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995.1 | | SSDEVO::EGGERS | Anybody can fly with an engine. | Tue Aug 11 1992 08:38 | 3 |
| Then there is the flip side: "in working order," meaning something is
functioning within normal parameters. (I guess I've been watching too
much Star Trek.)
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995.2 | Under the *what*? | MCIS5::WOOLNER | Your dinner is in the supermarket | Tue Aug 11 1992 09:10 | 8 |
| > Or does it have anything to do with the expression "Out of sorts" which
> we use to describe someone who doesn't feel well. (Where did that
> phrase come from?)
Reminds me of something my daughter said when she was 4. Recalling my comment
that morning about her cold, she told Grandma, "I'm under the news."
Leslie
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995.3 | Look at `Ordnung' | LINGO::KNOWLES | Spelling chequers are knot the hole answer | Wed Aug 12 1992 05:41 | 11 |
| Surely it means simply `not working'. A number of other languages use ORD*.
I can't think of examples other than German, but I'll eat my [electronic]
hat if there aren't more. Maybe what you suggest is a possibility, but I
doubt it.
`Feeling ill' is no problem - `ill' is the opposite of `well', adverbs
based on `bad' and `good' respectively. They don't _feel_ like adverbs
now, and they're irregular (as are most good/bad words), but that's the
etymology - cf `feeling poorly'.
b
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995.4 | | POWDML::SATOW | | Wed Aug 12 1992 06:30 | 9 |
| Another phrase that has a meaning to "out of sorts" is "not feeling up to
par," or "not up to par." This phrase is curious to me, because one of the
most common uses of "par" is in golf, in which "below par" or "under par" is
_goodness_.
I suppose that has more to do with the peculiarity of golf (low score wins)
than it does with the use of the word "par."
Clay
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995.5 | | REGENT::POWERS | | Wed Aug 12 1992 07:24 | 4 |
| "Par" just means normal or expected.
Thus in golf, one does well when one is under par, since this is better
than expected.
In everyday life, feeling "under par" is being not up to expectations.
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995.6 | | KAOFS::S_BROOK | | Wed Aug 12 1992 07:52 | 8 |
| Feeling ill isn't a problem ...
"Out of sorts" is!
I'm not "out of" anything, and I certainly don't carry around sorts ... not
even liquorice allsorts!
Stuart
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995.7 | Is this note B.O.? | CUPMK::SLOANE | Communication is the key | Wed Aug 12 1992 11:52 | 9 |
| A friend of mine worked for a company that used the term "bad order"
usually abbreviated as "B.O," when anything was out of order.
One day he went to the bathroom, and one of the stalls had the
following sign on the door:
B.O. Do not use
Bruce
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995.8 | | JIT081::DIAMOND | bad wiring. That was probably it. Very bad. | Wed Aug 12 1992 18:50 | 4 |
| .3> cf `feeling poorly'.
As Isaac Asimov once wrote, the only kind of person who can say
"feeling poorly" is an inept dirty old man.
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995.9 | | SMURF::BINDER | Ut aperies opera | Thu Aug 13 1992 07:19 | 8 |
| Re: .7
BAD ORDER is a term used by American railroads to indicate "not in
working order." A car that must be reshopped before being put into a
train is indicated by affixing to it a day-glo orange placard called a
bad order card and bearing that legend.
-dick
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995.10 | Did you ever sit on a day-glo orange placard? | CUPMK::SLOANE | Communication is the key | Thu Aug 13 1992 11:03 | 9 |
| Re: .7 & .9
BAD ORDER may be used by American railroads, but this was a toilet that
wasn't working.
And I don't think it had a day-glo orange placard, unless it was on the
seat.
Bruce
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995.11 | .10, did you think placard = place card? | MCIS5::WOOLNER | Your dinner is in the supermarket | Thu Aug 13 1992 11:45 | 0 |
995.12 | puny? | VSSCAD::ALTMAN | BARB | Thu Aug 13 1992 12:13 | 5 |
| I thought "feelin' poorly" was a regionalism; I've heard it
abbreviated to just "poorly" ("How the heck are ya, boy?" "Poorly").
My grandma used to say she was feeling puny. I don't think this
is related to getting small.
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995.13 | 'Out of sorts' -- from typography? | RDVAX::KALIKOW | Partially sage, and rarely on time | Fri Aug 14 1992 08:21 | 9 |
| Somewhere in my longterm memory I've heard that this expression comes
from the age of loose-type compositors, the predecessors of the
linotype. These newspaper and book-publishing workers, when the
"printers' devils" hadn't been able to keep up with their demand that
the various bins of type be replenished with properly sorted type, got
unhappy because they were "out of sorts."
True? Well anyhow it fits the data. :-)
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995.14 | Sort is sort of Order, Dis is kind of Out of | ESGWST::RDAVIS | Blue devils for a brown study | Fri Aug 14 1992 14:20 | 4 |
| Haven't y'all heard tell of "stomach disorders" or "a nervous
disorder"?
Ray
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