fit in well
down at Ayr as he can't play football either.
Charlie.(SQF,KFC)
I would like to wish Ayr all the best for next season in the second
division.
Has anyone seen my mate Kev ? is he still alive ?
|
49.1150 | staying up!!!! | MASALA::IMCNEIL | wot no beer | Tue Apr 18 1995 08:50 | 5 |
|
What's happened to the game reports.
|
49.1151 | | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | John Hussey - Dunure's great | Tue Apr 18 1995 10:04 | 1 |
| Ayr rubbish, Bankies worse, Ayr scored!
|
49.1152 | They think it's all over... | WSTENG::DSMITH | | Sat Apr 29 1995 23:56 | 15 |
|
Hamilton 1 Ayr 0
Stranraer 0 Clydebank 1
St. Mirren 1 Dundee 0
Ayr United - Division 2 Champions 1995-96!!!!
Danny.
|
49.1153 | ta ta! | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Sun Apr 30 1995 11:23 | 4 |
| I have to admire your persistent enthusiasm Danny. I'm sure you'll do
it too!
Gavin
|
49.1154 | Sair reading........... | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Mon May 15 1995 11:46 | 85 |
| The story of a dismal season.........
Friendlies
JULY
23rd St James Gate 2-0 Gilzean (2) BK Stainrod,Paterson
24th UCD 0-3 BK Paterson
26th Galway Utd 3-1 Sharples,McGivern
Jackson
AUGUST
2nd MIDDLESBOROUGH 1-2 Gilzean BK Sharples
6th Lancaster 1-0 Paterson
League
1 13th HAMILTON ACC 1-1 Traynor BK Rolling
CC 16th CELTIC 0-1 BK Paterson,McGivern
2 20th ST MIRREN 1-1 Bilsland SO Sharples BK Burns Connie
2 27th Stranraer 1-2 McGivern SO Connie Duncan Woods
BK Paterson McVicar McGivern
Connie Duncan
SEPTEMBER
2 3rd ST JOHNSTONE 3-4 Stainrod,Traynor BK McVicar
Gilzean
3 10th Airdrie 0-0 - BK Burns
BQ 18th East Stirling 1-1 Burns (pen) BK McGivern
4-2 on penalties
6 24th DUNDEE 3-2 Jackson (2) George BK Stainrod Jackson Moore
BQ 27th STRANRAER 4-2 Burns Jackson BK Paterson George
Paterson George
OCTOBER
6 1st Raith Rovers 0-3 - BK Paterson Connie
BQ 4th Airdrie 0-2 - SO Sharples BK Paterson
Moore Burns McVicar
6 8th Clydebank 0-3 - BK Burns Moore George
7 15th DUNFERMLINE 0-0 - BK Hood Rolling
7 22nd Hamilton 0-2 - BK Moore
10 29th STRANRAER 2-1 Burns 2 penalties BK Paterson Moore
NOVEMBER
10 5th St Mirren 0-1 - BK Murray Paterson Nylen
Duncan
AC 9th GIRVAN 6-0 McKilligan 4 Moore
Bilsland
10 12th AIRDRIE 0-3 - SO Bilsland BK Bilsland
10 19th St Johnstone 0-1 -
11 26th Dundee 1-1 Hood
DECEMBER
12 3rd RAITH ROVERS 1-1 Hood BK Burns
12 10th Dunfermline 0-6 -
AC 17th KILMARNOCK 4-1 Sharples,Gilzean BK Burns
Dowe,Rolling
13 26th CLYDEBANK 1-1 Gourges BK Gilzean,Duncan
13 31st HAMILTON ACC 1-2 Dowe BK George
JANUARY
13 2nd Stranraer 0-2 - -
16 7th ST MIRREN 2-0 Rolling,Bilsland BK Sharples
16 14th ST JOHNSTONE 1-3 Jackson -
17 24th Airdrie 2-2 Gilzean,Rolling BK Moore,Jackson,Gilzean
SC 28th Raith Rovers 0-1 - BK Connie,Duncan
FEBRUARY
17 4th Raith Rovers 1-2 Moore
20 11th DUNDEE 1-0 Moore BK Rolling Moore Stainrod
20 25th DUNFERMLINE 1-2 McCathie OG -
MARCH
21 11th Clydebank 1-1 Hood -
21 18th AIRDRIE 0-2 - BK Hood
22 25th St Johnstone 1-1 Tannock BK Tannock
APRIL
22 1st RAITH ROVERS 0-1 - -
23 8th Dundee 1-1 Burns (pen) SO Duncan BK Burns George
Sharples Rolling McIntosh
26 15th CLYDEBANK 1-0 Gilzean BK Gilzean
26 22nd Dunfermline 0-3 - SO McIntosh BK Burns George
Gilzean
26 29th Hamilton 0-1 - BK Rolling George
MAY
29 6th STRANRAER 3-0 Tannock,Jackson -
Stainrod
29 13th St Mirren 1-2 Bilsland BK Connie Rolling
|
49.1155 | Big clearout required I reckon ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | Cop for that, our kid | Mon May 15 1995 17:10 | 12 |
|
Kev
I was looking back on our conversation a couple of months ago when
you were advocating the production of a P45 for Big Simon in view of
results at that time. In the light of more recent results and Ayrs
subsequent relegation do you not think it is strange that he is still
in the managers chair now ? Are you the only fan who wishes he would
head for the Job Centre ?
Malc.
|
49.1156 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Tue May 16 1995 11:28 | 28 |
| Malc,
It appears that our beloved chairman and our beloved manager are closer
than 2 peas in a pod. SS wants to stay at least another season and Barr
is quite willing to let him. From the 22-25 full-time players this year
his is allowed 7 fulltime for next season and that includes himself and
Sam McGivern. I am not happy with SS. He is too much of a poser and
tries to deflect the blame onto everyone but himself. Simon Stainless
would be a better name. I don't like managers who publicly criticise
players, no matter how bad they are. That should be done privately.
The main reason i was unhappy earlier was due to his signing of the
United Nations in an attempt to grab attention. Apart from Niclas Nylen
from Malmo, the rest were not worthy of the jersey. I am also not happy
with Barr as chairman. He was one of the main obstacles to David
Murray in 1988 and then left the club. He has millions of his own dosh
but wants everyone else to fork out for the club. His company now owns
500,000 shares in Ayr United, he owns some and Donald Cameron owns some
the rest are spread about in small quantities. He has installed 3 new
directors, all are employees of Barr Ltd. Smell like a takover to you ?
It won't be long until football turns into Basketball with fixtures
such as Ayr Barr Construction FC versus Beirut AT Mays Travel Agents FC or
Stranraer Stena Sealink Ferry Affordable FC versus Dumbarton Diadora FC
I want Barr out unless he spends some dosh. If Barr goes SS follows.
Kev...
|
49.1157 | This is before the league starts | SSMPRD::FHEWITSON | break on through to the other side | Wed May 31 1995 23:38 | 8 |
| Coca cola cup draw
AYR UTD v Cellick
Sat 19th August
fin...
|
49.1158 | thanks in advance ????? | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | M|OT|O|R|O|L|A|95 | Thu Jun 01 1995 00:15 | 7 |
| RE-1
Fin,
did you see who the Hearts got ?????
SQF Jambo #1
|
49.1159 | Come on ye Monty | MASALA::SWRIGHT | Anything for the weekend sir..? | Thu Jun 01 1995 00:19 | 9 |
|
No but Big Derek and the Boys got Livingston FC if this is any help
*:@)))
|
49.1160 | | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | | Sat Jun 24 1995 07:55 | 13 |
| Friday's Daily record carried a story to gladden the heart of every Ayr
fan...
Nothing to do with signings or transfers....
Jim O'Hare , that impeccable referee has been justly rewarded for last
years performances with a downgrading to ..wait for it..
Grade 4.!!!!!!!
Justice is done.
Kev...
|
49.1161 | NEW STRIP... | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Tue Jul 04 1995 10:15 | 6 |
| I'm curious to know what readers of note 49 think of the new Ayr strip
unveiled at Somerset on Sunday. I haven't seen it myself, but from a
recent description in the freepress it sounds lovely! I heard it's all
black with white sleeves.
Gavin
|
49.1162 | DAZZA | VYGER::HEWITSONF | Finlay Hewitson | Sat Jul 08 1995 12:53 | 18 |
|
RE.1161
It's a brilliant new strip and the new away strip is smart as
well, red and blue vertical stripes with blue shorts..
Staz has made his first preseason signing and one of his best to
date. GORDON DALZIEL -- PLAYER COACH--
The new strip will worn with pride in GRAN CANARIA.
see you's in two weeks time....
fin...
|
49.1163 | jim o'hare appreciation society | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Tue Jul 18 1995 14:05 | 2 |
| fin you sad git
|
49.1164 | He is/was absolute crap... | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth | Wed Jul 19 1995 08:12 | 11 |
| re last.
I appreciate Jim O'Hare as well....
I appreciate that he's out of a job.
Snigger,
Kev...
|
49.1165 | ENJOY YOURSELVES ! | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Tue Jul 25 1995 03:56 | 11 |
| The Ayrshire Cup final last year was only a minor hicup in what turned
out to be another enjoyable season for all us BEIRUT types. Hopefully
this year we can put things right when you d@#^%$# visit the ALL NEW
STADIA built by your ever so generous director.
If you have not seen the stadium in all its glory maybe you would like
to pop along next season and enjoy a game in front of a BIG crowd in
the comfort you at the piggery can only dream of. Hey lets face it, it
certainly beats a visit to Ochilview.
Get your maps of the Highlands looked out boys cos your gonna need
them. (not that many of you will be travelling !!)
|
49.1166 | down but not out | VYGER::BRIDGEWATERC | | Thu Aug 17 1995 16:19 | 4 |
| what's up Scott,got no pals left in the k(s)illie notes file.Never mind
converts welcome.We'll save you a space in the shed.
CB.
|
49.1167 | BAWBIDCFYAU | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Sat Aug 26 1995 11:23 | 8 |
| Yes Colin you said it, and the infamous shed is full of dead wood.Every
now and then I like to pop down to N0.49 to see what is happening. I
thought I would have stirred a few of you up with my last note RE.1165
but it appears nobody wanted to take the bait.Or is it a case of the
truth hurts?????
I wonder what our crowds will be today!!!!
|
49.1168 | Kilmarnock's new twin-town - Sarajevo | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth | Sun Aug 27 1995 11:44 | 8 |
| re last
Take your bait ????
I thought .1165 was a direct response to 50.906 which must have tasted
good. Now hold still while I take that hook out......8-)
Kev...
|
49.1169 | honest men update,please! | VYGER::BRIDGEWATERC | | Tue Aug 29 1995 16:06 | 6 |
| enough of the badger-breath-baiting kev.leave the dead-beats alone for
now and gives us some news/match reports on THE ONLY TEAM IN AYRSHIRE
(as opposed to the beirut-boys who are the only team for ARSE-HIRE).
Colin.
|
49.1170 | as requested... | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth | Wed Aug 30 1995 07:17 | 64 |
| OK Colin, here's the match report from Saturday's fiasco in Sunny
Methil. This is what will appear in the programme on Saturday, if you
would like the unabridged version, when I can be more critical, let me
know.
East Fife 1 - 0 Ayr United Saturday 26th August 1995
Ayr's first visit to Bayview for almost 10 years was marked by the debut of
David Byrne, signed the previous day on a short-term contract after having
played for Partick and St Mirren last season and Tottenham in this summer's
Inter-Toto Cup. Ayr were first to show when Stuart Wilson volleyed a Bilsland
pass and forced Lindsay Hamilton in the Fifer's goal to punch clear.
The contest settled into a midfield battle with few chances at either end until
Stevie Archibald latched onto a clearance from defence and sent an inviting lob
over the Ayr defence for Robert Scott to chase. He bore down on the Ayr goal
and hit a left foot strike beyond Willie Lamont to give East Fife a 33rd minute
lead. On the Fifer's next attack, Lamont made an excellent point-blank stop from
Scott after John Sharples' slip-up had allowed the scorer another opportunity.
It was Ayr's turn next when Stuart Wilson weaved his way down the left and sent
an excellent cross onto the head of the unmarked Dalziel who headed over the
target when scoring seemed the easier option. Wilson was again to the fore in
the last minute of the first half when his run into the box was ended abruptly
by Cusick, but the referee decided the Ayr forward had made an illegal
challenge and the half ended with with an East Fife free-kick
If the Ayr fans thought the first half was dire, then worse, much worse, was
to follow. It had all started brightly however when a deep cross from David
Byrne forced Hamilton to touch the ball away from Colin McFarlane's head and
then Bilsland shot weakly at the keeper after further good work by Byrne and
Shepherd. However this sparked East Fife into life and for the next 25 minutes
Ayr played second fiddle to a hungrier, faster and better team. Fifer's sub
Struthers hit a curling 20 yarder which struck the crossbar and bounced out to
Scott who headed straight into the recovering Lamont's arms. 3 minutes later
and Lamont brought out the save of the match with a reflex block of a Scott
effort as the home team piled on the pressure. Ayr were chasing their tails
at this point and replaced the ineffective Dalziel with Kevin Biggart. It was
the home team again however who, 5 minutes later, hgad the chance to kill the
game. Benny Andrew raced in behind a static Ayr defence and into the box, he
squared to Scott after drwaing Willie Lamont, but the striker missed his kick
completely with the goal at his mercy. In 78 mins Hildersley had the ball in
the net but his belated effort after the whistle for offside earned him the
game's only yellow card. Ayr finished the game with two half-chances when
firstly Bilsland wasted a good chance after being set up by Byrne and the a
20 yarder from Kevin Biggart which Hamilton fumbled over the bar.
The disappointed and disillusioned Ayr fans vented their anger at the final
whistle after witnessing as bad a performance as your reporter has seen in
more than 25 years of following the Honest Men. Even allowing for the extra
time midweek exertions, the travelling support were entitled to expect more
commitment and effort than was shown. The crowd of 748 included about 200
to 250 Ayr fans but that number will surely decrease unless a reversal of
the club's fortunes on the playing field is evident in the next 2 home games
against Berwick and Forfar.
Team: Lamont,Tannock,Boyce,McFarlane,Rolling,Sharples,Shepherd,Dalziel(Biggart)
Bilsland,Wilson,Byrne
Ayr's MoM - Willie Lamont. His saves kept the score down to only 1
Kev...
|
49.1171 | thanks,Kev. | VYGER::BRIDGEWATERC | | Wed Aug 30 1995 13:51 | 1 |
|
|
49.1172 | THANKS KEV (TEE,HEE !!!!!!) | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Fri Sep 01 1995 08:16 | 2 |
|
|
49.1173 | ODE TO A KILLIE FAN | VYGER::BRIDGEWATERC | | Fri Sep 01 1995 16:17 | 12 |
| ODE TO A KILLIE FAN
-------------------
There was a young fan called Scott Goldie,
whose team they were minging and mouldy,
he went every week to watch fitba that reeks,
when Ayr are the BEST like we told ye.
Regards,
Colin.
|
49.1174 | PUT IN PIPE AND SMOKE | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Sat Sep 02 1995 08:17 | 12 |
|
I know a young fellow who supported Ayr,
He had fat white legs and no hair,
He did not hod a season,
For absolutely no reason,
But me thinks it is because Ayr are absolute CRAP!!!!
|
49.1175 | | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Sat Sep 02 1995 08:18 | 1 |
| oops...hod = hold
|
49.1176 | WANTED:REMEDIAL ENGLISH TEACHER FOR KILLIE FAN | VYGER::BRIDGEWATERC | | Sat Sep 02 1995 09:19 | 16 |
| HOD - is that like in something to carry bricks in;you illiterate git.
POEM (that rhymes)
------------------
YOU SEEM TO FORGET THE MAIN THING 'BOUT AYR,
WE'RE WINNING F-ALL BUT WE DON'T REALLY CARE,
WE GO FOR THE RIDE,THE PASSION,THE PRIDE,
WHILST YOU SCUMBAGS GET HUMPED REALLY SARE.
Sayonara,pet.
Colin.
|
49.1177 | Stainpants must stay | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Sun Sep 03 1995 08:24 | 2 |
| Match report please Kev......
|
49.1178 | Always look on the bright side of life | VYGER::HEWITSONF | ALICE,WHO THE F**K IS ALICE ? | Sun Sep 03 1995 08:30 | 8 |
|
STAINROD MUST GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
49.1179 | OPEN JOB POSTING | VYGER::BRIDGEWATERC | | Sun Sep 03 1995 09:22 | 62 |
| WANTED
------
Manager for football team with no money,no ambition,no enthusiasm for
the game (but we do have the AYRSHIRE CUP).
Qualifications - A circus upbringing would be an advantage but full
training will be given to prospective clowns.Own snazzy clothes a must
but leave the silly hats at home.
Ability to slag off your own players and shrug off all blame is
essential but greatest attribute has to be you could not pick your own
nose never mind a decent team.
What money is made available to you should be spent on as many
spanish/french/african/chinese/etc (NO BEIRUT REFUGEES) as you can meet
on your holidays to weaken what must already be the biggest bunch of
intercontinental dumplings in the world.Oh and you are free to buy
another panda.
Experience - no footballing skills necessary but must have attended at
least a couple of night classes in O' level b******t!
Any knowledge/footballing skills you do bring to the team will be
wasted cos none of your players can speak English anyway.
Some cooking skills would be an advantage because due to financial
restraints (ie we're skint) you'll have to heat up the pies and bovril
as well.
Apply in writing to : AYR UNITED (football ???) CLUB
Somerset park,
Ayr.
Using reference - STAINROD,F**K OFF YOU ENGLISH W****R!
(no offence big man,but you're mince).
QUESTION : Can you tell I'm not happy ? I wasn't even at the game but
so far I've been told by a fellow disgruntled fan (FINLAY,I WILL
PROTECT YOUR ANONYMITY,OOPS!!) that yesterday's result did not relect
the game - IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 8-1 INSTEAD!!!#?!!
WE ARE AYR,SUPER-AYR,NO_ONE LIKES US,WE DON"T CARE....
Regards,
Colin.
|
49.1180 | DIDN'T THEY DO WELL.. | VYGER::BRIDGEWATERC | | Sun Sep 03 1995 09:42 | 14 |
| I'm going to upset you Ayr boys,but I am going to give my
congratulations to Kilmarnock for the second time in one week.Well done
boys you never got beat yesterday.I'm pleased for you.
What's that....? There was no game on yesterday!!!
THAT EXPLAINS IT,YOU SCUMBAGS!!!!%#$$#$$%!!
Regards,
Colin.
|
49.1181 | SPOOKY... OR WHAT!?! | AYOV25::GLEROY | | Sun Sep 03 1995 10:37 | 9 |
| Ouch! Sounds like yesterday's result hurt! Console yourselves with
this spooky coincidence...
In season 1973-4 Kilmarnock had just been relegated to Division 2. In
their third game of the season they lost 4-1 to Berwick Rangers. Four
weeks later the manager (Mr W.McCrae) got his jotters. At the end of
the season they were promoted!
Gavin
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49.1182 | | REDBUS::SYS_167500 | | Tue Sep 05 1995 20:29 | 6 |
|
Stainrod's resigned according to Radio 5 Live.
yippee........Tommy McLean anyone ?
Del.
|
49.1183 | | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth | Wed Sep 06 1995 08:23 | 11 |
| No thanks.
I can just imagine training if McLean arrives. Everyone running round
inside wheels and eating sunflower seeds. Anyway when he sees the
bank balance ( -300K) he will realise he cannot buy his way out of
trouble and will pack it in. Malky Shotton is still highly regarded
down Somerset Way and at least would install a bit of fighting spirit
in what is a demoralised set of players after SS's comments in the
press this week.
Kev...
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49.1184 | He had to go. | WSTENG::DSMITH | | Wed Sep 06 1995 13:29 | 25 |
|
I suppose it was only a matter of time before he left, his comments in
the press recently have been pretty poor. Slagging off players in the
press does nothing to instill confidence in the players. What I can't
understand however is that all the players he's been slagging off were
brought to the club by Stainrod. That must tell you something about his
ability to spot a good player.
Names in the frame for the vacant job are John McVeigh (Airdries No2),
David McCreary (ex-Hearts), Tommy McLean, Malky Shotton and Sanny
McAnespie. The last 2 names mentioned must be favourites for the job;
anyone coming from Airdrie will sign kickers, McCreary I know nothing
about, McLean has been quite successful at Motherwell but he did
nothing at Hearts and he's a wee arse anyway (allegedly).
Kev, if Ayr are so much in debt, who's paying for the new executive
suite currently under construction? I would have thought they would
have been better spending the money on a couple of semi-good players
who may have ensured first division survival last season. It looks
pretty strange spending money on executive boxes when there is no
certainty of promotion this season. Who needs a smart ground when
you've got a crap team playing there? Just ask Killie.
Danny.
|
49.1185 | | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth | Wed Sep 06 1995 15:55 | 14 |
| Well Dan, I reckon Mr Barr is being rather benevolent toward his club
and probably gave the executive boxes as some sort of a gift. Put it
this way, Barr the person owns a wad of shares, we know that, but did
you know that Barr Construction Ltd owns 500,000 shares as well. Now
ask yourself, do YOU charge yourself money if you cut the grass,
decorate a room, build an extension ?? No. So why would Barr
Construction (shareholders) owned by Bill Barr (shareholder) charge
himself money for the boxes ?? The official line is that they cost 70K
but personally, I'm not swallowing that one. 2 of the subsidiaries of
Barr will be taking boxes as well - more money from Barr.
He's not as bad as he is made out to be...
Kev....
|
49.1186 | | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth Is Out There | Thu Sep 07 1995 10:58 | 11 |
| According to last nights Ayrshire Post, Shotton is very interested and
would move his family north if he got the job. He is coaching the
reserves at Barnsley but wants to move into management.
Frank Rolling played for Leicester reserves at the weekend and
according to Mark McGhee, never put a foot wrong. They are arranging
another friendly, especially to watch him and they have another reserve
match before his month loan is up. Could be worth about 150-200K for
the club
Kev...
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49.1187 | IN YOUR DREAMS | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | | Mon Sep 11 1995 20:50 | 1 |
| Is that 150 to 200k in potatoes or midget gems.
|
49.1188 | He's worth more than Lekovic and Wright together | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth Is Out There | Mon Sep 11 1995 22:47 | 9 |
| Quick, fetch me the rib doctor, such searing wit and repartee usually
has me doubled up.
Get back to the Beirut note, or your other prodigy, #506.
Kev...
p.s. You wouldn't be new to notes, would you ?
|
49.1189 | Reasons to be Cheerful Pt. * | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Wed Sep 13 1995 21:59 | 25 |
| Question........
1. Who plays for Ayr United ???
2. How is your Stadium looking ( must be really
impresive with those executive boxes) ????
3. What are your match attendancies like ????
4. What league do you play in ????
5. Who is your manager ????
6. Who is Malky Shotton ????
These questions are directed at a certain A#@ fan with the
initials C.B.
You may be able to answer the last one big man cos he was probably
still playing the last time you were there !!!!!!
Yours Aye,
s.g.kfc
|
49.1190 | NEVER SAY DIE!!!!! | VYGER::BRIDGEWATERC | | Fri Sep 15 1995 09:46 | 65 |
| Scott,
You asked for it ......
Q1. WHO PLAYS FOR AYR UTD ?
A. Who really cares.It could be Luciano Pavarotti,Placido Domingo or
Daffy Duck.It doesn't matter much to me who plays for Ayr.If they
score goals they can call themselves anything they like - even
something as ridiculous as Scott Goldie(locks) if they so prefer.
Anyway the personnel at Somerset will be changing quite a lot as
soon as they appoint a new manager,so what's the point of trying to
remember all their names just now!!!
Q2. HOW IS YOUR STADIUM LOOKING ?
A. Same as always mate,only now,as well as the new team we will soon
have,we will be able to attract some money into the club by
offering some high-rollers to enjoy their football in nice,cosy
surroundings (and charging them extortionate prices for it).
Q3. WHAT ARE YOUR MATCH ATTENDANCES ?
A. It changes,for home games we have some and for away games we have
none.How's that !!!
Q4. WHAT LEAGUE DO YOU PLAY IN ?
A. A league of our own mate,AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!!!!
Q5. WHO IS YOU MANAGER ?
A. Well now,there's a toughie.At the moment Gordon (or should that be
CLARK) Dalziel is keeping the hot-seat warm.So far he is leading by
example so he stands a good chance of holding on to it for a wee while.
As long as we get someone who wants to play no-nonsense attacking
football we will be happy.We may not be back playing you scumbags
in the league next year but one way or another we will the year
after (IS THAT CONFIDENCE OR WHAT ?).
Q6. WHO IS MALKY SHOTTON ?
A. WRONG ,little man.I haven't seen this guy play.I have only been a
convert to the ONLY TEAM IN AYRSHIRE for a couple of years so I've
never had the pleasure.Whether or not he becomes the new manager,
time will tell but I'm sure that having played for the club he will
be able to restore some passion for playing for the club that was
missing under our last manager.
NEVER FORGET,YOU WON'T FIND ME LOST FOR WORDS!!!!!
Now,on you go back home to mum,she'll be worried about you.It's not safe
for you to be out on your own in ths notesfile.
Warm Regards,
Colin.
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49.1191 | EHHMMMM..... | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Fri Sep 15 1995 22:52 | 55 |
| I will never be stuck for words either wee man.
so take this.......
NOBCHEEEEEEEEEEEESE!!!!
Lots of love
S.G.KFC
|
49.1192 | FEED Kilmarnock,let them know it's XMAS time. | VYGER::HEWITSONF | KILLIE,WHO THE F**K IS KILLIE | Fri Sep 15 1995 23:44 | 11 |
|
Scott,
That was a very interesting note..........NOT.
WERE you thinking that up all shift??????
Rovers to beat the"AYR"SHIRE minnows tomorrow 2-0 and sent all
the Black GREETIN faces home for their "1PENNY PIZZAS IN
PIZZALAND".Thats the only thing they look forward to on a saturday.
fin. A.U.F.C
|
49.1193 | THIRD DIVISION , HERE WE COME | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | | Sat Sep 16 1995 23:49 | 21 |
| Dear Darlinda,
Apart from enjoying our 1p pizzas,we enjoy reading major
news articles about the scum.
SUNDAY MAIL 17/9/95 QUOTE---
I hear Ayr United are thinking big in their bid to lure a top boss
to Somerset Park.Forward looking chairman Bill Barr has opted to
advertise the post and hes obviously spent hours pondering over which
of the countries biggest papers would reach the widest range of
candidates.
So where,among other important journals.did the advert
appear ??? The Cumnock Chronicle!
Kenny Dalglish will be running for the stamps when his copy is
delivered in Blackburn,im sure.
GORDON WADDEL SUNDAY MAIL 17 9 95
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49.1194 | POOR LITTLE AYR FAN | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Sun Sep 17 1995 22:12 | 35 |
| Well done Fin, you got our score correct but how close were you to
predicting the downfall of your own bunch of useless NERDS.
It certainly is sad to see the 2nd Division title favourites
starting off so well........NOT.
Anyway it certainly is nice to hear from you Fin I knew it was only
a matter of time before a real supporter responded to the jovial
banter. Maybe next weeks game away to Montrose( a real mouth watering
prospect ) will set you back on the right tracks..........
TO THE TURD DIVISION ( where yeez belong )
Cheerio now,
S.G. KFC.
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49.1195 | absolutely hilarious.....NOT | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth Is Out There | Mon Sep 18 1995 08:35 | 15 |
| Will you guys lift all your toys, rattles, jigsaws and any other
crap you brought along and sod off please ? This latest string of notes
would be more at home in 47 or 48 where vitriol and hatred is more
expected.
Kev..
p.s. I can only assume that the moderators are very busy at the moment
and haven't got time to read every note. That's the only explanation I
have for some of the puerile gibberings being allowed to go undeleted.
Perhaps a spell of SET NOWRITE would sort out some of you notes_virgins
It can be arranged for you , if you like. Think about it before your
next entry.
|
49.1196 | Well said Kev! | AYOV25::SLITTLEJOHN | | Mon Sep 18 1995 17:33 | 4 |
| I agree, and this goes for note 50 as well which has been
rudely interrupted.
Stuart
|
49.1197 | AYR AYR SUPER AYR | VYGER::JGIBSON | | Fri Sep 29 1995 04:40 | 24 |
| AYR ARE MAGIC
NOT.
|
49.1198 | Well said that man. | WSTENG::DSMITH | | Fri Sep 29 1995 05:00 | 7 |
|
I suggest an award to the previous entry for note of the year. Must
have taken a long time and much thought to come up with such an
original, thought provoking note.
Danny.
|
49.1199 | | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth Is Out There | Fri Sep 29 1995 19:43 | 9 |
| I smell a rat, or is it a Beirut noter. Those little clues dropped all
over the note, no punctuation, the use of capital letters everywhere,
the inability to use..
CTRL/L....
All rather tiring I know, but I second Danny's nomination.
Kev...
|
49.1200 | The only way is... | VYGER::GOLDIES | | Sun Oct 15 1995 23:06 | 45 |
|
Ehmmmmmmm..........
!
!
!
! ! !
! ! !
!
Go on Stennnnnny !!!!!
Regards,
SG.kfc
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49.1201 | go away you small boy.... | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth Is Out There | Mon Oct 16 1995 08:03 | 1 |
|
|
49.1202 | COMA | VYGER::MMURRAY | | Fri Oct 20 1995 18:37 | 3 |
| CAN ANYONE HELP ME I HAVE JUST BEEN IN A COMA FOR 100 YEARS AND
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF "SUPER" AYR HAVE WON ANYTHING YET!
|
49.1203 | 8^) | VYGER::MCCLELLANDK | The Honest Truth Is Out There | Sun Oct 22 1995 14:30 | 19 |
| Well Mr Murray, judging by your entries in almost every other note in
this conference, I would hazard a guess that you are new to notes. You
also appear to be new to football as well. If you knew anything about
the subject, you would know that Ayr United were not formed until 1910
so you being in a coma since 1895, have not actually heard of them....
I'll read everyone else's mind and recommend that slipping back into
that coma would be the best option for someone so pitifully endowed
with football knowledge as yourself....
Learn some notes etiquette.......before you get moderated out........
There's some handy hints in the following conference.
CAPSLOCKOFF::NOTES_VIRGINS
Cheers,
Kev...
|
49.1204 | YOUR RIGHT | VYGER::MMURRAY | | Mon Oct 23 1995 07:03 | 2 |
| SORRY ABOUT THAT! IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER I AGREE WITH EVERY THING
YOU HAVE SAID.
|
49.1205 | Black and white machine | WSTENG::SYS_132894 | | Tue Aug 13 1996 22:44 | 10 |
|
First note here for 10 months, must be a cracker,
Coca Cola Cup 2nd round, Killie 0 Ayr 1 (Bobby Connor)
Hopefully a money-spinning tie in the next round, I might even venture
to my first game in 2 years!!
Danny.
|
49.1206 | "AYR TO WIN A CUP" - HARDY HAR HAR | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | IAIN'S NOTES | Thu Aug 15 1996 13:01 | 24 |
|
Enjoy the fluke result lads !!! That's if any darkie's actually
read this file anymore.
But next season when you are playing in the same division as this
season at Somerset(bombsite)park in front of 1500 fans , KILLIE
will be playing in the PREMIER division at a TOP stadium in front
of DECENT crowds.
P.S
I sincerely hope you go on to win the cup. As its a bit overdue dont
you think ?????
|
49.1207 | "If only David Murray ........" | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | IAIN'S NOTES | Fri Oct 25 1996 08:49 | 68 |
49.1208 | AYR UTD CROWD CONTROL- CUFF THEM BOTH!! | VYGER::KERRP | | Sat Oct 26 1996 06:28 | 17 |
49.1209 | ....YAWN.... | WSTENG::SYS_132894 | | Sun Oct 27 1996 11:46 | 11 |
49.1210 | SOOOPER AYR! SOOOPER AYR ! HA | VYGER::KERRP | | Mon Oct 28 1996 21:42 | 7 |
49.1211 | HEADLINES---"AYR UTD MAKE SEMIS OF AYRSHIRE CUP" | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | IAIN'S NOTES | Tue Mar 11 1997 07:33 | 18 |
|
Out of curiosity, are there any Ayr fans out there who can remember
seeing there beloved Ayr United in a semi-final apart from the Ayrshire
cup.
Have they ever won a quarter or semi-final??
I know they've never won a final because we all know that fine
Ayrshire anthem "Won **** all and never will".
I suppose we will still be singing that won for the next millenium!!!
Eat your heart out darkie chappies !! KILLIE'S IN THE SEMI'S
ONE TEAM IN AYRSHIRE!!!
Mr Smug.
|
49.1212 | Also the League Cup. and twice B&Q Cup | VYGER::BONEM | I am the seed! | Tue Mar 11 1997 12:35 | 8 |
| Yes Ayr were in a semi-final for the League cup against Dundee in the
early 80's cant remember the dates but Ayr were winning 2-1 with 10
minutes remaining but got beating 2-3. It was played at Dens park.
Anyone else at this game I was young then, and cant recall most of
the game.
Martin
|
49.1213 | | ALERT::SYS_167500 | | Wed Mar 12 1997 16:13 | 7 |
|
re -2
Can anyone remember who knocked Kilmarnock out of this season's Coke
Cup ??
Del.
|
49.1214 | wot on earth do you want to know that for? | MKTCRV::KMANNERINGS | | Wed Mar 12 1997 16:17 | 9 |
|
>> Can anyone remember who knocked Kilmarnock out of this season's
Coke Cup ??
Nope, I don't expect so, but if it helps you at all my guess is it
wasn't Maidstone United
..Kevin..
|
49.1215 | "are they really crap" | VYGER::YOUNGC | | Sat Mar 15 1997 06:56 | 7 |
|
Surely a team the stature of Ayr United must have won a major trophy
at some point in there history ???????????
Craig.
|
49.1216 | Never to know what a trophy cabinet is | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | IAIN'S NOTES | Sat Mar 15 1997 08:41 | 102 |
|
Craig,
Dont you know Ayr's going for the treble this year !!!!!!!!!!!!
1st Category WORST SUPPORTED TEAM IN AYRSHIRE
2nd category WORST STADIUM IN AYRSHIRE
3rd category WORST PIE IN AYRSHIRE
Hope that helps you out Craig?
rgds.
Iain.
|
49.1217 | Black + White Sh*** | VYGER::ALEXANDERM | MARK ALEXANDER | Mon Apr 07 1997 10:40 | 5 |
| Livvy.2 Ayr.1
The slump is on.....
Mark.
|
49.1218 | <we've escaped too !> | IRNBRU::DKEARY | | Mon May 12 1997 09:50 | 3 |
| Congratulations to Ayr United. Div II champs.
/Derek.
|
49.1219 | What a chump you are Derek! | IRNBRU::LITTLE | | Mon May 12 1997 13:56 | 9 |
| I can't believe the only note in here today is from a Hamilton Accie
supporter but then Kevs on holiday today so that explains it.
Congrats I suppose to the Ayrshire also-rans but it still dosen't count
as a major success so the old song still stands.
Oh well, I suppose you still have the Cup final to look forward to on
Tuesday night but I suspect the double is on for the Killie - a cup
for the first team AND the reserves!
Stuart
|
49.1220 | Little of no importance. | VYGER::STEELEJ | | Tue May 13 1997 20:09 | 6 |
| Killie missing relegation by the width of the skid marks on their
y`s is a major success is it? Ayr United have won something, killie
haven`t. They may be in the S C final but wait until after the 24th
before you start crowing on about what killie have acheived.
J.S
|
49.1221 | YOU'LL NEED A TROPHY CABINET THE SIZE OF A HOUSE | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | IAIN'S NOTES | Wed May 14 1997 09:40 | 7 |
|
Can anyone tell me if the Ayr team paraded those magnificent trophys
around Ayr on an open top bus last night???
Also can anyone tell me when the demolition work finishes at Somerset??
IC..
|
49.1222 | Ayr buses still have roofs. | VYGER::STEELEJ | | Wed May 14 1997 12:55 | 5 |
| All the debris was removed straight after the game, put back on the bus
and shunted back up the A77.
j.s
|
49.1223 | Result needed! | BIS1::bro-ws-103.bro.dec.com::roosen | | Thu May 15 1997 12:52 | 8 |
| Can somebody provide me the result of the game
Clyde - Ayr Utd?
Thanks
Paddy
|
49.1224 | Ayr have won the league you know! | VYGER::STEELEJ | | Thu May 15 1997 22:00 | 7 |
| If it`s the final game between the two then it was...
CLYDE 1 AYR UTD 0
J.S
|
49.1225 | | BIS1::bro-ws-103.bro.dec.com::roosen | | Fri May 16 1997 12:07 | 4 |
| Thanks, it was for the predictions game
Paddy
|
49.1226 | Survival first , youth last. | VYGER::STEELEJ | | Wed May 28 1997 07:08 | 3 |
| Ayr United are looking to sign up Keith Wright from Hibernian for their
campaign in the first division in the new season.
Paul Kinnaird is oot the door.
|
49.1227 | Barr also after Ronaldo and Shearer !!!!!!!!!! | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | IAIN'S NOTES | Wed May 28 1997 08:55 | 9 |
|
Ayr have more chance of getting Arsenal's Ian Wright than Keith
Wright!!
In other words NO CHANCE !!!!!!!!!!
---------
You must be getting mixed up with radio's Steve Wright!!
IC..
|
49.1228 | Wright up yer Khyber! | VYGER::STEELEJ | | Thu May 29 1997 00:19 | 10 |
| What a boring git if you still listen to Steve Wright,Christ what
"station is he on now,Moon base Alpha ?"
Anyway Ian Wright Won`t join Ayr United because he says ,
"I am not worthy to play for United let alone set foot in such a class
area as Ayr."
He was later over heard as to saying that he would maybe,just maybe
lower his standards and "live" in Umma Gumma land (ancient name for
Kilmarnock and other unimportant places).
J.S
|
49.1229 | | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | IAIN'S NOTES | Thu May 29 1997 16:39 | 11 |
|
Umma Gumma land is also known as "Tennent's Scottish Cup Holders 97"
land!!!
CHAMPIONEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!
CHAMPIONEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!
Get back to LOSER NOTROPHY'S LAND!!!!!
IC..
|
49.1230 | more appropriate shirley | BERGIL::BREADIE | | Thu May 29 1997 16:50 | 1 |
| Did you not mean to put -1 in note 48 ?
|
49.1231 | Ha friggin ha | PATE::POUNDER | | Thu May 29 1997 18:22 | 3 |
| Pi$$ off Breadie
TeePee
|
49.1232 | A jumped up pantry boy! | VYGER::STEELEJ | | Fri May 30 1997 00:09 | 5 |
| El Thicko, Rangers have won the Coca Cola Cup and the Championship,
so i count that as two trophy`s this season.
It takes Killie 50 years to achieve that many.
IC, UC EASEEEEE.
|
49.1233 | HE'LL SUPPORT YOU'S (ALL) EVERMORE !!!!!! | VYGER::CAMPBELLI | IAIN'S NOTES | Fri May 30 1997 09:30 | 11 |
|
Geez..eh..and here's me thinking Super Ayr had won them ya pleb!!
How many teams do you actually support Jimmy??....because it sounds
to me yer a frustrated darkie who probably watches the huns twice a
year on telly!!
Championeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!
Championeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!
IC...UR....DIM.....
|
49.1234 | To Kunta Kintae! | VYGER::STEELEJ | | Mon Jun 02 1997 16:03 | 5 |
| still more than once in forty years,and do you want to see my season
ticket for Ibrox ?
jimmy
|