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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

918.0. "How do you do?" by SFCPMO::NGUYEN () Tue Oct 01 1991 00:04

    Does "How do you do?" sound funny to you?  I was taught since I was a
    kid that I should use "How do you do?" instead of "How are you?" to someone
    I don't know and also to show respect.  However, whenever I use it,
    people act rather strange.  I don't know how to describe their reaction
    but they give me the impression that I say something very funny or very
    archaic, foreign and so on.
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918.1JIT081::DIAMONDOrder temporarily out of personal nameTue Oct 01 1991 03:523
    Everyone knows the phrase, but as you say, it is a little bit
    old-fashioned.  One might expect to hear it from ladies who
    are and/or pretend to be upper-crust (and old-fashioned), etc.
918.2ULYSSE::WADETue Oct 01 1991 10:257
			Yes, it is old-fashioned.  

			Today's correct usage is
			"Yo!  How's it hangin'?" 
	
				 :-)
918.3OvertrumpingMARVIN::KNOWLESCaveat vendorTue Oct 01 1991 14:077
    Even more old-fashioned is the `rule' (I was taught it by a Frenchman
    who'd learnt English at school) that the correct response to `How do
    you do?' is `How do you do?'. I sometimes say `How do you do? [with
    an implied footnote - joc. and arch.]', but I've never used it as a 
    response.
    
    b
918.4What about "Howdy"?DATABS::LASHERWorking...Tue Oct 01 1991 16:161
    
918.5"Hey, Goober." "Hey, Gomer"SHALOT::ANDERSONSex, drugs, and documentationTue Oct 01 1991 16:213
	Down South, we just say "hey."

		-- Cliff
918.6Isn't life grand?BIGUN::HOLLOWAYStainless Steel Rats Don't RustTue Oct 01 1991 18:3918
    
    I have some Japanese aquaintances, and while I was at University,
    greeting them with either "How do you do?" or "How are you?" (shortened
    to "'Ow arya?" in Oz) resulted in some hysterical answers - because
    they mistook the question's meaning.  Most Westeners know that the
    poser of the question is rarely interested in how they feel - it is
    (where I come from) more of a symbolic greeting...
    
    My Japanese friends took it literally, and so I was often told of the
    previous night's activities be they sexual (one of them had a
    girlfriend who could have gone through the entire SAS and not even
    broken out into a sweat...), gastronomic or travel related.
    
    A simple greeting often took twenty or more minutes, many of which left
    me grinning from ear to ear...	8^)
    
    David
    
918.7PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseWed Oct 02 1991 00:342
    	The French are hypochondriacs, and even if you greet them correctly
    in French will often describe their latest symptoms.
918.8JIT081::DIAMONDOrder temporarily out of personal nameWed Oct 02 1991 04:005
    "How do you do?"
    
    Well...
    
    First you have to be able.  Those who can't do, teach.
918.9G'DayEDUOZ::HARRINGTONDo or Do Not, There is no 'Try'Wed Oct 02 1991 07:019
    re: .8
    
    Those who can, teach; those who can't persue some less fulfilling
    profession     ;-)
    
    re: .*  G'Day as we say "Downunder"
    
    BobH.
    
918.10a little French blood here and there...PENUTS::DDESMAISONSFri Oct 04 1991 10:218
   >> 	The French are hypochondriacs, and even if you greet them correctly
   >> in French will often describe their latest symptoms.

	That kind of generalization makes me sick.

	8^)

918.11A fine old how d'yer doo!AUSSIE::WHORLOWBushies do it for FREE!Tue Oct 08 1991 21:0925
    G'day,
    
    I guess a lot depends on the emphases and tonal stresses...
    
    _HOW_ do you do?
    How do _you_ do?
    
    have somewhat different connotations, I feel....
    
    The expression should be flatly spoken with no stresses, without undue
    haste, but not slowly, neither.  And more of a     how d'you do...
    
     
    
    
    It would not raise any eyebrows with me...
    
    But then I'm English.....
    
    
    You know there is a cultural gap, however, if the person you are
    addressing gets out their X-ray negatives.....
    
    
    derek
918.12SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Wed Oct 09 1991 12:096
    A variation.  I had rented a plane and was flying over Loch Lomond when
    Scottish radio (air traffic control) called me and said, "How are
    you?", which is *not* standard flying or radio phraseology or jargon.

    My strong American inclinations were to reply, "I'm fine; how are you?"
    What they wanted was a position report.
918.13Back Down SouthSHALOT::ANDERSONAppoint Anita!Thu Oct 10 1991 06:506
	To return to my Southern theme, in certain parts of the South,
	the standard greeting is "you doin' alright?"  The reactions
	from Yankees who have heard this for the first time are pretty
	amusing.

		-- C
918.14Midwest greeting?SIMON::SZETOSimon Szeto, International Sys. Eng.Thu Nov 28 1991 17:556
    I knew "How do you do?" before I came to the States.  But I was totally
    nonplussed the first time somebody said to me "What do you say?"  Yeah,
    what _do_ I say to that?
    
    --Simon
    
918.15SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Thu Nov 28 1991 18:165
    The appropriate response to "What do you say?" is anything informal
    that happens to come into your mind.  "Glad to meet you" would be a bit
    formal but adequate.  "Any lie that keeps me out of trouble" would be
    in keeping with the question, followed immediately by, "How they
    hangin'?"