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993.1 | Wind Up? | VANINE::LOVELL | � l'eau; c'est l'heure | Thu Aug 06 1992 04:31 | 9 |
| Pierre,
"Winded" is a term that is used in English to indicate a temporary lack of
"puff" and desire for intake thereof.
Also "windbag" (once derogatory) is used as a term to describe one who has had
enough of said substance and is converting the excess into spoken material.
/Chris
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993.2 | New `asphyxiated' is old `winded' writ large | LINGO::KNOWLES | Spelling chequers are knot the hole answer | Thu Aug 06 1992 06:29 | 15 |
| Needing air is `asphyxiated' - though for some reason there's a wide (and
probably representative) body of opinion that reserves `asphyxiated' to
mean `strangled [by physical constriction of the wind-pipe]. Ask a First
Aider, though, and you'll get the answer that strangulation by physical
constriction of the wind-pipe is only one cause of asphyxia. `In a state
of asphyxia' might do the job you want without raising questions about
stangulation, but the phrase is pretty leaden; French `asphyxi�', if it
exists, might get around that problem.
I like `winded', only it has a rather precise application - the state of
asphyxia that happens after a blow to the solar plexus. I believe there
are/have been uses of `winded' without that particular connotation, but
`having had the breath knocked out of one' is the most common meaning.
b
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993.3 | | REGENT::BROOMHEAD | Don't panic -- yet. | Thu Aug 06 1992 10:25 | 7 |
| No, one can also become winded from strenuous exertion.
I think `asphyxiated' is used by police surgeons as a CYA for `probably
strangled, but could have been finished off by smothering, burking,
smoke inhalation... Let me do the autopsy first, guys, willya?'
Ann B.
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993.4 | re .3 | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Thu Aug 06 1992 10:49 | 1 |
| Burking?
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993.5 | Hypoxic? | WHOS01::BOWERS | Dave Bowers @WHO | Thu Aug 06 1992 10:56 | 1 |
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993.6 | | MYCRFT::PARODI | John H. Parodi | Thu Aug 06 1992 12:54 | 7 |
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Pierre,
Just out of curiosity, what gas -- other than air or oxygen -- might
one need?
JP
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993.7 | | CRIME::BIJAOUI | Tomorrow Never Knows | Thu Aug 06 1992 13:44 | 9 |
| In the context of scuba-diving, where you don't always need oxygen
_only_, nor _air_ only. Mixings can be quite different, possibly
involving the rare gas of the atmosphere (Helium, Hydrogen) as diluants
to the oxygen (like you would use water for drinking your Pastis).
Then I thought that there was a word for liquid, solid but not gas.
Pierre.
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993.8 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Thu Aug 06 1992 13:55 | 3 |
| You're hungry for food, not solids, and you're thirsty for beverages, not
liquids. For instance, suppose you need (or want) to take some medication.
Are you hungry for a pill or thirsty for cough syrup?
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993.9 | craved | JIT081::DIAMOND | bad wiring. That was probably it. Very bad. | Thu Aug 06 1992 19:38 | 0 |
993.10 | anchaotic | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Fri Aug 07 1992 00:21 | 5 |
| If all else fails, coin something from Greek roots. How about
"anchaotic" ?
"We're all a little anchaotic up here at the moment", said Franco
as he plugged the leak in the space shuttle.
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993.11 | suffocating | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Fri Aug 07 1992 08:28 | 0 |
993.12 | | SSDEVO::EGGERS | Anybody can fly with an engine. | Fri Aug 07 1992 21:43 | 6 |
| Anoxic - need oxygen.
That could be the result of several things, like carbon monoxide
poisoning or being in an atmosphere depleted of oxygen, or a medical
problem resulting in the body's inability to distribute oxygen in the
blood.
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993.13 | Further thoughts | LINGO::KNOWLES | Spelling chequers are knot the hole answer | Mon Aug 10 1992 06:13 | 18 |
| There is such a thing as `oxygen starvation', but the trouble with _that_
(and suffocating, and ashyxiated, and winded) is that it means _deprived_
of oxygen, not just fancying a bit of some gas. So we have
`hungry' (fancying a bit of food') and `starving' (dying for lack of food)
but only `thirsty' (fancying a bit of something to drink - with the
`going thirsty' version, which can mean either a trivial fancy or
a fatal lack, depending on context; you can do the same with `going hungry') -
no one-word equivalent of `starving' in the case of a liquid.
The confusing thing is that a person who is (really) `starving' is no
doubt `hungry' beforehand; there is a continuum - and `starving' was
presumably brought in to reflect an extreme case of hunger (from ME
`sterven', I believe, which just meant `to die'). The continuum is
better served for food than for drink or gas.
Fancy a bit of helium, anyone?
b
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993.14 | breathless ? | TUXEDO::D_SHERMAN | | Mon Aug 10 1992 11:03 | 1 |
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993.15 | suffocating? | USCTR1::JDUNN | we are all leaves of grass | Tue Aug 11 1992 07:24 | 1 |
| suffocating
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993.16 | | VALKYR::RUST | | Wed Aug 12 1992 15:29 | 8 |
| "Burking" is derived from the activities of Burke and Hare, renowned
body-snatchers who eventually decided that it was too much work to dig
up dead people when you could get 'em much more easily by converting
live ones... I don't recall exactly how they did it - something about
throwing the blankets over their heads and lying on them until they
quit breathing, I believe.
-b
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993.17 | | AUSSIE::WHORLOW | Bushies do it for FREE! | Thu Sep 03 1992 17:26 | 16 |
| G'day,
After being thirsty, may may become thirsting (as in I am thirsting
for water), or even parched or just dry.
Hypoxia is the cause of all human deaths since Adam....
Since humans need Oxygen (preferably for most, at least 20% by volume with
Nitrogen) , Anoxic sounds pretty right to me.
My 2� worth
derek
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