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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

786.0. "Jeronimo" by MARVIN::KNOWLES (intentionally Rive Gauche) Thu Mar 22 1990 15:02

    Two questions:
    
    	Why do parachutists invoke his name whenever they jump?
    
    	What was he REALLY called (I mean, what did his people call him) -
    	unless his parents just happened to know the Latin for `Jeremy'?
    
    Any answers? Suggestions?
    
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786.1Ominoreg!LESCOM::KALLISPumpkins -- Nature's greatest gift.Thu Mar 22 1990 16:5921
    Re .0:
    
    I believe it's spelled "Geronimo."
    
        >Why do parachutists invoke his name whenever they jump?
        
    I believe parachutists are supposed to yell to help equalize pressure
    or some such as they fall.
    
    Why that name?  I don't think anyone knows for sure, but there are
    some amusing military folk tales.  One is that two parachutists
    had been fixed up with blind dates, and one of them was supposed
    to be "as ugly as an Indian chief" [N.B. this is in the story;
    some Indian chiefs have been  quite handsome].  When the parachutist,
    seeing the date _he_ got, had a good look at her, he jumped off
    the porch, yelling "Geronimo!"  The following day, his buddy yelled
    it as he dropped out of the airplane.... and the rest is history.
    
    Do I believe that (or its bawdier version)?  Not really.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
786.2spoil sport of the daySSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Thu Mar 22 1990 21:529
    Re: .0
    
    	They don't.
    
    Re: .1
    
    Equalizing pressure is an issue when you are falling at 10,000 feet/min
    or so, but I never yelled anything in over 100 jumps, and other than as
    a joke, I never heard anybody else do it either.
786.3"Where do we get such men?"SEAPEN::PHIPPSFri Mar 23 1990 00:373
     Didn't this first show up in an old war movie?

             Mike
786.4'Right -- over um top, chaps'HUNEY::MACHINFri Mar 23 1990 11:556
    I thought it was not so much a name as an Apache war cry, used
    when galloping into battle. 
    
    Loosely translates to "ooooohhhhhshhhhiiiiitttttt".
    
    Richard. 
786.5COOKIE::DEVINEBob Devine, CXNFri Mar 23 1990 18:569
    Geronimo was an Apache chief (born 1829; died 1909).
    
    However, Geronimo is the English version. His Apache
    name is "Goyathlay" which means "One who yawns".
    
    Sooooo, since yawning is often used to equilize pressure
    to the middle ear and since willfully jumping out of planes
    is only done by people with some vacuum in their head
    to start with ;-), perhaps there really is some connection.
786.6Geronimo and CochiseVINO::MCGLINCHEYSancho! My Armor! My TECO Macros!Fri Mar 23 1990 18:5714
    
    >>What's his _real_ name?
    
    	Geronimo was a Chericauha (I've spelled it phonetically, I don't
    	know the corect spelling) Apache. He has an Apache name, which 
    	doesn't sound anything like 'Geronimo'. I remember reading a 
    	book in grade school entitle 'Cochise' which contained the name.
    	
    	Cochise also had an Apache name. I'd dearly like to find out
    	both their Apche names.
    
    	Can anyone help?
    
    -- Glinch
786.7not the name I heard...VINO::MCGLINCHEYSancho! My Armor! My TECO Macros!Fri Mar 23 1990 19:028
    
>>    However, Geronimo is the English version. His Apache
>>    name is "Goyathlay" which means "One who yawns".
    
    	This isn't the name I once heard. I heard it as two
    	longish words, each of about four syllables.
    
    	-- Glinch
786.8Why did gen Custer wear brown trousers?UILA::WHORLOWVenturers do it in the bushFri Mar 30 1990 06:5018
    G'day,
    
    The story about parachutists I've heard is that it takes about the
    right length of time to yell before tha time comes to pull the rip cord.
    There was one instance where a trainee was told this and duly committed
    it to his not very good memory - in fact he had to be told 'Geronimo'
    about six or seven times. 
    
    The time came for the jump and, being last to go, the instructor
    pushed him out and shut the aircraft door. Some moments later there was
    a furious banging on the aircraft wall. The door was opened and outside
    was the student flapping his arms for all he was worth. "What was the
    name of that b.....y indian again?" he demanded.....
    
    
    
    derek
    
786.9SUBWAY::BOWERSDave Bowers @WHOMon Apr 09 1990 22:132
    Geronimo (Spanish for Jerome) was the name he was given as a boy at a
    mission school.