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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

925.0. "Question about "cousins"" by TROU20::YUEN (OXYdized MORON) Fri Nov 08 1991 10:50

 This may not be the best conference to ask, but it's the only one I know
 that is remotely related to my subject matter:

 My questions are:

   What is a first cousin?
   What is a second cousin?
   What is a first cousin, once-removed?
   Are there any other that I've missed (e.g. Second cousin, thrice-removed,
   perhaps?)

 I think I know what a first cousin is--that's my uncle or aunt's son or
 daughter, correct?  What about the others?

 Please enlighten.  Thanks,

 Duncan.
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925.1KAOFS::S_BROOKFri Nov 08 1991 13:1346
    Cousins
    
    
    
    				A
    			       / \
    			      B   C
    			     /     \
    			    D       E
                           /         \
                          F           G
    
    
    A is the parent family and has children B & C
    
    B has a child D
    C has a child E
    
    D and E are cousins   (or first cousins ... same thing)
    
    D has a child F
    E has a child G
    
    F and G are second cousins
    
    F is E's first cousin once removed
    G is D's first cousin once removed
    
    The 'removal' is the number of generations difference between the
    cousin relationship.
    
    Or mathematically ...
    
    two cousins C1 and C2
    
        1.  Find the nearest common ancestor of C1 and C2, call it A.
    
        2.  Count the number of generations between A and each of C1 and C2,
            call that G1 and G2.
    
        3.  C1 and C2 are (MIN(G1,G2) - 1)th cousins (ABS(G1-G2)) times
    removed.
    
        Of course, if G1 = G2 then there is no "removal" and if G1 = G2 = 1
        then they are siblings.
    
925.2Thanks muchTROU20::YUENOXYdized MORONFri Nov 08 1991 13:470
925.3Another thoughtTROU25::YUENOXYdized MORONMon Nov 11 1991 08:174
 If someone is my first cousin, once-removed (e.g. my cousin's kid), then
 I must be his first cousin, once-added, right?

 Duncan.
925.4KAOFS::S_BROOKMon Nov 11 1991 08:2610
>
> If someone is my first cousin, once-removed (e.g. my cousin's kid), then
> I must be his first cousin, once-added, right?

Nope ... there is no indication in the term as to which direction you
are removed.  The term removed just implies difference.  You are his first
cousin, once removed, he is your cousin once removed.  C'est la meme chose!


Stuart
925.5JIT081::DIAMONDOrder temporarily out of personal nameMon Nov 11 1991 17:432
    Everyone else here seems to be using ULTRIX OS.
    If you use VMS OS, you can be a first cousin, once deleted.
925.6SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Mon Nov 11 1991 19:291
    Well, twice deleted is more than a bit difficult.
925.7re ::DIAMOND's .5RDVAX::KALIKOWPartially Sage, and Rarely On TimeMon Nov 11 1991 19:318
    True, Norman.  Delightfully subtle, but true.
    
    Does this explain why the only sort of relative illustrated in the
    left-hand side of the .1 family tree is likely to be merely a MAN?
    
    And does it explain that the more sinister of the two families
    descended from the /root ancestor "A" appears to be U*IXians, and the
    other (the dexterous side) seems to be a \gaggle\ of DOS-heads??
925.8How do you do this?CUPMK::SLOANECommunication is the keyTue Nov 12 1991 07:313
I have a cousin I'd like to remove. 

Bruce
925.9SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Tue Nov 12 1991 09:594
    Re: .-1
    
    There are two ways I know of:  United Van Lines and Murder
    Incorporated.